The Story of RuneScape's Infamous DDoSer
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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3 years ago, a mysterious ddoser plagued RuneScape’s high-risk pkers. Players dubbed him the Greek God of routers. This is the story of Cheek Alerb: what happened, how players uncovered it and ultimately who was behind it.
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The game servers just got DDosed... I was in world 302... As soon as i loged in youtube i saw your video.. So I guess someone is DDosing servers after they saw your video
Edit: i was the only one who got DDosed.. My runelite is dead right now and the regular client is working fine... I was talking to like 30 people on ardy bank that there is a heavy lag before i got disconnected.. Something fishy is happening
Why no gnome child?
I am perplexed by the lack of gnome children on your store sir.
Abyss arrow is a well known ddosser back in the ventrillo and teamspeak days, just a little information. If he is being targeted by a ddosser it's his own fault. People feared Joining abyss arr0ws teamspeak/ventrillo servers because he was known for selling ips and ddosing people himself .
just ordered a kbd the other day, my ags is hard
They're too pricy for my taste. Neat though.
I don't think the people who are in positions of power at Jagex genuinely care at all about us players. The fact that PLAYERS had to gather evidence is ridiculous.
If you want jagex to start paying attention to their player base concerns, youll need to hit them where it hurts. Mass membership cancellation will do it in one month or even less.
By continuously buying membership on a monthly bases you're essentially telling them that they are doing great.
@@shinrapresident7010 Care to elaborate on that ? With evidence, genuinely interested.
@@shinrapresident7010 Thank you for looking into it. I knew this already but I know it's not common knowledge yet.
ShinRaPresident did you know in the USA you actually don’t own land either. I figured that out. Shits fucked. If they wanna build a road thru your property they can.
@@shinrapresident7010 read all that, yeah seems crazy
This is the longest ExpressVPN ad I’ve ever seen
😂👌
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i am sorry to disappoint you, but VPN in these instances wont help.
So what is DDOS - Distributed denial of service, essentially is that you are getting more requests then hardware can give, lot of different types of how it can be done. Lets say for example TCP Handshake(in order to establish connection there is process called handshake that go client to server, server respond to client, Client confirms to server and establish connection) DDOS - is when only only 2 first phases established, and never actually client confirms connection. basically flooding router with requests.
So in short term it would be flooding device with requests of the data, that device just chugs, we are talking about thousands of requests per second.
when we have basic principles out of the way, so reason why VPN wont help.
when you log in game your connection is secured and server know your public IP that have connected, when VPN server will be DDOS there could be 2 things either it disconnects on client end. or it would take some time to disconnect, because as far as your computer know it is routing all traffic thro VPN server, and it will take some time to understand that is down.
Even if it disconnect quickly your public IP is changed, as far as Jagex server know, you are different client that try to connect to game, meaning your old character are still in combat and logged on, meaning you cant create new connection. You will get message about already connected.
I work in IT, i support clients, and in order to connect there systems (Domain controler, file servers, firewalls) i have to use VPNs, and i connect to VPNs lot of times per day, and that is problem what i sometimes get.
@@didzisfreiss6088 Nobody else voiced their appreciation (I can only assume that what you said is correct) so I'll definitely go ahead and do it. Thanks for the information of how it works. I never new what DDOS even stood for, for some reason I never thought to google it. So thanks for that decent explanation!
@@jonnywilson9117 exactly
Funny to think that Cheeky Alerb/Ex-Mod Jed will see this video.
Funny that he and Jed should be in prison right now.
Deadass
@@trade7701 no ones going to prison for ddosing you on RuneScape lmao
@@Makendu you must have missed the guy who went to prison for threats on RuneScape..
@@Makendu Jed is leaking ip addresses you simpleton fuck lmao.
Hey brother, just wanted to let you know you have an entire audience that hasn't touched RS since they were kids that love your vids. The lore man, it's something I'm so envious that my current main game doesn't have - top knotch shit homie 10/10 please keep it up.
