I picked up one about a year ago. I made one cartridge from a brass 24 gauge shotgun shell. I had trouble getting the taper right to chamber. Fired that one case a few times and I have not had time to reform the other 24. Got busy and put it aside. I need to work on it again soon. Thanks for the inspiration.
Hi Lars and welcome aboard. For most of my .58 guns I resize in a Snider die. That gets me close. My gun also wanted the larger diameter rim of a Snider case. The gun was well behaved and a lot of fun to shoot. Happy 4th..........Regards Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 I don’t have a Snider die but I found a Morse taper socket that is close. I have used rubber O-rings instead of the copper wire to get proper headspace for 43 Spanish. Not critical on size since they compress when you close the breech. I did that for a Peabody instead of a rolling block. Thanks again for the video.
After I aquired my Snider Musket and Carbine, this .58 RRB was next on my list. Unfortunately, I never found one. Sure am glad that you did so I could watch this video.
I had to recheck my RB to see what my chambering was because of your video. My gun is most definitely in .58Roberts. I heard some were chamber in Berdan and was hoping mine was when I bought it. I don't have the primer issue though.Good shooting doc, have a good 4th.
Hi Hunter, Hope your shooting is going well. All these early 58s are very confusing as they are very close to one another, but just off enough to negate interchangeability. I believe that my Berdan in a morphed 58 Gatling, as that is the only one I can find with the proper "fat" rim thickness. And a happy 4th to you as well. Regards......Doc
Brilliant video, thank you. Making those cases and applying a free floating copper ring ahead of the rim is quite an operation, Doctor, especially given the patient is thriving. Thank you for the video of the Pileated Woodpecker, they are shy birds in my area, although I hear them calling occasionally.
Hello Mark, Glad you could come along on the shoot. This gun was a surprising and pleasing experience. Very well behaved. As for the Pileated , they raised there family in this tree just behind the garden. We got to watch the entire sequence of nesting and feeding their two little ones. Best wishes for the holiday.......Doc
Nice video. .58 cal that is a big bullet going down range. Very convenient that it is a CF. Much easy to reload. There were some really interesting recycling/re-manufacturing done to convert old technology into the new technology of the time. Nice Pileated Woodpecker at the end.
Yes Sir, Big rim fires coupled with the black powder is a lot of extra work. I have a few more conversions I want to shoot, as you say, very interesting developments. As for the Pileated, They built their nest just outside our garden a few years back, so we got to watch them all through raising their chicks, great fun. Regards....Doc
Good morning Doc, I just finished rewatching the Remington trans video. I've got a soft spot for the rolling block, it was my first bpc rifle. Mine is not a rare cool version like yours, but a 60's Numrich conversion of a military Remington to a 45-70 sporter. The copper ring thing was very clever, I'd still be scratching my head on how to mitigate that issue. Watching the bore scope reminded me I've got an upcoming colonoscopy appointment! Keep splitin' that firewood, Gp
Hi Gp, I'll have my girl send over the insurance forms tomorrow. I will do your procedure for half price ! If you are trying to contact the office, I an no longer listed under "Nick the Bowel"
@@dr.durellshepard398 Thanks for the offer Doc, I've been waiting a year for this appointment. The doctor says he is backed up, butt can find an opening. Gp
Another fun video Doc, thanks. I enjoyed use of the borescope too. Its neat to see what's happening inside. I really enjoy shooting my .58 rolling block too. After I had a mold enlarged to cast a .595" diameter minie, it shoots really well.
Hi Steve, The bore scope reassured me that I was ballpark with my cases. My case could be a hair longer as I could see the demarcation line of throat erosion just ahead of my test case. You are the culprit that got me hooked on the 58 Rolling blocks, I really enjoyed your presentation. .................Doc
Waiting on that Ilion New York plant, to start pumping out those Legendary Pump 7600’s again, and according to them, they should start in the first quarter of 2023! I’ve been hunting with a 760 Game Master .308 since I was 12, and I’m now 34, I just found out it was made at the plant in 1963. I also have a couple 7600s, one is 30-06, and the other is 35 Whelen, and there is no better hunting rifle out there than the 760 or the 7600 period. Remington For Life!
Another fine presentation of your .58 Rolling Block. Happy 4th, Doc. I have a few smoke poles here to make some noise in celebration. 😉. Best regards, Steve
Hi Chris, Yes 58 caliber, the only other place on this planet where size matters! I love the CW hardware too Chris, the evolution is so diverse. Happy 4th, ..Doc
Hola Antonio, tal vez mi arma tenía una recámara para nuestra ametralladora gatling calibre 58 militar, ya que tendría el diámetro de borde adecuado sin los anillos de cobre, pero ese es un cartucho muy raro. Gracias por apoyar mi canal. Los mejores deseos. Doc ((You have solutions for all DR, I really liked the solution for the sheaths with the copper rings. Greetings from Toledo Spain.)) ((Hi Alberto, Perhaps my gun was chambered for our military 58 caliber Gatling gun as that would have the proper rim thickness without the copper rings, but that is a very rare cartridge. Thank you for supporting my channel. Best wishes. Doc))
Hey thanks again Doc. This may sound funny but the old timers in my Black Powder Club say cleaning your used Brass with liquid Ultra "Dawn" detergent works the best. I laughed when I first heard that but, then I compared other detergents, and yes they all work, but "Dawn" seemed to work the Best! Maybe my brain just wanted to think that because that is what my members told me or maybe they just wanted to see if I would go out and purchase different detergents and spend money 🤣. I don't know but, I can tell you that "Ultra Dawn" (The Blue Stuff) works Great! Take Care Doc, thanks again.
