Ash's Charizard lost 3 times Against Drake's Dragonite , Harrison's Blaziken & a Dusclops in battle frontier ! + Ash's Charizard is now much much strong .
Is the reason nobody counts charizard losing to entei because it isn't canon? am i right to think that? Also his totodile and cyndaquil but that's not the point
1. Red has a level 100 Charizard 2. It was the first Pokémon to mega evolve 3. He has the best team to beat the Elite Four as well as blue 4. Red Charizard beat a Mewtwo
And Red's Charizard took down a wild Mewtwo who was not trained,forced him to mega evolve Charizard, and it is not the best team to take down Elite Four tho
In the Sinnoh league he literally said he would form a team using ALL of his prior pokemon for a template, and he didn't pick Charizard! I was so angry! Although he still would have lost against Tobias tbh I mean come on.
2:28 Jolteon can have hidden ability as Quick Feet, don't argue me that in that generation the ability didn't existed because nor Mega Evolution existed, therefore your argument is invalid.
Not to mention that Red's Charizard had low amount of HP which activated his ability Blaze and resulted to eradicate Blastiose's HP with the move Fire Blast.
+Miguel Lopez (WDWDM) Yet he can't mega evolve unfortunately, btw your argument is dumb as fuck as well with due respect, you know why ? Because every Pokemon has their Ability or Hidden ability in anime it requires you to have knowledge about them or use Serebii.net
Not in the first gen anime. no you disrespected my argument and with due respect doesn't validate it as any apology. Yes in the anime now every Pokemon has one of the abilities they can have. But so far as anime goes. no Pokemon has used a hidden ability so that itself ruin the argument. so like you said to me as just payback which isn't a productive argument. your arguments are shit
Pokemon Origins doesn't take place in the same universe as Alan and Ash so comparing them is redundant. And obviously Alan's Charizard could run miles around ash's charizard.
Based on what evidence though? Alain's charizad is able to sweep teams. Ash's charizard has never done that in a league battle. His only prominent battle was against Articuno and it later lost to a Dusclops.
Sai Bliss Watch last week's episode, he didn't use it until Remo mega evolved his Garchomp which was his last pokemon. It and metagross 2v5 Remo's team pre-mega. Alain doesn't use mega's unless his opponent does/are legendaries and since the only trainers he fights have megas, it makes sense why he would use it all the time. But if not, he won't use it since his Charizard is just that strong.
Guys you are forgetting why ash's charizard is so strong in the first place. Ever since ash left him with all the other charizards he's been training non stop and has gotten strong as hell and has also gained a lot more experience from all those fights and while charizard was training ash was exploring more regions and getting to know pokemon better so they both became stronger and gained more experience
+Galen223adept if u wanna go by game logic, 50% Zygarde 600 points, Charizard X 634 points and still Zygarde was giving it the beating of his life. Ash's Charizard 534 vs Articuno 580 still Charizard beat it, true Articuno had type disadvantage, but the damn bird is one of the Pokemon with the highest Sp. Def plus it had water pulse that fight was pretty fair. Lost to Dusclops not because it was weaker, it was because of Ash. you watched that battle you know why it lost. and in BW it just destroyed Iris Dragonite same total points as 50% Zygarde. Ash's is stronger than Alain's no matter how you look at it
Red’s universe definitely has held items; just look at his Charizard, which was holding a Mega Stone, at least when Red fought Mewtwo. As for abilities, though it seems unlikely, Jolteon may have had the hidden ability Quick Feet, making it possible to hit Jolteon with Thunderbolt.I do, however, agree that Red’s Charizard is probably the weakest, considering it probably hasn’t been trained as much as the other two.
@@Manvirsangha2392 That was mega Charizard tho. Ash's Charizard beat Articuno. I think if Ash had Mega Charizard it would also beat Mewtwo since Ash's Charizard must be like lvl 100 by now.
@@Manvirsangha2392 yea.. with the help of mega stone. Red's charizard lost to fucking nidoqueen while ash's charizard destroyed dragonite without even trying plus ash's charizard is like 1 feet 9 inches taller than red's
i think alain is the weakest of all, because his charizard knows the least amount of moves, he didn't train his charizard enough time to match red's or ash's, and, like you said, he relays too much on mega evolution. ash is in the middle because his charizard doesn't need a mega evolution to defeat a pokemon, he knows lots of moves and his training in Johto made him really strong. red's charizard is the strongest because it's the freaking red! red is a legendary trainer (in the terms of HG&SS) when the player battles him his charizard is the strongest one out of his pokemon. as for the origins red, his charizard is the strongest because he defeated a mewtwo (yeah i know it was after mega evolving but how can you compare between articuno and mewtwo, especially when mewtwo defeated red's articuno), red is the most experienced trainer out of the three, he didn't need special training or mega evolution to defeat a legendary pokemon (moltres)
ok you got a point by saying that he also has beaten a legendary before he went against mewtwo, but how do you think that origin red would balance out his non existing knowledge about abilities and mega evolution?! we only had 4 episodes of origin and as I have proven in the video in reds universe ability do not exist?! so how would red be able to fight against to trainer who have both knowledge about the weaknesses of charizard x /mega evolution and abilities?
+PokemonRangerBoy12 thx and I have bad news I just watched family guy and I accidentally clicked on the vid called family guy brain death scene and I forgot to get tissues and ice cream
i'm pretty sure the anime should not be your source of this video as all poke fans know the anime is complete of wrong information (want proof why did ash's pikachu wins againts a legendary and losses to a snivy who never battled before)
+DerylLesmana Oh don't remind me. Ash just have to use hacks to use pikachu against Onix and get around those immune hits. Ash sucked so bad in kanto saga
Aarushi Raika still doesn’t explain anime inconsistency. pikachu and ash battle skill level basically reset when they get to new region for sake of writing. the only exception we have seen is in sun and moon. and ash pikachu has beaten legendaries but can’t take on some random chumps like a ducking bellsprout. that whole match was stupid because they never introduced that concept again
Game Gabut Yea, but Ash’s Charizard eventually became much stronger than Charla, and literally became her Bodyguard, as stated. I love shipping Ash’s Charizard with Charla
No the first pokemon to ever mega evolve was raquaza remember it happened thousands of years ago and it can mega evolve without a trainer it happened before humans even existed!
@@itzcorruptionspvp5906: Actually Mega Mewteo matches it in stats and has faster movement as well as the ability to use more effective moves. So anyone who knows what they're doing is KOing Mega Rayquaza with about one hit with Mega Mewtwo. Two hits, tops.
Hel Yeah, in a time line with our world rules Red in Halola or alola what ever that stupid game have place Red is 22/25 year and Hes Charizard have 12/15 years of Training. Ash in Alola is 17/18 years old and that mean for his Charizard 6/7 years Training because Ashe never train for real his pokemons... because his stupid 🤷♂️
The simplest answer is from a marketing and personal standpoint. Ash is the anime's version of the series creator Satoshi Tajiri so to take Ash out of the anime by making him Champion would to be dishonoring the creator himself
+Kyle D (SinonArtOnline) it's he said Red doesn't have the experience i mean wtf he complete the first pokedex defeat Gieovany he would totally master the Mega evolution by now cause he is the first trainer in the whole godamn series how's that not stupid '___'
Xcrop Alex but he doesn't understand the concept of abilities but Alan and Ash does and he's too cocky which in turn makes him lose a lot and to defeat mewtwo he didn't do it with just charizard he had to use a legendary and many other pokemon
1. Even if Red had knowledge of Abilities, he would still not be able to defeat Ash's Charizard cause the amount of battle experience Charizard has far surpasses both Red's and Alan's combined. 2. A better and easier example about Multiple Mega Stones would have been Korrina where her Mega Lucario fought her grandfather's Mega Lucario.
+Raptor Wolf Same can be applied to Alan. He mainly explored Kalos and only went to Hoenn because of the Megalith, he didn't explore anything or challenge anyone. So all he has is little extra knowledge of Pokémon and Mega Evolution over Red.
That was mega Charizard. Ash's Charizard beat Articuno. If Ash had Mega Charizard it would also beat Mewtwo since Ash's Charizard must be lvl 100 by now.
When you think about it, Is Ash even canonical to the video games? I thought it was a big fat no, until i realized my favorite mon on my team are Ash Greninja and Ash's Pikachu. If Ash isn't indeed canon to video games, does that mean Ash's Charizard couldn't be qualified to be used in that scenario? Considering a Pikachu that's 20 years old loses to a Snivy. They don't run on the same rules.
Sorry but I really disagree with your video, Red Charizard almost O.S Blue Blastoise's with one fire attack, also his Charizard was match for Moltres, and Ash Charizard barely win against Articuno. We don't even need to speak about Mega Evolution at this rate, since Alain Charizard never win a single battle without this "trick"...
Also, the mentioning of type advantage with the mega evolution and knowledge of abilities isn't supposed to be in the video, since these are things that make the trainers better, and not the pokemon themselves, and the title of the video says "Whose charizard is the strongest", and not "Whose charizard would beat the other charizards in a fight with trainers".
