ATC gets angry with a BA pilot at Dublin
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2014
- • British Airways pilot ... See another BA pilot angry at Dublin above!
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Schrodinger 845: we're simultaneously ready and not ready.
chris, now that's funny!
This comment deserves much more love.
Best of all comments!
Chriiiiis! Bloody brilliant.
Why isn't this the most liked comment on the video
Legend has it speedbird 845 is still doing his checklist on runway 28.
Damn brits. Want everyone else to wait on them. I've heard their TWR and ATC comms in the US. BA's shit don't stink, according to BA.
All these idiots that posted here don't have the facts which happen so often here on youtube. They investigated this and found out that the control was at fault. She had to go back for retraining. Got it!! Why? Because she was talking to the wrong plane with a similar call sign. Now all you idiots own this captain a beer.
I would like to know if he took off after his clearance or of it again took some minutes.
Probably because the ATC bitch is still yammering!
CaptainArt777 your lie doesnt fit.
"We're fully ready, we just have to do a few more things first, but we keep getting interrupted. But we're fully ready. Just not yet."
@KingInky13 sounds a bit like ol' Donnie Trump, dunnit?
@Guss Ruffee - did I upset you, cupcake? Tough. Get your head out of your pants.
watson956: You're the one acting like a cupcake. Not that cupcakes have craniums, but were you to have one, it surely would be filled with air.
@@watson956 No. It doesn't needle head. Get that bean bag you have on your shoulders sewn up.
This kid is just another idiot making his opinion not based on facts. Read my post given to the guy above. It was the controller fault and she had to go back for retraining. Got it. Talking to the wrong plane with a similar call sign. You people are so stupid. Get the facts first!!!
As an Englishman with an Irish mammy this made me feel like I was in trouble.
+Iain Holder They should put you in the cockpit of this flight. You would vacate the runway as soon as the lady gave you a glanced. :P
Rumour has it he’s grounded for a month!
You did mean "nanny"? did you not? Mammy went out with Al Jolson.
There's a certain tone Irish women get when you've crossed a line. It's hard to say exactly what it is, but if you know it, it's like the stick-shaker activating: You know you need to start flying very carefully right now.
Yes, exactly that tone. This gal running ATC ground & same pilot have a history of dueling. She always wins. He's always plays the fool.
"I'm ready to depart.... We're just getting some more fuel and I have to go to the bathroom, standby!"
lol
whataboutredlorry that sounds like my wife!!!
“Oh and a quick cuppa before I nap standby”
If ATC tells you to vacate the runway, you vacate the runway.
We are fully ready for departure. We just applied handlotion and need to wait for our hands to dry and make a short video of all those go arounds over our heads.
Well, it is british Airways, what do you expect
@@nathanrigg2790 ouch..😁
if they would be in NY or LA they would hear magic phrase "possible pilot deviation" which may end pilot's career as a pilot.
norbert1636 they did hear that, they were given a number to “call” when they landed in London
If you haven't completed the check list then you aren't ready....DUH!!!
+joe bloggs They can't start the pre take-off checklists until they are cleared for take-off. DUHH!!!
That checklist is incredibly short, but airline procedure requires that they do it so they don't fucking crash the plane and kill everyone on board. The reason why you do it right before take-off is that if it's done earlier, then there's a chance something could change prior to take-off. It literally takes about 30 seconds to do. The ATC knew this and was being a bitch.
yea right.....don't make excuses for them..I assume you are a BA pilot. You guys get it wrong too at times....just in case you think you are infallible. Yea we all know about checklists...and they are to be completed at an appropriate time so as not to delay other aircraft. The so called pre take off check list has two parts...the first is done while taxying...the second part is done after take off clearance...and it takes 5 seconds..when you are cleared for take off...you line up and carry out the "below the line" part...you do not delay other traffic because you are in the middle of check lists....you simply say...not ready...thats it....I suggest you do some research before making accusations that have no substance whatsoever. You simply show your ignorance and lack of understanding.
