Subscribed. I meant to having watched you on New Year's Eve! I thought Lord Lucan was going to be sat there when you opened it. BTW, tell the white van, builders, that live in static travellers caravans, that the quickest way in is to cut off the hinges 🙂
Have you ever thought about using carbide drill bits? We use them in CNC machines, they can drill through anything but they are very brittle so its hard to use in a hand drill as any little side movement can snap them. There are some bits out there that have steel shanks with carbide changable inserts (tungaloy make good ones) and since you are using your magnetic drill stand, it might be precise enough to drill through without breaking.
@PetesShredder some of these drills are carbide tipped that's OK for a hard metal but they make a composition of Aluminium stone and metal to hinder and slow down, but I do some cnc stiff myself as seen those bits with changeable tips with coolant holes.
@PetesShredder I use a mixture of a tool steel tip and a TCT bit, the barrier material is designed to blunt your bits and grab them so they shatter, some safe have carborundum nugget fused in Aluminium or copper, there is a lot of technology in the body's of high grade safes to hinder drilling, cutting and touches
@jonbottoms8988 here ATMs are different, but I don't get involved in those I mainly work on high grade safes and vaults, I also do a lot of upgrade work like drilling holes to fit additional safe locks or rebuilding safes and vaults
The high security SLS safes had all 5 walls of the body poured as one casting. The casting incorporated ‘nuggets’ of materials designed to withstand drilling, amongst other technology. Drilling these safes is no walk in the park.
@whathasxgottodowithit3919. I have othe mags and vacuum rigs too. This I started off with a limpet and went to free hand as I kept sharpening so easy for me to feel what's going on
@TheIronHeadRat this did have front glass. They can have side glass so that why I looked for it with the scope, but if I couldn't see that I'd have to assume it could have it, it's never a great option to break the glass on purpose but sometimes that the only access you have, so I'd be thinking about moving the safe out to make better access. This is why I always ask for photos of safe showing surrounding area to look at the best approach. There isn't a standard method to open a lot depends on how the safe is situated, the model and grade, and what lock is fitted, both these digital locks are after market locks so not what it would have left the factory with
Add an extra couple of hours on, and sometimes you have to punch the glass to drill the lock due to a malfunction maybe but you always have to prepare first before breaking any glass, I know of someone who shut a heavy door to hard and one of the glasses broke (bad days).
@repairtech9320 yes, a factory repair can be made using a hardened plug and welded in place, on site it's not always possible to weld so a cold repair with a hardened steel plug
@@MrKelocks Thanks for the reply. A "plug" makes a lot of sense. I didn't think about that way of fixing the breach. I have a level 1 ATM safe to repair and I was puzzled about which way to go about it. Replace the 2 armored plates... (with traps) or weld the hole with hard-facing electrodes. A plug will give me a better finish. Thanks for the tip.
@repairtech9320 there was a recommendation for repair for UK safes back in the day, but as far as I'm aware it hasn't been updated. You can also step the hole with a larger drill drilled half way in the existing hole and put a ball bearing in it, and fill both sides with a metal plug, dowel, or tap a hole and force in a bolt and cut it off. They use to sell plugs with a ceramic insert. There is a lot of debate of best way to plug a hole but I go for a hard plug hole to make it harder to reopen a hole. Most of the hole I put in safe you would need an endoscope and knowlage on how to open the safe though the existing hole
@Jeno7610 water is best coolant but only if it's a solid metal your drilling, it can be used to flush debris out the hole mind, but my spray bottle has be taken so I don't have it at the moment, it can be messy at a customers location too, bit ok in the yard / workshop
Rather than drill, do you ever try to manipulate the dial to crack the code, or is it not worth the time, where you may - or may not - achieve success?
@ralph5476 this was a digital lock so I did all I could do before it got drilled, a mechanical com lock I would try to manipulate and key locks I pick open
@Subgunman code was lost, this is a proper safe lock so the only codes that will open are the ones programmed into it unlike some of the cheaper ungraded stuff you may come across in the USA or from the Chinese import market
You probably can't tell us But the digital "lock" interacts with the safe in some way.. Surely the lock removed allows you to do what it does just without the electronically stuff
Interesting video. Would have been nice to see the end of the tool you were using on the cylinder. Also, when you are setting up, place the camera somewhere to start rather than holding it, the moving around is annoying.