Red is the Kanto Champion and his Charizard beat Mewtwo and the three legendary birds and they took down Team Rocket that is why Red's Charizard is the strongest
I agree. His whole point that Reds Charizard was the weakest was abilities which didnt exist in the first games. I did the exact same thing as Red countless times in my first few runs of the game. You cant compare a trainer from when only 151 Pokemon was discovered to others at the time 700-800 Pokemnon has been discovered. Its like comparing a archer to a gunman, now as seen in the Origins story Red smashed the gym leaders while Ash struggled with pretty much every single one. That alone should tell you that Reds Pokemon are trained better than Ashs.
Jolteon also gets Quick Feet as an ability which would allow it to be damaged by electric moves. Normally i wouldn't call someone out on this, but using it as a main point just isn't valid enough
yeah toatlly agree but in the end it still wouldn't change the fact that abilities most likely don't exist in Reds universe since origins is Gen1 based (with the exception of that mega evolution scene but lets be honest: how else would red be able to defeat mewtwo? :O I mean Mewtwo is supposed to be one of the strongest pokemon of all time)
+PokemonRangerBoy12 You can't accept Mega Evolution being in Gen 1 and then say there are no abilities in his world. Ash's Pikachu didn't have the ability Static for YEARS and all of a sudden it has it? Foh with that it's the same world. Also when Charizard used Fire Blast vs Blastoise that much damage wouldn't have been possible without the Blaze ability. Not every Pokémon with Blaze acts like Infernape does.
+Marvin Lopez True, but Origins is SOLELY based on Gen 1, excluding the mega evolution. This means not only no HA's, but no abilities in general. No Pokemon in Origins has ever been shown using an ability. Not even Mewtwo using Pressure, an ability that takes effect immediately in battle.
+Benjamin Rost If that's the case then Pokémon like Steelix, Magnezone, PorygonZ, Politoed, Tyrogue, Hitmontop, Magmortar, Electivire, Blissey, the Kanto baby Pokémon, and all post gen 1 eeveelutions would be in Origins as well, but they aren't.
I can see why Ash'es Charizard would be considered the strongest in their BASE form. Red's is impressive, defeating blastoise and mewtwo after mega-evolving, but like he said, Red has less experience in using mega-evolution. Alain uses it almost all the time, so what if Alain battled using his Charizards base form only? Can we say Ashs vs Alains vs Reds would be a one-sided battle? Maybe. Due to Ashs experience (sometimes) he has use of strategy and a diverse move set. His Charizard also defeated a blastoise from Gary, who had taken out majority of Ashs team in their league battle effortlessly, as well as the already mentioned two Dragonites (drakes was a close battle but still battled hard against), Articuno, Dragonair, Magmar, and orange islands poliwrath that it had its first loss to. If Alains and Reds Charizards mega-evolve into Charizard X, Ashs Charizard has Dragon-tail, super-effective against the other two, along with slash, flamethrower and maybe seismic toss or wing attack. Reds Charizard has Slash, Mega punch, swift, and fireblast, not much of a useful move set. Mega punch would be its strongest attack with a more probable chance of landing than fireblast, even with its type power bonus behind it. Alains has Flamethrower, dragon claw, thunder punch, and blast burn. A better move set with possible chances of paralyzing or burn stat changes and high accuracy. If the Blaze ability stays with Ash, itll be best suited against the others to give that extra "fire power" needed. Alains charizard could have tough claws to help add power behind its dragon claws and maybe as well as Reds, But with type advantage moves, Ashs Charizards has to take it. Imagine if Ash mega-evolved Charizard into Y instead of X...then we can say Ash would have the advantage and have the strongest Charizard out of the three with only being weak to Alains thunder punch, but vise versa, be able to do critical damage with that dragon tail with a higher special attack. Reds Charizard HAS done many feats that deem it impressive, but to compare with Ash and Alains, it still looks as the weakest. Alains move set is decent and seems very powerful against other mega pokemon as well as using its physical attack/defense efficiently, but relies too much on that power. It almost lost to a mega Venusaur, even with having the type advantage and I highly doubt that he could go up against a focused Ash and his full powered Charizard holding its Y megastone. Ash would still win. I think it comes down to whether or not Ash will mega-evolve his Charizard or not. IF he did, he would still have move type advantage, as well as special attack/defense and ability. But in my opinion of course.
True. It would be a deadly move to use if Ash knows when to use it. He doesn't want to lower Charizards special too early before it doesn't deem effective enough to win against Charizard X
Am I the only one who thinks Alain's Charizard is the strongest? I am? Okay... But Alain defeated Ash's Greninja ;) And you know Alain's Charizard has beaten 10 Mega Evolutions in a row.
Raul orellana guess what, there was mega evolution in pokemon origins and those weren't introduced till gen 6. so the gen rule doesnt apply. i rest my case
Shama Bilal he's not wrong the reason why I keep losing because he's on the hero's journey which the writers have him loose and reset start a new Journey there for keeping the Pokemon franchise that's why I asked has any Pokemon yet don't blame Ash blame the fucking writers
Red charizard : my level is so high and I'm also evolve in mega Alan charizard : I'm also mega and I'm stronger then you i love my master Ash charizard : I BURNED MY MASTER!!!
Reds is the best my reasons Ash's charizard lost to a chikorita. Edit: And he cant use mega evolution (you used too many ifs to make ash win) Alain's charizard: same reasons as you Another edit: Red trained on mount silver for years while ash or alain didnt train for years because ash is still 10 and we have never seen Alain train before
Conor Brown true however Ash's Charizard didn't loose to a chikorita it was an accident Charizard was not aware of the space so when he tried to do a air attack he hit head on a rock and I think that I actually think ash would win in a mega evolution battle since it trained in the charasific valley to become a very strong one and no doubt reds Charizard is intensely powerful
Conor Brown hmm and I have a theory that Red died in mount silver due to the guilt from killing blue's raticate and also the very cold conditions when we play as gold we can fight red if we win he dissapears that was his lost soul waiting for someone to beat him
The Red Miner gold never fought red it's uncanon he did in the manga but red one shot em nintendo confirmed that red and gold never fough each other in the games
I say no, but you're forcing me. Ash is an empty character that the pokemon company uses to raise a premium. People are most attracted to pokemon s anime. And 60% of Pokemon Fans love ash. Most of the characters we see in both the game and the anime are weakened for ash in the anime. Ash can beat the anime giovanni, but not the game and manga minutes. Because Ash is so beloved, the Pokemon company makes it the main character in every generation. However, they both increase and decrease the power of ash to make the series exciting. Ash doesn't have a specific power level. Most ash fans say that ash will beat everyone if he collects his strongest pokemon. But even if he uses it, he will lose because there is no certain power level. Ace fans would have caught the ash if he wanted pokemon he didn't catch. If he wanted to, he would take that pokemon back. With their excuse, they try to make ash the strongest. But if we look at it with this logic, other trainers can catch other pokemons and get stronger. The important thing is not to be able to do it. The important thing is to do. But ash doesn't have the intelligence to do that either. If he did he would. Ash makes a big victory. The next episode is beaten by a simple Pokemon. You ask why? Because the pokemon company wants to increase the premium behind the ash. Because they don't get a premium from Red. Red was never the main character. We are the main character. In manga, all Pokédex owners are the main characters. But because they're less popular, the premium isn't contracting. Serena, dawn, iris, and may have all done powerless to be turned into girls who chase after ash. I haven't said that even once, if he asked for red, he would buy or catch his strongest pokemon. Because red doesn't need it. Only we can beat Red. But sometimes I wish the red would catch those pokemons too. But I don't use them to uphold red. Because red is stronger than them all. Pokemon company designed red to be the strongest. By the way, ash fans are constantly telling their red fans why you like red. In their eyes, ash is underestimated and red is an exaggeration. But actually the opposite. Less popular than red ash. If there is anyone really exaggerated, it is ash. Ash fans say that ash is stronger than anyone but underestimated. It is red that is underestimated. We can only beat the red
I remember as a kid thinking Red's charizard was the best lmao. Ash's charizard was the weakest up until it trained in charicific valley, and that's when it became op. It'd easily destroy red's 5'3 charizard as well lol
But you see red is also in gold/silver meaning that he also must have knowledge of ability’s. He also comes back again in some tournament where he battles gen 2 Pokémon
Did you know that Red trained his charizard for like 3 or 2 years on a mountain. And he was like the second person who found out what mega stones can do. Last but not least he definitely has experience in mega evolution.
