FSD 12.5.4.2 in Downtown Chicago - After Testing for 1 Week - The Truth is Revealed

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @msbgone
    @msbgone 2 месяца назад +5

    I used FSD v12.5.4.2 and it pulled into my companies street with no problem, 4.1 is stopped going in, so I have seen an improvement.. I also called it over in my parking lot to pick us up. Everyone was very impressed! Great Vid!

  • @matty8920
    @matty8920 2 месяца назад +6

    Really quality FSD content right there. Enjoyed every minute.

  • @realdeal6214
    @realdeal6214 2 месяца назад +3

    Fantastic video as usual. Beyond the superb FSD testing & analysis, the production is high-end professional level. Bravo!

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@realdeal6214 thank you so much. I invest insane amounts of time (more than I’d like to admit!) into these videos, so your feedback means a lot to me. 🫶

  • @rvboondocker2559
    @rvboondocker2559 2 месяца назад +6

    John, I agree with you that I have not noticed any improvement with this .2 version but only regressions. I am even getting phantom turn signals. I am also getting the hard breaking anxiety from the car. That is something they had overcome in the past, but it seems to be kind of returning.

  • @RonnieDenburg
    @RonnieDenburg 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for your videos, and in particular your mentioning the green light problem with 12.5.6.2. Within my first 2 minutes driving on this version (with HW3) it “freaked out” entering the intersection when there were no other cars! I fear HW3 will never be able to handle the new versions of FSD, and that HW3 won’t be updated for 2+ years to come, if ever. And it’s incredibly frustrating knowing HW4 users have a better functioning version when I paid a lot of money for FSD and it’ll never be able to achieve what was promised.
    Plus the green light problem is dangerous if a car behind you is speeding up to make the light!

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@RonnieDenburg yes, true. We have to hold out hope for HW3.

  • @bderoes
    @bderoes 2 месяца назад

    I have 2024 Model Y, HW4, and got this update this week. Glad I watched your video before my first drive, because it definitely had a lane selection problem: freeway offramp with 2 forks, it signaled left, moved right but should have just moved forward on the left fork without signaling. (On the prior versions, it signaled right as though taking the right fork, but moved forward correctly.)
    Thanks for your hard work. That "rear view mirror" cam looks like a lot of extra effort.

  • @johnlabernik4599
    @johnlabernik4599 29 дней назад

    I totally agree that there needs to be a way to indicate when you are happy or impressed with a move the car made.

  • @trancendedmindpalace
    @trancendedmindpalace 2 месяца назад +2

    The answer to what happens @8:30 is that it mis judged the placement of those cones/barriers at the corner of the off ramp. It saw them as blocking the exit and they even show up in black on the screen for a moment.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад +1

      @@trancendedmindpalace you are right! I only noticed after I posted it. Good eye. 👁️ I have a feeling that a lot of people are going to mention this.

  • @Wormf16
    @Wormf16 2 месяца назад +2

    Great job John! Love your content!

  • @Dave-ei7kk
    @Dave-ei7kk 2 месяца назад +2

    Downtown Chicago is definitely a serious stress test. I used to have customers in Chicagoland and regional company headquarters on S. Wacker. So I’ve had experience with rental cars on those roads. And I hated it. Toward the end of that job I gave up and took taxis or limos. Leave the driving to someone else.
    Because of all the bizarre road configurations and areas like lower Wacker where there is no GPS coverage I would say that if FSD can navigate that environment reliably then it’s good enough to drive almost anywhere in the US that I’ve been.
    One thing that holds it back is that I suspect that FSD training inputs are understandably skewed to favor CA and TX where the Tesla development teams are housed and where there are more Tesla’s in the road collecting driving data to be used in training.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@Dave-ei7kk I agree.

