I purchased one last season. It's takes several attempts to get proficient at using the Saldder. I found that very thin trees need to be avoided. I love that its just 2 lbs.
The man himself!! First off, thanks for bringing something to this industry that is truly innovative, the hunting industry is full of copied ideas and such. Ive never saw something like this made before. Secondly, you make it wayyyyyy to easy looking to climb! I do appreciate your youtube channel and the detailed instructions. Keep it up!
I just bought one, I have tried it twice. Having trouble getting my foot in the top 3 loops also. I am 76 so that may have something to do with that, but I am going to keep trying.
Some things seem better in theory than actual practice. I feel like this is one of those things. I don't want to sound like I'm hating on it, because it is a neat idea. It just seems like it's more of a hassle to manage than it's worth. If I had it (knowing myself), regardless of how careful I was packing it up to take into the woods... I'd spend 15 minutes just untangling it before I was even ready to climb. Then I'd be so mad and frustrated that I'd throw it back in my pack and just hunt from the ground 🤣 Good video and review as always, btw!
Yeah I think that with real practice you can get good at anything, just like using a stand or a stick setup. I do however think that a normal stand and 3-4 stick setup is going to be more versatile than this.
Just got mine and I had a problem getting my foot in the rungs. I quickly realized this is the opposite of sticks in the sense that with the sladder i noticed climbing on the downside of the lean was much freaking easier... Like always I love your videos always bangers!!!
One of the first one to get one when he first made them. I finally got around to modifying it so i dont have to worry about the foot space to tree in the sladder.
You know, after I filmed the video I was thinking about.You know, if you wanna just get twelve foot high, real quick boom easy easy. Deer drives? Rifle season.
I thought this thing looked like a pain in the ass for months everytime I saw it but I ended up getting one and I absolutely love it. I love how high you get in only 3 moves. We’ll see if if that holds up during the hunting season but so far so good.
The technique @grayskwerel shows with placing the arch on the step and dragging the toe/curling the hamstring down makes all the difference. It's easier in a hiking boot, but I've been doing it in Lite boots, which are essentially crocs stiffness and muck width, so it can be done with any footwear. Knee distance from the tree, affected by lineman's loop length, is important as well. If you don't have enough distance, you can't place the foot correctly to slide the foot and create the distance. Tighten the loop when reaching up to set the next height, then loosen it back to climb. Flipping the lineman's while climbing with it makes things much more efficient. It took me several practice runs to get smooth with it. After getting the techniques down it's very efficient and there's no strain. Regarding the concerns with tangles, when accordioned and wrapped like @grayskwerel shows in one of his video's, I've not had it tangle yet. Just pull it from the pouch, find the ends of the wrap, let gravity unroll it, and start climbing.
Yeah I think some of it is easier said then done, the whole technique of placing the arch on the step and dragging the toe/curling the hamstring down doesn't seem to work well for me on trees that are rough, I will try it on some other trees that are less rough in the future but i'm not sure if it will matter being 260lbs there is just so much tension on those webbing but maybe I'm wrong. Its definitely super cool and something you have to really practice at to get good!! thanks for the comments.
Murphy’s Law being what it is, I bet that thing twists/tangles every time you try to use it in the dark! I was hoping you’d test it. If I was in my twenties I’d probably try it.
I'd rather pack in some good quality lightweight sticks, or use the LWCG climber when applicable, but it is a cool option for going in super light. Using an ebike to go in most of the way has made weight of gear less of an issue.
Yeah that’s a very good point, I will give him high praise for finally bringing something new and innovative to the mobile hunting market!! It sure is hard to beat a light tree stand and a few ultralight sticks!
I think it would take quite a few times to get really good using it. Sure beats screwing in spikes like I did 20-25 years ago lol. About the noise every deer in 200 yards will hear you anyway is my guess. Never hurts to try something new. 👍👍
I can hang 4 sticks and a tree stand in 15 minutes making little to no noise and be ready to hunt. But I have years of practice on this way. This could probably be done as well with lots of practice.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors these saddle rigs came along well after my time for climbing trees. At74 years old I probably don’t need to be doing that lol. Back the 80’s I welded up some of those climbers where you inch wormed two units up a tree. I made them from aircraft grade aluminum and they were very light weight. I am/was a small guy so I didn’t have to beef them up much. Being in Arkansas then finding the right tree wasn’t much problem. I mostly rifle hunted then and getting meat was a real no brainer.
There are some really cool ways to climb comming out. This is one of them. It is, relatively, intuitive for people that do climb different ways, probably not so intuitive for the newbie. Personally I hate one-sticking. I keep trying to get better at it and according to video, I’m equally or less efficient than the last time. lol. I’m also not very efficient with multi sticks but better than one sticking. The run and gun ‘best climbing method’ search continues for many.
