@@stackguap go watch another podcast then were they have 0 humor and just talk about football. Sds isn‘t just about football rather have Ilyas than Shaun
I agree with faysal. You have to include players you’ve never watched before or else don’t call it an ALL TIME list. It’s like asking people who the best basketball player of all time is? Most will say Jordan even though many many of those people have never seen him play and possibly only saw him on the wizards. You have to appreciate greatness
Football has existed for more than 100 years and is rich in history. Pele and Maradona are often considered two of the all time GOATs, and they played in the 60s and 80s respectively. Therefore, any all time footballing conversation needs to take into account the past decades. Nobody gives an eff whether you have watched them or not. As if anyone here has really watched the Serie A games of Maldini or Pirlo back in the day?
@@great10toes40 Nonsense, it’s just laziness to research. It takes more effort to research all the past greats (e.g. read up articles, watch footages on youtube, interviews with footballers on their idols, elder experts’ and fans’ insights, etc). It’s not that difficult.
Faysal takes some stick, but I actually thought he had the best takes in this pod. Iniesta above Zidane can only be the opinion of people who didn’t see prime Zidane.
You guys should do an all time draft where you are each given a limited budget to work with and you need to build out your squad without going in debt. Players could be valued between like 1m and 10m based on quality at their prime
@@smithswoodrookie he wasn’t deeper but gattuso was the dm. Messi wasn’t a cf he was a false 9 same way Pirlo isn’t a dm he is a deep lying playmaker there’s a difference
Definitely agree with Faysal - I do very much appreciate the entertainment and vibes illyas and Liban bring but at least for a All Time List just do a little bit of homework man and if not don’t clown the brudda who does , it is a footballing show at the end of the day ! I don’t blame them for not having him in as I myself didn’t know who Platini was before he was mentioned so will definitely look him up. All that being said : Faysal knows Ball and I miss the warriya Shaun
Agreed, it is very embarrassing to not bring up anyone before 1993 in any all time football conversations. Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Van Basten, Platini, Gerd, Zico, Gullit, Baggio etc - I don’t care whether you have watched them or not, you need to include them in the discussions, otherwise it’s meaningless.
You lot need to apologize to Faysal for consistently doubting his takes and him proving to be right time and time again. Pirlo was the deepest lying player in Milan and even for Italy Gattuso would often play slightly above Pirlo.
@hashdolo @Macky I understand what you're both trying to say, but I'm not sure you understand how football works if you think that he could be the deepest midfielder and not have defensive responsibilities. But regardless of his defensive duties, the debate was over the best 8s and 10s and he was a 6, so it doesn't matter. I personally would have included him because of his creative role as a regista, but my point was that Faysal was correct in how he was positioned.
@@michaelfvt having defensive responsibilities and being “the defensive midfielder” are two different things bud. Dont twist words to make your incorrect point correct. Almost every man in the XI has defensive responsibilities especially in midfield.
Disrespect on Kroos is crazy. 5 UCL, 6 league titles, World Cup, 5+ in FIFA best 11, was in World Cup best 11. Nobody on that list is getting these figures. Shout to Faysal for having him in
If we’re gonna judge it like that..Dani Alves is the greatest player in the history of football…stats matter, accolymatter, but overall skill and talent should outweigh the others when it comes to ranking a player all time
Please bring Shaun back… he would have been perfect for this vid because he was only one who watched football from the early 90s, would have bring good knowledge to this debate
@@madaxwayne but the difference is there's an amalgamation things Shaun has done. The racist tweets (including being racist towards Somalis) and the comments about Hillsborough.
He's a good host. There's few things I notice he does that keeps the conversation flowing and inclusive for everyone. There has to be a cut-off point as well.
Today sharks wasn’t in his best form and he said it he was tired. It actually ruined the flow and the vibes of this episode. I recommend he either films when he’s feeling to film or delay it until he gets the energy back.
i grew up watching Pirlo, my favorite player of all time. he was the deepest midfielder but literally the least defensive of the diamond. Gattuso was the dm, pirlo was the facilitator. milan and italia didnt play standard 6s and 8s. Pirlo, to me, is a true cm, not cdm, deeming him available for this list and criminal that he's 7th. top 5 cm of all time
I dont understand how everyone says that Maradona is the arguably one of, if not the greatest of all-time, yet now has him definitely as number 1. He is literally an attacking midfielder and a 10.
Mmmmm i don’t know about that. He did wear the number 10 shirt but he normally played up there with another forward and wasn’t really all that involved in the creation, he didn’t really play like a number 10. But to be honest neither did Kaká or Platini
being from germany, hearing ballack in the top 10 midfielders of all time list make me question ur ball knowledge. even if u are 25 - 30 you u have seen 10 better midfielders then him already. thats mental.
@@tschekhov_04 I deffo think there are 10 better midfielders then Ballack all time but people are weird when they talk like he was the one who lost his teams those finals..
At first I thought he lacked a lot of knowledge, but he now seems to know the most. He isn't a PL merchant like the others, knowing a lot about La Liga and the Seria A as well. He's also pretty unbiased and really stands up for his opinions. Best part of the pod
Faysal is spitting facts Andrea Pirlo only played as an advanced midfielder for Brescia and played as a deep laying playmaking 6 for the majority of his career
Faisal is on point this video. Platini absolutely deserves to be in this top 10, kroos also deserves. You don't have to call the video "all-time" if you're just gonna count the players from the late 90´s and forward.
