When I was a kid we had a 20 cal shotgun that was a rebored 50 cal Remington rifle with a rolling lock. We still had black powder cartridges for it. This was in the 50's.
Beautiful old hand cannon you got there. The rolling block design was certainly a good one. Not as much recoil as I would have expected. Thanks for sharing.
Good one, Doc! Gotta love rolling blocks. I enjoy watching you work. You allways have some clever tricks up your sleeve. I especially liked how you expanded the brass with your drillpress. Every time I watch your videos, I wish we were neigbours!
Hei min nabo, men jeg skulle ønske du var nærmere geografisk! Did you have the same model as mine. I must say it was an experience to shoot it. She sure is a belcher. Fire and brimstone ! Regards.....Doc
Yup, same model. Purdiest of all the rolling block pistols, in my humble opinion. Sold that one too... Not sure what they were thinking, issuing single shot pistols, in the cartridge revolver era. Must have been just to please us guncollectors 150 years on down the line! Regards....... John & Dimwit.
In Belgium a double barrel block pistol was given to Police/ Gendarmerie, an Imperial Russian palace unit also used doublebarrel blockpistols. And bavarian M69 Werder pistol in 11,5 mm was also block pistol.
@@dr.durellshepard398 : According to a german arms magazine/ Waffenzeitschrift years ago, i am german , unly using my girlfriend Brittas Computer, the Werder pistols had been in service by some rural bavarian policemen up to 1919! In wwl german armies needed as much modern pistols as possible, so they often took modern Police pistols and gave Police dated revolvers M79/M83, the socalled Reichsrevolver, and in Bavaria even some Werder pistols. This was possible, because formerly in Germany policemen had much authority, in large contrast to nowadays, and IT needed until 1913, that all german policemen had s pistol/revolver in addition to their sabers. In 1871 new German Empire decided, to adopt Mauser M71 as new service weapon, at this point bavarian troops had only partly eqipped with belgian made, but not invented, Werder weapons, so bavarian Gouvernement stopped the contract, and the rifles and carbines became used by Police, Border guards, Prison guards or Forrest personal.
Hello Sir, Glad that you found it interesting. You may also enjoy: "Shooting .32 rimfire and .32 extra long rimfire Remington rolling block rifles" on the Steve Blancard channel. In several of his gun videos he shows how to make .32 RF cases etc. Regards.....Doc
Merci pour votre réponse et ces quelques mots en français. So, this handgun is accurate at 35 yards and it’s impressive. Always glad to see original fire arms in good conditions. Best regards from France 🇫🇷.
Great video, nice to see someone shoot one. I was the owner of the 1865 Navy commercial model, 1867 Navy model and the 1871 Army model, but being in the state of NY you could own them, but if you wanted to shoot them they had to be on your pistol permit. If you put them on your permit you could only sell them to a dealer or another pistol permit holder. It's all water under the bridge now, they have new owners, can't keep them forever.
Good afternoon Mathew, good to hear from you. Sorry you never got to shoot yours, for all the wrong reasons. Foolish and inconsistent laws. It was a hoot to shoot. Best regards...Doc
Ok this may well be my new favorite video of yours that thing is sweet! Could i ask what powder charge and bullet weight was.... that thing looks like it gives the walker a run for its money
Hello Garrett, Glad you could join me on this adventure. Cases were 50-70 cut down, bullet was a 355 grain Lee-Smith bullet at .513", Swiss FFg at 25 grains. The bullet is heavier than normal but I had them in stock. But this combination seemed to work for an impromptu shooting session. Happy Shooting.....Doc
A really excellent in depth view of this interesting pistol, I cannot see that these had much service use as by that time there were many other options available, but they were made in good numbers, so they must have gone somewhere? Maybe they were used for target practice sessions, this example is in very good condition, did they all get sold on the the Bannerman outlet? Many thanks for posting this! Chris B.
Hi Chris, and thanks for the kind critique. I think they were issued even though they were way behind the times at that point. I see that Bannerman did discuss them but I did not see where he offered them for sale. ??? Regards....Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 On giving this pistol some more thought I wonder if the perceived "disadvantage" of a single shot pistol is actually factual, it would be interesting to compare the speed that 12 aimed shots fired from a Colt 1873 with this pistol, the loading and ejection on the Colt is really slow, and although 6 shots are relatively fast this pistol has very good extraction, and the action is ready cocked for the next shot, so it may be that over 12 shots they are equal, there is of course some technique involved in both pistols. Stay safe! Chris B.
