Future Classic? My CasiOak Loves & Hates + New 'Mini' Thoughts + Possible Redesign......
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The Casio GA2100 has been out for 18 months now and I have been wearing mine A LOT, so I thought it was time to do a bit of a long term update. My loves, my not so loves, my thoughts on the new CasiOak Mini, and what I would LOVE to see Casio do with this model in the future. Let me know your thoughts on this one please. Cheers, Jody
I really like that the smaller version isn’t branded as “BABY-G”.
coulda been worse!
I would wear some baby-G if Baby-G weren't on the bezel.
There is a mini collection but hard to find outside Japan
But Baby-G coloured..
I think they come in boxes that say "Baby G" but besides that its good that they didnt brand it everywhere
Yeah, that would have been alot worse!
I'd wear the smaller model if they did the same or similar colours to the standard model.
I have a strong feeling that more colors are in the cards, it’s the GShock way.
@@IansModRite Unquestionably, let's just hope they're good ones?
The smaller one : I hope more colourways are on the cards .... BUT would not purchase until the Modding kits are available
I think so!
@@davidsbikeride just in case you didn't hear, they are available now!
Can't wait to see Casio take same approach with Duro - now 40mm with pink hands, glittered indices and panda logo instead of marlin
🤦♂️😱
Gotta agree with Karl
I'd buy it all the same. Just as Jody said - gender colours belong to the past.
@@vaclav_fejt Hey, more power to you. I have nothing against more traditionally feminine color variants. I was criticizing this mentality "smaller variant = model for women". They should have just added few classic color options, then no matter the gender you can pick something you like.
Ah, the Casioak, my current everyday/beater watch. Love this watch. I agree, making it solar would be the icing on the cake. Your reimagined version, while nice, wouldn’t be something I’d want. What attracted me to it in the first place is the emphasis on analog and forcing the digital to a secondary role. To me if I really want to look at the digital part of it, I can press the light button and I’m good to go… Otherwise I can ignore it, which is my preferred state of being when it comes to watches- ignore anything which interferes with telling the time at a glance and/or tries to muck up the dial with it’s presence.
I said the words on your t-shirt out loud and the cat started floating.
what does it say on the shirt?
I agree... as a guy waiting for Casio to release a smaller version of the CasiOak, I'm disappointed that they did not have the foresight to produce a black/white version or a black/black or a black/silver... you get the point. I'll just wait until they come to their senses and make something in *BLACK!*
Lady here: 1. yeah i think the new baby casioaks look better than the regular ones (yes to the bling)
2. No i probably still won't buy one, they absolutely would've sold better if they had made them more "masculine"
Bling Bling! Thanks for watching.
@@djzrobzombie2813 it is a German word, means something like the "spirit of a time"
I think more like .. spirit of our time ..
Just One More Watch how to get the new ones coming out on the 21st? Any website recommended? Thank you Sir:-)
I got it straight away and went for the black with rose markers. Love it! It’s my first g shock and it’s class. The rose gold is actually what made me go for it rather than the size, I’m a sucker for gold of any tone! 😁
Good to see I'm not alone, I really don't mind the colorways
@@nicholaskenneth113 if you’re a tacky tacky bitch (like myself) then you’ll think it looks awesome in the full rose metal mod kit too! 👌🏻
@@kieranrats94 Yeah, those metal mod kits all look awesome. Too bad I have a smallish (6.25") wrist that simply can't handle their monstrous 50mm+ lug-to-lugs
I bought one too with the rose gold and don't think for a second it makes it feminine!!! We do have guys wearing pink shirts and rosy colors with no issue at all. You get 2 benefits with the black and rose gold indices. First, you can see very well the hands and the time immediately unlike the all black ones and secondly, you don't have thi huge watch on the wrist because they sized it down a bit.
i can see myself buying an all white suit, and a white top hat and wearing that gshock like some kind of villain from batman comic books.
Dr. EVIL from Austin Powers would go for the Jelly Fish version. Number 2 would probably end up with the Pink.
"Oh, Avon!"
I like the black and rose gold smaller one! And as was already said, I'm definitely OK with wearing a ladies' watch if it doesn't say it on the watch itself (Baby-G...). Let's hope they do release more colorways for this smaller model in the future too.
