Samyang 50mm f1.4 II Photo + Video Review - Mixed feelings
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2021
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Hey everyone! Today we'll be checking out the Samyang 50mm f1.4 II for photo on the Sony A7IV and A7III and video on the A7sIII. Oh boy, I definitely have some mixed feelings for this lens as we test out the autofocus accuracy. Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
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I love how sweetly and calmly you explain every bit of info... Love your work ❤️
You really helped me out with this extraordinary review. You've touched a subject that is paramount for me regarding these lenses: AF! Thanks to you I'll be heading towards their 85mm f1.4 instead. Thank you once again and keep it up!
Julia, this is a wonderful review. Right into the deep grass. No unboxing or demo mode nonsense. Exactly what I needed to know and the descriptions of the mechanisms was very interesting. Ill take all your advice! Im really knocked out by your video of the viewfinder while shooting over your shoulder. great stuff!
Julia, I did end up purchasing this lens a few weeks ago, despite your excellent review and demonstrated concerns. While it was slower to find focus initially on each set up than my rokinon 85mm, it did lock autofocus after the initial 1-2 shot lag and I got 99% tack sharp on the iris images with both me and my model moving around a moderate amount, while she turned her head towards and away from the lens. I wasn't doing a real stress test like you do here or challenging myself as much - I am happy I made the purchase because of the relative cost of this lens vs the Sony 50mm GM. For me, its perfect and for the casual photographer its not a complete AVOID.
You continue to be my go-to creator on youtube for all things photography and I can't tell you how much I appreciate your excellent content.
@@heyricksander Samyang released a software upgrade about a month or so after this video was released. You may have benefitted from this upgrade. Current version, per Samyang's website, is 33.
every day i was searching for a REVIEW REGARDING THIS LENS..and here you are...ty
Hi! I am not interested in that lens but listening to you is such a pleasure that I watch every video you post :)
I like people like you, saying things honestly. Good review!!!
Great review as always! Thanks!
Thank you for including the A7III as well! not all of us will be able to upgrade to the A7IV all that quickly, so I think it's still relevant to keep it in the review videos.
Yes I agree! I will probably continue using both camera bodies to review third party lenses for the foreseeable future.
I love the photographer ❤️ 😻 especially her mona lisa smile 🥰 throws my heart out of the body 😂.
I hope the firmware will take care of this focus issue because this is the best choice of 50mm F1.4 lens to me in term of price, size, weight and quality.
I really hope so too! If Samyang are up for it I want to try a different copy of this lens or try it again once there is an update
I’m confused. If it has a massive focus issue then it’s absolutely lacking in quality so how is it the best choice? It’s a cheap 50/1.4. If budget is your primary concern then maybe you can live with a 1/10 hit rate.
Samyang lenses often tend to have a slight front or back focus. There are some few methods to test your lens here on RUclips. I was able to fix my 35mm with the Samyang lens station and now it works fine!
Edit: nevermind. I have just seen that you already mentioned this 😅
@@vinceedward9572 A lot of other reviewers did not find the focus issue to the same degree and all my other samyang lenses are performing fine for portrait and even some action - I've shot small birds with the 85mm 1.4 and it nailed the eye plenty of times. So I'm hoping this is just a fault of an early copy or can be remedied with firmware (as has been the case in the past with fx their 35mm)
It is light, well build, good price thats why it ll be the one for many people. I hope they ll fix this issue with firmware.
Great video! How are you seeing the back of your screen and still recording the focus point of the EVF?
Did you set the priority on AF-C to Focus, Shutter release or Balanced Emphasis?
Hi Julia! Help please. What is the name of the device under your camera that allows you to record the screen?
Great review Julia! I realy would love to see a comparison between the samyang 85 1.4 and the sigma dg dn 85 1.4. What do you think? And it is a shame about the af on this 50 mm couse it could have been perfect for me.
Hi, I just have one question, what is the gadget you are using to screen record the camera when your doing the shoot?
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Thanks for your honest review!