I'm happy you guys didn't forget Kaka, his ceiling was so high, truly a shame but he still gave us amazing football. It was a tough choice between Iniesta and Zidane, for me Iniesta shaped so much of what a midfielder is, that i'd have to go with him first.
Pirlo played deep but he was a playmaker he had very few defensive duties and always played balls out and dictated the tempo. World class. Underrated by faysal
Toni Kroos was the highest rated player at 2014 world cup. Toni ran our team... Casemiro stated that Real Madrid has always played to the rhythm of Kroos.. this is insane. Faysal talk to them please
Mate Toni didn’t run no team. You had a great balance of a squad. You had ronaldo modric bale Sergio Ramos in their prime and you had the audacity to say Kroos ran the team. Bruh that guy isn’t top 10 and will never be
Toni just dident run the team at all, He always played second fiddle to modric and thats just the facts, hes just a tempo controlling midfielder with an insane passing range and insane footballing iq, Hes a top top top midfielder but 5th of all time is sick.
@@littlechungus4909 First of all.. who said 5th?? Second look what you just said. He controlled the midfield...when toni wanted us to speed up we did, when he wanted us to slow down we did, when he wanted us to switch play we did... Luka was 10 and way more offensive. Casemiro literally stated in the Kr8s doc that real Madrid has always played to rhythm of Toni
Modric 2015?? ARE YALL INSANE?! Modric was madrid’s most used player and most important player in 2013& the reason they went on to win la decima (before him they couldnt win for 12yrs). And when he got injured in 2015, that was the only time since his arrival that they got knocked out from the cl until their meltdown in 2019. In 2010, SAF named modric the best player in the premier league, period. He made spurs a constant top 4 side, they were mid table before him. In 2008, he was chosen (over iniesta) in euros team of the tournament. Even as far back as 2006, modric rose to prominence after demolishing England and Gerard & knocking them out euro qualifiers. Just cuz he was born in croatia during war& had a way tougher rode to prominence than the privileged spanish doesnt mean he wasnt always brilliant. U simply werent watching or paying attention... he didnt just suddenly get good at age 27-28 in real madrid. He always was, but y would the media pay attention to a croatian war refugee anyway.
@@H2222-e6h Kroos has achieved way more then what KDB has achieved. 5 CL, WC, 3 Bundesliga & 3 La liga. Has been playing in top level longer then KDB for like 12-13 years and KDB only for like 7-8 years
Anyone who agrees does not know ball. Because the only argument is based on trophies.. But we are talking about a player, yeah a great one but we are talking about top 10 best mids of all time. Kroos is not a generational talent, never the best player on his team, just a great player in dominant teams. If you know ball you can differ who is a better player than the other by judging impact, talent, years on top, leading teams etc etc and not only his trophycase.
This will probably be a long comment, but screw it. Solid table, however I truly believe this podcast is at its best with Starplayer, Shaun, Shakry, and then another regular (Liban, Faysal, etc.). I know Starplayer's ball knowledge is not elite and people shit on Shaun for his takes, but thats what made it great. I watch SDS not for the ball knowledge but for the interesting segments, the personalities, and the complete jokes. One of most I have laughed this year is during "Guess The Mystery Footballer" when Shaun messed up the 2/3 hints for Witsel and when one of Shaun's clues was "he was in therapy at the age of 10". The blunders, ridiculous takes, and banter made this one of the best podcasts out there. Still a great show, but the vibes are not the same as a few months back.
@@bigman9208 Sadly, Starplayer said he is done with the podcast for a while. And people are trying to cancel Shaun for some remarks that he made about the hillsborough accident. It was bad what he said, but he immediately apologized.
Yo Sharky you should upload more often, like three or four times a week instead of twice a week. This is the most enjoyable channel on YT atm so please upload more.
Xavi is definitely better than Iniesta. And this isn’t even close to the greatest list ever. Where is Bozsik, Matthaus, CRUYFF, MARADONA, Di Stefano, Sarosi, etc.
@@oscarbarriuso3667 How did you put Hierro ahead of Puyol? The best captain in history and an incredible defender. Barca have struggled to even remotely replace him after almost a decade
Modric is the definition of a perfect number 8 he can do the job of a 10 and a 6, he has better dribbling ball carrying long range passing shooting pressing tackling defensive iq speed stamina and the finesse he has on the ball to make the crazy passes and long shots he does is insane. Modric clear over Xavi 100% needs to be top 3 maybe even 2.
u don't understand, modric is showing more sides of his game than xavi, yes. but xavi is so clear in vision, passing, understanding the game and controlling it, he doesn't need to show the other sides of what he is capable of. these attributes are so clear, he is the best in his position and role ever.
I watched the strikers GOAT bracket video before this one, and its crazy how faysal is fighting for his Platini pick saying you should check your history but doesn't want R9 to win because he played before they were watching football XD
Lol it’s not, Xavi doesn’t have a single memorable moment in his career, he keeps getting hyped up by Barca fans that’s it, he got carried by Iniesta and good players around him. And don’t get this twisted if Modric wins UCL next season Iniesta wouldn’t even be in the conversation.
@@Batman1998- the only argument y’all have is Euros and WC. At club level yk Modric is clear of both. If Modric was Brazilian or German, he would be clear as well.
