Mine has also been super impressive. I’ve had this iteration about three weeks, also in Chicagoland. I don’t know why the CNBC talking heads pontificate about how it “only works on the expressway but not driving through town”. It’s phenomenal and I don’t even drive anymore, other than backing out of the driveway. FSD all the time.
I drove uber eats all day today using v12.3.6. Engaged FSD from each pick up to delivery location. Spokane Valley WA. Had to disengage in apartment complexes and parking lots. But no other issues. It drove like a native. Very cautious pull outs. Slowed at speed bumps. Careful around pedestrians. Very Very comfortable. Robo taxi service could start in spokane tmrw with designated PU / DO points.
I drove that Washington St route for over 20 years. I used to work a 5 S Wabash. Love the opportunity to see it again but I never saw the bus lane configuration that exists today. I've been in Nevada for the past ten years. Great video. Very comprehensive description of the experience you had today. I also have a 2019 Model 3. Living in Las Vegas now.
I bought FSD in 2018 for $5k. I've been involved in technology and AI for many decades, so my expectation was that FSD wouldn't work for many years, and quite possible would never work. But, I wasn't going to pass up such a great opportunity to watch it learn. It's been a great experience these past 6 years.
I got mine for $6K in 2020. Completely agree. I didn't buy with high expectations. I figured, I'd pay the car off and just keep it and see what happens. Pleasantly surprised with V 12. v11 was a mess. lol
I just bought a 2024 model Y AWD at the promo 0.99% apr. Paid 8k for the FSD, knowing i would never not want to pay tye subscription. When i took my teat drive, i was so blown away, and i loved it so much, i might hardly never drive myself again
@@DeeCeeP38 I have had a version of V12.3 for 2 months and have not driven except the start and finish of my trip. That should be solved in the next few updates. Many people are too stuck on that it does not drive like them. How many cabs or ubers have ever driven like you.
An easy 1:00 pm Chicago drive, but FSD has problems: 1:35 FSD *cannot* *backup* , so it cannot get out of a parking spot 8:17 Not a tight area, for a human driver 9:45 FSD is in the wrong lane, then illegally moves to the Left 10:40 FSD misses a turn 10:50 FSD pulls over to the right curb for no reason. *Confusion* 22:16 FSD is stuck behind a car for 6o seconds. Human would have avoided this 24:20 FSD is *stuck* *again* . *Disengagement* 26:18 FSD slows down, for no reason. Human *intervenes* 31:37 FSD stops way too far back, at a Red light FSD is still having problems in big cities: Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles, Toronto. Maybe v13 will be better?
1:35 backing up not released. coming soon. 8:17 driver said that. not the car. 9:45 humans do this every day. all day. 10:40 very human to miss a turn. 10:50 human changed the route. could be figuring out which way to go. very humanlike. 22:16 humans get stuck like this all the time, but finally, you found one that a human would solve easily. 24:20 dude, this is the same situation. can't count it twice. 26:18 yeah that's 1 for you 31:37 minor mistake. probably irrelevant. i'd say you got 2/9 there. i think that's a fail. clearly you will never make a very good robot. nothing here that seems remotely problematic to solve. by the way v12.4 is already released. musk says 5 to 10 times less problems. we'll see.
@@rsmonge Mr Monge, perhaps you don't have a drivers license in America? Everything I wrote is true. If FSD will *someday* reach Level 5 Autonomy, this list of 9 items is *unacceptable* .
@@DerekDavis213false, dude. #1 necessary, but said to be coming #2 solved #3 not necessary. merely annoying #4 not necessary. merely annoying #5 reasonable if based on a changed route. we can't be sure. #6 and #7 not necessary. this is a problem, but the car probably would have gotten out. #8 not clear what happened. but was done safely. needs to be looked at. #9 not necessary. merely annoying so, it's fair to say, u failed again. probably 2/9 are necessary. the others we hope to be improved. and clearly will be. feel free to be critical all you like. but when your claims are false, i will counter those claims.
@@rsmonge My 'claims' are all true, but whether or not those things are *serious* is a matter of opinion. Clearly, FSD is nowhere even close to Full Autonomy in a big city. And other FSD v12 reviews here on RUclips show the beta software behaving *even* *worse* .
