@@chasingmypinnacle That's all you pay them? Are you out of your fucking mind? Make it at least $100 a month. Don't get me wrong. It's better than nothing. but you're paying them lees than $1 a day and they believe that they're doing well. If you're being serious, don't be a piece of wank and pay them more. I'd have no issue paying them a minimum of £100 a month. I'd pay more, but for me RS is useless and just a small pass time. If you owned a company, you'd absolutely fuck your employees over and hog all the money for yourself. Now if you have 10 people leveling accounts and you only make $1000 a month, then I can understand, obviously most of us aren't loaded. But jeez. $30 a month is slave labour. On a whole new level.
@@jonnywilson9117 I don’t want to enter this conversation, but I respect what you just said. As an American, my entire life is possible due to child/slave labor that gets me my food, child labor or poverty wages from all the outsourced stuff I buy. All this doesn’t cross my mind often because America is good at hiding the fact of our wealth coming from the misfortunes of others.
It’s funny because due to the language barrier, they sell to Venezuelan websites for cheap, then the company sells to English speaking countries for higher margins. It’s like GE flipping lol
I have been involved in gold farming and gold selling with WoW back in the day, I used to run bots all days and check on them while in class. This payed for my rent and other expenses every month. I made around 600-800 euro from selling the gold a month. Accounts did get banned from time to time, but I always had a batch of backup account that where already leveling up in the background
@Yacine Essadry Yes after you could buy gold from WoW itself with the tokens, it crashed hard. Detection system has had major updates too, its not really that easy to start botting from scratch. I'd say that RS is easier now a days
Ironically, the illicit black market jobs underneath Runescape actually pay better than being an employee of Jagex... No wonder they're willing to be corrupt.
@@luisvilca4467 Where there is money be it virtual or real there is corruption. Its funny how deep this goes tho. People are simply doing this as jobs. Money makes the world go around I guess.
Your very mistaken my friend, 90% of the players you see walkin around with big level items rwt. Also most of the rs youtubers also buy gold. The more you know.
There's no need to buy gold in 2018, because you can make 3-4m an hour doing Zulrah, Vorkath, Raids, or even 10m per hour doing Theatre of Blood. RuneScape's economic system wasn't designed around constant need for consumables / degradables, so the threshold of sustainable income is much higher, especially when the supply market is always being deflated by bots. The only player-gold sink activity there is would be gambling (PvP, or Duel Arena), both of which are completely rigged so Jagex can actually make money by secretly selling you gold. Otherwise, it is far too easy to make money on this game and amass a huge collection of items, never requiring you to buy any gold.
Dino Spumoni I mean think about how long it takes to farm 50m for the average player, that's like half a day of minimum wage, a lot of players find just spending the 40 dollars for 50m a lot more appealing than spending hours and hours farming the same amount, you save tons of time and in turn can do other shit opposed to farming all the time. Tons of people buy gold that is just the reality of it.
six months ago i was a goldfarmer, all my incomes was by selling osrs gold, a shitty income but better than work in a regular job, i dont even like that kind of games, im a punk skateboarder and a system engineer, the necessity for money was the only reason i start to play, i really hated the game but later i started to like it, all my close friends was making money of it so i give it a chance. i used to play like 12 hours every day. im from venezuela, but right now i dont live there anymore so i just play for fun right now.
@@ohFitZz i cant afford herblore to do raids, all the gold i earn was for sale, i only invest in a shitty barrows armour and a bludgeon, because i used to kill demonic gorillas. i was like a shark, if i stop i Couldn’t eat, venezuela is really fucked up dude. by the way i never know of someone there doing raids because the accounts are basically disposable, the last days i was there, once you sell the gold your account was banned the other day. i know even friends that 10 minutes after the get a new account in members they get banned. all the jagex eyes are in venezuelans. i never tough that i was make money to eat by playing a "nerd kid game" with shitty graphics, but im really grateful that i have money to eat and sometimes buy a bottle of vodka and cigarettes and a year of little savings of money i can buy a plane ticket to leave venezuela.
the existance of those sites are the reasons why there are botters, and the community hates those, which means less players. (much less profit than if you had some site give you 10k or something a month)
Gold sites are owned by Jagex lmao. You don't get banned for selling gold if you sell to the mainstream sites that intentionally have really shitty buy prices, because you sell directly to Jagex supporting their RWT regime. Otherwise, if you are directly a seller and distributor of gold soliciting your own services then you will be shut down by Jagex.
This is kind of brilliant in a way. This guy gets the benefits of essentially owning a smuggling operation but without doing anything illegal. He's obviously breaking his user agreement but the worst that can happen to him would be to get banned from the game, which doesn't really compare to prison time. At most he'll have to start again from scratch, which would be tedious and would cut into his bottom line but if he's been sensible with his money and paid his taxes it's not unreasonable to think that he'd have other assets to fall back on.
I met a venezuelan player today when i was skilling hunter,he said he has to do alot of different things irl and on web to eat,he was a nice guy. he is in a job that doesn't even pay sometimes.