My intension was not to show the tool as it would be irresponsible to show it in the public domain. In the locksmith trade, similar tools already exist so would be something g a Locksmith would already be aware off. Teaching non vetted locksmith can only lead to problems and this has happened in the past acrross the world. The purpose.of the video is to bring exposure that a professional will open your safe in the most non destructive was as possible, some one turning up to cut holes in with a grinder will just make opening the safe a lot harder
@@MrKelocks I got the funny..meaning the right angle for best performance. Just thought it might also have the second meaning as well as a shout out to the Brothers.
@mshort7087 actually no, the body of the safenis made up of composit materials, deping on what it is you don't want a spit point, and you may want a shallower rake or sharper but that's really only for mild to harder metal, then the web thickness can save the drill bit from breaking or melting, but it's a constant sharpen and change
Another tough opening there Mr Kelocks - well done!
@@locklab101 thanks
Subscribed. I meant to having watched you on New Year's Eve!
I thought Lord Lucan was going to be sat there when you opened it.
BTW, tell the white van, builders, that live in static travellers caravans, that the quickest way in is to cut off the hinges 🙂
Was watching til the end for the big reveal of gold bars or saucy photos of Princess Mags ... what a letdown! lol
It’s much quieter in the movies!
Great job as always 👏
Have you ever thought about using carbide drill bits? We use them in CNC machines, they can drill through anything but they are very brittle so its hard to use in a hand drill as any little side movement can snap them. There are some bits out there that have steel shanks with carbide changable inserts (tungaloy make good ones) and since you are using your magnetic drill stand, it might be precise enough to drill through without breaking.
@PetesShredder some of these drills are carbide tipped that's OK for a hard metal but they make a composition of Aluminium stone and metal to hinder and slow down, but I do some cnc stiff myself as seen those bits with changeable tips with coolant holes.
@@MrKelockshere in the US they are using the same composite safes for outside ATM’s
@PetesShredder I use a mixture of a tool steel tip and a TCT bit, the barrier material is designed to blunt your bits and grab them so they shatter, some safe have carborundum nugget fused in Aluminium or copper, there is a lot of technology in the body's of high grade safes to hinder drilling, cutting and touches
@jonbottoms8988 here ATMs are different, but I don't get involved in those I mainly work on high grade safes and vaults, I also do a lot of upgrade work like drilling holes to fit additional safe locks or rebuilding safes and vaults
Tkzz for sharing.,.,.,,.peace
Propper! Well done
They sometimes use cast alloy in the walls?
The high security SLS safes had all 5 walls of the body poured as one casting.
The casting incorporated ‘nuggets’ of materials designed to withstand drilling, amongst other technology.
Drilling these safes is no walk in the park.
@ I did manage to get in one! Took hours of work!
So can the locks be repaired or is the safe just junk now?
@glasslinger safe was repaired and put backninto full working order
@@MrKelocks Did you make money on the deal? That was a LOT of work!
@glasslinger this was opened for a safe company who sold it, it's not that un common work for me
A heavy Duty Mag Drill with a Chuckless key may assist in making the job easier
@whathasxgottodowithit3919. I have othe mags and vacuum rigs too. This I started off with a limpet and went to free hand as I kept sharpening so easy for me to feel what's going on
He doesn't need any advise as he is a world renowned (one of the best), not to mention he has two or three already, just saying like.
Where' is you're tool box with a couple of hundred drills neatly organised in side Jason.
Great job, thanks for sharing, 👍 what would have happened if you drilled it and it did have glass?
@TheIronHeadRat this did have front glass. They can have side glass so that why I looked for it with the scope, but if I couldn't see that I'd have to assume it could have it, it's never a great option to break the glass on purpose but sometimes that the only access you have, so I'd be thinking about moving the safe out to make better access. This is why I always ask for photos of safe showing surrounding area to look at the best approach. There isn't a standard method to open a lot depends on how the safe is situated, the model and grade, and what lock is fitted, both these digital locks are after market locks so not what it would have left the factory with
Add an extra couple of hours on, and sometimes you have to punch the glass to drill the lock due to a malfunction maybe but you always have to prepare first before breaking any glass, I know of someone who shut a heavy door to hard and one of the glasses broke (bad days).
