Brain Retraining Didn't Help Shelley: What Finally Worked!

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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

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  • @lindsayh1502
    @lindsayh1502 9 месяцев назад +98

    Brain training, nervous system work, somatic practices are all wonderful but they won’t work if you “rush” through. This is a lifestyle change. This is a new way of being. A letting go of the old self. Bringing safety to your system … daily… for the rest of your life. And why wouldn’t we want that? It’s a beautiful investment in ourselves ❤

    • @mattsetoki2304
      @mattsetoki2304 9 месяцев назад +11

      Needed to hear this today. It feels like a curse most days but the amount of personal growth and mental strength I’ve gained in such a short amount of time (1 yr and 4 months) it is an investment in yourself and the payout lasts the rest of your life. Blessed not cursed.

    • @germanside7890
      @germanside7890 9 месяцев назад +3

      You are sooooo right, I totally agree with you.

    • @finnroohomebrewing
      @finnroohomebrewing 9 месяцев назад +1

      Very well said.😎👍

    • @mrjackolanterns
      @mrjackolanterns 9 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@mattsetoki2304 25 months in and I've come to realize one irrefutable truth.... This is a spiritual rebirth. Period. I realized this after my one year mark when I didn't want to live anymore because of the suffering. This is when something started to blossom inside of me that I can't even begin to explain. You feel it. Stay the course, fellow traveler.

    • @mattsetoki2304
      @mattsetoki2304 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@mrjackolanterns I will do that! Thank you brother 🤙🏽

  • @estherzwaan9928
    @estherzwaan9928 9 месяцев назад +16

    Ha, I was given antidepressants in the beginning too, when no doctor could figure out what my problem was. I wanted to try everything, even though I felt really very sick physically, and I even agreed to see a psychologist. When that didn't work and I was found somewhere unconscious on the floor, my doctor sent me to the hospital with a letter to that specialist, in which she didn't mention any of my physical symptoms like pain, fatigue and even fever, but only 'is seeing a psychologist, is on antidepressiva'. Not surprisingly, the specialist advised me to move on to a psychiatrist instead. I ended up with no help whatsoever, house- and mostly bedbound for years, improving a little but still very limited. It has been twenty four years now, and this channel gives me so much hope that there is a future for me! Because finally, I find out there are tools to work with, so I am working on it, to put together a set that will help me to get my life back. What a day that will be...

  • @princessdee01
    @princessdee01 9 месяцев назад +71

    Brain retraining doesn’t mean it has to be a program or something fancy. Slowing down, yoga nidra and all the things she talked about ARE brain retraining. We’re brain retraining all day long. It just means where we’re putting our focus and how we approach life and becoming aware of our patterns and how what we need in the moment ❤

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 9 месяцев назад +2

      Excellent perspective!
      Some of those programs are $300++ , out of my budget!
      I have a hard time with anxiety and not panicking and going down 12 rabbit holes at once.. I haven't tried yoga nidra yet..

    • @PeaceIsJesusChrist
      @PeaceIsJesusChrist 9 месяцев назад

      @@tanyawieczorek6603
      Curable is affordable! Small monthly payment. It’s got good science behind it, and I’ve heard positive feedback! Raelan has done an episode on it as well. ❤

    • @TheHolisticPaul
      @TheHolisticPaul 9 месяцев назад

      Absolutely agree 100%. Our brain is changing everyday and we can retrain it by shifting what we focus on and engage in mood elevation in a way that resonates with us.

    • @lenaferra1923
      @lenaferra1923 9 месяцев назад

      Brain retraining is not just about meditation 🧘

    • @PrettyH1
      @PrettyH1 7 месяцев назад

      I always wondered what the difference is between brain retraining or nervous system regulation and breathing exercises pranayama meditation. I feel more stressed to do a program than just doing breathing exercises and visualization and stuff.

  • @Wds__99
    @Wds__99 9 месяцев назад +26

    Nice to see a recovery story that didn’t involve anything but time really. When people say it was only some complex brain retraining etc it puts so much pressure on people. I think most people recover with just time. But claim it was something they did when they were recovering anyway.

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 9 месяцев назад +5

      And not everyone has $600 to spend on just one of those courses..!

    • @Wds__99
      @Wds__99 9 месяцев назад

      @@tanyawieczorek6603 I know right. Don’t know why these recovered people need to make so much money off sick people.

