Asus ROG Flow X13 (2023) After 2 Months Review
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Now that I've daily driven the Asus ROG Flow X13 (2023) RTX 4070 13-inch laptop, I can give my two cents on it. I'll list some of the positives and negatives I've found with it, and what I like and don't like about it. All in all, it's a very compact but powerful little 2-in-1 Ultrabook.
Chapters:
0:00 My usage case
0:26 Build quality / How is it?
2:57 Performance
4:58 Software
6:37 Final verdict 
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Kudos for the elaborate "real life" review . I found you on reddit and I have to say we really appreciate a review that discusses real life use instead of just reviewing the technical aspects of the device in isolation of practical uses. No one ever talks about the limitations of the Flow X13 so people can see this and decide whether they're okay with these aspects or not.
Thank you so much :)
I think it's important to show its limitations, and let people decide whether those limitations are worth the price and form factor. That's the fun part about laptops, every model has its own ups and downs, and if price isnt a big limiting factor, there's alot of options and configurations to choose from
!DISCLAIMER!
The "chip" in the Magnesium body at the top is actually a microphone hole, meant for noise cancelation.
Thanks to Substantial-North111 for pointing that out :))
I thought the same thing when I first got it so don't feel bad lol
Thankyou so much for the update. I just ordered 4060 version of this after ur previous detailed review. I'll recieve it 2 days. Excited *.*
Oooh hype :D
Enjoy it!
How is it working out for you?
How is it after 7 months?
thanks for a great review, the edit and music are so fun to watch lol
Thank you :)
good job, touched on a lot of things I was curious about, i think i really like it.
I really enjoyed your review, even without hearing you speak at all, lol.
I hope they use vapor chamber like in z13 for the next iteration.
Thank you very much :)
Yeah it's very impressive how much it helps with dissipating heat in such a small size!
thank you, great video
The music makes me remember the dead rising mall music. Thanks or the video i am searchinf for option for upgrade my macbook pro 2012.
I have been planning and preparing to buy this X13 for almost 3 years now and Im afraid to buy this 2023 version now that 2024 is coming very soon xD But I do think this is the best X13 version to date. I have been holding and waiting since the 2021 and 2022 versions but I am fixed on this x13 2023 now. I also had a year long debate with myself and my family and friends if I should go with the 16 inch and 13 inch but ultimately decided im going with the 13 incher bec of the tablet mode. I'll just connect the laptop to bigger screens in hotel room TVs etc... But yeah the main dilemma now is that I've spent so long saving for this laptop and Im quite ready for it now but im afraid a 2024 version will come out the moment I buy this xD
I appreciate your video! You have no idea how much of a goldmine of information this is for me! My mission is almost complete! I will finally get my x13!!! Hopefully the perfect one! I appreciate all your detailed insights and this incredible review!
Nice to hear this was helpful, thanks for the kind words :))
I wouldnt wait for the 2024 refresh, since ryzen 8000 is basically a 7000 rebrand, nvidia wont be releasing rtx 5000 in 2024, and asus isnt remodelling the flow x13 after they just did it.
So going for this years model should be great 👍🏻
@@crimsontechytThank you so much for these insights. Very helpful! I think I will finally get it before Christmas! We only have the RTX 4050 version here in the Philippines (sad tho bec 4060 atleast would be 10-20% more powerful than the 4050) but I think based on your review that should be sufficient enough since I wont be able to maximize that 4070/4060 anyway unless I have more powerful power brick above 130w. I really really appreciate this, man! I am finally near my 3 year long journey to getting this laptop!
@@fathergoatman Haha great to hear, no problem. Have fun with it :)
"the small chip in the metal" is actually the factory stuff which is the noise cancelling micro.
watching from my 2022 varient, still running like new!
Sounds like a great laptop to carry around the house while working and get good battery life but can do some decent gaming if you ask it to.
That sounds like the perfect use case!
