It’s pointless. Being immobile, they will be targeted and struck from long range with missiles, way before they can fire. There’s a reason why they haven’t found many customers - especially from those who can afford missile defence systems.
Philip Liong Obviously you think this is weapons comparison conflict This is an economic conflict in which the west is slowly losing Sorry to burst you bubble of your inability to see reality
Phalanx is about 10 million per unit, mantis is 110 million per unit. Phalanx 6,000 yard range, mantis around 3,500 yard range. Phalanx 1,550 magazine, mantis 280 round magazine. Phalanx shell $30, mantis shell $undisclosed. Mantis seems to be a great system but unproven on the battlefield like the C-Ram. Germany usually always makes good systems though so I'm pretty sure it will perform. The Gepard performs well in battle.
@@philchristmas4071 You couldn't be more wrong. The German Bundeswehr bought TWO systems for 110 million. Each system includes 6 automatic guns, a control module and two sensor modules. So the Mantis system is actually cheaper. We also don't know the maximum firing range of the Mantis system, only the effective firing range, so it's only fair to compare apples to apples. Effective firing range mantis: 3000m, effective firing range Phalanx 1600m. On top of that, the Mantis system is more mobile and has a quicker and more accurate targeting system. But its not really a fair comparison, the Phalanx system is very old, it would be a shame if a brand new system could not beat a weapon system designed in 1969.
@@lukasweishaupt2708 You couldn't be more wrong. Ukraine just bought 2 skynex systems which is the gun mounted on a truck for 192 million dollars. I like the mantis and think it will perform well. My only concern is, the US did thousands of hours of testing with every different caliber. The one that always worked best was a wall of 20mm. Just watch C-Rams performance in battlefield conditions,vyou never see Rheinmetall putting out videos of testing even close to combat conditions. We get one video of a swarm of drones sitting still. If it performs only a small percentage better than the Gepard it will be fantastic. I would like to know the price of rounds and why they want disclose this information. Remember, they quit using the Gepard because of high operating cost.
@@eatdriveplay It is. MANTIS is a C-RAM system, it was bought by the German Army to protect their bases in Afghanistan from incoming indirect fire. Or did the Taliban in 2015 have attack aircraft, smartass?
“Artillary commander” “Sargent” - da habt ihr schon Muttersprachler, die den engl. Text sprechen, hätten die nicht auch mal kurz die Einblendungen durchlesen können?
Works great without enemies aiming at your air defense system - f. e. hypersonic weapons. Moreover it is confirmed that Russia took out two NATO commander bunkers in Liviv and Kiev.
@@johnswoboda2986 Yes but also.....Hamas cannot shoot more than a dozens of rockets at once. Any professional army can send out more. I mean using the good old BM-21 missile barrage is quite overwhelming to the Iron Dome. Imagine 20 of those, using the 280mm missiles at once or the same amount of TOS-1 obliterating the area and you can clearly see the faults of the modern missile defense system. Its either the munition will drain or that much incoming targets simply overwhelming the targetting system.
55mio € per turret, 750-1000€ per shot, 250.000€ for a whole magazine and given its not single shot but burstmode one button push = 24.000€ keep in mind these are prices from a german company for germany, you can double that for export, also considering the stress on that barrel you can assume you will have to change that aswell after every couple 1000 rounds.
What’s funny is I’m willing to bet that there’s going to be or rather there is a large number of individuals who think that something like this is a step backwards. After all, I like to think of this is being kind of like how following the Korean war, many nations Became highly dependent on missiles for their aircraft, and in some cases even ground defense. However, as it has been shown, anti-air defense from the ground can be difficult even with missiles. So having weapons systems like this and others like it, I feel is a good thing. After all with the proliferation of small unmanned drones in recent years systems, like this would be highly useful. Not to mention if the system is small enough, it could be much more easily transported rather than having a big heavy missile platform.
Rheinmetall designed a highly efficient, low cost modular truck that can not only put this on its back, but also atillery, cargo, trooptransport and radar, it has a cargo style arm in the back wich allows for one men to change the system, the trucks have different weightlimits, goes from 6 up to 10 wheels i think, all 3 variants share the same parts, allowing for cheap and fast response to mentainenace needs, since they will also serve as simple military cargohaulers, you can create an environment where there are tonnes of them around and take the parts from if you cant get new once. while the systems overall hit the top level of costs, their maintenance and longterm reliability is not compared to many others.
