Ping G430 5 hybrid OR Callaway Paradym 5 hybrid?
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Today I test the 2023 Ping G430 hybrid and the Callaway Paradym hybrid on course at La Hacienda Golf Links in San Roque, Southern Spain.
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I bought a g410 7w a few years ago and loved it that much that I bought 5 and 6 hybrids to match. I've since bought a 9w and i210 irons, glide wedges and a tyne putter 🤣 not because I'm a ping fan per se, they're just such good clubs and so easy to use! The only non ping club I have is the mini driver, I don't like a big headed driver on a really long shaft.
Nice one Andy. I've used 4 and 5 hybrids for several years. I do have a tendency to over draw them though. So a few months ago I swapped to G425 4 and 5 hybrids. I find them so much straighter in the flat settings! Not many makes offer that flat lie option. I had also noticed my 6 and 7 irons only gapped on average by about 5 yards. So I have just added a 6 hybrid too. Gapping is now much better and more consistent.
As a lefty Ping gives me the most options! Especially with the 7 hybrid, can’t wait to get some new clubs!
Same for me - I'm a lefty too, and find Ping has more for me.
I've been playing hybrids for years and only carry 6-PW in my Irons, I love the versatility and dependability of hybrids.
Of the two that you are testing, I would go for the PING version every time👍👍
PS that location looks stunning👍👍
I've replaced my 3,4 and 5 irons with a 5 wood,7 wood,nine wood and I have an 11 wood in the mail from Callaway pre owned to replace my 6 iron!I'm going the full Michelle Wie West setup for this upcoming season and it's going to be a blast!
Sounds like some good moves! Good luck
I carry 12 clubs and if you count the putter 7 of them have headcovers 🤣 driver, 5,7 and 9w, 5 and 6h and then 8i to sw. I just want to get the ball in the hole with as little effort as possible and that's the set up that allows me to do it, don't care what anyone thinks.
She is my favorite Lady golfer. Michelle Wie rocks !!!!! I also carry an 11 wood because of her. Have for some time. That being said I have many hybrids and woods. I actually have the 4, 5, 7 , 9 and 11 woods. Hybrid set up similar. Golf is more fun with lots of options. Hope your playing well !!!! :). Joe
I have a driver swing speed of 110 and 5 iron is my longest iron , the hybrids are just so much easier to hit. When it comes to driver the paradym was a run away winner for me but the ping won out on fairway woods and hybrids .
Be great to see what your favourite “Cleveland” brand brings out in 2023 to replace the popular XL Halo HY-Wood Hybrid. Have a couple of friends down the local golf club that bought the Cleveland clubs in 2022 and they have all had great success using them.
I dropped my 4 and 5 irons 5 years ago and now use 24 degree hybrid and 7 wood. Best thing I ever did for my game.
I'm a 70yo mid handicaper. I game a 4 & 7w, 4 & 5h. I've even been checking out a chipper this winter in the wet Pacific NW, US. Enjoy Spain Andy!
Totally agree with you Andy, I’ve recently dropped my 5 iron and replaced it with a 22 deg hybrid. I’ve now used the hybrid more times in 3 weeks than I used the 5 iron in 12 months. 🤷♂️
I can completely relate to this comment
I went for a fitting yesterday to get a 4 iron replacement and walked away with a 26 degree Ping G430 hybrid. My 5 iron is 24 degrees and carries around 162 yards but the hybrid gaps perfectly in terms of distance so both are in the bag now.
I am partial to Ping hybrids and I think Ping did a much better job of hitting and staying in the target areas. That being said I have several Ping G 425 hybrids and they will be staying in the bag. Good review!!!
I hit my 5i and 4i the best in my bag ha ha. Cannot hit a hybrid to save myself, however have just ordered a 7w as woods seem to suit me much better.
I've had the same Ping Anser 2 hybrid and 3 wood in my bag for the past 12 years. Never felt the need to change them. I just bought a new set of Mizuno 923 Hot Metal irons in 5-gap wedge so I bought a G430 4 hybrid to replace the 4 iron. It's definitely much easier to hit than a 4 iron.
What loft?
I've been a ping fan for years in the irons & fairway woods, Not so much in the driver. Because I hit
the Callaway so much more consistent. Great review, I enjoyed, what a pretty coarse. Stay safe See Ya!
