2024 Mazda6 Atenza v Skoda Octavia RS Comparison | This one is for the anti-SUV crowd

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024

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  • @Goatman-wl5nk
    @Goatman-wl5nk Месяц назад +16

    Long live sports wagons!! Sooooo much better than bloated SUVs. Great review 👍👍

  • @rhysrhysrhys
    @rhysrhysrhys Месяц назад +41

    Mazda 6 wagon is one of the best looking cars on the road.

    • @acepatricklu
      @acepatricklu Месяц назад +1

      I drive one of them and I totally agree with you :)

    • @chawalitD
      @chawalitD 14 дней назад

      I wish they had an AWD option. But yes agree

  • @nearlyatrainspotter2102
    @nearlyatrainspotter2102 Месяц назад +2

    I have the Skoda Octavia 2 litre special edition. Brilliant car. Great drive. I have a bloated MG HS as my second car. I can see the appeal of both body types, but driving engagement is the wagon every time.

  • @ml4018
    @ml4018 Месяц назад +8

    I had a 2016 Octavia Scout 135TDI Premium that I replaced last year with a Mazda6 20th Anniversary sedan. The Mazda had a list price of $52,990 plus on roads which I purchased $4K less than the list price including as driveaway. So shop around, in saying that we purchased the Skoda with some haggling and also got a $4K discount at the time.
    Skoda was expensive to service with a stealership but significantly cheaper (hhhmmm capped price servicing) with an aftermarket specialist with better service.
    Mazda servicing for the turbo is 10,000's as per the Mazda service schedule. So far though this has been cheaper at the dealership level than Skoda.
    Clocked 100,000K's on the Skoda and on the open road would average high 5's to mid 6's per 100k's and when time tested would punch the 0-100kph at roughly 7.2secs. The Scout had a very mild jacked up ride height but was an acclomplished handler especially with some quality rubber - Potenza RE03.
    The comment as to noise on the Skoda, took me by suprise as it wasn't what I would call noisy for a wagon. The Mazda6 sedan is what I considered to be noisy, especially for a sedan, but this is mostly due to the factory fitted tyres which generate a lot of road noise.
    As to the Mazda6, the turbo makes me cackle with laughter everytime I come out of a tight corner and give it some welly and the torque steer and axle tramp kicks in (if it's a rough road) as it tries punching 420+ newtons (I run 98 octane fuel) through those front wheels.
    I know it's a sedan vs wagon but the drivetrain is the same and they are a hoot for a family sleeper car. The alcantara on the dash hasn't marked up on ours and we don't have any issues with the quality either so maybe it has had a hard life as a press car.
    The Skoda infotainment killed the Mazda6 hands down for modern applications and visual appeal but the rotary dial is quite effective and easy to use with, as you suggested, a small amount of familiarisation.
    Why did I change cars?
    There was no issues with the Skoda until it had the 75,000k service and then started using approximately 1 litre of oil every 5,000k to which VAG said that's normal, fair oil usage....I call bull on that for a car that's driven fairly gently with mostly highway usage. Also I just never liked the DSG gearbox when in town with low speed jerkiness and when going into reverse failing to engage without above normal revs to stop it rolling forward before lurching backwards because of the extra revs. On the open road and overtaking the DSG is super fast and excellent.
    Perceived and possibly real world build quality is in the Mazda's favour from my experience and when you do your research it's more likely to favour the Mazda.
    Either way I don't think you'd be disappointed with either of these cars and think the Mazda is more GT orientated than sporty pretensions of the Skoda.

    • @RodneyW
      @RodneyW Месяц назад

      Thanks for sharing your experience - that's a helpful comment. Reliability and longevity matter from an ownership perspective - but less so from a "review" perspective. In a recent Consumer Reports survey on reliability, Mazda was ranked 7th, and Volkswagen was 27th. You made the right call to changeover once the oil consumption picked up!

    • @alanclarkeau
      @alanclarkeau Месяц назад

      With DSG - the lesser Skoda Octavia models have a proper Auto transmission.