This brings back a lot of memories, much nostalgia. I did this as a kid just to make a few bucks here and there but never thought about perusing it as a life-long thing. Maybe I should do it again seeing as there is a big supply/demand. Crumb, if you need more info/interviewee's I have a few old school stories. All Old School RS mostly but some Rs3 as well
I ran Karambwan bots when OSRS first released. Karambwan at the time it wasn't a well known money maker so ban rates were ridiculously low. I had 2-3 accounts collecting, one cooking and one selling (before GE), I was only in high school and making sometimes close to $1600 a month. Now I work a 40hr/week job and after taxes make not much more than double that, sometimes I wish i had stayed in the gold farming business. Gold prices back then were also like 1.50/Mil.
Loving the content man. You do some kick ass interviews, that keep me coming back. Along with the other videos you have done. Keep up the great work man!
I think he's in the top 0.0001% of runescape gold sellers, it's a full time job for sure at his level, and there's no job security/ transferable skills and a high risk of losing profit with scams or detection by Jagex. Also, I have to think that at that profit level, surely the IRS must be curious to see how all this profit is being earned (unless he declares his profit from every source). I would rather go on to garner more job skills/ education to secure a better future than a temporary gig that may or may not always pay so well.
Well I wouldnt generalise on that because you dont know the details how he does it, on 3rd world countries you can get away with these stuff, you just have to stay under the radar especially if you are not making huge amount of money in a month for example 10k or more. Plus since crypto came in most smart gold sellers and farmers use crypto.
Irs shouldn’t get involved. Jagex is prolly running some of these sites.. doubles their profit.. if they ban a couple bots it makes them look good and helps the economy. Win win all around. 40-50% of pple have rwt. I never have and never will. Idk why I replied this long but it just kept going so ya
BATTLE ROYALE FORTNITE STREAMERS HIGHLIGHTS you can lol , small scale gold farming with just you and a buddy running 4 accounts each can make like 500$ a week
@@jenningsgardner2205 The average wage in venezuela is like 8 dollars a month. His and your definition of ''working salary'' are probably slightly different lol
Not realistically. You cannot make 10m a day on a level 1 account, unless it's a grand exchange merching bot on a personal bot engine / bot script. Otherwise any merching script on some shit public bot platform would get you instantly banned in 1 day and you'd lose the entire cash stack.
holy shit, that bit at the end... always makes ya think...a game as simple as RS generating people more money than whole careers do in terms of cash each year is insane. i can see why some people do this sort of stuff (but it's probably short-term for them tbh, when looking at the big picture, I don't see places like RS staying around 30+ years haha)
OSRS Vera If this is true, he does not need to do for 30 years. If he does for atleast 5 years he will make more money than we would ever do in our lives.
If the people you're referring to are working common office jobs then yeah sure, but 8k a month X 12 = 96k salary/year is not uncommon for people in engineering and STEM related fields, healthcare, law, accounting, etc. In all honesty RWTing is just another form of entrepreneurship, which obviously if you are a successful entrepreneur you will make a lot of money. Your logic is the same as saying why not invest all of my time into making youtube videos for a living. Maybe I'll become the next Pewdiepie and make millions of dollars (sarcasm). First of all, you need to have strong connections to get into this underground market selling virtual gold especially if you want to make big profits. Secondly, it's a lot of time investment so unless you have a lot of free time and plan on doing this for a living it's not really worth it because like I said already 96k year salary is not uncommon for people in the aforementioned jobs. Notice in the video the guy said he was only doing this during the summer because he had free time. It would be very difficult to try and juggle a full load of college courses while doing this RWT gig and even then you wouldn't be making 8k a month because obviously you have less time to commit to your job. So your suggestion to do this for 5 years and quit isn't really a good idea because like I said it's not a lot of money in the long term. A lot of my engineering buddies with summer internships are making 4k a month and they haven't even graduated yet. And why would you neglect pursuing a real job that can make you even more money compared to a RWT gig that you can't even put on your resume? This RWT gig is nothing more than a gig. It's good for some spare cash as a part time job, but not worth it in the long term when you could have invested your time elsewhere. Unless you plan on being an entrepreneur, which not everyone aspires to be, then this isn't worth it. And don't even get me started on all the bullshit you have to take into consideration like IRS knocking down on your door, job security (what will happen when Runescape dies out), what if Jagex decided to pursue a lawsuit? So many things you have to consider and let me just say this if you take nothing else from my long ass comment. Usually karma comes back to bite you in the ass when you are involved in immoral things such as the underground/black market.
But then karma can't get you if you're dead, right? ;D Joking aside. I agree with your statement. It might be one of those random side job you pick up for fun to earn some cash, but it is not a long term career.
AkiraKeiKyo Exactly man. What I'm more interested in knowing though is that one guy really making 250k-300k a month? Not the guy being interviewed in this video. The other guy who I'm assuming is the CEO of these businesses or something? Now, that would be a different story altogether because even if it's a 1 year side gig that would be 3mil-3.6mil earned in that one year alone, which is a fucking substantial amount of money.
