We just leased one. It's a HUGE car, just as long as our Acura RDX. Why do people call it a compact car? It's built with 60%+ recycled material and the entire car is over 90% recyclable. I LOVE THAT.
Congrats on getting your new LEAF. I know the compact thing is weird. They classify the RAV4 and the CR-V as compact SUVs and they're big. Your RDX is a compact as well. The MDX is midsized.
@@jonathancappellini2961 Degradation is based on the original Leaf with the original battery. Since then there have been several modifications and upgrades to the battery. People love to knock the successful Leaf and usually they are people who haven't got one or can't afford one.
I leased 2015 and retuned in 2018 save a lot of money ( free charging from work) Now i bought used 2018 150 miles with 15K price and 20k miles on a. I liked this car if u want to save the money buy used.
Do you agree with me that the Nissan LEAF is a great buy today for an electric vehicle? It's a solid, reliable EV that performs much better than most gasoline hatchbacks. Let me know if I'm crazy and you disagree. 😱👍
@Allen S That fire situation for the Kona EVs in Korea is concerning. I hear that they 've decided to stop selling them in Korea due to poor reputation.
It's probably a better buy than most, and it's actually available. That said, electrics are still very expensive compared to gasoline cars. Yes, recharging is less expensive than refueling; maintenance is cheaper with electrics, too. One-pedal driving is kickass. I paid $8k for a used 2017 Versa S. It has a range of nearly 400 miles per tank, and refuels in less than 10 minutes. Compare that even to a used 2017 Leaf, and you're seeing 100ish mile range per charge, a price between $10k and $15k, and likely a somewhat degraded battery. I live in an apartment complex, with no feasible way to charge from home. Both cars are fine commuters, but if I wanted to road trip the Versa, I could easily do so. It's roomy, good on gas, and comfortable to drive. It would take quite some time before the Leaf paid for itself in fuel and maintenance savings, and by that point, I might need a new battery pack. Electrics are getting closer, but they aren't quite there yet.
Absolutely, because I just purchased one, and as far as I can remember no one has ever sold me a car. I have owned about a dozen different one, I have always done my research, and then gone out and buy one. Yes it has definitely a big car feel. great acceleration to boot, very smooth and comfortable, and after 10 years of history behind, most bugs and imperfection by now have been ironed out. Except for Tesla, I would never consider any other EV brand, for too new, too unproven, too high priced for their contents, especially those horrible new VW and Audi , both definitely over rated, definitely over priced by much and definitely under performing, $ pro $ nothing out there beats Nissan leaf especially the 62 Watt battery model.
We gonna lease a Nissan leaf 2021 model , 40 kwh later this year! We already made a test drive , and we love it! Also the E-pedal is amazing I didn't used the brake pedal
The way that a person intends to use their car must also be a major part of the selection and purchase of their next vehicle. I purchased the 2020 Leaf here in Australia to replace a Diesel Mazda BT-50. I just wasn't driving enough to warrant the expense of upkeep to keep the Diesel healthy and running well. To me the Leaf was the answer. Just about all my driving, since retirement, is short to medium trips. Mostly city driving with a little free-way use. The Leaf EV is perfect for this. Cheap to charge, mostly at home, low maintenance and comfortable to drive. It cost me $42,000 which here is equivalent to a mid-range ICE SUV and a lot cheaper than the Hyundai EV's. Neil W
Thanks for sharing your experience TheNWPerry. I had to look up what a Mazda BT-50 was. It's a good looking truck! It's a great price you paid for a solid, reliable EV. Glad to hear that you're enjoying the LEAF.
My Nissan Leaf SV Plus came with a 20 year 200K mi Powertrain warranty. I feel for the price I am paying, monthly payment that is a REALLY good deal and peace of mind.