Thank you ! :)
Jagex consistently surprises me with a lush history of incompetence.
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Honestly it seems pretty likely Cheeky Alerb was Jed. Being able to feed IP addresses real time to another player just seems completely unlikely, and almost assuredly something that would get found out quickly- whereas Jed himself, if he was the one doing it, would probably be able to shift the blame from himself for at least a little while.
Cheeky Alerb WAS Jed. It's already been confirmed multiple sources have documented that
Making people lose hundreds of $$ in money explains him hiding lol, if he made me lose that kind of money I’d make him do rooftop agility irl
His numbers were way off, it's much higher than $100's. Try $1000's or more.
hahahahhahaahahha
Candy money he stole from greasy rs players they wont do shit
im weakkkk rooftop agility irl
@@MaLordWotan Barely, if we're being realistic.. But yeah.
RuneScape is something else man I swear 😂
More people should get acquainted with the game just for the drama this game brings.
I just saw a video of a guy that for 8 years spent 14 hours at castle wars sabotaging matches. Wtf. 😅
@@SuperVladamere that’s the type of drama we need 😂😂
Thank you for doing this video. I never knew this was a story. Very interesting and scary. Loved it and love the content !
Glad you enjoyed it!
I remember bullerik was telling ice poseidon on stream once maybe late december 2015 that rot had an insider to Jagex and he laughed at him and no one in chat believed him.
i remember that as well one of the best streams in osrs history lmao
My internet started to buffer watching this so the guy is still watching
Make a Cheeky Alerb figure ill buy that shit
Would love to see you do an interview with Erik & joa on bug abusing.
Noticed your comment before :) Would love to do one - just gotta find a way to contact them
@@Crumb Ay, nice. Thanks for the reply
aufzen lol.
I became aware of this game when I was a freshman in college about 4 years ago and my roommate was flipping out about remembering it and getting re-addicted to it. I've only ever played it once lol, but these videos are so damn interesting.
Runescape goes so deep, and i love that!! The f2p methods are very good!! There are not that many games having this!!
Runescape is one of the longest running MMOs on the internet, and it's always been rife with a lot of really wild shit because people with a lot of times on their hands (ie. young people and just general nolifers) would get super into it. I bet people who played Ultima Online and Everquest have similar sorts of stories, judging from my dad's stories, but since the audience of those games is much older from what I know it doesn't seem like people are making as many videos about it.
Imagine going to school and studying all that shit just to piss it all away. taking from the very people that give you an income from the job u had. Thats some kind of shitty.
mod jed is watching this video from an ice berg on alaska
😂
We Alaskans don't want him
Meaning he’s from Alaska, or he’s kind of hiding from Jagex/the internet community?
Drama queen
Before watching: Mod Jed Documentary?
Yep.
@@Slothptimal not really
Runescape is so unique and crazy. Lol truly amazing all for a video game.
It's like that because Jagex doesn't give a shit.
All for a video game, yes. But with how long it takes to acquire items of value in the game, it gives them a lot of real world value too. So when someone's doing stuff like this, they're likely selling the items virtually in exchange for real world money.... and they're likely making bank. IRL. So.... even crazier, I guess... not only for a video game, but abusing a video game for hefty real world gains. Crazy. That's runescape for you. So much so that it's literally the economic infrastructure for some third world countries. I'm not joking, look it up, lol.... probably shouldn't be laughing at that >.>
Would’ve been a perfect video to sponsor expressVPN lmao
Crazy to think a game as simple as pointing and clicking can create so much drama, this shit was surreal
I love the way you investigate and present stories, keep up the good work
Lmao “one thing they didn’t look into is liking the video and buying our figurines”
At 10:03 in private chat it shows a player named Makendu. That player got my 14 year old younger self to try to log into a phishing website back in like 2009 and yoinked all my stuff and even dropped my torso. Sad to see this player still around and somehow keeps popping up on content creator's vids.
many of current content creators have shady pasts, Framed was part of lurenation and lured loads of people
makendu is in this videos comment section too, might be the same guy. he's in one of the big threads further up
@@garg0y7e sure is, and from all the recent comments on this channel, they haven't changed a bit.