  • @mvnorsel6354
    @mvnorsel6354 Месяц назад +10

    A great review of cars seldom seen.

  • @TheNotedHero
    @TheNotedHero Месяц назад +5

    Your capped price servicing for the Octavia has an error - that $2750 is for 7 years, not 5. Also, wagons are superior to SUVS except for ease of getting in and out of them and for loading kids into booster seats. Everything else though, wagons win, imo.

  • @WorksOnMyComputer
    @WorksOnMyComputer Месяц назад +2

    The Mazda 6 also has a cargo net that is built in, which was missed in the review. The Atenza spec Mazda 6 also has a 360 view camera. Not a particuarly great one, but its there.

    • @paulmcgregor6411
      @paulmcgregor6411 Месяц назад

      Which was shown in the video when showing off the reversing camera, but was overlooked later on.

  • @abshassan
    @abshassan Месяц назад +6

    I have the Mazda 6 Atenza, i purchased a 2022 dealer demo with 6000km on the clock and got it for $43k drive away which i thought was a bargain. Absolute great car, smooth, refine and just comfy. But yeah its showing its age and the infotainment system is pretty ordinary. The Atenza has 360 degree camera however the resolution and the screen size makes it pretty useless. But i'd love to try out the Skoda Octavia, looks like a fun car, maybe next time :)

    • @braydonwen3852
      @braydonwen3852 Месяц назад +2

      How is the fuel economy?

    • @abshassan
      @abshassan 14 дней назад

      @@braydonwen3852 it hovers in the late 9s L (per 100km), i drive 70km a day mostly city and some motorway.
      I got it down to 6ish Litres per 100 when doing long distance highway, but everyday is 9.9/100.

  • @acepatricklu
    @acepatricklu Месяц назад +3

    It is some sort of mismatch though, as Mazda 6 is a D-Segment (or VW Group B) car. Although Mazda 6 has always had tighter legrooms than most competitors, it should be competing against other D-segment or B-platform (and more expensive) cars like Passat/Arteon or Superb, while Octavia/Golf is one segment smaller.

  • @c_woelfl
    @c_woelfl Месяц назад +1

    Just wanted to add that factors in reviews such as 'cost of ownership' whilst somewhat useful do not take into consideration things like for example when a manufacturer changes to a cheaper [to manufacture] engine component such as a plastic water pump that will fail in 40-50 000km and that cost will be buried in a (usually) factored in service at a dealer under a service plan. That singular part alone I've had quoted at $450 AUD, not fitted either. And then replacement again at 100 000km. I know that it's a 'known' thing with the EA888 engine, but that doesn't make it better.
    As a recent owner of the Octavia RS one could argue that I should have done my research better. But when there are so few choices of the wagon shape available you end up making a compromise where you didn't think there was one to begin with.
    I should also add: rubber band tyres in the Sydney Metro area - highly not advised. 8000km on the odo and already replaced one tyre from hitting a pothole and a puncture now needing another replacement tyre. My car came fitted with Goodyear's. No one has any stock of Goodyear anymore due to poor work of the distributor. There will be mismatched tyres.
    PS I do the Princes' highway five days a week all the way to Balmain.

  • @thedon7530
    @thedon7530 Месяц назад +6

    I’ve had a Mazda 6 GT for 13k km now. Not perfect but overall great car. Average fuel consumption so far is 8.2L per 100km. So, pretty good really.

    • @anthonyfarnan5935
      @anthonyfarnan5935 Месяц назад

      My VAG diesel wagon does 2L less per 100km

    • @thedon7530
      @thedon7530 Месяц назад

      @@anthonyfarnan5935 so, how many years of driving will you need to do to redeem the $$ extra VAG purchase cost?

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer Месяц назад +1

      @@anthonyfarnan5935 Its a diesel, it should do better.

    • @alanclarkeau
      @alanclarkeau Месяц назад

      @@anthonyfarnan5935 except they cancelled them.

  • @PaulHojda
    @PaulHojda Месяц назад +1

    The Mazda 6 may be 12 years old but it's as good looking as ever. You cant beat a clean design the will age so well. Shame the 6 is being discontinued in most of the world without a propper successor.