Traded my PHEV (2.5 years old) for a new standard 2020 Leaf. With Leaf incentives and future repair costs due on my PHEV (4 new tires, oil change, and registration), I actually gained about 500 dollars trading in my used car for a new Leaf. My total cost on the Leaf after incentives including TTL and full 4-year powertrain warranty (regular only covers defects) was about 19K. I don't really need the range and we can use my wife's SUV for longer trips or I can rent a car if needed on Turo or with a rental company fairly cheaply. I don't drive enough or take enough road trips to need more than 200 miles range.
@@carsavvy4764 I plan on adding a Comma Two system onto our LEAF. Looking forward to testing it out. I think that makes the value proposition even more appealing when you add in a top rated driver assist system. Will see how it goes and maybe make a new channel with some videos.
The Tesla Model 3 SR+ can only charge at 170 kw not 250 kw as you said. That is under ideal conditions and only till about 50% state of charge. We have owned an SR+ for 2 years,My biggest complaint is the constant software updates(Almost as bad as a Windows computer) 2nd complaint is outer drivers want to constantly race you especially people who have high end cars like Mercedes/BMW.
I agree, the Leaf in our market is number one of all EV sold here in NZ as we can get Japanese and UK imports at a much lower cost than new. With a Kona EV costing NZ$80k vs around NZ$60k for an almost new 62kwh Nissan Leaf ex Japan.
Thanks Greg for your info regarding NZ. That's a no brainer to buy the nearly new LEAF for NZ$20k less than the Kona EV. It seems that the Kona costs more in NZ even accounting for exchange rates. Is that true for most vehicles in NZ?
@@carsavvy4764 Well a ICE Kona starts at NZ$32,000 for a base model vs NZ$77,000 for the base EV Kona. Or more that 2x the price. A brand new base model Tesla Model 3 is only $4000 at NZ$81,000 so if you want a fast EV with 150kw superchargers vs 50kw chargers for all non Tesla. If you want to take your chances on getting a Model 3 that was put together correctly then Tesla in my country is the way to go. However we brought our Leaf for city use only so it is perfect for our use..
@@carsavvy4764 Of course if Tesla ever gets their act together and start selling the Chinese made Model 3 in our market they would sell a lot more as not only are the Chinese made Model 3 much better put together and also much more reliable than the US made cars we have a solid free trade agreement with China meaning they could possibly be the cheapest sold EV in our country!
@@gregandkaruna6674 Tesla is learning on the fly how to mass produce cars and a the buyers are the beta testers. China is in position to be a dominant player in EVs since they've invested so much money and time in battery technology and autonomous driving.
Battery overheats like crazy in summer since it's not cooled. If they fix that issue, give it a longer range closer to 300, and lose the Chademo, I'd consider buying it. Otherwise, buy the Kona EV, the Ford Mach-E or the Tesla Model 3.
@@carsavvy4764 I wonder if the 2020 Nissan Leaf S Plus would actually charge from almost empty to full in 11 hours, when it's 85 degrees outside at night? (this is very common for a lot of the SouthWest from MidMay to Early September) would the outside ambient temperature really slow down the charging speed in this case?
I agree, 2017 Chevy Bolt EV is a great value, which I talk about on my channel. We did test drive the 2018 LEAF and it's a good car with good features if you are okay with less range.
IMHO not nearly as comfortable as the Leaf. It's not said often enough but the Leaf is very comfortable with a quality ride experience. It's no high end Mercedes but you can easily spend several hours behind the wheel and not feel fatigued in the least. As well, it's certainly no sports car. But for what's essentially a commuter car, its acceleration and handling characteristics will impress you. It's real winning point is it's reliability. Without the liquid cooling system for the battery pack this EV is extremely simple. There's little to go wrong with them and little does. The only complaint I'm aware of is that of premature capacity loss for vehicles registered in very hot climates (like Arizona and other southwestern states). However, if frequent use of high power HVDC charging isn't required (for most commuter applications charging at home is usually all that is needed), and if they are not operated in states that frequently experience extreme heat (above 100F), there shouldn't be any issues with these battery packs. There's plenty of anecdotal and empirical evidence to back this up. Something else to consider: The Nissan Leaf recently won the Kelley Blue Book's 5-year Cost-to-Own Award. www.motorbiscuit.com/the-nissan-leaf-won-kelly-blue-books-2020-5-year-cost-to-own-award/
Tesla = Lowest quality most dangerous always exploding fire hazards on the roads... (most common EV to have battery fires and major design flaws) LEAF = BEST EV for; build quality, Safety (only EV to never have a battery fire) value, looks and styling, sexiness, quietness, type of EV, most practical EV, most advanced JAPANESE TECH With the CCS to CHAdeMO adaptor now available the LEAF can use more public fast chargers than any EV with only CCS
its not. the bolt has longer range and is the same price currently - 26k and it has battery cooling. no battery cooling makes the leaf useless on a road trip because it will reduce recharging from the decent 74kw down to under 30kw because of heat throttling. and long term the packs will die fast from the extra heat.