Nice honest review. Hope Samyang takes notice.
I've been waiting for a review of this lens for a while now. I was expecting for this to be like the 35 and 85, I guess I will keep my Zeiss 1.8.
Great video, and thank you for being honest. I really was expecting this lens to be good in AF. Sigma should drop a new 50mm in my opinion. What is your opinion on Sigma's bokeh and general rendering if you don't mind me asking?
I'm curious to know how the af performs without the front curtain activated which cause a slight latency.
Front curtains doesn't help.
I always noticed your audio sounds amazing. What are you using?
Great video !!! How are you recording the camera screen at the same time while taking pictures ?
Have you tried using it on golden hour? The weather looks cloudy and not too bright. Also maybe stepping down to f2 just as a comparison if it would make sense to see the hit rate vs at f1.4.
Also, a 50mm lens comparison would be good as well. Take the 50 1.2gm or 1.4 planar or even the 55mm zeiss. Even if just for the hit rate since the topic mostly discussed is about the AF hit or miss.
It's fascinating to realize that I approach the idea of focus very differently from, I suppose, a lot of other photographers. I exclusively use manual focus lenses, and "in focus" for me is quite a broad range. So I thought every photo you showed was actually spot on. I totally see what you're saying, but it's just funny to realize how two photographers can feel so differently about such a key idea.
Yep I agree! To be honest depending on the $ of the lens, I also have my own opinion on what is considered sharp/good focus accuracy as I understand a more budget lens is not going to focus the same as GM glass. But yeah this right here is another reason I like to share as many unedited photos as possible in my videos. I share my opinions, but you also get to look at the footage to decide if it’s good enough for you.
I can totally get behind this 😂
I shoot MF all the time, both in daylight, studio light, and low light 😎
I've formed the opinion that i would only need AF for vlog and/or talking head video
So you buy lenses in the thousands and shoot MF with it or do you use MF on cheap lenses? Good luck shooting manual focus on high paced use cases like weddings and events.
@@papsny I would say that is a bit of an overgeneralized, straw-man argument, but I can definitely understand where you're coming from. 👌🏻
What I'd say in response is:
Doing one's due diligence and research on which lenses are good and which lenses are bad - inclusive of both AF and MF lenses; purchase/rent/borrow/bring the correct lens(es) and/or equipment based-on the needs of the shoot.
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Some shoots needs AF; some shoots don't need AF.
Some shoots need wide apertures; some shoots don't need wide apertures.
Some lenses and/or bodies struggle with AF in low light - at which point you'd be forced to use MF mode; some lenses and/or bodies don't struggle with AF in low light. (I shoot low-light photo and video ALOT, and I find that AF can be too unpredictable and hit-or-miss in many of those situations)
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As for weddings and/or events, it simply comes down to lens choice and event type. Sports photography and bird photography could definitely benefit from a good AF lens, but I still don't think it's 100% necessary.
For example, I'm sure any well-informed photographer would decide against using a 50mm F1.8 or F1.4 or F1.2 or F0.95 in these situations - regardless of whether it's MF or AF.
Yes, they'd get good Bokeh and/or background separation, but, I'm sure you know, they'd absolutely interrupt the event with how close they'd be standing.
Instead, they'd probably want to use an 85mm, 135mm, 150mm, 200mm, 300mm, or 500mm to get further away from the action as to avoid any physical interaction.
At those focal lengths, you can still get amazing Bokeh and/or background separation even from F2.0 to F8.0 depending on the focal length and the subject's distance from the background behind them, and, of course, if you're shooting that narrow of an aperture, depth-of-field is more forgiving, sharpness increases, and vignetting and/or chromatic distortions decrease. You wouldn't need AF at these apertures.
As for the exposure triangle, we can compensate with shutter speed and/or, ISO (if not on all bodies, at least on newer bodies like the a7iv with features like Dual Native ISO).