Momen Muhammad No, no, even the Red that we don't get to control my friend. WE are not Red, he was just our player character for a while. That doesn't mean we're him. c:
Alyssa Bryan its still technically pokerangers opinion bc there has never been a battle of any of these charizards, and game red cant battle any bc he is in a game
Why are people constantly comparing ash to red in pokemon origins? Also, the reason for pokemon origins is that while red fights, it does not fight elsewhere. We saw Red's sorcerer fight Moltres. However, this media passed quickly. Because he easily defeated Red Moltres. He beat Zapto with tauros. He beat Articuno with a quick hit. Beat Mewtwo with a mega charizard x (the reason mewtwo behaves stupid is because he acts like the mewtwo in the game. So the connection between red and mewtwo in the manga is very good. Red only beat the charmander, nidoran and metapod) In the manga, untrained pikachu, brock ' beat the onix of flour. As for the battle with Giovanni. Normally gym leaders do not use to full capacity, but even the giovanni, the pokemon he will use in the gym, fights red. He lifted it from the table and took two ultra balls instead. So this war wasn't a gym leader war. But if he wanted to refuse, he could easily beat him. But he still spent pokemon unnecessarily. Snorlax, jolteon and victerybell There was no need to use them because they were directly defeated in one move. He took the life of Kabutops and Ryhorn a little, and then drew with Hitmonlee. He defeated Rhydon. They also bypassed the battle of red against the elite, as they are so easy for red and green. Red's jolteon alone beat lorelei's entire team. He beat Scyther and Bruno his entire team. Dodrio beat Agatha's team. Lapras beat Lance's team. I know this because if they didn't they would let us watch it. But they only showed one scene. Also, all Pokemon were full of energy. So is the green team. We haven't seen Red struggling with other gym leaders because it would be boring as it wasn't difficult. In addition, pokemon generations defeat many home legendary Pokemon using the red, pikachu. And again they skip the scenes. Red has no trouble fighting them. Additionally, when looking at pokemon games, the red levels in Pokemon are higher than all trainers and pokemons. Pokemon masters are also red's charizard stronger than Giovanni's mewtwo Zinnia's rayquaza Gloria's zacian Silver's ho oh Cyrus's palkia. If you don't believe it, you can ask the people playing pokemon masters. Don't forget that too. In the anime universe, the strength of all characters has been reduced to gain ash. May, iris, dawn, serena, brock, misty, Lance, giovanni. All of these characters I counted were stronger in the game and manga universe. However, Giovanni could not connect with mewtwo as in the anime in the game. In the anime, Lance lost to Leon. However, in the game universe, Lance's team levels are higher than Leon's. Looking at the levels in the game universe, Leon's levels are too low for his invincible nickname. Apart from that, the iris was the champion of the game universe. But the anime also went down. Serena, dawn and May. These characters surpassed the champion in the game universe and stopped the criminal organizations. This goes for manga too.
I believe Red's is the strongest. It might have been a long time since I watched the anime, but if i recall correctly, Ash's Charizard never listened to him, and didn't do diddly shiet. It took a very, VERY long time for their bond to form. And for Red and Charmander, it was his equivalent of Ash and Pikachu. Sooo... Take Ash's ungodly powerful Pikachu, and give those attributes to Charizard. Wham.
Did you just say Mewtwo is not even close to the strongest? Are you high? He is without a doubt the second strongest legendary pokemon right behind Rayquaza.
I respect all your opinions, but for me Reds Charizard is still the best for me. Just like Ash’s, Red and his Charizard has a very strong bond together
Tbh! I don't like red...everyone likes him because he completed the pokedex and he was able to beat a mewtwo...but I don't get it...just 4 episodes and everything goes "Oh hail red"
Anuj Daniel because some people played like him he resembled those who played Pokemon red and fire red specifically charmander line fans who played the game maybe that's why people like him
Same, I personally like Alain more and Alain also has very strong bond and connection with his Mega Charizard X and also he become so obsessed with winning when Marin's Chepin (I don't know how to write this pokemon's name) become sick and also just because Red's Mega Charizard X defeated Mewtwo, it doesn't mean that Alain's Mega Charizard X can't
Reds charizard is way stronger than both he earned all badges he defeated elite 4 he deafeated a moltres got all legendary birds and completed the pokedex u so wrong
Lol Red's charizard mega evolved years ago so he mastered it in the next years and they has one of the most strongest bonds. In his story years ago he was just a rookie so he has no ideas of types,levels and abilities advantage. Also he completed some of the other region's pokedex so he has more advantage in ability advantages now. About the level he's much stronger now than Ash and Allan.
Also the only reason ash doesnt win is so they could have go on another adventure because once he's the champion he is probably gonna stay in that region so 🤷♂️
Dude It's been 20 years since Red's Charizard Mega Evolved He must know how to control it Status of their Charizards Red's: Have a strong bond with each other(Which is why it Mega Evolved in the Pokemon Origins Movie) Ash's: Have a strong bond also but needed training for discipline(And has stong will for revenge on its first trainer that abandoned it) Alan's: Y U Depend on Mega Evolution so much WHYYYYYY
Red's is pretty weak, but Red fanboys are just to blind to see that. Ash's Charizard is the best by pure strength and experience, but Alan's has the better moveset.
if we would look game wise then red probably would win,but since I'm talking about the anime then yeah red is weak compared to ash and alan ^^ and even though alan has a better moveset I still believe that due to power and experience ash's charizard would win and alan only would win if he mega evolves but that would go against his philosophy ^^
DyticNo Skill wise ash is better too. The tactics he used in Sinnoh and a lot of Kalos gym battles are things I'm pretty sure no one else could come up with (Pikachu counting future sight, Goodra using rain dance on Electric Terrain, Counter Shield.)
Ace34Deth7 yeah true he is getting way better in kalos but in his previous journey he thought he could just use palpitoad against an electric gym heck he sucked so much there too
My ranking for three charizards 1.Red's- Because he literally beat a frickin Mewtwo 2.Ash's- Because he's been training in the charicific valley 3.Alain's- He's charizard is still strong but he's highly dependent on mega evolution that's the reason why I ranked his charizard last
He only counted the possible winning components for ash and didnt analyze allan's and red's winning components. Allan has years of experience with his charizard . and he didnt count the timeline red is on right now.
Ash kept charizard for training when he was 10 years old. He is still 10 years in xyz series how could it be years of training in the charicific valley?
It is better if Ash has a Charizard he will be the champion of Kalos league instead of Greninja. If Charizard Mega Evolve into X or Y Now Ash has no Problem
you might not see this comment but I gotta try what if you compare the games version (specifically from Gold and Silver or it's remakes) of Red which is the Pokémon Master (even if he loses sometimes) would Red's Charizard fare any better?
Ash is in total sync with his Charizard , he loved his Charizard so much and he knew that his Charizard wants to become stronger , Ash without a second thought he left his Charizard to train in charisiphic valley , so who has stronger bond with their Charizard , lol Ash always wanted to be the best pokemon trainer , but still he didn't use his Charizard for his desires , he let it go , and he wud have left it for permanent cause he loves his Pokemons very much , so actually tell me who has a stronger bond between their Pokemons , red might have a bonsd between him Charizard but has he ever left it or has he thought about Charizards desire ? Nope , Ash has left a lot of Pokemons , primeape , goodra , Greninja , Charizard , Lapras, Squirtle, Butterfree he even left his Pikachu in the beginning this is reason why Ash is the best trainer , and Ash is much better than Alain or red , Ash has that unique quality which is why he has the strongest bond between him and his Pokemons and especially with his special Pokemons , like Pikachu , Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charizard ,goodra , lapras , infernape , Greninja
Ash's charizard got beat by wilo wisp by dusclops so the strongest is red or alan. And whose charizard is a champion and is in the hall of fame red's charizard
That was the writer's fault, back then they didn't care about this stuff. I can tell plenty of such instances, so saying that is similar to ranting about why isn't Charizard a Dragon type. Lmao
But reds charziard is easily stronger than ashes because at the end of Pokémon origins reds charziard mega evolved because of the stones and because of there bond
wait a sec? red is the strongest because red discovers mega evolution before ash or Alan were even BORN. And red never listen to Giovanni. at first yes, but then he realized that it was the bond between a trainer and Pokemon that was making him continue. That is why he beat Mewtwo. If he never had the bond with his charizard, it would've never mega-evolved. And it would've never beat mewtwo. instead, it would've DIED. and the Game freak tried to make that as clear as possible. In red's universe, they did rely on level and power. but not RED himself. He knew the true power of Pokemon was in how much of a Bond they had that made them become champion. Ash and Alan also thought that in order for them to win, There Pokemon had to be strong. that is why ashes charizard never listened to ash until charizard chills. red's universe is different from red himself. done.
no i bet ash was 5 when red discovered mega evolution cause red was 11 when he got charizard and now red is 16 and ash is 10 so ash was 5 when red discovered mega evolution
Ash is in total sync with his Charizard , he loved his Charizard so much and he knew that his Charizard wants to become stronger , Ash without a second thought he left his Charizard to train in charisiphic valley , so who has stronger bond with their Charizard , lol Ash always wanted to be the best pokemon trainer , but still he didn't use his Charizard for his desires , he let it go , and he wud have left it for permanent cause he loves his Pokemons very much , so actually tell me who has a stronger bond between their Pokemons , red might have a bonsd between him Charizard but has he ever left it or has he thought about Charizards desire ? Nope , Ash has left a lot of Pokemons , primeape , goodra , Greninja , Charizard , Lapras, Squirtle, Butterfree he even left his Pikachu in the beginning this is reason why Ash is the best trainer , and Ash is much better than Alain or red , Ash has that unique quality which is why he has the strongest bond between him and his Pokemons and especially with his special Pokemons , like Pikachu , Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charizard ,goodra , lapras , infernape , Greninja
You lost me at Red is not the strongest.Not only did he beat Mewtwo ONE OF THE STRONGEST POKEMON not only that Ash can't mega evolve is Charzard so that should take him out of the running.Next Alans Charzard lost to an Elite Fours Blastoise.Yes his Blastoise was mega but so was Alan's Charzard.Red's Charzard beat a CHAMPIONS Blastoise and there were both regular.PHEW done.