Wish Runescape or someone would come out with a game where the in game gold is 1-1 matched with a Crypto currency in real life. You can pay in crypto or real$/credit card for membership, and everything you do in game to make gold can be withdrawn at in game bank to your Crypto wallet. They would have to convert a certain % of membership income to keep up money running in game and people should all have a fun game where playing actually can make them money, imagine each iron ore, each yew log's in game value worth same in real life, 142gp to 142 dogecoins, bytecoins, bitcoins, whatever, then use the bitcoins for more membership or convert it to and fiat $ or what ever you want to do with it. sorry if this has bin done, i havnt learned about it yet for a game like world of warcraft or runescape
Haha in my area pay caps out at around 5k a month. House is dirt cheap though. Still good, but not as much
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Crumb I guess if you live in a small town or something like this. But even in my country (almost the poorest eastern european country) its among the highest paying jobs. Gl with it tho!
Except buying a bond is no where near as cheap as just buying gold. Buying bonds is about $2 per mil whereas buying gold can be as cheap as 75 cents to the dollar.
lots of people just dont care about getting banned much i know people who buy an account + buy a chunk of gold and just chill playing for fun and usually bot all me menial tasks as well on top of that. its not the end of the world for them to get banned if they even do. some dont even though they break so many rules so severely.
really though it's been going on for YEARS mate. Sparc mac has been RWTing since 2011 how do you think he bought his 2015 mustang boss?? from staking... the only reason why he gets to RWT is because he literally has rs membership paid off for YEARS AND YEARS.
@@ricegum4385 back in 2008, stopped and got a job, look now and if I played my cards right I could be even better off. But that's what makes life great, it's a challenge and you choose your destiny
I am a Venezuelan. Actually I have never played the game, but I am so interested in it that I've watched a LOT of Runescape videos. I mean, the community and Runescape.-related cointent is hella interesting. Anyways, b y now you all should have seen what happens when you justtake the Venezuelan farmers away of the equation, right? It's just crazy! ANyways, greetings from Venezuela. I also don't goldfarm because I earn $ as a translator (just in case :))
I can see why people farm gold in RuneScape. I come from a relatively privileged background and live where the cost of living is higher (Canada), so using my time to farm/trade gold would be a waste when I can just develop my career. If you're not even making a dollar a day, then gold farming is a viable strategy.
He's like the top of the top in the RuneScape business, I'm one of his competitors and it's a hell of a lot of work to get to that 2k a week, and 2k a week isn't even a lot if you find a real job.
My brother delivers alcohol in NYC and makes 2k a week. Didn't need college or anything, now he has full benefits and makes over 100k/yr. He didn't need to spend 5 years building a business to make 100k/yr.
It’s crazy how back in the day there was such a flaw with large transaction volume via PayPal and crypto was the perfect creation for this as you can’t really charge back sucks to see it wasn’t that adopted in the time of this video
@@YEET-yh6qc They can't compete, because they're dealing with profit margins, trying to make money, periodic small losses, directly tied to trading gold. Jagex isn't, their revenue all revolves around subscriptions. Thus, they would probably hurt their subscription revenue by dropping the value of gold low enough, but so would they by stopping botters, so that's a bit of a moot point. Point is, Jagex can lower the price lower than the sites can, and keep it there, and still stay in business, though Jagex has more to lose.
5:18 i think this is interesting as far as the morality of it goes. Compared to what we get paid in a 9-5 job its nothing, but on the other hand these people and their families might be staving without the source of income from farming gold.
My question is how does he report his earnings? I'm assuming he uses something like PayPal which if you make a certain amount, you have to report it or the IRS comes after you.
One thing that stuck out to me was your belief you'd be stuck at a 96k yearly income for the entirety of your career as a CS Major. You need to aim higher with your goals, your worth is what you make it at the end of the day. If you're stuck at that price cap, you need to definitely relocate, and re-asses.
I don't understand what you're laughing about. Don't you literally supply half the gold to these gold sellers with the profits you make from your gambling site?
There are still countries where people earn under $1 per hour. So yeah, farming a few million gold per hour is more profitable for them and probably better for their health than working in a mine.
As appealing as the money is for something like this, people tend to forget it's only a short term solution. Sure you make a lot of money in a month but you have no benefits, no insurance, and it's not exactly something a bank will take as a career on a loan. While Runescape has been one of the most successful MMOs ever, it won't last forever. It's the same with the Twitch streamers riding whatever hype train is going on. At some point it won't be viable income anymore. Sure the train might have lasted 10 years but what do you do when you're 30 with no real viable career skills that society looks for and you're no longer making money? You would be surprised how fast you burn cash when you have no income. Let's not forget that this is also a violation of Jagex's terms of service. While unlikely they do have the right to take you to court. I recall Jagex shutting down a botting website and they were forced to give out emails to Jagex, who then in-turn would go after the largest offenders they could find. So yes going to school or practicing a trade skill is still an important thing to do. These kinds of internet media trends are only great as a side gig in your free time.
A bank WILL take it as a career on a loan as long as you claim taxes on it, people own small businesses and there is no way to show how much they make because they don’t get pay stubs. My father has to show loaners his taxes from last year for his A/C business since all profits go to him. The part about job skills is true tho
Lmao nobody elects to pay an extra 50$ per month for job benefits. You're speaking to an audience of mostly 20-year old men, not 60-year olds with prostate cancer and hemorrhoids looking to retire in a few years.
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Yo, 1:08 that was my clan chat. was this footage of you or of the gold seller?
Also isn't it weird that the black market websites have better customer support than jagex?
