Euron, King of the Apocalypse (Euron Endgame Theory)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @abbyniloingsigh7188
    @abbyniloingsigh7188 Год назад +447

    What the show did with Euron is unforgivable.

    • @moviebad109
      @moviebad109 Год назад +49

      Seriously. Turned him into a frat boy, blowing the potential of an extremely talented actor in the process.

    • @Matatabi6
      @Matatabi6 Год назад +43

      I think you can take out the words “with euron” and that sentence still works

    • @m4eou
      @m4eou Год назад +33

      They turn an apocalyptic manipulative king high on psychodelics and full into human sacrifices and magic into a mix of Ragnar, Jack Sparrow and a D&D ork

    • @rawrbeez6625
      @rawrbeez6625 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@m4eouwhen you put it like that he sounds kinda effin cool…if he had another name.

    • @andrewyakovlev9710
      @andrewyakovlev9710 8 месяцев назад +7

      Finga in da bum?

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x 4 года назад +755

    Euron is like a scarier supernatural Joker
    and the creepiest thing about it is that he isn't a product of society, this is who he actually is.

    • @rycolligan
      @rycolligan 4 года назад +199

      I mean, if ever there was a society toxic enough to create a Euron, it would be the Ironborn. But I get what you mean.

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 4 года назад +45

      @@rycolligan Ugh, "a Euron"...
      *shudders*

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 4 года назад +11

      @@made-line7627 lol "a euron" ...that comment sounds.. weirder(?) in My accent too 😂

    • @fuzzyhair321
      @fuzzyhair321 2 года назад

      Or what he became, somehow though only he became a loose cannon and nobody else in his crew

  • @Dovah21
    @Dovah21 2 года назад +443

    Knowing all this now only makes the TV show hurt even more. To think that Euron Greyjoy could have been one of the most effective and horrifying screen villains ever...

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  2 года назад +97

      He could have been a really amazing character. Pirate Odin on bad acid, as I call him

    • @Dovah21
      @Dovah21 2 года назад +41

      @@DavidLightbringer Or really good acid, depending on your point of view.

    • @Texmechs
      @Texmechs Год назад +21

      The actor really tried. I think if the script hadn't been total shit, he could have pulled it off. I bet dude even thought he could go all out super unhinged and all he got was a finger in the bumb. Kind of like how Hayden Christensen did as well as he could as Anakin. Fucking no one could have pulled off either characters with that horrible script

    • @Karlonstark
      @Karlonstark Год назад +8

      @@Texmechs I don't have anything against the actor and he definitely did his best with what he was given, but I don't think he would have been right for a more book accurate version of Euron.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 Год назад +3

      Yep, Euron was a MENACE

  • @AnthonyJayFoxxx
    @AnthonyJayFoxxx 2 года назад +126

    I like how even the actor who portraid euron on the show said he was dissapointed with the way they made the character and i can see why

    • @Ro-nu7vv
      @Ro-nu7vv Год назад +28

      He was a fan of the book version of Eurion

  • @yensid4294
    @yensid4294 4 года назад +674

    Here's a scary thought--the Dragon that gets bound to Euron is Dany...

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +185

      Ooh hope not!

    • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
      @jonhauge-evaldsson783 4 года назад +39

      Oh, that hurt!

    • @tabulldog2743
      @tabulldog2743 4 года назад +115

      Ugh god that would be hard to read. I do believe that she'd be deeply attracted to him, given her past romantic history. Maybe they'll get married in Winds, and things would go from bad to worse.

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 4 года назад +126

      Dany is still more or less a child, has a weakness for pretty boys, and Euron is known for being good at manipulating people, especially young women (eg Falia Flowers, who is very close to Dany in age, and her fate may reflect Dany’s fate if she allows her teenage girl brain to lead her to trust Euron

    • @jobowisheshewasnomo4171
      @jobowisheshewasnomo4171 2 года назад +56

      christ, and we know the type of guy she goes for...

  • @KonekoKoji
    @KonekoKoji 9 месяцев назад +7

    What really nails it for me is Mel, she sees truthful visions in her flames, but is just terrible at working out what they actually mean. She says, "When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone."
    As you mentioned, the red star has bled, Euron is literally gathered darkness (in all his finery), his armour is described as being like smoke, and he's sailing on literal salt with a horn that binds dragons ... if he doesn't claim one of the three known ones, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he managed to wake one up from some lump of oily black stone (perhaps under the stones of a certain High Tower)

    • @thesen8
      @thesen8 2 месяца назад

      there’s that special book regarding dragons that Tyrion mentions in an early ADWD chapter. the one that’s locked up deep within the citadel. maybe euron will wake a textual “dragon” by opening/reading the book if he gets it? lol

  • @lordzoidberg829
    @lordzoidberg829 4 года назад +96

    If the Great empire of the Dawn was indeed a dragon empire, then it makes sense that they married brother to sister, just as the Valyrians did. This would mean that the amethyst empress and the bloodstone emperor aren't only siblings, they're married. Meaning Nissa Nissa was indeed the wife of Azor Ahai.

  • @johnlowkey359
    @johnlowkey359 4 года назад +140

    I've been reading Lovecraft and this passage slapped me in the face:
    "...[Cthulhu statues] yielded simultaneous pictures of an octopus, a dragon, and a human caricature [...] A pulpy, tentacled head surmounted a grotesque and scaly body with rudimentary wings." Call of Cthulhu.
    I've been aware of Cthulhu for ages from pop culture exposure, but never the descriptive association with dragons. I think Euron's metaphorical (or metatextual goal) is to wake/summon Cthulhu by wedding the Kraken with the Dragon. Not that we are going to see the guy, but I think the plot is GRRM winking at him.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +25

      Oh nice I like that!!! Yes, when the Kraken weds the dragon in an artist’s mind, it looks like Cthulhu haha

    • @cha1184420
      @cha1184420 2 года назад +3

      GRRM wrote some Cthulhu fan-fic a couple of years back. It was a cool little story with Tyrion and Jaime.