Özil not being in the Top 10, let alone a mention, is criminal. Recency bias will convince you to look away. In reality, he's one of, if not the best, attacking midfielder of all time. Yes, including Zidane. 4th most assists of all time.
Zidane is the greatest misfiled ever and arguably one of the best players ever. He has everything. Strong tall and maybe the best technical ability ever, outstanding dribbling and quick for a midfielder.🐐
@@MohamedFliba on god bro, he dosent have the longevity or silverware for top 10, but that that like 2011 to 2015 ozil peak was crazy. Def top 10 midfield talent of all time.
Xavi had 40 g/a in 08/09 but i’m supposed to believe he couldn’t replace modric’s spot🤣🤣🤣. You tellin me he couldn’t get similar numbers with ronaldo, benz and bale. Pure comedy
xavi couldn't fit modric's shoes even now modric is pushing 40 still performing xavi left barcelona they won a ucl straight after he was finished xavi is on the same level as kroos
@@CITYZEN. that’s blasphemous if you are really a city fan. Over the last 7 years, including his last couple years in Germany, you can’t tell me all of that doesn’t make him top 10????? that’s ridiculous.
As a Spanish Real Madrid fan, I think I'm in a good position to give an impartial take on the Zidane-Iniesta-Modric-Xavi debate. My Top 4 midfielders of all time are: 1. Zidane 2. Xavi 3. Iniesta 4. Modric Zidane is the greatest. Xavi signifies the beginning and end of the Spanish dynasty 2008-2012. Iniesta is the 2nd greatest Spanish player of all time. Modric is the most complete midfielder in the modern era.
Funny thing is that they make fun of Faysal all the time yet he literally makes the most sense out of all of them, plus he is right about Pirlo, and possibly the Xavi/Modric debate
That’s not even a hot take its just true. The whole defense belongs to the Italians basically. Midfield is dominated by Italians and attack as well probably
@@Mo_997 nah mate serie a had such great teams like napoli with maradona, juve, inter , roma with toti, Milan they had the best competition back in the day so many great teams and great rivalries
Playing deep in midfield doesnt mean you are a number 6. You can have multiple 6s, multiple 8s and multiple 10s. Its about your role on the pitch. Saying Pirlo is a 6 is a stinker. Deep lying play maker does not mean defensive midfielder. But Zizou is the goat!!
@@jwp.03 then call it top 10 midfielders we’ve watched not top 10 of all time. Plus if they cared enough about really studying football there is plenty of full match footage of these legendary players playing
@@brandao76 its not that deep bro, they just like to base it off players that have played in their generation, if u want to include players like bobby charlton beckenbauer yashin ect in best players then do so, but not everyone does
@@great10toes40 I wouldn't put him in my top 10 but dont discredit müller like that, because his playstyle isnt as elegant as özils. he created a new role with his playstyle and is one of the most important german players of the last 10 years. his attacking movement and understanding of the game are incredible.
Guys, call it central midfielders then. Back in day, wingers or the wide right/left players were considered midfielders, the game's moved on where the wide man isn't the meta anymore and these have been replaced by the wide forward.
Just want to shout out StarPlayers favourite player, Wayne Hennessey, for having his game of his life to get Wales into the World Cup 🏴🏴🏴
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Elyas straight up comedian
0% football knowledge
100% humor
he forces it way too much i hope sharky doesnt bring him back
@@stackguap go watch another podcast then were they have 0 humor and just talk about football. Sds isn‘t just about football rather have Ilyas than Shaun
@@saqet7546 awful take
@@saqet7546 facts
He was right about pirlo playing 6 tho
I agree with faysal. You have to include players you’ve never watched before or else don’t call it an ALL TIME list. It’s like asking people who the best basketball player of all time is? Most will say Jordan even though many many of those people have never seen him play and possibly only saw him on the wizards. You have to appreciate greatness
best example,
Football has existed for more than 100 years and is rich in history. Pele and Maradona are often considered two of the all time GOATs, and they played in the 60s and 80s respectively. Therefore, any all time footballing conversation needs to take into account the past decades. Nobody gives an eff whether you have watched them or not. As if anyone here has really watched the Serie A games of Maldini or Pirlo back in the day?
No but you're being dishonest then and just guessing from others input, why even debate if you're copying others opinions
@@great10toes40 Nonsense, it’s just laziness to research. It takes more effort to research all the past greats (e.g. read up articles, watch footages on youtube, interviews with footballers on their idols, elder experts’ and fans’ insights, etc). It’s not that difficult.
Faysal takes some stick, but I actually thought he had the best takes in this pod. Iniesta above Zidane can only be the opinion of people who didn’t see prime Zidane.
You guys should do an all time draft where you are each given a limited budget to work with and you need to build out your squad without going in debt. Players could be valued between like 1m and 10m based on quality at their prime
Great idea
You my friend are a genious
Genius*
I think 2000 onwards works best for these guys but yeah I'm loving the idea and thinking about how to to categorise the players. Amazing idea sir
that would be a w
Faysal is right - Pirlo was a regista from 2002, Ancelotti changed his position from when he was a number 10 at Inter
Faysal is actually right, Milan used to play a Diamond as Pirlo the deepest midfielder
Ilyas always talking out his ass
I said that last video also
Pirlo normally had two guys at least shielding him
@@kelechiyoung892 no, no he wasn’t. People are so thick.