    • @jh-qb3yb
      @jh-qb3yb Месяц назад

      This isn't true cuz up here north in Vancouver dt, it just drove me back home all the way from a hotel in busy downtown to my home that is about 40km away just today ... Literally zero intervention with hands- free 12.5.4.2 hw3 from point a to point b...Rush hour traffic with many edge cases along the way including but not limited to having to maneuver around parked car with hazard light on safely multiple times, having to thread the needle between cars, between pedestrians, between cyclists & cars, between cyclists & pedestrians, construction zones not one but many .. But yea random phantom braking n late lane selection still seem to be the issue

    • @Dave-ei7kk
      @Dave-ei7kk Месяц назад

      @@jh-qb3yb What is the “this” that isn’t true? Have you ever driven in downtown Chicago?

    • @jh-qb3yb
      @jh-qb3yb Месяц назад

      @@Dave-ei7kk it is because you are assuming that performance of the fsd somehow correlates to where there are more data like in Cali or TX.. Unless you worked for them let's say you or this RUclipsr or anyone here don't know poop about whether they correlate or not.

    • @Dave-ei7kk
      @Dave-ei7kk Месяц назад

      @ And you, of course we should listen to because you are a high level Tesla employee with access to the FSD development team?

  • @petecunningham47
    @petecunningham47 2 месяца назад +1

    I agree, John about needing a "good job!" button. The team needs to have feedback from testers when things work exceptionally well.

  • @DanielSzewczyk1
    @DanielSzewczyk1 2 месяца назад +1

    awesome video, thanks for all your work John!

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@DanielSzewczyk1 thank you! 🙏

  • @edntam4evr
    @edntam4evr 2 месяца назад

    I grew up in Chicago I live in the suburbs now and I physically can't drive anymore so I love these videos. Thank you so much

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@edntam4evr very cool. 👊 Sorry to hear you can’t physically drive anymore. My thoughts and best wishes go out to you. 🫶 Many thanks for watching my videos. 🙏

  • @goldviper5280
    @goldviper5280 2 месяца назад

    I have a MYP 2023 AI3. I just got v12.5.4.2 and it works ok in the Phoenix East Valley. Your video is nail biting. I was nervous wreck watching this video. You sir are a brave soul.

  • @TheRobertlonski
    @TheRobertlonski 2 месяца назад +2

    Excellent video -- Downtown Chicago is certainly an advanced driving environment.-- FSD handled it well but not perfectly. I was disappointed at the time in downtown where it seemed to start-driving erratically -- that is something a student-driver would certainly do. Hopefully you get some feedback from the AI Team regarding what happened there. I am also puzzled at the navigation miss-steps, I was hoping that Tesla would have had navigation nailed by this point.. There is a huge contrast between your videos and Omar's videos -- Why do you think that is the case? I realize the road-system out West is newer and better designed but I don't think that accounts for the big variation. I live in Silicon Valley and do feel that in-general drivers are mire chill in California and make it easier for FSD.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@TheRobertlonski good question on why Omar’s videos seem so different. I think it’s related to more Tesla vehicles being located in that area. Higher density and more video training data.

  • @troydelgado1271
    @troydelgado1271 2 месяца назад

    7:42 In many jurisdictions, it is illegal to drive across gore point (triangular-shaped area marked by white lines) where lanes diverge or converge.

  • @remingtonsypro3160
    @remingtonsypro3160 2 месяца назад

    Nice video.. I just got this release. It is not turning on the road I live on. It's been doing this on these last 2 releases. Stopping at lights sometimes and flashing yellows late at night are stops like it doesn't know what to do. I have an exit for work it never does. It's one of those exits for the on and offs are close. Needs to do those tho.. I'm very happy with no hands that's awesome.. Thx for sharing I know they have to be a lot of work.. you put extra into it.. Thx 🇺🇸👍

  • @Martinmack333
    @Martinmack333 2 месяца назад +2

    "this drive has been very reliable for me..." FSD:"hold my beer"...😅😅

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад +2

      😂 Hahaha, love your sense of humor. I think that if I didn't disengage or intervene, it would have taken longer to get to where I was going, but it would have figured it out eventually. To me, this came off as a very reliable and safe experience, even though a couple of spots were certainly and undoubtedly underwhelming.

  • @brokenneck
    @brokenneck 2 месяца назад +9

    I'm not sure if I like this version. It doesn't think ahead and wants to get over at the last minute, making other cars think I'm an asshole. That does need to change.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад +1

      @@brokenneck yeah,, I can relate.