Yeah, I truly believe that you must spend time practicing the method that you primally choose, in the deer woods you really need to be efficient and quiet to not spook game. I think there are many ways to skin the cat and whatever you choose if you practice it, you will get better. I can hang 4 sticks and a tree stand in 15 minutes making little to no noise and be ready to hunt. But I have years of practice on this way.
I got one because of trying to get super light weight on public land and it's perfect for that. But unfortunately, my old butt with bad hip, knees, and legs my 1st time trying it didn't go as hoped lol. I guess I just need lots of practice if I want to keep using it 🙃 but far as the weight. The sladder, my linesman rope and my 30 foot rappel rope with madrock and the bag I got that holds everything only weighs 5lbs which is awesome
Well, I finally put a gear demonstration on RUclips. Kinda curious what the mobile Hunting crowd thinks? MGO saddle Hunting Michigan is gonna want one 😊 17' with pack and stand 2:40, no sticks.
I can probably get you a production unit By Michigan's opener MGO, but market available is 2025 mobile Hunting expos. Hopefully with a 4'--16' 😊 I'm a short guy!! I'd just like to be able to anchor at 23'+ 19'--20' stand height is plenty to me.
@@pathfinder5804 I had a video of my design up. It works extremely well for the right set up, but if you don't have a straight vertical tree it's a hassle. Works in progress, all of us trying to build a better mouse trap 😁
I have a 1 stick thick I like enough, but I’ve been really considering this especially since my wife surprised me with a tethrd carbon platform last year.
I think you did a good job with this one! Definitely nice to see you out of your so called “comfort zone”. This product is definitely different and you did great! As far as the wear goes mine has almost zero on the band but im about 200lbs. Not taking a dig but alot of the stuff you review is definitely gonna flex/wear more vs the 150lb dude! With only 5-6 climbs in you really did awesome man!
Thanks Matt, I appreciate the comments and its also nice to hear that yours doesn’t have that much wear on it. It definitely worrys me how beat up mine is from just a few climbs. Time will tell how it looks later this year I haven’t decided if I will keep it or sell it yet.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Ill be honest like you said its a pretty cool piece of equipment! I have probably 20-30 climbs on mine and its relatively easier to do as you practice more with it. For my style though I just don’t know if its gonna fit so I am planning to list mine however again it was cool to see you out of the traditional stick, stand, platform realm. You did great on rappel lol i know you thought the landing was rough lol but you definitely did good i do the same lol
Yeah, that was my first 20 foot rapel lol, Ive done many practice rapels though, I have a 1 stick ill be playing with next. I could see the sladder being a really cool item to have on deer drives so I might keep it.
Cool product. Just curious if you tried pushing your knee into the tree to help climb on the higher steps that were harder to get into. Especially with the knee pads on. Keep up the good content!
I did not, but I am going to try that, I also watched a video of the Grayskwerl guy using his linesman rope differently than I do that should make it much easier to climb.
😂 that’s how I land every-time at 40 mph straight down. Try one sticking with the out on a limb angled platform the monarch attached to the top of a muddy pro stick and a cabled aider it’s so quiet and fast going up plus your platform is set on the stick already! I wasted tons of money and found this to be best Also any plans on trying the raccoon rig? It’s $70 bucks may be worth a try! Take care good luck!
Yeah I will be doing some 1 sticking this week actually!! I got my eye on the raccoon rig as well as the panther saddle climber, I have the lean acent climber video being posted today.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I thought about just taking a 2x4 and making my own raccoon rig and make the board strap to the top of my boots. The flat surface seems more practical then that bar them guys use digging into 250 pound feet. There ya go design a flat one. that straps to your boots so it is easier to lift. Make some money! Take care
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I'm partial to the one I designed. It's strictly a DIY proposition at this point due to a lack of acceptance. ruclips.net/video/RjxNoWH8HEk/видео.htmlsi=teFO2kVvcCw74V0p
@MichiganGreatOutdoors Thanks! I've been using this for years. The sleeve is more for stiffening the rope for ease of movement up the tree. The entire rig weighs about 4 lbs including saddle and optional carabiner. Otherwise it's metal free. Once it's attracted to the tree, it's ready for climb, descent or rappel. It's always a double connection to the tree unless going around limbs, and each tether is ground releasable. No more snagged or stuck rappel ropes.
