DEBATE: Our TOP 10 ALL TIME Players To Never Win The BALLON D'OR! Ft. Iniesta, Henry etc
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2022
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Pirlo literally was the only creative hub for Italy and they still haven’t replaced his creativity yet. Massive Lyes W, Faysal speaks like he’s never watched Pirlo play
he got agendas man. hazard ramos modric hmm what are the similarities..
He said Pirlo cant influence a game like Modric 😭 Pirlos career literally consisted out of of influencing every single game he ever played in
Haha just wrote that as well. Definitely didn’t watch him play
The guy is clueless, talking about Hazard like he’s Messi and talking about Pirlo like he’s Henderson
Hes got an agenda the same way he said neymar is better than r9 pele dinho but refuses to put him near cr7 is crazy.
The way star slowly walked faze into that hazard trap was as brilliant as OJ’s lawyers getting him off😂 stars you are a fucking legend!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH i’m crying 😭😭
Time stamp?
@@lamentspace around 1:14:00
@Itz Elytra yeah man xX-Faze_al-Xx pro waffler
Pirlo astronomically underrated
FFF got da Sickness
I used to think Faysal knew ball but in recent weeks he's had so many shit takes, this one is probably the worst.
You know Sharky is leveling up, when he gets Ferran Torres in an sds podcast right after scoring in a classico 👏👐🤣
Faysal is sick. Pirlo was the definition of controlling the game and he had a plethora of passes in him.
Takes everything so personally lol, Modric has a shout for being better but 0/10 take
Yep he is seriously ill
He honestly has the worst takes I’ve ever heard, man was talking about Pirlo like he’s Scott Mctominay
man was waxing on hazard but disrespect pirlo
He's right though. Pirlo is an all time great but he's overrated by people who are only old enough to have watched him towards the end of his career at Juventus. He's not in that Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, Modric bracket. Genuinely, Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes were better. Not much better and I'd group them all in the same bracket but they were better.
I feel like Neur is so underrated. Should’ve been at least top 10
Funny how with Kante we now think about what he did at Chelsea and France, and we forget that he made on of the greatest runs to a title of all time with Leicester, while arguably being the best player on that team, ESPECIALLY when you realize his journey to the top and where he came from.
He probably wasnt the best, but he was the most important
@@limpan9999 Yeah I mean you could argue Vardy, maaybe Mahrez, but it's also skewed by those two being attackers and therefore having flashier stats. Kante dominated premier league midfielders with ease on a team where he really shouldn't have been able to.
@@limpan9999 Kante freed up Vardy and mahrez and allowed them to do their thing just like he does with pogba for France
Kante won PL player year in 2017 with Chelsea also, and Leicester went back to being midtable right after he left with same team
Bro when they said he was the best player in the UCL win I knew they don’t watch him, any Chelsea supporter knows he was great in the last 2 games, but mount was our best player
Faysal as of late usually doesn’t miss but that pirlo take was a howler
But it is true modric is better. He is 37 at his age iniesta was in japan xavi in qatar. Pirlo mls. And modric is from croatia a worse country and still got to his team far. He is much better. But faysal needs to give credit to pirlo he was amazing
@@abdullahiomar20 Pirlo is undoubtedly the better footballer.
@@abdullahiomar20 I think it's honestly debatable between Pirlo and Modric, Modric probably does get the nod overall but saying that Pirlo isn't on that level is kinda outrageous. And sure, Modric is better at his age than Pirlo was at the same age, but Pirlo was an absolute beast for a long, long time, and if you put Modric on any other team than Madrid it's probably no contest that Pirlo was as good if not better.
@@abdullahiomar20 ibra is better at 40 years old than Henry. So is ibra better? nice logic
@@abdullahiomar20 Pirlo completed football when he was 27, stop talking, Pirlo is a better player than Modric 100%
I love this cast so much, the chemistry between them the banter, the knowledge it’s got everything. All star line up
Liban >
starting xi imo
Faysel aint got no knowledge
I miss sugar shaun!! What’s happened to him?