+joe bloggs They was reading the checklist or the holly bible?lol Agree with you! here in Brazil we have some pilots that like to do it too and we need an ATC like this woman.
Jonathas Luciano Yea...its simply airmanship...and i'm surprised that a BA pilot didn't exercise it and even more surprised that his actions are being defended by a few on this post. It's quite simple really...if you are not ready...you say NOT READY....when you complete your checks down to the line..you call ready....once cleared to line up...below the line...every other airline has that...I'm sure BA too...seems this pilot thought he was in a world unto his own.
+joe bloggs Why so many experts post here that don't know what he is talking about. She was also talking to the wrong plane all this time kid!!!
Are you ready for departure?
British Airways: well yes, but actually no.
I've operated into and out of Dublin many many times (used to be based there). We all know, we all get to the hold point and have to delay while we wait for the cabin but having wound the controller up by taking ages (not really your fault - but you have to accept the problems you've created for the controller), you DO NOT then take an eon completing you checks and refuse to clear the way for people behind you. You swallow your medicine and if she needs you to get out of the way of people who are ready, get out of the way and apologise. To hold everybody up for as long as this crew did, just to avoid losing their place is selfish and unprofessional.
In addition, people have mentioned that taxi times can be short. The Aer Lingus terminal is VERY close to the runway, what do EI do? Do your checks before you move, clear everything except the cabin! Adapt your procedures to the situation guys...
Yes, it takes under a minute to taxi from some EI stands to 28/34. Nonetheless, you don't lie to the controller that you are ready, go onto the runway and say that you're still doing takeoff checks.
I’m not sure why the cabin crew would not be ready for take off when the aircraft has reached the runway. Even on an aer lingus flight from terminal 2 with a short taxi, the safety demo is completed during pushback or before then, and cabin secure check is completed during or before taxi, so from then on the crew are just waiting to be told to take their seats. Also BA usually operates from pier 2 or 3 at Dublin so they have a longer taxi thus more time, when EI flights can make do with less and still depart promptly.
I wonder from the pilot’s tone and attitude if controllers at Heathrow are more lenient and give BA flights more time because they’re the main airline there?
Don’t call ready if the cabin stewards are still running around. They have to react when the captain says take your seats for take off. The senior steward then reports. Then the aircraft is ready. Not before!
@@DublinAviation You’re an idiot.
I've had this same problem here in Italy. Someone will come up and put their groceries on the belt, then wander off to find the one or two things they forgot, keeping those behind waiting.
I'll tell you who was in the right here.....But hang on, let me finish my tea first....
Negative! Turn right onto runway 34...
Sky Traxx
Roger, Roger, now give me my clearance, Clarence....
*****
Hahaha! And waiting for that vector, Victor....
*****
Aaahhhh, the good old Lloyd Bridges! Imagine he was in the control tower speaking to this comedian pilot! Hilarious.
But he won't say much.....because they'd be expecting that.....
+groovANDsooth LMAO!!!!! I'm crying here.. typing through the tears... all the feckin' testosterone flying around from the posters above and then I get the image of Lloyd Bridges high on UHU.... ty Groov!
...a brief investigation followed and it quickly became clear the ATC was at fault - because while she thought she was talking to Speadbird845, turns out it was actually Slowpoke101.
Ba dum tss
Actually speedbird845 was doing nothing wrong because as the pilot he is required to insure the safety of his passengers and crew the controllers was at fault because she told those three aircraft to go around.
She asked the British airways that was clearly holdings shorts over them with 36 vacate on to 36 they wouldn't have crashed Second she also didn't know she was talking about in an airliner you don't go around you fly missed approach
....proof that while some are slowpokes, others are just...slow.
+96 Alpha At least in the U.S., Tower will normally instruct "Go around," not "Go missed." "Cancel approach clearance" also works, but "Go around" works for either IFR or VFR traffic. VFR traffic should overfly the runway, climb to pattern altitude, and then turn onto the crosswind. IFR traffic, upon being instructed to go around, should execute the published missed approach procedure (and follow any additional instructions issued by ATC.)
Pilot probably mastered the art of breathing and not breathing at the same time, too.