Baby-G is such a bad marketing name
For cycling or motorcycling, piece of foam pipe insulation on the handlebars and you can strap your watch around it for instant time display.
That's a pretty darn good idea mate. Cheers!
Used to do this as a young kid around the crash pad my BMX handlebars
That black and rose gold MiniOak is gonna look great with black and rose gold metal case that will eventually show up on Ali.
Male watch lover here and I bought the women's one in black with rose gold. Didn't even know it was a "women's" watch. I just found it on my store and fell in love. For me the bling it's not so blingy in person and adds a little something and the watch fits perfectly my very slim wrist. As they say, always try the watch and if you like it, you like it.
I have those legibility issues tho. When I'm at the gym the hands don't let me see clear the stop timer sometimes cause they get in the way.
Very Happy with the watch even though. It changed my way of wearing watches so maybe my best recent purchase. Would recommend!!
I did the same, purchased one without knowing it being a ladies watch, and have also fell in love with it
I just acquired the mini casioak, black with rose gold indices. I have found many sites are now calling this watch as both for ladies and men. Personally, rose gold is not just a ladies colorway. It is used on many different brands to include Rolex and they are not just for ladies. There are many men with smaller wrists that cry out for a smaller size watch and this mini does just that. Other than the size, it possesses the same functions and qualities as the Ga 2100. So, rest easy guys, this mini gets the job done splendidly and it looks great.
I personally don’t mind wearing ladies’ watches as long as I feel they don’t clearly look like ladies watches haha. AAAAAND I’d love to see an after market metal case for the Casio Royale like the Ali-Express G-Shock cases. I’ve done a little bit of research and I didn’t find anything.
I know a guy that makes one in bronze. But it costs around 200usd.
Timex has the command urban metal which I'd say scratches the same itch
I don't care if a watch *looks like* a "ladies' watch", in fact sometimes I have seen some I really liked, but a "ladies' watch" is going to have a strap that is too small for my wrist and I can't wear it even if I want to.
Skxmod do aftermarket cases for the Royale in stainless steel (polished, matte, black, polished & black) and in bronze. I have a polished & black with an orange silicone strap, and it's brilliant. Sapphire crystal too.
You absolutely hit the nail on the head. As a man I want a man’s watch or at least a watch that isn’t marketed to women or a child. Why bother saying a watch is for a man or woman, just make the watch and let whoever likes it make the purchase!
I'm a man and I think the white one is an absolute stunner!
I'm definitely wearing it.
Very Miami Vice
Same, Just ordered it 😜
Same mine has arrived today as I really like it
Loving my grey casioak. I'm so glad they came out with a color that wasnt a negative display, but i'd definitely be willing to pay extra for it to be solar powered. Ive learned to live with the tiny digi display but making it bigger wouldn't hurt either.
Gotta agree with you Jody!! All Casio had to do do is come up with a black version with those white grey markers you have in the new smaller version! I’ve got the Camo version coming! Looking forward to it even though it is big;) well done Glynn!!!!
Russell!!! I almost whipped myself into a frenzy today and bought a second one too. Ha!
Can't wait for your review. Ive just got the yellow version coming this week. Drunk purchase. Can't wait but slightly nervous now due to Jodie's views on size and usability. But still looks cool.
Finally watched a seminar on watches and clocks
It was about time.
We're psychically linked. I was investigating this watch yesterday and thinking jomw needed to do a video about this watch.
Psyche!
And I just tried it on my wrist yesterday. I was surprised how small it is...
I’ve bought the black Casioak with white hands and indexes after watching your previous video. So true everything you said in this one. I would just add lume on the indexes in your design to make it even more perfect.
Finally ordered one today. Was on offer for around 91 USD equivalent and I managed to bag the very last one on offer. Comes tomorrow and can't wait. Not only cool but my very first G-Shock ever. Quite excited to get it. Strange how it still gives you the feeling of getting a far more expensive watch.
I find the blush pink a stunner and couldn't resist ordering one as soon as I saw it. Really looking forward to seeing it in person. I think in some press shots it's very pink, but in better hands-on shots it appears more ivory (and rose gold indices are not that bright). Which is just a gorgeous unique combination. Dude here who does like a little colour and pale pinks are uber masculine 😏
I have a barely 7" wrist and most Gshocks look ridiculous on my wrist. I own a couple because i like them and their functions but I don't wear them. I would love to have a 39-42mm Gshock that wasn't a babyG. I'd wear it.