    • @PeaceIsJesusChrist
      @PeaceIsJesusChrist 9 месяцев назад

      @@tanyawieczorek6603
      Most are $300, and Curable is small monthly payments and has good science behind it, so that may be worth trying. However, I don’t think time is the answer, as many of us have been struggling for decades. I hope everyone finds what they need. ❤

    • @patti.untouchedbytrauma
      @patti.untouchedbytrauma 9 месяцев назад +5

      I did all the courses and only somatic work and calming down centering exercises I created for myself worked for me. You don’t need a program, community or anything except peace and time.

    • @PeaceIsJesusChrist
      @PeaceIsJesusChrist 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@patti.untouchedbytrauma
      That’s so interesting that it was the somatic/bottom up approaches that worked for you, and since you’re an empath and intuitive, I bet that really helped you figure out what your body needed. That is amazing. I’m glad you’re better! 🎉

  • @albineg
    @albineg 9 месяцев назад +9

    What will work is individual and contextual.
    Many factors in play. The order of treatment (layering), who is treating, what tools are used, frequency and dosing.
    If you tried a treatment modality it may or may not work depending on when, why and how it was implemented and by whom.
    Many can say "I tried it and it didn't work", or the opposite.
    But what did they try? There are many ways of brain training for example, and brain training adress one aspect of an illness for people, shutting down the chronic fight or flight. But if the underlying triggers are still there for example a chronic infection, mold toxicity or stressful relationships as examples, brain training ofc is not going to "solve" everything.
    ME/CFS is just a label, like any other type of diagnosis it does not reflect the individual. 10 people with ME/CFS may all have separate root causes. That is why brain training work for some, and treating infections work for others, or just adressing nutrition works for some others.
    All is ok. Take care!

  • @KaliyahAnn123
    @KaliyahAnn123 9 месяцев назад +12

    Shelley. I 100% relate. Feel like we’ve walked the same path. I’m still up and down as well. I agree with accepting where you are in the moment really helps. I also find that if I can calm myself and stay calm and confident I do much better. It’s staying calm that is a challenge for me. Bless you for what you are doing!!

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 9 месяцев назад +1

      This is my problem too, not panicking and going down 15 rabbit holes at once and scaring myself that this is permanent... what are your calming techniques?

    • @carl8568
      @carl8568 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@tanyawieczorek6603
      Do you follow Mindful Gardener?

  • @marcelafenner3772
    @marcelafenner3772 9 месяцев назад +17

    Thank you so much for mentioning that the type of brain retraining you were doing was stressful.
    I tried a Brain retraining program for 1 1/2 years and every time I did the exercises I started crying and feeling worse and the brain retraining guy who had made up that program had no idea of what the problem was.
    Different methods help different people.
    Good luck on your journey ❤

    • @RaelanAgle
      @RaelanAgle  9 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks for sharing Marcela! Every experience adds so much in broadening our understanding. 💖

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 9 месяцев назад

      What was the problem?

    • @marcelafenner3772
      @marcelafenner3772 9 месяцев назад +2

      Hi Tanya
      That instead of making me feel better or working for me in a positive way, that brain retraining method was very stressful for me and made me feel worse.
      And the person that had made the program was not helpful on providing the way to do it that was appropriate for me.
      I have come a very long way with CFS and still have a way to go .
      Thank you Raelan so much for your videos.

    • @truthprevails7085
      @truthprevails7085 9 месяцев назад

      I feel you!

  • @seattledutch
    @seattledutch 9 месяцев назад +11

    It seems to be long COVID is spawning lots of health coach businesses. I suppose where medicine fails, experience-based experts step in. What I have observed is that most people seem to heal sonewhere between 12-24 months. This disease needs rest… my cardiologist couldn’t work for 2 years but fully recovered in 2 1/2. He said: rest and acceptance is the only medicine.

  • @EvinFox
    @EvinFox 9 месяцев назад +8

    Not to be hyperbolic, but I have to say this is my favorite interview so far. This woman mirrors my own experience. I’m going to check into more of the approach she is using.

  • @carolnascimento7494
    @carolnascimento7494 8 месяцев назад +5

    Slowing down is the best to begin a solid recovery path.

  • @catherinerulekowski9129
    @catherinerulekowski9129 9 месяцев назад +2

    Really helpful video. I'm mostly bedridden right now due to a heavy year, circumstantial. But I'm so sure I can get so much better. All the things I've dipped into over many many years have come to the fore and I believe in them, like yoga nidra, breathwork, all sorts of stuff. But like this lady said, it's counter productive to have a checklist or to overanalyze anything, or get frustrated. I'm meeting myself where I'm at with compassion and humour and gratitude for what I can do each day. Good luck and prayers for everyone recovering.