As a long time pker It seems like you are over explaining TB’s, Sara Strike, smites, etc. But then i realized most of RS doesn’t pk. Great video !
Nah. I have never pvped at all and knew all of their abilities. Should not be this difficult.
Massivre security flaw, there's no reason at all why a low high ranking mod or even an low ranking admin should be able to see players i.p's
Normal Jagex employees and mods shouldn't have access to IP information whatsoever.
Hey man I really enjoy the research you put into these videos keep it up!
Thank you :)
liked strictly cause of how smoothly you threw the sponsor in there
Because of how little jagex did about the situation i feel like Mod Jed was just the tip of the iceberg, sadly.
@@unknownanon4993 pretty much, ask yourself how they let someone have the type of access he did have to begin with. From a programmer/game dev perspective it should be obvious to not give all kinds of access to most devs, if any at all. As far as we know as a community, he had personal details on people and there's an ongoing lawsuit of jagex because of this.
@@Xortrox too right mate. This is a super serious incident to occur within a company
@@unknownanon4993 yea for sure theres money to be made
I'd legit be lawyering up and sending jagex subpeonas to sue jed and cheeky alerb if I had been DDOS'd, that shit is criminal.
@@johnnycigar3240 selling gold you earned - illegal
If that's the case then this should come with jail time.
These people lost 100x my account.. That's literally thousands and thousands of hours of game time.
This is rediculous!! It makes me concerned about progressing, what's the point? Will I get hacked, scammed, ddosd? Will jagex even care if my sole self did? The answers are possibly yes I will and most deffinately no they wont! It's not acceptable.
Give him jail time no joke! It's theft!
I love ur vids brother Crumb, always looking forward to the next upload
Thank you :)
Man i just found your channel and I've been binge watching. These videos are all great dude keep it up
Thanks man! New upload this weekend :)
Why didn't cheeky alerb just change his name after each successful ddos? Or even after each 20? He would have never have been properly tracked with deductive reasoning / banned in the first place / and would have gotten more loot from risk fighters who already knew might have known his name. This guy sounds pretty stupid to me.
He went under many aliases after his cheeky alerb account got banned, I left that tidbit out
@@Crumb hmmm just the first part about how people would spam around people to tab because everyone knew his name already seemed pretty illogical on his part to not want to change it at that point. Sounds like the dude just wanted clout lol.
@@RendiMento when you want clout, but end up getting jailed and railed 💩
@@LeeBro999 they never charged him because jagex would have to admit he had access to personal information which would open them up to lawsuits if it was true
@@gamerdude73 lol thats a good point plus the community would lose TONS of players knowing how fucked up the company is , i feel like jagex is close to getting exposed , theres a high chance most jmods are corrupt theres something shady as fuck in jagex and they refuse to tell anything not knowing that the community pays their low salaries so idk man but something/someone is close to getting exposed everything is just shady mod jed and ddosing and possible shadow banning and jagex banning for no reason...
Whole ROT clan should be banned. Rigging deadman tournaments, DDosing, revs, etc.
Lol how is revs listed as a reason
@@B.o.o.L I mean they were exploiting Venezuelans there paying them barely anything to work for them xD
@@lolsamftw Well I mean not like they have any opportunity to get paid more lol they were most likely happy to have any sort of opportunity at all
Yeah boy this is runescape, even fkin slavery is a thing here. Man i mean even two decades later, this game just won't seeze to amaze me lol :D Dafuq man, sht is fkd up yo
@@tvmanin I don’t think you know much about the game since when was holding down revs and even pay to pvm worlds against the rules ? It’s never been nobody has been banned for it
Good stuff. very interesting! Great to see things like these come to light.