It is designed for camp protection (originally for Bundeswehr camps in Afghanistan). Then the system is set up so that it can protect in all directions at the same time.
55mio € per turret, 750-1000€ per shot, 250.000€ for a whole magazine and given its not single shot but burstmode one button push = 24.000€ keep in mind these are prices from a german company for germany, you can double that for export, also considering the stress on that barrel you can assume you will have to change that aswell after every couple 1000 rounds.
It was/is to costly for mass use back than, but now we are buying some similar systems, but on vehicle Skynex if the bureaucracy and decision is finally made for the Heeresflugabwehr (Army Air Defense Ground Army). At the Moment we dont have that anymore since Gepard was were decommissioned
They used plasma is Star Wars, only they called it lasers. Lasers can still be found in Star Wars but those are only the Kyber version and they still doesnt behave like a normal laser(like the Deathstar superlaser)
And what if drones fly low, I believe that drones will keep improving, you just need one drone made of paper, silent engine or battery, and being able to wear one light bomb and you can make casualties. The World that we are heading is scary, it might make us to think about making friendships, because making enemies will be easy
You've practically already given yourself the answer. Weapons development will never stand still. And if someone develops mini drones made of paper that can do a lot of damage, someone else will develop protection against them. It has always been like that and it will always be like that.
icmbs are way too fast to hit with shells or bullets. you'll need to intercept them on a specific point of their trajectory bevause they literally fall from space at over 10.000kph
Aselsan company produces a similar one. Their names are KORKUT and GOKDENIZ. KORKUT is for land platforms and GOKDENIZ is for naval platforms. GOKDENIZ CIWS will be attached to a corvette produced for the Turkmenistan navy. In addition, GOKDENIZ CIWS will be used in 4 MİLGEM corvettes to be produced for Pakistan. In the Turkish navy, some frigates and supply and support ships will be assembled as part of the modernization. KORKUT was used in the Libyan civil war and shot down one or two Chinese UAVs.
here is a tactical solution to destroy it.... First send a high speed flying object enough to miss the guns accuracy then while its busy targeting the threatless object a swarm of kamikaze drone done the job maintaining a tactical formation as lower ground flying or higher ,its depend on situation .
This system is always deployed in groups. A mantis system consists of 6 guns, 2 radars and 1 control unit. Overwhelming a system like this is almost impossible.
@@Zappina Hypersonic missiles are extremely rare, even today. They are way too expensive. The likelihood of someone firing a hypersonic missile at a small military outpost is pretty low.
😮 Idea 💡⚠️ What about if you put on tank Leo I this mantis shrimp Moving Hunters point accuracy beyond off and imagination Moving Air defence umbrella ☔ overall Tank and Tomo Toma.. Iron xiylis buldozers
If it costs more 50 kamikaze drones (price ranging from 4.000 up to 18.000 EUR) than itt is a failure. The drone number 51 will erase it. Also, Iit will have no more amno after drone number 10... This is pure bullshit, but the design is amazing in any case.
A Mantis system consists of 6 guns, they all can fire at different targets simultaneously with up to 1000 rounds per minute. Each round contains 152 tungsten projectiles, so each burst releases 5472 projectiles into the air. So good luck with 51 drones. You would need over 1000 drones to overwhelm a weapon system like this.
Its a stationary system and therefore still vulnerable. Also it can be overwhelmed like any other system. Such systems are expensive, you can get thousands of drones for the price of one to overwhelming its targetting system. It will make the enemy pay for the kill though but it doesnt make it invulnerable.
it also comes on wheel, on a truck and on a tank. those versions have their own build in radar. and good luck overwhelming it when a bunch of those are protecting each other. the fire rate is incredible.
Let's see if this can be mounted onto a tank if yes Ukrainian version has Nozh Explosive Reactive Armour on it's sides Hull is a T-84 made in Kharkiv which was home to the 2022 Ukrainian offensive. If fitted to Leopard 2A4-2A7 Hull Ukrainians will attach Nozh Explosive Reactive Armour like the 2A4. Celebrating Memorial Day here in the United States. Furthermore it can be used against tight infantry formations like how the Russians used Soviet Human wave attacks in Bakhmut
@thomasmargis9808 Thanks for telling me about that and I can see the BTR-4 get the Mantis turret for it's SPAAG Variant as an alternative to the Boxer APC provided the client state is familiar with the BTR platform
now we have 100 Billions and a good ammount of that is for ammo, the skyranger uses the same gun on a boxxer chassis , so i will be a good system in mass use .