I want to buy this one, but i also want to buy a cooler, what do you think? Will it solve the temperature problem? And what cooler do you advise me to buy? Thanks a lot
hey great vid, im choosing between either this or the x16. do u think the extra 3 inches in screen size and probably the extra performance is worth? idk how this would be used as a tabletish laptop at 16 inches and idk the battery life. i would consider the z13 but that one doesn't have 32 gigs of ram. overall tho nice review and straight to the point
Thank you :)
It's only really worth it if you want a bigger display. (And it is quite a lot bigger)
The tablet function becomes pretty much useless at 16 inches though, since it's also heavier.
The Flow Z13 does come with 32GB, but that's only on the "Acronym" edition, which is alot bulkier than the standard Z13, and has a permanent weird thick pattern/case on it which makes it pretty unwieldy to use (not to mention that it's not really a laptop, since it has to support itself with an extra stand).
In short: If you like bigger laptops, get the X16
the 'chip in the metal' is one of the microphones for the noise cancelling , i got that one on my unit too :D
Another viewer mentioned it as well, I was confused by the placement :)
I am thinking of getting this for my freshman year of college and then I would not have to carry my old desktop to college. Would this be a good replacement gaming rig for a rx5700xt and a ryzen 5 3600 desktop? I know it won't be perfect but relatively similar?
It would outperform that desktop, so I'd definitely say it would be adequate for you :)
Having to wire it up everytime can be annoying, but it's a really nice replacement!
The only conern that I have with this is the IPS screen. I wish they used a LED or the new mini LED panels. In your opinion, can this be considered a deal breaker? If not I'm absolutely going to get it.
It's a *VERY* good IPS panel. One of the best I've seen on a laptop. It gets very bright, has deep blacks, and has nice contrast (which is why i thought it was a mini LED display at first).
I wouldn't worry about the display if you're on the edge of getting it, since that's one of its upsides :)
US BestBuy store has $1299 version that doesn't have dGPU -- worse screen - but think it should have similar battery life or maybe more since the screen doesn't have to drive 1440p (its a 19200x1200 screen)
Was your battery life with the dGPU off?
My battery life was with optimus on, so the dGPU only kicked in during heavy tasks (basically never)
@Crimson Tech: Is there an option to configure the backlight to turn on and off while using the keyboard? This is how it works on HP Notebooks and I am missing this function heavily on my current lenovo notebook. As I am planning on buying a new device this is a highly recommended feature for me...
Would love if you can check this. Thank you
You can set a timeout on the backlight, so it'll turn off automatically after (for example) 1 minute
@@crimsontechyt Thank you. And of course thank you for all the reviews
Thanks for the kind words :)
Bro, can u tell from your experience about the pen ? Is it good enough to take some notes especially for college. ?
The pen doesnt come with the laptop in my region, so i cant comment on that unfortunately
Good review...
One question that has been nagging my mind...
Will the rtx 4050 varient be good too??? (coupled with ryzen 9 7490HS) I want to buy it but am not sure if it will be good enough or not...
The 4050 model is pretty close to the 4070 in terms of performance, so it'll def be good too. It's about 3/4 as fast, since it wont really be limited by wattage limits :)
Hi, thanks for the review
Obviously it's a superb device.
Currently I have an aero 15 Oled and I want to replace it.
The x13 seems much more transportable and compact.
I'm afraid of the experience with the IPS screen of the x13.
Have you had the opportunity to compare the x13 screen to an Oled screen?
Hi, thanks for watching :)
It's genuinely the best IPS screen I've had so far (which is why i was convinced it was a miniLED, like on the X16).
A couple of my classmates were convinced it was an OLED, since it looked just as vibrant as their screens.
It also doesnt have any IPS glow from what I can tell, so I really wouldnt worry about it not being an OLED :)
Could be wrong: Have you heard of situations where people’s plug in devices on the XG usbc port got damaged/broken when you plug the charger on?
I heard from a friend that when they plug in the charger, the voltage in the usbc xg port changes to compatible with the xg mobile and it can damages other devices
I had an issue with the first model i received: when I plugged in a device on the right usb-c port (the one with power delivery) while the XGm was connected, the device got a shock, and DIED. I had to test it a couple of times, and eventually it turned out to be a defective unit from the factory, so i just had bad luck.