I prefer the Niro if it was the same price but real life pricing will be about $8000 to $10000 more for a comparable Niro vs the LEAF. I just don't think the NIRO is worth that much premium over the LEAF. Good luck.
@@brianw.4985 Consumer Reports recently removed the Niro EV from their recommended list due to poor reliability. Hopefully Kia will figure it out. www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/reliability-problems-plague-newer-electric-cars/
Test drive both to see which one you prefer. Think about charge rate, range, price and air cooling vs liquid cooling. Also think about the charging network and quick charge type whether CCS or Chademo if you'll need to do road trips or quick charge often.
@@carsavvy4764 I drove a Leaf SL Plus yesterday; the acceleration is a lot of fun, a serious torque party. I didn't get it largely because I do not yet have charging for a car at home.
That is asuming you can even receive the full tax credit. I will only get 5500 because of my income. Kinda bs tbh, especially since the prices are somewhat inflated due to the tax credit.
@@lafayetteporter6044 in addition it would be a point of sale credit. I do qualify for $7500, but it would be nice to finance less. If I were to buy today, it would be the LEAF, but this might change depending on what passes. I might purchase an EV this year depending on a few factors.
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We just leased one. It's a HUGE car, just as long as our Acura RDX. Why do people call it a compact car? It's built with 60%+ recycled material and the entire car is over 90% recyclable. I LOVE THAT.
Congrats on getting your new LEAF. I know the compact thing is weird. They classify the RAV4 and the CR-V as compact SUVs and they're big. Your RDX is a compact as well. The MDX is midsized.
That's pretty cool.
I recently bought the Leaf Tekna 62 Kwh. I studied all competition and the Leaf won because of its history and reliability.
Good choice BaronSilver Baron. Congratulations on a great purchase of your Leaf.
How are you liking it so far? Any issues?
Reliability of degradation? Haha
We bought a 40 kWh over 2 years ago. It's brilliant. No issues unlike our BMW and Mercedes which it replaces.
@@jonathancappellini2961 Degradation is based on the original Leaf with the original battery. Since then there have been several modifications and upgrades to the battery. People love to knock the successful Leaf and usually they are people who haven't got one or can't afford one.
I just snapped up a 2018 SL with only 10K miles on it at half the list of a new one. I'm loving it.
Oh wow! That’s exactly what I’m looking for! I hope i find something like that soon
I leased 2015 and retuned in 2018 save a lot of money ( free charging from work) Now i bought used 2018 150 miles with 15K price and 20k miles on a. I liked this car if u want to save the money buy used.
Do you agree with me that the Nissan LEAF is a great buy today for an electric vehicle? It's a solid, reliable EV that performs much better than most gasoline hatchbacks. Let me know if I'm crazy and you disagree. 😱👍
@Allen S That fire situation for the Kona EVs in Korea is concerning. I hear that they
've decided to stop selling them in Korea due to poor reputation.
It's probably a better buy than most, and it's actually available. That said, electrics are still very expensive compared to gasoline cars. Yes, recharging is less expensive than refueling; maintenance is cheaper with electrics, too. One-pedal driving is kickass.