  • @kevinmartinez3500
    @kevinmartinez3500 3 года назад +94

    Small Point: Euron wants to marry Dany, who is parallel to the amethyst empress. The amethyst empress was killed by her brother. Valyrians marry brother to sister.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  3 года назад +34

      Yes the parallels line up pretty well. And the conclusion would be that Euron wants Dany to use her for blood magic, a la Nissa Nissa / Amethyst Empress

    • @anastasiab9506
      @anastasiab9506 2 года назад +27

      @@DavidLightbringer and i would LOVE for Dany to pull an uno reverse card and finish Euron off.

  • @jeffgustafson4552
    @jeffgustafson4552 4 года назад +296

    I’ve always liked the Mads Mikelsen Euron fan art.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +48

      There’s actually a ton more of it but I didn’t want to take too much attention away from the topic. That one that I used is too goo though

    • @jeffgustafson4552
      @jeffgustafson4552 4 года назад +12

      @@DavidLightbringer Your work is top notch, thanks LML!

    • @rvg1161
      @rvg1161 4 года назад

      @@jeffgustafson4552 4

    • @h.dwaynearchibald3371
      @h.dwaynearchibald3371 4 года назад +5

      I agree super cool visual...and he would be a terrifying Euron or a compelling Rodrik the Reader

    • @helenrose5383
      @helenrose5383 3 года назад +1

      @@isaacmartinez7557 🤣🤣

  • @robwood1987
    @robwood1987 4 года назад +80

    The breakdown of how Euron could be Urrathon Night Walker because of how he compares to Urrathon GoodBrother is exactly the sort of thing I come to this channel for. Great work as always LML.

  • @Henbot
    @Henbot 4 года назад +183

    The Deck of Silence is so apocalyptic in imagery tbh especially if you have seen the silence as the silence of wiping out people and ending the world

    • @AverageAwesomeDude
      @AverageAwesomeDude 3 года назад +19

      Agreed I always thought it one of the creepiest things in asoiaf, more so cause I can imagine someone in history doing something like this. Like sure euron is terrifying and kinda full of magic but the Silence creeped me out cause it was the most non magical part about him. Just a boat that is horrifying just by reputation which it lives up to. It’s literally a ship sailed by eurons little cruelties (little in comparison), he cut their tongues because the noise irritated him, it’s painted red not to have to wash the bloodshed. By itself the ship is nightmare fuel but it’s one of the smallest aspects of Euron which given the rest of him just raises his entire character to new levels of terrifying

    • @brandonkelly7347
      @brandonkelly7347 Год назад +3

      Silence of God..perhaps? “I killed one brother and pissed in the ocean waiting to be struck down”

    • @genericyoutubechannel6180
      @genericyoutubechannel6180 Год назад +2

      Yes the series is literally called a *SONG*of Ice and he is the silence. The one to bring an end to all songs.😊

  • @scottcameron174
    @scottcameron174 2 года назад +63

    I felt that the show runners decided to forego the Greyjoy storyline early in the series and when faced with it playing a major role in the outcome of the finale (similar to how they ignored Dorne for the shows entirety and then attempted to shoehorn it in, in a way that made no sense) they decided to make the Night King take the role of what Euron would become in the books, as you mention. Early Euron I feel was truly a weird hybrid of Victarion himself and then in the last seasons became just a weird sad Victarion.

  • @AltSchwiftSiberia
    @AltSchwiftSiberia 4 года назад +192

    Euron is my most anticipated plotline. I blame humanity's natural morbid curiosity, but I'm also intensely intrigued by the history and magic (leading to potential godhood) that Euron is wrapped up in. He is worldbuilding, in a sense. I think he'll show the limits of magic and power in ASOIAF.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +47

      I think GRRM is going to absolutely go to town with his version of Lovecraftian nightmare when Euron does whatever he's going to do at Oldtown. I'm *really* looking forward to it, but in a "look at a car crash" way, sorta. It's gonna be fucked up

    • @graphthis2249
      @graphthis2249 Год назад +1

      I think Bran needs a proper warrior sorcerer to be his foil and I think Euron is exactly that.
      I anxiously wait for winds to someday finish.

    • @lisagaughan7154
      @lisagaughan7154 Год назад +3

      I hope he ends up as the overall main villain, if not him, it'll probably be the Great Other which I believe is going to be the book version of the Night King.

  • @duderizagamingstudios3723
    @duderizagamingstudios3723 4 года назад +101

    The part about the bloodstone emperor being azor ahai and the amethyst empress being nissa nissa. Made me think the tradition of valerians wedding there siblings comes from the bloodstone emperor and amethyst empress possibly being married, the way the legend say azor ahai was married to nissa nissa.

  • @lucascantzler4357
    @lucascantzler4357 3 года назад +112

    To the idea that Azor Ahai is villain, i would suggest that he was a person who did horrible stuff, because he believed it will save the world from a prophesized Apocolypse, but eventually caused it through his actions.
    Because in the Story the Azor Ahai Prophecy is linked with Melisandre influence over Stannis and his people and how her prophecy Brings his cause on dark path

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  3 года назад +21

      this seems very possible, absolutely . It's one of the main questions I have about AA, wheher he thought he was doing good or not

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je 2 года назад

      Another example of Marwyn saying that "prophecy will bite your prick off every time"!