  • @A861967
    @A861967 Месяц назад +4

    You should also include the WRX sports wagon ❤

    • @c_woelfl
      @c_woelfl Месяц назад +1

      That was literally the other car I was looking at before buying the Octavia rs

    • @A861967
      @A861967 Месяц назад

      @@c_woelfl that’s the one I got 🙂

  • @TheNotedHero
    @TheNotedHero Месяц назад +1

    Not sure why you're comparing the Mazda to the Octavia RS. Surely the Style or Sportline versions of the Octavia would've been a better choice? You say the RS is noisy but does that noise problem carry over to the other versions I wonder?

  • @josephpereira1390
    @josephpereira1390 17 дней назад

    You didnt mention that the Mazda 6 is one of the best looking cars around! One other point, Mazda 6 adds 14kw more power if you use premium unleaded (power to 184kw). I bought a Mazda 6 wagon GT SP for 26k with 80k on the odometer. Amazing value! Still, Im keen to see what the new 6 will be like - heard its RWD.

  • @gordonclark7632
    @gordonclark7632 Месяц назад

    I have a current gen Mazda 3 and like it very much however as per the 6, the screen is annoying. The problem with the 6 is that it is really getting on and needs a real update to keep it relevant with better tech and user friendliness.

  • @devilsadvocate2548
    @devilsadvocate2548 Месяц назад +2

    When did they take the 360 degree camera out of the Mazda6? We have a 2018 Atenza Wagon and it has a 360 degree camera.

    • @Bear-wj1mc
      @Bear-wj1mc Месяц назад +3

      The Atenza and 20th Anniversary models definitely have a 360 degree camera the reviewer made a mistake !

    • @RodneyW
      @RodneyW Месяц назад +2

      @@Bear-wj1mc It was an error. He shows the 360 view at 3:27, while complaining about its small size.

    • @nuffytreez-ez1lx
      @nuffytreez-ez1lx Месяц назад +1

      Mazda haven't removed the 360 camera. I have noticed several errors in this video.

  • @Gdsamplify
    @Gdsamplify Месяц назад +4

    Great review, excellent presenter

  • @therealjeffg
    @therealjeffg Месяц назад

    Great comparison test and thanks for the all the on screen comparison stats

  • @wax333
    @wax333 Месяц назад

    i beg a re test with the inclusion of the subaru wrx wagon or the subaru outback xt

  • @Barry50100
    @Barry50100 Месяц назад

    Give me my Mazda 6 GTSP Turbo wagon over an SUV any day. drives like a sports car but practical and ver comfortable. I truly love mine

  • @mattrawling6646
    @mattrawling6646 Месяц назад +1

    wonderful review. Mazda 6 Wagon looks fantastic

  • @moe_1886
    @moe_1886 Месяц назад

    Great review... if I could, I'd have both! 🤣 I have a 2010 Mazda 6 wagon and it has been an absolute trooper as a daily driver, school runs, doggo taxi and road trips! So quiet, even on bumpy country roads and it's very comfortable, with it's only flaw being how thirsty it is! I also have a 2013 Skoda Fabia 132 RS and it's a blast to drive on windy roads... but like the Octavia, it's so loud inside the cabin and the suspension is very stiff! In the end, if I could only choose between the Mazda 6 Atenza or Skoda Octavia RS, then I'd probably go the Mazda... just!

    • @paulmcgregor6411
      @paulmcgregor6411 Месяц назад

      I had a GH 2012 Mazda 6 wagon diesel up until last year. Loved it to bits and was a great car. I could still get 5L per 100km after 10 years and was a delight to drive. Traded it in for a CX-8, as the kids needed the extra space in the back and the extra seats are handy.

  • @lukalevstek7851
    @lukalevstek7851 Месяц назад +2

    Lucky you, Mazda 6 is no longer sold in Europe only second hand.

    • @peterzemkooo1736
      @peterzemkooo1736 Месяц назад

      Not true. You can still by new 6 in my country.

    • @lukalevstek7851
      @lukalevstek7851 Месяц назад

      In Slovenia it's not available anymore.