I've got a Uberti repo in .22 Hornet. It's prettier than yours but no where near as cool. I like your case annealing set up. That thing sure spews a lot of burning powder, I like it. Thanks for posting another interesting video Doc.
@@Walter-wo5sz No, it shoots to the sights. But the .22 Hornet cases are pretty fragile and don't hold up very well to repeated reloadings. I wish mine was in .357.
with black powder, you practically don't need reloading charts. You need to seat the bullet in the empty case so that the bullet goes into the chamber. The entire remaining volume must be filled with gunpowder. The important thing is that there is no empty space. In case the weight is too large (in case of large cartridges), you can use additional inert filler, semolina, etc. I apologize for my English, I hope everything is clear.
Hello Mr. Ford, I draw up a data sheet, on auto-cad, on every antique gun I shoot. It tells me in the future what components I used and in what combination, and the results.
Hello Mr. Snapper, and thanks for commenting. I would like to mention also, that I found a really nice Box Turtle on my walk in the woods the other day. Happy Shooting. .......Doc
@dr.durellshepard398 glade to hear from you Dr. I am jealous of the beauty of your surroundings. I hope all is well with you and yours. Did you see any baby snapping turtles hatch this year?
@@snappers_antique_firearms Unfortunately, the Raccoons dug out most of the eggs this year, as the Snapper and Paint turtles didn't let me see where they laid their eggs so I could protect them. But I did see babies of both types in the pond later in the summer, so there is still hope.
Меня скрыли от публичного просмотра, но я провожу исследование для своего следующего видео. Он должен выйти примерно через две недели. Спасибо, что написали мне о своих опасениях. Доктор
@@СергейСКАНКПАНКС сожалением вынужден признать, что мое последнее видео было запрещено в России из-за песни, которую я использовал на заднем плане. ( After The Fire - Der Kommissar )
@@dr.durellshepard398 к сожалению в последнее время ютуб этим стал печально известен... 🤬 у меня подписчиков-то 3 человека в шесть рядов и то почти треть роликов в той или иной степени где-то недоступна, поэтому с ютуба все и разбегаются на всякие дурацкие "тик-токи" 😎
I thoroughly enjoyed this. I would love to see that re issued in modern calibers. It's a sweety. Just tell me you didn't end up crimping that brass with your teeth.
I will never understand why the US went back to a single shot pistol, unless they were only for target practice. Did any of these see any combat use? They seem to have the recoil of a Howdah pistol. Can they fire reduced loads accurately? I am glad you have an original instead of the Navy Arms pieces of junk in .357 mag. They were a scam if there ever was one.
@@robertrobert7924 I'll probably keep it the way it is. I have been shooting black powder .38 special loads out of it, just for fun and at close range. Oh well.....
When I was a kid we had a 20 cal shotgun that was a rebored 50 cal Remington rifle with a rolling lock.
We still had black powder cartridges for it. This was in the 50's.
Those were definitely the good old days! Sounds like great fun.
Beautiful old hand cannon you got there. The rolling block design was certainly a good one. Not as much recoil as I would have expected. Thanks for sharing.
Hello Sir, and thanks for your comment. Yes, the rolling block is brilliant in its simplicity and strength, a great design. Best regards....Doc
Good one, Doc! Gotta love rolling blocks. I enjoy watching you work. You allways have some clever tricks up your sleeve. I especially liked how you expanded the brass with your drillpress. Every time I watch your videos, I wish we were neigbours!
Hei min nabo, men jeg skulle ønske du var nærmere geografisk! Did you have the same model as mine. I must say it was an experience to shoot it. She sure is a belcher. Fire and brimstone ! Regards.....Doc
Yup, same model. Purdiest of all the rolling block pistols, in my humble opinion. Sold that one too... Not sure what they were thinking, issuing single shot pistols, in the cartridge revolver era. Must have been just to please us guncollectors 150 years on down the line! Regards....... John & Dimwit.
Cool pistol. Thanks for the video.
Thank you Sir, for watching and commenting......Doc
In Belgium a double barrel block pistol was given to Police/ Gendarmerie, an Imperial Russian palace unit also used doublebarrel blockpistols. And bavarian M69 Werder pistol in 11,5 mm was also block pistol.
Thank you for the interesting comparison. Werder pistol was a clever design.
@@dr.durellshepard398 : According to a german arms magazine/ Waffenzeitschrift years ago, i am german , unly using my girlfriend Brittas Computer, the Werder pistols had been in service by some rural bavarian policemen up to 1919! In wwl german armies needed as much modern pistols as possible, so they often took modern Police pistols and gave Police dated revolvers M79/M83, the socalled Reichsrevolver, and in Bavaria even some Werder pistols. This was possible, because formerly in Germany policemen had much authority, in large contrast to nowadays, and IT needed until 1913, that all german policemen had s pistol/revolver in addition to their sabers.