I have a "barely 7 inch wrist" and the GA-2100 looks good and fits well on my wrist. I would never, ever wear any other G-Shock on my wrist (other than a "square"). They are all seemingly made for men who weigh 200+ lbs.
If you're in to all black G's you might want to have a look at the G-MS MSG-W100G-1AJF. It's a baby-G, but it doesn't say it on the bezel nor does it look like one. Cheers from a 6" incher ;)
@@storm3016 Yeah, that sucker is pretty killer! Still surprisingly thick at 13mm, but I'd wear that thing for sure.
@@randomhandle same here. 6.5 inch wrist, yet still two out of five watches in my collection are Gs - the blue 2100 and the classic square. Both look gorgeous on me and get a ton of wrist time :)
@@randomhandle Yeah, it's the baby-G version of the GST-W300 and GST's are generally pretty thick. It doesn't wear like a 13mm watch because of the other case dimensions though, my SKX has about the same thickness but it feels way thicker than the GMS. This one will still slide under a cuff easily.
Love the transparent model - looks great on the wrist.
The black with rose gold looks very nice! It adds a bit of flair to a boring black G!
I just don’t like that they seemed to have swapped the metal buckle for a plastic one on the mini.
The new concept design for GA-2100 V2.0 is superb by the way!
That t-shirt is a masterpiece
Heey!l was just wondering about that shirt! Could you tell me what the text means?thx😊
@@marlieslogotheti you don't have to spend a fortune, if you don't want to, to get a great watch, on your wrist
@@AK-rq1cz l wow..l can't believe l couldn't figure that out🙈🙈thx!!😊
Whew! Thx AK. I was having a dickins of a time TTFTO
Nothing screams manliness more then a gent who rocks a good looking ladies watch proudly and dosent care what anyone else thinks.
or you could argue that the man is trying too hard to prove something?...
yes but also the chromed indices look bad...
@@soybeing I like dive watches with chromed/gilt detailing, but perhaps this is resin it just looks extra cheap?
@@GodIsInHisHeaven yes, the gaw 100 for example is an awesome watch but the shiny plastic indices kinda break it for me
also I don't see many people wearing a lot of pink resin watches and it might be because I have no idea who's wardrobe they fit
@@soybeing get the previous Rangeman, it's pure G-Shock, before they went a bit fashion-watchy. I have the new MTG which is also amazing, you might not like it as it's quite shiny, but it feels and looks first class.
Oris, Omega, Lorier, Baume & Mercier, and Rolex owner here....FINALLY took the plunge this week and got a G-Shock.....in the black with rose gold indices 43mm baby g. I'd wanted a Casioak for a while, but I don't like huge watches. I had no idea the baby G 43 was marketed to women. Doesn't matter. It's a perfect G-Shock for me. Love this thing. I waited years for the one I'd actually would wear.
100% agree with your take that it is a mistake to market the smaller version as a women's watch.
I sold my stealth version because it was so hard to read/use that it was just a fashion accessory. Loved the design tho, I might be tempted if I can find a good deal 2nd hand.
I have the grey and blue version now also, worth checking out in terms of that element. Love my black out too though...
I have the stealth model and I love it. But, yeah, it's really tough to read. The penalty for looking like rogue CIA agent in a Hollywood film, I guess.
@@randomhandle haha, agreed, cost benefit works for me
I have it but have no problem reading it
Stealth is so fucking hard to read. Looks cia agent but its has terrible legibility
About time Skmei made a Baby Casioak in 40mm
Ha! The SkmeiShock FakeOak!
this comment made my day. :)
@@JustOneMoreWatch The Smoak!
That's a pretty good redesign, looks good, I'd probably add a second hand just for familiarity.
I agree in the uk we just changed to summer time it was like setting the video recorder from the 80 s
Use mine for work it gets a load of stick and just keeps going great video cheers
I remember trying to record the overseas F1 races at like 0200. I regularly ended up with Open University.
I’ve been watching this line for over a year, definitely wasn’t going to pay over retail. Glad I waited, I got the all grey version with the positive display screen. Absolutely love it! I have a 7.25in wrist and it fits me just fine. Wouldn’t be mad at a couple mm smaller, but it still works as is. Thanks for another great video!