@@DerekDavis213 no, you claimed 9 things were necessary. they are not. your logic is poor. and unless you are one of the people who approves car autonomy, neither you nor i get to declare what is necessary.
10:11 the funny thing is that yes, there are some minor issues with lane selection and other choices now. Surely it will get better, but it begs the question whether or not in the future when a HUGE percentage of cars are autonomous - will it even matter anymore? The cars will just do their thing and be safe even in weird scenarios that might confuse other human drivers. Maybe there won't even be a need for signals or traffic rules. India driving will be the status quo for the whole world with robot cars. lol
Mine fails to read speed signs outside of Chicago. The highway is just a disaster where it slows down to the speed designed for trucks. Regular streets it reads junction signs as speed limits
Hi. At 28:40 I think your car had spotted the blue car to your left was indicating right in an attempt to get into your lane. I feel that FSD was being incredibly polite and leaving as much space as possible for the blue car.
Great editing, and love the overhead camera! Please consider moving the car screen to the top right corner. Also top left for your interior camera when you want to include that. Love your channel, definitely subscribing. 😊
For background on my Lower Wacker comment: This road runs under "Upper Wacker" (perhaps not surprisingly). But the two don't exactly overlap, so FSD seems to get confused about which level it's on. In the past, this has made FSD basically unusable on Lower Wacker. Happy to see such improvement here.
Lower Wacker success. I often turn right onto N Water st (where your car went straight). I've never seen it properly turn right, but it was in the correct lane and probably would have turned just fine judging from your video. I'm back in Chicago in August, and it'll be great to check out my car.
Hey, John, here's yet another idea for a video. I'd do it if I had better video equipment: Many drivers complain about nags. I, and many others, have a system in which they have a hand on one knee, lightly gripping the steering wheel and letting it slide through the hand when it turns. That's enough resistance to allow the car to register that you're there. You could also show that having two hands on the wheel sometimes doesn't allow enough resistance. You could do a video with the camera aimed at the hand to show how this works. If you do it, better hurry before the new versions that use only cameras to check. ;)
I for sure think that 9:00 that the method has been solved. To get to 99.999999% is going to take additional training, but in theory the endgame is in sight. Exciting times!
Awesome! I can't wait to try out v12 when v12.4.X hits my car. I've been stuck on 2024.8.9 (FSD 11.4.9) for a while now. My commute has some moments of constant disengagements which I'm hopeful to try out with v12 to see if they get resolved. I've enjoyed your recent FSD videos which gives me more confidence to use FSD everywhere and getting more comfortable with it 🙂
Would be awesome that once the FSD is fully able that we as the owner can use it to become an uber service kind of thing allowing us to make some extra money while we're either at work or at home as a feature i like to call "Freelancer Mode"
Great camera view, sort of imax wide and tall. Slightly blocked when you then add visualization but you moved it around. You can really see any close action at the corners of the car. You might be able to cut out the central square of the visualization in the split map view and equivalent size central map square and have those as two free elements, that way you may not need to move things around in editing. A static layout. Word is Tesla is rehiring a core of the supercharger team. There was just a disagreement about the chain of command but it was resolved. It did well underground in Chicago although you might have picked the easiest but it seemed very good.
Suggestion for the illegally parked car trap: manually turn on right turn signal to see if FSD will pick up on the hint to go around the parked vehicles prior to disengagement. Either way, a training opportunity for FSD.
@@jumbothompson Bad analogy. iPhone was revolutionary. We have excellent taxi services today: Uber and Lyft. A dumb Robotaxi is slower and less safe than a taxi with *human* *driver* .
It might exit the tight parallell parking spot if you reversed it yourself. I guess that's what's missing. Tesla doesn't like reversing, as you did first when exiting manually. It drives very nicely, at least the first 7 minutes I've watched so far.
I’ve had 12.3.6 for a little while now. ☺️ I filmed this video around March 8th and didn’t post until very recently. As soon as I get 12.4 I will be filming. 👊 Can’t wait to get it!
yea what you said around 9:00 regarding Omar saying it was "solved" yea... there are a few Tesla content creators out there who ride Elons meat really bad, watch their videos they legit just pole ride him the entire time.