He needed to follow the first set of instructions given by the controller. Controllers see the full picture and pilots also need to be ready when they say they are.
If this is the quality of pilots we are producing that doesn’t make me feel very good.
"Speedbird 845, MOVE YOUR BLOOMIN' ARSE! Thank you."
When you've got checklists to run then you are not ready...and when you've got an ego to deal with, you're not fit in the cockpit
ATC: Are you ready
Speedbird: Yesn't
Lengend has it that he’s still doing his checks and they’re almost ready to take off...
"I'm ready to depart. I'm just doing checks."
What a complete tool.
You're ready to depart or not.
It's a very simple question; yes or No.
Doing Checks...
Nonsense.
its important to do checks
Go !
Nobody's saying it isn't. If you aren't ready though you need to comply with the controller's instructions. She was completely in the right and was very professional. I've flown airliners for a living since 1988 and these BA guys are embarrassing to the profession. Very bad form.
Speedbird 845 was clearly not ready to line up and depart, but the pilot equally clearly did not want to have his own departure delayed, which is what would have happened if he had followed ATC instructions (which he should have done) to vacate. He would have missed his slot and gone to the back of the queue. Instead he gave a series of delaying responses to he could complete his own checks and not lose his place.
You're clearly not ready if you're still running through checklists...
Sounded to me the Controller was in the right they should have done the checklist well before they enter the hold for 28.
You are wrong. She started to push them before line-up clearance. At holding point You can be not ready for departure yet for million of reasons. That's it. Even lining up the runway, when you declare that you are ready for departure, there are still few checks to do, but she was obviously chasing them already!
Most times when I travel, the checks are all done, the plane moves onto the end of the runway and floors it to take off, this guy was acting the maggot on Xmas Eve. I hope BA will have words with him. Not cool at all.
Sean R
There are checks that must be completed prior to lining up and when you are given line up clearance there are an additional set of cockpit checks to complete. These will include things like turning the lights on, turning anti-ice on, turning the air-conditioning off etc and then reading a checklist afterwards to check that it has all been completed properly. After this is all done they are ready to go. At this point the crew COULD have ignored her whilst they completed their checks and said 'say again' or something similar anticipating the take-off clearance.
Tofik Tofikian If thats the way you look at it, then stay at your position, don't taxi and only call fully ready when you are actually ready. There was no rush, they were simply given a chance to vacate the runway and do all the checks they like. They dismissed the instruction. Thats the whole point of this video and discussion.
Miles Harrison Turning air conditioning off??? I really hope not.
I bet he got his ass ripped open when he made that phone call.
This made me laugh. Thank you.
Wish we could hear *those* recordings!
I just love it how she kept absolutely professional and did not start yelling how it often happens here in the US.
Flight attendants may yell in the US but generally Pilots OBEY instructions from Control!!! When they don't they invariably mess up.
Lolz! Kennedy Steve would have had a field day with this pilot!
Moda fuka vacate rn or my bald eagle will come with the machine gun, man. I'm telling you, this shit ain't happening on my watch, man. You probably already even have the tower number.
especially new york
Madam ATC owned them like a total boss
"Do what I say!"
"Standby."
It's like when a mother tells her son to do something and he's like, "HANG ON MOM. JUST SAVING MY GAME."
Saving your game is a need, no chore is as urgent as to turn your console off without saving your game before.
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor takes 4 seconds to lose 4 hours of progress 😔
The pilot did say ready, then not ready. Its their fault, also the cabin naffed up as well, they should have been ready before that point
ewandougie the word 'control' as part of her career title should be a clear indication to all that this is the person with the last say on the runway, taxiway airport terminal as the 'controller' it is s/he who hold the ultimate say-so and this pilot was being uncourteous, impolite, and sarcastic and that is not befitting of any so-called professional who knows fully that he has broken the rules and decides to be smart assed with the controller! what a complete wanker!
The pilot has ONE aircraft to fly.
The cabin crew may have HUNDREDS of passengers to try and herd ( half of which are Idiots, as you have learned by now ) ! . . . - - - . . .