@@davidkrapenshitz668 Got taken off for saying liverpool fans were responsible for hillsburough and multiple tweets when he was racist and said the N word
“They all eat at the same table, some of them might have more food on their plate but they all eat at the same table.”
This guy is amazing. Needs to be on every week.
18:00
Poetry one would say
Pains me how much the brudda in the Adidas hoodie has no clue about Pirlo 🤣
@@sinless4088 'brudda in the Adidas hoodie' is sooo disrespectful, uve clearly never watched before
@@Aditya_Jayaram I didn't, hence me calling him the brudda in the Adidas hoodie and not his name. His view on Pirlo is plain and utter idiocy.
this 4 + Liban are the perfect SDS pod. That 5 man pod would be golden
Lyes ball knowledge is so astronomically clear of everyone on the table. He knows ball. Star player the worst when it comes to knowledge, but he’s a fun character
and fuizzy is the most annoying, get liban in
Hazard’s 2018/19 season was his best season imo. He finally got to play in a more possession based attacking system under Sarri and he flourished. 2018 as a whole he was outstanding (second half of 2017/18, World Cup, 2018/19) so that was the year I would’ve chose if he was to be in contention for balon d’or.
Van Dijk definitely winning that year if no Messi
@@jaredganesan1896 Hazard had the better year
@@waheezy you waffling. No he didn’t.
@@siyamabuza182 most influential player for their team so yes he did
@@waheezyMost influential for his team, sure but VVD was arguably the most important player for Liverpool that season and he won the UCL. He actually came second in the ballon d’or that season so it’s a fact he would have won it if Messi and Ronaldo didn’t exist. You have no case for Hazard.
Fayz is a living mystery. One minute I praise him for his takes and the next I am baffled at how stupid it is. Nonetheless, I love the guy!
Also, starz had a howler there
you guys need to do a Iconic Players draft challenge part 2 but by country, just before the world cup. Other video is so good
Please make a top 10 greatest teams in football History
We haven’t seen that one yet
The Bergkamp shout isn't crazy because he came 2nd in the Ballon d'or list in 1993. If it wasn't for Baggio, he was taking it. He was phenomenal for Ajax
Bergkamp is one of the greatest players of his generation. Put it this way, when he was at Ajax, he outperformed Marco Van Basten. Put that into context. Bergkamp is criminally underrated, possibly more so than Pirlo.
@@garymaidman625 Lol no
@@sib1930 yes
@@garymaidman625 one of the biggest shames of the modern era. The only player that can be compared to Bergkamp is Zidane
@@DustyFC exactly, I don't use this term lightly when it comes to footballers, but Bergkamp was majestic. A player who is very similar in technical ability and style who is perhaps even more criminally underrated is a player that R9 and Romario both named as the best forward they have ever played with, a Belgian player for PSV Eindhoven by the name of Luc Nilis. If you aren't familiar with him, do yourself a favour and look up a compilation of his goals. He could score every type of goal.
As much as I love this video, it is so much better when sharks has a list. Always good to hear his arguments and such and such.
yea cuz his very good a playing devils advocate
This is THE starting lineup for SDS! Iyes and Faysal have very good ball knowledge, but also have different views on certain topics. Starplayer is pure vibes, that Hazard trap even got me lmao.Great episode boys!
Gotta respect squad depth though, Ilyas and Liban together is a better partnership than Son and Kane 😅
Star player is replaceable
Disrespectful to kante, people still talk about him like he’s makelele’s regen.
Kante is so much more than just a DM, he is also a world class box to box. underrated passing.
without kante, chelsea don’t win 16/17 premier league and 20/21 champions league.
Never seen a player like kante and I don’t think we’ll see a player like him for a very long time.
don't forget Leicester's title tooo
@@kevinparada7691 and PFA player of the year
It’s funny how busquet and Casemiro has had a better career . I have to say , Kante is overrated. Yes he won , but he’s not a top top player as you say
@@Enoch_fit maniacal comment
recency bias is real. how was there so much hate for hazard but then i hear sadio mane lmaooo
can tell it's gonna be a good one just by seeing the lineup
This is easily the best line up, faysal and lyes is prime xavi and iniesta
Favorite video yet! Unbelievable banter, chemistry, and intelligent arguments. Shoutout again starplayer for that hazard demolition.