I paid $8k for a used 2017 Versa S. It has a range of nearly 400 miles per tank, and refuels in less than 10 minutes. Compare that even to a used 2017 Leaf, and you're seeing 100ish mile range per charge, a price between $10k and $15k, and likely a somewhat degraded battery. I live in an apartment complex, with no feasible way to charge from home. Both cars are fine commuters, but if I wanted to road trip the Versa, I could easily do so. It's roomy, good on gas, and comfortable to drive. It would take quite some time before the Leaf paid for itself in fuel and maintenance savings, and by that point, I might need a new battery pack.
Electrics are getting closer, but they aren't quite there yet.
Absolutely, because I just purchased one, and as far as I can remember no one has ever sold me a car. I have owned about a dozen different one, I have always done my research, and then gone out and buy one. Yes it has definitely a big car feel. great acceleration to boot, very smooth and comfortable, and after 10 years of history behind, most bugs and imperfection by now have been ironed out. Except for Tesla, I would never consider any other EV brand, for too new, too unproven, too high priced for their contents, especially those horrible new VW and Audi , both definitely over rated, definitely over priced by much and definitely under performing, $ pro $ nothing out there beats Nissan leaf especially the 62 Watt battery model.
I Just picket up a 68 plate tekna for £12,650 in gun metal grey.
Leaf good car
We gonna lease a Nissan leaf 2021 model , 40 kwh later this year! We already made a test drive , and we love it! Also the E-pedal is amazing I didn't used the brake pedal
The way that a person intends to use their car must also be a major part of the selection and purchase of their next vehicle. I purchased the 2020 Leaf here in Australia to replace a Diesel Mazda BT-50. I just wasn't driving enough to warrant the expense of upkeep to keep the Diesel healthy and running well. To me the Leaf was the answer. Just about all my driving, since retirement, is short to medium trips. Mostly city driving with a little free-way use. The Leaf EV is perfect for this. Cheap to charge, mostly at home, low maintenance and comfortable to drive. It cost me $42,000 which here is equivalent to a mid-range ICE SUV and a lot cheaper than the Hyundai EV's.
Neil W
Thanks for sharing your experience TheNWPerry. I had to look up what a Mazda BT-50 was. It's a good looking truck! It's a great price you paid for a solid, reliable EV. Glad to hear that you're enjoying the LEAF.
I'm buying a Nissan Leaf later this year. Thank you for your valuable information.
Great video, Im tomorrow going to check 2019 Leaf to dealership. This video is motivating.
My Nissan Leaf SV Plus came with a 20 year 200K mi Powertrain warranty. I feel for the price I am paying, monthly payment that is a REALLY good deal and peace of mind.
"I Own a 2019 Leaf SV, Its Quite Sturdy, Quick, FUN TO DRIVE
Traded my PHEV (2.5 years old) for a new standard 2020 Leaf. With Leaf incentives and future repair costs due on my PHEV (4 new tires, oil change, and registration), I actually gained about 500 dollars trading in my used car for a new Leaf. My total cost on the Leaf after incentives including TTL and full 4-year powertrain warranty (regular only covers defects) was about 19K.
I don't really need the range and we can use my wife's SUV for longer trips or I can rent a car if needed on Turo or with a rental company fairly cheaply. I don't drive enough or take enough road trips to need more than 200 miles range.
Thanks for sharing. You did a smart thing. How are you liking the new Leaf?
@@carsavvy4764 Excellent so far!
Really like my S Plus. Great deal for an EV and is very reliable.
I m just starting to research EV’s. Thanks for the good info. Just me...Buying local = Convenience. Too bad Tesla is not closer.
Very good review!
Thank you!
I've had the Leaf Tekna 62 Kwh for 8 months and now will never go back to an ICE car.
ice?
Nissan leaf's have driven across africa
At the moment here in Canada, dealers are selling them above MSRP
I just saw a video before this one where a guy paid 3,800k for a 2011 model. It was in excellent condition!
Great deal.