  • @jaysheth1541
    @jaysheth1541 4 года назад +109

    Bran will be Euron's foil. Extraordinary Evil in the end gets defeated by an Innocent God-Child Bran... The Winged Wolf.
    Bran will warg the mute Crewmen of Euron's Ship - Silence and will turn on him for Vengeance. Euron will meet death at the hands of those whom he used to gain Power.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +37

      That’s a cool idea!! I like it

    • @pipitameruje
      @pipitameruje 4 года назад +11

      Wow! I love this! That's one heck of a theory, and one I can actually see happening and enjoy.

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 4 года назад +1

      I like this..what a great idea!

    • @reignorshine.
      @reignorshine. 4 года назад +7

      I like it ! Jon ,Bran an Dany join forces vs Euron and the whites during the long night .Arya and the hound go after Cersie. On some ninja shit .all in darkness covered ashes .

    • @7PtsSlime
      @7PtsSlime 4 года назад

      Wrong

  • @coreyrobinette5030
    @coreyrobinette5030 3 года назад +14

    I’ve been searching desperately for a channel that makes in depth videos about the actual novels and character breakdowns and I’m glad to say I’ve finally found it. Finding this channel made me get more excited than a kid on Christmas morning.

  • @jerrysstories711
    @jerrysstories711 4 года назад +93

    Dude, Euron is at this point the most fascinating character in ASOIF, and you do the BEST deep analysis of the symbolism, foreshadowing, and significant motifs in the series. I'm so looking forward to your Part 2 now. I just finished watching this video, but if you don't mind, I'm just going to watch it again now...

  • @Peanutjoepap24
    @Peanutjoepap24 4 года назад +83

    My personal pet theory is that Theon and Euron’s arcs are parallel. Both defy the intentions of the Ironborn, invade sacred ground shall we say, play with forces much greater than they can control with far too high ambitions. Hopefully that means Euron will become the Others’ “Reek” in the end.

    • @carlogiurizzato2441
      @carlogiurizzato2441 3 года назад +1

      euron IS the ironborn WAY he sail and killed raped all over the world did you read a feast for crows=?????

    • @LilBrownieD
      @LilBrownieD 3 года назад +5

      I like this!

  • @tool9386
    @tool9386 4 года назад +70

    I would love to see a craft brewery make a Shade of the Evening inspired beverage.

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 4 года назад +8

      I'd be up for that!! A maryjane infused brandy tincture may be a nice starting point ;)

    • @andrzejkopalnia
      @andrzejkopalnia 4 года назад +5

      @@TheOnlyElle. throw in some Absinth and I'm sold

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 4 года назад +1

      @@andrzejkopalnia ooh, I forgot about the old "Green Fairy"! I haven't drank Absinthe in a Long time, but I could be persuaded to partake in that party ;) Absinthe was banned in My country until (about) 20 years ago..even now theres a '2 shot limit" in bars that do sell it..crazy laws for a bonkers drink lol

    • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
      @jonhauge-evaldsson783 4 года назад +2

      LSD and Mushrooms!

    • @manofhealing
      @manofhealing 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/8bE7T_6W_vc/видео.html Here you go, not a brewery but I mean, after so many years of making drinks for a living, he probably knows what he's doing

  • @apacalypsagon3758
    @apacalypsagon3758 4 года назад +36

    Man this is just as cool as reading a book. Its really fun to speculate on this level.

  • @santiagoelguero8458
    @santiagoelguero8458 4 года назад +99

    noob: Watches GOT tv show
    grasshopper: Reads the books
    Standard mode: some youtube reviews / theories
    Hard mode: alt shift x and some higher order theories
    NIGHTMARE MODE: TRY 30+ 40 MINUTE VIDEOS AT LML

    • @costrodrock
      @costrodrock 3 года назад +1

      Omg, so this is like a thing? Here I was thinkign I was special...

    • @LilBrownieD
      @LilBrownieD 3 года назад +6

      Yeah RUclips didn't suggest this channel until I must've been ready, lol

    • @coolichka42
      @coolichka42 3 года назад +2

      @@LilBrownieD dude same LOL

    • @calebreynolds9183
      @calebreynolds9183 3 года назад +6

      Like a true doom eternal player, I jumped in at nightmare mode.
      Book? Can’t read
      Show? Don’t have an HBO. Well I did, but it was for Godzilla vs Kong.
      Deep lore of something well written being broken down by a literary analyst?
      Real shit.

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 3 года назад +1

      @@calebreynolds9183 Audiobooks?

  • @andrzejkopalnia
    @andrzejkopalnia 4 года назад +62

    I will forever stand by my point that, because of this, George stopped reading into fan theories. Also: More of the pirate voice!

    • @heavysaber9431
      @heavysaber9431 4 года назад +2

      Yeah I mean he literally said that in an Interview

  • @isabellamego5321
    @isabellamego5321 4 года назад +62

    Perfect, now my breakfast is complete with entertainment

    • @forcelightningcable9639
      @forcelightningcable9639 4 года назад +1

      Isabel Lamego took the words right out of my mouth

    • @jeffgustafson4552
      @jeffgustafson4552 4 года назад +2

      HaHa with the Horrors that are Euron 🤣

    • @pdderek
      @pdderek 4 года назад +2

      God forbid you can't stare at a phone whilst eating

  • @darkhobo
    @darkhobo 3 года назад +38

    I figure the Valyrians (and the various other dragonlord descendants) were descendants of the Amethyst empress. Before the bloodstone emperor usurped the throne and brought in the long night.
    So the parallel will be Danyerys conquers Westeros, Euron usurps her, long night starts again, Jon takes it back from Euron.
    Oh also Pirates are fine parallels to Kings. Each captain is King on their ship. So its not as much a stretch as you make it seem.