Jagex has no costumer support just automated answers from a bot
Exactly.
Assuming jagex even has cs
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Of course this isn't weird. Costs are higher than profits in CS. Are you new to planet earth?
I remember spending 15 hours a day picking flax just to sell it all for 500k
I lost my first main botting those flax into bowstrings :p
Go to statistically challenged for money making methods
@@MmeHyraelle good
Dude you should of invested all that time into mining that way u make 900k an hour
@@MmeHyraelle good
That guy is a beast. He saw an opportunity and grabbed it with both hands. I respect the hustle
stfu it ruins the game
Venezuela has such high inflation that their money is worthless. as such working 9-5 on runescape is a better job than actual jobs
and holding rs cash is safer than holding their own currency :p
@@chasingmypinnacle That's all you pay them? Are you out of your fucking mind? Make it at least $100 a month. Don't get me wrong. It's better than nothing. but you're paying them lees than $1 a day and they believe that they're doing well. If you're being serious, don't be a piece of wank and pay them more. I'd have no issue paying them a minimum of £100 a month. I'd pay more, but for me RS is useless and just a small pass time. If you owned a company, you'd absolutely fuck your employees over and hog all the money for yourself. Now if you have 10 people leveling accounts and you only make $1000 a month, then I can understand, obviously most of us aren't loaded. But jeez. $30 a month is slave labour. On a whole new level.
@@chasingmypinnacle How do you hire them?
@@jonnywilson9117 I don’t want to enter this conversation, but I respect what you just said. As an American, my entire life is possible due to child/slave labor that gets me my food, child labor or poverty wages from all the outsourced stuff I buy. All this doesn’t cross my mind often because America is good at hiding the fact of our wealth coming from the misfortunes of others.
@@jonnywilson9117 Bruh you can make ~$5 usd an hour selling gold with an efficient grinding method, they're scamming themselves
this is literally free advertisement for gold sellers lol
do a follow up vid on how much their sale increase after a vid like this.
@@Alcidedable Um, what? It doesnt change anything, the names are never mentioned.
"Free"
It’s funny because due to the language barrier, they sell to Venezuelan websites for cheap, then the company sells to English speaking countries for higher margins. It’s like GE flipping lol
Hey, I'm the one that drew his character that's in the thumbnail, haha.
I have been involved in gold farming and gold selling with WoW back in the day, I used to run bots all days and check on them while in class.
This payed for my rent and other expenses every month. I made around 600-800 euro from selling the gold a month.
Accounts did get banned from time to time, but I always had a batch of backup account that where already leveling up in the background
@Yacine Essadry Yes after you could buy gold from WoW itself with the tokens, it crashed hard. Detection system has had major updates too, its not really that easy to start botting from scratch. I'd say that RS is easier now a days
13 billion shows 13m
Crap, I messed that one up!
Smoked trees?
so which 1 is it million or billion ?
When I saw 13m sold for 2k for the week I was thinking I needed a job application lol xD
Next video. How much a week does selling GF make?
A lot trust me. At least back in 07 08 scape...
50-80k for 30 mins to an hour of following some one, numbers are based on 07 though so adjust for inflation accordingly.
Runescape create jobs lol
German politcians would like this
Ironically, the illicit black market jobs underneath Runescape actually pay better than being an employee of Jagex...
No wonder they're willing to be corrupt.
Any mmorpg with a stable population and open trading create these third party sellers
@@luisvilca4467 Where there is money be it virtual or real there is corruption. Its funny how deep this goes tho. People are simply doing this as jobs. Money makes the world go around I guess.
I have a really hard time believing half the player base buys black market gold every month.
Your very mistaken my friend, 90% of the players you see walkin around with big level items rwt. Also most of the rs youtubers also buy gold. The more you know.
There's no need to buy gold in 2018, because you can make 3-4m an hour doing Zulrah, Vorkath, Raids, or even 10m per hour doing Theatre of Blood. RuneScape's economic system wasn't designed around constant need for consumables / degradables, so the threshold of sustainable income is much higher, especially when the supply market is always being deflated by bots. The only player-gold sink activity there is would be gambling (PvP, or Duel Arena), both of which are completely rigged so Jagex can actually make money by secretly selling you gold. Otherwise, it is far too easy to make money on this game and amass a huge collection of items, never requiring you to buy any gold.
Dino Spumoni I mean think about how long it takes to farm 50m for the average player, that's like half a day of minimum wage, a lot of players find just spending the 40 dollars for 50m a lot more appealing than spending hours and hours farming the same amount, you save tons of time and in turn can do other shit opposed to farming all the time. Tons of people buy gold that is just the reality of it.
six months ago i was a goldfarmer, all my incomes was by selling osrs gold, a shitty income but better than work in a regular job, i dont even like that kind of games, im a punk skateboarder and a system engineer, the necessity for money was the only reason i start to play, i really hated the game but later i started to like it, all my close friends was making money of it so i give it a chance. i used to play like 12 hours every day. im from venezuela, but right now i dont live there anymore so i just play for fun right now.
