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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @lockpickinglawyer
    @lockpickinglawyer 9 лет назад +30

    Wow. What a surprise waiting for anyone who thinks they can pick that lock! Well-played Wayne... And nice video, Bill.

  • @joeriggs9967
    @joeriggs9967 9 лет назад +63

    I say if Bill can't get into it, its SAFE. ;)

    • @lockmanmd8738
      @lockmanmd8738 9 лет назад +3

      Joe Riggs lol yeah :)

    • @mcmugget
      @mcmugget 8 лет назад

      +Joe “Shearlock” Riggs bingo

  • @ganzonomy
    @ganzonomy 9 лет назад +3

    Bill,
    Absolutely agree. Better to spend an extra $20 or $30 on a proper lock, than to skimp on one of those 4-pin master jobs. I tell that to everyone I know. $30 saved now can *VERY* easily equal $1000 (or more) spent later to replace everything.

  • @pauledwards9493
    @pauledwards9493 9 лет назад +10

    Can you show us how to add a new keyway to a re-keable padlock like that?

  • @Barnekkid
    @Barnekkid 8 лет назад

    If you can get it, a type of chain called "load chain" is impossible to cut with bolt cutters. It's a type of chain made for chain hoists and a two ton capacity chain or larger is good for locking stuff up. Only drawback is if purchased outright this type of chain is kind of expensive. But it might be worth it to secure the Harley or that new H2R or whatever.

  • @lockmanmd8738
    @lockmanmd8738 9 лет назад +1

    Hey Bill! Great video! FYI, that's an ASSA twin 6000. The ASSA twin Combi has finger pins that can rotate, and a slightly more restricted keyway. Thanks for sharing though!

  • @hopefulmelancholy7514
    @hopefulmelancholy7514 6 лет назад +2

    Thank you for letting us know the real deal Bill.👍

  • @silouettesshadow
    @silouettesshadow 8 лет назад +4

    reminds me of tuco's gun store scene from - the good the bad and the ugly.
    piecing together the best parts

  • @24-7lockouts9
    @24-7lockouts9 8 лет назад

    That looks identical to Lockwood Twin. The lower set of teeth lift 3 pins to the correct height, allowing a sidebar to drop into the barrel. I've picked a Twin before, but only by using what's known as a load key. This key is a standard twin key that had been ground flat (past 9), leaving only the side bar cuts. This allows standard picking to take place as the side bar is out of the equation

  • @CoparGaming
    @CoparGaming 9 лет назад +2

    I am buying a Pragmasis 16mm chain with a Torc ground anchor and a squire lock but upgrading to an Abloy PL362 lock. This will be the best protection along with a gps tracker and a disc lock. I haven't got the cash for a disc lock yet though :P

    • @xtp1000
      @xtp1000 9 лет назад

      +Scratcher 1 almax chain is good to

  • @sodalines
    @sodalines 8 лет назад +1

    i have this lock right now, wayne sent me one. have you gotten any closer to picking it. i need some help!!! im not getting much in the way for feed back. really everything in the lock remains very springy.

  • @robrisla3
    @robrisla3 9 лет назад

    I use similar chains (2No.), in diameter and probably hardness, on my bike (Kawasaki Ninja). They cost around £70 each. I have an Oxford wafer lock on one and a Kryptonite puck lock on the other. I reckon there's around a 20 to 30 minute time frame to get through the 2. Hopefully long enough for the thief to be caught!

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever 4 года назад

    A piece of old bicycle inner tube makes a great scratch resistant covering for the hardened chain.

  • @paulstaf
    @paulstaf 7 лет назад

    Would be nice if you put links to the chain in the description, or at least the name of the chain in the description so we could look it up if interested in getting one....thanks.

  • @Modelero
    @Modelero 9 лет назад +1

    Abloy is another good choice

  • @ustawieniatelefonu
    @ustawieniatelefonu 9 лет назад +1

    do you have any links to those locks and chain, hopefully international?

  • @texpatriot8462
    @texpatriot8462 7 лет назад +1

    I got my locksmith to put a Schlage Primus core in that lock. Very happy with it.

  • @siddharthrajguru7190
    @siddharthrajguru7190 9 лет назад

    Hey Bill, great videos! They helped me a lot to steer away from big box brand bike locks. I had a question, I watched Winton's video as well and was wondering where I could by the 3/8" Pewag security chain online or at a store. Bike registry used to sell an Abus lock + Pewag chain in the past but don't anymore. Could you please help me out. Thank you! :)

  • @Sceme1991
    @Sceme1991 8 лет назад +2

    You say there is no unpickable locks. Does this apply to Abloy Protec or Exec also? How does picking one of these happen then? In theory atleast. I don't think you can do it by using traditional lock picks?