On this one it didnt have these issues, and i've never had problems since :)
(It still sucked, since Asus customer support wouldn't help me with the broken peripheral devices at all, so they're pretty useless in that area)
@@crimsontechytrip
4:00 bro why is your usb/xg port cover is gone ?
and can you charge the laptop with that usb c port ? (the left side one next to the xg mobile port)
I'm interested in this laptop but I see many reviewers charge it only with the right side usb port, it drives me nuts because that's where my mouse would beeeee!! can you confirm it wether or not you can charge it with the left usb ?
I pulled it out, since it really gets in the way just hanging there haha (you could always stick it back in though).
You can use both sides to charge it, preferably through the left one even, since the right port is a faster 4.0 port that could be better used for a dock or somth.
@@crimsontechyt nice thank you for your answer bro. I'd definitely get this laptopp
Nice review. You are missing one of the most important part of this specific line of laptop, the XG Mobile GPU. I wish you could have a review of this device plus the external GPU. Have a nice day. :)
I covered the 3080 XG Mobile in 2 of my previous video's, benchmarking it and comparing it to the internal 4070 as well :)
Unfortunately the 4090 XGm is wayyy too expensive, and not really worth it for me, so i cant really test it xd
@@crimsontechyt okay, i will check on that. Hopefully they will release 32GB of RAM for the 50's and 60's variant next year.
Yeah, a 4060 model with 32GB would def be the sweet spot, let's hope so
How about the stylus and touchscreen? will be using predominantly for work..
Unfortunately the model in my region didnt come with a stylus (i think it's asia exclusive), but the touchscreen is great with low response times (I dont know if thats the same case with the stylus though, since those work with bluetooth)
Boa música brasileira no vídeo, amigo!
muito obrigado amigo! :D
needs better KEYBOARD backlight (too bright). An RGB keyboard upgrade would be ace (can use same KB as the G14)
the tent mode is crazy 🤣
Would you recommend getting the older X13 Model with 6800hs and 3050 4GB? Is ghosting issue really a deal breaker at 1100USD?
1100 is a lot for the older model imo. The ghosting issue makes everything a blurry mess while moving around, so i wouldnt recommend it at that price.
@@crimsontechyt oh that's a bummer then, i gotta look for alternatives...
Hey there buddy,
I'm kinda between this and Macbook Pro 14 M2 Pro. I'm photographer/videographer who loves gaming too. Do you think there is huge difference between screens?
The Macbook is better with HDR content since MiniLED has way higher contrast than IPS displays, but i think the difference isnt *that* big. If you like gaming though, i wouldnt go with a macbook, as (unfortunately) its basically impossible anymore to play 99% of all games (and the ones that do run, dont run great).
Have you had a y problems with io? Trac pad etc, thanks.
The first unit i got had a defective usb-c port, but i just returned it and got a new one, so defects dont really count xd
Other than that, i've never had any issues with it. Trackpad is great, and the ports work as they should :)
Hey bro, what about the Lenovo Legion 5 Slim 14.5 OLED?, I'm deciding between this and the flow x13.
The 5 Slim is a great machine, but it's heavier than the Flow X13, and not as well built. They're about the same in terms of performance, but the X13 is alot more portable (its also smaller), and more of a premium device. The Lenovo does have more ports, and obv OLED.
It depends on if you think it's worth that extra money, if you think portability is an important thing :)
If you're on a tight budget, I wouldnt recommend getting the X13 (unless you can find it for better prices)
exactly the same what did u choose? im aswell between these 2 devices i can get Legion slim 5 for 1300€$ but Flow x13 is over 2k
Where can I find the dancing soldier in the background?
It's the Garry's Mod default dance haha
I am about to buy the flow x13 2022 model
Can i get a suggestion to buy that or to choose another one ......