There’s a reason why they haven’t found much sales. To be mounted static and a short range… it will be destroyed way before it can fire, by missiles that launch way further out.
These can destroy missiles. It largely depends on the Radar. Their lack of mobility is certainly their main problem. They are intended for Point defense.
@@jascrandom9855 the guns have to move fast enough and integrate with the gun’s trajectory and ranging… it’s not that simple. There’s no evidence as a system, it can defeat missiles - not even marketed to do that.
@@eatdriveplay It is marketed to do that. I can intercept missiles but also mortar and artillery rounds. It's a C-RAM (Counter Rocket, Artillery, Mortar). It is available in mobile versions mounted on a Boxer (Boxer Skyranger).
Херня какая-то. После первых выстрелов идентифицируется и уничтожается ракетой. Мля, бетона кубов 20 для фундамента и стабильности (рука-лицо). Один патрон дороже дрона.... Не, экономически хрень полная.🎉
Yes. Lancet is an overhyped drone. Ukrainian bomb drop drones have more kills than Lancet. Lancet can't even penetrate a simple net, let alone tungsten clouds.
...perfect. the system can engage supersonic arial targest as well as small 82mm mortar shells. It can detect targets more than 30 km away. Lancet will be some funny practice shooting for Mantis....
Which we know by now that they dont have supersonic missiles since Ukraine took down what they claimed to be supersonic while the engineers are sitting in the gulag, corruption wherever u can look.
It can easily be defeated with swarm of drones that keep changing direction and altitude. Gepard proven useless in Ukraine war due to limited range and swarm of drones changing direction all the time.
Not quiet true. 35 mm ammunition can be programmed to explode in proximity to the drones, which would destroy the drones by shrapnels. No direct hit necessary.
And what about this? If you have to wait a few years for a pair of tanks from Germany, what will be the speed of production of something like this? The truth is that Germany alone is not able to produce equipment at the rate that Korea or the USA do. Therefore, the biggest mistake was the lack of willingness to cooperate on a large scale with Poland and the Czech Republic Poland and the Czech Republic have shown that their industry is able to modernize and produce the most complicated things. Example Leopard 2PL Poland practically has to dismantle the entire tank, replace about 40% of the parts and rework the tank's turrets, additionally, at the same time, it repairs Ukrainian tanks. So does the Czech Republic, which modernizes the T 72 and a lot of vehicles for Ukraine non-stop. In addition, the Czech Army began to complain that Czech post-Soviet tanks were in better condition than Leopard 2A4s. Similarly, the Norwegian military is not happy with the political choice of the new Leopard 2s, because the K2 was often better in tests, cheaper, susceptible to major modifications, and the delivery of tanks was faster. This just proves how wrong Germany's policy was between 2000 and 2022.
So 15 seconds of shooting before you need to reload the gun... Which takes how long?? 😅 They have to add graphite paste by hand on every single round... 😂 So send some cheap drones, let the guns use their ammo and then fire the serious rockets... In fact: useless.
typical embarrassing comment of the kind: zero idea, a lot of opinion. the thing does not shoot continuously 15 sec, but in short fast bursts of 5 to 30 bullets. which is quite sufficient thanks to AHEAD. the graphite paste is used in peacetime to protect the material. one of the best systems currently in the world. senseless is only your brainless comment.
@@RedNovembers In tests a 4 round burst was needed to intercept a 155 mm Artillery round. Drones are larger and move significantly slower so they state it's about 3 rounds per drone maximum, usally it's a first round hit.
@@jonny2954 Even shorter than 5? Okay, I didn't know that. But you can see it in the gepard videos from Ukraine. There are so clueless guys like the guy above who say: oh, 1500 cadence, only 200 shots, totally pointless. That the drones are brought down in bursts of 5 is probably too much math for them =)
Это оружие НИКОГДА не было в реальном бою. Может сильно разочаровать. Да и какие дроны, когда обстреливать берег будут из из обычной артиллерии. Меньше фантастику смотрите.