Alternatively, if they're simply shooting just the pre-wedding/pre-event photos, then any focal length and aperture combination is fair game. 👍🏻
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I own both AF and MF lenses, but I only find myself using AF lenses when I really, really need it. To add, when I first started shooting, it was strictly with AF lenses, but, in attempting low-light photo and video, it struggled so much. I tried switching to MF mode on these AF lenses, but these electronic MF modes lacked a lot of tactility and responsiveness - leaving me frequently frustrated.
Eventually, I decided to take it into my own hands and invest in some good MF Potrait/Tele glass (only after having an epiphany/breakthrough following a good experience from buying ultra-wide MF lenses for real-estate photo/video).
Focusing in MF with a real, tactile, MF lens becomes fast and second-nature (with the caveat being as long as you use the viewfinder and Peaking assist).
TBH, I now sometimes feel more optimistic I can get the compositions I want - knowing that I can carrying more MF lenses for the same weight and performance as only an even fewer amount of AF lenses.
Additionally, some MF lenses and body combinations are legitimately just awesome to experience.
The SAMYANG 85mm F1.4 MF (SONY) definitely claps. I shoot wide-open both high-light and low-light. I am, however, also considering to purchase the AF version (CANON) because I want the optical stabilization and XMF information to be automatically populated rather than manually-inputted, and I want the ability to use rear-of-lens CPLs and/or VNDs.
I've recently purchased a superb condition, Soviet Union MC Helios 77 M4 50mm F1.8 with an M42 to EF adapter and an AF confirmation chip for only $155 US - the swirly Bokeh is a cool novelty, and, combined with a blue streak filter, it emulates the anamorphic look incredibly well.
I've also dived-down deep into the rabbit hole recently with industrial lenses and CCTV lenses. I have a modified Insta360 ONE R 4K Module (1/2.3" Sensor) that accepts M12, C, and CS mount lenses.
I've found so many interesting but, nevertheless, capable lenses ranging from 5g to 300g, with focal lengths anywhere from ultra-wide to ultra-telephoto Full Frame equivalents, some with crazy-wide apertures like F0.95 (which is like F5.0 or F6.0 Full-frame Bokeh but still the exposure of F0.95 lowlight). Many are advertising and actually performing with great sharpness, low spatial distortion, and low chromatic distortions.
The kicker is that most of these lenses are dirt cheap - $5 to $40 USD for prime lenses ($10 USD on average) and $10 to $120 USD for Zoom lenses. 🔥
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I'm not claiming that MF is the only choice or the "correct choice". I'm just saying that there are pros and cons to both - whether it be necessity, pragmatism, or, even, novelty. 😎
Thanks for this review... How do you record your camera screen like that without a monitor?
Thanks for your honesty and great video review! Been waiting on the 50mm 1.4 ii. Hopefully the focus issues could be improved with a firmware upgrade. Will stick with the 45 1.8 for now.
Are the 45 1.8 are great? Or just ok? The autofocus and the color etc..
I really really appreciate your honesty in gear reviews like this Julia. Thanks a lot!
I was really exited for this lens too since I would love to have a 50 1.4 or faster but the 50 1.2 GM is too much for my situation.
Guess I’ll have to wait for a mark 3 or Tamron has to surprise us.
The Sigma 50mm F1.4 it’s such an amazing lens! You should take a look at it
@@alexceja5930 This lens is too slow to shoot playing kids. So, i am waiting for the new sigma 50mm 1.4 dg dn. The sony 50mm 1.2 is too heavy and too expensive.
50 1.2 GM no brainer if you make a money from shooting
Thank you. Yeah me too, we really need more 50mm options imo! I’ll have to try out the sigma one soon to make a video
@@alexceja5930 isn't the sigma 50mm crop sensor?
Thanks for this video! very useful for me :)
Hey Julia how are you? I been meaning to ask you what is the name of the device connected to the bottom of your camera that you use to record the EVF?
Great video thanks! Are you using a battery pack?
Samyang have come a long way since the early manual focus stuff in the early years .You should try the 45mm f1.8 I think you will like it.
Hi, Julia! How are you recording your A7iv? What are you holding beneath your camera? Thank you!