The black/rose gold and the white dial from the smaller range would both look incredible in a third party royal oak metal case
I would only get one if its tough solar
The “re-designed” Casioak looks great! I would buy that immediately. Perhaps go one step farther and have a standard LCD display instead of an inverted one - for those of us who battle with poor eyesight.
Yes!!!
The best mod I've done on mine is there is a bloke in Indonesia that sells the Indices ring, in lume. This simple swap mod makes the watch 10X more practical. He had three colours to choose from at the time. I went with the Green the matches the hands. In daylight they look closest to the CASIO white version.
How do we get in touch with him
@@soulsocket7 had to look that up here's his vid ruclips.net/video/bElTIJEBD0U/видео.html
I recently purchased a Hidden Coast version in orange and green and I'm delighted. Between this and my iWatch series 3 w/cellular, I'm set.
Watch manufacturers and retailers all seem stuck in the 1950s when it comes to marketing. Regards gender they should just stick to wrist size and be done with it. I bet a lot more women would buy a lot more watches if the “Ladies” sections were suddenly consigned to history.
I'd wear the white mini CasiOak, or the black with the rose gold indices. I think those are pretty good-looking.
The biggest issue I have with G-SHOCK these days, is the negative dial. Almost entirely unreadable at a glance.
I have to agree, however I’ve had a few with negative displays and it seems inconsistent. My GA-100 I have right now is awesomely easy to read. My previous one was almost like the entire screen was black. Even doing a battery swap offered zero improvement.
I'm wearing the Mini Casioak black with the bronze indices and since I have a skinny man wrist it wears perfectly on my arm. Do not care if it was marketed towards 'ladies'
I agree with you Jody on the smaller "Casi Oaks". I think Casio should have made them "Unisex" and had more neutral colorways that would have attracted females and males alike. Once they got gender tagged, and put some "bling" on, it is hard to take it back unless you open the case and paint the indices flat black. Anyway, the re-design looks good, it reminds me of a Breitling Ana-Digi from the '80s. Keep up the great work!
I used to loathe the Casi-Oak...I’m still not sold on it, but I might be convinced if/when they incorporate Solar.
I also think it looks decidedly more compact than a similar sized G-9000 thanks to its slimmer height and overall shape.
Re: Glynn's design: I dont particularly like when Ani-digitals just use a bisected dial (Think tissot T-touch) but I do love the idea of a more usable led, and getting rid of the day dial. I'd like to see a more Omega x-33 approach to the casioak. Keep the indicies, and branding, but make as much of that dial useful. While we're at it, give me a "stealth mode" where the negative LED turns off, and just looks like a full analog.
I'm a little late to the party, but I needed a watch to wear outside a parka up north inside the Arctic Circle, and I ended up picking a GA-2100. And then modded it! Started with the same black and white one you have, but got new hands that all fully white with a little better lume, added a lumed index ring in place of the factor one that is unlumed for whatever reason, and swapped the module for one from a gray GA-2110 so I wouldn't have that awful reverse LCD. I'm closing in on 50 this year, I can't read those little gray number on a black background! Also took off the resin strap and added some adapters to allow some long 22mm nylon straps. Worked perfect up there in the cold, and I always knew what time it was.
I just got mine two days ago. I've got a tiny hand to be honest, and the 43ml fits me properly. Well the white color will get some visible dust over time, so I'd like the Baby G in Black/Matt black.
I balked on buying the Casioak when they came out due to the spec size. I just bought the tough solar Casioak a couple of months ago and it’s been on my wrist 95% of the time. I absolutely love this watch. Barely larger than my 5410 square and I don’t even notice it on my 6-5/8” wrist. If you like the looks of this watch, don’t let the size deter you. Get it and you won’t regret it!
I like the toughness and vibrant colour of GA 2100. I got the red on this week. And I am very happy with it. Looking forward to buy more casio watches to add to my watchlist.
Nice watch (I love Casios). My personal favorite Casio is the Casio G-Shock GA800-1ACR. It is battery powered, but has no crown (crown can't get jammed or broken off). It has both hands and digital and I prefer it over my more expensive g-shock ($100 vs $200) because it is smaller, more comfortable, and is easier to see in the dark.
They should have called them Unisex and offered the same colors as the bigger version along with the new colors. Considering how many colors the original came out with I'm sure they'll add more in the future, but still it's annoying. I'd buy one of they made the color version you have on now in the smaller size for sure.