Taiwan should line their entire coast with these.
Germany won't sell, ... :-(
But if China is interested Germany is willing to transfer the technology..
It’s pointless. Being immobile, they will be targeted and struck from long range with missiles, way before they can fire. There’s a reason why they haven’t found many customers - especially from those who can afford missile defence systems.
They'll still lose
@k_u_e_r_i_s_u_e too big to be truly mobile. It does not have an integral targeting system and will need to be slaved to a radar.
This Mantis air defense systems not only can defend air attack and it also can attack and defend against air ground and sea attack
Philip Liong
Obviously you think this is weapons comparison conflict
This is an economic conflict in which the west is slowly losing
Sorry to burst you bubble of your inability to see reality
Phenomenal system.
Vielen Dank Deutschland und deutsche Militärwissenschaftler
They've made real world sentry guns only bigger and more badass.
Why is there a flap on the top of the gun exploding after the firing? 5:10
Outstanding! 💯
Looks nice…seems more rugged and affordable than the Phalanx on Navy ships!
Phalanx is about 10 million per unit, mantis is 110 million per unit. Phalanx 6,000 yard range, mantis around 3,500 yard range. Phalanx 1,550 magazine, mantis 280 round magazine. Phalanx shell $30, mantis shell $undisclosed. Mantis seems to be a great system but unproven on the battlefield like the C-Ram. Germany usually always makes good systems though so I'm pretty sure it will perform. The Gepard performs well in battle.
@@philchristmas4071 wow thanks for clearing that up…didn’t know the Mantis is that much more expensive considering it’s used on the field.
@@philchristmas4071 You couldn't be more wrong. The German Bundeswehr bought TWO systems for 110 million. Each system includes 6 automatic guns, a control module and two sensor modules. So the Mantis system is actually cheaper. We also don't know the maximum firing range of the Mantis system, only the effective firing range, so it's only fair to compare apples to apples. Effective firing range mantis: 3000m, effective firing range Phalanx 1600m. On top of that, the Mantis system is more mobile and has a quicker and more accurate targeting system. But its not really a fair comparison, the Phalanx system is very old, it would be a shame if a brand new system could not beat a weapon system designed in 1969.
@@lukasweishaupt2708 You couldn't be more wrong. Ukraine just bought 2 skynex systems which is the gun mounted on a truck for 192 million dollars. I like the mantis and think it will perform well. My only concern is, the US did thousands of hours of testing with every different caliber. The one that always worked best was a wall of 20mm. Just watch C-Rams performance in battlefield conditions,vyou never see Rheinmetall putting out videos of testing even close to combat conditions. We get one video of a swarm of drones sitting still. If it performs only a small percentage better than the Gepard it will be fantastic. I would like to know the price of rounds and why they want disclose this information. Remember, they quit using the Gepard because of high operating cost.
no doubt this system is amazing and advanced. but Harakiri means perish with self dignity. not like retaliating something.
It's the "Welt". Quite normal for them to use tabloid styled language and overdoing it. The information at least is legit.
Send Mantis Air Defence to Ukraine!
they said one of the most advanced but nobody has anything like this
Because guns are short ranged… and useless against a modern Air Force that will launch missiles way further out.
@@eatdriveplay It's a C-RAM. It's primary purpose is not to shoot down aircraft but the missiles fired from that aircraft.
@@jonny2954 it’s not primarily a C-RAM system. Lol.
@@eatdriveplay It is. MANTIS is a C-RAM system, it was bought by the German Army to protect their bases in Afghanistan from incoming indirect fire. Or did the Taliban in 2015 have attack aircraft, smartass?
@@eatdriveplay The full name of this system is MANTIS NBS C-RAM. So yes. It's a C-RAM system.
“Artillary commander” “Sargent” - da habt ihr schon Muttersprachler, die den engl. Text sprechen, hätten die nicht auch mal kurz die Einblendungen durchlesen können?
Excellent. Very impressive.
Works great without enemies aiming at your air defense system - f. e. hypersonic weapons. Moreover it is confirmed that Russia took out two NATO commander bunkers in Liviv and Kiev.
@@sergejlavrov3446
Yeah, great Russian army. How is the war in Ukraine going?