Can you please tell me what type of device is used to capture images from a camera in real time?
As in the last video in the lower right or left corner
Maybe this type of device Wireless Video Transmission Systems?
And the video stream was recorded on an IOS/ANDROID device?
Is there any update from samyang yet? I hope the focusing issue can be fixed with firmware upates.
What did you use to record your camera screen?
I recently bought this lens and found it produces really wonderful images and has ok autofocus. Autofocus is very accurate but It does get odd misses occasionally and struggles noticeable with wide open shooting with close subjects that are moving. Medium distant subjects it can actually track rather well. I don’t think the af is horrible but for close up portraits of anything moving such as children, there’s gonna be some misses. More hits than misses but if you are accustomed to any good focusing glass it’s going to be somewhat annoying. I got mine from rokinon direct for $449 which makes the af issues somewhat bearable. Other issue with af is that in stills mode it is quiet but makes a noticeable clicking noise /vibration when focusing and holding focus. It sounds like a hard drive softly clicking. Never had a modern lens sound like this and it makes the af experience a bit clunky. My Samyang 135mm 1.8 doesn’t do this. I’ve never been so torn with a lens because the images are really nice and the price is right on sale but the lens comes with more compromises than I prefer.
I wonder if its solely to do with the motor being slow/inconsistent? I have a zeiss 55 1.8 which has the same type of motor, and I had a recent shoot where the camera followed the eye but ended up being focused on the eyebrow or other area of the face. The results looked a lot like this shoot. I was shooting on an a7iv too! I suspect the motor speed might not be fast enough to keep up with the a7iv's new quick focusing system. Additionally, i suspect that the stabilisation can sometimes have a detriment on the picture at very high shutter speeds (all mine were 1/3200 or above). id love to know your thoughts...
My guess is the "testing/review" done isn't going to answer your question. Waiting on more specific testing on the a7iv myself to know what to make of the upgrades. Also, firmware on both pieces of equipment in this video are definitely in early stages so who knows what we see as bad lens/firmware/camera body.
Also you're right, some would say to turn off IBIS at those high shutter speeds.
What do you use for recording the view finder?
fantastic! what tool do you use for sony screen sharing?
What is your thought on Samyang 45mm 1.8 focus speed, is it faster than this new 50mm f1.4 II ?
Here's hoping a firmware update in a couple of weeks fixes the focus issues - I find all my tiny samyang lenses (and the 85mm) really nail focus on the eye every time.
The rendering is so nice, it's a shame about the firmware. Is there any update on this or is it still the same?
Great vid!
Hi, thanks for your review. I wanted to ask you how did you manage to edit the a7iv raw files??? Since last release of lightroom doesn't recognize its raw files yet. Thanks
Thanks! The raws are available in Lightroom now if you update. At the time of making this video though it wasn’t, so I just shoot and edit jpg files.
I wonder if it’s another Samyang QC thing as I’ve just received my copy and so far it’s nailed the eye every time using the A9-II with AF-C BBF? My copy also doesn’t even show a hint of decentering which again is very hit and miss with Samyang. It’s a bit of a lottery buying their lenses but if you get a good one they render beautifully.
50mm 1.2 Sony vs samyang 50 1.4 which one is good
nice one ! i wonder if the autofocus is not an issue from the A7IV . Many report about it on the weeeeb.
Thank you for the excellent review. It's a shame this lens doesn't focus fast enough. This price point for a lens like this needs filling. I'm hoping sigma can make something, but looking at their previous 50mm i dont think it will be as affordable.
great video Julia, i have read some bad reviews aboult some Samyang lenses in the past , i would give them a miss........
Julia , did you update the firmware before taking these pictures? I have owned this lens for few months now and I have ZERO issues with AF or any other issues .
Hi pierre , may I check with you what version you upgraded the firmware to that resolved the firmware issue ?
Hey Julia! What full-frame body and lenses would you recommend for someone still trying to grow their wedding business(aka modest budget)?