  • @brendanoriordan549
    @brendanoriordan549 Месяц назад

    Can i ask why the subaru WRX wagon wasnt in the test?
    Im guessing you didnt want to upset the VAG Boys.

  • @robertpawley5715
    @robertpawley5715 Месяц назад +1

    Be good to modernise Mazda 6 and put new 6 cylinder in line diesel. That would be a winner.

  • @electricdiesel1993
    @electricdiesel1993 Месяц назад +1

    Mazda 6 Atenza and Skoda Octavia RS needs AWD as turbo sportwagons instead of tedious FWD; Mazda 6 should become a Vision Coupe as MX6 with rotary rather than a doomed proposed RWD Mazda 6 with diesel and gas-guzzling turbo 3.3 L6 only for Mazda CX-60 & CX-90 4WD Sport Utility Vehicle.

  • @kinarrakid5036
    @kinarrakid5036 Месяц назад

    How do the Mazda 6 wagon major servicing costs compare to the Skoda Octavia RS?

    • @carsales
      @carsales  Месяц назад

      You'll find that information in the video

  • @beltwayroad
    @beltwayroad Месяц назад

    STATION Wagons are torquey and economical like a diesel padded in leather. $40k for one lightly used or abused German model would compare well I would think in 2024.

  • @scottedwards948
    @scottedwards948 Месяц назад +4

    Add 98ron fuel to the Mazda and it has more kw 😊, also the Mazda Japanese build quality trumps . Unfortunately it is older now and no new model on the horizon so they won’t do much more to the current model.

    • @rickb314
      @rickb314 Месяц назад +1

      Build quality of modern Skoda's is excellent and has been for many years. They're very well screwed together.

    • @scottedwards948
      @scottedwards948 Месяц назад +1

      @@rickb314 yeh VW owns Skoda now , mainly built using VW parts in India , Russia , China and Slovakia . Yes better but I prefer the Japanese build quality. Have owned a couple Audis also being S3 etc which while good , we wont purchase their products in the future 👍.

  • @kennylee1862
    @kennylee1862 Месяц назад

    Wagons are the best. More versatile and handles well. I drive a Mazda 6 Wagon.

  • @APlusBOP
    @APlusBOP Месяц назад +2

    Mazda is more reliable keeps it value longer and better badge

    • @REPOMAN24722
      @REPOMAN24722 Месяц назад +2

      That's why they dont sell in Europe because they break down all the time, Mazda can't get rid of them with a 10 year warranty in EU.

    • @kotfast
      @kotfast Месяц назад +1

      ​@@REPOMAN24722 you're probably talking about one engine in particular (2.2 diesel). The petrol engies are very reliable

    • @REPOMAN24722
      @REPOMAN24722 Месяц назад

      @@kotfast The bodies rust real quick, faster than other Japanese cars. And their 2.0 skyactive engines break too over there.

    • @kotfast
      @kotfast Месяц назад

      @@REPOMAN24722 don't know where you have this information, but I'm on a lot of Fb Mazda groups and all i see is 2.2 skyactiveD engines. I have a 5y old 2.5NA and no issues whatsoever. No rust, no engine issues. The only thing that was replaced were the mirror folding motors (common Mazda issue). When i was at the dealer doing refular maintenance, I've heard that there was a recall for fuel pump replacement for some petrol engines, but that's a great thing from my point of view (mine wasn't on the list)

    • @REPOMAN24722
      @REPOMAN24722 Месяц назад +1

      @@kotfast They have oil pressure issues especially in the cold and they burn allot of oil, haven't seen a Mazda on the road in central Europe in about 3 years, a few older models that were reliable but the body was in bad shape. Allot of bottom end knocking due to loss of oil pressure to cylinder 3 and 4 , that's what my mechanic gets a lot of.

  • @robertpawley5715
    @robertpawley5715 Месяц назад +4

    So no spare tyre makes the Skǒda useless for country driving

    • @alanclarkeau
      @alanclarkeau Месяц назад +5

      @@robertpawley5715 I think they got that wrong - by not saying that it's got one, but pointing out that Mazda does. SKODA website & brochure say it's got a pretend spare like Mazda.