@@BewareOfTheKraut 200k dead. It's going very badly for them I would say.
We want to hear it do the TR-R-R-R-R-RT but each time its about to do it you keep interrupting the audio 😭
Send these to Ukraine.
Incredible engineering 😮
Just like in iron dome case. You can send cheap objects to drain it ammo first
Yeah, but an Iron Dome missile costs like 20'000 USD. Not sure about the cost of that smart 35mm munitions, but for sure cheaper.
@@johnswoboda2986 Probably not by much - you see the rate of fire on that thing?
@@ianboard544 yeah, but 7 of those 35mm still cheaper than an iron dome missile. But then a hamas missile only costs 500 dollars.
@@johnswoboda2986 Yes but also.....Hamas cannot shoot more than a dozens of rockets at once. Any professional army can send out more. I mean using the good old BM-21 missile barrage is quite overwhelming to the Iron Dome. Imagine 20 of those, using the 280mm missiles at once or the same amount of TOS-1 obliterating the area and you can clearly see the faults of the modern missile defense system. Its either the munition will drain or that much incoming targets simply overwhelming the targetting system.
@@Zappina yes
and whats the price ?
Profitable.
55mio € per turret, 750-1000€ per shot, 250.000€ for a whole magazine and given its not single shot but burstmode one button push = 24.000€
keep in mind these are prices from a german company for germany, you can double that for export, also considering the stress on that barrel you can assume you will have to change that aswell after every couple 1000 rounds.
What’s funny is I’m willing to bet that there’s going to be or rather there is a large number of individuals who think that something like this is a step backwards. After all, I like to think of this is being kind of like how following the Korean war, many nations Became highly dependent on missiles for their aircraft, and in some cases even ground defense. However, as it has been shown, anti-air defense from the ground can be difficult even with missiles. So having weapons systems like this and others like it, I feel is a good thing. After all with the proliferation of small unmanned drones in recent years systems, like this would be highly useful. Not to mention if the system is small enough, it could be much more easily transported rather than having a big heavy missile platform.
Can you make this mobile? Kind of vulnerable stationary
Yes. Boxer Skyranger.
Rheinmetall designed a highly efficient, low cost modular truck that can not only put this on its back, but also atillery, cargo, trooptransport and radar, it has a cargo style arm in the back wich allows for one men to change the system, the trucks have different weightlimits, goes from 6 up to 10 wheels i think, all 3 variants share the same parts, allowing for cheap and fast response to mentainenace needs, since they will also serve as simple military cargohaulers, you can create an environment where there are tonnes of them around and take the parts from if you cant get new once.
while the systems overall hit the top level of costs, their maintenance and longterm reliability is not compared to many others.
Did Germany actually send them (with ammo)?
No. They sent the Gepard though
... sick system.
2:40 kurzgesagt? 👀
What if the threat comes from 3 directions at once ?
It is designed for camp protection (originally for Bundeswehr camps in Afghanistan). Then the system is set up so that it can protect in all directions at the same time.
Kumain na ba kayo?
Brp harganya... Aku nk beli lah 💪
55mio € per turret, 750-1000€ per shot, 250.000€ for a whole magazine and given its not single shot but burstmode one button push = 24.000€
keep in mind these are prices from a german company for germany, you can double that for export, also considering the stress on that barrel you can assume you will have to change that aswell after every couple 1000 rounds.
Wunderwaffe 👍
2012? I’d think this system has come a long way since then unless it took a decade to deliver lol
It was/is to costly for mass use back than, but now we are buying some similar systems, but on vehicle Skynex if the bureaucracy and decision is finally made for the Heeresflugabwehr (Army Air Defense Ground Army).
At the Moment we dont have that anymore since Gepard was were decommissioned
Now I understand why they use lasers in star wars. Classic weapons got so much lag. You wouldn't see the end of movie within 2 hours.
They used plasma is Star Wars, only they called it lasers. Lasers can still be found in Star Wars but those are only the Kyber version and they still doesnt behave like a normal laser(like the Deathstar superlaser)
artillery? 02:15
136 Millions for 2 stationary units?
136 Million for 2 SYSTEMS. Each system consists of 6 guns, 2 radar modules and 1 control module.
136 millions for weapons.
Very good system
I like its powerful
Germans make such cool war toys.