  • @galynagrynkiv2107
    @galynagrynkiv2107 5 месяцев назад +2

    From her description how it is started it looks like her first doctor was right, she might got TBI or concussion. It is possible to get a concussion not hitting head, like falling down when skiing, being in car accident, but not hitting her head. Girl might get concussion and then post concussion syndrome (PCS). Symptoms of PCS is very similar to CFS. Some PCS are getting CFS diagnosis eventually. Very often the best cure of PCS is time, which is not true for CFS, which in time might go in different direction. From her recovery story looks like she just recovered over time without specific treatment, which confirms that she just might got PCS in first place. Anyway, good for her!

  • @healingjourney722
    @healingjourney722 9 месяцев назад +2

    Helpful video. I have been improving with the things she mentioned helped her and I do also implement things learned from brain retraining programs but the fixing intention and urgency are counter productive, I find they’re most effective with lots of self compassion and acceptance, slowness etc. Anything that brings the nervous system to equilibrium and signals safety to the brain.

  • @crystalwebb5725
    @crystalwebb5725 8 месяцев назад +1

    Acceptance, slowing down definitely helps. Still hoping for recovery. Thank you

  • @karentweedley5478
    @karentweedley5478 9 месяцев назад +8

    I am still trying to reach my equilibrium with pacing, but I really feel like I might be turning a corner. It’s been 2.5 years and I haven’t been able to walk or talk recently.
    I already had a good diet, it’s not perfect, but I need some joy from somewhere and these are the things I have committed to do daily. I’m probs 3 weeks into that commitment.
    Infrared light therapy
    Supplement regime, newly added in NAC
    Lymphatic drainage massage
    5 mins meditation
    Have the window open for most of the day
    I’ve recently added a very simple brain training ‘thing’ after watching R’s video, whereby I centre myself for a few breaths and then visualise any pain or discomfort getting smaller/slower/ less loud.
    I’ve included physical, emotional and cognitive energy in the pacing and have found watching Murder She Wrote takes less energy than lying in bed, trying not to think.
    Hopefully some of these tips will help others x
    .

    • @RaelanAgle
      @RaelanAgle  9 месяцев назад

      So many great insights, Karen ❤️ Thanks for sharing! Love how reading 'Murder She Wrote' works for you 😂

    • @karentweedley5478
      @karentweedley5478 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@RaelanAgle😂 who knew

    • @PeaceIsJesusChrist
      @PeaceIsJesusChrist 9 месяцев назад

      @@karentweedley5478
      Aww!!! My grandmother loved watching Murder She Wrote! 🥰 I’m glad you found something that relaxes you!! That so so great! I feel that way about Star Trek TNG and Voyager, both are sooo calming and peaceful to me. Hehe!
      Just a caution with having the windows open-if it’s really hot out, and the AC is running, the hot air mixed with the cold I believe can cause mold to form-or, if it’s really humid out too. But I know what you mean-I love having mine open too!! ❤

    • @Nate-kt9rs
      @Nate-kt9rs 8 месяцев назад +1

      Hang in there. It's rough sometimes. I pray the experts find more answers and that God brings healing to those of us still suffering.

    • @PeaceIsJesusChrist
      @PeaceIsJesusChrist 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Nate-kt9rs
      Amen. 🙏🏻 I try to pray for us all most every day. There are so many people suffering. I pray you are at peace on your journey to getting well, Nate!

  • @vegamusician
    @vegamusician 9 месяцев назад +2

    Raelan thank you for your continued hope giving information and education. There is a really extreme case from another youtuber, The physics girl who is totally bed bound. I hope she can come on here and talk about her recovery down the line.

  • @bradbilskie8078
    @bradbilskie8078 6 месяцев назад +1

    I had the same things happen to me, i eventually realized it was attacking my nervous system so as soon as i started taking b12 complex, magnesium, and anything i could find to repair my nervous system i started feeling somewhat normal again

    • @Blackpool999
      @Blackpool999 5 месяцев назад

      Apart from B12 and Magnesium, could you please suggest which other supplements you took to heal the nerves/nervous system? Thx.

  • @Oldman_Gamer2
    @Oldman_Gamer2 9 месяцев назад +4

    A testosterone booster from a supplement company in Australia helped me immensely. Energy came back and brain fog gone, after like 2 days. And it doesn't seem to come back if I stop taking it. Been about 2 weeks, so don't want to get too excited, but the change was huge and fast, like nothing else I've tried.

