I love how Pikachu won the final match against Leon but damn do I wish Charizard had a little arc where he makes up for the Indigo League by either beating Leons Charizard or at least pushed it to the point where we all know Pikachu won because or Charizards efforts to beat Leons.
@@tokyodriftmon2014 yeah but they weren't for the big one. Sure he proved his loyalty and power with said wins and but it would have rhymed like poetry like George Lucas once said. Helping Ash win the championship in a meaningfully way would have accomplished that in a better way in my opinion.
That charizard episode is crazy because ash cared for him since day 1 and literally begged him to at least try to get a win. As an adult that hits different
@@trevhart2124 blud u ain't no pokemon fan.....get outta here....find on your own.....and be grateful that you are given the chance to find something on your own in ur whole life 🤡
@@49ersfanMatt It was during the events of Charicific Valley. Charizard ended up in the water below, barely keeping its tail up above water level. It was falling asleep and TR made sure its tail doesn't get submerged by throwing small rocks at it and keeping it awake.
The sad thing is the Charizard arc really made me drop the anime for a long time. It just felt that nothing Ash did ever mattered and the anime would always force him to lose to keep the series going. Other than the Orange Island league, which no one seems to really respect Ash wasn't allowed to win anything for a long long time.
@@redredpanda_2 You have to also remember the theme of the first or so season. It was about becoming a Pokemon master, and the whole theme song was about "Gotta Catch them All". Yet not only does Ash barely catch anything he seemed to constantly let go of his strongest pokemon be it Charizard, Butterfree, Squirtle etc. Add to that Ash basically losing every match it got a bit annoying. But as you say I eventually picked it up again. Watched Johto and such. Sort of dropped off again after they got Iris though, can't remember what season that was.
@@youngf.l.y.1467 One the biggest issues was Ash was the "protagonist". Every time something needed to be explained for people who never played the games (or even watched another episode of the series) Ash had to be the idiot to ask the question. This made him seem really stupid as basic facts he learned in a previous episode never really carried over to the next.
A great theory is always the badges. Ash earned most of his badges on technicalities or gifts for helping beat team Rocket. Especially in the early seasons of Kanto. If you consider the badge mechanics in the game it's very likely Charizard didn't even consider half the badges Ash had as earned, making his respect even less. After all if it's about "proving your strength" how much strength is really proven when all you do is lose a match and then have Team rocket interrupt it and then blow them up?
@@kurokamireaper3761I don’t think it could be considered a pity win. Yeah they lost the battle with the gym trainer but they won the battle AND saved countless Pokémon from team rocket. They did win. They just won a different battle.
The thing is, the badges being needed for the player to control their Pokémon is only in the games so to prevent newcomers from being able to steamroll the game by getting their friends to trade them high-level Pokémon. Not to mention, there seems to be no evidence that the anime adapts such a mechanic.
It always annoys me that it literally took like 200 episodes for Ash's Charizard to not be an asshole anymore and respect Ash as a trainer. I personally feel like that's way too long for character development.
tbh in real life.. if you were ever betrayed and abandoned while at your lowest..chances are it would take you at least that long to recover and be able to trust other people again
I don't think it was that. If you've never been abused, you cannot understand. If you have suffered that, you don't trust anyone because you don't want to be hurt again, so you push away people that genuinely want to help or care for you, its a vicious circle that some people who have suffered this, sometimes cannot break out of.
@@Sovereign-kh4ng And it never excuses it. There's a difference between there being a reason for it, and it being excuseable. Someone refusing to face up to their own issues, is not an excuse for them fucking over others - Especially not others that helped them, and abusing their trust in turn. I say this as someone with my own life stories, so don't give me that shit. Most of the time it's based in a from of cowardice, refusing to face their own issues. But even if there's some level to it being understandable, it's NOT excuseable. Anyone who thinks it is either eating some gaslighting story, or self-centered to the point of delusion.
As even a young kid, I can't tell you how upset I was at charizard refusing to fight getting ash disqualified. I was fuming. To this day all these years later I'm still fuming.
Yep think we all felt Ash's loss on that ep. When the referee said Ash was disqualified sucked lol. The Pokemon League episodes were my favorite though!
I was aging out of Pokémon when Ash lost the the League because of Charizard's apathy. When the Ash lost, I was pretty much done. I was also annoyed that I watched this Charmander get brought in from abandonment only to grow up and repetitively bite that hand that feeds.
I remember watching that Charizard vs Magmar fight in 2000 with my friends, when i was 10. It was like one of the most important episodes we ever watched. It was like watching world cup finals. I will never forget it. We rushed straight from school back home with snacks and drinks just not to miss it...good times
Charizard fought in the Johto league in the most epic battle of the series against Gary's Blastoise. He was the sole reason Ash won that match, but Charizard also barely lost to a Blaziken in the next round, on their last pokemon.
Why can’t they have the charizard not obey by performing the wrong move? And when he sees ash irritated he could just tap the ball and go back inside saying “fine do it yourself ash or become a charizard yourself”
@@ThunderZoltash didn't actually earn most of his badges up to that point most were given by beating the worst members of team rocket that are extremely easy to beat one of them gets beaten by his own pokemon even
Dude got a Pikachu that disliked him until he saved that electric rat's life and a Pokedex, told to catch things and kicked out of Palet Town with the clothes he had on his back. AT TEN. 😂 The fact he didn't die night one out in the rain being pecked by Spearows is surprising.
@@zoienjooy Imo Charizard's battle against Blastoise meant so much more. It was against freaking Gary! The only time Ash ever beat his childhood rival, and it was with his greatest accomplishment as a trainer, his Charizard.
Charizard was such wasted potential. Even as a kid I remember feeling cheated out of the experience, because Ash absolutely SUCKED at getting Pokemon to evolve and we never got to see him use any of the really cool Pokemon. He finally gets a stage 3 evolution of his own and it's nothing but a shitshow from start to finish. There's really not even a "redemption", it's just a shitty, stubborn Charizard left to be the weakest of a bunch of other Charizards.
Yeah I agree, I always loved the Pokemon anime and the scene of Ash leaving Charizard is one of the most emotional I ever watched, but in retrospective the anime feels like a nerfed version of the game. You never got to see what you always wanted to see and Charizard attitude is just the first example.