Really need this kind of review right now as I am in a quandary. I just turned 82, so it's time to consider options to regain some lost distance. Just had the shafts on my forged blades changed from 120 gram stiff Royal Precision Rifle Lite to 87.5 gram stiff Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 (actually the builder at my range has a lot of the heads and built a second set with the same heads so I can compare the two). Have not had a chance to play a round with the new shafts yet. But to my surprise and frustration, at the indoor practice bay hitting against the screen today, when I compared the 6 iron from the old vs the new set I found I got no gain with the lighter shafts, in fact hit the older heavier shaft just a bit longer. and neither gave me the few extra yards of carry I have been hoping to get. This might change after I become more used to the rather drastic change in shaft weight (swing weight is almost the same D4 in the old vs D3 in the new). In the past year I have added a 21 degree 7 wood in regular flex and recently a Callaway Paradym 24 degree 9 wood regular flex. Some of this is a response to recommendations you make along with others. The 7 wood is meant to replace my 3 and 4 irons. The 9 wood is meant to replace my 5 iron. Now the question is, should I think about a utility or hybrid to replace the 6 iron? In addition, would it be better to have a 26 degree hybrid instead of the 9 wood? I took a few shots at the indoor range screen today but will go back to do more complete testing. However, it seems I hit the 26 degree as far as the 24 degree 9 wood. If I can get a 15 yard gap between these long clubs rather than a 10 yard gap, it might be sensible. And a new Paradym hybrid would be less expensive than the Paradym 9 wood, which I can still return for full value in exchange.
Great vid Andy - of 4 ish - Miuras 6-G SM wedges - but like you - 5 Ping G30 so versatile and high launch and great out of light rough - but also Wilson 4 driving iron Hybrid S shaft which is superb fairway finder - then 5 and 7 wood - game changers 👍👍👍👊
Being a 66 year young woman, I need the height to gain the distance, so I’ve pushed the boat out, and ordered a complete set of Ping G430 HL’s. 6 iron right through to the 58* wedge. Max driver, 7 wood and 5 hybrid. Cannot wait for them to arrive.
Sounds like an excellent set up, I am sure you will be impressed
I am someone who hits a high ball naturally, so the Paradym 5 Hybrid at 25* has worked for me.
would love to see you do a Taylormade HD hybrid and a Titleist TSR2 hybrid....cheers.....great review by the way
What a beautiful course, you certainly look happy Andy! I have Ping G425 5 and 4 hybrids which are so reliable, i have a 3 hybrid (19 deg) which I find much harder to hit so I am trying out a 7 wood to see if that works better for me. My G425 SFT 3w is also super reliable. You have been a great advocate of all clubs that make the game easier Andy and it’s definitely helped me!
Just bought first hybrid...Ping 425 3 Hybrid....seems like perfect gap between 4iron P770 and 3 wood...go to club on short par 4s off the tee...and long Par 3s. Amazed how accurate off the tee.
Have 110-115 driver SS and stock shape a fade with all clubs apart from any hybrid I've tried which all hook. So tried a 7w as a 3 iron replacement and perfect fades, small head much better in the semi rough. So anyone who hooks hybrids, give a 7w and even 9w a try.
Save your money and get the Cleveland launcher xl halo hybrid. I just picked one up and it is the most forgiving club I've ever hit in 25+ years of playing golf. You could buy 2 for the price of the either the Ping or Callaway.
Yes another great option 👍
Cleveland highly underrated
CLEVELAND CLUBS ARE MADE FOR PEOPLE WHO WHO REALLY CAN’T AFFORD GOLF AND THAT COME FROM WHERE ELSE CLEVELAND 😂😂
As a 6 handicapper and an older golfer, I dropped my 4 & 5 irons for hybrids 3 years ago. Having played them (and my new 6 hybrid) over 175 rounds a year, I can easily say that ANYONE who is not playing hybrids is losing strokes. Easy to hit high, low cut, draw from fairway or rough. Lose the ego, play better.
I wanna be you when I grow up..I'm lucky to get 100 rounds in a year.
My 6 iron is my 190-200 club but for some reason I cannot hit a 5 iron to save my life. Every once in a blue moon I will flush one but it is rare. You got any pointers on what hybrid would be a good replacement?