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 9 месяцев назад

      Sounds like that supplement would be just for men... ?
      Glad its helped you..

    • @sachavanmeir1591
      @sachavanmeir1591 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@tanyawieczorek6603 women need testosterone as well.

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@sachavanmeir1591I know, but not as much as men.

    • @PeaceIsJesusChrist
      @PeaceIsJesusChrist 9 месяцев назад +1

      Diet has a huge factor on testosterone, and it’s better to control it through diet. Paul Saladino and Jay Feldman have great information on this.

    • @Oldman_Gamer2
      @Oldman_Gamer2 8 месяцев назад

      @@tanyawieczorek6603 Not really, its just things like magnesium, B6, horny goat weed etc.

  • @MyZABOZA
    @MyZABOZA 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for your testimony…

  • @davec3568
    @davec3568 9 месяцев назад +3

    Sounds similar to my issue... woke up feeling like I was run over by a truck overnight. Nervous system and gut completely messed up, tachycardia, endurance and recovery massively compromised. 6-7 months later I got diverticulitis, in hindsight it occurred soon after the covid incident. Then a few months later I got some other bug, maybe covid again, idk. Things weren't looking up to put it mildly. But ivermectin did work for me, night and day difference, it put me on the road to recovery. I'm feeling pretty good now but about 2 months ago I tore a rotator cuff and had shoulder surgery so I have no idea what my endurance and recovery after a hard effort are looking like. I also got tinnitus and am trying 3-day water fasts to help. I've only done one so far but it did have an effect on tinnitus. I will continue and do more but am skipping a month to make sure my shoulder has the best chance of recovery. Good luck!

  • @sublimestudi000
    @sublimestudi000 9 месяцев назад +1

    thank you, raelan

  • @regina6838
    @regina6838 9 месяцев назад +2

    What type of energy medicine did you try? I ask because it's so varied and it's all lumped in together as one thing.

    • @ShelleyLouiseHealWithShell
      @ShelleyLouiseHealWithShell 9 месяцев назад

      Hey, I've had reiki, polarity therapy and the plant medicine had energy healing elements.

  • @carolnascimento7494
    @carolnascimento7494 8 месяцев назад +2

    Sometimes I wonder if it could be persistant virus protein. Even if so, do these brain training and nervous system work ? Does anyone have any idea??

    • @cooki47
      @cooki47 7 месяцев назад

      I wonder the same thing. My white cell count is still high and I had Covid just before the New Year.

  • @nataliebutler
    @nataliebutler 9 месяцев назад +1

    I like to know what test were recommend in the UK as doctors can differ in their approach. I was diagnosed with cfs about a decade ago, and beyond basic blood tests, recieved no support from the nhs. I've recently discovered there are now cfs clinics but I'm still on the wait list, and as far as I'm aware they don't have much success.

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 9 месяцев назад

      Did anything ever come up abnormal on your tests?

    • @nataliebutler
      @nataliebutler 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@tanyawieczorek6603 I did have Epstein-Barr antibodies. I don't think the tests were very comprehensive.

    • @khatijakay4107
      @khatijakay4107 9 месяцев назад +1

      Do try the clinics but sadly it wasn’t a good experience for me

    • @eviemorgs
      @eviemorgs 7 месяцев назад

      They can’t really help, my experience was they clinically assess and diagnose you (there is no test) and then offer an intervention to help manage symptoms ie CBT and then you’re discharged from the service

  • @truthprevails7085
    @truthprevails7085 9 месяцев назад +6

    Good to hear brain training didn’t work, as well as John Sarno’s theory on the last video. At least for me they didn’t. I really thought Dan B’s simplified, which I appreciated, Program would work-but to no avail… so have just been doing again what 😘she describes here for the last decade. And it took me a decade to figure that out before the last decade lol🎉

    • @RaelanAgle
      @RaelanAgle  9 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks so much for sharing your experience - what a great reminder of how important every single story is in deepening our understanding! 💖

    • @NoNo-zf6tz
      @NoNo-zf6tz 9 месяцев назад +3

      Just curious how long did you try the brain training with consistency ?

    • @truthprevails7085
      @truthprevails7085 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@NoNo-zf6tz about 6 months, the last round.. many times b4 that. 🙂

    • @truthprevails7085
      @truthprevails7085 9 месяцев назад

      @@RaelanAgle ❤️🤗

    • @marlac.876
      @marlac.876 9 месяцев назад +2

      So what worked for you?