@@smithswoodrookie he wasn’t deeper but gattuso was the dm. Messi wasn’t a cf he was a false 9 same way Pirlo isn’t a dm he is a deep lying playmaker there’s a difference
Faysal is right quite often
Definitely agree with Faysal - I do very much appreciate the entertainment and vibes illyas and Liban bring but at least for a All Time List just do a little bit of homework man and if not don’t clown the brudda who does , it is a footballing show at the end of the day !
I don’t blame them for not having him in as I myself didn’t know who Platini was before he was mentioned so will definitely look him up.
All that being said :
Faysal knows Ball and I miss the warriya Shaun
Camavinga generational
I’m not 100% on what Sean got kicked off for but damn do I miss him on this pod
3 ballon dors platini in a row
@@harveywalsh2637 racism and disrespecting the Hillsborough incident apparently
Agreed, it is very embarrassing to not bring up anyone before 1993 in any all time football conversations. Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Van Basten, Platini, Gerd, Zico, Gullit, Baggio etc - I don’t care whether you have watched them or not, you need to include them in the discussions, otherwise it’s meaningless.
You lot need to apologize to Faysal for consistently doubting his takes and him proving to be right time and time again. Pirlo was the deepest lying player in Milan and even for Italy Gattuso would often play slightly above Pirlo.
That doesn’t make him a DM though 😭😭 Gattuso was the one defending not Pirlo
He played the deepest but he wasn’t the defensive mid. His responsibilities weren’t to defend.
@hashdolo @Macky I understand what you're both trying to say, but I'm not sure you understand how football works if you think that he could be the deepest midfielder and not have defensive responsibilities. But regardless of his defensive duties, the debate was over the best 8s and 10s and he was a 6, so it doesn't matter. I personally would have included him because of his creative role as a regista, but my point was that Faysal was correct in how he was positioned.
@@michaelfvt having defensive responsibilities and being “the defensive midfielder” are two different things bud. Dont twist words to make your incorrect point correct. Almost every man in the XI has defensive responsibilities especially in midfield.
@@michaelfvt a deep lying play maker does not mean he’s a DM. Pirlo was a pure CM in terms of play-style
Disrespect on Kroos is crazy. 5 UCL, 6 league titles, World Cup, 5+ in FIFA best 11, was in World Cup best 11. Nobody on that list is getting these figures. Shout to Faysal for having him in
If we’re gonna judge it like that..Dani Alves is the greatest player in the history of football…stats matter, accolymatter, but overall skill and talent should outweigh the others when it comes to ranking a player all time
@@MaxielleSplash slaves 😭😭😭
Kroos is the most passive player of all time
Kroos is 3rd wheeler thats why, never the best midfield in his own team
@@MaxielleSplash and still remove the trophies kroos is still a top 5 central midfielder off all time
Please bring Shaun back… he would have been perfect for this vid because he was only one who watched football from the early 90s, would have bring good knowledge to this debate
Maybe is Shaun wouldn’t try dunking on the dead… he’d be allowed on
@@joshdawson5850 id agree but liban did make the exact same jokes and sharky took the piss out of the holocaust
these man have all been baited out
@@madaxwayne making those jokes at 15/16 vs 32 is a big difference
@@macky453 he made those jokes in his early 20s tbf
sharky was making these jokes since 2016 at least making him 20
not far off at all
@@madaxwayne but the difference is there's an amalgamation things Shaun has done. The racist tweets (including being racist towards Somalis) and the comments about Hillsborough.
R.I.P Shaun man can’t believe he got cancelled hope hes back soon
What happened with him?
Old racist tweets got dug up
@@HOPEOG naa it was the Hillsborogh incident he mentioned
His Mount biases is on another level
Fam, idg this cancellation shit.
Sharks needs to stop rushing everyone when they’re debating. IT’S A PODCAST!
He's a good host. There's few things I notice he does that keeps the conversation flowing and inclusive for everyone. There has to be a cut-off point as well.
Today sharks wasn’t in his best form and he said it he was tired. It actually ruined the flow and the vibes of this episode. I recommend he either films when he’s feeling to film or delay it until he gets the energy back.
@@celestial2240 I love sharky as a host but I think he needs to let people speak a bit more sometimes
Faysal knows ball. The Pirlo not playing as a 8 is spot on. Shows how bad this this pod is at knowledge if they consider Pirlo as a 8, what a shame.
Calling him a DM is harsh, he wasn’t known for his defending
@@zeinab8794 Neither is Trent, but he is still a RB
He’s a deep-lying playmaker like Busquets
@@amu5032 which is a DM
@@ichmagreis69 fax
I see Faysal and I click it’s that simple now
Faysal has been carrying 😭 these idiots have no ball knowledge
30:00 Faysal is right, Pirlo even at Milan played as the deepest out of 4 midfielders
He played 10
Your crazy he played the number 8 so where was gattuso playing because they wasn’t playing two 6’s
@@pig7763 Gattuso on the right Seedorf on the left and kaka in the 10 you fifa merchant
@@pig7763 Gattuso/Seedorf/Ambrosini always played in front of Pirlo
Rare occasion for Faysal to be right 😂
i grew up watching Pirlo, my favorite player of all time. he was the deepest midfielder but literally the least defensive of the diamond. Gattuso was the dm, pirlo was the facilitator. milan and italia didnt play standard 6s and 8s. Pirlo, to me, is a true cm, not cdm, deeming him available for this list and criminal that he's 7th. top 5 cm of all time
its
Zidane
Iniesta
Xavi /Pirlo
Modric
for me
his playing style was so unique, his elegance and intelligence on the ball is unmachted
Bro fax! New kids don't Even know who he was!