Wow this is the worst way to describe Ash’s Charizard. He’s an icon who’s character development and tough rebellious phases helped to flesh out the personality of Pokemon and set the foundation of future Fire starters and aces of Ash alike
@rickyronny4019 I didn't like the Indigo Plateau ending and Ash is not a great trainer imo but I think the reason for some pokemon disobeying is that they were animals that aren't normally domesticated. Charizard = Dragon Primeape: Ape Haunter: Ghost. They had volatile personalities and ash often struggled reigning them in
He was at that time inexperienced trainer and he got a lot of badges because of plot armor. Later in pokemon journeys he attracts pokemon that would previously make fun of him or refuse to listen to him like dragonite or gengar. It probably the reason why bulbasaur and squirtle never fully evolved. Cause they wouldn t listen to him too. Even in black and white he didn t have fully evolved team. First region with fully evolved team was kalos. That when ash became experienced trainer and made big progress.
if thats true y pikachu only know 4 move though out all the seasons or only used 4 different moves in each battle and y some character bring up pps@@natalimoina
@@idontneedher7180 Pokemon generally only know 4 moves in the anime, though they don't bother being too consistent with this except for with Pikachu. When have they brought up pp? And what does any of this have to do with what I said? The badge thing is never mentioned in the show, nor would it make sense logically outside being a game mechanic.
Charizard's story is one of abuse, overcoming abuse and learning to trust others again. As somebody who was abused as a child, it is really hard to trust people that you do end up pushing away people who genuinely want to help you. When you hit your 30's, like I did, you start to embrace yourself again and come to accept what happened to your wasn't your fault, no matter how many times you tell yourself, you should have been "better", "smarter", "stronger". Ash gets a lot of a crap but he really is a GOAT because he accepts that his Pokemon need to find their own place in the world and doesn't force them to stay. True love is accepting that somebody may be better without you and letting them go, for their sake, rather then your own. Very few people can do that.
another thing is that you'll never fully be better. even when you get better you still carry that trauma around with you. you can learn the strength to carry it but you still always have to carry it. that's the case with charizard. he always has that chip on his shoulder. it's tough to ever really let your guard down like that ever again when you face abuse, even when deep down you know it's safe to around certain people. the fear just won't let you
Charizard was an ungrateful pos for aaaaaages. Charmander was so sweet and Ash legit saved Charmander. Unlike Bulba and Squirtle who he mostly helped out.
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess because his former slave owner treated him so badly that he almost died. - And pretty obvious Charizard specifically was never a slave to Ash, he did whatever he wanted. He could have easily flown off and never came back.
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess A slave doesn’t get to sleep if his master wants it, Ash is a moron and shitty trainer but he is NOT a slaver, his Pokemon are VERy content mooching off him.
9:08 tbh i believe its because mewtwo messed with their memories at the end of the movie and everybody lowkey forgot bout what happened , its not just because ash just revived and charizard returned to bein a brat.
If charizard didn’t disobey ash in the indigo league, ash might’ve actually won. At the very least, ash would’ve gone so much farther in the league than he did. I don’t really understand how the pokemon league actually works in the anime. If somebody wins the league tournament, do they fight the elite four and the champion? If so, I don’t know if ash could’ve won had charizard been obedient to him because the elite four and lance feel like an end goal for ash. I’m kinda bummed we never got to see ash fight against the elite four back then, the way we do in the video games. Instead in the anime the Pokémon league is like a tournament, it’s confusing. A good way that ash could’ve dealt with charizard/charmeleon being disobedient was if ash had used his other pokemon. That’s another thing I thought was weird about the anime. Ash ended up winning all these badges while having many first stage pokemon. His squirtle and bulbasaur never even evolved. His squirtle and bulbasaur were very strong despite never evolving. I wish that they got as much focus as charizard did, especially because he obtained all three of them around the same time. They could’ve at least became a wartortle and ivysaur at some point and he could’ve relied on them a little more. The anime did that with other trainers too. Many of them were competing in the Pokémon league despite not having fully evolved Pokémon. Ritchie is a good example of this because his team was very weak but there was also that girl that fought ash in the Pokémon league that had a bellsprout on her team. How are we supposed to take the Pokémon league seriously when her ACE was a bellsprout and it was fighting against ash’s muk? I mean, were we supposed to believe that was an even matchup? I think the anime focused on charizard so much because of how popular charizard became and they wanted charizard to be the starter pokemon associated with ash. I think a lot of the popularity charizard got came from his portrayal in the anime. The anime gave him personality and characterization that weren’t given nearly as much to the other Pokémon ash had. I loved the indigo league anime but it didn’t feel like it had much of a plot and it was very episodic. A lot of the focus should’ve been on ash fighting the elite four and building them up as characters/trainers. I wished it was more true to how things worked in the video games. I think it was because they wanted the anime to go on for as long as they could but it made it feel like it was full of filler.
Evolution does not inherently mean gaining power, that's only a game thing. Also, there isn't actually filler in pokemon. The whole of the journey is very important to Ash and everyone and the story.
Technically most if not all of the anime is filler, with the non-filler parts being when a player-insert character from the games (For example May) fights a gym leader
Funny enough i knew Ash wouldnt make it to the elite four for the whole fact Gary was eliminated earlier. Meaning they didn't plan for that to happen given the rival is always a step ahead in the games to build up for the final fight of first gen games. I thought the anime would end with Ash winning the league and his final opponent would be Gary, just like the game making me believe the game spoiled me the ending and i was hyped to see it happen on the show, where Ash would finally prove he's better than him but once that premise popped up I guessed they planned to make him lose in one of the brackets. Also in the version i played which we all at school bought after the anime one of the names you could pick was Ash and Gary for the rival, so we never realized that Red and Green around our friend's group actually were different people. Where Red was a completely skilled and talented natural at being a trainer unlike Ash and that Green despite having an ego flaunting issue was still kinda more respectful on Red at the end and not a full on jerk like gary.
Ash wasn't a great trainer. The Pokemon with more "unpredictable" tendencies like Charizard(dragon), Primeape (Monkey) and Haunter (ghost) he failed to tame. He also didn't evolve most his pokemon like you mentioned, and often did not switch pokemon if there was a clear type disadvantage.