@@ohFitZz i cant afford herblore to do raids, all the gold i earn was for sale, i only invest in a shitty barrows armour and a bludgeon, because i used to kill demonic gorillas. i was like a shark, if i stop i Couldn’t eat, venezuela is really fucked up dude. by the way i never know of someone there doing raids because the accounts are basically disposable, the last days i was there, once you sell the gold your account was banned the other day. i know even friends that 10 minutes after the get a new account in members they get banned. all the jagex eyes are in venezuelans. i never tough that i was make money to eat by playing a "nerd kid game" with shitty graphics, but im really grateful that i have money to eat and sometimes buy a bottle of vodka and cigarettes and a year of little savings of money i can buy a plane ticket to leave venezuela.
Mod MMG sounded like it was a state of emergency :P
Gold sites pay jagex money to stay open. #Conspiracy
I like your thinking
the existance of those sites are the reasons why there are botters, and the community hates those, which means less players. (much less profit than if you had some site give you 10k or something a month)
"Look into It"
Gold sites are owned by Jagex lmao. You don't get banned for selling gold if you sell to the mainstream sites that intentionally have really shitty buy prices, because you sell directly to Jagex supporting their RWT regime. Otherwise, if you are directly a seller and distributor of gold soliciting your own services then you will be shut down by Jagex.
Ryan and why would jagex buy gold instead of generating max cash stacks? lul
This is kind of brilliant in a way.
This guy gets the benefits of essentially owning a smuggling operation but without doing anything illegal.
He's obviously breaking his user agreement but the worst that can happen to him would be to get banned from the game, which doesn't really compare to prison time.
At most he'll have to start again from scratch, which would be tedious and would cut into his bottom line but if he's been sensible with his money and paid his taxes it's not unreasonable to think that he'd have other assets to fall back on.
ya the only games to even fine people real money was pubg and fortnite
"Buy a bond from the Runescape website, it's practically the same price" LOL $11 for a bond vs. $3.3
This is probably gonna be hard but it would be amazing to learn more about the clanning scene, doxxing, ddosing etc.
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Ro0b0 it's pretty simple it all honesty
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I met a venezuelan player today when i was skilling hunter,he said he has to do alot of different things irl and on web to eat,he was a nice guy.
he is in a job that doesn't even pay sometimes.
that's why doctors are waiters in another country cause they pay better than their country
or wash disher. there many who clean windows at gas stations, i met one of them
This brings back a lot of memories, much nostalgia. I did this as a kid just to make a few bucks here and there but never thought about perusing it as a life-long thing. Maybe I should do it again seeing as there is a big supply/demand. Crumb, if you need more info/interviewee's I have a few old school stories. All Old School RS mostly but some Rs3 as well
Could you help me, please?
I wanna start a full-time job to earn from Runescape.
@@englishroom8176 If I was able to self teach myself everything with the internet and its capabilities back in the 90s, I'm sure you can do it today.
I respect every entrepeneur.
I ran Karambwan bots when OSRS first released. Karambwan at the time it wasn't a well known money maker so ban rates were ridiculously low. I had 2-3 accounts collecting, one cooking and one selling (before GE), I was only in high school and making sometimes close to $1600 a month. Now I work a 40hr/week job and after taxes make not much more than double that, sometimes I wish i had stayed in the gold farming business. Gold prices back then were also like 1.50/Mil.
Why you dont start it again
Loving the content man. You do some kick ass interviews, that keep me coming back. Along with the other videos you have done. Keep up the great work man!
I think he's in the top 0.0001% of runescape gold sellers, it's a full time job for sure at his level, and there's no job security/ transferable skills and a high risk of losing profit with scams or detection by Jagex. Also, I have to think that at that profit level, surely the IRS must be curious to see how all this profit is being earned (unless he declares his profit from every source). I would rather go on to garner more job skills/ education to secure a better future than a temporary gig that may or may not always pay so well.
Very true
Well I wouldnt generalise on that because you dont know the details how he does it, on 3rd world countries you can get away with these stuff, you just have to stay under the radar especially if you are not making huge amount of money in a month for example 10k or more. Plus since crypto came in most smart gold sellers and farmers use crypto.
Irs shouldn’t get involved. Jagex is prolly running some of these sites.. doubles their profit.. if they ban a couple bots it makes them look good and helps the economy. Win win all around. 40-50% of pple have rwt. I never have and never will. Idk why I replied this long but it just kept going so ya
True and even then I highly doubt the profit he reaches is 2K$, week in week out.
BATTLE ROYALE FORTNITE STREAMERS HIGHLIGHTS you can lol , small scale gold farming with just you and a buddy running 4 accounts each can make like 500$ a week
I really enjoy these videos. You always see all sorts of people in runescape, but watching your videos takes it to the underground scene.
Glad you like them! Plenty more on the way
Im venezuelan and i sell gold for living and its better than working salary
really? you figure out some secret for making gold that fast?
what site do u use, can u help?
@@brianpimentel2084 boglagold
@@jenningsgardner2205 The average wage in venezuela is like 8 dollars a month. His and your definition of ''working salary'' are probably slightly different lol
ProudNL99 oh yeah lol woops
It's an inside job I bet too, even some mods sell gold id be willing to wager.