Yes when he started his career at brescia he was actually a number 10 but his manager at the time turned him into a regista
@@Lukas-sw4bb same for me but prime kaka is better than all of them except zizou. But overall yes I would have that 5 and kaka 6th
I dont understand how everyone says that Maradona is the arguably one of, if not the greatest of all-time, yet now has him definitely as number 1. He is literally an attacking midfielder and a 10.
He’s my number 1 easily
was shocked when i heard kaka was in the top 10 instead of maradona
Mmmmm i don’t know about that. He did wear the number 10 shirt but he normally played up there with another forward and wasn’t really all that involved in the creation, he didn’t really play like a number 10. But to be honest neither did Kaká or Platini
@@Bollecider The ucl wasnt even made when maradona was playing. It was called the european cup.
@@chileumadit6588 Where in the title does it say
«top 10 midfielders from the UCL era»
It’s sad about Shaun he really was one of the MCs
What happened to Shawn ?
@@robertbaynham2193 Got cancelled coz of his comments on Twitter
@@adam9ezzedine what did he say there?
@@Arararagisan blamed the Liverpool fans for the hillsbrough thing
Yeah since he left the podcast has fell off
People are talking like Ballack could stop that Zidane volley in UCL finals or John Terry missing his pen 😂
Unlucky
or those 2 goals from r9
hes just cursed
Losing 6 finals is crazy tho
being from germany, hearing ballack in the top 10 midfielders of all time list make me question ur ball knowledge.
even if u are 25 - 30 you u have seen 10 better midfielders then him already. thats mental.
@@tschekhov_04 I deffo think there are 10 better midfielders then Ballack all time but people are weird when they talk like he was the one who lost his teams those finals..
Liban is underrated, one of the funniest on the show 😂
He is THE funniest
THE FUNNIEST
does make up for his ball knowledge tbf
@@asianwarrior2193 tbh him and sharky are on level. And Ilyas is definitely bottom
Time for Faysal to carry this show on his back
Facts
That's #FactosFaysal to you and me
not having pirlo is a crime
At first I thought he lacked a lot of knowledge, but he now seems to know the most. He isn't a PL merchant like the others, knowing a lot about La Liga and the Seria A as well. He's also pretty unbiased and really stands up for his opinions. Best part of the pod
I like the others but without sean he is by far the best on the pod
Faysal is spitting facts Andrea Pirlo only played as an advanced midfielder for Brescia and played as a deep laying playmaking 6 for the majority of his career
Faisal is on point this video. Platini absolutely deserves to be in this top 10, kroos also deserves. You don't have to call the video "all-time" if you're just gonna count the players from the late 90´s and forward.
Then we'll include other midfielders no one has heard of, it's their all time top 10s if u want u include platini
I'm happy you guys didn't forget Kaka, his ceiling was so high, truly a shame but he still gave us amazing football.
It was a tough choice between Iniesta and Zidane, for me Iniesta shaped so much of what a midfielder is, that i'd have to go with him first.
For me Zidane fits that description better
Iniesta could play on the flank which is cool too
Zidane was something else.
Pirlo played deep but he was a playmaker he had very few defensive duties and always played balls out and dictated the tempo. World class. Underrated by faysal
It's funny how Faysal is actually right but they make it seem like hes wrong lmao
Toni Kroos was the highest rated player at 2014 world cup. Toni ran our team... Casemiro stated that Real Madrid has always played to the rhythm of Kroos.. this is insane. Faysal talk to them please
Mate Toni didn’t run no team. You had a great balance of a squad. You had ronaldo modric bale Sergio Ramos in their prime and you had the audacity to say Kroos ran the team. Bruh that guy isn’t top 10 and will never be
Toni just dident run the team at all, He always played second fiddle to modric and thats just the facts, hes just a tempo controlling midfielder with an insane passing range and insane footballing iq, Hes a top top top midfielder but 5th of all time is sick.
@@littlechungus4909 First of all.. who said 5th?? Second look what you just said. He controlled the midfield...when toni wanted us to speed up we did, when he wanted us to slow down we did, when he wanted us to switch play we did... Luka was 10 and way more offensive. Casemiro literally stated in the Kr8s doc that real Madrid has always played to rhythm of Toni
@@rumanali3646 You did not watch Madrid ... go look what madrid players say about him. He was maestro and always controlled rhythm and flow
@@littlechungus4909 5th is actually a disgrace, it gets worse the longer you think of it
he thinks kroos is 5th best midfielder OF ALL TIME
BRING BACK SHAUN
Crazy how underrated Roy Keane is. Scholes was never regarded as better than him until 5 after his retirement because Xavi said he studied him
Top 10 are the best videos, sad that Shaun can’t be there anymore tho
Why?
Modric 2015?? ARE YALL INSANE?! Modric was madrid’s most used player and most important player in 2013& the reason they went on to win la decima (before him they couldnt win for 12yrs). And when he got injured in 2015, that was the only time since his arrival that they got knocked out from the cl until their meltdown in 2019.