    • @rsilvers129
      @rsilvers129 7 лет назад

      No one on RUclips has ever picked a Protec, Protec2, or MT5+, as far as I can find. Not sure I have seen an Abus disk-detainer picked either. If I have, it was with a $300 tool that a few people in the world can use with the lock in a vise while they sit comfortably in their living room.

  • @sphillips6357
    @sphillips6357 8 лет назад

    Perhaps you can recommend a padlock for my semi-truck trailer used for unattended wilderness storage. People don't try to pick the lock, or drill it out, and they don't usually carry bolt cutters with them, so those corresponding specs are somewhat useless. What they use is a hammer. Several strong downward blows is all I've found it takes on top of the padlock for the shackle to come out. What padlocks can you recommend are most resistant to this type of real-world destructive assault? Has any of this type of destructive testing ever been done?
    Over the years I've had to occasionally break padlocks on fences, etc. I've never drilled one out, picked a lock or used bolt cutters, I've only used a hammer and and its always worked, at least with Master padlocks, with just a few blows.

    • @bosnianbill
      @bosnianbill  8 лет назад

      Check out the Abloy PL362 or, even better, the S&G 831 or 833 series locks. The Abloy will cost you around $200, the 831 (used) about the same, and the 833 (used) around $350. Check eBay, they all appear regularly.

    • @rsilvers129
      @rsilvers129 7 лет назад

      Maybe a mul-t-lock C16 also. $120 plus shipping on eBay. 16mm may be too thick for the hasp though.

  • @chickenfingers991
    @chickenfingers991 8 лет назад +4

    Will you do a video on the best types of chains?

  • @Brody026
    @Brody026 9 лет назад

    what would be a good lock for a storage unit. after watching your videos iam looking at a abloy pl342 or a mul t lock #10. interested in this Stanley lock but where can I find one with that core in it. thanks for any info.

  • @Charliemmafan
    @Charliemmafan 3 года назад

    So where can people buy that lock with that improved much higher security core instead of having just the bogus worthless core?

  • @kevinaviles87
    @kevinaviles87 8 лет назад +6

    where can i purchase a core like that?

    • @texpatriot8462
      @texpatriot8462 7 лет назад

      Kevin Aviles Unless you reuse a core (with keys) from another lock, you will probably need to hire a locksmith to get a high security core and keys set up. My locksmith installed a Schlage Primus core for me,

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 5 лет назад +1

      Stevey TeeVee If you're too far from the US, any professional ASSA locksmith should sell you an ASSA cylinder with that core, matching keys and an ID card needed to buy extra keys later. That's a standard product. You can typically choose between an ASSA padlock, oval door cylinder, hardened round door cylinder, a euro-profile cylinder or a mailbox/cabinet cylinder. They can also sell you matching locks with the same keys as standard. If you want to put it in a non-ASSA padlock, check if it accepts popping in one of those standard cylinder types as a replacement core.

  • @NicholasAarons
    @NicholasAarons 9 лет назад

    Awesome Video Bill. Have you tried taking all of the key & Driver Pins out of the Lock and only leave the side pins and Pick them so you can get a feel for it? That's what I've been doing and I've almost got the technique for getting it open I already can Pick ASSA's & Ruko's so it's the side pin part that I'm trying to work out how to pick once I've done that I'll reassemble everything and try to Pick it when it's complete. I've managed by luck to open 2 of them one Mogle & one Euro Lock in the ASSA Twin Combi once I get better I'll do a video and gut it like you & KoKo do on video. Keep up the great work. Nick.

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 5 лет назад

      Nicholas Aarons Bonus tip: In some countries ASSA only sells a few different sidebar profiles and blank keys with those side profiles precut, which reduces the guessing game a lot. Not sure if they still do that.

  • @waynewinton
    @waynewinton 9 лет назад +4

    Great review. Thanks Bill!

  • @DanielSultana
    @DanielSultana 9 лет назад

    I really cannot imagine anyone using a bicycle would carry such a set up (not so much the space as much the weight), any suggestions for bicycle owners?

  • @brandonwalker8691
    @brandonwalker8691 8 лет назад

    have u ever picked a mul-t-lock MT5+ hercular singel barrel dead bolt before? or a mul-t-lock mt5+ #35 c- series sliding padlock?

  • @Hear2Help
    @Hear2Help 8 лет назад +1

    what is the model number of that lock? if you said it, I missed it, sorry, or is this a custom made lock? I know you said it had a ASSA twin combi key, is this something that is done aftermarket? or does it come that way?

