K&F Concept Filter Vs Lee & Kase - Straight out of Compton
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2019
- Another Straight out of Compton this time i was sent a couple of filters to look at, K&F Concept CPL polariser and the ND1000 Filter i also have a Reverse Grad but need to get that tested.. This was good fun testing stuff my way and the honest straight out of Compton way haha
#paulcompton #landscapephotography #k&fconcept
1.1. Reverse Grad filter in Amazon UK: amzn.to/2BtO2bf Code: Paulcompton Discount: 10% Date: until 2019/12/30
1.2. Reverse Grad filter in official website: uk.kentfaith.com/KF01.1148/?t...
2.1. Square ND1000 filter in Amazin UK: amzn.to/2P6VIIo Code: Paulcompton Discount: 10% Date: until 2019/12/30
2.2. Square ND1000 filter in official website: uk.kentfaith.com/SKU1495/?tra...
3.1. CPL filter in Amazin UK:amzn.to/31xPgwI Code: Paulcompton Discount: 10% Date: until 2019/12/30
3.2. CPL filter in official website: uk.kentfaith.com/KF01.973/?tr...
Thanks Paul for a great comparison video. I need a filter system so might go for the budget option and it's good to know they dry off well, with my bad luck with weather.
not bad for the money
Hi Paul, I still have the first lee filter holder, but screwing on that polariser is driving me nuts.Secondly, I had to buy a new field pouch earilier in the year because the velcro packed up on my old one. However, the filter holder will not fit in the new pouch as it is just a fraction too narrow. I am really miffed. I will be changing to Kase at Christmas.
Go for it... kase is nice but the polariser if not as good as LEE
great video I use K&F at the moment which I brought last year at the Photography Show, I have used them a few times and I'm very happy with them. Keep up with the videos they are fun
thanks matey, i know this is not my norm but there is lots coming
Hi Paul, great video. With regard to the correcting the colour cast in the final side by side images, obviously if it's a filter that covers the whole frame the correction would be easy to adjust. But what about when using a grad ND, with a portion of the glass clear and the rest with the ND, how can that be corrected....?
It is why I have stopped using grads I now bracket. You can use a grad in lightroom to adjust colour temp
Hi Paul, enjoyed your review on the K&F Concept ND filter kit, i am fairly new to doing the long exposure photography and i have been using a 10 stop screw filter, it worked well but it was a bit fiddly screwing it on when the weather was lousy, plus if i wanted to use a grad filter for the sky i was a bit stuck, so i decided to look at a square filter kit, i have ordered the filter kit and filter holder of the K&F site which was a lot cheaper than Amazon, looking forward to receiving the kit and getting out to try it.Thanks for the review
its a great value for money kit
I’m still looking at filters and if go with a holder or screw on. It’s nice to see a straight comparison between them. You can see that with processing there is not much different but on some you could just make out the difference in sharpness in the image.
I think if I was to do a true sharpness test that would help as well
Hi. I enjoyed the review. Thank you for taking the time. It helps sort out what to buy.
You are so welcome!
any questions ask...
Great in depth review Paul, I love the down to earth nature of these videos. I will be getting the K&F filter set as at the moment cannot justify the outlay for the kase filters. Thanks for the review ;-)
wait for the update vision two, should be June time they will be sending me one..
Hi Paul, thank you for this interesting review, especially for me thinking about buying the Kase K75 filterset, but what is surprising me is that you are using the 100x150 mm sized filters in a 58 mm lens thread. As a user of only Panasonic G9, I was looking for the K75 filterkit. Is there a significant motive to use the bigger filters (100x150) over the 75x100 filters, to your opinion? Maybe the limited amount of filters comparerd to the K9 filterkit? Greets Ton
hello and great question.. the main reason is i was a Canon shooter with 77mm lenses, i also have a full set of lenes now for the fuji.. i have even moved away from the big square filters for the Kase mag set, if you see my latest videos.. just because these are smaller to pack.. if you have or use a very wide angle maybe think about the bigger set..
Really interesting and informative video Paul, I will certainly be looking at a reverse grad because the cleaning on the lee 0.9 is a nightmare and I find the lower price kit more versatile to rough conditions 👍
Next time we are out mate we can test the two reverse grads and see how easy these are to clean as you know the water you got to chuck at me came off the ND easy
Brilliant video. Great comparisons. Made the choice so much easier. Thanks mate.
thank you i found it very wet
Paul this video has been fantastic for me because I am
thinking of buying a filter system for a long time so thank you very mush.