I'm glad you liked the video :)
What a well thought out, informative, and interesting video. Hats off crumb! Spot on. 👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
crazy. i remember getting ddosed by him in v square, i was able to live by spamming the varrok west bank and made it in. was risking ancestral, kodai wand, max everything. crazy shit. the durial321 of my runescape era.
Whaaa.. No "Love, peace, and chicken grease" sign off outro? When did this happen?
Oak dice? Isn’t that a gossip channel? 😂
No.1 gossip girl channel
Lol thats why im no longer subbed
oakdice gets to much heat
He made a video advertising a pay to win clan and lost subs. He's a gonad.
Ahhh good thing jagex solved this problem and refunded the victims. ...oh wait
Jagex really thought employing a RoT member was a good idea lmfao
He did a lot more than rekindle the idea, this video added nothing new.. literally every talking point of other videos in order, same clips same images same structure. >_
like almost all of his other videos
this whole thing kinda reminds me of the early stages of L's investigation into kira, with the whole trying to figure out if he could get IPs in real time in correlation with L using someone on death row to see if he could kill someone with just a name and face.
At least now Jagex knows NOT to hire anyone to the company associated with ROT.
Honestly it would be a good idea to have a jmod or two just secretly monitoring them at all times.
@@thehoodedteddy1335 Definitely! They've proven they can't be trusted.
If Jed was doing some RMT on the side, this would have been a good way to farm gear and gold before flipping it.
Anything that involves someone cheating / exploiting in a multiplayer game against another player is just absolutely just depressing.
You should make figurines of the random events. I really want leo the grave digger and the sandwich lady.
Same!
Liked the video before seeing it, you always make crazy good videos mate!
Yeah!!!
"No legitimate pker carries around 2 staves."
Me: ... Uhoh.
U know these kind of things happen in eve online too, but never have they been due to the incompetence of the developers, and in rs, all these things are simply due to the incompetence of jagex, funny how a company who cares so less about their player base has such a big playerbase.
Grimiest community ever! Thanks for the videos, seems like installing this game is an invitation from every scum bag on the internet to enter your house
"Grimiest community ever!" LOL, this is true. Glad you like the videos. :)
Man, I recognize a lot of the names in this video from pking, and wars in the wild back when I still played - Good times.
lol I watch these videos having never played runescape lol. It’s almost like a mental exercise because I have to sort of figure out what these different things are. I am not really a big player of games but I do find the little black markets and unintended economies and the social hierarchy that form around certain games fascinating. The idea of some guy sitting in his room who in reality may be considered a loser but within the game he plays he has the power and notoriety of a Lucchese crime boss cracks me up.
this dude is gangsta, doesn't even change his name lol
I got disconected while watching this video
Lots of cheeky tactics
man deadass right before u said his new alias was vuhsachee i legit got a versace commercial wtf😂
Wow crumb i am a noob and am way too scared to pk is it okay to just stay to skilling or will i get made fun of?
Yeah bro your good just have fun
@@aMasterPole okay thank you.
@@LulJim if u want a afk way to make gp i suggust getting 35 smithing and making cannonballs i made a decent amount doing them! plus they r hella afk!
@@jamestcg1468 okay i will try that tomorrow i am only at 1mil gp and need to maintain my bond rn
@@LulJim whats ur ign? i can help u if u need help
Those figures look great. Did u use runelite file grabbing plugin and 3d print??
That’s a thing?! You just blew my mind lol
I don't get how players wouldn't first assume the person was somehow getting help from the inside. Think about how quickly you'd need to find their information. He doesn't have enough time to figure it out int he moment if it were from discord or whatever. It would need to be from something almost instantly.
You perfectly explained why it would make sense that he was pulling the information straight from the client....
imagine committing a felony for a video game.
I mean it was a smart risk it just that the mod was slippin. From what I know, the hacker cud have sold his account full of valuables on the bm and make millions off of it and nobody would be able to pin it on him because the account isn't his anymore.