CONGRATS TO BIG BENZ!
Ronaldo hasn’t said that .
Big ups faisal for the hazard and suarez prop, bruddah knows ball.
Hazard extremely overrated he really rates hazard above dinho
Not having Lampard anywhere in this list is atrocious, not even mentioned by a single persons list, ballon d'Or 2005 he was robbed, 04/05 Chelsea won the league and the league cup, Chelsea broke all sorts of records in doing so, Lampard was integral to the team, won FWA and PFA Premier league player of the season, won Chelseas player of the season, won Englands player of the season, top assister in the league, was in European team of the season. Put up 19 goals and 21 assists in all comps, compared with a Ronaldihno who won La liga and put up numbers of 13 goals and 16 assists all comps, Ronaldinho won it because of the eye test, but to not metion lampard at all in this list is a genuine travesty, awful takes by all round on this one.
Not to even mention other seasons he could have won it, his entire career as one of the best midfielders in the world, 09/10 winning the league and the FA cup, 27 goals and 18 assists in 51 games all comps, not even nominated int he top 23, another travesty, because he's british and his name is Frank.
You trying to tell me Ronaldinho robbed Lampard of a ballon d'or in 2005??? Come off it mate. Lampard had a stellar year but Ronaldinho was by far and away the best footballer in the world in 2005.
You guys need to check your boy about that water carrier remark about kante. Kantè is a top tier talent his athleticism, stamina and his ability to read the game sets him apart from a lot of great dm’s of the past 20-30 years.
For example I personally think you can swap kantè for Casemiro and Madrid still do win what they win if not more domestic trophies. And I highly doubt Casemiro wins the prem with Leicester
Kante is the best defensive midfielder of all time imo, back to back motm in semi plus the finale + World Cup, prem with Leicester. UEFA best player. It’s a stretch saying it but he’s my goat
Stars looking like Jinder Mahal😂😂
20min and one of the best episodes, the grizzzman pick 😭😭😭😭
Grizi finished 3rd twice and without messi and ronaldo would have won in 2016
Sneijder in 2010 comes to mind for me immediately
Ribery 2013 comes to mind immediately
@@abusaeed5083 Lewandowski in 2021 comes to my mind immediately.
@@RB-bm7cl only thing lewa had more was goals
@@RB-bm7cl na that one wasn't bro 2020 lewa messi got 2021
Faisal is mad for that pirlo thought, pirlo is the one that started midfielders with that level of creativity. Not saying modric is bad but pirlo is up there
Yeah if you measure midfielders only in creativity. But You cant have Pirlo on his own dragging a team to anything like gerrard did liverpool in 05. He cant do what a Viera can do. fair enough he is the best player at doing what he can do. but he doesn't come close to players that can do more than one thing.
@@123kidxpac123pac Not sure this take is on point. Pirlo honestly didn't have any weak points, maybe pace as he got older but he was the best player on a world cup winning team, won multiple champions leagues, dominated at multiple positions in his career, and honestly might be one of the best passers of all time. He absolutely controlled games for over a decade, got older, and started a dynasty with Juve for another 6-7 years as a stellar DM. I'm not saying he's the best of all time, but he is absolutely in the top tier of midfielders over the last 25 years
Beckham deserves a shout for what he did in '99
nowhere near the best that year lol
@@asianwarrior2193 Apparently he was second best.