To he fair at that point Ash had so many ace mons it was hard to find a spot for charizard. Hell, you could argue he had numerous mons that the had a much closer bond with than he ever did with Charizard. Infernape for example was essentially the same story as Charizard but much more fleshed out and a central plot of the Sinnoh Arc.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u Maybe following the anime makes you feel it some other way by knowing deeper stories and characters but for me who dropped the series early on, while I was still a kid, Charizard was the Pokémon I always wanted to have as a partner, the favourite one from the first gen games so for me the nostalgia is a huge factor in this 🥰
i love Charizard so much❤ its a shame he became a brat lol 😂 i nearly cried in the reboot movie i choose you, when he runs back to his primary trainer and the guy kicks him off his leg into the dirt and then Ash saves him 🙏 the look of realization on Charizards face made me tear up😢🥲
Ash didn’t betray Charizard it cared for it and had to say his goodbyes so he could train in Charisific Valley. If anything Ash was an infinitely awesome trainer to him. Unless you’re talking about his Previous owner Damian then yea he was betrayed. I’m referring to the thumbnail btw.
I love Charizard's story so much. In my opinion, out of all the members in Ash's team. he has the most interesting development and background story. Charizard shows human nature so well. He was betrayed by his former trainer and developed a deep distrust of humans. It took a lot to gain his trust again, even though Ash showed him a lot of affection. You said it so well: Charizard wants to be the best and doesn't follow Ash's orders because he's afraid to be left behind again. But I'm so happy that he is fine and happy now because he learns to trust and be friends with Ash and the others 🥰
He never mentions when he flys across the world pretty much to save Pikachu an ash in the movie an he never says anything about that this peris right you may need to watch the video again
i think charmander always had doubts ever since he was abandoned, which was triggered after it evolved into Charmeleon and then, as egotistical Charizard. After it got hit by Poliwrath's Ice Beam attack and Ash worked really hard to revive it, it realized Ash genuinely cared about him and became 100% obedient and understood Ash was not abandoning it when he left it at the Valley. at it came back even stronger than before
Ash never got 2 gym badges legitimately (Brock and Misty) and they were given to him out sheer pity due to how poor he was at battling. It's no wonder Charizard never listened to him.
Charizard threw hands with Drake's Dragonite as well. He lost obviously lost but weakened it enough for Pikachu to finish him off. One of the few times I enjoyed Pikachu getting the final KO.
Yup. It likely would have turned out different if the first thing Ash sent him out on wasn't to throw a fight against the weakest pokemon ever. Though, likely better for Charizard in the long run.
If i was ash after he got eliminated from the league, I would've made sure charazard hered my comments. "Damian was right!" "I should have left you on that rock!" "You're so weak. I didn't even want to use you!"
Please keep going with this level of introspection man. You have a real gift for bringing this stuff together and to life. Keep going despite any adversity you might have on the personal. You have a new subscriber in me
6:27 I think it’s interesting you show some Charmeleon scenes from movie that recreates a new journey for Ash… As in that one of the major and a surprise difference in it is, his Charmander in it, even after evolution still obeys him… Unlike the show..
Whats funny is when i was like 8 or 10 forgot my age but i remembered this episode and never abandoned pokemon in my red and blue version after this lol.
OMG.. this filled in a lot of gaps for me.. I never seen the Indigo Battle ending to this day (because I was shipped off,) and to see the rest of his story made me cry.. thank you for your service. ❤️❤️❤️
Is what I recently thought about when Charmeleon evolved into Charizard is the fact that he didn’t evolve because he had just finally reached the level of strength that he would automatically evolve. He evolved out of sheer will. He evolved just because he felt like it. And he hadn’t battled much as charmeleon. He was very lazy in fact. But then all of a sudden he just reached his final evolution because he simply could. That tells me that he must have been incredibly strong as Charmander basically already so strong to become a Charizard before he even was a Charmeleon.
Why is this called "The Complete Story of Charizard" if it cuts anything after Charicific Valley? There are numerous appearances that are more than just "cameos" in Johto alone. The Battle Frontier he battles a legendary or two. In Unova he gets added back to Ash's team for a series. At the very least, don't say they're just "cameos" when you know that's not true.
14:32 I actually clicked the vid to hear all about the cameos which I know little about, cuz I already know Charizard's origin story, having been born in the 1990s. Disappointed
Now people that asking " HOW CHARIZARD CAN BE YOUR BEST POKEMON" Look at this story, go watch the anime, if you have an heart like ash u're loving Charmander story. That's why is my favourite, he do all the journey until the start of the anime
I think Ash being eliminated from the Indigo League was fitting for where he was at. He is a trainer that got lucky his whole way there, most of his badges were given to him, he happened to catch a lot of strong Pokemon despite not using them much like Muk and Kingler, and he happened upon a very strong charmander. He was very inexperienced at this point, he should have been weeded out long before that point. Charizard deciding to take a nap and costing him the match was a fitting end for his league run
when I first played Pokemon Blue edition around the time when Pokemon Season 1 would air in Germany on TV I started with Charmander too. I remember I had problems beating Misty for the second Arena medal so I trained a lot but then Charmeleon had a too high level for me so it would just do what it wanted instead of listening, too :D
I stopped watching pokemon for a min and never really finished season 1 so seeing this video made me want to go back and finish it! 13:55 I almost teared a bit from this 😅
This would make sense if it was actually like the games. Think about your assumption. Charmeleon started disobeying Ash because of the badge count, right? Well tell me, why did Charizard continue to disobey Ash in the pokemon league? Everyone knows you have to have all eight to compete there. Charizard was simply on a power trip. That's all. He was similar to how females act. You meet a chick who has nothing, with potential. She's "loyal" in the beginning. But as soon as she starts leveling up, they switch up. Each time they level up, they feel they are to good, for the one who built them up. She leaves you. The world and new guys humble her and she can't admit she was wrong. When you start to buil her up again, she realizes, she mest up. Charizard thought he was tough shit and was humbled by Poliwrath. Ash showed he was loyal and Charizard realized he screwed up and changed.