Your welcome
At 44:43 it seems that the wind makes the filter holder vibrate. Is this normal?
All holders catch the wind a little, as i was just tesing them it may not of been tight
Interesting video as you know form our time under the pier i dont use an expensive filter system but they get the job done. What might be an interesting test down the line is the difference between resin and glass filter?
Yes now thats a good idea, i know Lee have a cast i would love to get some Glass K&F ones to pitch the test
@@paulcomptonpdphotography and another test screw ins vs a filter systems l, just in case you need some ideas lol
again another great idea
Thank you for the demo, it was most interesting....there was a slight difference between them all, but it was no big deal, if I was buying one it would be the cheapest, as for getting them wet that would be a no chance from me I just don't do rain....once again thanks for the demo....
Your welcome, even with no rain the sea and waterfalls will make them wet so cleaning is a big thing
The " bag" you carry in a cloth bag. Is it made for filters ?
Do you mean the light brown bag i have around my neck?
@@paulcomptonpdphotography yes
Yes its the Lee filter pouch
amzn.to/3CWBQ1t
It is very well made and i do recomend it
gusset would it not work better the other way around?
If you are talking about the Lee ND i had to turn it the other way to make it fit in the K&F holder, the Lee one only fits my Lee holder the right way around
Cheers Paul for this video, lot of time and effort on your part to give fellow photographers some info on what they're paying into, and the price for the case and Lee are incredible in comparison to the K&F
K&F have a new 10stop out now, see my latest videos for detail its better still
Paul Compton PDphotography watching it right now 👍
haha ace 😎
Good video, one little thing I noticed is that the Kase ND is 150 x 100, so same size as ND grads. Must be easier for adjusting with both fitted. Very helpful info though.
its not easy to use the 150 grad and the 150 ND as it can get in the way a little
Thanks for that - I use Kase but with a 100 x 100 ND and was thinking of getting the 150 - will stick with the one I have now. Ta again.
i love the Kase ND
I'm wanting square filters so I can use graduated nd's. I like the lol of the Lee system but it's prohibitively expensive (70 quid for a plastic holder and 200+for a polariser). I like tgd idea of the k&f but have a couple of questions. First, do they make wide angle specific adapters? I can't find any anywhere and according t o the Lee system matcher, 2 of my lenses would require wide angle adaptors. Second, can you stack the k&f holder on to the cpl so you can use both the cpl and square filters? Do you just get the right size adapter to fit the cpl to then mount the square holder on?
i get what your saying about the Lee system it very costly but it is a good piece of kit, the problem you have is the K&F does not yet have a CPL fitment, i know they are working on one at the moment and ill be one of the first to see it when its ever made. As for the idea of fitting the system to a CPL round filter this could work fine if you have a CPL with a thread on the front, the other part of the question i cant answer about the wide angle, i have never had an issue with my lee kit on my 16mm full frame canon, and defo have no issue on my fuji.. what lens are you thinking of using?
@@paulcomptonpdphotography thanks for the reply. I have a canon efs 10-18mm stm and the 24mm 2.8 pancake. The Lee compatibility checker said I'd need a wide angle adaptor for those two lenses. I already have a cpl with 67mm thread which fits my 10-18 and is my biggest diameter (I then have step down rings for my other lenses). This has a front thread which I can put my circular nd filters on.
so i would say yes to the fitting it on the front of the CPL, but doing this will push it away from the lens so on a very wide lens this will be a problem, i am sure if Lee say that you need a wide filter system then thats the same for all, as the CPL on the Lee system is all ready 105mm, what camera is it on as 10 on a crop sensor will be around 24mm?
maybe you can join our facebook group and ask on there it have some good people with different advice facebook.com/groups/LVAUK
@@paulcomptonpdphotography thanks. That's what I was thinking. It is on a crop sensor (canon 200d). Sadly I left Facebook a while ago so don't have access (I am on Instagram at northumberland_skies however 😉). I'll probably keep saving and praying for a lottery win to get the Lee's. I suppose there's not an awful lot of value in buying something I might want to upgrade later anyway.
that is very true, buy once haha but i would not think you need the full wide kit on a crop camera, but Lee must of tested them, what i would do is wait for the NEC show to get back on and test them on your camera, or if your local to me ill let you use mine i have Lee and Kase and K&F kits
You do not need and padding on the sides you not get any light leaking in as light travels in straight lines if you ever been in a darkroom you can enter with no doors just what is called a maze painted in black.
