@@leandrocastello309 At the very least it's an excuse to keep Magnus active in the setting and the Drukari relevant while not interfering with the rest of the storylines. And if they fail to prevent any major changes then they don't have to kill off any named characters and give some abstract devastating number loss to the Drukari that means nothing in the long run.
I always understood the powerbalance as such; The Big Three. Admech, Church and Administratum are the most central High Lords. The Church and State have broad power everywhere, and the Admech has concentrated power on its own worlds. In exchange for not interfering much in Imperial Politics, the Church and State leaves the Admech alone in their own domains.
In addition I think it's understood that Mars can be "sovereign" but only as long as they continue to supply the Imperium with technology. If they ever stop, Mars would be invaded pretty much instantly.
It's also important to note that the mechanicus has an extremely powerful military in its own right, and considering it has functioning central authority is probably far more capable at wielding its power than an Imperial contemporary
Those calling Cawl an Heretic would surely call Raskian an Heretic too, one innovate (allegedly) and the other straight up gives access to the Golden Throne to a bunch of Drukharii
This series together with the watchers of the throne books provide the best and most detailed look at Terra in the current Era Indomitus. Add in Avenging Son and Cypher: Lord of the Fallen and you've got a great snapshot of the throneworld as experienced by a wide variety of perspectives.
When I read The Dark City I thought that the Fabricator General would never endanger himself like that, so I like the backup/repository theory, more specifically I would go with the idea that what we see in the book is a sort of ambassador of himself. While the "real" Raskian is safe and sound on Mars, there is a mobile version of him attending business on Terra or wherever he is needed, and somehow connected with the Raskian on Mars. Whether we're talking about a copy or a detached portion of himself is up for speculation. There's so much we don't know about the Mechanicus, I don't feel like it's that big of a stretch to assume that the Fabricator General has access to some spicy technology from the Dark Age to bring the unthinkable into reality, and I really like the idea. 😁 Love your vids btw, it's thanks to you that I started reading 40k novels and after 2 years I keep going down this amazing rabbit hole.
Did anything ever happen to Mars after they created that one super Primarch robot thing in the webway that betrayed everyone? I wonder why that wasn’t enough to go to War with Mars. That robot primarch thing probably could’ve helped out with webway battle a lot.
@@chrisgood8438 I believe it was the Archimandrite. It was a huge robot made by the mechanicus. But it ordered the retreat during the war of the webway so all of Mars’ forces left behind imperium to fight the demons alone.
Brilliant topic Rho. Personally I can't get the image of the old windows talking paper clip being the high lord powered by a combination of windows and Apple Mac technologies along the back wall.
Chris Wraight is my favorite author overall but my absolute favorite novel is by Mike Brooks. Chris Wraight really does the Custodes proud and advances some amazing lore while Mike Brooks' Lion is my absolute favorite character in all 40k. This new returned Lion is so relatable and likable. With that said, I think Wraight's Vaults of Terra and Watchers of the Throne series are must reads in the current setting. But a HUGE problem with GW lore is that they often leave it incomplete or just kill story arcs. Ynarri, Octarius, etc. They were built up as something and then just wilted away. I feel this will happen to this latest Nid invasion near Terra, I feel absolutely nothing will come of it. So would we know if there is a new Fabricator General? Do we think that GW even knows?
he s superior to cawl because he s wiser, i can not imagine cawl saying "i can t do this is beyond my understanding" lol. Probably he s able to retain all of his memories or something like that.
Am I the only one that when they try and think of what Raskian might look like, they can only think of the wall that told riddles in the kids show knightmare?
Raskian can be disassemble in the book the emperor's legion the mentioned when he came to earth that had to prepare his installation in the room were all the high lord meet
I’d say the High Lord of the Adminastratum is weirdly probably the most powerful personally. Didn’t one of the novels suggest this? I think Raskin is probably dead at the end the book. Though it hasn’t been clearly stated in it later novels I don’t see this as much against it, it could have happened off camera and not be mentioned again till some future point when GW want to bring up the Fabricator again as a plot point.
Well if the core issue of this story scares even the Mechanicus so badly that they commit ET levels of heresy here. I'd say that heresy be damned we should probably listen to what they have to say.