The crazy thing that always annoyed me was that behind Pikachu, Charizard was the Pokémon Ash most cared about. I understand why they would have it be so defiant, but it took WAY too long before it became obedient.
Great job here! Would have been nice if you mentioned the episode Pallet Town Panic. Where Charizard still disobedient but takes out team rocket with bombs and saves pikachu
The disobedience thing is dumb. That is an in game mechanic to prevent a starting game from using a Lv.100. This does not translate to the anime Pokémon world.
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I love how Pikachu won the final match against Leon but damn do I wish Charizard had a little arc where he makes up for the Indigo League by either beating Leons Charizard or at least pushed it to the point where we all know Pikachu won because or Charizards efforts to beat Leons.
Yeah your 100% spitting would’ve loved to see charizard have a get back
He beat Gary's blastoise and Noland's articuno
@@tokyodriftmon2014 yeah but they weren't for the big one. Sure he proved his loyalty and power with said wins and but it would have rhymed like poetry like George Lucas once said. Helping Ash win the championship in a meaningfully way would have accomplished that in a better way in my opinion.
@@tokyodriftmon2014dont remember noland but Gary was anoying even when i first watched the anime
Yeah I thought Charizard will come
That charizard episode is crazy because ash cared for him since day 1 and literally begged him to at least try to get a win. As an adult that hits different
Yeah 100% watching these as an adult make me see the deeper theme
Ash should have left Charmander in the rain. The other trainer was right. He was never anything but a headache
Charmelion was acting like your typical teenager
He was going through his rebellious age
Charmeleon is literally the awkward teenager phase haha.
Spelling is hard.
I wasn't like that as a teenager
@@ZeeGan-i6e then your not typical that's good I guess
Team rocket truly the unsung heros of all of anime
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They saved the studio millions of dollars. Every episode would have at least 2 minutes of screen time recycled to do their intros lol.
They suck
Ash leaving Charizard was the only episode that made me cry more than Bye Bye, Butterfree
Which episode is that?
Charizard makes a Return during the Johto region.
+ashes butterfree comes back in master juournears
So true 😢
I was so disappointed when he parted ways with Charizard because by that point in the show Charizard became my favourite Pokémon in the entire anime
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION HOW TEAM ROCKET STAYED UP ALL NIGHT TO MAKE SURE CHARIZARDS FIRE WAS NEVER PUT OUT!
Damn
What episode? I need to see the moment at least
Yes...true
@@trevhart2124 blud u ain't no pokemon fan.....get outta here....find on your own.....and be grateful that you are given the chance to find something on your own in ur whole life 🤡
that was ash that did that not team rocket lol lol
@@49ersfanMatt It was during the events of Charicific Valley. Charizard ended up in the water below, barely keeping its tail up above water level. It was falling asleep and TR made sure its tail doesn't get submerged by throwing small rocks at it and keeping it awake.
The sad thing is the Charizard arc really made me drop the anime for a long time. It just felt that nothing Ash did ever mattered and the anime would always force him to lose to keep the series going. Other than the Orange Island league, which no one seems to really respect Ash wasn't allowed to win anything for a long long time.
Yeah, same. I eventually went back but the Charizard thing was hard to get through.
Because ash is stupid lmao like alotta things are sheer luck and plot armor
@@redredpanda_2 You have to also remember the theme of the first or so season. It was about becoming a Pokemon master, and the whole theme song was about "Gotta Catch them All". Yet not only does Ash barely catch anything he seemed to constantly let go of his strongest pokemon be it Charizard, Butterfree, Squirtle etc.
Add to that Ash basically losing every match it got a bit annoying. But as you say I eventually picked it up again. Watched Johto and such. Sort of dropped off again after they got Iris though, can't remember what season that was.
@@youngf.l.y.1467 One the biggest issues was Ash was the "protagonist". Every time something needed to be explained for people who never played the games (or even watched another episode of the series) Ash had to be the idiot to ask the question.
This made him seem really stupid as basic facts he learned in a previous episode never really carried over to the next.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming Yeah, I Also just dropped off in journeys after dropping of in sun and moon and then picking sun and moon back up a few years later.
“Who needs a weak charizard anyway.”
Felt that line
That made me cry 😭😭
We all did.@@rahulbarick3366
@@rahulbarick3366 preach brother, it still hits my heart and soul when I watch that episode 😭
Pokemon fans: "frfr"
Also Pokemon fans: "terrible nature. Release. "
Another thing thst hits hard is that this is literally the exact same things charizard's old owner said when charizard was a charmander
A great theory is always the badges. Ash earned most of his badges on technicalities or gifts for helping beat team Rocket. Especially in the early seasons of Kanto. If you consider the badge mechanics in the game it's very likely Charizard didn't even consider half the badges Ash had as earned, making his respect even less. After all if it's about "proving your strength" how much strength is really proven when all you do is lose a match and then have Team rocket interrupt it and then blow them up?
Charizard hates plot armor..
@@aSmolGothyou dont think someone would help? I absolutely do. The world is filled with people who wouldnt leave another person to suffer.
@@TheCronotrigger1212 That is different. Helping is good, but getting the badge from helping is not it. Give him something else, but not a pity win.
@@kurokamireaper3761I don’t think it could be considered a pity win. Yeah they lost the battle with the gym trainer but they won the battle AND saved countless Pokémon from team rocket. They did win. They just won a different battle.
The thing is, the badges being needed for the player to control their Pokémon is only in the games so to prevent newcomers from being able to steamroll the game by getting their friends to trade them high-level Pokémon. Not to mention, there seems to be no evidence that the anime adapts such a mechanic.
It always annoys me that it literally took like 200 episodes for Ash's Charizard to not be an asshole anymore and respect Ash as a trainer. I personally feel like that's way too long for character development.
That's just Japan's writing for you...great animation...The writing and character development not so much...
tbh in real life.. if you were ever betrayed and abandoned while at your lowest..chances are it would take you at least that long to recover and be able to trust other people again
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragonwhat are you yapping about, you just generalized every single japanese shows out there. Dumb opinion
Your right ngl@@workdesu
@@applepie1835Japan’s anime style is just, “don’t think about it, just go with it,” and it does get annoying after awhile.