U happen to try it in the dark I bet that'd be a cluster just trying to be quiet and not having lights shining all over the area that'd be biggest down fall for me I hate using headlamps in bedding areas
I could see someone thinking that it could be difficult, but I believe you would get better at it with practice, just like anything else with practice you get better at it. I think this is no different than a stand or sticks. I probably wouldn’t use this in a beddng area, id go with my lwcg .5 and 2 or 3 sticks.
Maaaan, after seeing this it makes me not want it. Not gonna lie. We have no shortage of straight trees here in Ohio. I think I might get a climbing platform. Thanks for the review!
Not going to lie that looks like a pain. May be good for some but definitely not my cup of tea. Maybe easier using the rappel line the whole way? Durability may be questionable if you already have that type of wear. Surprised there is no protective covering of some sort on the stitches
You having the go pro on without it recording is like me pulling a camera I’ve had out since last season to find out it stopped taking pics end of November 😂😂
I purchased one last season. It's takes several attempts to get proficient at using the Saldder. I found that very thin trees need to be avoided. I love that its just 2 lbs.
Thanks for the tips!
Thank you for a good honest review. The constructive criticism is always welcomed and appreciated. We are working on improving this system.
The man himself!! First off, thanks for bringing something to this industry that is truly innovative, the hunting industry is full of copied ideas and such. Ive never saw something like this made before.
Secondly, you make it wayyyyyy to easy looking to climb! I do appreciate your youtube channel and the detailed instructions. Keep it up!
I just bought one, I have tried it twice. Having trouble getting my foot in the top 3 loops also. I am 76 so that may have something to do with that, but I am going to keep trying.
@@davidsicard2651 gotta jam it in there!! Hahaha
Some things seem better in theory than actual practice. I feel like this is one of those things. I don't want to sound like I'm hating on it, because it is a neat idea. It just seems like it's more of a hassle to manage than it's worth. If I had it (knowing myself), regardless of how careful I was packing it up to take into the woods... I'd spend 15 minutes just untangling it before I was even ready to climb. Then I'd be so mad and frustrated that I'd throw it back in my pack and just hunt from the ground 🤣 Good video and review as always, btw!
Yeah I think that with real practice you can get good at anything, just like using a stand or a stick setup. I do however think that a normal stand and 3-4 stick setup is going to be more versatile than this.
Just got mine and I had a problem getting my foot in the rungs. I quickly realized this is the opposite of sticks in the sense that with the sladder i noticed climbing on the downside of the lean was much freaking easier... Like always I love your videos always bangers!!!
Thanks for sharing! I would agree on the lean side for sure!
One of the first one to get one when he first made them. I finally got around to modifying it so i dont have to worry about the foot space to tree in the sladder.
I have it and love it. Light, compact, does not tangle. After a few uses it becomes very quick.
thanks for the reply!!
One of the more interesting product I’ve seen, you could see how with a couple tweaks it could be a great method for some people.
I know right!!
Weigh ezier than one stick,love it ,good video Big Guy,honest review with use,Want one ,ready to throw one stick away
@@josephreichart7545 if you want mine, shoot me a message on IG or FB. I'll give u a deal on it. I think im gonna sell it, I have way to much stuff!!!
Dude... I'm loving your videos! I hope you keep going. Super clean and no wasted time. Good info and personality!
Also I'm also a 260lb polish guy lol never saddle hunted but thinking about giving it a shot!
Glad you like them!
do it man!! gotta try new things IMO!!
I use a climbing stick and 3 step aider and do the same thing but with less stuff to get tangled up.
Yeah 3 step aiders are the shiz!!!
Looks like a good thing to have in an arsenal hunting equipment.
You know, after I filmed the video I was thinking about.You know, if you wanna just get twelve foot high, real quick boom easy easy. Deer drives? Rifle season.
I thought this thing looked like a pain in the ass for months everytime I saw it but I ended up getting one and I absolutely love it. I love how high you get in only 3 moves. We’ll see if if that holds up during the hunting season but so far so good.
@@dario_d9005 seeing any wear on yours?
Hate to say it but I noticed the same thing. Im curious to see how it will look by the end of the season
Keep me posted please!!
Great video thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
The technique @grayskwerel shows with placing the arch on the step and dragging the toe/curling the hamstring down makes all the difference. It's easier in a hiking boot, but I've been doing it in Lite boots, which are essentially crocs stiffness and muck width, so it can be done with any footwear.
Knee distance from the tree, affected by lineman's loop length, is important as well. If you don't have enough distance, you can't place the foot correctly to slide the foot and create the distance. Tighten the loop when reaching up to set the next height, then loosen it back to climb. Flipping the lineman's while climbing with it makes things much more efficient.