    • @shaun1900
      @shaun1900 Месяц назад +1

      Been driving in country VIC for 20 years and never used a spare wheel.

    • @rickb314
      @rickb314 Месяц назад +1

      Not sure you'd want to take a performance wagon on low profile tyres country driving all that often!

    • @shaun1900
      @shaun1900 Месяц назад

      @@rickb314 probably the daftest thing I have ever heard.

    • @RodneyW
      @RodneyW Месяц назад

      @@shaun1900 Damn it. I've gotten all of the flat tyres you should have had.... (two in the last 12 months).

  • @williamhartman
    @williamhartman Месяц назад

    You show space saver in Mazda but keep us in the dark about the Skoda. A spare wheel is a life saver for some

    • @c_woelfl
      @c_woelfl Месяц назад

      Octavia has a space saver, mine does at least. Fun fact, in the wheel well of the spare is the subwoofer for the Canton speakers

  • @Splendid_Lad
    @Splendid_Lad Месяц назад

    Why can’t we get these wagons in the US? Bring a variety of styles to the road. All we’re left with is trucks and SUVs… even sedans are dying off in the US.

    • @rowanbyers2071
      @rowanbyers2071 Месяц назад

      This video explains why plus has a section showing why wagons are so great. ruclips.net/video/jN7mSXMruEo/видео.htmlsi=iiQChYe6N9PAUr1l

  • @conansternberg41
    @conansternberg41 Месяц назад

    I'd take the wagon over SUV any day. However, I'm old, inflexible and over 185cm. Getting in and out of these things is horrible. It's onto suv hell for me.

  • @cezaryotarzewski8772
    @cezaryotarzewski8772 Месяц назад

    One thing is missing. Skoda has much harder suspension and after one longer trip you’ll have enough.

    • @c_woelfl
      @c_woelfl Месяц назад

      I did syd/Canberra run and back same day with my Octavia rs with the suspension in the softest setting and it just wofted along. It’s noticeably softer than my BM Mazda 3 sp25

  • @alexanderchiang6801
    @alexanderchiang6801 Месяц назад

    Pretty sure mazda 6 will be discontinued. Mazda is doing EV mazda 6.... Not too sure skoda octavia rs, even no info in the official website...

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer Месяц назад

      At some point yes, the 6 is going to go. Its probably got a stay of execution for two or three more years. Its looking increasingly likely whatever does take the 6 nameplate will have little or nothing to do with what built the Mazda 6 brand name and I think thats what Mazda is struggling with. They have built a lot of capital and goodwill with the 6, but wth that there also comes expectations of what a new 6 should be and do. So far Mazda, hasn't found a good match for it in their new products. A rebadged Chinese electric car is not a good option for the 6 branding in my opinion.

  • @tonyinsydney
    @tonyinsydney Месяц назад

    subaru wrx sportswagon...

  • @pgilb70
    @pgilb70 Месяц назад

    My kids 15 year old maz 6 sedan is heaps quieter than my 2015, cx5, handles better etc.
    Just simple physics. Suvs and Utes are pretty crap in so many ways.

  • @terrydear4038
    @terrydear4038 Месяц назад

    Great but no manual option - and Skoda has the troublesome DSG.

  • @JeremyGeduldt
    @JeremyGeduldt Месяц назад

    Mazda 6 left South Africa in 2019 it should return 2025 in all new model BYD MG Skoda Tesla is all down under BYD is in South Africa Jetour should come next will BYD Shark bakkie come to SA ? on the Mazda 2 3 & 6 Mazda should return in small letters at the back like it was & still mis on advertising .

  • @Bilsoncomm
    @Bilsoncomm Месяц назад +26

    You guys are so predictable. Mazda is cheaper, more comfortable, more refined, quieter, uses 91 fuel, and you pick Skoda. For the smart buyer Skoda=VAG=No

    • @addictedtosliding
      @addictedtosliding Месяц назад +15

      Skoda is more fuel efficient, a better driver’s car, has better safety, better tech but, crucially, more space inside and out. Hence it got the nod, but the Mazda is lovely.