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doubt it i can make 10m+/day botting on 1 decent level account
Not realistically. You cannot make 10m a day on a level 1 account, unless it's a grand exchange merching bot on a personal bot engine / bot script. Otherwise any merching script on some shit public bot platform would get you instantly banned in 1 day and you'd lose the entire cash stack.
haah you were right
@@RyanKelly7373 you underestimate how many trees a level 1 can cut
holy shit, that bit at the end... always makes ya think...a game as simple as RS generating people more money than whole careers do in terms of cash each year is insane. i can see why some people do this sort of stuff (but it's probably short-term for them tbh, when looking at the big picture, I don't see places like RS staying around 30+ years haha)
Yeah very true! With the release of EOC I'm sure a lot of these websites took a huge hit. The RUclipsrs at the time like SilentC0re sure did.
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If this is true, he does not need to do for 30 years. If he does for atleast 5 years he will make more money than we would ever do in our lives.
If the people you're referring to are working common office jobs then yeah sure, but 8k a month X 12 = 96k salary/year is not uncommon for people in engineering and STEM related fields, healthcare, law, accounting, etc. In all honesty RWTing is just another form of entrepreneurship, which obviously if you are a successful entrepreneur you will make a lot of money. Your logic is the same as saying why not invest all of my time into making youtube videos for a living. Maybe I'll become the next Pewdiepie and make millions of dollars (sarcasm). First of all, you need to have strong connections to get into this underground market selling virtual gold especially if you want to make big profits. Secondly, it's a lot of time investment so unless you have a lot of free time and plan on doing this for a living it's not really worth it because like I said already 96k year salary is not uncommon for people in the aforementioned jobs. Notice in the video the guy said he was only doing this during the summer because he had free time. It would be very difficult to try and juggle a full load of college courses while doing this RWT gig and even then you wouldn't be making 8k a month because obviously you have less time to commit to your job.
So your suggestion to do this for 5 years and quit isn't really a good idea because like I said it's not a lot of money in the long term. A lot of my engineering buddies with summer internships are making 4k a month and they haven't even graduated yet. And why would you neglect pursuing a real job that can make you even more money compared to a RWT gig that you can't even put on your resume?
This RWT gig is nothing more than a gig. It's good for some spare cash as a part time job, but not worth it in the long term when you could have invested your time elsewhere. Unless you plan on being an entrepreneur, which not everyone aspires to be, then this isn't worth it. And don't even get me started on all the bullshit you have to take into consideration like IRS knocking down on your door, job security (what will happen when Runescape dies out), what if Jagex decided to pursue a lawsuit?
So many things you have to consider and let me just say this if you take nothing else from my long ass comment. Usually karma comes back to bite you in the ass when you are involved in immoral things such as the underground/black market.
But then karma can't get you if you're dead, right? ;D
Joking aside. I agree with your statement. It might be one of those random side job you pick up for fun to earn some cash, but it is not a long term career.
AkiraKeiKyo
Exactly man. What I'm more interested in knowing though is that one guy really making 250k-300k a month? Not the guy being interviewed in this video. The other guy who I'm assuming is the CEO of these businesses or something? Now, that would be a different story altogether because even if it's a 1 year side gig that would be 3mil-3.6mil earned in that one year alone, which is a fucking substantial amount of money.
since ive been playing since 02 you learn a lot. you make a lot of friends and fun fact JAGEX owns At least 2 gold farms
Wish Runescape or someone would come out with a game where the in game gold is 1-1 matched with a Crypto currency in real life. You can pay in crypto or real$/credit card for membership, and everything you do in game to make gold can be withdrawn at in game bank to your Crypto wallet. They would have to convert a certain % of membership income to keep up money running in game and people should all have a fun game where playing actually can make them money, imagine each iron ore, each yew log's in game value worth same in real life, 142gp to 142 dogecoins, bytecoins, bitcoins, whatever, then use the bitcoins for more membership or convert it to and fiat $ or what ever you want to do with it. sorry if this has bin done, i havnt learned about it yet for a game like world of warcraft or runescape
The idea is there the only problem is basically laziness and possibly an even more toxic game if that's even possible, but the idea is there, yeah.
I was dissapointed, i thought that it would be Sparc Marc 😂😂
40% buying/selling lets ban enough to not cause too much overflow but we gotta make money too.
I laughed so hard when you said you not gonna make good money with a computer science degree.
Haha in my area pay caps out at around 5k a month. House is dirt cheap though. Still good, but not as much
Crumb I guess if you live in a small town or something like this. But even in my country (almost the poorest eastern european country) its among the highest paying jobs. Gl with it tho!
I'm about to get into the runscape business lol
Economics is great. Free market. Supply and demand. Those are rookie numbers! THE MCRIB IS BACK!
7:36 all talk lol
*FULL extend of the law*
Except buying a bond is no where near as cheap as just buying gold. Buying bonds is about $2 per mil whereas buying gold can be as cheap as 75 cents to the dollar.
Bonds are safer and don't get you banned.
Jeffrey Pell his point is still factual therefore valid.
lots of people just dont care about getting banned much
i know people who buy an account + buy a chunk of gold and just chill playing for fun and usually bot all me menial tasks as well on top of that.
its not the end of the world for them to get banned if they even do. some dont even though they break so many rules so severely.
8$ for rs3 bond 10$ for 40-50m
but it isn't becasue bonds qre 4.6m+ right now
Lets just keep promoting rwt
really though it's been going on for YEARS mate.