Deutsche engineering
Vorsprung durch tehnik
A must have anti-uav for the Philippines.
Attach one of those to a U.S. Navy destroyer or similar. Nice piece of kit. 🇩🇪 🇺🇸
And what if drones fly low, I believe that drones will keep improving, you just need one drone made of paper, silent engine or battery, and being able to wear one light bomb and you can make casualties. The World that we are heading is scary, it might make us to think about making friendships, because making enemies will be easy
If you imagine number of drones as mosquitos, who ever killed all the mosquitos?
You've practically already given yourself the answer. Weapons development will never stand still. And if someone develops mini drones made of paper that can do a lot of damage, someone else will develop protection against them. It has always been like that and it will always be like that.
It's good to know DJI has a warranty against being tungsten'ed by MANTIS operated by Bundeswehr.
Simplicity air defense system
Not for Russian drones
Can Intercept ICBM or Hypersonic missiles?
icmbs are way too fast to hit with shells or bullets. you'll need to intercept them on a specific point of their trajectory bevause they literally fall from space at over 10.000kph
Ukraine need this bad ass.....
80 years too late, just saying.
Don't go skydiving over there
Taiwan had better cover their coastline with these things. Pooh Bear wants his honey.
this thing is useless against missile and artilery
@@diawannoto Its not red dragon
@@diawannoto It's a C-RAM. Shooting down missiles and artillery rounds is literally its main task.
@@diawannoto wrong, even the gepard sots down russian missiles
Your air defence system will be reloaded in 3 business days.
russia lost ww1 against Germany 🇩🇪
childhood command n conquer in real life.
So...C&C IRL
German Brrrt
If only half of it would be true, this would be the best system in the world...
It is considered to be the best gun based CIWS in the world.
This can easily be upgraded to use satellite imagery from space with better ammunition you have a very dangerous weapon that can be deployed anywhere
I dont think you understand how satellite imagery works.
@GammΩ well smarty pants go head and tell me
@@jamesjensen5226 you cant guide guns with a satellite
@@gamm8939 they have them on missiles already
@@jamesjensen5226 yes you can tell a missile where to go via satellite, but you cant tell a gun where to fire with a satellite
very nice to destroyed lanced drones
Q: What kind of enemy can the Mantis fight?
A: Yes!
1945 reminds you of anything
russia lost ww1 against Germany 🇩🇪
Nice advertising!!
Aselsan company produces a similar one. Their names are KORKUT and GOKDENIZ. KORKUT is for land platforms and GOKDENIZ is for naval platforms. GOKDENIZ CIWS will be attached to a corvette produced for the Turkmenistan navy. In addition, GOKDENIZ CIWS will be used in 4 MİLGEM corvettes to be produced for Pakistan.
In the Turkish navy, some frigates and supply and support ships will be assembled as part of the modernization.
KORKUT was used in the Libyan civil war and shot down one or two Chinese UAVs.
Almost....but those systems arent use smart ammunition. This is more like a modern version of the flak cannon, the germans used in WW2.
cool review, send it to ukraine's power plants to prove this
here is a tactical solution to destroy it.... First send a high speed flying object enough to miss the guns accuracy then while its busy targeting the threatless object a swarm of kamikaze drone done the job maintaining a tactical formation as lower ground flying or higher ,its depend on situation .
This system is always deployed in groups. A mantis system consists of 6 guns, 2 radars and 1 control unit. Overwhelming a system like this is almost impossible.
wow
Viva Deutschland
Ukraine will proove all your words, or not
Taiwan needs one of these every five feet around the island
If Germany sells this system to China, China will destroy Germany's economy.
These are stationary. They need mobile versions to avoid long range missile strikes and ballistic missiles.
@@Zappina What do you think is the purpose of a CRAM system? It literally destroys incoming missiles...
@@lukasweishaupt2708 Good luck shooting down a hypersonic missile with that, Or a falling warhead travelling at 18 thousands kilometer per hour.
@@Zappina Hypersonic missiles are extremely rare, even today. They are way too expensive. The likelihood of someone firing a hypersonic missile at a small military outpost is pretty low.
Just about anything? Just about?
Si, si como los Leopard 2. Otro cuento para niños.
Wow, computerized shotgun.