RE the finish on the have you tried cleaning with ROR this might remove the problem
As for colour cast it will only bother anyone taking images in JPG in post it just one click to sort any cast if there is one.
You say the CPL felt plastic yet its sold as “Super slim and lightweight aluminum frame” so is one ring plastic?
Plastic feel but not plastic. It's good for the money. As for the ND it was a test of glass and yes the gasket is to stop light and the lee one does in the lee holder.
Honestly mate that was a great in-depth review. For me the way the water ran on the K&F WOW and im sold I will be gettint the starter kit with the 10 stop for sure.
lol maybe able o have this one dude, if Mrs C does not want it!!!
@@paulcomptonpdphotography mate that would be awesome I'm sure I can sweet talk Mrs C lol
ok lets keep fingers crossed
@@paulcomptonpdphotography haha
That was GREAT !!!!! Proper field testing in difficult conditions. Thanks for struggling to cram it all in - K&F will do nicely at that price - roll on Santa List time :)
I think they are a very good price, i have some more stuff on the way to try out
@@paulcomptonpdphotography Shall look forward to that - in the meantime have a good time in Snowdonia with Jason - sadly I can't come - more eye surgery :( BUT looking forward to the vids that will follow :)
i am going to drag him out of wALES one day
Hi mate. Great demo. I have got a cheap kit which I got last month, has I have never use them yet.
Cheap is ok, and to be honest if your converting to B&W colour cast is not an issue haha
PS: the self timer behaviour is NOT fuji's fault, this is a "Custom setting" in the menus, you go to self timer, and select to leave it on, until you turn it off. Also some settings can be saved, aka left set as last shot, like drive mode.( also there is a "safety" feature, that any self timer, bracketing, etc. is automatically turned off when the camera is turned off, then On again, to allow you to get a shot, without these other features getting in the way).
another work-around, is to set this up, then save that configuration in C1/2/3 setting on the dial, then when it is turned off, it automatically re-loads this setting, as the dial is on C1/C2 as this is part of the setup you have selected.
thanks, its been a long time now i think i have sorted a lot
one of my issues is auto ISO dont acually work it still overides the settings haha
Why put the filters with gaskets on the wrong way round?
haha this is funny so many people saying that, it was because i was trying to show the Lee filter in a different holder, the gasket will not go in the kase holder as it has a built in gasket all ready
I don't know which is more of a pain in the arse.. . attaching a cable release through an L bracket, or messing with the Fuji 2 second delay setting.
both a pain haha
It's called a gasket as mentioned, and Formatt Hitech sell packs of 3
Gasket lol not a gusset hahaha
It looked like you installed the filters with the gaskets backward but I didn't hear an explanation for why... perhaps I missed it? Also, that K&F holder fits so loosely that it looks like it shook quite badly in the wind, that's not ideal for long exposure photography. But for the price, I'm sure an easy solution could be worked out. Not trying to be a Negative Nellie just some observations. Keep up the good work.
This is the whole reason i make video, i dont normally do reviews but you have made some good points and thank you.. First when i use the Lee ND filter with the gasket fitted they will not fit other makes of holder as the Lee holder id made to take the foam gasket, so yes i should of said. Second point yes the K&F holder is loos and i think in time they will improve on things like a locking system, this is why again you have made a great point they can see and read..
Those K&F filters look really impressive!! Not so sure about the filter holder though.
Mike (Nisi user)
no the way it fell off is not great other than that it was perfect for the money
So the CPL isn't compatible with the filter K&F holder?
No they are separate item
@@paulcomptonpdphotography That's what it looked like. I've been making due with screw in filters and holding out for a Wine Country filter system... That and flying pigs. ;-D
hahaha screw on are good Denise uses them
This knf holder can i use for kit fuji 15-45mm?? I think knf best budget for filter tabkyou
Yes get the adaptor rings any size
@@paulcomptonpdphotography is the kit 15-45mm good for lanscape potography??
any lens is a good lens over no lens.. what camera are you using it on
@@paulcomptonpdphotography on fuji xt200
not sure about the lens quality but it will be ok for wider landscape
you're mounting the filters with the foam inside out. The foam is meant to block the light from getting in between the filter holder and the big stopper
yes yes i know this, but if you look the Lee filter is not in the LEE holder so for this test i had to face it the wrong way
can you use the CPL and the kit at the same time ?
you could fit the kit to the CPL but its not designed like the other holders, i would like to see K&F make a holder with a built in CPL
@@paulcomptonpdphotography think i might go with the nisi kit
i have not tried that one
Well I'm going to Try the K&F Kit. in the US on Amazon it is $72.99. I looked at there site and it looks like they only ship to the UK.
no way gutted.. there may be a US place
Paul Compton PDphotography I looked but the Paulcompton code did not work.
i copied what i was given.. what a shame, if i could post it to you i would
just letting others know if you are in the US the code is not going to work.