It's a great laptop :)
Screen brightness is only 300 nits and the GPU is a bit lacking, but other than that it's a very nice thin and light 👍🏻
good review, i'd probably get the 4060 variant, because of its small size id feel like im leaving too much performance on the table if i get the 4070 version
They're pretty close in performance, while being quite a bit cheaper 👍🏻
@@crimsontechyt on the other hand, if i am spending that much money, i might as well just go all the way and get the 4070
Hehe if you've got the money, I'd say get the most performance our of it, and get the 4070 :)
You cant upgrade much afterwards, so its better to get the top model from the start
@@crimsontechyt Hmm I can't find a RTX 4060/32GB RAM variant in any webshop, which would have my preference too. In the NL webshop I can only find the RTX4070/32GB RAM for €2499, and in IT webshop I can only find the RTX4050/16GB for €1899. 🤯 I wish I could find a RTX4060/32GB RAM for a price somewhere in between these two.
In addition, in the DE webshop I found a RTX 4060/16GB RAM version for €2099, and an iGPU/16GB RAM for €1499. Really need that 32GB for certain work activities though. Such a shame, since I don't have extremely high GPU requirements.
I bought Lenovo IdeaPad but i'm thinking on switching to Flow x13, but i've heard complaints about fan noise. Ideapad is completely (uncanny even XD) silent most most of the time exept for demanding tasks like gaming and editing. Is flow silent when used casually, or fans are still present? Beacause i really don't want to let go of this feature
Would really appreciate answer because tommorrow is the last day i can return IdeaPad ^(
With the default Armoury Crate fan profiles, the Flow X13 is quiet most of the times in Silent mode, except when you're switching through apps quickly.
With G-Helper installed, the fans basically NEVER turn on until you start something demanding like a game :)
So it's virtually silent 99% of the time for me xd
Have you tried to undervolt the GPU ?
On my z13 flow, I managed to gain ~7% of performance (from 43 to 49 fps in re4 while minus 3° (59° instead of 62°)
I did, but I found that it screwed with the fan profiles a bit, so i turned it back to default. Ofc it varies between samples, but it's def cool!
@@crimsontechyt I use MSI afterburner to undervolt and default Fan curve in armory crate. Fan curve should be related to the temperature of your device, not the voltage 🤔
What do you think about the writing experience?? Is display latency noticeable??
I'm mostly gonna use it for coding and note taking :))
Its a great laptop :)
It has 0 noticeable latency, unless you mean with a stylus, in which case there is a *bit* of latency, which is to be expected on a windows tablet/laptop
@@crimsontechyt okayyy thanks :))
How would you compare this to the new g14 in terms of daily experience ? I'm planning to get one of these as an engineering student who will game occasionally and I already have a tablet for taking notes. What would you recommend ?
They're VERY similar.
The positives of the G14:
- Bigger screen
- OLED
- (Slightly) faster GPU
- Upgradeable large M.2 storage
Positives of the X13:
- Smaller
- Touchscreen
- Thinner and lighter
If you care about touch and portability, go with the X13. If you dont, go for the G14 :)
@@crimsontechytThanks for the reply! :) I have two more things I'd like to know: which one has better battery life (if you experienced any significant difference) and better build quality overall (durability wise)? I'd like to keep it as my main laptop for at least 4 years without significant heating issues, broken parts etc.
@amineb9933 The X13 has SLIGHTLY better battery life, but not anything you would notice.
I think build quality is also slightly better on the X13, but only because the display is a lot more flexible, and it's a bit thinner (so more compactly built), but again, not too noticeable.
They're both very well built, and the points i mentioned previously have more influence.
@@crimsontechytI see. Thank you so much for the helpful info and your videos!
do you have any recommendation for a 1000€/$ laptop? i cant find a proper review
It really depends on your use case, what size you'd like, what features you prefer, and which region you're in
If you were to only use this laptop for simple music, production, and day-to-day use, it would kill it then correct?
Absolutely :)
This thing is really expensive for it's pretty middle of the road specs. what made you choose this over other options like the Asus G14?
Mainly for the better build quality, lower weight, smaller size, usb-c charging, and glossy display. The G14 also isnt available with anything higher than a 4060 in my country (and it's almost as expensive.
These are the highest end specs you can find in a 13 inch laptop, so a top end ryzen 9 and 32gb are def high end if you ask me :)
@@crimsontechyt Usb c charging is nice The device looks nice aswell, but for $1000, the macbook air m2 does just about anything a regular person could throw at it with ease and way better battery life, plus then you have over $1500 left for a game console, steamdeck, rog ally, even another laptop or desktop pc. Either way, enjoy! I would even consider one if it had the anime matrix of the G14s.
