Not yet. But I’ll tell ya … as the days, weeks and years roll… and the aches mount up… and when I see average guys becoming elite… On some days the temptation is real.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
Earlier this year I started my dumbell arm curl journey to 30kg for a 1rm. I began at 22.5kg and have got to 27.5kgs now but not with form like that, I'm having to climb underneath but, each month the big dumbells are getting easier. I reckon I could do a 22.5kg with your form in this vid now but your one looked more like a 40kg than a 20kg!! I'll post a short video in the next few days for reference. Thanks again mate.
Yeah, the dragging I saw a lot, also Larry did it.That being said, the strictest, most difficult and true variation is culring while standing (because sitting and resting your elbow on your thing helps in the movement) and following an exact straight path and not diagonally that makes the lift a little easier in comparison.
I dunno I do a lot of curling… and the bottom end can help get through that sticking spot in the middle if you start fast. This starts lower than 90 degrees given the slight decline angle in bench and you start in the hardest range and have to power through. It is a straight path… considering the weight on one side. I feel for bicep strain and strength… from my time spent… this is harder if done the way i do it…ie… not rocking forward, not popping your knee to start. Starting from dead flat not tough and go from eccentric
This is essentially a table curl which is being shitted on by the entire community 🙂 Biggest downside here is that the max tension takes place in the losing (or rather, lost) position. In my opinion, a slightly better variation would be starting the movement eccentrically - it could at least imitate some aspects of a fight on the table. But that too, puts stress on the forearm in a weird and unsafe way (unless you lean forward and keep the angle somewhat closed). I think, the most effective and consistent way to train the bicep is using cables. It is super versatile too, as it enables a lot of options/variations. It is also probably one of the safest ways to train (being second to rubber bands?).
No, table curl supports elbow and angle of humerus is different. I said it’s a bicep strengthener not an armwrestling mimic. Plus I think 90 degrees is where the arm falls for the most part in a match… which is where most tension is in this move. If the humerus were moved forward like onto a pad the forearm would be in a good position. I don’t believe in “losing position”… there is either win or lose… everything in between is the match. Training good defense can be as effective as a devastating offense… Neglecting one or the other is like only punching and not worrying about getting hit.
Your points are very valid. I do some odd stuff based on what I feel. I have crossed over to mostly cables and springs/bands… Like the way it feels across the whole chain as well with some minor angle changes
excellent just add 10degrees pronation then suppination before eccentric release then you dont get caught off guard if they try and open you up. THE best AW can hold you any position up to one in off the pad forever then you burn out and they switch into press for the finish classical AW 101. GREAT WORK ROB thank you
hey Rob, I haven't been paying attention to US arm wrestling for a while, but I see a lot of new names now. just wondering why you think there is no league like WAL or UAL in the States anymore...
In regards arm wrestling & big "bicep curls" (obviously cheat curls) I think that it's not about the concentric portion. It's about being able to hold it and not open up - the eccentric portion. Devon's hook training follows the same principle. I do think that isometric & static holds are probably better for this purpose but they they are not "sexy" lifts
Devon hook training is not on his bicep… hardly at all. Even Todd hutchings says biceps are not that important, yet when put on his bicep he gets opened up or injured … by similar level guy
90. I usually do either my 105 for reps, but honestly I feel off… maybe it’s the fact I pulled wed and need to recoup… maybe it’s the Covid … maybe both… But I’m off a bit
Do you have any stories of Al Turner?... He used to table curl regularly with a 200lbs+ dumbbell and without the dumb f#ck form guys like Voevoda used. I own a rare book Al authored, very detailed for 1980s.
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Keep up the good fight, brother! Appreciated your boat story
Rob you are looking huge bro I hope you are coming back in top form! USA all American power baby 🇺🇸
Trying buddy
I love those curls. Best wishes, Rob!
WE ON THE GEAR OR WHAT?! les do a cycle! i don't think the world could handle a juiced up rvj!
Not yet. But I’ll tell ya … as the days, weeks and years roll… and the aches mount up… and when I see average guys becoming elite…
On some days the temptation is real.
Your're right Rob, dumbbells are the best excellent for arm wrestling / biceps / strength!
Geese you’re OBSESSED with me 🙄…
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😂 Don't worry those were athleanX weights, that was really only 20lbs.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
^^^ I like this shit
2 bottles of grey goose, that's geese
Love ur vids rob!
“You don’t even need the Hatebreed.” Well, satisfaction IS the death of desire.
I mean on certain lyrics when that fucking guy starts screaming… I gain 30%
Earlier this year I started my dumbell arm curl journey to 30kg for a 1rm. I began at 22.5kg and have got to 27.5kgs now but not with form like that, I'm having to climb underneath but, each month the big dumbells are getting easier. I reckon I could do a 22.5kg with your form in this vid now but your one looked more like a 40kg than a 20kg!!
I'll post a short video in the next few days for reference. Thanks again mate.
I do 55 when fresh
That's some arm wrestling knowledge.
Love your channel man.
@@Dmgolfer22 Appreciate your awesome words.
Yes, facts. I’ve been ALWAYS saying this
I do these type of curls as well, be having the whole gym looking at me.
Fuck em… they can’t understand strength… they put on axe to go to the gym… hr can’t understand my language
@@RobVigeantRVJ BWAAHAAHAAA!! Right!