  • @adamlewis9597
    @adamlewis9597 4 года назад +13

    Been waiting ages for this one. Thought it was never coming!!!! Great work once again lml....

  • @tracymetherell8744
    @tracymetherell8744 4 года назад +12

    I for one LOVE the symbolism! And in this case it is so powerful and clear that anyone who thinks GRRM doesn’t do this intentionally is just not paying attention. Symbolism is what makes your podcasts so fascinating. Don’t be shy about your Mythical Astronomy powers because they set you apart!

  • @JohnJones-md9gj
    @JohnJones-md9gj 4 года назад +84

    you are VERY good at this. every video you make seems to be better than the last!

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 4 года назад

      Agreed :) 👏🏼👏🏼

    • @balerionthecat5076
      @balerionthecat5076 4 года назад

      I was just going to say the same thing - you've gotten really good! (& of course the content is brilliant 😃)

  • @mescaleeeeeto
    @mescaleeeeeto 2 года назад +15

    Something you said in another video relating to Euron, that he found a suit of valyrian steel plate that fit him perfectly during his travels, made me think about the one ring that seems capable of changing its size based on the wearer

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 5 месяцев назад +2

      Or more puerile, the DnD feature of some enchanted armor to refit itself within a size class.
      The man is wearing RPG gear in a Low Fantasy Medieval setting.

  • @DanKeshet
    @DanKeshet 4 года назад +43

    "Actually grew to over an hour in length" This is a reformed Lucifer Means Lightbringer! I remember the days of split-up scripts still being three hours in length!

  • @celly8713
    @celly8713 4 года назад +60

    I can’t think about Euron and not think about Saagael, the lord of darkness who was summoned by an accidental blood sacrifice in one of George’s oldest stories. There’s even a religion that worships Saagael mentioned in awoiaf. There’s GOTTA be something there

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +12

      ooh, that sounds very Lovecraft, and very like my idea that maybe Euron will channel the spirit of dead AA or NK and that it will take him over. What happens with Saagael in this other story now?

    • @celly8713
      @celly8713 4 года назад +10

      Lucifer means Lightbringer so he gets summoned through a bloody altar and is confronted by the hero, Dr Weird, who is this GREEN AND GOLD wraith spirit and he gets sent back through the altar he was born from. There’s this light and dark theme going on through that story in which Dr weird, the wraith, is on the side of light and Saagael, the demon prince, is on the side of darkness.

    • @celly8713
      @celly8713 4 года назад +6

      Lucifer means Lightbringer it’s called “Only Kids Are Afraid of The Dark” and it’s like 14 pages so I definitely recommend picking it up Because there are too many connections

    • @AverageAwesomeDude
      @AverageAwesomeDude 3 года назад +6

      Usually I’d jump right into that theory, but I really think that’s just how George writes, he likes to put little meaningless (so far) references to his other works. I haven’t read the story you mention but I know that there’s a reference to Baccalon The Pale Child in The Forsaken chapter, the pale child is the deity of this religious order of warmongering space faring humans called The Steel Angels from the story “And 7 times never kill man” it’s a really interesting story but I don’t think it will mean anything to ASOIF which I think is probably also the case with your reference

  • @salpimienta2961
    @salpimienta2961 4 года назад +4

    Great stuff, thanks. I love riding the pause button to take note of the artwork and artists; you do have a knack for finding the coolest work out there. I also appreciate the fact that you occasionally make me spit coffee through my nose.

  • @andreasilk8201
    @andreasilk8201 4 года назад +10

    I hope one day you are recognized as one of the most in depth and influential asoiaf scholars of our time!

  • @MissDanaSophia
    @MissDanaSophia 4 года назад +76

    Euron is basically Bob from Twin Peaks, and I'm so here for it. I love characters that are just the embodiment of "burn the world" but REALLY despise them in real life. Can we just keep those kinds of people in fiction, please?

    • @soheiladam7510
      @soheiladam7510 2 года назад +3

      No one is as scary as Bob.

    • @AYVYN
      @AYVYN 2 года назад

      Begging is unbecoming

    • @tomjones6347
      @tomjones6347 Год назад

      ​@@soheiladam7510bob is at the bottom of your bed whilst you sleep

    • @soheiladam7510
      @soheiladam7510 Год назад

      @@tomjones6347 you mean at the bottom of your bed.

  • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
    @jonhauge-evaldsson783 4 года назад +13

    Mindbuggering stuff! Euron is as dark as they come. And he has some hard competition in these books.

  • @ieatzebraarah
    @ieatzebraarah 4 года назад +38

    This is perfect timing I just finished Victarion’s first chapter in AFFC

  • @amynurss1375
    @amynurss1375 4 года назад +17

    Ah, my morning coffee is complete!
    The Joker of the seven kingdoms.

    • @uruk-
      @uruk- 3 года назад +3

      I see lots of people comparing Euron to the Joker, I'm not a Joker expert but they really seem different, the Joker seem like a radical nihilist, totaly enjoying chaos and destruction. Whilst Euron isn't a nihilist, he is very egotistical, he wants power, and the chaos he causes seems to be collateral.
      But I might be wrong x)

  • @SUPERHONEYBUNNY
    @SUPERHONEYBUNNY 4 года назад +9

    Also Valyrians loved their brother and sister matches. So Azor Ahai and Nissa Nissa were probably related. And since I also believe that Ths Bloodstone Emperor was Azor Ahai he must have been in a marriage (albeit an unhappy one, like Aerys and Rhaella) with his sister, The Amethyst Empress. I think they also parallel Rhaenyra and her brother Aegon. They were not a couple but like the Amethyst Empress, Rhaenyra was chosen as her father's heir and her brother Aegon killed her to get the throne.
    And it ushered the end of dragons.