  • @TromboneAl
    @TromboneAl 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the summary and overview.

  • @importon
    @importon 2 месяца назад +2

    never-ending mystery regressions. how many super computers do they need to get it to go a set speed, like, you know, how cruise control does for the last 40 years

  • @Test6837
    @Test6837 2 месяца назад +1

    Look at the visualized busses at 16:32 O_o

  • @feedvid
    @feedvid 2 месяца назад

    Great video. 👍

  • @MrGaborseres
    @MrGaborseres 2 месяца назад

    Cool 😎 👍.... windy city was home for 34 years I miss all the good times we had there.
    Greetings from Florida 🌴 🌞 🌴

  • @AVerySmallTinyMinisculeH-bc1lv
    @AVerySmallTinyMinisculeH-bc1lv 2 месяца назад

    16:15 I hope Tesla never gets rid of the stretch sedans.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@AVerySmallTinyMinisculeH-bc1lv 😂

  • @alphadelta87
    @alphadelta87 2 месяца назад

    5:58 - it looks like it didn't see the bicyclist that was on the other side of the adjacent car. You can see as soon as it shows it on the screen visualizations, it has it pointed going across and then slamming the brakes before it corrects and resumes. Hard to get an idea of what you saw as the driver since we have the overhead view in the video. - edit - and of course you cover that right after lol. I get a little premature in writing comments. Don't mind me!
    8:45 - do you think it thought the lane was blocked? You can see that the cones are visualized as being in the path of the exit ramp, but then maybe it saw the cars continue through and corrected itself as "maybe those cones aren't actually in the way" lol.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад +1

      @@alphadelta87 (1) yeah, I experimented with both camera views to show in the final edit - the one from inside the car isn’t exactly representative of the front facing camera on the car. Also, it didn’t provide any extra insight in this case. It actually revealed the same timing of view with the cyclist. In this case, the cyclist was on an e-bike, so they were moving pretty quickly. (2) you are right! It saw the cones as an obstacle but quickly realized they weren’t in the way. I don’t think the lead cars gave it any extra intelligence.

  • @stevewoodyt
    @stevewoodyt 2 месяца назад

    .1 cut someone off turning left then at the next turn right it cut someone off such that I had to push the accelerator. I fear we might been hit had I not. It’s the first time it has done that. It has been very hesitant making turn from a stop. I’m waiting on .2 to install now.

  • @brad_Ca
    @brad_Ca Месяц назад

    This version just downloaded for me and I have not had the opportunity to try it out yet so, your video served to educate me on it. What are you doing to report these issues? I’m a new Tesla owner and have not figured that part out yet.

  • @troydelgado1271
    @troydelgado1271 2 месяца назад

    26:37 Driving in the turn lane to travel straight is a traffic violation in many jurisdictions. In the event of an accident caused by using the turn lane incorrectly, the driver may be held legally accountable

  • @lashlarue59
    @lashlarue59 2 месяца назад +2

    Its just weird what a jumbled mess the Tesla hardware and software are. He has a 2023 HW3 car with a Intel Atom processor driving the display screen on version 12.5.4.2. I also have a 2023 HW3 car but with a AMD Ryzen processor driving the display on version 12.5.4.1. My display has always looked like his after the .2 update but I never got that update. So in terms of that feature will the .2 update do anything for my car? There are so many versions of FSD floating around on different hardware configuration even in the same year; how do they keep this stuff straight?

  • @djwildheart
    @djwildheart 2 месяца назад +1

    Not sure if it’s just me but I have issues using FSD when driving in the city vs. the suburbs

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@djwildheart please elaborate. What are the issues? What are the differences? Are there any similarities?

    • @djwildheart
      @djwildheart 2 месяца назад

      @ as an example, there was one instance when FSD missed the entrance to an expressway and when trying to redirect itself back the car tried to pull into an alleyway from a side street and stopped at a curb. I ended up taking control of the vehicle at that point. I’ve had zero disengagements/interventions in the suburbs so far. Maybe city driving has more complex situations to deal with where there is higher probability for driver to take control. At least for now.