    • @VanillaSnake21
      @VanillaSnake21 8 лет назад +1

      +Bob Long I'm no expert but from what I learned on this channel is that most locks have a little screw on the inside that allows for the core to be taken out and switched with another core, it's very simple to do. So you can just get an ASSA core and swap it into any lock like this one.

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 5 лет назад

      Bob Long This is aftermarket, video gives name of the guy selling this in the US.

  • @Repsol000
    @Repsol000 7 лет назад

    Will two of those chain links fit in that lock

  • @user-rw3qq2sr1z
    @user-rw3qq2sr1z 9 лет назад

    Bill, great video; would you ever consider "gutting" that lock for us in a video; would love to see the insides and how those "finger" pins work.

  • @rsilvers129
    @rsilvers129 7 лет назад

    Sadly the 60mm version of this lock has vanished from the internet. No one sells it anymore.

    • @texpatriot8462
      @texpatriot8462 7 лет назад

      Robert Silvers smile.amazon.com/Stanley-Hardware-S828-160-Shrouded-Hardened/dp/B001V5IYT2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511612976&sr=8-1&keywords=stanley+24%2F7+lock

  • @robbedoes1985
    @robbedoes1985 8 лет назад

    Hey Bill, I have been snooping your channel but I can't seem to find a list with your preferred or recommended pad locks. do you have one?

  • @stevenmcginty1763
    @stevenmcginty1763 7 лет назад +1

    If I WS going to go for. Destructive entry to them kind of locks.I would use chemical attack!Sodium hydroxide bath / small container with sodium hydroxide dip the alloy metal in it then go back a good ew hours later.Meta ally dioves aloy metal.The hardest lock I've picked is a one pool pin suitcase lock!I used to have a natural knack for combination locks and other locks when I was around 12 years old,stealing bikes!I'm a Christian now and want to use my skills for good!

  • @uzaiyaro
    @uzaiyaro 9 лет назад

    What about steering wheel or brake pedal locks (i.e pedaljack) for cars?

  • @snajperSLO
    @snajperSLO 9 лет назад

    What bicycle lock should I get under 60 euro?

  • @Charliemmafan
    @Charliemmafan 3 года назад

    That guy's website isn't active anymore so Bosnian Bill where can people buy the exact unpickable cores for this lock so that we can put them in the affordable Stanley locks ourselves as well as buy super thick sturdy chains and get both the core and chains affordably so that we can have something secure to secure our bicycles, gates, sheds etc? PLEASE GET BACK TO ME THANKS!

  • @florinsimion9261
    @florinsimion9261 9 лет назад

    Cheers! what do you think security-wise of a American Lock AH10KA-D500 Padlock Solid Hardened Steel Tumbler Kab + Pewag 12mm sq link chain ? the chain speaks for itself but I am not sure about this lock - it ihas 6 pins though, hardened ..

    • @florinsimion9261
      @florinsimion9261 9 лет назад

      +bosnianbill Thanks a lot, Bill ! I got tricked by the 'marketing' of that lock.. Stanley it is, then! :)

    • @nuuwnhuus
      @nuuwnhuus 8 лет назад

      +florin simion Not sure if you already bought it or not. But he clearly says in the video that the Stanley has a marshmallow core, this one was swapped out.

  • @MrHiram30
    @MrHiram30 7 лет назад +1

    For $250, I'd rather buy the Abloy 362 padlock. That $35 Stanley padlock is very over priced, no matter the Assa core.

    • @rsilvers129
      @rsilvers129 7 лет назад

      Agreed it is not cost-effective to upgrade the Stanley. But it is a great lock to leave alone if you don't think criminals pick locks. The 50mm Stanley is $23 on Amazon. Are there any better padlocks for under $60?
      BTW, Abloy 362 are $133 now on eBay.

  • @iggymac3473
    @iggymac3473 9 лет назад

    Hey Bill don't you think the cap on the bottom would be the weak link just dremel it out guts fall out and your in ?

    • @hugomartel8552
      @hugomartel8552 9 лет назад

      +Iggy Mac Its hardended metal...