In 2010, SAF named modric the best player in the premier league, period. He made spurs a constant top 4 side, they were mid table before him. In 2008, he was chosen (over iniesta) in euros team of the tournament. Even as far back as 2006, modric rose to prominence after demolishing England and Gerard & knocking them out euro qualifiers.
Just cuz he was born in croatia during war& had a way tougher rode to prominence than the privileged spanish doesnt mean he wasnt always brilliant. U simply werent watching or paying attention... he didnt just suddenly get good at age 27-28 in real madrid. He always was, but y would the media pay attention to a croatian war refugee anyway.
Great comment
Illyas has killed me this episode, having Modric ahead of Xavi and then debating that Xavi is better, it’s the way Sharky dropped it for me 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Modric GOAT
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Kroos deserves top 10 for sure. Triple f is right here. Anyone who disagrees doesn't know ball
So KDB should be top 3 Same generation in tougher league and miles the best of his time
@@H2222-e6h Kroos has achieved way more then what KDB has achieved. 5 CL, WC, 3 Bundesliga & 3 La liga. Has been playing in top level longer then KDB for like 12-13 years and KDB only for like 7-8 years
@@YoungMoney_ Just because he played in powerhouses and has a big trophy cabinet means he is a great football legend BUT top 10 ALL TIME?
No..
Anyone who agrees does not know ball. Because the only argument is based on trophies.. But we are talking about a player, yeah a great one but we are talking about top 10 best mids of all time. Kroos is not a generational talent, never the best player on his team, just a great player in dominant teams.
If you know ball you can differ who is a better player than the other by judging impact, talent, years on top, leading teams etc etc and not only his trophycase.
@@nikosofidemporas He better then Gerrard and Scholes
This will probably be a long comment, but screw it. Solid table, however I truly believe this podcast is at its best with Starplayer, Shaun, Shakry, and then another regular (Liban, Faysal, etc.). I know Starplayer's ball knowledge is not elite and people shit on Shaun for his takes, but thats what made it great. I watch SDS not for the ball knowledge but for the interesting segments, the personalities, and the complete jokes.
One of most I have laughed this year is during "Guess The Mystery Footballer" when Shaun messed up the 2/3 hints for Witsel and when one of Shaun's clues was "he was in therapy at the age of 10". The blunders, ridiculous takes, and banter made this one of the best podcasts out there. Still a great show, but the vibes are not the same as a few months back.
Well said man, I miss Shaun and Starplayer.
@@w7n424 are they not gonna be on the podcast no more?? Or is it just this podcast that they weren’t on
@@bigman9208 Sadly, Starplayer said he is done with the podcast for a while. And people are trying to cancel Shaun for some remarks that he made about the hillsborough accident. It was bad what he said, but he immediately apologized.
@@austinsisino5559 it wasn’t just bad what he said, it was royally fucked up. It’s like blaming the Jews for dying in the holocaust
Shaun ain’t coming back after the shit he said
This podcast is dead without Shawn bring him back
Yo Sharky you should upload more often, like three or four times a week instead of twice a week. This is the most enjoyable channel on YT atm so please upload more.
1_ Iniesta
2_ Zidane
3_ Xavi
4_ Modrić
5_ Kaka
6_ Lampard
7_ Scholes
8_ Pirlo
9_ Gerrard
10_ Seedorf
Xavi is definitely better than Iniesta. And this isn’t even close to the greatest list ever. Where is Bozsik, Matthaus, CRUYFF, MARADONA, Di Stefano, Sarosi, etc.
@@renatolekaj4790that aren't midfielders
justice for shaun
No chance
Finally!!!!!
Also
A combined Barcelona and Real Madrid team would be good
Casillas Marcelo ramos hierro alves Xavi Modric iniesta zidane ronaldo messi
@@oscarbarriuso3667 How did you put Hierro ahead of Puyol? The best captain in history and an incredible defender. Barca have struggled to even remotely replace him after almost a decade
@@silverjaguar6744 also ramos and puyol won a wc together, there is some chemistry
I actually agree with faysal with the platini thing, you have to appreciate greatness
One of the best episodes ever in sds history need this lineup more often man
Bring back Shaun!
Bun Shaun the racist 🐀
Mana got canceled
This is brilliant. The banter is hilarious. Especially the chat about Platini 😂😂😂. It's like listening to my mates talk to each other.
Bring Shaun back
These guys haven't cancelled Winston Churchill for killing 8 million Indians but are cancelling Shaun for saying stuff, piss off man.
@hfc obviously he hasn't i meant the British public.
I want him to fuck public opinion and bring biased Shaun back.
This was the funniest video yet, this lineup needs to stay like this!! Man like Faysal the 🐐
If Shaun don't come back I'm revolting
He is never coming back unfortunately
Modric is the definition of a perfect number 8 he can do the job of a 10 and a 6, he has better dribbling ball carrying long range passing shooting pressing tackling defensive iq speed stamina and the finesse he has on the ball to make the crazy passes and long shots he does is insane. Modric clear over Xavi 100% needs to be top 3 maybe even 2.
u don't understand, modric is showing more sides of his game than xavi, yes. but xavi is so clear in vision, passing, understanding the game and controlling it, he doesn't need to show the other sides of what he is capable of. these attributes are so clear, he is the best in his position and role ever.