Sparc mac has been RWTing since 2011
how do you think he bought his 2015 mustang boss??
from staking... the only reason why he gets to RWT is because he literally has rs membership paid off for YEARS AND YEARS.
how does paying for a few years of rs membership allowed him to rwt tens of thousands?? lool
do you even know how closely his acc is monitored? sparc cannot trade any gold from his acc, he will get banned
he can ''trade'' it through staking or something
where is the proof that he account is monitored.
I was making hundreds a week in school selling rs gold
how
@@ricegum4385 back in 2008, stopped and got a job, look now and if I played my cards right I could be even better off. But that's what makes life great, it's a challenge and you choose your destiny
seems like he's got a nice thing figured out. money is money.
This would legit be the only reason I would learn to code.
It's funny how in basically every community coding is always super useful for something no matter what
What’s a good site to buy gold from
Asking for a friend
But seriously
Who wants to join up and make a gold selling site? Looks good tbh.
Kendal Ka lol
Lets do it
leggo
Me
i could be a live supporter no problem
When I saw that throwback clip and saw Zammy Cult that hit me in the feels. Been in there for years.
dikke bmw
oh kijk daar!
een john deere trekker
Valt wel mee
Lmao
SCUFFED_JAYZ dat is mien merk
hahaha xd
I am a Venezuelan. Actually I have never played the game, but I am so interested in it that I've watched a LOT of Runescape videos. I mean, the community and Runescape.-related cointent is hella interesting.
Anyways, b y now you all should have seen what happens when you justtake the Venezuelan farmers away of the equation, right? It's just crazy!
ANyways, greetings from Venezuela. I also don't goldfarm because I earn $ as a translator (just in case :))
$8k a month yet closed the site down, OMEGALUL
how so_
I can see why people farm gold in RuneScape. I come from a relatively privileged background and live where the cost of living is higher (Canada), so using my time to farm/trade gold would be a waste when I can just develop my career. If you're not even making a dollar a day, then gold farming is a viable strategy.
"Intermediary brokers"
Ain't that a huge wank term
The midman.
great vid love the style and quality u got , felt like Runescape Vice documentary haha
I would like to see an interview with the guys (past and present) from Near Reality, the rsps.
A lot of shit happened over the past couple of years.
He's like the top of the top in the RuneScape business, I'm one of his competitors and it's a hell of a lot of work to get to that 2k a week, and 2k a week isn't even a lot if you find a real job.
PCLearnerGuy 2k a week isnt alot you say????
My brother delivers alcohol in NYC and makes 2k a week. Didn't need college or anything, now he has full benefits and makes over 100k/yr. He didn't need to spend 5 years building a business to make 100k/yr.
But you know the minimum wage around most of the world isnt great and earning 2k a week is a difference to 300-400 a week in a daily job
The amount of work he put in could have been put in elsewhere.
why do u do it then
Honestly, purchasing gold on sythe literally saves so much irl time and is actually cheaper for one month of membership than paying Jagex themselves.
This game should probably be shut down in that case then.
@@damienthonk1506 literally every single game has this "issue." You can buy currency on every single game that has that system implemented.
It’s crazy how back in the day there was such a flaw with large transaction volume via PayPal and crypto was the perfect creation for this as you can’t really charge back sucks to see it wasn’t that adopted in the time of this video
Id like to see a vid with the top RSPS
Working on it (:
Crumb you’re gonna end up like ReturnOfWildy quick doing that dumb shit
ROW was scamming
RSPS make a tonn more money than this
OS-War Top RSPS are you under the age of 15 or just an idiot?
Buying a bond for gp is twice as expensive as buying gp from a gold website. I dont do either of them but I have looked around out of curiosity.
That's it , I'm moving to Venezuela.
It's funny you showed that clip at 5:00, thats exactly what i was thinking about when you said your previous statement.
(: It's a great video by MarkeeDragon
You pronounce 'Account Phishing' as 'Account Fishing' not 'Account Pishing' like you done at 9:03 KEK, you had me dying when you said account pishing
Fermonos1 hahahahahaha
Bonds aren't always the same price. Sometimes lower sometimes higher
If rs just sold gp for the price they sell it on internet all the sites will be down in an sec.
And then back up 2min after they've adjusted the price
@@YEET-yh6qc They can't compete, because they're dealing with profit margins, trying to make money, periodic small losses, directly tied to trading gold. Jagex isn't, their revenue all revolves around subscriptions. Thus, they would probably hurt their subscription revenue by dropping the value of gold low enough, but so would they by stopping botters, so that's a bit of a moot point. Point is, Jagex can lower the price lower than the sites can, and keep it there, and still stay in business, though Jagex has more to lose.
is it illegal to sell runescape gold for money?
No one ever answered insane well it’s not in America
5:18 i think this is interesting as far as the morality of it goes. Compared to what we get paid in a 9-5 job its nothing, but on the other hand these people and their families might be staving without the source of income from farming gold.
jagex need to fix the trade limit
5:20 lol
I wonder if jagex mods puts out 'undercover' gold buys, who trade and do business with gold sellers just to rat them out and ban them.
I think RuneScape is the one game that can be played solely by bots.