Guys. GUYS. DID YOU SEE WHAT THAT RYHORN DID TO THAT JOLTEON!? But, Red's Charizard is the strongest, and don't go on the anime go DEEEEEP into research.
Not to mention, Allan (if that's how you spell his name) and Red would use mega evaluation. Mega charizard is a dragon flying type. What is super effective against dragon types? Ice and dragon. So if ash taught a dragon move to charizard, (charizard can learn a dragon move by the way if u did not no) he might one shot both there charizards since ashes charizard is so powerful.
ash charizard lost only 2 times in its entire battling history
Ash's Charizard lost 3 times
Against Drake's Dragonite , Harrison's Blaziken & a Dusclops in battle frontier ! + Ash's Charizard is now much much strong .
Alain’s charzard only lost once to seebold
He also lazed out of 2 battles, blaines rydon and a friggin pikachu.
Is the reason nobody counts charizard losing to entei because it isn't canon? am i right to think that?
Also his totodile and cyndaquil but that's not the point
@@Mr.Voiddweller as of battle frontier, the movies, atleast up to that point, have been confirmed canon by the show
1. Red has a level 100 Charizard
2. It was the first Pokémon to mega evolve
3. He has the best team to beat the Elite Four as well as blue
4. Red Charizard beat a Mewtwo
Nicholas Channelle First pokemon to mega evolve? Nigga, Rayquaza was the first one to mega evolve thousand years before humans even existed,
And Red's Charizard took down a wild Mewtwo who was not trained,forced him to mega evolve Charizard, and it is not the best team to take down Elite Four tho
pokemasters
Alians charizard loses to the weather trios
@@Leo-gi6ob a wild mewtwo? Since when are there more than one mewtwo?
why cant Ash use charizard in the kalos league...he has a lot of crazy strong Pokémon
He said he thought about calling one of his older Pokémon to replace Goodra, but preferred to use his Kalos Team.
ash is winning right now lol
+Mecha Sonica haha ya
the more important question is why he didn't use him in the sinnoh league.
In the Sinnoh league he literally said he would form a team using ALL of his prior pokemon for a template, and he didn't pick Charizard! I was so angry! Although he still would have lost against Tobias tbh I mean come on.
Not “years” training, it was days because ash is still 10😂
It was probably years but everyone stays the same age 😂
Nah Ash is 30 years old with intense make-up
@@omsapkota7308 34
If every ep is a day it’s prob 16 or 18
Ash was 16 in xy and XYZ series it's just that his looks doesn't change
2:28 Jolteon can have hidden ability as Quick Feet, don't argue me that in that generation the ability didn't existed because nor Mega Evolution existed, therefore your argument is invalid.
Not to mention that Red's Charizard had low amount of HP which activated his ability Blaze and resulted to eradicate Blastiose's HP with the move Fire Blast.
You da man
+Khalifa Al-Neyadi
Ash's Charizard during the fight with Gary didnt have blaze and won.
+Miguel Lopez (WDWDM) Yet he can't mega evolve unfortunately, btw your argument is dumb as fuck as well with due respect, you know why ? Because every Pokemon has their Ability or Hidden ability in anime it requires you to have knowledge about them or use Serebii.net
Not in the first gen anime. no you disrespected my argument and with due respect doesn't validate it as any apology. Yes in the anime now every Pokemon has one of the abilities they can have. But so far as anime goes. no Pokemon has used a hidden ability so that itself ruin the argument. so like you said to me as just payback which isn't a productive argument. your arguments are shit
I was really thinking Ash would go for a MegaCharizard Y on that series.
Same
Yea but personally I think x looks cooler
Yeah x looks like the beast
X is way cooler but k
@Andrew Perera Solarbeam is not super effective against an electric type you stupid idiot
Pokemon Origins doesn't take place in the same universe as Alan and Ash so comparing them is redundant. And obviously Alan's Charizard could run miles around ash's charizard.
Bro that's true but the charizard of Ash has more potential and has more experience if he dose mega evolve he will beat the charizard of Alan
Based on what evidence though? Alain's charizad is able to sweep teams. Ash's charizard has never done that in a league battle. His only prominent battle was against Articuno and it later lost to a Dusclops.
Sai Bliss
Watch last week's episode, he didn't use it until Remo mega evolved his Garchomp which was his last pokemon. It and metagross 2v5 Remo's team pre-mega. Alain doesn't use mega's unless his opponent does/are legendaries and since the only trainers he fights have megas, it makes sense why he would use it all the time. But if not, he won't use it since his Charizard is just that strong.
Guys you are forgetting why ash's charizard is so strong in the first place. Ever since ash left him with all the other charizards he's been training non stop and has gotten strong as hell and has also gained a lot more experience from all those fights and while charizard was training ash was exploring more regions and getting to know pokemon better so they both became stronger and gained more experience
+Galen223adept if u wanna go by game logic, 50% Zygarde 600 points, Charizard X 634 points and still Zygarde was giving it the beating of his life.
Ash's Charizard 534 vs Articuno 580 still Charizard beat it, true Articuno had type disadvantage, but the damn bird is one of the Pokemon with the highest Sp. Def plus it had water pulse that fight was pretty fair.
Lost to Dusclops not because it was weaker, it was because of Ash. you watched that battle you know why it lost.
and in BW it just destroyed Iris Dragonite same total points as 50% Zygarde. Ash's is stronger than Alain's no matter how you look at it
Ash's charizard is strong because of the charizard valley
To be correct Charific Valley
@@Frankie-eb5rk it's like Pokemon version of the Shaolin temple
And don't forget CHARLA SHE LOVES HIM
Red’s universe definitely has held items; just look at his Charizard, which was holding a Mega Stone, at least when Red fought Mewtwo. As for abilities, though it seems unlikely, Jolteon may have had the hidden ability Quick Feet, making it possible to hit Jolteon with Thunderbolt.I do, however, agree that Red’s Charizard is probably the weakest, considering it probably hasn’t been trained as much as the other two.
3 words tho: red beat mewtwo... not disagreeing but just shifting your thoughts abit
@FAIRY TAIL FOR LIFE Origins came out in like 2014 or so? It was during Gen 6.
@@Manvirsangha2392 That was mega Charizard tho. Ash's Charizard beat Articuno. I think if Ash had Mega Charizard it would also beat Mewtwo since Ash's Charizard must be like lvl 100 by now.
@@Manvirsangha2392 yea.. with the help of mega stone. Red's charizard lost to fucking nidoqueen while ash's charizard destroyed dragonite without even trying plus ash's charizard is like 1 feet 9 inches taller than red's
Yhea becouse ash is still 10 years old and RED IS AN ADULT IT CANNON I SUN & MOON!
i think alain is the weakest of all, because his charizard knows the least amount of moves, he didn't train his charizard enough time to match red's or ash's, and, like you said, he relays too much on mega evolution.
ash is in the middle because his charizard doesn't need a mega evolution to defeat a pokemon, he knows lots of moves and his training in Johto made him really strong.
red's charizard is the strongest because it's the freaking red! red is a legendary trainer (in the terms of HG&SS) when the player battles him his charizard is the strongest one out of his pokemon. as for the origins red, his charizard is the strongest because he defeated a mewtwo (yeah i know it was after mega evolving but how can you compare between articuno and mewtwo, especially when mewtwo defeated red's articuno), red is the most experienced trainer out of the three, he didn't need special training or mega evolution to defeat a legendary pokemon (moltres)
ok you got a point by saying that he also has beaten a legendary before he went against mewtwo, but how do you think that origin red would balance out his non existing knowledge about abilities and mega evolution?! we only had 4 episodes of origin and as I have proven in the video in reds universe ability do not exist?! so how would red be able to fight against to trainer who have both knowledge about the weaknesses of charizard x /mega evolution and abilities?
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Ash had a lot of strong Pokemons but never used them in leagues.
Ash Ketchum has been an idiot since 1999.
Because he said he want to start from the bottom again idiot
interesting story, tell it to your grandma
@@rainier1727 Wich doesn't make sense considering he never was on top lol ,so he go from bottom to more bottom?
He wants to win the league with new friends beo
@@rainier1727 ye
Leon charizard : ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF
Lol even you can from sword and shield 🤣🤣🤣 I hope there will be boss battle with Leon's Charizard and Ash's Charizard
Lol even you can from sword and shield 🤣🤣🤣 I hope there will be boss battle with Leon's Charizard and Ash's Charizard
@@jasonroy942 why you replied couple of same comments?