If he’s 2 he’s knocking out zidane because iniesta was much much better
Xavi and Iniesta clears Modric its not even close
Scholes is so underrated man, hes one of the best midfielders ever
I was badly waiting for this video
In my opinion, Xavi is the best midfielder of all time. I’ll rate him higher than Iniesta and Zidane
all the languages in the world, you chose to speak facts 😤
Why is the argument for Scholes always, “Zidane said this”, “Xavi said this”, “Mandela said that”.
bc other then that hes living off longevity or nostalgia lmao
he’s your favourite players favourite player 🤔🤷♂️
@@zealeck7821 my fav is messi...
@@egoattaa funny thing is messi said all barca including him studied scholes lmao
These idiots forget Keane was always rated above scholes when they played
Video idea: TOP 10 most iconic goals
I watched the strikers GOAT bracket video before this one, and its crazy how faysal is fighting for his Platini pick saying you should check your history but doesn't want R9 to win because he played before they were watching football XD
Very little about what he says isn't sincere
Modric 2nd and Xavi 7th is a HORRENDOUS take🤦🏼♂️
Lol it’s not, Xavi doesn’t have a single memorable moment in his career, he keeps getting hyped up by Barca fans that’s it, he got carried by Iniesta and good players around him. And don’t get this twisted if Modric wins UCL next season Iniesta wouldn’t even be in the conversation.
@@deucesttjds313 that is disgusting . Were even you even old enough to watch xavi
@@deucesttjds313 so u saying if mdric wins it like bale and hazard did this season he's suddenly clear of iniesta? stick to cricket
@@Batman1998- the only argument y’all have is Euros and WC. At club level yk Modric is clear of both. If Modric was Brazilian or German, he would be clear as well.
@@LuisLRC Modric doesn’t sit on the bench. He started every single UCL match this season.
Aint the same without shaun☹️
I know how good is it
Özil not being in the Top 10, let alone a mention, is criminal. Recency bias will convince you to look away. In reality, he's one of, if not the best, attacking midfielder of all time. Yes, including Zidane. 4th most assists of all time.
Calm down lad…world class player, one of the best midfielders of his generation, but top ten of ALL TIME? Nah he’s not sniffing that list.
If he’s top 10 all time so is Kdb
@@shirwahassan1346 KDB is better and will easily go down as top 10 all-time
If KDB is in top 10, Ozil is two spots ahead.
@@hannan9467cap
Zidane is the greatest misfiled ever and arguably one of the best players ever. He has everything. Strong tall and maybe the best technical ability ever, outstanding dribbling and quick for a midfielder.🐐
Him and iniesta are in a table of their own.
We need shaun back, he wouldve had david silva in his top 8, hes the only one who rates city players and gives them credit they deserve
hes racist
He would’ve been wrong to put silva anywhere near top 10
man said the credit they deserve 💀💀
so you're saying Silva is better than Gerrard?
fabregas >>>>>> silva
You know what it is about these lads, had a shit morning and this got be laughing in like 2 mins😂😂. Love this pod
Özil deserves a Shout.
He’s no where fucking near it mate.
@@MohamedAli-ii2cy for his 4-6 year peak no old school number 10 has ever had any years as good as these
@@MohamedFliba on god bro, he dosent have the longevity or silverware for top 10, but that that like 2011 to 2015 ozil peak was crazy. Def top 10 midfield talent of all time.
Xavi had 40 g/a in 08/09 but i’m supposed to believe he couldn’t replace modric’s spot🤣🤣🤣. You tellin me he couldn’t get similar numbers with ronaldo, benz and bale. Pure comedy
I think he was talking about this year
EXACTLY!
So you just making up stats eh
@@rafeedalan4324 He didn’t make it up, it’s true…well he’s off by one as Xavi actually got 41 g+a in 08/09
xavi couldn't fit modric's shoes even now modric is pushing 40 still performing xavi left barcelona they won a ucl straight after he was finished xavi is on the same level as kroos
It just don’t feel the same without Shaun 😔
Surely bring back Shaun
We need Shaun back
Racist 🐀
Love the pod but it ain't the same without Suga Shaun
xavi disrespected because he was that good you dont even notice him ran every game he played
You could say the same for Kroos if that was the case
@@oktavijan2379 aye a believe that as well kroos n modric will be respected so much more when they retire
Pirlo:
DM 529 matches
CM 45 matches
AM 14 matches
I would say time to say sorry to him once again after those GK claims
Great episode man
Kevin De Bruyne outside the top 10 is CRAZY. Especially that far outside the top 10. Rui Costa above KDB is comical
Kdb would be top 5 if he played 20 years ago cas of nostalgia merchants
@@H2222-e6h honestly, if he played for Madrid he’d be top 6 no argument
@@H2222-e6h spot on
But I dont think kdb is top 10 yet. Maybe in a few more years time.
@@CITYZEN. that’s blasphemous if you are really a city fan. Over the last 7 years, including his last couple years in Germany, you can’t tell me all of that doesn’t make him top 10????? that’s ridiculous.
As a Spanish Real Madrid fan, I think I'm in a good position to give an impartial take on the Zidane-Iniesta-Modric-Xavi debate. My Top 4 midfielders of all time are:
1. Zidane
2. Xavi
3. Iniesta
4. Modric
Zidane is the greatest. Xavi signifies the beginning and end of the Spanish dynasty 2008-2012. Iniesta is the 2nd greatest Spanish player of all time. Modric is the most complete midfielder in the modern era.