Really glad that you give the "boogy men" of RuneScape a voice, great vid as always!
Glad you liked the video man!
A bond is practically the same price? A bond is $7usd bonds on a good day r 4m ea 4m at .88 is bonds for $3.52👍
8k a month of real money, that's fuckin insane.
God I hate when someone uses '^.^'. Especially when you aren't a 13 year old girl with an edgy haircut in 2006.
^~^
@@mentally_till ~(*.*)~
^-^
Why would someone buy rsgp? 90% of this game are bots
Really interesting video Crumpet keep it up
Thanks man!
Wow, a RuneScape sweatshop, I can say I never heard of that until now
My question is how does he report his earnings?
I'm assuming he uses something like PayPal which if you make a certain amount, you have to report it or the IRS comes after you.
Pay sites are a very gray area for taxation. It all depends on how detailed the transactions become.
Deffinately irl money laundering
troy trick oh man did you pay the 50 M bitcorns for old school rs gold? Don’t fall for it It’s A Trap
One thing that stuck out to me was your belief you'd be stuck at a 96k yearly income for the entirety of your career as a CS Major. You need to aim higher with your goals, your worth is what you make it at the end of the day. If you're stuck at that price cap, you need to definitely relocate, and re-asses.
oh yeah, how much do you make a year
People in Venezuela prisons get taken care of better than people not in prisons. The cartels run their country not their government as much
yes. We have internet, wow and free food
I'm from Venezuela, and people in Jails that live much better than outside, are practically the criminal bosses not regular people.
the government is The Cartel
Top 10 idea: Most profitable non-boss monsters in OSRS.
Haven't seen it yet. Sounds like a good one to consider and go over.
wyverns and rune dragons i guess
Lol.
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I don't understand what you're laughing about. Don't you literally supply half the gold to these gold sellers with the profits you make from your gambling site?
fake comment chain dont search this shit up
TRUE.
smite ur site is shit kid smh
There are still countries where people earn under $1 per hour. So yeah, farming a few million gold per hour is more profitable for them and probably better for their health than working in a mine.
As appealing as the money is for something like this, people tend to forget it's only a short term solution. Sure you make a lot of money in a month but you have no benefits, no insurance, and it's not exactly something a bank will take as a career on a loan. While Runescape has been one of the most successful MMOs ever, it won't last forever. It's the same with the Twitch streamers riding whatever hype train is going on.
At some point it won't be viable income anymore. Sure the train might have lasted 10 years but what do you do when you're 30 with no real viable career skills that society looks for and you're no longer making money? You would be surprised how fast you burn cash when you have no income. Let's not forget that this is also a violation of Jagex's terms of service. While unlikely they do have the right to take you to court. I recall Jagex shutting down a botting website and they were forced to give out emails to Jagex, who then in-turn would go after the largest offenders they could find.
So yes going to school or practicing a trade skill is still an important thing to do. These kinds of internet media trends are only great as a side gig in your free time.
You know that is very true. If you end up ten years down the road with no experience life is going to be really hard
A bank WILL take it as a career on a loan as long as you claim taxes on it, people own small businesses and there is no way to show how much they make because they don’t get pay stubs. My father has to show loaners his taxes from last year for his A/C business since all profits go to him.
The part about job skills is true tho
Lmao nobody elects to pay an extra 50$ per month for job benefits. You're speaking to an audience of mostly 20-year old men, not 60-year olds with prostate cancer and hemorrhoids looking to retire in a few years.
It's actually pretty easy. step 1: Get money (1,000 min preferably) Step2: Invest in low risk stocks with 3-5% yearly returns. step3: PROFIT???
How is so much gold generated
what do i think of manual gold farmers?
they are getting paid to not have a job AND max out all their resource gathering skills
playing rs is their job :D thats nice. i wish we could do that here too...
Nice. Tbis video motivated me to start selling gold
lol i bought from liam when he was selling on skype years ago
Do you know where I can contact Liam
Same, it's the reason why I even clicked on this video lol
Great video man, keep up the good work!
13 billion isnt 13,000,000 you need to add an extra 3 zeros to that
Opps I messed that one up. Shame, I was so focused on my cool math editing there.
Ohh he ment it was 13.000.000k you see. He just fooled you brooo
bro this game is older than me, and im about to get into it
Who would buy gold? Especially when you could just buy bonds. I don't get taking that kind of risk...
It's much cheaper and the risk is really overrated - Unless you buy billions of gp
These videos are prime gold, thanks for making these. It's interesting to see other sides to osrs
Glad you like them man (:
"Only $8000 a month"
Uatemydoodle it isn’t much.....
+crunch9874 You don't think 96k a year is much?
@@crunch9876 you dumb
probably more like 50-70k a year. Upkeep isn't free
@8:11 they don't lose both, just the money. In a transaction, the gold is supposed to be gone
I love these videos btw
(: Thanks again man
same
Just because someone says they make X, doesn't mean they're telling the truth. Most people exaggerate stuff like this like crazy.
"Thirteen Billion GP" *Shows 13 million.*
FYI 98k a year for a comp sci major in the us is probably at or below the 25th percentile when it comes to salary
Hahaha good old Liam. This is 100% accurate for those who don’t believe!
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