Bro his charizard is the weakest cuz it can’t beat a mewtwo has mega evolution or has plot armor
@@rayztorm4998 who says you?
i'm pretty sure the anime should not be your source of this video as all poke fans know the anime is complete of wrong information (want proof why did ash's pikachu wins againts a legendary and losses to a snivy who never battled before)
Yeah Champion Survivor pikachu lost to that snivy because of zecrom he wasn’t able to use any electric attacks
ash is just a ten years old child that doesnt care of any pokemon type and won against an ONIX WHICH IS A GROUND AND ROCK TYPE
+DerylLesmana Oh don't remind me. Ash just have to use hacks to use pikachu against Onix and get around those immune hits. Ash sucked so bad in kanto saga
He goes to an adventure over 1500+ episodes..
Aarushi Raika still doesn’t explain anime inconsistency. pikachu and ash battle skill level basically reset when they get to new region for sake of writing. the only exception we have seen is in sun and moon. and ash pikachu has beaten legendaries but can’t take on some random chumps like a ducking bellsprout. that whole match was stupid because they never introduced that concept again
Ash's Charizard got dumped in the lake by his girlfriend...
Oh yeah 😅 charla
Lol I remember lamo 🤣
Which one?
@Jancy Varghese your one of many who like my account name.
Game Gabut Yea, but Ash’s Charizard eventually became much stronger than Charla, and literally became her Bodyguard, as stated. I love shipping Ash’s Charizard with Charla
No the first pokemon to ever mega evolve was raquaza remember it happened thousands of years ago and it can mega evolve without a trainer it happened before humans even existed!
no ash chARIZARD IS THE BEST CHARIXARD AMONG ALL THREE CHARIZARD
Jhulianna 189476 Yeah it can mega evolve without a trainer and Mega Rayquaza is the strongest pokemon ever.
@@itzcorruptionspvp5906: Actually Mega Mewteo matches it in stats and has faster movement as well as the ability to use more effective moves. So anyone who knows what they're doing is KOing Mega Rayquaza with about one hit with Mega Mewtwo. Two hits, tops.
Red is the first genetation of pokemon
Oh yeah i forgot that
Red's timeline is many years before ash, one day red's charizard will unleash a z-move while in mega evolved form lol
Hel Yeah, in a time line with our world rules Red in Halola or alola what ever that stupid game have place Red is 22/25 year and Hes Charizard have 12/15 years of Training.
Ash in Alola is 17/18 years old and that mean for his Charizard 6/7 years Training because Ashe never train for real his pokemons... because his stupid 🤷♂️
@@klaviustanushi933 at least not heart less and boring like ur stupid ass red idiot🤷
@@tabeebwasitdian2658 Fuck you so much
@@AshaSingh-xg7ez ruclips.net/video/OLpeX4RRo28/видео.html
@@isntabelle ur stupid kid
If ash's charizard is the best then why is he not a champion?
Steven Santiago its the anime not the games
I think he wanted to keep it weak.
Nathan Gowen they keep it weak to keep the story going to learn about new pokemon and to have fun
The simplest answer is from a marketing and personal standpoint. Ash is the anime's version of the series creator Satoshi Tajiri so to take Ash out of the anime by making him Champion would to be dishonoring the creator himself
If ash was a champion then Pokemon enime will end🙁
I don't know, considering Red has made appearances in later games, it's safe to say he probably would know about abilities.
i think he only took the origins series into account by the looks of it
+Jacob Long well that just fuking stupid
it's not stupid when he's comparing two out of three characters he's comparing are from the anime
+Kyle D (SinonArtOnline) it's he said Red doesn't have the experience i mean wtf
he complete the first pokedex
defeat Gieovany
he would totally master the Mega evolution by now cause he is the first trainer in the whole godamn series
how's that not stupid '___'
Xcrop Alex but he doesn't understand the concept of abilities but Alan and Ash does and he's too cocky which in turn makes him lose a lot and to defeat mewtwo he didn't do it with just charizard he had to use a legendary and many other pokemon
1. Even if Red had knowledge of Abilities, he would still not be able to defeat Ash's Charizard cause the amount of battle experience Charizard has far surpasses both Red's and Alan's combined.
2. A better and easier example about Multiple Mega Stones would have been Korrina where her Mega Lucario fought her grandfather's Mega Lucario.
does no one remeber the great battle from g/s and hg/ss?!
+Raptor Wolf No on is talking about VG Red we're talking about Anime Red
I know now at least,I looked into it a bit.
But you're right and since red in origins has less experience,and only been in kanto,hes weakest.
+Raptor Wolf Same can be applied to Alan. He mainly explored Kalos and only went to Hoenn because of the Megalith, he didn't explore anything or challenge anyone. So all he has is little extra knowledge of Pokémon and Mega Evolution over Red.
1)Alan charizard
2)Red charizard
3)Ash's charizard
But you are right if ash use mega stone ash's charizard is stringest
If you said Alan is Strongest Charizard, Then what about Base form? ALAN used mega Stone as Mega evolution Charizard in battle.
ash ketchum Alain’s Charizard isn’t the strongest. Ash’s Charizard would mollywhop it.
SonicSwift99 Alan’s Charizard defeated 10 mega evolved Pokémon in a row without healing
@@isaiahtyson1281 What about without use mega evolution?
Arcilion Venuture Samagoar Gumich I’m not saying Alan’s Charizard is stronger, I was just debunking your statement, I think Reds is stronger
Red beat freaken mewtwo with a charizard
Yeah and I beat a level 100 one hundred mewtwo with a clefable what is your point. Yes I know that is not impressive same with red and charizard.
@@DarthVader-do8tu we shouldn't really compare the anime and pokemon origins feats
That was mega Charizard. Ash's Charizard beat Articuno. If Ash had Mega Charizard it would also beat Mewtwo since Ash's Charizard must be lvl 100 by now.
@@udithsethu552 Ice type?
@@DarthVader-do8tu i beat a level 100 mewtwo with jiggly puff
When you think about it, Is Ash even canonical to the video games? I thought it was a big fat no, until i realized my favorite mon on my team are Ash Greninja and Ash's Pikachu. If Ash isn't indeed canon to video games, does that mean Ash's Charizard couldn't be qualified to be used in that scenario? Considering a Pikachu that's 20 years old loses to a Snivy. They don't run on the same rules.
Sorry but I really disagree with your video, Red Charizard almost O.S Blue Blastoise's with one fire attack, also his Charizard was match for Moltres, and Ash Charizard barely win against Articuno. We don't even need to speak about Mega Evolution at this rate, since Alain Charizard never win a single battle without this "trick"...
Also, the mentioning of type advantage with the mega evolution and knowledge of abilities isn't supposed to be in the video, since these are things that make the trainers better, and not the pokemon themselves, and the title of the video says "Whose charizard is the strongest", and not "Whose charizard would beat the other charizards in a fight with trainers".
Red is the Kanto Champion and his Charizard beat Mewtwo and the three legendary birds and they took down Team Rocket that is why Red's Charizard is the strongest
I KNOW RIGHT! ;0
yes
I agree. His whole point that Reds Charizard was the weakest was abilities which didnt exist in the first games. I did the exact same thing as Red countless times in my first few runs of the game.
You cant compare a trainer from when only 151 Pokemon was discovered to others at the time 700-800 Pokemnon has been discovered.
Its like comparing a archer to a gunman, now as seen in the Origins story Red smashed the gym leaders while Ash struggled with pretty much every single one. That alone should tell you that Reds Pokemon are trained better than Ashs.
the correct answer is...
my Charizard😁
Oh my god you're right.
It depends on the player!
YOU GENIUS!
Tre’ Blaze x charizard for solos y mega for doubles and mine is the best level 100 max evs and iv’s I know I’m amazing
Jolteon also gets Quick Feet as an ability which would allow it to be damaged by electric moves. Normally i wouldn't call someone out on this, but using it as a main point just isn't valid enough
yeah toatlly agree but in the end it still wouldn't change the fact that abilities most likely don't exist in Reds universe since origins is Gen1 based (with the exception of that mega evolution scene but lets be honest: how else would red be able to defeat mewtwo? :O I mean Mewtwo is supposed to be one of the strongest pokemon of all time)
+PokemonRangerBoy12 You can't accept Mega Evolution being in Gen 1 and then say there are no abilities in his world. Ash's Pikachu didn't have the ability Static for YEARS and all of a sudden it has it? Foh with that it's the same world. Also when Charizard used Fire Blast vs Blastoise that much damage wouldn't have been possible without the Blaze ability. Not every Pokémon with Blaze acts like Infernape does.
+Marvin Lopez True, but Origins is SOLELY based on Gen 1, excluding the mega evolution. This means not only no HA's, but no abilities in general. No Pokemon in Origins has ever been shown using an ability. Not even Mewtwo using Pressure, an ability that takes effect immediately in battle.
+Mori Robin but you can't just say exclude mega evolutions they come in a package
+Benjamin Rost If that's the case then Pokémon like Steelix, Magnezone, PorygonZ, Politoed, Tyrogue, Hitmontop, Magmortar, Electivire, Blissey, the Kanto baby Pokémon, and all post gen 1 eeveelutions would be in Origins as well, but they aren't.
funny how so many people worship somebody who can only say "..."
I know!
XD
And "...!"
+Barath Raj And "...?"
They worship Red because they WERE Red.