I disagree with you that you shouldn't be able to engage autopilot if it's can't get out of the parking spot you are looking at it right now you're not looking at it in the future because it is about to get reverse and then it will be able to get out of the parking spot so why write code to not engage autopilot when they have to take it out anyway
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Mine has also been super impressive. I’ve had this iteration about three weeks, also in Chicagoland. I don’t know why the CNBC talking heads pontificate about how it “only works on the expressway but not driving through town”. It’s phenomenal and I don’t even drive anymore, other than backing out of the driveway. FSD all the time.
I personally think baring night or rain this version will save lives.
I drove uber eats all day today using v12.3.6. Engaged FSD from each pick up to delivery location. Spokane Valley WA. Had to disengage in apartment complexes and parking lots. But no other issues. It drove like a native. Very cautious pull outs. Slowed at speed bumps. Careful around pedestrians. Very Very comfortable. Robo taxi service could start in spokane tmrw with designated PU / DO points.
This post is from last week. Did a paste from clipboard. Good job on video. V12.4 coming yeah
I drove that Washington St route for over 20 years. I used to work a 5 S Wabash. Love the opportunity to see it again but I never saw the bus lane configuration that exists today. I've been in Nevada for the past ten years. Great video. Very comprehensive description of the experience you had today. I also have a 2019 Model 3. Living in Las Vegas now.
Oh that’s awesome! I love that you know the route & also own a Tesla. Nevada is a good choice - great weather and excellent cost of living.
@@techgeektesla I used to live in Schaumburg, IL. I got the impression from some of your previous RUclips videos that you live in that area.
I bought FSD in 2018 for $5k. I've been involved in technology and AI for many decades, so my expectation was that FSD wouldn't work for many years, and quite possible would never work. But, I wasn't going to pass up such a great opportunity to watch it learn. It's been a great experience these past 6 years.
Awesome!!! Same here - the journey has been incredibly fascinating… and FUN.
I paid $6K in 2019. 5 years later it's only $2K more. Tesla prices sure are volatile.
I got mine for $6K in 2020. Completely agree. I didn't buy with high expectations. I figured, I'd pay the car off and just keep it and see what happens. Pleasantly surprised with V 12. v11 was a mess. lol
I just bought a 2024 model Y AWD at the promo 0.99% apr. Paid 8k for the FSD, knowing i would never not want to pay tye subscription. When i took my teat drive, i was so blown away, and i loved it so much, i might hardly never drive myself again
@@DeeCeeP38 I have had a version of V12.3 for 2 months and have not driven except the start and finish of my trip. That should be solved in the next few updates. Many people are too stuck on that it does not drive like them. How many cabs or ubers have ever driven like you.
Good trip. Like the camera view.
Thank you 🙏
Nice video, thanks, FSD is very impressive.
Thank you 🙏
An easy 1:00 pm Chicago drive, but FSD has problems:
1:35 FSD *cannot* *backup* , so it cannot get out of a parking spot
8:17 Not a tight area, for a human driver
9:45 FSD is in the wrong lane, then illegally moves to the Left
10:40 FSD misses a turn
10:50 FSD pulls over to the right curb for no reason. *Confusion*
22:16 FSD is stuck behind a car for 6o seconds. Human would have avoided this
24:20 FSD is *stuck* *again* . *Disengagement*
26:18 FSD slows down, for no reason. Human *intervenes*
31:37 FSD stops way too far back, at a Red light
FSD is still having problems in big cities: Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles, Toronto.
Maybe v13 will be better?
1:35 backing up not released. coming soon.
8:17 driver said that. not the car.
9:45 humans do this every day. all day.
10:40 very human to miss a turn.
10:50 human changed the route. could be figuring out which way to go. very humanlike.
22:16 humans get stuck like this all the time, but finally, you found one that a human would solve easily.
24:20 dude, this is the same situation. can't count it twice.
26:18 yeah that's 1 for you
31:37 minor mistake. probably irrelevant.
i'd say you got 2/9 there. i think that's a fail. clearly you will never make a very good robot.
nothing here that seems remotely problematic to solve. by the way v12.4 is already released. musk says 5 to 10 times less problems. we'll see.
@@rsmonge Mr Monge, perhaps you don't have a drivers license in America? Everything I wrote is true. If FSD will *someday* reach Level 5 Autonomy, this list of 9 items is *unacceptable* .