Just bought a 19 SL Plus with an insane deal. $23k otd after incentives. Ridiculous bang for the buck.
Wow. That's a steal! Great buy on a loaded LEAF Plus. How're you liking it so far?
@@carsavvy4764 It's nice, still getting settled in. We have had a 2013 LEAF for the past three years so a lot is familiar.
@@pioneer7777777 Congrats and thanks for sharing.
@@carsavvy4764 I plan on adding a Comma Two system onto our LEAF. Looking forward to testing it out. I think that makes the value proposition even more appealing when you add in a top rated driver assist system. Will see how it goes and maybe make a new channel with some videos.
@@pioneer7777777 Awesome. I'll definitely watch your content. Good luck.
Well explained💪🏻💪🏻
The Tesla Model 3 SR+ can only charge at 170 kw not 250 kw as you said. That is under ideal conditions and only till about 50% state of charge. We have owned an SR+ for 2 years,My biggest complaint is the constant software updates(Almost as bad as a Windows computer) 2nd complaint is outer drivers want to constantly race you especially people who have high end cars like Mercedes/BMW.
I agree, the Leaf in our market is number one of all EV sold here in NZ as we can get Japanese and UK imports at a much lower cost than new. With a Kona EV costing NZ$80k vs around NZ$60k for an almost new 62kwh Nissan Leaf ex Japan.
Thanks Greg for your info regarding NZ. That's a no brainer to buy the nearly new LEAF for NZ$20k less than the Kona EV. It seems that the Kona costs more in NZ even accounting for exchange rates. Is that true for most vehicles in NZ?
@@carsavvy4764 Well a ICE Kona starts at NZ$32,000 for a base model vs NZ$77,000 for the base EV Kona. Or more that 2x the price. A brand new base model Tesla Model 3 is only $4000 at NZ$81,000 so if you want a fast EV with 150kw superchargers vs 50kw chargers for all non Tesla. If you want to take your chances on getting a Model 3 that was put together correctly then Tesla in my country is the way to go. However we brought our Leaf for city use only so it is perfect for our use..
@@carsavvy4764 Of course if Tesla ever gets their act together and start selling the Chinese made Model 3 in our market they would sell a lot more as not only are the Chinese made Model 3 much better put together and also much more reliable than the US made cars we have a solid free trade agreement with China meaning they could possibly be the cheapest sold EV in our country!
@@gregandkaruna6674 Thank you for the detailed info on NZ pricing of EVs.
@@gregandkaruna6674 Tesla is learning on the fly how to mass produce cars and a the buyers are the beta testers.
China is in position to be a dominant player in EVs since they've invested so much money and time in battery technology and autonomous driving.
I luv the leaf
Battery overheats like crazy in summer since it's not cooled. If they fix that issue, give it a longer range closer to 300, and lose the Chademo, I'd consider buying it. Otherwise, buy the Kona EV, the Ford Mach-E or the Tesla Model 3.
Good points. Although I would skip the Kona EV since they've had so many fires in Korea that they've pulled it off the market.
@@carsavvy4764 I wonder if the 2020 Nissan Leaf S Plus would actually charge from almost empty to full in 11 hours, when it's 85 degrees outside at night? (this is very common for a lot of the SouthWest from MidMay to Early September) would the outside ambient temperature really slow down the charging speed in this case?
Good luck with chademo in next decade
It's highly likely that charging stations would want to maximize their income by having both CCS and CHAdeMO since so many LEAFs have been sold.
One thing that would help is if Nissan created a CCS to Chademo adapter. That would help greatly on longer trips.
I agree. Since Nissan is going to CCS with the upcoming Ariya, they need to come up with an adapter to give Leaf owners/buyers a peace of mind.
What about the Chevy bolt? The 2017 model gets you more miles with used ones at ~13k
Bolt is a great EV. Used non-Tesla EVs depreciate so much that they are great buys.
I agree, 2017 Chevy Bolt EV is a great value, which I talk about on my channel. We did test drive the 2018 LEAF and it's a good car with good features if you are okay with less range.