The pilot doesn't know what the word "Ready" means.
Wait, I'm ready. Yeah, wait, I'm not ready. Hold on, I'm almost ready. Now I'm ready but I'm not ready. Wait, I'm not ready. Yes, I'm ready, stop interrupting me. No, I'm not ready. Wait, I'm ready but I'm not ready but I'm ready. Ok I'm ready..... Wait.
Lemmy is God.
I remember when this video had 100 views! Still, great catch! :)
Bizarro World: A woman frustrated by a man saying, "I AM ready to leave, I just need 5 more minutes."
It's not about the checks or the pilots, it's that the company has this idiotic pre-takeoff procedure where the pilot needs to call someone (their dispatch, I suppose) that OKs the departure. I had serious problems with them, messing up the sequence and had to move them back to the ramp.
They get a provisional load sheet prior to push and start, this is ann estimate. The real one comes on taxi but obviously can be late. Due to the short taxi BA Operations mightn't have had time to give it to them, therefore he was "stalling" the takeoff perhaps! Hope you enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed catching it! :)
Thank you, that's helpful. I thought they used the local load office.
Dino Alberini At least you still kiss your wife LOL
Ron Patterson How could it miss the one who ruins the line?
I thought the Ground controller gives permission for the engine start up and push back. I think the pilot just dod not want to delay his take off slot and was doing his pre take off checks during that period between push back and taxi then the departure controller intervened and quite rightly told the pilot to move his ass off the departure route.
Best bit: I've just got a phone call, standby. I was waiting for "Let me finish polishing my nails, standby" - is receiving phonecalls on the Before takeoff checklist?
Yep, CAA law dictates that all pilots must phone their mum before take-off, so she knows they are safe.
:)) there was, actually 2 planes on final, at the end of video it says that 2 planes did 'go around'.
It's the "cabin secure" call from the pursor... Kind of an important call. Nonetheless, the pilots were in the wrong. I always give a heads up if we're still waiting on the back end so we're not impeding traffic while we're not ready to go.
@@dropthepuck88 the pursor shouldn't be calling the cockpit whilst the aircraft is lined up on the active runway...I have a feeling this arrogant pilot initiated that call, not the pursor
Accepting line up clearance before you have cabin secure is a big no no. BA flight crew clearly took a punt on getting the secure call promptly but didn't, having been told to vacate that's what they should have done. Having an argument over the air just makes them look unprofessional, if one of our crews had done this our management team would have been less than pleased.
you do realise on an A319 there's 130+ variables as to your ability to call ready, right? cockpit could get the green from the cabin, to then find one of them decided it'd be fun to run to the toilet, or get their laptop out their bag. then they're no longer ready. can't help that as pilots once you're on the runway. got to go with whatever happens.
they definitely held their ground and stayed when maybe they shouldn't, but if there's more research done into this, you'll know that the RWY she proposed to vacate to was inactive. some Airbus fleet also have line up checks, so you may be ready at E1, but you still have stuff to do as you're lining up or waiting.
this is a bit hoo-har about really nothing.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW THE MAIN POINT HAS BEEN LOST IN THIS THREAD: PILOTS MUST OBEY CONTROL; IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CONTROL THEY CAN TAKE IT UP WHEN THEY GET HOME; WHILE ON THE AIRFIELD THEY MUST FOLLOW CONTROL COMMANDS!!!
"Point of order", I didn't realise the pilot of Speedbird 845 was a parliamentarian!
ATC: Speedbird 845 will you yield?!
Speedbird 845: I will not yield!
Like a motion to adjourn the meeting , an instruction to vacate the runway does not call for a debate.
100% the pilot's fault.
100% the ATC lady's fault and that's why she had to get retrained. Take the L.
@@Dunny2k the pilot was the one that got retained dumbass
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
we are fully ready, we just need to start engine n.1
He didn't follow ATC instructions, occupied the runway, made 2 planes go-around, he should be degraded to FO! & BA should have been fined!