  • @joejejeo
    @joejejeo 4 года назад +42

    My boi Vic won't be able to handle the temptation of blowing Eurons horn, something will go awry for those 3 bastards and Vic will go in for the blow to make dragons come.

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 4 года назад +3

      My word! The jokes are coming thick and hard..

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 4 года назад

      @MegaJdizzle27 reference? Lol :)

  • @Mmu12059
    @Mmu12059 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'd never considered Euron larping as a Valyrian enough to make him fit the role of a dragonlord in the vein of Azor Ahai, but if the theories in your latest series hold, almost all Ironborn noble houses have distant Great Empire ancestry. Even if the Greyjoys don't have direct dragonlord ancestry per se, Euron then at least has a somewhat legitimate claim to the cultural mantle he's draped himself in. This on top of the fact that he's a skinchanger also makes him a perfect dark parallel to Jon. His role in the wider story then makes a whole lot more sense, but this also means that the Ironborn in general are fulfilling a poetically symmetrical role in it as well, instead of just being cool window dressing, which is what they ended up being in the show.

  • @dirtygiraffe
    @dirtygiraffe 4 года назад +6

    Oh man, I've been waiting for this, I'm so exited!

  • @tanksmoonchild
    @tanksmoonchild 4 года назад +17

    Oooooh. Snap. Not one minute in and I lost my mind. Euron is going to be the next knights king. It makes some much sense I could have come up with it.... But I didn't!
    Awesome.
    And now to watch the rest.

  • @andrewbohrer4092
    @andrewbohrer4092 4 года назад +7

    He or Quinn should have it where they read the books on RUclips. I love the way they put a chill an add emotion to whatever they read

  • @jmace2424
    @jmace2424 3 года назад +27

    I’m so glad George isn’t going to have Euron suddenly become Captain Meme like on the show.

  • @MagnaMater2
    @MagnaMater2 4 года назад +18

    Yes! I love that! O.O
    Ever since his appearance at the Kingsmoot, it was clear: if these books see a God-King rise, it would be Euron.
    And if the other figures are just a frame the show-end suddenly makes sense: The Braavosi will not suffer God-Kings making rules: They could send out Arya, and if she killed him she could claim the Silence as her reward, to have the world's best ship to go exploring the unexplored.

  • @brandonlambert9768
    @brandonlambert9768 4 года назад +7

    I've been looking forward to this since you announced it.

  • @nononono3421
    @nononono3421 3 года назад +15

    It's a trope that calls for GRRM to crush.
    I think he'll get a nuke to the face and burn in his fancy armor.
    He’s a fish who wants to be part of a world he once glimpsed when he bit a bait not intended for him and was thrown back into the sea.
    He’s going to jump out of the waters, right into a frying pan.
    -Team Victarion

  • @kccody7278
    @kccody7278 4 года назад +3

    You're the only asoiaf content creator that is putting out quality material on a regular basis. Loving it braj!

  • @GPBA89
    @GPBA89 2 года назад +3

    "You've seen a ship with black sails that is crewed by the damned and captained by a man so evil that Hell itself spat him back out."

  • @ffejpsycho
    @ffejpsycho 4 года назад +8

    Though, always a good thing to remember is...
    ...Prophecy is like a half-trained mule, even appearing it might be useful.
    However, the moment it attains your trust, you're kicked in the head.

  • @bobbehwitchie
    @bobbehwitchie 4 года назад +5

    I just turned on RUclips to look for something to listen to on my walk to work. Super hyped now!

  • @theniceguyification
    @theniceguyification 4 года назад +3

    fu**in eh bud, this video is a banger! just about lost my shit when you said we're going full mythicial astronomy pack another glass of nightshade. 7/7, I've been waiting for this one

  • @brandonlambert9768
    @brandonlambert9768 4 года назад +57

    I really hope he doesn't kill Dany or corrupt her but it seems like a real possibility.

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je 2 года назад +4

      Euron is the betrayal for love while Jon Snow (possibly) will be the one to light a Fire for love!

    • @dustingaethje1332
      @dustingaethje1332 Год назад +1

      ​@@PedroLucas-mg5jeThat makes no sense because Euron doesn't love anyone. It's betrayal FOR love, you have to love to betray for love

  • @tinahs8269
    @tinahs8269 2 года назад +3

    As a medical professional..I have a special appreciation of your mention of "all the eye stabbings" and "moon face"(an indicator of thyroid disease)

  • @wserthmar8908
    @wserthmar8908 2 года назад +7

    The antichrist symbolism is so deep in asoiaf and could be found in Dany, Jon (your Bloodstone theory) and especially in Euron. You’ve done the best work uncovering all the hidden meanings, such a thoughtful analysis! Thank you

  • @aryanak1234
    @aryanak1234 2 года назад +4

    I’m so glad I found this channel. So much interesting content that has entertained me and changed the way I view characters like Jon and Dany. 7 blessings David

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x 4 года назад +22

    I miss quinn's old style of videos where it was highly edited and scripted and atmospheric, your videos are like the twin to that style which I love.