Reds Charizard is easily stronger than Ash’s Charizard and I believe it would also beat Alain’s. And Red Charizard was the first to mega evolve
1. Ash Charizard
2. Alan Charizard
3. Red Charizard
Well... judging by how Ash has not aged, I think Charizard did not stay in the valley for years......
Ash got taller though. Compare his height to team rocket.
+TheJolteonMaster exactly i do age but i just decide how old ill be
+ash ketchum how is that possible pls teach me
+shadow striker i made a deal with dialga and ho-oh
+ash ketchum where can I find them
I can see why Ash'es Charizard would be considered the strongest in their BASE form. Red's is impressive, defeating blastoise and mewtwo after mega-evolving, but like he said, Red has less experience in using mega-evolution. Alain uses it almost all the time, so what if Alain battled using his Charizards base form only? Can we say Ashs vs Alains vs Reds would be a one-sided battle? Maybe. Due to Ashs experience (sometimes) he has use of strategy and a diverse move set. His Charizard also defeated a blastoise from Gary, who had taken out majority of Ashs team in their league battle effortlessly, as well as the already mentioned two Dragonites (drakes was a close battle but still battled hard against), Articuno, Dragonair, Magmar, and orange islands poliwrath that it had its first loss to.
If Alains and Reds Charizards mega-evolve into Charizard X, Ashs Charizard has Dragon-tail, super-effective against the other two, along with slash, flamethrower and maybe seismic toss or wing attack. Reds Charizard has Slash, Mega punch, swift, and fireblast, not much of a useful move set. Mega punch would be its strongest attack with a more probable chance of landing than fireblast, even with its type power bonus behind it. Alains has Flamethrower, dragon claw, thunder punch, and blast burn. A better move set with possible chances of paralyzing or burn stat changes and high accuracy. If the Blaze ability stays with Ash, itll be best suited against the others to give that extra "fire power" needed. Alains charizard could have tough claws to help add power behind its dragon claws and maybe as well as Reds, But with type advantage moves, Ashs Charizards has to take it.
Imagine if Ash mega-evolved Charizard into Y instead of X...then we can say Ash would have the advantage and have the strongest Charizard out of the three with only being weak to Alains thunder punch, but vise versa, be able to do critical damage with that dragon tail with a higher special attack. Reds Charizard HAS done many feats that deem it impressive, but to compare with Ash and Alains, it still looks as the weakest. Alains move set is decent and seems very powerful against other mega pokemon as well as using its physical attack/defense efficiently, but relies too much on that power. It almost lost to a mega Venusaur, even with having the type advantage and I highly doubt that he could go up against a focused Ash and his full powered Charizard holding its Y megastone. Ash would still win. I think it comes down to whether or not Ash will mega-evolve his Charizard or not. IF he did, he would still have move type advantage, as well as special attack/defense and ability. But in my opinion of course.
What do you think @PokemonRangerBoy12 ?
Thats a lot of writing
Muhammad Taiyeb I tend to get into it sometimes lol
HAYNBLANKA ash's charizard knows overheat too
True. It would be a deadly move to use if Ash knows when to use it. He doesn't want to lower Charizards special too early before it doesn't deem effective enough to win against Charizard X
Am I the only one who thinks Alain's Charizard is the strongest? I am? Okay...
But Alain defeated Ash's Greninja ;)
And you know Alain's Charizard has beaten 10 Mega Evolutions in a row.
He needs a buff from mega form to defeat those so that doesn't really say how strong it really is.
Ash’s Charizard is stronger than Greninja
Why does no one keep looking at these facts
CuzzImAhmad cough cough solar beam cough cough
@Sakura_ Crqwn
Water shuriken: 20x3= 60 power
Blast burn(with resistance.): 150/2= 75 power
I have a feeling that Alan got his charizard from the charicific valley
Savage Ellcessor he got it as a starter for sicomore
Sycamore works in charicivic valley?
He got it as a charmander not a charizard
at 2:28, its a quick feet jolteon, not a volt absorb pokemon. did anyone else catch that?
quick feet is its hidden ability
+Raul orellana that even proves my point further.
But ha werent known till gen 5 and even then most abilities were still messed up there so you might have a point
Raul orellana guess what, there was mega evolution in pokemon origins and those weren't introduced till gen 6. so the gen rule doesnt apply. i rest my case
+Grand Master Mawile how many mega evolutions did we see in those short episodes, that's right 1
Your wrong because ash was never able to beat
The elite 4 but red did so red is the best
Shama Bilal he's not wrong the reason why I keep losing because he's on the hero's journey which the writers have him loose and reset start a new Journey there for keeping the Pokemon franchise that's why I asked has any Pokemon yet don't blame Ash blame the fucking writers
Well your right about that. But the writers often ruin everything. Like the B and W best wishes was the worst one ever.
DailyIsmi well who slammed articuno a legendary
+Aarushi Raika ash and red.
E105_Alpha kay got you
Wtf was that drama alert intro
i know righy hope he never does that again
herpes. worms.
+LoGIc MoTion Yeah it's kinda cancerous
I KNOW RIGHT!
true xD but I'm not against it
Red charizard : my level is so high and I'm also evolve in mega
Alan charizard : I'm also mega and I'm stronger then you i love my master
Ash charizard : I BURNED MY MASTER!!!
Lol 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Marco the dragon also beat an articuno fought a entei
Reds is the best my reasons
Ash's charizard lost to a chikorita.
Edit: And he cant use mega evolution (you used too many ifs to make ash win)
Alain's charizard: same reasons as you
Another edit: Red trained on mount silver for years while ash or alain didnt train for years because ash is still 10 and we have never seen Alain train before
Game Red=/= Origins Red.
Conor Brown true however Ash's Charizard didn't loose to a chikorita it was an accident Charizard was not aware of the space so when he tried to do a air attack he hit head on a rock and I think that I actually think ash would win in a mega evolution battle since it trained in the charasific valley to become a very strong one and no doubt reds Charizard is intensely powerful
Conor Brown hmm and I have a theory that Red died in mount silver due to the guilt from killing blue's raticate and also the very cold conditions when we play as gold we can fight red if we win he dissapears that was his lost soul waiting for someone to beat him
The Red Miner gold never fought red it's uncanon he did in the manga but red one shot em nintendo confirmed that red and gold never fough each other in the games
Conor Brown whats reds age then
Here’s how I rank the Charizards as of 2020
1. Leon
2. Ash
3. Alain
4. Red
👌
Ash ‘Brings bigger Charizard Y to Alain.’
Ash:Ready for a rematch?
Alain:’Gulp’
I say no, but you're forcing me. Ash is an empty character that the pokemon company uses to raise a premium. People are most attracted to pokemon s anime. And 60% of Pokemon Fans love ash. Most of the characters we see in both the game and the anime are weakened for ash in the anime. Ash can beat the anime giovanni, but not the game and manga minutes. Because Ash is so beloved, the Pokemon company makes it the main character in every generation. However, they both increase and decrease the power of ash to make the series exciting. Ash doesn't have a specific power level. Most ash fans say that ash will beat everyone if he collects his strongest pokemon. But even if he uses it, he will lose because there is no certain power level. Ace fans would have caught the ash if he wanted pokemon he didn't catch. If he wanted to, he would take that pokemon back. With their excuse, they try to make ash the strongest. But if we look at it with this logic, other trainers can catch other pokemons and get stronger. The important thing is not to be able to do it. The important thing is to do. But ash doesn't have the intelligence to do that either. If he did he would. Ash makes a big victory. The next episode is beaten by a simple Pokemon. You ask why? Because the pokemon company wants to increase the premium behind the ash. Because they don't get a premium from Red. Red was never the main character. We are the main character. In manga, all Pokédex owners are the main characters. But because they're less popular, the premium isn't contracting. Serena, dawn, iris, and may have all done powerless to be turned into girls who chase after ash. I haven't said that even once, if he asked for red, he would buy or catch his strongest pokemon. Because red doesn't need it. Only we can beat Red. But sometimes I wish the red would catch those pokemons too. But I don't use them to uphold red. Because red is stronger than them all. Pokemon company designed red to be the strongest. By the way, ash fans are constantly telling their red fans why you like red. In their eyes, ash is underestimated and red is an exaggeration. But actually the opposite. Less popular than red ash. If there is anyone really exaggerated, it is ash. Ash fans say that ash is stronger than anyone but underestimated. It is red that is underestimated. We can only beat the red
I remember as a kid thinking Red's charizard was the best lmao. Ash's charizard was the weakest up until it trained in charicific valley, and that's when it became op. It'd easily destroy red's 5'3 charizard as well lol
But you see red is also in gold/silver meaning that he also must have knowledge of ability’s. He also comes back again in some tournament where he battles gen 2 Pokémon
SydDaSquid Gaming that's not canon so it doesnt count. But imo red's charizard is the strongest
Ricky Hawlen its ash’s
Does not make sense
Did you know that Red trained his charizard for like 3 or 2 years on a mountain. And he was like the second person who found out what mega stones can do. Last but not least he definitely has experience in mega evolution.
Pff, game Red would dominate all of them.
sure he would
ash ketchum He would.