It took me several practice runs to get smooth with it. After getting the techniques down it's very efficient and there's no strain.
Regarding the concerns with tangles, when accordioned and wrapped like @grayskwerel shows in one of his video's, I've not had it tangle yet. Just pull it from the pouch, find the ends of the wrap, let gravity unroll it, and start climbing.
Yeah I think some of it is easier said then done, the whole technique of placing the arch on the step and dragging the toe/curling the hamstring down doesn't seem to work well for me on trees that are rough, I will try it on some other trees that are less rough in the future but i'm not sure if it will matter being 260lbs there is just so much tension on those webbing but maybe I'm wrong.
Its definitely super cool and something you have to really practice at to get good!! thanks for the comments.
Murphy’s Law being what it is, I bet that thing twists/tangles every time you try to use it in the dark!
I was hoping you’d test it. If I was in my twenties I’d probably try it.
@@joehenz hahaha, I wish I was in my 20s still, I'd probably run it!! Hahaha
I have it and if you pack it right there are no issues with tangling
I'd rather pack in some good quality lightweight sticks, or use the LWCG climber when applicable, but it is a cool option for going in super light. Using an ebike to go in most of the way has made weight of gear less of an issue.
Yeah that’s a very good point, I will give him high praise for finally bringing something new and innovative to the mobile hunting market!!
It sure is hard to beat a light tree stand and a few ultralight sticks!
I think it would take quite a few times to get really good using it. Sure beats screwing in spikes like I did 20-25 years ago lol. About the noise every deer in 200 yards will hear you anyway is my guess. Never hurts to try something new. 👍👍
I can hang 4 sticks and a tree stand in 15 minutes making little to no noise and be ready to hunt. But I have years of practice on this way. This could probably be done as well with lots of practice.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors these saddle rigs came along well after my time for climbing trees. At74 years old I probably don’t need to be doing that lol. Back the 80’s I welded up some of those climbers where you inch wormed two units up a tree. I made them from aircraft grade aluminum and they were very light weight. I am/was a small guy so I didn’t have to beef them up much. Being in Arkansas then finding the right tree wasn’t much problem. I mostly rifle hunted then and getting meat was a real no brainer.
There are some really cool ways to climb comming out. This is one of them. It is, relatively, intuitive for people that do climb different ways, probably not so intuitive for the newbie. Personally I hate one-sticking. I keep trying to get better at it and according to video, I’m equally or less efficient than the last time. lol. I’m also not very efficient with multi sticks but better than one sticking. The run and gun ‘best climbing method’ search continues for many.
Yeah, I truly believe that you must spend time practicing the method that you primally choose, in the deer woods you really need to be efficient and quiet to not spook game. I think there are many ways to skin the cat and whatever you choose if you practice it, you will get better.
I can hang 4 sticks and a tree stand in 15 minutes making little to no noise and be ready to hunt. But I have years of practice on this way.
I got one because of trying to get super light weight on public land and it's perfect for that. But unfortunately, my old butt with bad hip, knees, and legs my 1st time trying it didn't go as hoped lol. I guess I just need lots of practice if I want to keep using it 🙃 but far as the weight. The sladder, my linesman rope and my 30 foot rappel rope with madrock and the bag I got that holds everything only weighs 5lbs which is awesome
yeah thats pretty light man! Stick with it, keep practicing but have a back up plan just in case in doesn't work out!
Good job I do not think it would be for me but it's a good idea. Darren
Thanks Darren!!
Interesting design.
I thought so as well
Well, I finally put a gear demonstration on RUclips. Kinda curious what the mobile Hunting crowd thinks? MGO saddle Hunting Michigan is gonna want one 😊 17' with pack and stand 2:40, no sticks.
I can probably get you a production unit By Michigan's opener MGO, but market available is 2025 mobile Hunting expos. Hopefully with a 4'--16' 😊 I'm a short guy!! I'd just like to be able to anchor at 23'+ 19'--20' stand height is plenty to me.
say what!!!
Thats sick man!
What’s your RUclips channel?
@@pathfinder5804 I had a video of my design up. It works extremely well for the right set up, but if you don't have a straight vertical tree it's a hassle. Works in progress, all of us trying to build a better mouse trap 😁
Cool idea. But looks cumbersome. Great video!
Thanks for watching!!
love mine
What platform you gonna run it with?
I have a 1 stick thick I like enough, but I’ve been really considering this especially since my wife surprised me with a tethrd carbon platform last year.
well aren't you spoiled? hahaha So many awesome choices for the mobile hunters out there these days!