There’s absolutely no way you have Modric as the 4th best of all time
Xavi over Iniesta is sickness
I can tell you are 25+
When I was a kid xavi> iniesta was the popular opinion . I have the same exact order for those 4
Pirlo?
Finally someone giving respect to Xavi. I agree, iniest is overrated
Glad to see the Faysal Does Sports podcast alive and well. Sharky, take control of the table or relinquish it my guy.
Coz Faysal knows ball, Sharky doesn’t
bring shaun back. seems so dry without him
Funny thing is that they make fun of Faysal all the time yet he literally makes the most sense out of all of them, plus he is right about Pirlo, and possibly the Xavi/Modric debate
Hot take: all time Serie A clear of premier league all time
That’s not even a hot take its just true. The whole defense belongs to the Italians basically. Midfield is dominated by Italians and attack as well probably
I actually think serie a IS the best league all time second premier league third la liga
@@yesnyamusa5543 I know bro that's why I said Serie A clear but some of guys in the podcast are so PL biased
@@footballtime156 la Liga first bro , they have messi and cr7 💀 Serie A second
@@Mo_997 nah mate serie a had such great teams like napoli with maradona, juve, inter , roma with toti, Milan they had the best competition back in the day so many great teams and great rivalries
I love ilyas this bruddah funny 😂😂😂
Crazy how Faysal is right for most of his takes here but gets clowned by the rest like he's silly
8 years ago nobody would’ve said iniesta is better than xavi, he just has much more appealing highlight reels on RUclips
Uncancel shaun!! He is needed on the pod
David silva is mad underrated deserves top 10 conversation
Top 10 hybrid players that can play in more than one position like Ronaldinho, azpi, those players or underrated players. #bring ackshaun
Ronaldinho? What?
Fam when Ilyas hid under the table I died
Wallahi I’m shocked that few of them agreeing with Iniesta over Zidane 🤦🏻♂️
Issa fact
@@tshimomogudi51 can I ask your age ?
@@joshuaguevara1309 24
T.M.M you’re smoking something for sure
Shawn needed for these lists man
Playing deep in midfield doesnt mean you are a number 6. You can have multiple 6s, multiple 8s and multiple 10s. Its about your role on the pitch. Saying Pirlo is a 6 is a stinker. Deep lying play maker does not mean defensive midfielder.
But Zizou is the goat!!
Great to see the podcast still banging🔥 a lot of peeps tryna cancel you lots but keep doing what you lots are doing! I will stay tuning in!
take away nostalgia, de bruyne is so easily top 10
i need this exact cast lineup when you guys are doing the wingers GOAT bracket
How did people not have platini in the team. Absolutely shambolic
because they haven't watched them, they said that they were basing it off who they have watched, stats don't show everything about a player
@@jwp.03 then call it top 10 midfielders we’ve watched not top 10 of all time. Plus if they cared enough about really studying football there is plenty of full match footage of these legendary players playing
@@brandao76 its not that deep bro, they just like to base it off players that have played in their generation, if u want to include players like bobby charlton beckenbauer yashin ect in best players then do so, but not everyone does
Because they're not middle aged men
@@rafay3760 don’t need to be middle aged just need to care enough about football
Would have loved to see Ozil and Muller as mentions
ozil top 7
Ozil yes, but no Muller
@@great10toes40 Muller has better career than Ozil and better stats.....
@@peakynation use your eyes in football
@@great10toes40 I wouldn't put him in my top 10 but dont discredit müller like that, because his playstyle isnt as elegant as özils. he created a new role with his playstyle and is one of the most important german players of the last 10 years.
his attacking movement and understanding of the game are incredible.
Guys, call it central midfielders then. Back in day, wingers or the wide right/left players were considered midfielders, the game's moved on where the wide man isn't the meta anymore and these have been replaced by the wide forward.
So will Shaun not be back on the show ?
Bruh Ballacks lawyer over there in the arsenal shirt always looks at Liban to get a laugh out of him about Faisal’s takes😂😂😂
Bring back Shaun he carried SDS
1.Zidane
2.Iniesta
3.Xavi
4.Modric
5.Kaka
6.Seedorf
7.Lampard
8.Scholes
9.Vieira
10.Gerrard
Since 2000
Ilyas is goated, the man is pure vibes 😂
He’s a jokeman
1 Iniesta
2 Zidane
3 Xavi
4 Modric
5 Pirlo
6 Basquets
7 Alonso
8 Kroos
9 Silva
10 Fabregas
Faysal has really made me change how I looked at him,it could be because other ppl on the pod are worse or what
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Top 10 Football rivalies
1. Maradona
2. Zidane
3. Iniesta
4. Modric
5. Xavi
6. Platini
7. Scholes
8. Lampard
9. Kaka
10. Yaya Touré
honestly really good list
bro wtf is this list 😭 like 3 in the right place this is awful 💀
Yaya toure over viera😅
Imagine a top 10 midfielders without Matthäus lol
@@adamkhan3881 Yaya best African midfielder of all time, put some respect on his name.
Liban and Ilyas are grating with how they treat old players, bring Shaun back
Just want to shout out StarPlayers favourite player, Wayne Hennessey, for having his game of his life to get Wales into the World Cup 🏴🏴🏴