Maybe Sony a7C and a decent 50mm glass
I don't know how you're so patient with all these people critiquing you without even watching the video. Hundreds of comments from people who suggest you do exactly what you did in the video lol. Your work is stellar with no focus issues using other lenses. You use this lens, focus issues. Sooooo... lens is obviously the problem.
Solid review, though. I really wanted to get this lens, but I don't think they've got F1.4 down yet. Guess I'll go for the 55/1.8 ZA- tried and true. Unless Sigma surprises us all with the 50/1.4 DG DN that's gotta be coming.
Haha it is what it is here on RUclips, you get used to it :P Glad you enjoyed the review, thank you! The ZA 55 is a beautiful lens, I love it. I also have a video with the Sigma 35mm f1.4 DG DN too!
Compare with Zeiss 50 1.4 Which one is better??
gald you point that out， almost buying it
I just got this lens and I havre to say, I think they might have listened and addressed this issue. Don't take my word for it, there are tons of other more recent reviews where they find the keeper rate to be way better. Plus AF in low light doesn't seem to be a problem anymore. I have nothing to gain from this, I just thought I'd share in case someone stumbles across this who is contemplating buying this amazing lens. cheers!
This seems a continued challenge with Samyang lenses: if one can get a good copy, firmware is updated, and so forth, they are excellent value for money, but if not... alas.
The current software version for this lens, per Samyang's website. Note that the date is after this video was released.
Version 33
Date 2020-02-17
Details - Improved compatibilities for A7M3, A7R3
- Improved AF-S, AF-C performance
Could be they got it sorted out better.
How did you record your camera screen?
I have had the lens for a couple of weeks now and had similar autofocus issues at first. For me it was vastly improved when I set the AF sensitivity to 5 (on A7R IIIa), which is the highest setting available. Now it's fine for my purposes, including an erratically moving baby in low light. Still probably a native lens would have better performance here.
I thinks it is complaining on a very high level. It is expected to beat the native Sony lens at the fraction of the price.
At $400 can't expect the world
I have an old samyang 50mm f1.4. Its autofocus is really bad on my a7r2. After switching AF mode from AFS to AFC, its perfomance becomes better. I think II is the same.
I had mine set to 5 responsive as well. Also just to get back to some of these other comments, I understand this isn’t an expensive, high end lens. When I review more affordable lenses I review them in relativity to the price. I’ve uploaded plenty of affordable lens reviews where there are some missed focus photos but it’s still a good ratio. This lens was a very different experience for me in terms of that vs other lenses in a similar price range.
Hey Julia, I just took some test shots outside yesterday. I was being very nitpicky about critical focus and found that focus missed 5 out of 60 times, which I consider absolutely acceptable for a second party lens. Maybe you got a bad copy in some way? I have read online that Samyangs QC isn't supposed to be the best. Thanks for your review(s) though, I always enjoy watching them!
I definitely think you got a bad copy. I picked one up and it is dead accurate just like my Samyang 85 mm and 35 mm F1.4. I tested mine out on a ballerina and using HSS and she was doing jump splits and twists it nailed focus 95% of the photos using my a9 and a7riv. I love this lens. I don’t do video so I can’t say anything about that but I am really impressed with it. Try another copy
I have the 35mm and love it so when I decided to look in to 50's I REALLY wanted to check this out... however looks like I'll have to pass. For what its worth, other reviewers had the same things to say about the AF so.... saving up for the Sigma Art I guess. You do great work, thanks!!
I have the 35 and 85 and was waiting on shelling out $800. I’ve seen good and bad reviews. Still gonna wait for this to mete out reliability. Thanks.
Yeah, Please do the comparison!!
What 50mm f1.4 do I buy? What's your overall favorite?
Could the focus issues have been due to the need for Sony's firmware update that came out after this was made/
Finally somebody to test this lens :). I am very curious about the version I vs II comparison because I have some expectations now. Also I am very disappointed about the AF of the new one. When I tested the Samyang 45 1.8 I thought - OMG they finally did it and all newer lenses will be able to focus but ... turns out that is not the case.