@@DerekDavis213false, dude.
#1 necessary, but said to be coming
#2 solved
#3 not necessary. merely annoying
#4 not necessary. merely annoying
#5 reasonable if based on a changed route. we can't be sure.
#6 and #7 not necessary. this is a problem, but the car probably would have gotten out.
#8 not clear what happened. but was done safely. needs to be looked at.
#9 not necessary. merely annoying
so, it's fair to say, u failed again. probably 2/9 are necessary. the others we hope to be improved. and clearly will be. feel free to be critical all you like. but when your claims are false, i will counter those claims.
@@rsmonge My 'claims' are all true, but whether or not those things are *serious* is a matter of opinion.
Clearly, FSD is nowhere even close to Full Autonomy in a big city. And other FSD v12 reviews here on RUclips show the beta software behaving *even* *worse* .
@@DerekDavis213 no, you claimed 9 things were necessary. they are not. your logic is poor. and unless you are one of the people who approves car autonomy, neither you nor i get to declare what is necessary.
great video and camera setup
10:11 the funny thing is that yes, there are some minor issues with lane selection and other choices now. Surely it will get better, but it begs the question whether or not in the future when a HUGE percentage of cars are autonomous - will it even matter anymore? The cars will just do their thing and be safe even in weird scenarios that might confuse other human drivers. Maybe there won't even be a need for signals or traffic rules. India driving will be the status quo for the whole world with robot cars. lol
Mine fails to read speed signs outside of Chicago. The highway is just a disaster where it slows down to the speed designed for trucks. Regular streets it reads junction signs as speed limits
FSD fails to read many types of road signs: DO NOT ENTER, ROAD CLOSED, etc.
Thank you! Nice FSD content.
Thank you 🙏
Hi. At 28:40 I think your car had spotted the blue car to your left was indicating right in an attempt to get into your lane. I feel that FSD was being incredibly polite and leaving as much space as possible for the blue car.
FSD makes good progress!
12.3.6 is awesome.
I love the cameras angle you put.
Thank you 🙏
Great editing, and love the overhead camera! Please consider moving the car screen to the top right corner. Also top left for your interior camera when you want to include that. Love your channel, definitely subscribing. 😊
lol. The guy at the very end of the video almost got a ticket thinking the cops weren't there 🤣
For background on my Lower Wacker comment: This road runs under "Upper Wacker" (perhaps not surprisingly). But the two don't exactly overlap, so FSD seems to get confused about which level it's on. In the past, this has made FSD basically unusable on Lower Wacker.
Happy to see such improvement here.
I have another video specifically with testing on Lower Wacker Dr that I may not get a chance to upload, but it performed considerably well!
Lower Wacker success. I often turn right onto N Water st (where your car went straight). I've never seen it properly turn right, but it was in the correct lane and probably would have turned just fine judging from your video. I'm back in Chicago in August, and it'll be great to check out my car.
I am more tense when my wife is driving compared to the author of the video with FSD.
Thanks, great content
Thank you 🙏
Hey, John, here's yet another idea for a video. I'd do it if I had better video equipment:
Many drivers complain about nags. I, and many others, have a system in which they have a hand on one knee, lightly gripping the steering wheel and letting it slide through the hand when it turns. That's enough resistance to allow the car to register that you're there. You could also show that having two hands on the wheel sometimes doesn't allow enough resistance.
You could do a video with the camera aimed at the hand to show how this works.
If you do it, better hurry before the new versions that use only cameras to check. ;)
wow your car is really shinny
I for sure think that 9:00 that the method has been solved. To get to 99.999999% is going to take additional training, but in theory the endgame is in sight. Exciting times!
Awesome! I can't wait to try out v12 when v12.4.X hits my car. I've been stuck on 2024.8.9 (FSD 11.4.9) for a while now. My commute has some moments of constant disengagements which I'm hopeful to try out with v12 to see if they get resolved.
I've enjoyed your recent FSD videos which gives me more confidence to use FSD everywhere and getting more comfortable with it 🙂
Hi. Thank you for showing us how FSD behaves under a variety of use cases! Is your Tesla running FSD 12 a hardware 3-equipped car?