    • @iggymac3473
      @iggymac3473 9 лет назад

      +Hugo Martel yes and a dremel will burn it right off

    • @hugomartel8552
      @hugomartel8552 9 лет назад

      well Try it, go to home depot they sell the stock lock for 35$$

    • @iggymac3473
      @iggymac3473 9 лет назад

      +Hugo Martel If done it with a American Lock Padlock same kind of setup

    • @hugomartel8552
      @hugomartel8552 9 лет назад

      american lock hard plate is WAY thinner than the stanley one mayby with an angle grinder

  • @grahambate3384
    @grahambate3384 9 лет назад

    Love ur video mate, but with a motor bike they could lift it on the back of a truck or something, that chain to around something and that something could be weak, I know some bikes r heavily, my last bike 220kgs around 500 pounds, keep up the great video cob (cob= mate or friend in australia)

    • @MiesvanderLippe
      @MiesvanderLippe 9 лет назад

      Graham Bate
      They'd have to take whatever you attached it to with them as well.

    • @Coxy002605
      @Coxy002605 9 лет назад +1

      Graham Bate The idea is to make it as inconvenient as possible for the thief. If they want something bad enough, they will take it, no matter how well secured it is.

    • @TheBellman
      @TheBellman 9 лет назад

      Graham Bate Yea lifting it onto a truck is a major project. Won't happen if you don't park your ride ostensibly on a remote street. Also if you say, put your chain around a wrought iron fence or something obvious that will have to be loudly sawn through. Security is a process, not a product.

    • @grahambate3384
      @grahambate3384 9 лет назад

      good point

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 5 лет назад

      The Bellman For "pushbikes" (sometimes $1000+ types made of titanium etc.), there are gangs that drive up to bicycle parkings and lift everything (bicycles, bicycle rack etc.) into their vans, then escape over state lines to frustrate investigation by local police, since getting court orders for cross-border pursuit is more work than the police will bother doing for petty-theft bike. And if they do get caught, their lawyer may argue for the hundreds of sentences for stealing one bike to be served concurrently.

  • @jimu57
    @jimu57 9 лет назад

    great advice.

  • @rune.theocracy
    @rune.theocracy 9 лет назад

    I cant realy get that much locks to pick, Im 12 so I dont expect my parents to buy me a lock for my hobby. Great video anyway bosnian!

  • @cheater00
    @cheater00 8 лет назад

    who sent Bill that lock? I couldn't make it out. Bill start addint annotations or putting links in the description! :)

  • @ShadySkater926
    @ShadySkater926 9 лет назад

    hi i have watched alot of you vids on master locks and i was wondering what you think about brink locks i have one for my bike, wanna make sure it is safe

    • @ShadySkater926
      @ShadySkater926 9 лет назад

      +bosnianbill thank you

    • @ShadySkater926
      @ShadySkater926 9 лет назад

      +jonkari33 . thanks, right now im using one that uses a weird kinda key, i wish i could explain with more detail but i dont know what its called, i was wondering if it is possible to pick that kind of lock

    • @vjk889
      @vjk889 9 лет назад

      +Justice Millburg Could it be a warded lock? (that's the only other type that I know Brinks makes). The key would have deep vertical cuts of equal depth on both sides instead of the usual zigzag pattern along one edge. If so, it's one of the least secure designs there is, and can easily be opened with a very simple tool. If that's what you have, get something else ASAP...

    • @ShadySkater926
      @ShadySkater926 9 лет назад

      the end of the key is a hollow circle

    • @vjk889
      @vjk889 9 лет назад

      +Justice Millburg In that case, I have no idea what that might be. Sorry.

  • @jeffmoss26
    @jeffmoss26 9 лет назад

    How are the tolerances?

  • @pulvermachertrever
    @pulvermachertrever 9 лет назад

    are krypotonites good locks for bikes?

    • @hugomartel8552
      @hugomartel8552 9 лет назад

      +Trever Pulvermacher disk detainder: yes. Tubular lock : NO WAY if you need more details, just ask, I will answer

  • @chevymudding01
    @chevymudding01 8 лет назад

    where could I get a chain like this

  • @64akon
    @64akon 9 лет назад

    very nice lock

  • @everythinghomerepair1747
    @everythinghomerepair1747 9 лет назад

    that's a good lock

  • @kevinaviles87
    @kevinaviles87 8 лет назад

    this video answered my question!

  • @17hmr243
    @17hmr243 9 лет назад

    dont know there- all i see is nuff chain to go around 1 wheel so two spanners and i own that bike.
    thanks for the tips tho

    • @kuhrd
      @kuhrd 9 лет назад +7

      Gummy Bear You always secure through the frame of the bike whenever possible not so much the wheel. If the wheels are worth enough that someone may try and steal them then it is easy enough to buy a longer chain.

  • @meridianherschel1618
    @meridianherschel1618 9 лет назад

    Why do you have that thing now? I'd say that having some marks on it from previous, unsuccessful attempts may deter other people of the villainous variety.