The old 50 1.4 which I own for a long time now has this hunting problem with the newer cameras like A7III and A7rIII that started from 2.0 firmware of the cameras. It makes the AF a 50:50 game. Before that - it worked perfectly. I use it only on my old A7rII because the AF there works flawlessly.
Something else that I noticed in this video, you mentioned that it is harder to focus with those lenses wide open, my experience is different. A7III and A7rIII has difficulties when I focus closed down especially in low light. And the Samyang 50 1.4 AF ver 1 was making it worse because the aperture was slow and it was not able to close down fast enough creating even one more problem - not consistent exposure.
I just received the Rokinon version of this lens and the focus is slower than my Sony lenses on the A7SIII but on the Sony A1 and A9 it is just as fast as the Sony lenses.
It’s like going back to the DSLR days lol!
yeah, i am very disappointed.
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Interesting! I recently ordered this lens for my A7IV which is my first full frame and noticed the same things. Auto focus is hit or miss. When it works it takes really good photos when it doesn’t it can be annoying especially for its price. The focus being slow is also something I noticed in video, it’s trying to be cinematic and reduce focus breathing but sometimes you just want that quick focus and it never gives it to you.
Now I’m considering returning it for the zeiss 55mm 1.8 which you can now get for the same price as this Samyang lens
Can you make a video comparing them both ?
Have you tried updating the firmware? Thinking to buy this lens and thinking it might be an issue with early firmware
@@ficklampa There wasn’t a firmware update available when I got it but updating the firmware would mean buying a dock which is like 70 euro here to do so. If I buy a lens I expect it work out of the box and not have to pay for an accessory to download a firmware update. Just a waste of time and money. I ended up exchanging the samyang lens for the zeiss and it’s amazing, photos are much sharper than the Samyang, bokeh is great, autofocus is consistent and fast, it’s smaller and lighter and you can get it second hand for much cheaper than the Samyang or the same price if you buy it brand new. I highly recommend it if you don’t have one already.
@@VictorAjayi Alright, that makes sense. I assumed you could also update it via the camera body since I think Sigma does that? But I was wrong - so my bad there. Sadly the Zeiss lens is not weather sealed which is one of the reasons why I was eyeing this Samyang lens. I guess I have to rethink my options. :(
Thx for posting. I like your style of reviewing, which is and should not be very distinctive 👌whereas the viewer is able to assess his/hers own specs requirements
Apologies, I meant to write”which is and should be very distinctive”
Had high hopes for this lens. The ver1 was a disappointment and was really hoping for a decent 50mm 1.4 ver2. Their tiny lens series is what i am a fan of, especially their 45mm 1.8 which is better and has more character. You would think that they would have it sorted by now. Their 85mm 1.4 is great and would be their best lens imo. Wishing their 35 1.4 ver2 wouldn't be a disappointment.
Thanks for the review and great video/work as always.
What was wrong with V1? AF was loud, but that's about it.
Let's go Samyang!!!
The quest for a good entry level 50mm continues 😔
Please julia more of that samyang 85 🙌
So I’m guessing stick to the Version 1?
I bought lens station and set AF to -1. Now every photo is very good.
I was so excited for this. I’ll have to wait. On another note, I have an a7c and I’m wondering if the fact that the A7IV has more megapixels in that sensor affect with low light performance. I shoot indoors a lot and wondered if the bigger pixels of the a7c will give it an edge in that regard. Trying to decide if the 33 megapixels are worth the upgrade or not? I like that extra info for cropping purposes of course 😁
Difference is not going to be huge but A7iv seems to have dual iso at 3200 and cleans up nicely. Should be better than A7C
In my A7IV review video I have a low light example towards the end of the video if you wanted to see some examples!