Brilliant as always
Thanks
So, where is the paille of gold I had there.. 😂 😀 😂
@@ericduvan lol
Always tell the owner it was empty.
in the van lol
Hi, is it possible to repair the breach and make it as secure as before?
@repairtech9320 yes, a factory repair can be made using a hardened plug and welded in place, on site it's not always possible to weld so a cold repair with a hardened steel plug
@@MrKelocks Thanks for the reply. A "plug" makes a lot of sense. I didn't think about that way of fixing the breach.
I have a level 1 ATM safe to repair and I was puzzled about which way to go about it. Replace the 2 armored plates... (with traps) or weld the hole with hard-facing electrodes. A plug will give me a better finish. Thanks for the tip.
@repairtech9320 there was a recommendation for repair for UK safes back in the day, but as far as I'm aware it hasn't been updated. You can also step the hole with a larger drill drilled half way in the existing hole and put a ball bearing in it, and fill both sides with a metal plug, dowel, or tap a hole and force in a bolt and cut it off. They use to sell plugs with a ceramic insert. There is a lot of debate of best way to plug a hole but I go for a hard plug hole to make it harder to reopen a hole. Most of the hole I put in safe you would need an endoscope and knowlage on how to open the safe though the existing hole
@@MrKelocks I Would love to see the face of another Safe Tech having to use the same hole in the future after you have plugged it lol.
Can I ask why you don't use coolant on the drill bit? Just curious 😢
@Jeno7610 there was no need, you can flush with water if you want but that mainly applies to metal, I had composite in this safe. But I didn't need it
@MrKelocks Thanks for the reply I was thinking it might jam the inside up or something with wet filings.
@Jeno7610 water is best coolant but only if it's a solid metal your drilling, it can be used to flush debris out the hole mind, but my spray bottle has be taken so I don't have it at the moment, it can be messy at a customers location too, bit ok in the yard / workshop
That twist in the cord of your drill is really troubling me.
It keeps it out of your way....
Rather than drill, do you ever try to manipulate the dial to crack the code, or is it not worth the time, where you may - or may not - achieve success?
@ralph5476 this was a digital lock so I did all I could do before it got drilled, a mechanical com lock I would try to manipulate and key locks I pick open
@@MrKelocksI would assume the digital locks failed otherwise the manufacture could supply you with a factory code.
@Subgunman code was lost, this is a proper safe lock so the only codes that will open are the ones programmed into it unlike some of the cheaper ungraded stuff you may come across in the USA or from the Chinese import market
You probably can't tell us
But the digital "lock" interacts with the safe in some way..
Surely the lock removed allows you to do what it does just without the electronically stuff
@jasonudall8614 the digital lock blocks the bolt work mechanisum, in this case it was blocking and had an anti burglar decice connected to it
Busses are a well known means of amputation, in the same way that ladders are a well known way to remove eyes!
Was your dad a horse? Of course.
I question my life daily!
A lubricant will help extend the life of your drill bits.
@whitcwa keeping it cold helps with water, I did dip the bit in cutting paste
Interesting video. Would have been nice to see the end of the tool you were using on the cylinder. Also, when you are setting up, place the camera somewhere to start rather than holding it, the moving around is annoying.
My intension was not to show the tool as it would be irresponsible to show it in the public domain. In the locksmith trade, similar tools already exist so would be something g a Locksmith would already be aware off. Teaching non vetted locksmith can only lead to problems and this has happened in the past acrross the world. The purpose.of the video is to bring exposure that a professional will open your safe in the most non destructive was as possible, some one turning up to cut holes in with a grinder will just make opening the safe a lot harder
Sacred Geometry.....is that a UK way to say you are a member of the Mason Lodge?
@edbloom4897 well I guess lol, but it was more of a funny
@@MrKelocks I got the funny..meaning the right angle for best performance. Just thought it might also have the second meaning as well as a shout out to the Brothers.
@edbloom4897 have you seen the Chatwood Impregnabe display I did (video short)
That geometry would be a 118* angle with an undercut, I would guess?
@mshort7087 actually no, the body of the safenis made up of composit materials, deping on what it is you don't want a spit point, and you may want a shallower rake or sharper but that's really only for mild to harder metal, then the web thickness can save the drill bit from breaking or melting, but it's a constant sharpen and change
Put yourself a new chuck on that dang drill
@@petenikolic5244 lol
Cracking…..👍😂