  • @mrtsae4241
    @mrtsae4241 2 месяца назад

    Have you tried testing sending the directions from Google maps to your car and see if it will do the lower wacker street left turn that it keeps missing? I had problems with FSD not continuing straight for a roundabout, until I mapped out the destination from google maps (did not edit the map). Google maps showed not to follow the round-about but to stay to the right and it was able to continue to the correct location.
    I also seen if you used Google maps, it would give a side street a real name while the Tesla Navigation would give that same road the name "un-named rd".
    To me some issues to correct the path to take may be a tesla map issues and not just FSD working or not with the map.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@mrtsae4241 good idea! I just wonder: can you create multiple destinations through Google Maps on your phone and then send it to your Tesla?

  • @chrisp1336
    @chrisp1336 2 месяца назад

    Since you are getting so few disengagements, is it possible to summarize, for instance, what each of the 3 disengagements were, at the end....even just in text on the screen. I also have issues with last minute lane changes and the braking when accelerating from a light. Thank you for what you do.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@chrisp1336 sure! Great idea, thanks

  • @MarcusWilke1978
    @MarcusWilke1978 Месяц назад

    Wie fährt FSD bei schlechtem Wetter mit HW3?

  • @vietle4973
    @vietle4973 2 месяца назад

    Thank you

  • @StoneEdwards
    @StoneEdwards 2 месяца назад

    You gotta stop calling it the Willis Tower :p

  • @mossybank2000
    @mossybank2000 Месяц назад

    Updated to this hoping the green light problem would be solved. It isn’t….

  • @ColtonBlumhagen
    @ColtonBlumhagen 2 месяца назад

    In my experience with this version, lane changes are definitely better, speed is still too slow, a knew glitch appeared at one intersection at an overpass where the computer craps out no matter what direction i come through it at.

  • @MilesCone
    @MilesCone 2 месяца назад

    Did you notice phantom breaking? Seems like it’s still pretty bad…

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@MilesCone phantom braking happens at green lights now. This is new with 12.5.4.2 for me.

  • @1gotnintendo
    @1gotnintendo 2 месяца назад

    I have only 1 complaint about your vids, please settle down with 1 variant of visualization. I think the best one is with camera on the roof and car interior on the bottom. And don't change them till the end of the video. I would be perfect. Also if you a using replay, 1 time replay is enough, don't do it 3 times in a row) Anyways, i like your vids. Its not so fake like whole mars do.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@1gotnintendo thanks for the feedback. Appreciate that.

  • @matty8920
    @matty8920 2 месяца назад

    22:25 the car behind you is flashing his lights.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад +1

      @@matty8920 I know! Good observation. They weren’t happy with me after slowing down at the end of the light to turn left and then slowing down AGAIN when the light was green to go through the intersection. Thankfully FSD was already going through the intersection, but the car slowed down enough where the brake lights illuminated temporarily. They weren’t happy with me. 😢

  • @digitalplayland
    @digitalplayland 2 месяца назад

    Just imagine this version in Paris... lols. I can't wait FSD to come to Europe.

  • @pennyharris446
    @pennyharris446 2 месяца назад +1

    28:18 fsd driving like a tourist 😂

  • @famip3679
    @famip3679 2 месяца назад

    When are you upgrading to HW4, it’s clear 3 is done

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@famip3679 I will upgrade to HW4 if I can get to 50,000 subs before the end of the year. I hope that helps to answer your question. 😂

  • @wreckinball11
    @wreckinball11 2 месяца назад

    It's BS that the other OG's with HW4 are on 12.5.6. I am a mid October 2021 tester with a HW3 also and just got 12.5.4.2.

  • @BobbieGWhiz
    @BobbieGWhiz 2 месяца назад

    Now that everybody has access to the free FSD trial, what’s the point of these videos when we can all have our own firsthand experiences? Maybe it makes sense if there’s significant advancements when we all don’t have FSD. Thanks.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад +1

      @@BobbieGWhiz true. I post these videos since most people aren’t adventurous (or crazy) enough to try it out in busy city environments like this! Also, not everyone has a Tesla and many Europeans are curious to see. Finally, I post in 4K to give an interesting full-screen, big-TV experience.