After everything Ash did for Charmander it was sad to see how much charmeleon/charizard disrespected him.
I don't think it was that. If you've never been abused, you cannot understand. If you have suffered that, you don't trust anyone because you don't want to be hurt again, so you push away people that genuinely want to help or care for you, its a vicious circle that some people who have suffered this, sometimes cannot break out of.
@@Sovereign-kh4ngtwo things can be true definitely suffered trauma but charizard was very disrespectful and horrible to ash
@@Sovereign-kh4ng And it never excuses it. There's a difference between there being a reason for it, and it being excuseable. Someone refusing to face up to their own issues, is not an excuse for them fucking over others - Especially not others that helped them, and abusing their trust in turn.
I say this as someone with my own life stories, so don't give me that shit.
Most of the time it's based in a from of cowardice, refusing to face their own issues. But even if there's some level to it being understandable, it's NOT excuseable. Anyone who thinks it is either eating some gaslighting story, or self-centered to the point of delusion.
@@Nyarlathotep_Flagg everyone has their personal opinions so sleep with it
@@doctorsagro-vetltd.2795 Sense. Start making some.
Charmander was my favorite character. After he evolved, the show didn't seem the same to me. Charmander had a heart of gold that was endearing, imo.
true. I remember when I skipped some episodes as kid and thought Ash has Charmander and Charizard separately xd because they were so different
*charizard is loafing around*
*charizard got enough and shot you with a gun*
*Charizard pretended not to notice*
Charizard won't obey
Charizard fled.
*Charizard fell asleep*
As even a young kid, I can't tell you how upset I was at charizard refusing to fight getting ash disqualified. I was fuming. To this day all these years later I'm still fuming.
us bro :(
Yep think we all felt Ash's loss on that ep. When the referee said Ash was disqualified sucked lol. The Pokemon League episodes were my favorite though!
I never liked Ash as a main character but I hated that episode because all the effort Pikachu & Kingler went thru went down the toilet
I was aging out of Pokémon when Ash lost the the League because of Charizard's apathy. When the Ash lost, I was pretty much done. I was also annoyed that I watched this Charmander get brought in from abandonment only to grow up and repetitively bite that hand that feeds.
I remember watching that Charizard vs Magmar fight in 2000 with my friends, when i was 10. It was like one of the most important episodes we ever watched. It was like watching world cup finals. I will never forget it. We rushed straight from school back home with snacks and drinks just not to miss it...good times
Yup, I remember the same. I've never seen a cartoon fight have that same impact ever since.
They didn't want Charizard to obey as he would have won the league
No
Charizard fought in the Johto league in the most epic battle of the series against Gary's Blastoise. He was the sole reason Ash won that match, but Charizard also barely lost to a Blaziken in the next round, on their last pokemon.
@@Paal2005 wasn't it ashs mistake for the loss
@jester8755 it often is. Ash doesn't evolve most his pokemon and rarely considers type advantages in his fights
Why can’t they have the charizard not obey by performing the wrong move? And when he sees ash irritated he could just tap the ball and go back inside saying “fine do it yourself ash or become a charizard yourself”
Yoooo we need more of these at least for the first generation of Ash's Pokemon
Will do man, I’ll do the complete story for more of Ash’s Pokémon’s
@@ThunderZoltash didn't actually earn most of his badges up to that point most were given by beating the worst members of team rocket that are extremely easy to beat one of them gets beaten by his own pokemon even
did you do pikachu? he has an interesting backstory shown in journeys@@ThunderZolt
nevermind i just saw it in the recommended list for the next video XD i'm 100% watching it@@ThunderZolt
@@dk4kja8 Thanks a lot dropping littens backstory tommorow soon!
A reminder that no one, not even Oak himself, gave Ash any real advice. Can't really be angry at our boy.
Dude got a Pikachu that disliked him until he saved that electric rat's life and a Pokedex, told to catch things and kicked out of Palet Town with the clothes he had on his back. AT TEN. 😂
The fact he didn't die night one out in the rain being pecked by Spearows is surprising.
Man, you completely forgot how Ash's Charizard beats Gary's Blastoise.
And the greatest victory of charizard defeating an articuno
That was completely wild
@@zoienjooy Imo Charizard's battle against Blastoise meant so much more. It was against freaking Gary! The only time Ash ever beat his childhood rival, and it was with his greatest accomplishment as a trainer, his Charizard.
LOL Ash's Charizard was one of the strongest characters in all of the Pokemon series.
@@zoienjooyI mean type advantage exists
Charizard had a Vegeta moment 😂😂😂
Charizard was such wasted potential. Even as a kid I remember feeling cheated out of the experience, because Ash absolutely SUCKED at getting Pokemon to evolve and we never got to see him use any of the really cool Pokemon. He finally gets a stage 3 evolution of his own and it's nothing but a shitshow from start to finish. There's really not even a "redemption", it's just a shitty, stubborn Charizard left to be the weakest of a bunch of other Charizards.
Yeah I agree, I always loved the Pokemon anime and the scene of Ash leaving Charizard is one of the most emotional I ever watched, but in retrospective the anime feels like a nerfed version of the game. You never got to see what you always wanted to see and Charizard attitude is just the first example.
Didn't Charizard go back to Ash eventually?
Wow this is the worst way to describe Ash’s Charizard. He’s an icon who’s character development and tough rebellious phases helped to flesh out the personality of Pokemon and set the foundation of future Fire starters and aces of Ash alike
@rickyronny4019 I didn't like the Indigo Plateau ending and Ash is not a great trainer imo but I think the reason for some pokemon disobeying is that they were animals that aren't normally domesticated.
Charizard = Dragon
Primeape: Ape
Haunter: Ghost.