    • @GabimaruSano
      @GabimaruSano 4 года назад +10

      Back in the “Ideas of Ice and Fire” days👌🏾

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +6

      I really learned a TON from working with him on the Winds of Winter predictions series. He helped me up my game a ton.
      Quinn still does edited videos! He’s working on a monster Lovecraft / Cthulhu one right now. We’ve both been doing a lot of live-streams lately in part because it allows us to put out more videos, and everybody wants entertainment right now, and plus we have the time to do it because Covid.

    • @satrmleo
      @satrmleo 4 года назад +1

      I agree. I love Quinn's older videos for the voice and inflections. He had the ability to bring the ethereal quality of fantasy to an auditory form. His Dune series is alright and the video of the Shrike from Hyperion Cantos is exemplary.

  • @Aezeus
    @Aezeus 4 года назад +116

    This is by far one of my most anticipated plot line for Winds, no idea what to expect, maybe I will after this video hahaha Love your shit L

    • @TheOnlyElle.
      @TheOnlyElle. 4 года назад +2

      4.20..too late for Me, Im at 17.26 already and won't be home for another hour :/ but by the time I get home it'll be 4.20 & 4.30, 40, 50, 55 somewhere :)...dont judge Me, it's been a hell of a day..lol a Euronic (?) day !!!

    • @EnglishTheif
      @EnglishTheif 4 года назад

      Me too

  • @ferniek5000
    @ferniek5000 4 года назад +5

    Today's Intro is like smooth midnight radio on a long drive. Keep on rockin LML.

  • @arcadedomination8006
    @arcadedomination8006 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm reminded of another commenter suggesting that Dragonbinder might bind Dany (instead of an actual dragon). Which feels like a perfect setup for Euron "wedding the dragon" and completing Dany's themes with both slavery and weddings/husbands.

  • @briceslorene8760
    @briceslorene8760 4 года назад +4

    Thank you so much for another in-depth video I’m gonna sit back while at work not on phones smoke up and listen to your excellent theories keep them coming I need something to do and get paid for it

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +1

      yeah this one you got get in the mood for man, it's Euron

  • @Varatil
    @Varatil Год назад +2

    11:12 "He sure is trying to dress up like a Valyrian"
    I feel like "the folly of pretenders" is Author's Exhibit A for the core theme of "Facing Winter [challenges, fear of death] means growing up [forsaking comforting lies/childish stories]." The prologue ends with Royce honoring himself as a man (of TNW), not a child, by standing against winter. The story then starts with Bran going to witness the execution of the deserter, who failed to be a man (of TNW) and ran from his true duty, pretending he could escape death. Bran had to see that he was wrong, specifically to prepare him for the end of childhood/winter.
    All these pale pretenders, attempting to escape the inevitability of death: Euron, and the pale "Undying" Warlocks he got his blue tint from. "Aegon," who's likewise *dyed* blue and ought to have died, but came back from across the water with suspiciously miraculous timing. WW magic of both the White Walker and Weirwoodnet variety are literally Childrens' attempts to avoid death, cursing them to eternal undeath.

  • @bobafettywap4728
    @bobafettywap4728 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hey man, REALLY love these theory vids! Especially when pertaining to Euron or the other more "Esoteric" ideas but i gotta know, what is that/those eerie tracks that play whenever youre reading from dreams or Eurons Quotes? I believe the first starts around 2:40.

  • @aweeks062
    @aweeks062 4 года назад +16

    Hey David! I am worried about you two with the fires up in that area, are you guys good so far? Stay safe! I have been waiting for this video and what a way to start my day! Thanks Boo!

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +9

      Yes we aren’t breathing too much smoke, and we have to wear masks anyway when do go out, which isn’t often. We’re okay! Thanks for thinking of us :)

    • @jeffgustafson4552
      @jeffgustafson4552 4 года назад +1

      Lucifer means Lightbringer you won’t have to worry about the Others.

    • @aweeks062
      @aweeks062 4 года назад +1

      @@DavidLightbringer Of course! I live in Phx and we have had some pretty gnarly skies from the Cali fires. I can only imagine the apocalyptic feeling over there lol. Glad you guys are doing ok.

  • @guilhermesantos8728
    @guilhermesantos8728 3 года назад +22

    Like this guy said, there are similarities between Euron and Aurion heading to places of knowledge/power to carve out their empires. But what if it doesn't stop there?
    A lot of people talk about what Euron's next move is going to be. Yet no one considers if he will be alive to do anything after this. What if Euron dies when he commits his mass sacrifice and blows his Dragonbinder, in an attempt at attaining godhood that completely backfires, like Aurion's attempt to become emperor of the remnants of Valyria?
    I also find it funny that if the theory that Rhoynar magic had a hand in causing the Doom of Valyria has a chance to be the real explanation, then Euron's use of magic that could spell the doom via the Wall coming down would be a historical repetition of the past.

  • @brianlowe904
    @brianlowe904 4 года назад +11

    I think one of my favorite aspects of Martins writing is his use of myths and archetypes to expand on his story and themes.
    Like how the azor ahai myth can be interpreted in many ways and not to jump the gun I think this is personified in the many different people that fit that archetype.
    On one hand you have the “last hero” side of the myth, the heroic visage of a man wielding a flaming sword to save the world from the night that never ends.
    While on the other hand you have the evil nights king incarnation of the character who lml has pointed out(possibly) needlessly killed his wife for the sake of power, making someone else pay the price for magic when it was his price to play.
    Euron is most clearly this latter version of the myth and maybe an unpopular opinion but I think stannis will lean towards this side if he does indeed sacrifice his daughter.
    On the heroic side you have jon and dany that are the incarnation of the last hero expression of the archetype. I don’t think that need much explanation.
    Watching all of lml stuff I’m almost convinced that there is no one azor ahai but many expressions of the same idea and the prophecy fitting so many people is perhaps the point