    • @bg851
      @bg851 Месяц назад +6

      Boring people drive boring cars! Perhaps a Camry would be a better choice of car for you?

    • @Bilsoncomm
      @Bilsoncomm Месяц назад +1

      Camry no doubt, but the waiting list is too long!

    • @lesmotley6839
      @lesmotley6839 Месяц назад +5

      Last year I picked up a mazda 6 GT sedan and can concur that it's pretty fast, very comfortable and extremely quiet. I can't understand why people buy SUVs over these mid sized sedans.

    • @thedon7530
      @thedon7530 Месяц назад +7

      @@bg851shallow people judge others by the car they drive.

  • @lucassitanggang5154
    @lucassitanggang5154 Месяц назад

    Some last letter of Škoda Name, with Q Like Elroq Kodiaq Enyaq Kamiq

  • @alanclarkeau
    @alanclarkeau Месяц назад +2

    Skoda wouldn't be the car for a decent road trip - next to no dealerships. A few years ago they had a reciprocal agreement with VW dealers, but that's gone.
    And no spare wheel - end of story.

    • @ajax240k
      @ajax240k Месяц назад +2

      Weird that the one I drove this week has a space saver spare 🤷

    • @alanclarkeau
      @alanclarkeau Месяц назад

      @@ajax240k oddly - Skoda's website says so too.

    • @alanclarkeau
      @alanclarkeau Месяц назад

      ​@@ajax240koddly - the brochure shows it's got one (only a space saver). Had another listen - the video didn't say it doesn't have one - it said that the Mazda DID have one (only a pretend one too), leaving an assumption open that the SKODA didn't.

    • @carsella11
      @carsella11 Месяц назад

      What kind of road trip are you thinking? Simpson Desert?

    • @shaun1900
      @shaun1900 Месяц назад +4

      I don’t know anybody who plans a decent road trip around where car dealerships are located. And they do have spare wheels. Numb nuts

  • @user-do2po7hd9t
    @user-do2po7hd9t Месяц назад

    Skoda wins

  • @whatthe6532
    @whatthe6532 Месяц назад

    Haha

  • @Posy13
    @Posy13 Месяц назад

    Wait so the Mazda is more comfortable more refined and cheaper and you don’t pick it even though you just said all that and that’s what people care about. And don’t discredit how sporty the Mazda is plus unlike VW/Skoda performance products of today which almost seems to easy to drive as on you press your foot on the accelerator and the classic 2.0L turbo just flies that’s not how sport cars should be. You have to think which gear to be in at what time to make the most of the great 2.5L in the Mazda and it just looks better and is way more reliable. But any wagon is better than no wagon or an suv!

  • @automtr
    @automtr Месяц назад

    I drove both and every single other wagon under $80K AUD. Because SUV = Stupid Ugly Vehicles
    IMHO the Skoda was good, but i couldn't shake the "poor man's Audi/VW' stigma, vs the "Mazda is just a Mazda" and I like to not draw attention.
    I'd summarise the 2 cars as
    - Octavia RS = stretched out hot hatch
    - Atenza wagon = Luxury Small Barge
    Zero regrets on my decision to go with the Mazda as I loved my previous MPS6

  • @InTheOuter
    @InTheOuter Месяц назад

    Mazda been sleeping for 12 years. Shame, a model change 6 years ago may have upped the interest in the 6. Now it's dead and buried. Not sure how they are even selling these anymore.

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer Месяц назад +1

      The review covered those reasons nicely. Pay attention.

  • @scottlawrie8445
    @scottlawrie8445 Месяц назад

    Surely you will review the A4 avant , BMW 330i , Genesis, Subaru WRX GT the list goes on and all better than those featured here.

    • @TheNotedHero
      @TheNotedHero Месяц назад +1

      pretty serious jump up in price for those though.

    • @WorksOnMyComputer
      @WorksOnMyComputer Месяц назад +1

      Only if you are paying the difference in price for me and everyone else are they comparable.