Beckham was elite that season one of the best player in that team
during the 2010 world cup all four semi finalists had a player with the most goals in the tournament, villa, sneijder, forlan and muller; all on 5 goals.
this cast cannot be dropped the chemistry that is here is mad
To me personally THIS IS THE LINEUP. The chemistry is so good and it's so fun to listen to
I think Rooney definitely had a year or two where he could be considered a ballon dor winner
Pirlo definitely in the modric , xavi , iniesta category 🐐
Fayz just has real Madrid bias
With Kroos too
No
One of my favourite ever shows this one! Elite podcast
This was a great video . Stars as always came with a vibe . Now i want to see TOP 10 U23 players . There are more than 10 players who are very good. It will be a great video
Torres was a great shout, won his country their first major title, amazing domestic season and was the only player in the world 11 that didn’t win a trophy. Prime Torres was unplayable
Pirlo is insanely underrated. Pirlo is 100% in the same tier as Modric Xavi and Iniesta. Faysal is deluded.
new favorite podcast. listened to one before but could not find it. Have a good day yall
43:33 nah that was too funny when he said b fr and b serious LMFAO im in tearss
Ivan Toney was the first guy that cam to my mind as someone closest to Torres
Really?
In what sense? Stylistically?
Toney is a such a big striker and isn't as fast ...there's not similarity
Did you watch Torres play hahah so confused at this comment and the fact it has double digits likes
@@yessi1585 I have. It's clear that toney is not on the same level as Torres but they do have some similar traits. The question to my answer was, "who is the closest to torres in PL?". Toney is the one who instantly comes to my mind. Just my opinion tho
Griezmann actually ranked top 3 in a couple of the years😅
2016 when he went to a UCL and Euro final and was too scorer of the euros and in 2018 when he won Europa league/World Cup and was 2nd scorer of the World Cup
Actually love the Griezmann pick, he is so underrated🙌🏽
Banger idea and episode 🔥🔥🔥
To be fair Ramos won Madrid the 2014 UCL, by scoring 2 goals in the semi final and the clutch goal in the final, on top of being the best defender
Not saying he deserves a Ballon d'Or of course but it's not the worst shout
They made him seem like an average player defensively, sure he had his flaws but he absolutely elite
He has like a million goal line clearances and he always delivered in big games for madrid, good that fayz is there cuz he knows what ramos was about
Cool that they got Ferran Torres to come onto the podcast
Bro I thought I was the only one😂😂
When Stars got Faze with the breakdown and trap I pissed myself laughing !! SDS moment of the month LOL
#Sensational Messi 2017 classico settings
Goats back at it again 🐐
Not even a mention of Bale is absolutely criminal.
true
I guess bcos he’s never had that mental year where he was top 3 ballondor level
😂
Big up Waleed for producing this episode
Luv the stream big up the cast ther
Maybe a hot take but I think Ballon d’Or votes should be done by every manager of Europe’s top 5 leagues as well as Portuguese league and Eredivise, maybe even managers from every top flight division in Europe. Feel like it would be a fair way of doing it and you’d think the managers would know the most ball. Maybe this would have meant Henry never getting robbed.
Still crazy how Milito wasn’t even nominated in 2010
seeing lyes in the lineup just fills me with joy
The hazard and kante disrespect is unreal
Need american Ilyas on every discussion man brudda is too pure
So much context is left out when people talk about Inter and Barcelona winning the Champions League without Zlatan it's actually crazy. He's not bad in that competition at all honestly he just hasn't won it, happens to the best of them (aka R9). Also Neuer and Bergkamp deserve A LOT more respect on this list lads, whats going on here 🤨love the pod tho keep it up 👏
can you do top 10 current players in form?
In terms of who reminds me of Torres , Two people come to mind , 1st) Lewandowski , body shape both large tall player that are very technical and deadly finishers . Maybe mot as athletic as Torres .. and then Lauturo Martinez a short version of him . Can get in behind zc can hold up play , good strike of the ball . Premier lesgue shout : Isak . Cavani also same profile
Dennis Bergkamp was 2nd for ballon d'or in the year 1993 when he played for inter and 3rd for Ajax the year before , he isn't a bad shout. He was elite at 2 different clubs before joining Arsenal
he was an inter flop
We need that prem review bruv
“Pirlo can’t play that thru ball in behind” 😂 these boys need to get an education
yeah, ridiculous
New SDS let’s goooo
Nah the disrespect on Kante these man didn’t watch kante week in week out one of the best cdms ever he was unstoppable for 5 years run everywhere read everything the other team was doing couldn’t past him his. Passing is so underrated aswell has his dribbling he is 5 foot 6 and never gets bullied of the ball one of the best cdms ever to play footy
Banger
great video, anyone know what brand sharkys hoodie is?