Yeah, the dragging I saw a lot, also Larry did it.That being said, the strictest, most difficult and true variation is culring while standing (because sitting and resting your elbow on your thing helps in the movement) and following an exact straight path and not diagonally that makes the lift a little easier in comparison.
I dunno I do a lot of curling… and the bottom end can help get through that sticking spot in the middle if you start fast.
This starts lower than 90 degrees given the slight decline angle in bench and you start in the hardest range and have to power through.
It is a straight path… considering the weight on one side.
I feel for bicep strain and strength… from my time spent… this is harder if done the way i do it…ie… not rocking forward, not popping your knee to start.
Starting from dead flat not tough and go from eccentric
very strong
That’s impressive bro. Looked like 90lb db 💪🏻
I do that to is a great exercise 💪
Impressive..
This is essentially a table curl which is being shitted on by the entire community 🙂 Biggest downside here is that the max tension takes place in the losing (or rather, lost) position. In my opinion, a slightly better variation would be starting the movement eccentrically - it could at least imitate some aspects of a fight on the table. But that too, puts stress on the forearm in a weird and unsafe way (unless you lean forward and keep the angle somewhat closed). I think, the most effective and consistent way to train the bicep is using cables. It is super versatile too, as it enables a lot of options/variations. It is also probably one of the safest ways to train (being second to rubber bands?).
No, table curl supports elbow and angle of humerus is different.
I said it’s a bicep strengthener not an armwrestling mimic.
Plus I think 90 degrees is where the arm falls for the most part in a match… which is where most tension is in this move.
If the humerus were moved forward like onto a pad the forearm would be in a good position.
I don’t believe in “losing position”… there is either win or lose… everything in between is the match.
Training good defense can be as effective as a devastating offense…
Neglecting one or the other is like only punching and not worrying about getting hit.
Because the entire community shots on something doesn’t automatically mean it’s correct… it’s possible the masses are wrong.
@@RobVigeantRVJ got your point. Something to think about 👍 Thanks
Your points are very valid.
I do some odd stuff based on what I feel.
I have crossed over to mostly cables and springs/bands…
Like the way it feels across the whole chain as well with some minor angle changes
Notice u keep wrist straight curling. Strong
Good eye, thank you
Good eye, thank you
Hatebreed drop? Nice.
I will be heard !!!
Rob can you please do a strict curl challenge video
Karen’s would start to cry
excellent just add 10degrees pronation then suppination before eccentric release then you dont get caught off guard if they try and open you up. THE best AW can hold you any position up to one in off the pad forever then you burn out and they switch into press for the finish classical AW 101. GREAT WORK ROB thank you
👊🏻👍🏻👍🏻thanks
No momentum robbing (no pun) the target muscle.
Good evening my friend
Form is so strict it reminds me of Ryan Bowen.
Nah… Bowen is goat
@@RobVigeantRVJeven rvj knows bowen is goat
Yeah, that’s why I run as fast as I can when he is mentioned… dudes on a mission… I don’t want that smoke
@@RobVigeantRVJpff! 😂
Damnnnn you're almost as big as Dave Shay now
Eh… someday buddy… someday
Notice how all the form police have the smallest arms 😂
I’m not really calling out form, just recognizing the difference in strength vs power up moves
hey Rob, I haven't been paying attention to US arm wrestling for a while, but I see a lot of new names now. just wondering why you think there is no league like WAL or UAL in the States anymore...
Covid and money
European ArmWrestling has risen and American ArmWrestling has plummeted. KoTT/EvW are more Europe oriented, theres no big American promotions left.
In regards arm wrestling & big "bicep curls" (obviously cheat curls) I think that it's not about the concentric portion.
It's about being able to hold it and not open up - the eccentric portion.
Devon's hook training follows the same principle.
I do think that isometric & static holds are probably better for this purpose but they they are not "sexy" lifts
Devon hook training is not on his bicep… hardly at all.
Even Todd hutchings says biceps are not that important, yet when put on his bicep he gets opened up or injured … by similar level guy
Biceps has a place
How much does the dumbell weigh?
90.
I usually do either my 105 for reps, but honestly I feel off… maybe it’s the fact I pulled wed and need to recoup… maybe it’s the Covid … maybe both…
But I’m off a bit
You aren't out gunning rob. Stop playing
Prolly get sued by Metallica now.
That’d be awesome really…
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Do you have any stories of Al Turner?... He used to table curl regularly with a 200lbs+ dumbbell and without the dumb f#ck form guys like Voevoda used. I own a rare book Al authored, very detailed for 1980s.
Yeah I have a good one.
I’ll make a video later
@@RobVigeantRVJThanks man... He was a real Pullers puller..... Him and Gentleman Johnny Walker were tougher than nails.
uhm.. you are wrong. al turners form was horrendous. worse than voevoda for sure.
These kind of reps took my lil 12" biceps to 15" in under a year ♥️💪🦊🎱
is that 90 pounds? jesus
Yeah… trying , but tough week
RUclips algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... loser has to drink a Bud Light!
Or 20
@@RobVigeantRVJ ya, 1 is nothing!
I imagine you've seen Brandon's advice regarding PEDs as well? Not a level playing field.
Yeah buddy… I have my thoughts and missions… but I’m competent and willing.
Forward motion