As a Guy with the slimest wrists possible I'd buy the blue Lady Casioak. I honestly don't mind the rose-gold-ish hands and hourmarkers. Yes, they could be more masculine if they were black e.g., but mainly I'm just happy Casio released some Casioaks that potentially could somehow fit me.
Im a watch guy and was browsing Casioak, wasn’t happy about the size. And BOOM, I see sale at Macy’s, where you can buy G-Shock gam s2100 with 25% discount. I thought, well if I wouldn’t like it on me, I will just return it. Once I put it on, fell in love with it, and next day looksd in to buy one more in white. But there are nowhere to find anymore. Only resales for 200-300$. It doesn’t look feminine at all. Awesome watch.
Love my blacked out CasiOak. About the only thing I would have liked Casio to do with it would be to black out the buckle on the strap as well.
That’s what I found with Casio. I bought one, hated it. I felt like I should play with some action figure toys when I wore it. Sold it because I honestly felt like a child. A year later, I bought a regular Casio, the A158W. Love it so much. Then bought another G-Shock. Same model as before but a different colour. Not only has it made me completely fall in love with the stupidly large, light weight monster. But I think the first one I had was maybe faulty. The negative screen was poor. The negative screen on this one is very legible. The blue hands on the old one sucked to glance at. Blue was too dark against the black body and dial face. The white on my new one is easy to read. And now I just love it.
Yep. I’ve gone from being a hater to being obsessed by them and want more!!!!
I'm a bloke with 6-inch wrists, so the smaller watch suits me well. I don't mind it being called a lady's watch, honestly.
I’m holding our for the smaller “standard” black and white version. Literally the perfect watch for me.
I have the AWG M - 100 a with a blue aluminium bezel. It has the multi band and tough solar as well. Very legible and has 3 small round subdials.
You know your G will survive but your body won’t 😂😂😂😂😂
That redesigned watch looked exactly how the 2100 should have been made. Very nice, thank you
That watch he designed is absolutely amazing, I'm getting into automatic's but I'd buy that in a heartbeat
Totally agree. I went to change mine to BST only to find it was already set to DST but refused to change. It's back in the box, I will wait 6 months 😂
I'm getting the black/rose gold mini version for myself cuz I'm a sucker for the colour combo and don't mind a bit of bling on a G, I've had enough plain black G's for a lifetime so something a lil different is nice. I wouldn't be surprised if they offer more "unisex" colour combos for it in the future if the small version proves to be it's own hit, especially if enough people call for it
I'm a guy and getting the 'mini' black/rosegold for Christmas 2021 and I can't wait. Looks awesome.
With a 6 and a quarter inch wrist the smaller version is tempting. Black is only one I would consider but would be better with white indeces.
I agree, the digital display on the Casioak designed by Glynn are more usable...when the hands are in the 10 past 10 position. Mark from Long Island Watch does it right by the way, he just released a lot of colourways of his 38 mm SKX013 homage, some of which are pink or purple without expressly referring to them ladies' or gentlemen's watches.
Love Glenn's render. A Casioak with a useful display, come Casio make it happen!
Glad they made it big. There are tons of smaller g shocks for people with smaller wrists.
This is my first g-shock, just ordered it and I’m so excited
I have enjoyed the blue and grey for 4 or 5 months. Turned out to be the biggest surprise. Light weight, low profile, and interesting dial. Very cool.
Jody. What I would want on that display is a huge LCD day of the week and that I could swap that out from a digital time. When you retired you have no idea what day of the week it is and that stupid little retrograde dial does help! So a real day date display that is customisable.
There was also a Grey version which had a positive display and that was an improvement but now is discontinued. I was waiting for the smaller version but that colours in hands and index are not of my taste. Guess at the end I will be getting the one seen on the video .
I don't own this G-shock, it just didn't do it for me, but if your model ever comes to life I would definitely buy one. 🤞🏽🤞🏽 that casio sees this video.
Mine has the purple case and light blue strap. Love it. Wear it for cycling over a sleeve or when playing tennis. Never use any of the bog standard digital features just want to know the time at a glance. Light and handsome. Weird how it’s been admired by so many people when it cost bugger all.
I got one for my birthday before I knew about the hype. I love it to this day.