They had volatile personalities and ash often struggled reigning them in
In journeys, infernape challenged Charizard to a fight and lost so badly he left to ranch to cope 💀
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He went to Therapy. 🤣🤣
@@Thisissirknight tell me you didn't watch the anime without telling me you didn't watch the anime:
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He was at that time inexperienced trainer and he got a lot of badges because of plot armor. Later in pokemon journeys he attracts pokemon that would previously make fun of him or refuse to listen to him like dragonite or gengar. It probably the reason why bulbasaur and squirtle never fully evolved. Cause they wouldn t listen to him too. Even in black and white he didn t have fully evolved team. First region with fully evolved team was kalos. That when ash became experienced trainer and made big progress.
well in season one remeber ashe was mostly given his badges not earned so his over level charizard wont obey him is normal
this is the anime though, not games
if thats true y pikachu only know 4 move though out all the seasons or only used 4 different moves in each battle and y some character bring up pps@@natalimoina
@@idontneedher7180 Pokemon generally only know 4 moves in the anime, though they don't bother being too consistent with this except for with Pikachu. When have they brought up pp? And what does any of this have to do with what I said? The badge thing is never mentioned in the show, nor would it make sense logically outside being a game mechanic.
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you said the game and show is differnt than why even bother following the games rule if that the case.@@natalimoina
Ash was Charizards side trainer... we've all been a back up before. Damian broke charmander emotionally, and mentally.
If it was me, Charizard would’ve gotten taken to the woods and got that old yeller send off 😂
I actually wrote a fic when I was a teenager about that lol I was so angry after I saw that episode that it was my way of venting off my rage.
@@aaron90omar Pokémon should’ve picked that episode up 😂
@@aaron90omar it could’ve been one of those forbidden/banned episodes 😂
@@rio6524Lol Let's just say that I went overboard with making Ash taking revenge on Charizard and Team Rocket xD Guy was out for blood!
@@aaron90omar ….good
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You forgot to mention that team Rocket stayed all night to make sure Charizards fire dont goes out 14:45
Charizard's story is one of abuse, overcoming abuse and learning to trust others again. As somebody who was abused as a child, it is really hard to trust people that you do end up pushing away people who genuinely want to help you. When you hit your 30's, like I did, you start to embrace yourself again and come to accept what happened to your wasn't your fault, no matter how many times you tell yourself, you should have been "better", "smarter", "stronger". Ash gets a lot of a crap but he really is a GOAT because he accepts that his Pokemon need to find their own place in the world and doesn't force them to stay.
True love is accepting that somebody may be better without you and letting them go, for their sake, rather then your own. Very few people can do that.
I feel this fr.
I too was abused so ik how you feel. As you said hard to trust people and push them away when they try to help. Been there done that.
another thing is that you'll never fully be better. even when you get better you still carry that trauma around with you. you can learn the strength to carry it but you still always have to carry it. that's the case with charizard. he always has that chip on his shoulder. it's tough to ever really let your guard down like that ever again when you face abuse, even when deep down you know it's safe to around certain people. the fear just won't let you
I hope you’re all doing OK out there.
Charizard was an ungrateful pos for aaaaaages. Charmander was so sweet and Ash legit saved Charmander. Unlike Bulba and Squirtle who he mostly helped out.
By ages if you mean a few episodes,then yeah
Why should charizard be grateful for being a slave
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess because his former slave owner treated him so badly that he almost died.
- And pretty obvious Charizard specifically was never a slave to Ash, he did whatever he wanted. He could have easily flown off and never came back.
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess A slave doesn’t get to sleep if his master wants it, Ash is a moron and shitty trainer but he is NOT a slaver, his Pokemon are VERy content mooching off him.
The throwback man...thank you for bringing back that piece of childhood
Damian = average pokimon go player
Wtf?
lmao
Accurate 💀
Yo fr accurate 💀!
9:08 tbh i believe its because mewtwo messed with their memories at the end of the movie and everybody lowkey forgot bout what happened , its not just because ash just revived and charizard returned to bein a brat.
If charizard didn’t disobey ash in the indigo league, ash might’ve actually won. At the very least, ash would’ve gone so much farther in the league than he did. I don’t really understand how the pokemon league actually works in the anime. If somebody wins the league tournament, do they fight the elite four and the champion? If so, I don’t know if ash could’ve won had charizard been obedient to him because the elite four and lance feel like an end goal for ash. I’m kinda bummed we never got to see ash fight against the elite four back then, the way we do in the video games. Instead in the anime the Pokémon league is like a tournament, it’s confusing.
A good way that ash could’ve dealt with charizard/charmeleon being disobedient was if ash had used his other pokemon. That’s another thing I thought was weird about the anime. Ash ended up winning all these badges while having many first stage pokemon. His squirtle and bulbasaur never even evolved. His squirtle and bulbasaur were very strong despite never evolving. I wish that they got as much focus as charizard did, especially because he obtained all three of them around the same time. They could’ve at least became a wartortle and ivysaur at some point and he could’ve relied on them a little more. The anime did that with other trainers too. Many of them were competing in the Pokémon league despite not having fully evolved Pokémon. Ritchie is a good example of this because his team was very weak but there was also that girl that fought ash in the Pokémon league that had a bellsprout on her team. How are we supposed to take the Pokémon league seriously when her ACE was a bellsprout and it was fighting against ash’s muk? I mean, were we supposed to believe that was an even matchup?
I think the anime focused on charizard so much because of how popular charizard became and they wanted charizard to be the starter pokemon associated with ash. I think a lot of the popularity charizard got came from his portrayal in the anime. The anime gave him personality and characterization that weren’t given nearly as much to the other Pokémon ash had. I loved the indigo league anime but it didn’t feel like it had much of a plot and it was very episodic. A lot of the focus should’ve been on ash fighting the elite four and building them up as characters/trainers. I wished it was more true to how things worked in the video games. I think it was because they wanted the anime to go on for as long as they could but it made it feel like it was full of filler.
Evolution does not inherently mean gaining power, that's only a game thing. Also, there isn't actually filler in pokemon. The whole of the journey is very important to Ash and everyone and the story.
Technically most if not all of the anime is filler, with the non-filler parts being when a player-insert character from the games (For example May) fights a gym leader
Funny enough i knew Ash wouldnt make it to the elite four for the whole fact Gary was eliminated earlier. Meaning they didn't plan for that to happen given the rival is always a step ahead in the games to build up for the final fight of first gen games.
I thought the anime would end with Ash winning the league and his final opponent would be Gary, just like the game making me believe the game spoiled me the ending and i was hyped to see it happen on the show, where Ash would finally prove he's better than him but once that premise popped up I guessed they planned to make him lose in one of the brackets.