If Macbooks had support for all programs, and had actual GPUs, they def would be the best devices around. But right now they are just unusable for anyone wanting to game or do enterprise work.
The flow x13 is def expensive, but it does everything multiple devices can all in one, while staying small and compact. It's a luxury item for sure
@@crimsontechytyou can’t play on the G14 with the hot ass keyboard
I've heard issues about that. Is it still a problem in the 2023 model?
Do you feel x13 is a bit too small for gaming?
Idk, i have never played pc games on a 13 inch display
You do need to squint a bit or sit closer to the screen if you want to see further in bigger games. It's pretty hard to spot snipers in Battlefield 1 in those huge maps for example 🙃
But for smaller games like counter-strike, its pretty manageable
Thanks for letting me know. One of the best neat review videos i hav watched.
Btw i was interested in 2022 model coz of the price, found out it has a really small trackpad.
So do u hav any recommendations for a budget wireless mouse usable for both college work and gaming?
@@shreyasjayan5205 Thank you very much :D
I use the Razer Deathadder V3 Pro myself, but only because I like the shape and switches.
For a cheaper option, I'd go for the Steelseries Rival 3 Wireless. It's only like 30 bucks, and has very little input delay :)
Hi there, if i was able to get it for $1200 AUD would it be worth?
For the 2023 version, yes.
@@crimsontechyt with only integrated gpu and 2023 model?
While the iGPU is pretty weak in gaming, the rest of the laptop is definitely worth 1200 AUD. I'd prefer the model with a GPU, but if you dont do much gaming, this one is a very nice option
I have a budget 1l i need a laptop can anyone suggest any gaming laptop for me.
would you say it is built like a macbook?
Yes. It's exceptionally sturdy.
Does this have access to steam
Yes, it does
u have to make one more video about this laptop 😭 😭
Haha I already have like 4 of them 🥲
oh damn.. i was just in love with the laptops that i got bored of the videos LMAO @@crimsontechyt
Can we upgrade RAM to 32Gb in 4050 or 4060 RTX série by changing 2x8Gb RAM to 2x16Gb ?
No, the Flow X13 does not have upgradeable RAM unfortunately. Only the 4070 version comes with 32GB ram. The only parts you can upgrade are the SSD, and the WIFI card
@@crimsontechyt thank you very much, it will be useful for me to know this crucial information, because I use softwares who need 32Gb as minimum
What's the price?
It's around 2000€
I have 2022 model its not that good. It overheats alot and while playing games in normal mode it shuts down on its own. Sometimes while booting it shutsdown. IDK what the problem is ...
That's def an overheating problem. Normally chips downclock themselves when they're too hot to prevent overheating, but there must be something wrong with your cooling system (or a defect), that prevents it from cooling even a downthrottled chip.
Do you still have warranty on it?
@@crimsontechyt nope. So basically my laptop had a blue screen error. I gave it to bestbuy they sent it to asus for repair under warranty. They had to factory reset it. But after that also this issue is there. If i do gaming i do it in tent mode only. But sometimes this booting issue still occurs! Now the warranty is also over. Did i receive a defective unit ?
It could very well be a defect, Asus doesn't have the best track record on warranty returns and RMA...
The only thing you could try is to do a clean Windows install on it from a USB, and manually install all necessary drivers yourself.
If that doesnt work, i'm afraid it's a defect
@@crimsontechyt well thanks for your input. Will look into this. Btw amazing detailed review dude 💯
Thank you :D
nice
I went for the g14
Cause guess what
It went out of stock just when i was about to order it
The x13 went out of stock I mean
Oooh nice choice! Which model did you get? :o
Pretty sure urs rtx 4070 is not 100w variant. Its most likely around 60w
Yes, this 4070 is capped to 45+15w
Continuenlikr this :D
I will :))
Tweakers!
getting this for med school w gaming on the side 🫡🫡
Damn, that'll definitely suit your needs! Enjoy it :)
Love that battery .PNG
I got more focused on png's 🥲😆