Great video. Please keep the solid material coming. As far as clubs go I have ping driver, ping woods, ping irons, a ping wedge, ping putter. I was attempting an all ping kick for a while which started with the driver and putter. But when it comes to the hybrids I tried and tried in every setting but did not get along with g425 hybrids. I think they are amazing clubs in the hands of better golfers than I. I do however get along pretty darn good with the 6, 7, 8 callaway rogue st max hybrids and the callaway 3 super hybrid. I am now considering a paradym 4 or 5 hybrid to fill the gap between the 3 super hybrid and rogue st max 6 hybrid. How would you say paradym 4 hybrid stacks up against a rogue st max 4 hybrid out on the course? I did have a chance to hit a paradym 4 hybrid on a simulator at a local golf shop and I was really digging the looks, sound, feel, and results. Is paradym the next version of rogue st max or are they two completely different lineups geared toward different golfers? Very confusing.
Great watch Andy what a stunning course love those down hill fairways to the green
I've had a Cobra 5 iron hybrid for years now as really struggled to hit my traditional 5 iron and then added a 3 & 4 hybrid to my bag. I'm a btter golfer now but still can't still myself going back to a traditional iron for 5iron+
I go driver, Callaway UW’s at 17 and 21 degrees, then Mizuno JPX 923 hybrids at 23 and 26 degrees. Then I go into 7 iron. I’ve got plenty of speed, I just find the UW’s and hybrids much more forgiving to hit.
Great review and 2 great clubs forsure. Ping takes it fit me but both great options
Always play 4H instead of 4I, just fitted for ping 430, can’t wait for delivery now.
Really impressive line up, enjoy
Fabulous course. Intrigued by the G430. Love that higher ball flight. Cheers Andy.
Thanks 👍 course awesome
Great views on that course in Spain.
Nice comparison on a nice course. Interesting with the bump and run up the green .
It’s not a shot I play as often as I should, always produces better results than my wedge!
I dunno, there seems to be a strange assumption that everyone needs hybrids. I’ve played them for years but I know golfers who are very similar to me but absolutely crush their 3 and 4 irons and can’t stand hybrids. I’m glad the stigma has gone but let’s not pretend hybrids are the as answer for everyone.
I have the Cleveland launcher XL halo irons and I ditched my 5 iron and 6 iron believe it or not for the g430 4 and 5 hybrid because they are the same loft. What are your thoughts on replacing 6 iron with the equally lofted 5 hybrid!? I’m a 20 hdcp. Thanks!
The look of the Callawat is far more appealing to me vs the Ping. That said, the sound of both club are very nice.
Prefer look of Ping and sound of Callaway 😂
Andy - you mentioned they were the same loft. The Paradym 5h is 24* and the G430 5h is 26*. 2* definitely accounts for the ball speed, height, carry and spin difference. Of those two I’d take the Ping all day.
I adjusted the loft on the Ping
I might be jumping the gun, but I was wondering if you have tried the cobra one-lenght #5 hybrid (or similar loft as these two). The reason I ask is that I am thinking the shaft in the one=lenght should be even shorter, and I think that might be even better for a lot of people!
Great video. Just what I was wanting to see.
Good comparison Andy. For some reason I just can't get on with glossy head finishes, so I'd prefer the Ping over the Callaway. Currently playing PXG 0211 Gen 4 - 3 and 7 wood. Love them both.
Yeah I prefer the Matt finish
Me too, I really dislike gloss finishes on any club. Even bright chrome finish irons are a no no.
Great impact location! 2:31
Have you had a chance to check out the 430 HL version?? Maybe compare to the regular 430? Thanks for all your videos!
Did you ever compare the type of shafts in each club?
I have a low 100s clubhead speed with driver. I play a 4-5h, 7 wood, and a 5 wood. I tend to lead the handle and while I can hit a 4 and 5i fine, it's just so much easier to launch a hybrid.
I think the same for many golfers
Hi Andy. Hybrids seems to be easier to hit. But what are they like in blustery weather?.
Have 4,5,6 G425 hybrids wanted a 7 in the same series no longer available so considering the newer version don’t know if it will be very different from the 425.