@@juliatrotti thanks for the reply! Would you say the extra bulk of the A7IV is worth it or stick with the lighter set up of the a7c
@@pearsbears If you mainly take photos, the A7C with a set of small primes is hard to beat. The better upgrade path for a photographer would be an A7RIV with fast and sharp primes so you can crop in for more reach. If you shoot photo and video equally, the 10 bit video and upgraded AF of the A7IV are nice to have, and it will balance better with professional zooms. The difference in crop ability between 24 and 33 mega pixels isn't significant.
@@mrmonday42 also that $900 difference would buy some nice primes.
Damn, I just ordered the lens. 😢 Hopefully it will not affect my photography much or it's getting fixed with an firmware update. Although you're the first reviewer in YT mentioning these problems, I guess it might really depend on a photographer will this be an issue or not.
Have you tried the lens with A7C?
Mostlikely it will be an update fix since its new.
feel like it does worse when the setting is darker.
@@remicasallena Yeah I noticed the same! On wider apertures the focus works way better than in smaller ones. They really need to do something to solve this.
I am user sony.. Sory give one preset please.. And setting PP for a7iii
Use in wedding Photography ?
Sooo I bought the 50 1.4 II and after serious testing the older version and the Zeiss 55 1.8 went to the market :). It is better than both.
Damn, I was quietly interested in this lens too
I started with rokinon 50mm first version, then 35mm and 14mm, suddenly comparing pictures with the 35 noticed the autofocus issue with the 50, last year started replacing with sigma art, and never will go back to samyang.
I should of listened to you. I bought it and had the same feelings towards it. Could it get the job done, sure with extra processing at the back end. I returned it. For the price it should be better. I have their AF 35mm 1.4 and it performs better at almost half the cost. Part I really dislike, I put an honest review on Amazon and they will not approve. Now I know why you can't find any reviews on this lens.
u have any tutorial how u record ur camera screen? looks interesant
I have a feeling that the focus accuracy might be more related to the camera (specifically a7iv) than the lens. My business partner has had 4 copies of the a7iv and has been having problems with the focus accuracy even on native lenses. Images are noticeably soft. We tested each of the the a7iv’s against my 2 a7iii’s and a7siii and the focus accuracy was much more accurate on the a7iii and a7siii. I think there is a problem with the A7iv eye auto focus that hasn’t been very widely reported on. Sony has not had the greatest response in our attempts to address the issue with support. Any one else have similar findings?
I haven’t had any focus issues with either of my a7IVs so far. I just uploaded my DSLR vs mirrorless shoot and you can see with my GM 35 focus is tack sharp on the eyes. I also uploaded my best autofocus settings for the A7IV, maybe you could check that out to make sure you have them set up in the right way for your workflow?
I got this lens 2 days ago, this is the best lens I’ve ever had from samyang, I have samyang af 14 35 and 85, and this one. I watched your video before I order this 50, I’m thinking i gonna give it a try, the first thing i tested is the focus accuracy and the results is damn goood!!! Fast and accurate sooo quiet and the quality of images looks sony 24 1.4 glass. I’m happy with this lens save a lot of money compare to sony 50 1.2, maybe you got a bad copy. I’m pretty love this lens so much❤️
Your lucky my copy is bad never focus on the eye exactly like Julia so I returned it
@@denis5850 yes that’s the problem with Samyang their quality control was not so good, i remember my 85 1.4 the first one i got was bad also not sharp so I returned it then got different copy then test it out the result it’s sharp, so I keep it.
Thanks for the video, but at 1.4 it seems "normal" that the iris would not always be in focus right? You would say on a Sony at 1.4 the iris would be more in focus? Such a shallow depth of field to nail the iris...?
Check out the majority of my other videos on f1.2/1.8 primes. Very easy to have tack sharp photos on the iris normally and parts of the face at the same time too.
@@juliatrotti Good to know, Thanks!
Shooting at 1.4 and complaining about shots not being in focus? The margin for error is so tight, I get a lot of photos on my gm 85mm 1.4 out of focus too, if shooting at 1.4.
Thank you, excellent!