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +3

      for sure... and the more I think about Euron as a third head of the dragon and the incarnation of AA that most closely matches the original villain character... it just fits

    • @brianlowe904
      @brianlowe904 4 года назад +3

      Lucifer means Lightbringer I also believe this ties into the idea that dany won’t god mad. I think it would go against the general lesson that the azor ahai myth is going for, that sacrifice is required but it should be the person who is making the choice that should sacrifice.
      So it wouldn’t make sense that dany would start burning total innocence.
      I think more line would be dany making a needed sacrifice that history wouldn’t like too kindly on and its Jon who take that fall because he believes in dany’s vision.
      Assuming the show had any truth in what happened.
      I mean at that point Jon would be an undead possibly frozen ice and fire zombie while dany would be the breaker of chains freer of slaves.

  • @JamesBond-os9kr
    @JamesBond-os9kr 11 месяцев назад +2

    Just started the video, but it's already amazing.

  • @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
    @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 4 года назад +2

    Reactions to the notification about this video
    0. Oh LOVELY LML has a new video!
    1. Can't wait lemme just get my coffee
    2. Wait this is a video about Euron, do I have emotional strength for that right now?
    3. *waits for 11 hrs until bedtime* oh well I haven't had nightmares in like a fortnight, bring it on Euron

  • @mzmendy
    @mzmendy 3 года назад +27

    At this point in life, I just want GRRM to finish Euron's chapters. He has the potential to be more terrifying than any literary character I've ever read. The intelligent, psychotic ones are always the best. And GRRM is creepy enough to birth the equivalent of Freddy Kreuger in Westeros, but better.

  • @ryanelliott71698
    @ryanelliott71698 4 года назад +22

    I don’t see Cersei surviving to ADOS. Out of the main human villains we got, Cersei is pretty weak. In AFFC I was bashing my head against a wall on nearly every single chapter by how stupid she is. She doesn’t really offer anything of value to Euron. Even he has to see which way the political winds are blowing.

    • @jonhauge-evaldsson783
      @jonhauge-evaldsson783 4 года назад +3

      She will come back to power in King's Landing I think. Even more paranoid and ruthless than before. An alliance with Euron would be in both there interest.

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 4 года назад +2

      I think once Cersei’s last kid dies she’s gonna go full burn-the-world mode, and if she can manage to get herself in a gif enough position of power and then lets herself go full psycho she’d be pretty scary from a insane, unpredictable person with nothing to lose sorta standpoint

  • @AverageAwesomeDude
    @AverageAwesomeDude 3 года назад +17

    I think this fits really well, and just the fact that he has blue lips could also be a hint, as people’s lips also become blue when freezing to death
    I also really like your nissa nissa, destroyed moon and long night connections, and it kind of would make sense that a celestial object exploding near orbit might fill the atmosphere with enough debris to black out the sky, kind of like a nuclear winter

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  3 года назад +4

      Right, especially when you observe the way that Martin takes basic natural phenomenon and uses it to create magic, such as with obsidian, or the Doom being a magical volcano that leaves a magical fallout zone unlike a natural volcano. So yeah, impact winter from moon meteors as a basic mechanism, but magic meteors and magic moons and all ice demons.

  • @iamsecond411
    @iamsecond411 3 года назад +14

    Do you think it’s possible that the people of Ashai taught the Valyrians the art of dragon riding so they could be ready for the next long night? Why would they have just gone over and taught random people the art of controlling and riding dragons? Maybe they were trying to ensure that what happened to them would be prevented or stopped before it got too bad?

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  3 года назад +11

      Well my answer for that is basically the Great Empire of the Dawn: Dragonlords of Ancient Asshai video. I think the Valyrian ancestors were actually descendants or even refugees from Asshai, essentially.

  • @blackeyedlily
    @blackeyedlily 4 года назад +2

    This was fantastic! You really have been creating some great stuff lately. I look forward to part two.

  • @ferniek5000
    @ferniek5000 4 года назад +6

    In the midst of reading "The 3 Body Problem." a really interesting sci-fi book. It goes along way toward explaining the "moon meteors" and irregular seasons of Westeros. I think George borrowed the idea from that book.

  • @inelouw
    @inelouw 2 года назад +15

    I also find it fascinating how the entire Azor Ahai myth seems to be surrounded by infertility. All the women associated with Azor Ahai figures have problems bearing children. Dalla of the wildlings, Selyse Baratheon, Elia Martell, and of course Dany herself. The only exception to that is the Night's Queen, if your theory is correct. Euron sacrificing his pregnant salt-wife kind of reinforces that Azor Ahai and fertility are not a good match...

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  2 года назад +8

      He’s a character who is trading his children or ability to have them for magic power essentially. It’s a big theme of the sorcery in the story, how it consumes you and exacts a cost

    • @inelouw
      @inelouw 2 года назад +2

      @@DavidLightbringer Destroying the children will destroy the world, in other words. 😆

  • @brandonlambert9768
    @brandonlambert9768 3 года назад +2

    These videos really are some of your best work along with the Jon and Dany videos.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  3 года назад +2

      aww thanks Brandon, that means a lot. I put a LOT of work into the Euron videos, i really did

  • @long_claw
    @long_claw 4 года назад +2

    The BEST thing to wake up to on a Friday morning. Can't wait to give this an in depth watch.

  • @fenyx6573
    @fenyx6573 4 года назад +2

    Dude, this is what I needed today. Thank you.