Speedbird 845: "Were just doing our checklist we wont be long"
ATC: *Negative turn tf onto runway 34 NOW!*
Speedbird 845: *"WHY DONT YOU COME AND MAKE ME!"*
LOL, but I think Madam ATC was much more professional than that
*Happiest of New Years to my favorite Dublin ATC Lady*. I bid you a safe and healthy 2017, and trust you're still there ably and coollyl keeping the Speedbirds (and Slowpokes) in order. :)
If Ronnie Pickering had been the pilot there would have been trouble here.
It would be interesting to see (or hear) how Kennedy Steve would have handled this sort of situation.
That pilot is very disrespectful
If I was traffic controller, I would just decline his takeoff and tell him to get off the taxiway
You cannot do checks while taxiing; that is to be done upon pushback
Holding up the line of other planes
You can and do do checks while taxiing, there is a specific 'line up checklist' which you do when lining up on the runway, but I do agree this is simply taking the piss and very unprofessional.
There's lineup checklist which is usually just 2-3 items and afaik you can do it even before you line up, i.e. when next for departure. For A320 it's tcas and pack
@@Joeyglidemost lineup checklists would be completed by the time you line up with the runway, considering you do it immediately after you receive the line up clearance.
@@williamduncan7401 My company lineup checklist for the A320 is 4 items, 'cabin - secured for takeoff' being the first. You don't start the lineup checklist before you are cleared to line up. But you are correct in thinking that it is very short and will be completed prior to actually being lined up with the center line.
@@UnitedFerrariLakers You are correct that the line up checklist is normally completed prior to actually being lined up with the center line. I think the control thinks he has some long and extended checklist they need to complete and the pilot could have worded this differently to make them aware it is just the line up checks which needed doing.
Good grief.......do your checks when you are first in line and be ready.
Why she simply didn't cancel his takeoff clearance after second call to vacate the rwy...?
Weird, not realizing I had seen this before and commented; I did it again having the same feelings of indignation. I certainly qualify as a genuine bore
haha, the youtube orbit. we've all done it ;-p
Is it time for another rewatch?
When ATC tells you to do something the FIRST time you repeat the instructions back to them and then comply. The only exception is when the pilot can conclude that the instructions would compromise safety. I'm surprised the pilot had the nerve to antagonize the controller this way.
+Robert Hollander Another so call expert that has no idea what he is talking about.
+CaptainArt777 Another moronic statement. You think the controller was at fault in Tenerife, don't you? That pilots coming in and out of an airport can just do as they please and control should just shut up and twiddle their thumbs? There is a reason it's called CONTROL and it's life or death for over 8 million people a day. You do as you are told, or you get out of the job.
CaptainArt777 Who are you calling a "so-called expert?" If it's me, I don't claim to be an expert. I'm simply a licensed pilot with instrument rating and about 1500 hours. This certainly doesn't make me an expert but I do have some experience in dealing with ATC.
+CaptainArt777 The only time a pilot can over-rule ATC is in the event of an emergency. That does not mean they have the final say. One of the very first things you learn in ATC is obviously that an emergency takes number one priority. A pilot will communicate the situation to ATC, be it fuel emergencies or a cabin depressurization or engine failure, requiring an immediate descent. ATC will in turn instruct the pilot in landing quickly and safely. So no, The Captain does not always have the final word. And a Captain that directly disobeys ATC instruction (minus emergencies) should not be a Captain. If you practise what you preach and If you really are a pilot, I'd report you in a heartbeat.
David Dunleavy You are so stupid and not a pilot. There are so many of you idiots thinking you know it, but you don't know shit. Done with you. Not going to debated someone that is that stupid in the aviation world.
We're fully ready to depart, just boarding the last few passengers now.
This does not give much confidence it ATC/Pilot relations. I do hope events like this are very rare?
Extremely rare, that's why this video is so popular now because it just never happens to this extent.