Love your videos, Andy. It's great to see someone like yourself review clubs in realistic settings rather than just on a simulator. As for the hybrids, I prefer the way the Ping looks at address. It's more subtle and looks better to my eye. I used to play with G410s and never really took to them. My misses were both ways and never could get confident with them. I'm now playing with Cleveland XL Halos which I really like. Much more accurate. Only reason I'm considering switching is I'd like to put a 30* in my bag and Cleveland's highest loft is 27*. I'm going to give these Pings a try soon!
Thanks Nick and good luck
Stunning scenery. There is a Gary Player clinic video where he states most golfers at not good enough to hit 5i properly and you should throw away the 3&4i unless you are a Pro golfer
Beautiful course….me and Gary on same page 😂
Thanks Andy 4 another very helpful golf club strategy. I was wondering if you could also share your fairway wood strategy…. Do U
PERFER a 5 wood or 3 wood N bag ? And what advantages do U see N the performance of both ? Thanks
Filmed a few of these, very much in favour of the loft on the 5 wood, all round more flexible club in bag
@@TheAverageGolfer Thanks you very much for your response. I will take a look through your library of pass videos and review it. Thanks again,
Regards!
I like my irons, I can see at some point, these may appeal however
Love my Adams Pro 4 hybrid - newer clubs may of course be better! My irons start at 6 iron !
Not necessarily better Fergus
What club are you currently carrying in your bag for this distance? Thank you again for an informative video
The TaylorMade 5 DHY 👍
@@TheAverageGolfer thank you. I'm on the verge of changing my 5 iron out as well and having 6 as my longest iron
I'm sorry Andy, but I could not focus with the beautiful background of the ocean. Soooo jealous!
Far better view than looking at me Brent
Andy, so you're back home playing a links course and it's windy. Which one would you have in the bag?
If I played links golf…..neither
The problem is that clubs meanwhile became unaffordable and with that pushing golf once again into the "posh and snob" category, being a sport for rich people only. Honestly, I can not afford it any longer and have to get clubs from 2 years before (which you cannot get fitted for any longer) or used once, and that sucks. And as I never ever win anything, I really have to wait 2 years... Oh, and what a fantastic hole at 10:50. Would love to play the course!
Loved the review! getting fitted currently and chose the Ping G430 irons. Stopped at the 6 iron. Plan on finishing the fitting when I get the full set delivered. The Ping G430 driver and the Callaway Paradym drivers were neck and neck! Ping had a softer feel off the face and I ended up with the LST version in my hand. Both were extremely forgiving with mishits! Taylormade Stealth 2 was close, but lost on the mishits. Very interested in looking at the gapping and distance with the two brands. My fitter did not have the Paradym woods delivered at this time. I will not be surprised to choose the Ping hybrids for the 4 & 5 iron. Then flipping to Callaway for the woods. Currently playing a Callaway Epic 3 wood that smoked the Ping G430 version. My fitter even stated that is going to be hard to beat.
Now that’s Winter golf, Gibraltar in the distance I think.👍
Yes your correct on Gibraltar 👍
Clearly it’s the weight placement accounting for the differences. The callaway has that weight up front whereas the ping has it pushed back. I prefer the shape of the callaway. Ping sits too flat and is better suited for a more sweeping swing.
just joined at the 1.99 level but wish I could more my friend
I can't hit long irons for some reason andy I prefer to use my lynx 5 wood and my lynx 3 hybrid I think I wud love hybrid irons
Lots struggle with long irons Kev!
@@TheAverageGolfer and only ever hit 3 over 200 yards my driver only gos about 190 on a excellent day
How to these compare the last season's Cleveland Hy-wood or even Cobra's one length hybrid?
The Hywood is 18 degrees so not comparable more in line with the cobra hybrid but personally prefer these
Thank you Andy fot the great review. As a beginner I only have a Mizuno iron set and a Sik putter, no long clubs as of yet. My JPX923 i5 is 22° loft, should I go for G430 h4 or h3 as an additional longer club in the set?
Depends how you hit the 5i? I think the G430 4h is better choice, can always decrease loft if needed
@The Average Golfer I don't hit the 5i well but I'm investing in lessons. What I don't understand is the 5i and 4h both have 22° loft but shouldn't the 4h be the replacement of a 4i (19°)? Sorry for the newbie question.