+Alyssa Bryan duh, since you are controlling him
Momen Muhammad No, no, even the Red that we don't get to control my friend. WE are not Red, he was just our player character for a while. That doesn't mean we're him. c:
Alyssa Bryan its still technically pokerangers opinion bc there has never been a battle of any of these charizards, and game red cant battle any bc he is in a game
I have to agree on that Ash's Charizard is the strongest 1 of the 3 and training in the Charicific Valley made it stronger.
Yes you are absolutely right no Pokemon can equalize Ash's charizard
Why are people constantly comparing ash to red in pokemon origins? Also, the reason for pokemon origins is that while red fights, it does not fight elsewhere. We saw Red's sorcerer fight Moltres. However, this media passed quickly. Because he easily defeated Red Moltres. He beat Zapto with tauros. He beat Articuno with a quick hit. Beat Mewtwo with a mega charizard x (the reason mewtwo behaves stupid is because he acts like the mewtwo in the game. So the connection between red and mewtwo in the manga is very good. Red only beat the charmander, nidoran and metapod) In the manga, untrained pikachu, brock ' beat the onix of flour. As for the battle with Giovanni. Normally gym leaders do not use to full capacity, but even the giovanni, the pokemon he will use in the gym, fights red. He lifted it from the table and took two ultra balls instead. So this war wasn't a gym leader war. But if he wanted to refuse, he could easily beat him. But he still spent pokemon unnecessarily. Snorlax, jolteon and victerybell There was no need to use them because they were directly defeated in one move. He took the life of Kabutops and Ryhorn a little, and then drew with Hitmonlee. He defeated Rhydon. They also bypassed the battle of red against the elite, as they are so easy for red and green. Red's jolteon alone beat lorelei's entire team. He beat Scyther and Bruno his entire team. Dodrio beat Agatha's team. Lapras beat Lance's team. I know this because if they didn't they would let us watch it. But they only showed one scene. Also, all Pokemon were full of energy. So is the green team. We haven't seen Red struggling with other gym leaders because it would be boring as it wasn't difficult. In addition, pokemon generations defeat many home legendary Pokemon using the red, pikachu. And again they skip the scenes. Red has no trouble fighting them. Additionally, when looking at pokemon games, the red levels in Pokemon are higher than all trainers and pokemons. Pokemon masters are also red's charizard stronger than Giovanni's mewtwo Zinnia's rayquaza Gloria's zacian Silver's ho oh Cyrus's palkia. If you don't believe it, you can ask the people playing pokemon masters. Don't forget that too. In the anime universe, the strength of all characters has been reduced to gain ash. May, iris, dawn, serena, brock, misty, Lance, giovanni. All of these characters I counted were stronger in the game and manga universe. However, Giovanni could not connect with mewtwo as in the anime in the game. In the anime, Lance lost to Leon. However, in the game universe, Lance's team levels are higher than Leon's. Looking at the levels in the game universe, Leon's levels are too low for his invincible nickname. Apart from that, the iris was the champion of the game universe. But the anime also went down. Serena, dawn and May. These characters surpassed the champion in the game universe and stopped the criminal organizations. This goes for manga too.
I believe Red's is the strongest. It might have been a long time since I watched the anime, but if i recall correctly, Ash's Charizard never listened to him, and didn't do diddly shiet. It took a very, VERY long time for their bond to form. And for Red and Charmander, it was his equivalent of Ash and Pikachu. Sooo... Take Ash's ungodly powerful Pikachu, and give those attributes to Charizard. Wham.
U are so dumb da seal
Nah... if you beat mewtwo then your g.o.a.t. status.
but also if you beat articuno no mega... g.o.a.t. status.
+mark groop but red did beat articubo without mega evo
+Max Pan
But that articuno was wild and untrained. And he only had to weaken it, not faint it
mewtwo isn't even close to the strongest...
Did you just say Mewtwo is not even close to the strongest? Are you high? He is without a doubt the second strongest legendary pokemon right behind Rayquaza.
When u love charizard and have a pick a fav Charizard
Ash's logic : Started from the bottom now we're at the bottom again
I respect all your opinions, but for me Reds Charizard is still the best for me.
Just like Ash’s, Red and his Charizard has a very strong bond together
Tbh! I don't like red...everyone likes him because he completed the pokedex and he was able to beat a mewtwo...but I don't get it...just 4 episodes and everything goes "Oh hail red"
Anuj Daniel because some people played like him he resembled those who played Pokemon red and fire red specifically charmander line fans who played the game maybe that's why people like him
Same, I personally like Alain more and Alain also has very strong bond and connection with his Mega Charizard X and also he become so obsessed with winning when Marin's Chepin (I don't know how to write this pokemon's name) become sick and also just because Red's Mega Charizard X defeated Mewtwo, it doesn't mean that Alain's Mega Charizard X can't
YOU SERIOUS REDS CHARIZARD IS THE STRONGEST
Pramila Varade nope
opinion
Yes
Yup red's charizard held himself against mewtwo
And even beat legendary birds
So did My infernape xD
I don't know who's the strongest but I surely know who's the most aggressive and that is Ash's charizard.
Finally, something everybody can agree on.
none my charizard is the strongest
fight me
+ash ketchum I'll fight you with my Lv 100 shiny magickarp
+Borussia Dortmund why would you have that
+ash ketchum I was joking lmao Magickarp is useless
How
red is the ultimate trainer. if he had mega evolution he would be even more OP
Still cute compare to Cynthia's mega Garchomp.
Luis Atienza fanboy? Really why is his statement false prove your point kid
Luis Atienza lol fuck you ash fanboy dumbass
Mega Garchomp sucks, the base speed.
MERG1M LoL red is fucking bitch he does know anything he is not in true storyline fuck you
Reds charizard is way stronger than both he earned all badges he defeated elite 4 he deafeated a moltres got all legendary birds and completed the pokedex u so wrong
Lol Red's charizard mega evolved years ago so he mastered it in the next years and they has one of the most strongest bonds. In his story years ago he was just a rookie so he has no ideas of types,levels and abilities advantage. Also he completed some of the other region's pokedex so he has more advantage in ability advantages now. About the level he's much stronger now than Ash and Allan.
hey red has defeated all the legends
in kanto
and he traveld to unova
waited on a mountain
with his charizard
Red didn't ever travel to Unova bro.
+Zeemanhuismerk did you play black 2?
+Zeemanhuismerk are you dutch?
koen richards I see that as non canon and more as fanservice.
But yea, I'm dutch xD
There's a difference between catching legendaries and defeating them. And Red only went to the tournament. Other than that, he's only been to Kanto.
Honestly I don’t care who has the strongest. Red is my favorite no matter what and in my opinion, his Charizard has had way more feats
Red first charizard mega evolution
You know this list is biased when you look at the pfp and the intro
This video is wroooong as heellll..
U shut metal goat u fking bitch
I like how he says my name.
Logic: A Jolteon got one shot by thunderbolt, therfore Red's Charizard is the weakest. LOL
Chris Eko u r right bro
Looking back, one question still remains “Tf is a rhyhorn doing with a Tbolt?”
Dude, the anime has so many logical flaws as well.
What if Trevor actually gives it to Ash in the end?
That would be the best thing!
pause
+Star Sitsu ??
Gives it is a pause
OMFG Yes I like Charizard Y better than Charizard X
Me too
AND HAS ASH BECAME A POKEMON LEAGUE CHAMPION?😂😂😂😂😂😂 RED AND ALAIN HAS!!
Just saved the world like 10 times
Also the only reason ash doesnt win is so they could have go on another adventure because once he's the champion he is probably gonna stay in that region so 🤷♂️
U dumb*** genwunner
@Ankit Bhattacharya hahaha
@Ankit Bhattacharya i'm with you why? 😂
Dude
It's been 20 years since Red's Charizard Mega Evolved
He must know how to control it
Status of their Charizards
Red's: Have a strong bond with each other(Which is why it Mega Evolved in the Pokemon Origins Movie)
Ash's: Have a strong bond also but needed training for discipline(And has stong will for revenge on its first trainer that abandoned it)
Alan's: Y U Depend on Mega Evolution so much WHYYYYYY
I know this is hella late but didn't Alain's Charizard took on mega Rayquaza primal Groudon and primal Kyogre
Nope its not like he fought them like them together sgainst him
Nope he didn't took on mega rayquaza , Alain's charizard was literally getting owned by groudon
Sorry I meant to say primal groudon
Rayquaza was the only pokemon that actually did something and Alain knew he couldn't take Primal Groudon or even Primal Kyogre down
but what happen if the jolteon was quick feets ?
has sorry
Ikr does this guy know about hidden abilities
alejandro Amador true
Red's is pretty weak, but Red fanboys are just to blind to see that. Ash's Charizard is the best by pure strength and experience, but Alan's has the better moveset.
if we would look game wise then red probably would win,but since I'm talking about the anime then yeah red is weak compared to ash and alan ^^ and even though alan has a better moveset I still believe that due to power and experience ash's charizard would win and alan only would win if he mega evolves but that would go against his philosophy ^^
I completely agree
Red is a Strong trainer
Alan is Strong battler (skill and knowledge)
Ash has a Strong bond
DyticNo Skill wise ash is better too. The tactics he used in Sinnoh and a lot of Kalos gym battles are things I'm pretty sure no one else could come up with (Pikachu counting future sight, Goodra using rain dance on Electric Terrain, Counter Shield.)