+Dublin Aviation You may wish to pass along the very positive comments coming from those watching the video. Not only did the other pilots support her, so many aviation nuts that love controller to aircraft communications give her an A+ for her professionalism and patience. She is a credit to the very best in her profession
Little British Airways. ("Are you ready for departure?" Captain Vicky Pollard: "Yeah, but... No but yeah but, no, but yeah...") xx SF
Computer says no
Just like trying to get a 6 year old to bed at night... Every excuse in the book!!
Ok first of all, he was rude, second of all being "ready" means no delay when there are 2 aircraft behind you. Glad they had a talk with him over that, not acceptable.
Being haughty, rude and arrogant is what they do.
prophetsnake who do may I ask?
@@carwyngriffiths Brits
prophetsnake aren’t you being rude by saying that though? Do you even know a Brit? Probably not to mention you more 5an likely have british blood within you. You’re just another Brit hater.
Why couldn't the BA pilot just do as he was told!! If he's doing checks he's not ready and should vacate the runway and let other planes which are ready depart. It's like teaching Junior Infants........"I'm first miss!!"
You're not fully ready if you still have checklists to run!!!!
Shit hits the fan when they say “tree times” 😬
Many things can preclude a take off but Speebird should have vacated the runway when instructed to do so.
That pilot was hilarious!! He just takes his time casually as anything without a single care in the world.
That's because he's typical English old boy, won't let a Paddy or anyone else who's not English tell him what to do.
He was potentially dangerous, anything but hilarious
@@Luton-Mick us old school Aussies are similar
Let them do the bloody checklist !
I never expected some captains may act like this, that's weird!!!
nice video anyway...
As a pilot, when ATC gives you a direct command , you have to obey unless you cant for safety. They control the airspace and you can expect trouble if you refuse to follow instructions.
Apart from this was the ground ....
@@MSFSFreeware Ground is still ATC guy
@@KDill29 What? You must have not read the OP's comment ... he was talking about airspace, and I was saying this was ground ATC
@@MSFSFreeware The clue is in the name for you: "Air Traffic Controller"
Idk why you tried to be a smartass like the ground isn't ATC responsibility. Or you're just being a tool on purpose.
@@MSFSFreeware he was in a movement area... it is still ATC's jurisdiction...
You got a LIKE for asking so nicely x
you're not ready to go if you still have checklists to do.
I'm fully ready except for these 19 other things I need to do.
Actually the ATC was doing right.
Unless the controller is clearly making a fatal mistake, the pilots are supposed to follow the instructions from the controller.
"Unless the controller is clearly making a fatal mistake" yup there you go
@@ze2004 fatal mistake is to let brits operate aircraft in safety compromising manner.
"You just keep interrupting our checks" ... What an effrontery
Everyone has to do checks. Try reading up about it.............
Jeez - checklist CIGARS: Controls, Instruments, Gas (as in fuel to us not-Americans), Attitude, RUNUP and Safety. All the bits & checks should have been done already, yet "we're nearly finished doing our stuff - you stand by"! WTF?
There are checks must after the clear for takeoff
We are fully ready, I just have to go back in the cabin to take a dump and get a cup of coffee first.
"We are fully ready, we're completing the checklists"
daheck
whether they agree with it or not, airline pilots should immediately obey any instruction issued by tower.
Not entirely true. If you, the PIC, have reason to believe an instruction given by a controller may comprise the safety of an aircraft, you do have the right to refuse the instruction. No point in obeying something immediately if it means you smashing into the ground.
(sorry for the necro post)
@@notleks2411 this wasnt an example tho. Pilot just didnt want to lose his spot in line.
I’m completely ready I just haven’t started doing anything yet , stand by .
😱 He got the phone number 😱😱. He went to pilot time out 🤣
Strange for a Speedbird to do that. If it was his home base at EGLL or EGKK, the crew would rightfully expect to be crucified for blocking an active runway. I'm guessing they were having a really bad day but for some mysterious reason couldn't talk about it. It would be nice to let it go at that, except for the added danger of an overshoot to all the pax in the two aircraft who couldn't land and for those crews who had to fill out all the associated paperwork. Not cricket.
Yeah, maybe a bad day, or maybe a late night!!