😮 Idea 💡⚠️
What about if you put on tank Leo I this mantis shrimp
Moving Hunters point accuracy beyond off and imagination
Moving Air defence umbrella ☔ overall Tank and Tomo Toma..
Iron xiylis buldozers
If it costs more 50 kamikaze drones (price ranging from 4.000 up to 18.000 EUR) than itt is a failure.
The drone number 51 will erase it.
Also, Iit will have no more amno after drone number 10...
This is pure bullshit, but the design is amazing in any case.
A Mantis system consists of 6 guns, they all can fire at different targets simultaneously with up to 1000 rounds per minute. Each round contains 152 tungsten projectiles, so each burst releases 5472 projectiles into the air. So good luck with 51 drones. You would need over 1000 drones to overwhelm a weapon system like this.
Its a stationary system and therefore still vulnerable. Also it can be overwhelmed like any other system. Such systems are expensive, you can get thousands of drones for the price of one to overwhelming its targetting system. It will make the enemy pay for the kill though but it doesnt make it invulnerable.
it also comes on wheel, on a truck and on a tank. those versions have their own build in radar. and good luck overwhelming it when a bunch of those are protecting each other. the fire rate is incredible.
And I suppose your rUsSiaN "wonder weapons" 😂 are not, right?
drone with titanium body will immune to your area damage
How about propellers?
It is also more costly and the explosion can still damage electronics and engine parts.
Titanium is not indestructible. For it to be immune to the damage it will be to heavy to fly.
Let's see if this can be mounted onto a tank if yes Ukrainian version has Nozh Explosive Reactive Armour on it's sides Hull is a T-84 made in Kharkiv which was home to the 2022 Ukrainian offensive. If fitted to Leopard 2A4-2A7 Hull Ukrainians will attach Nozh Explosive Reactive Armour like the 2A4. Celebrating Memorial Day here in the United States. Furthermore it can be used against tight infantry formations like how the Russians used Soviet Human wave attacks in Bakhmut
It is already. Called Skyranger then.
@thomasmargis9808 Thanks for telling me about that and I can see the BTR-4 get the Mantis turret for it's SPAAG Variant as an alternative to the Boxer APC provided the client state is familiar with the BTR platform
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Another one a bst gun
With ammo from Switzerland. You're screwed.
Soon from Spain too.
We all know how this works folks, each mantis comes with 1000 rounds, after 1 minute of action we are defenseless. There is no money for ammunition.
now we have 100 Billions and a good ammount of that is for ammo, the skyranger uses the same gun on a boxxer chassis , so i will be a good system in mass use .
Send to Ukraine plse asap 😊
Hypersonic missiles 😂😂
There’s a reason why they haven’t found much sales. To be mounted static and a short range… it will be destroyed way before it can fire, by missiles that launch way further out.
These can destroy missiles. It largely depends on the Radar. Their lack of mobility is certainly their main problem. They are intended for Point defense.
@@jascrandom9855 the guns have to move fast enough and integrate with the gun’s trajectory and ranging… it’s not that simple. There’s no evidence as a system, it can defeat missiles - not even marketed to do that.
@@eatdriveplay It is marketed to do that. I can intercept missiles but also mortar and artillery rounds. It's a C-RAM (Counter Rocket, Artillery, Mortar). It is available in mobile versions mounted on a Boxer (Boxer Skyranger).
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My cheeks can move faster den dat !
FiRe BrEaThEr
Херня какая-то. После первых выстрелов идентифицируется и уничтожается ракетой. Мля, бетона кубов 20 для фундамента и стабильности (рука-лицо). Один патрон дороже дрона.... Не, экономически хрень полная.🎉
Они и на колёсном шасси есть и на точность выстрела это не влияет, шрапнель достаёт даже миномётную мину на подлёте. Комплекс очень впечатляющий.
The American CWIS and CRAM are both proven effective and I'd say this system is even better. So you have no clue what you are talking about here.
Lmao, you think this will work against lancet drones? 😂😂
LMAO, you think your IQ will work against Russian propaganda? 😂😂
i don't see the orcs with lancet drones, sheeet, they still haggling with the ayatollah about those gas powered buzzbombs...
Yes. Lancet is an overhyped drone.
Ukrainian bomb drop drones have more kills than Lancet.