You guys must do a ranking of the best club teams of all time
Manuel Neuer should be very high.
Where did they put him
Comparing sneijder with jorginho is crazy, sneijder was actually top 2 midfielders that year imo
@Itz Elytra in 2010 I rate Sneijder above Xavi slightly but Iniesta above Sneijder
@Itz Elytra I am also a dutch man so maybe a little bias but even if you look at what he achieved that year he was defo top 3 and for me top 2 midfielders
@Itz Elytra you put Xavi above Iniesta that year how??
@Itz Elytrahow old are you ? They weren't, they only finished higher because they won the worldcup..if it was the other way around he would've have won it
@Itz Elytra it isn't 50/50 xavi was better but iniesta got more credit because of that winner .....fact is xavi was Spain and barca moat important midfielder, the rest were replaceable
You just have to watch Pirlo week in week out to admire how beautiful that man was on the pitch
Crazy Pirlo isn't on the same level as Xavi, Iniesta, and Modric when all three of those players had the two best players of all time in their sides. Just imagine Pirlo connecting passes and plays to the both of them. I guarantee Pirlo has an easier time slotting in into any midfield than Xavi and Iniesta and remaining his class
Henry never deserved the Ballon d'Or. I'll explain why. 1) Played in the third strongest (at best) league in the world at the time. Both Serie A and La Liga were far superior to the Prem in the early-to-mid 2000s, so his performances/ stats were never going to catch the eye ahead of players like R9 and Shevchenko. 2) Did absolutely jackshit in Europe in the 2001-02, 2002-03 and 2003-04 seasons. The ''Invincibles'' choked against pre-Mourinho Chelsea with guys like Damien Duff and Jasper Gronkjear (lol) and the season before they finished behind Valencia and Ajax in the group stages, going out in Matchday 6, the last day. In 01-02, lost away to Schalke, Panathinaikos and Mallorca. They then lost away at Juventus, who fielded their B team because they were already out of the second group stages and Arsenal STILL lost and went home despite only needing A POINT to qualify. They also lost home and away to Deportivo in the same campaign. The Inter team they beat 1-5 at San Siro (a team who had just lost their manager btw) also beat them 0-3 at Highbury, which people conveniently forget. That Inter team also reached the semi-final, whereas Arsenal couldn't even get to the knockouts. 3) He wasn't that impressive for France. Besides the fact that he was never the main man for the national team because of Zizou, who even at an advanced age was the daddy of world football, he never really did anything himself for the national team. People still had the failures of 2002 in their minds, and Euro 2004 was another failure for them (I am aware those tournaments were part of the seasons on either side). His international career was nothing to shout about, and he never stood out those years.
Finally, I know people will bring up the fact that Ballon d'Or is voted on by journalists and people like that, but we also had the FIFA World Player of the Year award going on concurrently, which was only voted on by players and managers, and he never won that, either, which means he wasn't rated as the best player in the world for any season even by his peers. In '02 it was R9, in '03 it was Zidane, and in '04 it was Ronaldinho.
Fact is, Henry never deserved any of these awards, and that's the proof right there.
I actually dont mind the Ramos best CB ever shout by Faysal
😭😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀
ramos is an awful defender how is he the best cb ever are you lot dumb?
Awful take. At no point was Ramos the undisputed best cb in the world. He was always up there and sometimes maybe the best, but he was always contested.
One of the greatest cb careers achievement wise and he was crucial, but nowhere near being the actual best
Ramos perception is heavily skewed because he scored important goals. On the idea of pure defending ability, he is no where amongst the best to ever do it. Diego Godin and Chiellini are better pure defenders. Both the anchors of defensive club and NT which they led to success.
@@uyema5275 I see your point, they were clear of him defensively, but what did that get them? L’s against the man himself!!