Yes fully agree, usually BA are professionals
Whether the pilots were ready of not, once vacation of RWY was ordered by ATC pilots must comply unless physically unable. And whilst I love Speedbird, fully ready does not mean- still running checklists..thats only--kinda fully ready but not really but nearly there
Pilots know they're in deep $h!t when they get the *Telephone Number* to call.
I didn't hear anyone saying plonker or twat, so nobody was angry at all, LOL!
We are ready for departure we just need to build the aircraft, the engines should be here any day.
Typical BA!!
If you drive a truck and are held in a queue at their cargo sheds on Heathrow, you'll know what I mean.
One unfortunate Belgian had to wait for a week for his cargo!!! In the end it came out very badly damaged and he refused to take it. Theyre shite!!
Are you fully ready, fully fully ready, fully fully fully ready with a 100 page long checklist? Get out the way and go to the back of the queue Nigel so those fully 100% completely and utterly ready can get going.
I worked with a guy like that. Held every one up didn't think nothing of it. Until every one held him up. And kept holding him up. No one forgets selfish behavior
I just wonder if the pilot would get away with that at any UK airport. My guess is he wouldn't.
I doubt he got away with it here, don't you think the controller preserved that recording adding a complaint form to it? I don't know if he simply blew her off because she was a woman or because he could have cared less about plugging up the flow, or because he drives big pointy aluminum cocoons down cement cattle chutes, while simple controllers are just part of the airport machinery and don't count for much
I didn't know Boris Johnson was a former pilot at Ryan Air....
I've watched a couple of atc videos now but I don't understand what do they mean when they say about a number to call to ?
Yo Day it pretty much means they need to talk to the pilot as they did something wrong like in this instance
@@Tyleraviator99 oh okay thanks
It’s the equivalent of being sent to the principal’s office
The pilot was trying to make the air traffic controller wait, so that the pilot wouldn't lose his spot in line.
not being funny, but he kinda did have to complete his takeoff checklist, which has items past the point of 'enter the runway' or 'cleared for takeoff'
@Sinsearach did you even read my post lmao
That clearly wasn't the only checklist he was doing. They took longer part of a minute to be actually fully ready for take off. How does that work with "cleared for immediate takeoff"?
@@harrodharrod5239 she kept interrupting their checklist, they have to start again to ensure they don’t miss anything
This video is confusing without time stamps and explanation of exactly what was occurring. Why did the controller clear them for takeoff after ordering them to vacate the departure runway 28?
If he's finally ready to to go then clearing him for departure gets him out of the airport and out of ATC's hair.
That's what's known as chancing your arm. She handled it well.
This video probably features on pilot training programs now as a cautionary tale.
She was to nice. I would have told him to exit the runway and not keep going back and forth with the pilot.
ATC Richard,
I heard her instruct him 4 seperate times to exit. . . . - - - . . .
ATC wouldn't let them do final checks as every aircraft does at end of taxiway....interrruption, interruption !
that controller its a none sense headache. putting going around 2 airplanes in departure?
If I was ATC it would be: "Speedbird while you're still doing your checks look for a blanket and pillow as you're going to need it while waiting for another slot" Arrogant prick.
And here are all the internet pilots that have watched a few air crash investigation programs and know exactly what’s going 😋
hilarious but aint that the truth
While you make a valid point, one fact still doesn’t change. You can’t be “ready” if you’re not ready. When he was told to vacate to 34 he should have vacated to 34.
Wat a nice lady. She still kept her Kool. That's awesome. I wish this would have happened with Kennedy Steve.
BA Pilot: I am ready but I am not ready
where do you get these ATC recordings? Thanks.
Pilot was being an arse, during the taxi run to departure he should have had tie for his preflight checks, and held everyone up
She was wrong all the time not them...
he gets his junk of Al ready, He asks to leave. He should fo asap, What an arrogant sap
ATC was in the right and correct to be stern too, holding up other flights awaiting to depart was wrong by Speedbird 845
You are correct but i do have some sympathy with the pilot if there was a long Queue
No, please not the dreaded runway 34! Don't make me go there!