  • @jaz0305
    @jaz0305 Месяц назад

    If you're driving on assertive mode you will have issues I've been driving this version on average and it works flawlessly in downtown Chicago I drive more FSD than anybody in City of Chicago I can get into you that average of 7,000 mi a month

  • @TeslaElonSpaceXFan
    @TeslaElonSpaceXFan 2 месяца назад +1

    😍

  • @bradyoon7148
    @bradyoon7148 2 месяца назад

    You have to get a salery from Tesla.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@bradyoon7148 haha, wouldn’t that be nice. Instead I get $10 from RUclips for working 12+ hours of editing.

  • @Jahvaa
    @Jahvaa 2 месяца назад

    Do the same but if it goes wrong way let it go

  • @rvboondocker2559
    @rvboondocker2559 2 месяца назад +1

    12.5.4.2 doesn’t really do anything for me. My understanding is that 12.5.6.2 is much better in terms of not these silly 20 miles over the speed limit in a 30 mile an hour zone permutations. I should just send that to all of us right now because I would give me a ticket for going that fast! HW 4

  • @NateSpencerWx
    @NateSpencerWx 2 месяца назад

    It sounds like you said a dirty word.. 5:27

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@NateSpencerWx haha, no editing there. No dirty words either! I wonder what you heard.

  • @DRVRLES
    @DRVRLES 2 месяца назад

    It seams like your not having any phantom breaking which is really bad with my car (v12.5.4.1 AI3 M3p). Still waiting for the v.dot2.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад +1

      @@DRVRLES I have some braking at green lights sometimes. But not too much otherwise.

    • @DRVRLES
      @DRVRLES Месяц назад

      @@techgeektesla My car almost went to a stop at a green light for me but I had to accelerate with cars coming up behind me.

  • @vicneo1
    @vicneo1 2 месяца назад +1

    IMHO 12.5.4.1 and .2 are majorly problematic. As you see really bad lane selection and consequent decision making. Also too skittish, jumps at its own shadow. Terrible unprotected lefts, emanating from insufficient creep. Notices oncoming car a safe distance away, and panics halfway into the turn, making a slightly suboptimal situation much worse. 12.3.6 was the best version yet. Make 12.3.6 great again - @elonmusk !

  • @TuneupMagic
    @TuneupMagic 2 месяца назад

    While my HW4 MYP operating under FSD v12.5.6.1 ruclips.net/video/RL1ipUC4z2k/видео.htmlsi=QP_TmV9unjrTlZpW has been doing just fine for over a week now, lately Tesla has stopped wider release of 12.5.6.1, and started rolling out FSD v12.5.4.2 to HW4 cars instead.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@TuneupMagic interesting! Thanks for sharing.

  • @xghostyxjokerx
    @xghostyxjokerx 2 месяца назад

    Its getting more worst then better in my opinion yes smoother yes graphics but more issues I came acrossed and teported....

  • @davidstrong7854
    @davidstrong7854 2 месяца назад +1

    Found it learns better like a kid a let it make mistakes. Yes it cost us loads of time but it lears better.

    • @Dave-ei7kk
      @Dave-ei7kk 2 месяца назад

      According to the FSD team that’s not how it works. Your car is incapable of learning from its mistakes. The only time it improves is when it downloads a new version of the neural net that makes the path planning decisions.
      But in a roundabout way it is possible that errors it makes while you drive could be included in the next FSD training run, especially if you disengage and submit a voice report.

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@Dave-ei7kk Correct!! Thanks for this info. It’s true. Dirty Tesla discovered this directly from talking with people on the Autopilot team during the We, Robot event last month.

  • @disneymike3311
    @disneymike3311 2 месяца назад +1

    This looks like an awful update. 😢

    • @techgeektesla
      @techgeektesla  2 месяца назад

      @@disneymike3311 😅 It does seem to introduce a number of regressions…

  • @matt5742
    @matt5742 2 месяца назад

    Tell fascist Karen to keep away from Chicago, no love for putin allies here