Can you do another goat bracket, like cb or something. I just think goat brackets are a sick idea and i really enjoy them
I like how Sharky has his laptop out and doesn’t even bother to google who won the award in what year lmao
The Torres Morata comparison was spot on. No lie I was thinking Morata before he said his name.
Faysal’s got agendas on Pirlo. You can’t say he doesn’t influence games, controls games and doesn’t produce moments of magic with a straight face. He sits on the same table as Zizou, Iniesta and Modric
No this where people are wrong. Zizou sits at a different table alone. He was clearly the best out of all of them he’s on another level
for me top 5 are zizou, xavi, iniesta, pirlo & modric. faysal tried so hard to push modric to the top he had to bring down pirlo etc
But yes pirlo sits on the same table as xavi and Iniesta. What most people like faysal don’t know about pirlo is that when he was young he was literally another modric. A ball carrier and dribbler. A number 8. When he became older he sat deep and became a deep like playmaker. A number 6. Respect him
The fact that he was able to change his game and maintain that world class ability is insane. You don’t find many players at all doing that
pirlo for brescia, inter and ac milan was like scholes in his early days on united. more of a shooter, ball carrier, creative 8/10. only later in there career they were deep lying playmakers
The lists vids are the best
Starplayers agenda against Messi is insane
looking back at this i couldnt tell but after that world cup episode you can tell he is one of them ronaldo fanboys
The Pirlo shout is correct btw, if you're the best player on a champions league team and a world cup team, with a ridiculous career, you deserve at least a top 10 shout
Pirlo and modric are in the same category. Ppl haven’t watched young pirlo. He was a number 8 who dribbled past players and carried the ball. Very similar to modric . He became a 6 when he was old. Respect pirlo.
@@hazz2620 agreed, I think people's perception of him is actually skewed by his later Juve years where like you said he was more of a 6. He was called "the maestro" for a reason, he was a fully complete midfielder that pulled all the strings for a long, long time. He's Jorginho if Jorgi was 10x better technically and defensively and as a passer.
@@snoopraptor thank you. People forgetting how he used to dribble past players like they weren’t there and carry the ball from deep exactly like modric.
Im 21 and 2010 world cup was the first international tournament I watched as a kid and Xavi was just something else, unbelievable player
Yo love u guys
Bros explanation of the Milito pick was fire ngl
This is my fav cast setup
Faze with the entertainment and passion. Star with the unpredictability and calm. American guy, smart yet open minded which is rare.
Lyes bro.
Don't do lyes like that
@brandon you’re right😂
Lyes is not even American...
this video shows how underrated Neuer and bale are people always forget what they have done for the last 15 years
Read so many comments and watched the whole video and can’t believe Thomas muller hasn’t even had a sniff
The fact that so many of Messi’s teammates are on this list just proves even more how much he makes his teammates better compared to anyone else in the history of football you could argue for Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Neymar, Suarez even Samuel eto, Henry it’s crazy
Facts
@hfc villa literally tried to imitate messis playing style in the NT
@hfc if villa had even close to the same numbers that messi had i would agree lol, just wasnt the case
In no order
Maldini (03)
Iniesta (11)
Neuer (13)
Raul (02)
Henry (04)
Xavi (10)
Kahn (01)
Bale (14)
Suarez (15)
Lewa (20/21)
😂😂😂Faysal was genuinely shocked when ge realized Renedi had Griezzman in and mot Suarez
I hear Faysel Eden hazard always be my guy too much joy watching that guy
Torres today is closest to vardy 100%. Blistering pace in behind ( vardy is defo quicker but still ) and elite one on one finishing against keepers. Also both have a moment of excellence in them that can turn a game out of nothing
I thought so too.
Sharks, play a guess who tournament and upload the videos on the second channel, sds clips.
Likes so he can see it
"Yeah l said pirlo🤣 what you going to be about it🤣🤣🤣" obrigado my guys🤣
i think Haaland is a good comparison to Torres. Both tall, fast, run in behind, good hold up play
The Beast,Big Boss Benzema ❤🐐✨
The mad thing about this is the fact that if Benz never won the ballon dor yesterday he wouldn’t be in the top 10 to never win it