I got this Casio because it is smaller than most G-Shock models out there and fits my small writst perfectly, thus I don't think it is too big, but perfectly understand they made separate models, smaller ones for girls. However they could do more manly colorways as you pointed out.
Hi Jody, the perfect ana digi G Shock already exists. The GA-800. Perfect legibility with the big white hands. Digital display is incredibly clear too. The 2 white LEDs make it great for night time use.
Perhaps not quite perfect. If only it was slightly smaller and solar........
Have a look at one.
The 800 is not too small for me, and I don't want "solar".
So yes, it is the perfect G as far as I'm concerned.
Love the reimagined design. That would be a day one for me.
Lumed indices for sure then solar, machined case back, and a ti model.
Still a great watch. Way more likable than i thought before buying it.
And here my main thing is I want this model to wear even bigger.
The most wholesome watch RUclipsr ever
😍 Thanks mate!!
I purchased a blue and purple one Japan only on eBay for $175usd, loving it
Hello, luckily now there exists a smaller version availble in a black case huosing a White dial However the BIGGEST draw back of Casio watches is the Negative Display housing the Minutes & Seconds making non visible unless you are in a location having strong sunlight
Love everything about my stealth version, which I’m wearing while I watch
I own two stealth, couldn't agree more... I explain my thoughts on my channel.
Agreed. I love it. Not always readable, but I will accept that because I like it so much.
@@randomhandle yes, it has a certain je ne sais quois, high comfort factor plus it's a rare beast...
I use to wear a g-shock while I'm on duty, doing my patrol, climbing walls, fighting criminals and more as a police officer here in Brazil. Sturdy, light and legible and the best, super affordable price.
I recently bought the jellyfish model. The transparent GA-2100 and it's amazing
I do like Glynn's redesign for sure! Casio take note! I was always turned off by the G-Shock branding and the overly large watch dimensions but your reviews are warming me up to it!
Jody there was once a time when I wouldn’t even consider wearing a digital watch, but thanks to you I now have three.
Casio Tough Solar, Casio “Royale” and a G-Shock Rangeman.
Nice! They are so damned sensible, and so damned cheap!
I need the shirt explained
I'm only watching this about a year late, but glad this was here to watch. Nevermind I ordered one from Amazon 3 months ago, and it's only arriving soon...
I only own one G Shock and it is a beast the GAW-100G, tough solar , multiband remote control, 200m wr, analogue style , negative digital sundials ,back-light, world time ,alarm, stop watch and timer ....all for 100 quid or there abouts 80ish at cheapest...value that will last forever .
I love the camo casio oak and red one both are s bit of me but mine has literally everything 🥰🥰🥰 I'm sure il add them to my 30 plus watches at some point 😂😂 ..just one more watch..... ⌚
I’m pretty sure this smaller line will get plenty of new colors in the future. I’d could already go for the black and rose gold with my 17cm wrist. Especially after aliexpress mod shops get rose gold metal mods out.
Jody, I hadn't found a G-Shock that I wanted to actually purchase until I saw the "mini" (not all that mini) on Jenni Elle's channel.
I don't like the black resin case look - so, went with the white - but definitely would have like to have seen a few options not intended to appeal to women only. Looking forward to seeing it soon. Not sure if I will wear it a bunch - but certainly nice to have a really robust beater that you don't have to worry about having on your wrist in any situation.
BTW - also not a fan of anything other than sapphire (or acrylic) crystals. But if the mineral gets scratched - I think I can replace with sapphire. Not sure - as I am not familiar with the G-Shock construction , but in any event, not the end of the world either way.
A small wristed dude here, already ordered the white version, and may be get pink (or light pink) one as well depending on the hue irl.
Honestly idgf what the company label it as, as long as I'm happy with the watch and size of it, I would buy it
just bought it and love that on my 6.5 inch wrist.
Just ordered the same one Jody got-all black except for the white hands and indices, because I agree with Jody when he says that the all-black and all-red versions seem extremely hard to read..It’s scheduled to get to me next month, and I’m eagerly waiting for its arrival.
Bang on J. Got one these my first G-Shock. I’m 69 not totally tech. Didn’t even understand the handbook either, took 1 hour trial, error and eventually U-tube to set it up. Was absolutely dreading Summertime change last week. It took me one hour trial, error and U-tube to move it on 1 hour.