IMHO not nearly as comfortable as the Leaf. It's not said often enough but the Leaf is very comfortable with a quality ride experience. It's no high end Mercedes but you can easily spend several hours behind the wheel and not feel fatigued in the least. As well, it's certainly no sports car. But for what's essentially a commuter car, its acceleration and handling characteristics will impress you. It's real winning point is it's reliability. Without the liquid cooling system for the battery pack this EV is extremely simple. There's little to go wrong with them and little does. The only complaint I'm aware of is that of premature capacity loss for vehicles registered in very hot climates (like Arizona and other southwestern states). However, if frequent use of high power HVDC charging isn't required (for most commuter applications charging at home is usually all that is needed), and if they are not operated in states that frequently experience extreme heat (above 100F), there shouldn't be any issues with these battery packs. There's plenty of anecdotal and empirical evidence to back this up. Something else to consider: The Nissan Leaf recently won the Kelley Blue Book's 5-year Cost-to-Own Award.
www.motorbiscuit.com/the-nissan-leaf-won-kelly-blue-books-2020-5-year-cost-to-own-award/
Tesla = Lowest quality most dangerous always exploding fire hazards on the roads... (most common EV to have battery fires and major design flaws)
LEAF = BEST EV for; build quality, Safety (only EV to never have a battery fire) value, looks and styling, sexiness, quietness, type of EV, most practical EV, most advanced JAPANESE TECH
With the CCS to CHAdeMO adaptor now available the LEAF can use more public fast chargers than any EV with only CCS
its not. the bolt has longer range and is the same price currently - 26k and it has battery cooling. no battery cooling makes the leaf useless on a road trip because it will reduce recharging from the decent 74kw down to under 30kw because of heat throttling. and long term the packs will die fast from the extra heat.
I am debating between the Nissan Leaf and KIA Niro EV. Which one should I get guys?
I prefer the Niro if it was the same price but real life pricing will be about $8000 to $10000 more for a comparable Niro vs the LEAF. I just don't think the NIRO is worth that much premium over the LEAF. Good luck.
The Niro is a bigger car, an suv honestly, while the Leaf is more of a hatchback, smaller for sure. Which suits you is a good first question.
@@brianw.4985 Consumer Reports recently removed the Niro EV from their recommended list due to poor reliability. Hopefully Kia will figure it out. www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/reliability-problems-plague-newer-electric-cars/
Test drive both to see which one you prefer. Think about charge rate, range, price and air cooling vs liquid cooling. Also think about the charging network and quick charge type whether CCS or Chademo if you'll need to do road trips or quick charge often.
@@carsavvy4764 I drove a Leaf SL Plus yesterday; the acceleration is a lot of fun, a serious torque party. I didn't get it largely because I do not yet have charging for a car at home.
The 64kwh is worth no more than a zoe. The chademo means most ppl will be stuck charging at sub 50kw and even with that, the car overheats.
Good video but quit ignoring kilometers ! if you are making videos for the world ???, most countries talk kilometers not old miles
What u pay is what u get
BYD will destroy Tesla.
Air cooled battery (roasts itself within a few years), Chademo is going away and thermal throttling…..hardly a value
Not very savvy, the Leaf does not get the federal tax credit.
Source? My research says that they still qualify, but maybe I'm working off old data.
@@lsh3rd you are right, I am wrong. Always willing to admit when I am wrong.
That is asuming you can even receive the full tax credit. I will only get 5500 because of my income. Kinda bs tbh, especially since the prices are somewhat inflated due to the tax credit.
Biden might change that in the up coming bill, I hope so. As much as 12500 for qualified cars.
@@lafayetteporter6044 in addition it would be a point of sale credit. I do qualify for $7500, but it would be nice to finance less. If I were to buy today, it would be the LEAF, but this might change depending on what passes. I might purchase an EV this year depending on a few factors.
Leaf is the worst EV out there, they still have battery degrade issues!
Buy a Bolt....