Also in the version i played which we all at school bought after the anime one of the names you could pick was Ash and Gary for the rival, so we never realized that Red and Green around our friend's group actually were different people. Where Red was a completely skilled and talented natural at being a trainer unlike Ash and that Green despite having an ego flaunting issue was still kinda more respectful on Red at the end and not a full on jerk like gary.
Ash wasn't a great trainer. The Pokemon with more "unpredictable" tendencies like Charizard(dragon), Primeape (Monkey) and Haunter (ghost) he failed to tame.
He also didn't evolve most his pokemon like you mentioned, and often did not switch pokemon if there was a clear type disadvantage.
I vaguely recall Ash having 8 badges and still getting ignored by Charizard. Lizardwings deepfried his own career.
Literally, all the times he got the badges in Kanto was either by technicality or Team Rocket blasting off. Ash would've been smoked in reality
Ash finally becoming champion and not seeing Charizard being part of that team made me feel truly sad.
To he fair at that point Ash had so many ace mons it was hard to find a spot for charizard. Hell, you could argue he had numerous mons that the had a much closer bond with than he ever did with Charizard. Infernape for example was essentially the same story as Charizard but much more fleshed out and a central plot of the Sinnoh Arc.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u Maybe following the anime makes you feel it some other way by knowing deeper stories and characters but for me who dropped the series early on, while I was still a kid, Charizard was the Pokémon I always wanted to have as a partner, the favourite one from the first gen games so for me the nostalgia is a huge factor in this 🥰
i love Charizard so much❤ its a shame he became a brat lol 😂 i nearly cried in the reboot movie i choose you, when he runs back to his primary trainer and the guy kicks him off his leg into the dirt and then Ash saves him 🙏 the look of realization on Charizards face made me tear up😢🥲
Ash didn’t betray Charizard it cared for it and had to say his goodbyes so he could train in Charisific Valley. If anything Ash was an infinitely awesome trainer to him. Unless you’re talking about his Previous owner Damian then yea he was betrayed. I’m referring to the thumbnail btw.
Yeah of course I was talking about Damian in the video I make it clear ash cares for him
I love Charizard's story so much. In my opinion, out of all the members in Ash's team. he has the most interesting development and background story. Charizard shows human nature so well. He was betrayed by his former trainer and developed a deep distrust of humans. It took a lot to gain his trust again, even though Ash showed him a lot of affection.
You said it so well: Charizard wants to be the best and doesn't follow Ash's orders because he's afraid to be left behind again. But I'm so happy that he is fine and happy now because he learns to trust and be friends with Ash and the others 🥰
Dude nice vid.. just walked me down memory lane then updated me on how it ended. Thanks pal
Anytime man thanks for watching!
Ash and Charizard were legit brothers. Coming to each other rescue in times of need.
How you left out charizard saving ash and Pikachu in Pokémon the movie is wild.
pretty sure he included the movie check again
@@radgamez738 he added 3 seconds of the clip without even saying he saw ash on tv at the valley and showed up to save him and fight entei
He never mentions when he flys across the world pretty much to save Pikachu an ash in the movie an he never says anything about that this peris right you may need to watch the video again
Many things were left out and I don't even watch the anime lol Charizard made several come backs
Movies don’t count
i think charmander always had doubts ever since he was abandoned, which was triggered after it evolved into Charmeleon and then, as egotistical Charizard. After it got hit by Poliwrath's Ice Beam attack and Ash worked really hard to revive it, it realized Ash genuinely cared about him and became 100% obedient and understood Ash was not abandoning it when he left it at the Valley. at it came back even stronger than before
Ash never got 2 gym badges legitimately (Brock and Misty) and they were given to him out sheer pity due to how poor he was at battling. It's no wonder Charizard never listened to him.
Still loved when ash’s charizard beat iris’ dragonite . There are different levels to this thing we call pokemon 😂
Charizard threw hands with Drake's Dragonite as well. He lost obviously lost but weakened it enough for Pikachu to finish him off. One of the few times I enjoyed Pikachu getting the final KO.
Yessir 😂
To be fair to Charmeleon though he probably felt excited to have evolved and tells him to throw a fight.
Yup. It likely would have turned out different if the first thing Ash sent him out on wasn't to throw a fight against the weakest pokemon ever. Though, likely better for Charizard in the long run.
It says in the Pokédex that if charmeleon gets choosing to fight someone it sticks what it wants ash wanted charmeleon’s task ruined
If i was ash after he got eliminated from the league, I would've made sure charazard hered my comments.
"Damian was right!"
"I should have left you on that rock!"
"You're so weak. I didn't even want to use you!"
I hope you don’t get burned by him but at long as you have ash treatment you’ll be fine😉
If Brock would have kept Charmander i feel like he wouldn't have been a moody teenager.
He would have been a horny one lol
I'll have to agree there. The Charmander was in need of a father figure, while Ash worked more as a brother figure.
Oooh Misty’s gotta be a sister😂
Please keep going with this level of introspection man. You have a real gift for bringing this stuff together and to life. Keep going despite any adversity you might have on the personal. You have a new subscriber in me
Bro, charizard was technically a traded pokemon, that's why he never listened to ash, he was over leveled so by game logic charizard would ignore him
2:37 This shit caught me off guard. They turned Pokemon into so many memes. I was laughing my ass off bruH
Charizard should have been made into steaks after that disrespect at the Indigo League.
Oh heeeell no
This lizard would been off my team lol 😂.
At the end the onions were kicking in.... 🤧
After binge watching your video its safe to say your one of the best youtuber i know
I can't stop laughing at 2:42 for some reason when you said he started "gaslighting charmander" 😭. Video was amazing man love it.
LETS GO CHARIZARD! . . .
CHARIZARD:...FUCCKKKK THHHIIIIISSSSSHIHHHHIIITT.!!! 🐉
6:27 I think it’s interesting you show some Charmeleon scenes from movie that recreates a new journey for Ash… As in that one of the major and a surprise difference in it is, his Charmander in it, even after evolution still obeys him… Unlike the show..
Charizard beating Articuno was pretty epic, Also i could believe back in the day how he got beat by a Blaziken in the Johto league.