NM - you answered that ~ 35 minutes in, 2019 M3, HW3, USS..
That was a loading zone. Yellow curb. That seems the issue. FSD should recognize the yellow curb.
카메라 앵글 100점....wow .....
Would be awesome that once the FSD is fully able that we as the owner can use it to become an uber service kind of thing allowing us to make some extra money while we're either at work or at home as a feature i like to call "Freelancer Mode"
You should do both
Post and live
Great camera view, sort of imax wide and tall. Slightly blocked when you then add visualization but you moved it around. You can really see any close action at the corners of the car. You might be able to cut out the central square of the visualization in the split map view and equivalent size central map square and have those as two free elements, that way you may not need to move things around in editing. A static layout.
Word is Tesla is rehiring a core of the supercharger team. There was just a disagreement about the chain of command but it was resolved.
It did well underground in Chicago although you might have picked the easiest but it seemed very good.
FSD is really fuckin good now. And it’s only gonna get better.
Suggestion for the illegally parked car trap: manually turn on right turn signal to see if FSD will pick up on the hint to go around the parked vehicles prior to disengagement. Either way, a training opportunity for FSD.
Were you using FSD on this trip in chill mode? I live in the city and I’m trying to determine the best mode to use
And to think where we will be in the next five years with self driving and robotaxi etc..
Uber and Lyft give rides to millions of people every year. Is anyone *asking* for a Robotaxi?
@@DerekDavis213
Was anyone asking for an iphone?
@@jumbothompson Bad analogy. iPhone was revolutionary. We have excellent taxi services today: Uber and Lyft. A dumb Robotaxi is slower and less safe than a taxi with *human* *driver* .
@@DerekDavis213LMAO amazing, this guy seriously is clueless ☠️☠️☠️
@@MrGiggity890 you talk like a high school kid. We are having an adult conversation here.
I wonder if FSD pulled over to let the navagation catch up rather than continuing and making uncomfortable turns.
Many lane changes without safe use of the indicators
It might exit the tight parallell parking spot if you reversed it yourself. I guess that's what's missing.
Tesla doesn't like reversing, as you did first when exiting manually.
It drives very nicely, at least the first 7 minutes I've watched so far.
V12.3.6 also lets cars from side streets onto the roadway as well as left turn lane cars to proceed when the FSD is stopped. Very human version.
How are you just getting .3.6? I have had it for a month. That may be discouraging news for you getting V12.4. I hope not though.
Yeah I have a 2020 and still on this version too. Definitely seeing the gap between older and newer now.
@@quickpstuts412 2019 Model 3 here with HW3.
@@wreckinball11 Oh Ok. Well there goes my theory. LOL
I’ve had 12.3.6 for a little while now. ☺️ I filmed this video around March 8th and didn’t post until very recently. As soon as I get 12.4 I will be filming. 👊 Can’t wait to get it!
Your machine did put you inadvertantly in the right lane, not turning right and a truck ahead in your chosen lane.
The Skyway... anybody...??
good disengagement there with the illegally parked vehicles it's going to need to be able to recognize that more reliably.
FSD also needs to recognize and act upon signs: DO NOT ENTER, ROAD CLOSED, etc
The $99 won't hold when its unsupervised. The $8K will seem like a bargain.
Unsupervised could be years away. FSD today is nothing like a human driver.
@@DerekDavis213 LMAO this guy literally posts FUD all day
@@MrGiggity890 FUD? FSD requires *100* *percent* human supervision. That's the sad truth. FSD is a Level 2 assistant that makes mistakes all the time.
@@DerekDavis213 HAHAHHAHAHA
yea what you said around 9:00 regarding Omar saying it was "solved" yea... there are a few Tesla content creators out there who ride Elons meat really bad, watch their videos they legit just pole ride him the entire time.
I disagree with you that you shouldn't be able to engage autopilot if it's can't get out of the parking spot you are looking at it right now you're not looking at it in the future because it is about to get reverse and then it will be able to get out of the parking spot so why write code to not engage autopilot when they have to take it out anyway
True, true! I can’t wait until it can go in reverse. Hopefully coming soon. My guess is that v12.5 will include reverse functionality.
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Human driving has not been "solved" either. As long as FSD is better than a human, then it's solved.