My new Sony 24-70mm GMII had the same focus issue
How are you? Julia. personally, I still prefer the 50GM 1.2 when come to 50mm. However, I never used the 135mm for shooting. Samyang got its 135mm 1.4 today. if possible, will you able to do a quick video about it? Thx :)
I'm still using my Zeiss 50mm f1.4 which is a great lens.. although sometimes I am tempted to get the GM version. But I haven't completely made up my mind yet haha. Yes, I will be making a review on the Samyang 135mm, just waiting for it to arrive in Australia so I can borrow it :)
@@juliatrotti thx :D
Is it possible that maybe it's the A7IV? I have seen in groups that i follow similar complaints about critical misses in eye AF and getting the brow or the eylashes instead in focus. With different lenses, not this particular one. I guess future firmware updates on the body and lens will show what was off.
I haven’t had any other eye af issues with both my A7IVs, used at different shoots with different lenses so far.
Maybe it was because her orbital ridge was prominent so it didn't focus on her eyes.
Af is 'close enough' haha I think that 1.4 is difficult as the focus range is so small. Hopefully they can improve it with software
Found images to be soft too?
Another great review Julia!!
And I have a question for fellow photographers (not this video related) who use Sony a7III:
I am about to buy a new lens and I am considering within this two:
- Sigma 35mm f1.4 Art which I know is a superb lens for me (I had a chance to rent it)
- Sony 18-35mm (A mount!) f1.8 + adapter
What do you guys think? Does anyone have any experiences with Sony A mount to E mount? How does it perform?
I like it because I can get it cheaper even with adapter and I like it because it's a zoom lens (very good wide range for concerts/events and food b-rolls). So... if you have experiences wit this particular one or A -> E mount.... help me ;) :D
Have a great day evereybody!
I assume you mean Sigma 18-35mm, which is an APS-C lens, not a full frame one. You'd only be using half your sensor.
@@acouragefann I see. Thank you for your answer! Wishing you a happy December!
I just got my copy yesterday and immediately used it for a wedding. I've had none of the issues in this video. Quality control problems, I guess?
Different AF setting I guess...
I got mine about 3 weeks ago and it’s really good. Just as good as my 35 & 85 f1.4 Samyang lenses. It must be the quality control not being as good for all the lenses. Because mine just focuses awesome. I took photos of a ballerina and use my Sony a9 and a7riv and it did great on both of my cameras. And the ballerina was moving all around jumping in the air. You don’t always have to shoot at F1.4 either. But using high speed sync and a fast enough shutter speed it work great. Yeah there might’ve been a couple missed focuses but I say at least 95% of my photos have been dead sharp
I hear noisy a little bit annoying when focusing?
Have you only had this problem with the a7iv? It may actually be the camera. The forums are starting to have reports of the a7iv having focus issues with certain lenses. The eye AF square shows that it is finding focus, but then on review in post it becomes obvious that the eyes were missed. It only seems to occur with certain lenses. The Zeiss 55 and Sony 200-600 have both demonstrated this issue on the a7iv. Sony might have a problem on their hands. I'm waiting to upgrade from my a7iii until this gets sorted, hopefully with a firmware update.
I used it on the A7iii in this video too, same issues.
@@juliatrotti oh ok sorry I forgot about that, thanks. I watched the video a couple weeks ago and didn't rewatch after hearing about the a7iv focus issues. Too bad the lens is a dud. Hopefully samyang will fix it in FW updates. They're pretty good with that.
The shooting location looks so lovely for photos! What country is this?
Thank you! Sydney, Australia
Great video as always. Maybe a bad copy
Maybe Samyang send a another copy
I have the version one. Not so fast but accurate
Seems totally unacceptable lens
I have all their auto focus lenses. And none inaccurate just vary in af speed
Hope Samyang aware of issue
Please keep us posted on what Samyang reply is
Hopefully they can fix this with a firmware update! But that shouldn’t be necessary, as no one wants to pay hundreds for a lens that launches with essentially beta software 😬
Fortunately, most cameras costing 3-10x as much launch the same way, so they're a matching pair!