Ace34Deth7
yeah true he is getting way better in kalos
but in his previous journey he thought he could just use palpitoad against an electric gym
heck he sucked so much there too
My opinion
1:Ash (if mega)
2:Red
3:Alan
If no mega
1:Red
2:Alan
3:Ash
RedPixelWizard yep
Alain's Mega Charizard X is my number 1 favorite Charizard 😁
but strongest will be ash charizard
@@ShinyGreninja07 KK
ReD's ChArIzArD Iz BeTTeR
Edit: I don’t remember making this comment...
YES RED’S CHARIZARD IS BETTER
Ankit Bhattacharya are you sure about that
@@godzillagaming-topic1368 yes we are sure u dumbass
My ranking for three charizards
1.Red's- Because he literally beat a frickin Mewtwo
2.Ash's- Because he's been training in the charicific valley
3.Alain's- He's charizard is still strong but he's highly dependent on mega evolution that's the reason why I ranked his charizard last
@@SaurZilla1984 Ya he beat Mewtwo because of game logic, if Ash was in the games he would of beaten Mewtwo too.
Ash's Charizard spent years in training, yet Ash is still 10... So, proof that ash doesn't age? :P
no i do but i just choose to ignore it
Ash is berfiend with Arceu-Creator of universe, and Dialga- God of time.
+Ninjaxis yes and?
+ash ketchum And those Gods gave you immortality.
+Ninjaxis ik
He only counted the possible winning components for ash and didnt analyze allan's and red's winning components. Allan has years of experience with his charizard . and he didnt count the timeline red is on right now.
N hehemm not to mention red has grown unlike someone... who still looses to a level 5 snivy from one hit 😂
Bro are u dumb or something??
“Red’s charizard is the weakest”
Gold just got really pissed.
who said red's charizard is weakest
it has beatened mewtoo
@@ShinyGreninja07 ok i understood thanks
@@ShinyGreninja07 :\
Ash's Charizard is the strongest in my opinion due to the fact that it has help Ash win some of his toughest battles.
Ash kept charizard for training when he was 10 years old. He is still 10 years in xyz series how could it be years of training in the charicific valley?
hes actually 11 now
They decide not to age Ash; however, it has been years of training for Charizard in the Charicific Valley.
PLOT TWIST-ALAINS CHARIZARD IS ASHS CHARIZARD
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT😲
HOWWWWWWWWWW?????????????
So Giovanni young, and red is a kid, so it possibly Red could be Ash his father. 🤔
To many what if’s, What if a meteor hit the earth killing us all? TO MANY IF’S
Red hasn't aged thou so how can he hit puberty and have a baby that Ash lol idk where I'm going with this nvm 😅😂
It is better if Ash has a Charizard he will be the champion of Kalos league instead of Greninja. If Charizard Mega Evolve into X or Y Now Ash has no Problem
Vaporeon シャワーズ the Bubble Jet Pokemon but ash did have greninja sooo yeah
If ash would of seek the mega stone and bracelet and used his Charizard, that would be awesome.
you might not see this comment but I gotta try
what if you compare the games version (specifically from Gold and Silver or it's remakes) of Red which is the Pokémon Master (even if he loses sometimes) would Red's Charizard fare any better?
the answer is red because he catched all the pokemon by using his charzard
cool gamer Andrew 5000 Tsarkov bruh that means nothing i can catch all the Pokémon with a caterpie
We all know that IntroSpektive has the strongest Charizard.
Totally disagree with this it should be the opposite way round
HAYDRYGOS123 no
Yue Lor yes
Ash is in total sync with his Charizard , he loved his Charizard so much and he knew that his Charizard wants to become stronger , Ash without a second thought he left his Charizard to train in charisiphic valley , so who has stronger bond with their Charizard , lol
Ash always wanted to be the best pokemon trainer , but still he didn't use his Charizard for his desires , he let it go , and he wud have left it for permanent cause he loves his Pokemons very much , so actually tell me who has a stronger bond between their Pokemons , red might have a bonsd between him Charizard but has he ever left it or has he thought about Charizards desire ? Nope ,
Ash has left a lot of Pokemons , primeape , goodra , Greninja , Charizard , Lapras, Squirtle, Butterfree he even left his Pikachu in the beginning this is reason why Ash is the best trainer , and Ash is much better than Alain or red , Ash has that unique quality which is why he has the strongest bond between him and his Pokemons and especially with his special Pokemons , like Pikachu , Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charizard ,goodra , lapras , infernape , Greninja
@@manojbhargav320 not really
Red's Charizard has only lost one battle, which was Blue's Squirtle. And the battle against Gold doesn't count because not everyone won that battle.
Ash's charizard got beat by wilo wisp by dusclops so the strongest is red or alan. And whose charizard is a champion and is in the hall of fame red's charizard
That was the writer's fault, back then they didn't care about this stuff. I can tell plenty of such instances, so saying that is similar to ranting about why isn't Charizard a Dragon type. Lmao
In my opinion, I think that red's Charizard is the strongest
So basically you are a weak charizard XD
But reds charziard is easily stronger than ashes because at the end of Pokémon origins reds charziard mega evolved because of the stones and because of there bond
Mega charizard is part Dragon huge disadvantage against ash’s charizard
RED AND ASH CHARIZARD IS THE STRONGEST
wait a sec? red is the strongest because red discovers mega evolution before ash or Alan were even BORN. And red never listen to Giovanni. at first yes, but then he realized that it was the bond between a trainer and Pokemon that was making him continue. That is why he beat Mewtwo. If he never had the bond with his charizard, it would've never mega-evolved. And it would've never beat mewtwo. instead, it would've DIED. and the Game freak tried to make that as clear as possible. In red's universe, they did rely on level and power. but not RED himself. He knew the true power of Pokemon was in how much of a Bond they had that made them become champion. Ash and Alan also thought that in order for them to win, There Pokemon had to be strong. that is why ashes charizard never listened to ash until charizard chills. red's universe is different from red himself. done.
Anime Sucks Red is in a different universe I think so I dont think that Red was the first to discover
Anime Sucks u don’t hear red don’t even use it from first but alan use it from first even red is in Kanto and Alan is in the Kalos region
no i bet ash was 5 when red discovered mega evolution cause red was 11 when he got charizard and now red is 16 and ash is 10 so ash was 5 when red discovered mega evolution
Ash is in total sync with his Charizard , he loved his Charizard so much and he knew that his Charizard wants to become stronger , Ash without a second thought he left his Charizard to train in charisiphic valley , so who has stronger bond with their Charizard , lol
Ash always wanted to be the best pokemon trainer , but still he didn't use his Charizard for his desires , he let it go , and he wud have left it for permanent cause he loves his Pokemons very much , so actually tell me who has a stronger bond between their Pokemons , red might have a bonsd between him Charizard but has he ever left it or has he thought about Charizards desire ? Nope ,
Ash has left a lot of Pokemons , primeape , goodra , Greninja , Charizard , Lapras, Squirtle, Butterfree he even left his Pikachu in the beginning this is reason why Ash is the best trainer , and Ash is much better than Alain or red , Ash has that unique quality which is why he has the strongest bond between him and his Pokemons and especially with his special Pokemons , like Pikachu , Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charizard ,goodra , lapras , infernape , Greninja
Look ash uses bond phenomenon.
So overall ash is stronger than red
If we speak about charizard
If gets a mega stone then what would you accept
You lost me at Red is not the strongest.Not only did he beat Mewtwo ONE OF THE STRONGEST POKEMON not only that Ash can't mega evolve is Charzard so that should take him out of the running.Next Alans Charzard lost to an Elite Fours Blastoise.Yes his Blastoise was mega but so was Alan's Charzard.Red's Charzard beat a CHAMPIONS Blastoise and there were both regular.PHEW done.
Get a life dude😂😂
Got one and living it good how about you?
+LemonJarin Gaming rat kid detected😂💯🐁
Yes it's name is Edgar Aranda
lets really think bout the reds charizard and blues blastoise I think charizard was waiting to whoop that ass he tried to eat charmander!
but red is the best
Heather Heck how
Heather Heck no he's not ash is
Guys. GUYS. DID YOU SEE WHAT THAT RYHORN DID TO THAT JOLTEON!? But, Red's Charizard is the strongest, and don't go on the anime go DEEEEEP into research.
Not to mention, Allan (if that's how you spell his name) and Red would use mega evaluation. Mega charizard is a dragon flying type. What is super effective against dragon types? Ice and dragon. So if ash taught a dragon move to charizard, (charizard can learn a dragon move by the way if u did not no) he might one shot both there charizards since ashes charizard is so powerful.
none of the mega charizards are dragon flying
The Flash x is
The Flash he also said it at 3:25 in the video
x is dragon fire lol do u kno nothing about pokemon? He said it wrong go search it up if u actually don't know
The Flash my point still stands because of the dragon typing