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 5 лет назад

      Meridian Herschel Owner wanted a new one, before the thief returned to grind a bit more in the wound. Or maybe the locksmith offered to buy it back for promotion.

  • @frankdoemen
    @frankdoemen 9 лет назад +2

    Wayne loves ASSA Twins haha

  • @EricsiPhone
    @EricsiPhone 9 лет назад +1

    Bill, you should know real security does exist. Something like the Abloy PL362 with a Protec2 core, Anchor Las 580-5 with a MCS or Protec2 core, Sargent & Greenleaf 833, or 951... Combine something like that with a 19mm or larger quality chain, and it's going to be tough to get past.

  • @frank9240
    @frank9240 5 лет назад

    Think about this.....just put a master lock #3 on anything, the reason being that locks nowadays are so complicated that why bother putting a real good lock on your stuff, that some idiot will just break into anyway....by then his head will already be blown off.........(go figure)

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 5 лет назад

      Frank Only if someone is around to blow their head off. Bicycles are typically locked in an unguarded parking lot for a whole day or night, giving thiefs plenty of time to do their worst.

  • @htomerif
    @htomerif 9 лет назад

    Sounds odd. Why would someone try to steal a motorcycle that was chained up? You're not going to get very far on foot. I suppose it could have been some vintage thing that doesn't require a key, but if you have a truck and a trailer already, it would be a bit dumb not to just have a cutting torch.

    • @josephcombes7058
      @josephcombes7058 8 лет назад +2

      +htomerif most people will acutally pick them up and put them into a van or pick up truck. happens quite frequently, and its quite easy to push a 400 pound motorcycle in a van with two or more people.

    • @alexk6126
      @alexk6126 8 лет назад

      It would draw so much attention...

    • @josephcombes7058
      @josephcombes7058 8 лет назад

      Alex Kahn its done within a minute tops, ive had friends with their bikes stolen outside of their house in their drive way.

    • @alexk6126
      @alexk6126 8 лет назад

      +joseph combes wait I was talking about using a torch to cut the chain. I totally believe people wheel them into the truck.

    • @josephcombes7058
      @josephcombes7058 8 лет назад

      Alex Kahn OH okay. yeah I don't think crooks would even bother with a locked up bike. plenty more fish in the sea.

  • @justinscobell
    @justinscobell 9 лет назад

    A+

  • @francisaltham1948
    @francisaltham1948 6 лет назад

    Abloy pl342 or 352 proteck 2 core

  • @FetteryJ
    @FetteryJ 9 лет назад

    good info....

  • @columbusknight3139
    @columbusknight3139 7 лет назад

    is it posible to pick a skeleton key lock?

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 5 лет назад

      Columbus knight A lot easier usually. Most "skeleton key locks" are warded locks or lever locks, and very few of those are secure (the only really secure ones I have seen were on actual safes). Pin tumbler locks were specifically invented as a safer alternative. Of cause there are quality differences in each category.

  • @danielbear3802
    @danielbear3802 9 лет назад

    good informative video as always bill

    • @lmars5933
      @lmars5933 9 лет назад

      he did a great job.

  • @ozzie444
    @ozzie444 2 года назад

    There's a RUclips channel called Brute4orce. He made 2 cuts in the shackle in about 15 seconds with a $30 set of Harbor Freight bolt cutters. So much for that.....eh?

    • @ozzie444
      @ozzie444 2 года назад

      Sorry...the channel is Brute4rce....cut through in only 15 seconds....true story as Joe Brandon likes to say....lol.

    • @ozzie444
      @ozzie444 2 года назад

      My mistake. The name of the RUclips channel is Brute4rce. Yea only about 15 seconds and cut through in two places.....lol.

  • @MultiHamguy
    @MultiHamguy 9 лет назад

    I love your videos

  • @Torskel
    @Torskel 9 лет назад +1

    Swedish quality :P

  • @alittlehair3056
    @alittlehair3056 5 лет назад

    run the lock over with car

  • @MultiHamguy
    @MultiHamguy 9 лет назад

    Ps first

  • @uzipoventezinko5008
    @uzipoventezinko5008 9 лет назад

    lolzzz lock up one of your kids with it that was great ok... now please sir bosnianbill help me on this one please !!! is this the same lock your talking about in tour video i feel the chain is the same or almost the same but is the lock on this web site the same as in your video thanks in advance sir. thats the web site i saw the chain and lock together as deal put together ... www.westechrigging.com/pewag-security-chain-038-kit-3.html

  • @thalivenom4972
    @thalivenom4972 9 лет назад

    i also love your channel bill, along with that other guy, and your mama :P