In 1871 new German Empire decided, to adopt Mauser M71 as new service weapon, at this point bavarian troops had only partly eqipped with belgian made, but not invented, Werder weapons, so bavarian Gouvernement stopped the contract, and the rifles and carbines became used by Police, Border guards, Prison guards or Forrest personal.
Thanks for posting this video I own a target rolling block in .32 rim fire. Only have a half box of ammo so I don’t shoot it much but it Shute is fun
Hello Sir, Glad that you found it interesting. You may also enjoy: "Shooting .32 rimfire and .32 extra long rimfire Remington rolling block rifles" on the Steve Blancard channel. In several of his gun videos he shows how to make .32 RF cases etc. Regards.....Doc
This was a nice video. Thank you for documenting these interesting pieces
Thank you for viewing and commenting, it was my pleasure. ...Doc
Thank you Doctor, merci beaucoup Docteur !
How far is your target please ?
It seems an accurate handgun.
Thank you for watching and commenting. My target is à peu près 32 meters ( 35 yards ). Salutations des États-Unis
Merci pour votre réponse et ces quelques mots en français. So, this handgun is accurate at 35 yards and it’s impressive. Always glad to see original fire arms in good conditions.
Best regards from France 🇫🇷.
Thank you, Doctor.
Good afternoon Mark. I'm pleased that you could join me on the shoot! Best regards....Doc
Great video, nice to see someone shoot one. I was the owner of the 1865 Navy commercial model, 1867 Navy model and the 1871 Army model, but being in the state of NY you could own them, but if you wanted to shoot them they had to be on your pistol permit. If you put them on your permit you could only sell them to a dealer or another pistol permit holder. It's all water under the bridge now, they have new owners, can't keep them forever.
Good afternoon Mathew, good to hear from you. Sorry you never got to shoot yours, for all the wrong reasons. Foolish and inconsistent laws. It was a hoot to shoot. Best regards...Doc
It’s a shame gun laws are written primarily by people who know nothing about guns.
Absolutely beautiful Gun! Thanks for sharing!
Hello Sir, Glad you came along on the shooting adventure. She shot well. Regards...Doc
Ok this may well be my new favorite video of yours that thing is sweet!
Could i ask what powder charge and bullet weight was.... that thing looks like it gives the walker a run for its money
Hello Garrett, Glad you could join me on this adventure. Cases were 50-70 cut down, bullet was a 355 grain Lee-Smith bullet at .513", Swiss FFg at 25 grains. The bullet is heavier than normal but I had them in stock. But this combination seemed to work for an impromptu shooting session. Happy Shooting.....Doc
@dr.durellshepard398 thank you very much it looks like a ton of fun
That’s some big smoke Doc, reminds me of my harpers ferry!
Yes Sir, almost as much smoke as a flintlock ! Please describe your Harper's Ferry, I'm not familiar with it, Thanks so much ....Doc
Really Interesting Pistol 🔫 Doc Love The Video as I Do With All Of Them 😀😊❤️👍🏼
Hi Chris, and thanks so much.....Doc (º¿º ) [ old guy "emotion icon"]
Another great video thank you
Thanks so much, I'm pleased that you found it interesting.....Doc
A really excellent in depth view of this interesting pistol, I cannot see that these had much service use as by that time there were many other options available, but they were made in good numbers, so they must have gone somewhere? Maybe they were used for target practice sessions, this example is in very good condition, did they all get sold on the the Bannerman outlet? Many thanks for posting this! Chris B.
Hi Chris, and thanks for the kind critique. I think they were issued even though they were way behind the times at that point. I see that Bannerman did discuss them but I did not see where he offered them for sale. ??? Regards....Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 On giving this pistol some more thought I wonder if the perceived "disadvantage" of a single shot pistol is actually factual, it would be interesting to compare the speed that 12 aimed shots fired from a Colt 1873 with this pistol, the loading and ejection on the Colt is really slow, and although 6 shots are relatively fast this pistol has very good extraction, and the action is ready cocked for the next shot, so it may be that over 12 shots they are equal, there is of course some technique involved in both pistols. Stay safe! Chris B.
I've got a Uberti repo in .22 Hornet. It's prettier than yours but no where near as cool. I like your case annealing set up. That thing sure spews a lot of burning powder, I like it. Thanks for posting another interesting video Doc.
I've got the uberti in 357. Does yours shoot real low with original sights? Mine is almost 2 feet low at 50 feet.