Lancet can't even penetrate a simple net, let alone tungsten clouds.
...perfect. the system can engage supersonic arial targest as well as small 82mm mortar shells. It can detect targets more than 30 km away. Lancet will be some funny practice shooting for Mantis....
Bald in der ukraine im Einsatz 🙋🏻♂️
It's basically the same as the CIWS, we(Denmark) use on our frigates. It's just called 'Millennium Gun'.
Not even close... ciws doesn't program each projectile as it leaves the gun barrel.
No it's not
@@CellarDoorCS yeah, that's a big detail he's overlooking.
@@paladro I'm not missing anything. The Millennium Gun uses the same AHEAD ammunition. And it's programed when it leaves the muzzle. Look it up 🤷♂️
@@ltg8382 Yes it is 🙄
I don't think they have a chance against Russian supersonics missiles in my opinion
Which we know by now that they dont have supersonic missiles since Ukraine took down what they claimed to be supersonic while the engineers are sitting in the gulag, corruption wherever u can look.
Almost all Western weapons failed to deter Russia, why dont Germany send these to Ukraine and see how these things performe
It can easily be defeated with swarm of drones that keep changing direction and altitude. Gepard proven useless in Ukraine war due to limited range and swarm of drones changing direction all the time.
Not quiet true. 35 mm ammunition can be programmed to explode in proximity to the drones, which would destroy the drones by shrapnels. No direct hit necessary.
It's a junk 😂 go to Russian museum watch by your own eyes . This is not air defense this is a junk we saw a lot of
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russia lost ww1 against Germany 🇩🇪
And what about this? If you have to wait a few years for a pair of tanks from Germany, what will be the speed of production of something like this? The truth is that Germany alone is not able to produce equipment at the rate that Korea or the USA do. Therefore, the biggest mistake was the lack of willingness to cooperate on a large scale with Poland and the Czech Republic Poland and the Czech Republic have shown that their industry is able to modernize and produce the most complicated things. Example Leopard 2PL Poland practically has to dismantle the entire tank, replace about 40% of the parts and rework the tank's turrets, additionally, at the same time, it repairs Ukrainian tanks. So does the Czech Republic, which modernizes the T 72 and a lot of vehicles for Ukraine non-stop. In addition, the Czech Army began to complain that Czech post-Soviet tanks were in better condition than Leopard 2A4s. Similarly, the Norwegian military is not happy with the political choice of the new Leopard 2s, because the K2 was often better in tests, cheaper, susceptible to major modifications, and the delivery of tanks was faster. This just proves how wrong Germany's policy was between 2000 and 2022.
Hhhhhhh. Its a very old concept. Russia has the chilka its the same but better
The Shilka does not have programmable airburst ammunition. It has to score a direct hit on the target like the Gepard from the 70s.
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how much it cost? 70 million each battery? wow... rusia can send kinzal 7 times, and surely will hit it.
So 15 seconds of shooting before you need to reload the gun... Which takes how long?? 😅 They have to add graphite paste by hand on every single round... 😂 So send some cheap drones, let the guns use their ammo and then fire the serious rockets... In fact: useless.
typical embarrassing comment of the kind: zero idea, a lot of opinion. the thing does not shoot continuously 15 sec, but in short fast bursts of 5 to 30 bullets. which is quite sufficient thanks to AHEAD. the graphite paste is used in peacetime to protect the material. one of the best systems currently in the world. senseless is only your brainless comment.
@@RedNovembers In tests a 4 round burst was needed to intercept a 155 mm Artillery round. Drones are larger and move significantly slower so they state it's about 3 rounds per drone maximum, usally it's a first round hit.
@@jonny2954 Even shorter than 5? Okay, I didn't know that. But you can see it in the gepard videos from Ukraine. There are so clueless guys like the guy above who say: oh, 1500 cadence, only 200 shots, totally pointless. That the drones are brought down in bursts of 5 is probably too much math for them =)
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Rubbish. Its not available yet and there is not enough ammo either.
russia lost ww1 against Germany 🇩🇪
mega altes Video!
Это оружие НИКОГДА не было в реальном бою. Может сильно разочаровать. Да и какие дроны, когда обстреливать берег будут из из обычной артиллерии. Меньше фантастику смотрите.
russia lost ww1 against Germany 🇩🇪