  • @seanm.collins9888
    @seanm.collins9888 9 месяцев назад +4

    So Shelley can still not get back to her old job physically, but she recovered?

    • @ShelleyLouiseHealWithShell
      @ShelleyLouiseHealWithShell 9 месяцев назад +8

      Hello, I haven't fully recovered yet and wouldn't go back to my old career right now as I do not feel like I have physical capacity. Teaching yoga and massage can be very draining physically and energetically even for the fittest/ healthiest person :) That might change in the future!

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@ShelleyLouiseHealWithShellare you Shelley?

    • @luistirado88
      @luistirado88 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ShelleyLouiseHealWithShell You'll get there, Shelley. We're all rooting for you.

  • @jtmcdermott4728
    @jtmcdermott4728 8 месяцев назад

    Awesome job 🎉

  • @danijeanes5078
    @danijeanes5078 9 месяцев назад +6

    Didn't really say anything about how to recover and doesn't seem to be recovered this was a very vague interview

    • @lucymcmanus3451
      @lucymcmanus3451 9 месяцев назад +2

      There was a lot about the mindset with which we approach our recovery lifestyle and recovery techniques.

    • @danijeanes5078
      @danijeanes5078 9 месяцев назад

      @@lucymcmanus3451 please outline them

  • @Rising497
    @Rising497 9 месяцев назад +1

    Shelley I’m from Brighton too!! Could we connect??

  • @justbecauseican1410
    @justbecauseican1410 9 месяцев назад +5

    Sounds like you did mostly top down brain retraining. I wonder what program you did. If you had a program that covers both somatics you would see results. But its not about fixing your synpromts. Bu focusing on that you set yourself up for failure. Your focus should be on your true self and livinf a life in alignment with what you love. That is the key to healing.

    • @ShelleyLouiseHealWithShell
      @ShelleyLouiseHealWithShell 9 месяцев назад +5

      Hey, I completely agree that it is not about fixing symptoms and focusing on living your true authentic life! The programme was Primal Trust which is brain retraining and somatics and I did see some improvement! It was not the end all though and I believe it depends how you approach these modalities. When I did the programme I was in a state of fear, urgency and despartation. Thank you for your message.

    • @justbecauseican1410
      @justbecauseican1410 9 месяцев назад +2

      The right mindshift and intention is really important. But you had the right mindshift when you did the other things. I hope you will be recovered fully. Wish you strength 👏

    • @lindsayh1502
      @lindsayh1502 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ShelleyLouiseHealWithShellPrimal Trust sent me back a bit actually but I know it can work well for lots. I found instant relief from Rebecca Tolins Be Your Own Medicine course. It’s so slow and simple … you just do a little each week over the course of a few months. I felt so safe and relaxed while doing it - which I hadn’t felt in other programs.

    • @PeaceIsJesusChrist
      @PeaceIsJesusChrist 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@lindsayh1502
      I’m so glad you found something that worked for you! Rebecca Tolin’s course is $600 for anyone curious. I’m willing to try $300 but not $600, but maybe I’ll change my mind down the road. It would certainly be worth it if it worked! I’m going to look into-your post has me intrigued. 😊

    • @lindsayh1502
      @lindsayh1502 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@PeaceIsJesusChristyes they’re not cheap that’s for sure. I found Rebecca’s very reasonable with what I was receiving weekly from the course. I still use her methods and practices 18 months later! 😁 I’m so thankful for her ❤

  • @CharlieRascal
    @CharlieRascal 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love the T Realan

  • @truthprevails7085
    @truthprevails7085 9 месяцев назад

    My comment was denied, testing this one

    • @RaelanAgle
      @RaelanAgle  9 месяцев назад +1

      Not sure what happed, YT can be quirky sometimes. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @truthprevails7085
      @truthprevails7085 9 месяцев назад

      @@RaelanAgle 2nd try was successful 👍

    • @PeaceIsJesusChrist
      @PeaceIsJesusChrist 9 месяцев назад

      @@truthprevails7085
      YT is notorious for deleting people’s comments. :/ Certain words get auto deleted. If I type Raelan’s name anywhere but here, it usually gets deleted. 😭 And some channels have filters that make it even more difficult to post. It’s frustrating!

  • @brendaharbst1879
    @brendaharbst1879 5 месяцев назад

    In other words brain retraining is healing her lol

  • @deborahd.7281
    @deborahd.7281 8 месяцев назад

    Why do these people talk so much without getting to the point?

  • @germanside7890
    @germanside7890 9 месяцев назад