.22 Hornet is certainly a nice little round, I never had the pleasure of shooting a Uberti re-pro of which you speak. Glad you enjoyed the show....Doc
@@Walter-wo5sz No, it shoots to the sights. But the .22 Hornet cases are pretty fragile and don't hold up very well to repeated reloadings. I wish mine was in .357.
Liked your annealing rig
Good morning Patrick. As cheap and simple as can be. Thank you for commenting. ...Doc
Another beautiful piece, thank you. Where do you find your reloading data papers? That’s an awesome idea.
with black powder, you practically don't need reloading charts.
You need to seat the bullet in the empty case so that the bullet goes into the chamber. The entire remaining volume must be filled with gunpowder. The important thing is that there is no empty space. In case the weight is too large (in case of large cartridges), you can use additional inert filler, semolina, etc.
I apologize for my English, I hope everything is clear.
Hello Mr. Ford, I draw up a data sheet, on auto-cad, on every antique gun I shoot. It tells me in the future what components I used and in what combination, and the results.
Thank you for the video sir ... very cool pistol
Hi Alex, I'm glad that you enjoyed the presentation, It was lots of fun to shoot this one. ...Doc
Excellent video. What bullet were you using. I like the Hornady Black Powder 50 Caliber, 240Gr Pa Conical in mine.
Hello Just, Glad you get to shoot yours. I was using a heavier 355 grain Lee-Smith bullet as I had a can full of them. Worked OK. Regards....Doc
Nice case mouth expander 😉👍🇺🇸🦨
What ever works,.........generally works. Regards....Doc
Very cool
Hello Mr. Snapper, and thanks for commenting. I would like to mention also, that I found a really nice Box Turtle on my walk in the woods the other day. Happy Shooting. .......Doc
@dr.durellshepard398 glade to hear from you Dr. I am jealous of the beauty of your surroundings. I hope all is well with you and yours. Did you see any baby snapping turtles hatch this year?
@@snappers_antique_firearms Unfortunately, the Raccoons dug out most of the eggs this year, as the Snapper and Paint turtles didn't let me see where they laid their eggs so I could protect them. But I did see babies of both types in the pond later in the summer, so there is still hope.
@dr.durellshepard398 o that is unfortunate but glade to hear some did make it. Hopefully next year's Clutch won't be found by the Raccoons
To think that the U.S. cavalry even considered arming some troopers with this pistol, along with a saber, was just ludicrous.
There were absolutely better ones at that time.
Давно Вас нет, пересматриваю старые ролики... 🧐
Меня скрыли от публичного просмотра, но я провожу исследование для своего следующего видео. Он должен выйти примерно через две недели. Спасибо, что написали мне о своих опасениях. Доктор
@@dr.durellshepard398 как это скрыли? Забанили? За что?! 🧐 у Вас идеальный контент, который Вы делаете сами, что могло не угодить ютубу на этот раз?!
@@СергейСКАНКПАНКС сожалением вынужден признать, что мое последнее видео было запрещено в России из-за песни, которую я использовал на заднем плане.
( After The Fire - Der Kommissar )
@@dr.durellshepard398 к сожалению в последнее время ютуб этим стал печально известен... 🤬 у меня подписчиков-то 3 человека в шесть рядов и то почти треть роликов в той или иной степени где-то недоступна, поэтому с ютуба все и разбегаются на всякие дурацкие "тик-токи" 😎
@@СергейСКАНКПАНКДа, я понимаю. Очень грустный.
I thoroughly enjoyed this. I would love to see that re issued in modern calibers. It's a sweety.
Just tell me you didn't end up crimping that brass with your teeth.
Apparently Navy Arms did re-produce some, but they got mixed reviews. My dentist only lets me crimp plastic shot shell these days. Regards...Doc
I will never understand why the US went back to a single shot pistol, unless they were only for target practice. Did any of these see any combat use? They seem to have the recoil of a Howdah pistol. Can they fire reduced loads accurately? I am glad you have an original instead of the Navy Arms pieces of junk in .357 mag. They were a scam if there ever was one.
Hey, did you just call my Navy Arms .357 mag R.B. pistol a piece of junk!!!.....LOL.....I think you are right!
@@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike Have you ever been able to get it to fire accurately ?
Have you ever considered sleeving the barrel to some other cartridge?
@@robertrobert7924 I'll probably keep it the way it is. I have been shooting black powder .38 special loads out of it, just for fun and at close range. Oh well.....
Hello Robert, I think they sold about 5,000 to the US govt., properly used in the Indian wars to knock down painted ponies.