  • @oscargustaverejlander.
    @oscargustaverejlander. 4 года назад +1

    Looking forward to part two. I haven't found better videos on Euron than what you and Quinn produce! I find Euron to be the most interesting character in terms of how he is going to influence the story, and your take gets me so excited for Winds!! I have just finished reading the series for the second time, and your channel is tempting me to get stuck right back in from the start haha.

  • @santsi7306
    @santsi7306 2 года назад +4

    The more Elden Ring lore I see unfold, the more I'm convinced we could piece together ice and fire's story with elden ring lore. It's just a shot in the dark. Something to think on.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  2 года назад +2

      Oh I’ve been thinking on it. Someone is sent me their old gaming system so I can play it (I have a Mac, it’s a no go on Mac)

    • @santsi7306
      @santsi7306 2 года назад +1

      @@DavidLightbringer I hope you get to!

  • @brandonlambert9768
    @brandonlambert9768 3 года назад +2

    Rewatching this masterpiece for the millionth time while patiently awaiting LML's next video.

  • @williamblake3965
    @williamblake3965 Год назад +1

    he is one of the reasons I am waiting 4ever the 6th book although irritated. I am both scared and thrilled to see his plans unfold but I must wait. The TV show made him a bummer character.

  • @marceljones538
    @marceljones538 Год назад +2

    "From Ib to Assahi. When men see my sails, they pray."
    The Crow's Eye

  • @brandonlambert9768
    @brandonlambert9768 3 года назад +5

    If George doesn't finish the series, LML and Quinn should finish it. LML and Quinn have already plotted out each character's TWOW arc and predicted how TWOW will end and how the story will conclude in ADOS. LML's theories are canon, in my opinion.

    • @allydr90
      @allydr90 2 года назад

      They are canon in my heart.

  • @K8theKind
    @K8theKind 4 года назад +1

    Bloody spectacular video. Absolutely love this, showing everyone I’ve ever met in my entire life!!

  • @brandonlambert9768
    @brandonlambert9768 4 года назад +6

    What a great way to start the day.

  • @papagator7471
    @papagator7471 8 месяцев назад +2

    Euron in the Books : An Ominous Demon encased inside the Human Body
    Euron in the Show : FINGA IN DA BUM

  • @princeprocrastinate6485
    @princeprocrastinate6485 4 года назад +2

    19:23 LML that was an excellent accent you put on there, I'm impressed. You genuinely were a Westerosi pirate for a minute.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +2

      well I have the gravel if not the accent subtleties, thanks marijuana

    • @princeprocrastinate6485
      @princeprocrastinate6485 4 года назад

      @@DavidLightbringer I'm British & it sounded incredibly convincing from an American, bravo. Haha yeah the weed would help with immersing yourself into the role.

  • @jsizemore1449
    @jsizemore1449 4 года назад +5

    Random thought will Euron have a quick relationship with Cersi like im the show (kinda) but after she flee s Kings Landing from Young Griff to the Westerlands and temper his blade in a lion like a certain Azor guy before his Nissa Nissa shows up

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +4

      Think that’s possible, yeah, some sort of Euron Cersei alliance. Depends on how things with Dany shake out

  • @mauralee9987
    @mauralee9987 4 года назад +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed this!!!! Thank you LML!

    • @mauralee9987
      @mauralee9987 4 года назад

      I am now watching some of your older videos like the Sacred Order of the Green Zombies! I am curious about Coldhands and his story arc in the last two books! LML, do you think that we will see Uncle Benjen again? I hope so, would like to know where he has been all this time and if he has any more info re the Others that he could share with all of us!!! I also would like to know what Howland Reed could share, besides the Tower of Joy info on Jon’s heritage!!!

  • @zosiab1742
    @zosiab1742 4 года назад +1

    holy shit, you've really upped your production values, very cool!

  • @isabellamego5321
    @isabellamego5321 4 года назад +5

    Your voice acting only gets better!

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 4 года назад +6

    It’s a minute in & the memes have me rolling. This is gonna be a fun ride.

  • @lilwater7358
    @lilwater7358 4 месяца назад +2

    Fun fact: Aemond has a blue crystal eye in the show and he tries to take the throne from his sibling.

    • @lilwater7358
      @lilwater7358 4 месяца назад

      You... You said it in the video didnt you? :3 fail

  • @stonedancer9150
    @stonedancer9150 4 года назад +1

    Glad to see more classic Myth Head analysis at the end

  • @thupple
    @thupple 4 года назад +1

    So gooood! Oh, the art! I am agog, especially that serpentguy piece, which is terrifying. I love seeing the symbolism come to life with all these amazing visuals. Kudos to the artists, and to LmL for compiling them into this gorgeous tale of Woe.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  4 года назад +1

      Yes! It was such a treat to work with all the Great Euron art! Something about the guy seems to inspire people...

    • @thupple
      @thupple 4 года назад

      ​@@DavidLightbringer Horror is such a visual art, even if the visual is only in your imagination, and even if (sometimes especially if) the horrible thing is invisible. Like this painting, I can hardly look at it, yet I can't look away. It haunts my dreams...

  • @varanasiwalks1451
    @varanasiwalks1451 3 года назад +3

    "[euron's] face a mass of writhing tentacles"
    spray for mind flayers, dude

  • @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
    @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 4 года назад

    I really love your channel! I can name like five channels that focus on the books and not all of them produce their own detailed theories with actual evidence that makes sense and not too many logical fallacies
    But the iron maiden insert at the end is cherry on top

  • @dirtygiraffe
    @dirtygiraffe 4 года назад +2

    Haha, cartoon Euron just looks so chill when he rides that dragon, I love it!