He’s from the uk we don’t have felony’s just regular charges and nothing to him has happened since and he probably made a few 100k so I would say it went well
@@droxxy94 So him giving people DDoS viruses is the same as him just littering trash?
@@preezus you will get longer but there is no misdemeanour or felony it’s just known as a charge. You are either sent to high court or magistrates court, they are also not viruses lol
@@preezus ddos isn't a virus
This, for me, was the best video you've ever done. So interesting.
Thank you :)
And I bet the victims didn’t get any of their gear back 🙄
The true madness is in many countries ddos is a felony and may result in 10 years in prison.
And kids are doing it everyday
*Love* the vids!
I have an *awesome* video idea!
-Challenge other Streamers & Fans to a contest.
-The contest is 24 hour HCIM fight.
-After the 24 hours you take your HCIM to fight.
-Places such as Dueling arena, Castle Wars, Wild(If you want to go hard).
Another similar idea:
-Get some Streamers & Fans.
-The contest is create even teams for a clan fight.
-Players have 24 hours on a f2p account.
-After the 24 hours the clans group up & meet in the wild. (Or a place where you can control the environment better)
Hope you can adapt these ideas, and create some awesome content!
Best of luck!
How did this ever work? As soon as your connection is lost, shouldnt your character disappear from the map and be rolled back to before the drop when you log back in? Thats just common sense, your character wouldnt be just standing there with no computer connected
The only possible explanation to how he can ddos random runescape players is being a jagex moderator , mod jed. Great video ! This is a dark side to rs many people dont know!
Great video man
One of your best vids mate!
I never played this game more than a few minutes but the stories are very cool to watch
Good video but Wiggled's Jed accusations weren't the first, I believe I was the first to accuse Jed of leaking IPs via the DMM Tournament final hours as it was the only logical explanation in situations where I was always extra careful, got a new IP/Router hours before the finales, etc... Probably got ddosed in over $150,000 in tournaments
waffle
"Only a Jedi could have erased those files....but who...and why?"
guy unlocked the dark magic skill.
0:15 *sees windows 7 interface*
Now there's a face I haven't seen in a long time...a long time.
Wow. A modern day Duriel
A Vpn would ruin this whole thing. Can't break my internet when im in England but actually not in england. GOTCHA
i am sorry to disappoint you, but VPN in these instances wont help.
So what is DDOS - Distributed denial of service, essentially is that you are getting more requests then hardware can give, lot of different types of how it can be done. Lets say for example TCP Handshake(in order to establish connection there is process called handshake that go client to server, server respond to client, Client confirms to server and establish connection) DDOS - is when only only 2 first phases established, and never actually client confirms connection. basically flooding router with requests.
So in short term it would be flooding device with requests of the data, that device just chugs, we are talking about thousands of requests per second.
when we have basic principles out of the way, so reason why VPN wont help.
when you log in game your connection is secured and server know your public IP that have connected, when VPN server will be DDOS there could be 2 things either it disconnects on client end. or it would take some time to disconnect, because as far as your computer know it is routing all traffic thro VPN server, and it will take some time to understand that is down.
Even if it disconnect quickly your public IP is changed, as far as Jagex server know, you are different client that try to connect to game, meaning your old character are still in combat and logged on, meaning you cant create new connection. You will get message about already connected.
I work in IT, i support clients, and in order to connect there systems (Domain controler, file servers, firewalls) i have to use VPNs, and i connect to VPNs lot of times per day, and that is problem what i sometimes get.
Just like the guy above, your IP on the VPN is still leading to your pc. So it wont do anything
Honestly, it’s mindblowing that there’s a company that takes a stance like Jagex do, thinking that players satisfaction is the responsibility of the players themselves, it’s absolutely *absurd* and we’re still eating that shit up. Also the fact that they only kept on adding incremental changes/updates to a game that runs on an engine from 10.000 BC + the fact they never really commit on stopping scams and bots operations that fuel the RWT economy + the gargantuan amount of gp switching hands in duel arena every single day. Problems that have presisted for at least 6 years caused by rules that are not strictly enforced in OSRS free trading system have not been resolved and are still plaguing the game, truly shows the priorities that Jagex has regarding on maintaining and developing osrs.