I think you did a good job with this one! Definitely nice to see you out of your so called “comfort zone”. This product is definitely different and you did great! As far as the wear goes mine has almost zero on the band but im about 200lbs. Not taking a dig but alot of the stuff you review is definitely gonna flex/wear more vs the 150lb dude! With only 5-6 climbs in you really did awesome man!
Thanks Matt, I appreciate the comments and its also nice to hear that yours doesn’t have that much wear on it. It definitely worrys me how beat up mine is from just a few climbs. Time will tell how it looks later this year I haven’t decided if I will keep it or sell it yet.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Ill be honest like you said its a pretty cool piece of equipment! I have probably 20-30 climbs on mine and its relatively easier to do as you practice more with it. For my style though I just don’t know if its gonna fit so I am planning to list mine however again it was cool to see you out of the traditional stick, stand, platform realm. You did great on rappel lol i know you thought the landing was rough lol but you definitely did good i do the same lol
Yeah, that was my first 20 foot rapel lol, Ive done many practice rapels though, I have a 1 stick ill be playing with next. I could see the sladder being a really cool item to have on deer drives so I might keep it.
Cool product. Just curious if you tried pushing your knee into the tree to help climb on the higher steps that were harder to get into. Especially with the knee pads on. Keep up the good content!
I did not, but I am going to try that, I also watched a video of the Grayskwerl guy using his linesman rope differently than I do that should make it much easier to climb.
😂 that’s how I land every-time at 40 mph straight down. Try one sticking with the out on a limb angled platform the monarch attached to the top of a muddy pro stick and a cabled aider it’s so quiet and fast going up plus your platform is set on the stick already! I wasted tons of money and found this to be best Also any plans on trying the raccoon rig? It’s $70 bucks may be worth a try! Take care good luck!
Yeah I will be doing some 1 sticking this week actually!! I got my eye on the raccoon rig as well as the panther saddle climber, I have the lean acent climber video being posted today.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I thought about just taking a 2x4 and making my own raccoon rig and make the board strap to the top of my boots. The flat surface seems more practical then that bar them guys use digging into 250 pound feet. There ya go design a flat one. that straps to your boots so it is easier to lift. Make some money! Take care
That climb looked rough.
I mean its rougher than climbing sticks thats forsure!
Would climbing with a tether like 1 sticking be easier than the linesman?
might be and ive tried both but you dont wanna fall with no tether.
Nice video. Have you tried a well designed 2TC yet?
I have not, what do you suggest?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I'm partial to the one I designed. It's strictly a DIY proposition at this point due to a lack of acceptance. ruclips.net/video/RjxNoWH8HEk/видео.htmlsi=teFO2kVvcCw74V0p
Interesting concept, I like how you have some protection sleeve on the system there. Looks good in theory
@MichiganGreatOutdoors Thanks! I've been using this for years. The sleeve is more for stiffening the rope for ease of movement up the tree. The entire rig weighs about 4 lbs including saddle and optional carabiner. Otherwise it's metal free. Once it's attracted to the tree, it's ready for climb, descent or rappel. It's always a double connection to the tree unless going around limbs, and each tether is ground releasable. No more snagged or stuck rappel ropes.
So why was it not accepted?
😁👍
yup!
U happen to try it in the dark I bet that'd be a cluster just trying to be quiet and not having lights shining all over the area that'd be biggest down fall for me I hate using headlamps in bedding areas
I could see someone thinking that it could be difficult, but I believe you would get better at it with practice, just like anything else with practice you get better at it. I think this is no different than a stand or sticks. I probably wouldn’t use this in a beddng area, id go with my lwcg .5 and 2 or 3 sticks.
Maaaan, after seeing this it makes me not want it. Not gonna lie. We have no shortage of straight trees here in Ohio. I think I might get a climbing platform. Thanks for the review!
@@a.b.k1983 for sure!!!
Not going to lie that looks like a pain.
May be good for some but definitely not my cup of tea. Maybe easier using the rappel line the whole way?
Durability may be questionable if you already have that type of wear. Surprised there is no protective covering of some sort on the stitches
Yeah really think it needs something honestly, needs like a cover or a sheath on it. Its not going to hold up long term
Does not seem very safe, I don't know how I would feel about doing this in the dark
I think with practice you could get good at it, same with anything…
$240 is a bit overwhelming, there is no metal, no machining , no weld, no paint....and this will wear.
@viniciuscampos673 yeah and it did wear. I ended up selling it.
You having the go pro on without it recording is like me pulling a camera I’ve had out since last season to find out it stopped taking pics end of November 😂😂
@Stykbow Dude I was so p*****. It recorded for like a minute.I must have bumped it.
DONT WANT I WANT IT
What are you saying? LOL???