@Watches Journey it's a common misconception. It's because newer irons have a stronger loft than traditional irons.
Manufacturers take loft off of irons so average golfers can say they hit their 7i longer than they used to but they also know there's a stigma towards higher lofted hybrids so they have weaker lofts on their hybrids. The longer shaft and the difference in style of the hybrid means that they generally fly longer than an equivalent hybrid.
@@robertcourt8593 quite correct. OEM's try to and succeed in misleading most golfers with their marketing. Golfers need to learn that what matters is carry, spin, launch angle, maximum height, descent angle and stopping distance, and good gapping between clubs. The number on the bottom of the club is not important.
With my speed, which is pretty average, I have decided that any iron with a loft of less than 25 degrees is likely to be a waste of time for me, I will not get enough launch. But equally I know that with hybrids a loft of less than 20 degrees is pointless. So my longest iron is a 5i, then a 4h (lofted up to 23 degrees), then a 7w
Based on Andy's dry ball data I prefer the G430 hybrid, much more controllable - but I am biased, I play a G425 hybrid
The longest iron in my bag will be a 5iron this season
For me it's a Stealth 24 degree 6 iron and a SiM2 MAX 5 hybrid.
I am thinking of picking up either the G425 or the G430 4 hybrid. Any thoughts?
425s are great, and significantly cheaper! You probably won’t see any difference in distance either!
Great course
I have a 4 and 5 iron but I don't have the bottle to sell them and get hybrids, as if I was to sell my irons at a later date, 6 to PW are not wanted by buyers. So i stick with the 4 and 5 even if they go similar distance.and 2 of these hybrids will set you back £550
Ouch
Get g410s or g30s I love my 410s and will only swap them out when they're really battered!
Great video. I’m looking at trading my current clubs in for G430 irons but have also been given serious consideration for opting for the 4 and 5 hybrids rather than the equivalent irons as my swing speed is quite slow and i lack distance with the longer irons
I would seriously consider doing what you suggest but obviously if you get custom fit you can find the answers
@@TheAverageGolfer going for a custom fitting this Saturday which will be interesting to see the results.
Incredible review again. One club I will not be trading in though is my stealth 5 hybrid. My fav club in the bag. Very rarely hit a bad shot with it. Ditching my 5 iron for that was the best thing I ever did. You will never guess who got me on to that club 😄
Have you tried the 3 woods in these makes yet?
😂 great club! I am filming 3 wood video with Lewis on Friday, all three Tm models, Titanium, HD and Std
Definitely a no at the start of the video but now at the end it could be a maybe 😅 could you use one and drop the 4&5 iron ????
😂 absolutely, perfect 4 iron replacement
@@TheAverageGolfer Diolch pal
Both serve the purpose very well, for launch, feel and performance it’s just preference I could own either and enjoy them. Except for 1 thing. Ridiculous price. In Canada here the Ping will empty your wallet for $480 and the Callaway $470. That’s a lot for 1 club no matter what each club brings to the table. There are other hybrids equally capable of similar performance that are 2-5 years old, ahd the price doesn’t absorb all the funds we now need to pay for PLAYING the game. If costs keep going up as they have last 2 years, sadly the old myth that golf is a game only for the RICH… will come to pass. And we all work hard to get what we have, just some have it much easier. But nice review. I will be able to one day either of these, once they are about 10 years old and 1/3 the price.
I think new golf clubs may be for the rich but hopefully the game itself remains affordable
Price is ridiculously high on both clubs though.
Yes agreed
I play a 4,5, and 6 hybrid by Mizuno and there really is no comparison to long irons for me. The hybrids are superior in almost every regard with the possible exception of digging a ball out of deep, thick rough. The hybrids provide decent angles, as you have illustrated, but the deScent angles allow for shorter roll-out, shaving strokes.
For me the callaway driver looks stunning compared to the g430 driver and same with the woods but I have to say I prefer the look of the g430 hybrids
I don’t like shinny, shiny goes dull, Matt stays matt
Never met a hybrid that didn't look ugly at setup, and these are ugly too. I'll stick to my 7 and 9 woods.
your sentence seems to have 9000 words, you.never pause.between sentence.
Love my stealth and sim2 hybrids. 👍🏌️
Good choice!