Am i missing something here or is there any significant fixes or updates regarding the issues i mentioned? Because i just cannot not seeing a clear connection here, i strongly believe that it’s either Jagex’s real revenue is not coming from membership or it’s a sweet side hustle that is just too good to be stopped for them.
Bots, cheaters, abusers, and exploiters pay for membership.
Ban enough to look like they're kinda trying, leave enough to make sure they stay profitable.
I love the game but hate the company.
I used to pull IP's out of Call of Duty games through an app called Cain and Abel, it would give IP's of anybody in the lobby with us. I would be willing to bet that when you interact with another player in game, a similar app would show up the new IP that's interacted with your connection, giving him the IP to hit offline as soon as he attacked them.
u would lose a lot of money
Nice of you to shoutout the runescape gossip channel 😂 aka Oak
just preordered a kbd, hype
Thank you! :) I'll have it down to the post office for you in the morning
Ddossing was huge pre eoc too. Lol
Cheeky Alerb was basically the RuneScape equivalent of SAO's Death Gun ^^
the BGM choices are fire
He needs to go too prison
I CAN CONFIRM CHEEKY ALERB WAS A DDOSER, HE DDOSED ME NUMEROUS TIMES AT DUEL ARENA FOR OVER 38.5B, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WARNING OTHERS ABOUT HIM!
Loving the Octopath Traveler music
Me too
It's Durials son
Cheeky Alerb's real name: Death Gun
lol
This is almost like DeathNote but for the Runescape world
The deeper connection you have the better ways to make illicit money. Same goes irl in business. Talking to an owner of 20+ gas stations. Mcdonalds,and other retail chains. Black market is tricky
I got jacked by Cheeky during this time. I got extremely lucky and teled back before he started TBing. My client froze up as I spam clicked my tele. It never showed me teleing on my client. About 5 mins later I got back in and thankfully one of the packets containing my TB request went through.
After that happened I didn't PK until about 1 year after Jed was exposed because I didn't know they were linked.
So, the guy got a dream job at Jagex and then just ruined it all? Makes perfect sense. His train of thought is incomprehensible to me, being just the mere mortal I am.
I know this is 3 years old but this is easy to tell if someone purposefully did this to you. If it happens and you suspect it there’s an application Kali Linux users use to see all network status’s. Yes I’m being vague yes it’s still doable yes it’s dangerous in the wrong hands. But good guys use it too
Jagex should send all the illegal things he did to the local police so that they can lock him up.
He's fled the UK and he is living somewhere else, so he will never go to prison (rumored that he moved to Argentina)
@@redaxecat9206 Jagex's fault for not sending info to police before they fired him, what a bunch of idiots.
“Bank loot w58” oh the nostalgia
I’m still not convinced it’s Jed. Where did he find the time to be this corrupt stuff. We are ultimately ignoring that there’s probably dozens of j mods currently doing this. Nothing has Improved in all this time he’s been gone.I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a jagex wide conspiracy considering how poorly jagex pays. Jmods probably can’t afford rent and food without doing this.
It was literally Jed. He also stole billions by recovering accounts. He is the reason Revs got added to the game, and single handedly gave ROT 3 back to back wins during deadman.
@@AntonioHernandez-gb6re I’ve heard the official story enough times at this point. Thanks for that quick recap
lmfao - if I met "Cheeky Alerb" - the "greek god of routers" - he'd shit his pants.
"because hes using official client" next scene show him with runelite plugins for his hp/prayer bars
Baffling why you'd risk your career and future employment opportunities for such tiny gains and something as childish as a clan, Jed really wasn't the smartest
Bruh... If i can 5 minutes in the room with cheeky ...