Not to say to much. but you put all the filters with gaskets pointing out???
there was and is a reason, the Lee filter only fits the lee holder i was putting the filters in the kase mount haha
Paul Compton PDphotography I noticed that it looked like the leaf filter also had a purple tinge to the pictures would that be the filter or because it was put in the opposite way?
The lee is normally good so maybe, but i do think the Kase is better
Good review, buddy. I'm seriously considering switching to Kase. My Lee big stopper has hurrendous colour cast. I need to adjust images by +2650K and tint +25 to get them back to the correct colour. Absolute rubbish for a £180 piece of kit. Lee are are victory of style over substance, IMHO
lol so true i love the kase i have to say and the K&F great for the money
If we are all being honest Paul, you get what you pay for. Lee polariser with holder is around £320 and most serious Photographers have one in their bag.
If your just getting into filters theres nothing wrong with the cheaper ones but you will be upgrading like we all do.
Chris i have got to say my Lee CPL is amazing but that said i would not buy another the Kase one is great and the cheap C&F one is very very good... so i have to disagree with you on this occasion cheaper is not the case these days.. Lee is well over prices and i have had mine years now. These days other companies are on the case... Nisi, Kase, C&F, Benro and others all make very good filters and CPL's at different prices..
The packaging is for shop display
lol thats as many but do we need to have it so fancy these days, i work in packing so i know what goes into it... but hey its about the good inside
I think it’s a gasket Paul. Denise will probably tell you what a gusset is. 🤔🥴😀
lol yer sure it is but dont sound as good haha
"Some moron's got it on bracketing"
Is that your new name, LOL?
YEP i just could not work out what was going on, but i had left bracketing on but the exposures were so long it through me haha
Ooh I’m after a filter system
What you after
@@paulcomptonpdphotography probably Lee filter system, once I sought out what to get e.g foundation system and different grads
just depends what your doing with them lee is costly
@@paulcomptonpdphotography i want a decent filter system with little or no colour cast, a few soft edge nd's and some hard edge, also a reverse nd and of course a big stopper
Philip Watson I'm moving from Lee to Kase to get away from hurrendous colour cast
Im unsure if he likes packaging or not
Lol no packing haha
Well I did a test with my LEE 10 STOP FILTER and the water just ran right off it.. I think your test is flawed.
Is yours a Lee ND or is it a Lee IRND?
@@paulcomptonpdphotography I bought it in 2016 and then it was glass. Also, I wouldn't think of reviewing something until I used it for about 2 to 3 months. Like all things our feeling change once the new is gone and used in real time environments. Got to remember saving a few bucks might not work out for you in the long run. Like to see how you feel by the time summer rolls around next year?
Its is not about what i would have, i just wanted to show you all what i had in my hand, your must have the old Lee ND filters the Little or Big Stopper, they updated them and made then better quality and the price went from £100 to £180 for the new IRND 6 or 10Stop yes these are a much nicer quality but an absolute bugger to clean, when speaking to Lee they told me i had to change my cleaner fluid and cloth and it works, but out in the fluid i dont always have the cleaner with me... And i totally agree with you it takes time to test and try stuff out, so ill be looking at these filter for a while to see how they are... for me Kase is my choice price and quality..
@@paulcomptonpdphotography thanks must be a boring week in the photo world as Nigel is trying to sell filters as well.. Will check out the videos as you go forward and see where they take you. Thank you
not trying to sell buddy just wanted to say about them in return for them sending me the merch..lol
keep you presentation flow like water, one-way flow will be nicer, but still I love the detail :-)
Thanks, will do!
Summary = 41:03
Summery ?
@@paulcomptonpdphotography Summary of your findings in the video. In case if people don't have 45 mins.
i see...
Les filtres Nisi boucoup mieux , surtout le dernier version V6 cpl spécial landscap
i have never used Nisi.. i am now using case and hope to try others soon