Honestly I was sure Raskian was gone till now... damn I was very pissed of Navradaran being gone (his interacion with Aleya made me laugh out loud), not a big fan of Raskian AND a super duper fan of Belisarius Cawl so not really bthered if the room sized comps is gone. I don't think there will be a confrontation between Cal and the Fab.Gen, whatever or whomever this one will be. what I cannot wait to see is a confrontation between Cawl and Cawl "inferior" with the potential of somebody finding out that there is a Bobby G minime... let see in the (hopefuly near) future what will come out from new books
Vaults of Terra was a weird trilogy, because a lot of the major plot points were barely believable and really stretching the imagination. The senile Inquisitor was annoying, and the ending was so dumb because it made the entire thing a complete waste of time.
I feel like he could be killed off especially with Vashtorr's introduction and the Cawl inferior "malfunctioning" to Gorrillaman about instating Cawl as fab general could all be a big ploy by Vashtorr to get the one tech priest who actually invents/pushes progress and indoing so would empower Vashtorr.
The drukari should kidnap magnus for their throne. That would be a hilarious twist.
They'd need to get the ultramarines to help put him in a box to ship to the webway😂
@@mitchelarchbold9219 😂😂 that would be heresy.
They should _try_ it. I dont think they can get any closer to the goal than that
@@leandrocastello309 At the very least it's an excuse to keep Magnus active in the setting and the Drukari relevant while not interfering with the rest of the storylines. And if they fail to prevent any major changes then they don't have to kill off any named characters and give some abstract devastating number loss to the Drukari that means nothing in the long run.
I hear tts Magnus whining to kitten about being stuck on their throne and kitten is just like Im locked up with you ketchup boy lol
I always understood the powerbalance as such;
The Big Three. Admech, Church and Administratum are the most central High Lords. The Church and State have broad power everywhere, and the Admech has concentrated power on its own worlds. In exchange for not interfering much in Imperial Politics, the Church and State leaves the Admech alone in their own domains.
In addition I think it's understood that Mars can be "sovereign" but only as long as they continue to supply the Imperium with technology. If they ever stop, Mars would be invaded pretty much instantly.
It's also important to note that the mechanicus has an extremely powerful military in its own right, and considering it has functioning central authority is probably far more capable at wielding its power than an Imperial contemporary
I for real read "Fabricator General Pakistan" and was like "The What?"
Yeah me too lol
😂😂😂
Yeah I did the same
Hello from Pakistan. We don't have the Fabricator. This is not like the last time.
Yea, but that guys fine.
Those calling Cawl an Heretic would surely call Raskian an Heretic too, one innovate (allegedly) and the other straight up gives access to the Golden Throne to a bunch of Drukharii
This series together with the watchers of the throne books provide the best and most detailed look at Terra in the current Era Indomitus. Add in Avenging Son and Cypher: Lord of the Fallen and you've got a great snapshot of the throneworld as experienced by a wide variety of perspectives.
When I read The Dark City I thought that the Fabricator General would never endanger himself like that, so I like the backup/repository theory, more specifically I would go with the idea that what we see in the book is a sort of ambassador of himself. While the "real" Raskian is safe and sound on Mars, there is a mobile version of him attending business on Terra or wherever he is needed, and somehow connected with the Raskian on Mars. Whether we're talking about a copy or a detached portion of himself is up for speculation. There's so much we don't know about the Mechanicus, I don't feel like it's that big of a stretch to assume that the Fabricator General has access to some spicy technology from the Dark Age to bring the unthinkable into reality, and I really like the idea. 😁
Love your vids btw, it's thanks to you that I started reading 40k novels and after 2 years I keep going down this amazing rabbit hole.
The Mechanicum is the mitochondria of the Empire.
The fabricator general is awesome. A very metal 40k character.
Did anything ever happen to Mars after they created that one super Primarch robot thing in the webway that betrayed everyone? I wonder why that wasn’t enough to go to
War with Mars. That robot primarch thing probably could’ve helped out with webway battle a lot.
What super primarch robot thing ? I'm super intrigued but can't find anything with a google search. Any pointers ?
@@chrisgood8438 I believe it was the Archimandrite. It was a huge robot made by the mechanicus. But it ordered the retreat during the war of the webway so all of Mars’ forces left behind imperium to fight the demons alone.
It was mostly missed in the conflict, and they all died anyway
Sawess as😊a
Brilliant topic Rho. Personally I can't get the image of the old windows talking paper clip being the high lord powered by a combination of windows and Apple Mac technologies along the back wall.
"It looks like you're trying to fix the Golden Throne!