Im not crying through multiple key points in my chilhood through out this video. Just got something in my eye is all
Story was done well. Charizard deserve this level of story.😊🔥
This episode used to annoy me as a child. Literally no kid wanted to see Charizard behaving this way 😭
Charizard is me fr!
Fighting low elo and gets demolished by better elo
100% me to😂
Stop saying such relatable things I feel while gaming. You burnt s sore spot.
Whats funny is when i was like 8 or 10 forgot my age but i remembered this episode and never abandoned pokemon in my red and blue version after this lol.
Congratulations on 18k subscribers🎉🎉🎉
Thank you man!!!!
You just compared Charizard to luka. Bro your such a legend ☠️
The badge theory falls apart when it still didn't listen during the tournament.
Ash's Charizard's signature 7:39 move, a [Fighting] type move. Seismic Toss.
OMG.. this filled in a lot of gaps for me.. I never seen the Indigo Battle ending to this day (because I was shipped off,) and to see the rest of his story made me cry.. thank you for your service. ❤️❤️❤️
Is what I recently thought about when Charmeleon evolved into Charizard is the fact that he didn’t evolve because he had just finally reached the level of strength that he would automatically evolve. He evolved out of sheer will. He evolved just because he felt like it. And he hadn’t battled much as charmeleon. He was very lazy in fact. But then all of a sudden he just reached his final evolution because he simply could. That tells me that he must have been incredibly strong as Charmander basically already so strong to become a Charizard before he even was a Charmeleon.
Why is this called "The Complete Story of Charizard" if it cuts anything after Charicific Valley? There are numerous appearances that are more than just "cameos" in Johto alone. The Battle Frontier he battles a legendary or two. In Unova he gets added back to Ash's team for a series. At the very least, don't say they're just "cameos" when you know that's not true.
Much like Pikachu, Charizard should have accompanied ASH in every season. Charizard is my favourite Pokémon
I just realized Damian is just an early and unimportant Paul
Ash abandoned his charizard because the show believed the Pokemon had ran its course, and wanted to make room for new ones in the story.
14:32 I actually clicked the vid to hear all about the cameos which I know little about, cuz I already know Charizard's origin story, having been born in the 1990s. Disappointed
Now people that asking " HOW CHARIZARD CAN BE YOUR BEST POKEMON"
Look at this story, go watch the anime, if you have an heart like ash u're loving Charmander story.
That's why is my favourite, he do all the journey until the start of the anime
Getting some of those NBA references in. I see you my G, I love it. :D
My best childhood Pokemon. Love the fight with magmar. The way he made the comeback
……… am I the only one who thinks letting Charizard join a cult wasn’t a good idea???
Talk about a literal dragon dance.
I think Ash being eliminated from the Indigo League was fitting for where he was at. He is a trainer that got lucky his whole way there, most of his badges were given to him, he happened to catch a lot of strong Pokemon despite not using them much like Muk and Kingler, and he happened upon a very strong charmander. He was very inexperienced at this point, he should have been weeded out long before that point. Charizard deciding to take a nap and costing him the match was a fitting end for his league run
when I first played Pokemon Blue edition around the time when Pokemon Season 1 would air in Germany on TV I started with Charmander too. I remember I had problems beating Misty for the second Arena medal so I trained a lot but then Charmeleon had a too high level for me so it would just do what it wanted instead of listening, too :D
My inner childhood thanks you! 🙌🏿
team rocket has a heart afterall
Would've been badass to see Charizard come back and fight a legendary pokemon.
TBH Ash was a bad trainer. He released important members of his team (Butterfree, Charizard etc.) during course of the series.
Yup! People always forget about Primeape and Haunter
I stopped watching pokemon for a min and never really finished season 1 so seeing this video made me want to go back and finish it! 13:55 I almost teared a bit from this 😅
Yeah that pissed me off watching Ash lose that way all that build up then Charizard fucked it up
You'd be surprised to know how many people actually don't see anything bad in abandoning their dog for being "weak" or even just because...
And that's why every charizard card is expensive ❤
You should've shown the fight w Articuno at the end but this was amazing. Love your videos
This would make sense if it was actually like the games. Think about your assumption. Charmeleon started disobeying Ash because of the badge count, right? Well tell me, why did Charizard continue to disobey Ash in the pokemon league? Everyone knows you have to have all eight to compete there. Charizard was simply on a power trip. That's all. He was similar to how females act. You meet a chick who has nothing, with potential. She's "loyal" in the beginning. But as soon as she starts leveling up, they switch up. Each time they level up, they feel they are to good, for the one who built them up. She leaves you. The world and new guys humble her and she can't admit she was wrong. When you start to buil her up again, she realizes, she mest up. Charizard thought he was tough shit and was humbled by Poliwrath. Ash showed he was loyal and Charizard realized he screwed up and changed.
Prolly cause as has been proven. Ash is an incompetent trainer.
@@JockcoZ how
Wow, that’s pretty misogynistic
@@ronnyrakete4279 Ash is a woman?
The crazy thing that always annoyed me was that behind Pikachu, Charizard was the Pokémon Ash most cared about. I understand why they would have it be so defiant, but it took WAY too long before it became obedient.
Has anyone noticed the Pokèball mistake? (5:52)
Ye
Yup. Ash is an interdimensional being confirmed
Yea
Great job here! Would have been nice if you mentioned the episode Pallet Town Panic. Where Charizard still disobedient but takes out team rocket with bombs and saves pikachu
Video titled "Complete Story of Ash's Charizard" yet shows Red's Charmander and Alan's Charizard in the thumbnail.
.....okay?
I love how Pikachu was like "Yeah, get that bum ex trainer of yours, Charmander! Here, let me help."
You left out so much 😂 what about Charizard in Black & White?
I remember getting a called a nerd by my family for watching Pokémon. I was 10 toes down bout this! 2024 here I am revisiting childhood memories 😂
The disobedience thing is dumb. That is an in game mechanic to prevent a starting game from using a Lv.100. This does not translate to the anime Pokémon world.
i agree including games mechanics is stupid, makes you wonder if it didnt want to evolve and what created the issue was ash not stopping it