Would you like help?"
Who’s to say Raskier was ever physically there to begin with and wasn’t just controlling a servitor from a great distance
Chris Wraight is my favorite author overall but my absolute favorite novel is by Mike Brooks. Chris Wraight really does the Custodes proud and advances some amazing lore while Mike Brooks' Lion is my absolute favorite character in all 40k. This new returned Lion is so relatable and likable. With that said, I think Wraight's Vaults of Terra and Watchers of the Throne series are must reads in the current setting. But a HUGE problem with GW lore is that they often leave it incomplete or just kill story arcs. Ynarri, Octarius, etc. They were built up as something and then just wilted away. I feel this will happen to this latest Nid invasion near Terra, I feel absolutely nothing will come of it. So would we know if there is a new Fabricator General? Do we think that GW even knows?
he s superior to cawl because he s wiser, i can not imagine cawl saying "i can t do this is beyond my understanding" lol. Probably he s able to retain all of his memories or something like that.
Am I the only one that when they try and think of what Raskian might look like, they can only think of the wall that told riddles in the kids show knightmare?
Raskian is going to appear from some web way with a group of friendly Drakari agreeing to fix the golden throne
fav lore channel
If he had no biology then Drukhari would not be interested - they would see him as a "weird machine", not a useful source of suffering.
they wanted access to big E
He seems to explode all the time
It is quite suspicious
You'd have to agree...
Raskian can be disassemble in the book the emperor's legion the mentioned when he came to earth that had to prepare his installation in the room were all the high lord meet
I find it amusing to frame it as the FG allowed the Custodian a meeting Ike he had a choice
I know this may be unpopular but the Cawl plot line is STINKING of a certain Ca’Tan we all know
The drag queen of bars?
Do you ever wonder if the Mechanicus has someone in charge of the development and creation of stimulants that they call the "Caffinator General"?
Just like the Tau and Aun'Va.
Killed by a callidus assassin but appearing to be still alive through Tau ai.
I’d say the High Lord of the Adminastratum is weirdly probably the most powerful personally. Didn’t one of the novels suggest this? I think Raskin is probably dead at the end the book. Though it hasn’t been clearly stated in it later novels I don’t see this as much against it, it could have happened off camera and not be mentioned again till some future point when GW want to bring up the Fabricator again as a plot point.
Well if the core issue of this story scares even the Mechanicus so badly that they commit ET levels of heresy here. I'd say that heresy be damned we should probably listen to what they have to say.
Raskian speaks to the inquisition in the same way any educated being learns a foreign language
Sounds like an interesting guy
Any cryptek would look at Raskian and laugh at the primitive being.
Honestly I was sure Raskian was gone till now... damn I was very pissed of Navradaran being gone (his interacion with Aleya made me laugh out loud), not a big fan of Raskian AND a super duper fan of Belisarius Cawl so not really bthered if the room sized comps is gone. I don't think there will be a confrontation between Cal and the Fab.Gen, whatever or whomever this one will be. what I cannot wait to see is a confrontation between Cawl and Cawl "inferior" with the potential of somebody finding out that there is a Bobby G minime... let see in the (hopefuly near) future what will come out from new books
"Fabricator general spoiler warning to begin."
Rho!!
RRRHHHHOOOOO!!!
Didnt he get kill by Vashtor during the Arks of Omen
Thought he went to the dark city to make a deal with the dark eldar bit it went bad
@@2guys1cliplol I think he was supposed to but got sent to the toaster in the warp
Is it true the admech vote their leaders in?
ALGORITHM
Vaults of Terra was a weird trilogy, because a lot of the major plot points were barely believable and really stretching the imagination. The senile Inquisitor was annoying, and the ending was so dumb because it made the entire thing a complete waste of time.
you just explained how an average work day of imperium high lords work.
So funny who in theory is like number 3 in power got smoked.
Comment for the comment god.
Damn, I'm early
We need more tech priests of note, Raskian would be a great special character
I feel like he could be killed off especially with Vashtorr's introduction and the Cawl inferior "malfunctioning" to Gorrillaman about instating Cawl as fab general could all be a big ploy by Vashtorr to get the one tech priest who actually invents/pushes progress and indoing so would empower Vashtorr.
Commorragh is pronounced like:
Gomorrha. / (ɡəˈmɒrə) / noun. Old Testament one of two ancient cities near the Dead Sea, the other being Sodom,