Hi Jeff, When I was a young guy, they told me to soak them in a gallon of prop wash !!! So one must be careful as to what you go into a store and ask for. I totally agree with you about the blue Dawn, I do use it in my second soak. Happy 4th, shoot something big and noisy ! ....Doc
I picked up one about a year ago. I made one cartridge from a brass 24 gauge shotgun shell. I had trouble getting the taper right to chamber. Fired that one case a few times and I have not had time to reform the other 24. Got busy and put it aside. I need to work on it again soon. Thanks for the inspiration.
Hi Lars and welcome aboard. For most of my .58 guns I resize in a Snider die. That gets me close. My gun also wanted the larger diameter rim of a Snider case. The gun was well behaved and a lot of fun to shoot. Happy 4th..........Regards Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 I don’t have a Snider die but I found a Morse taper socket that is close. I have used rubber O-rings instead of the copper wire to get proper headspace for 43 Spanish. Not critical on size since they compress when you close the breech. I did that for a Peabody instead of a rolling block. Thanks again for the video.
Great old rolling block! I love cruising through Illion, sometimes I think of what it looked like in the 1850-90’s
Hello Sir, Yes, very nostalgic. I do the same in Hartford and Springfield ! .................Doc
After I aquired my Snider Musket and Carbine, this .58 RRB was next on my list. Unfortunately, I never found one. Sure am glad that you did so I could watch this video.
Glad to oblige Sir, but the cleanup is still a pain !...................Doc
I’m a Remington Man through and through
Amen, Brother !
58 caliber centerfire cartridges in a Rolling Block, what's not to love! Thanks for sharing, Doc!
Hi John, (save for the black powder )...... I couldn't have said it better..........Doc
I had to recheck my RB to see what my chambering was because of your video. My gun is most definitely in .58Roberts. I heard some were chamber in Berdan and was hoping mine was when I bought it. I don't have the primer issue though.Good shooting doc, have a good 4th.
Hi Hunter, Hope your shooting is going well. All these early 58s are very confusing as they are very close to one another, but just off enough to negate interchangeability. I believe that my Berdan in a morphed 58 Gatling, as that is the only one I can find with the proper "fat" rim thickness. And a happy 4th to you as well. Regards......Doc
Brilliant video, thank you. Making those cases and applying a free floating copper ring ahead of the rim is quite an operation, Doctor, especially given the patient is thriving. Thank you for the video of the Pileated Woodpecker, they are shy birds in my area, although I hear them calling occasionally.
Hello Mark, Glad you could come along on the shoot. This gun was a surprising and pleasing experience. Very well behaved. As for the Pileated , they raised there family in this tree just behind the garden. We got to watch the entire sequence of nesting and feeding their two little ones. Best wishes for the holiday.......Doc
Nice video. .58 cal that is a big bullet going down range. Very convenient that it is a CF. Much easy to reload. There were some really interesting recycling/re-manufacturing done to convert old technology into the new technology of the time. Nice Pileated Woodpecker at the end.
Yes Sir, Big rim fires coupled with the black powder is a lot of extra work. I have a few more conversions I want to shoot, as you say, very interesting developments. As for the Pileated, They built their nest just outside our garden a few years back, so we got to watch them all through raising their chicks, great fun. Regards....Doc
Good morning Doc, I just finished rewatching the Remington trans video. I've got a soft spot for the rolling block, it was my first bpc rifle. Mine is not a rare cool version like yours, but a 60's Numrich conversion of a military Remington to a 45-70 sporter. The copper ring thing was very clever, I'd still be scratching my head on how to mitigate that issue. Watching the bore scope reminded me I've got an upcoming colonoscopy appointment! Keep splitin' that firewood, Gp
Hi Gp, I'll have my girl send over the insurance forms tomorrow. I will do your procedure for half price ! If you are trying to contact the office, I an no longer listed under "Nick the Bowel"
@@dr.durellshepard398 Thanks for the offer Doc, I've waited a year to get this appointment. Doctor says he's backed up, butt will find an opening. Gp
@@dr.durellshepard398 Thanks for the offer Doc, I've been waiting a year for this appointment. The doctor says he is backed up, butt can find an opening. Gp
Another fun video Doc, thanks. I enjoyed use of the borescope too. Its neat to see what's happening inside. I really enjoy shooting my .58 rolling block too. After I had a mold enlarged to cast a .595" diameter minie, it shoots really well.
Hi Steve, The bore scope reassured me that I was ballpark with my cases. My case could be a hair longer as I could see the demarcation line of throat erosion just ahead of my test case. You are the culprit that got me hooked on the 58 Rolling blocks, I really enjoyed your presentation. .................Doc
Much like the snider conversions of enfield muskets they shoot best with .590 to .600 diameter bullets.
Waiting on that Ilion New York plant, to start pumping out those Legendary Pump 7600’s again, and according to them, they should start in the first quarter of 2023!
I’ve been hunting with a 760 Game Master .308 since I was 12, and I’m now 34, I just found out it was made at the plant in 1963. I also have a couple 7600s, one is 30-06, and the other is 35 Whelen, and there is no better hunting rifle out there than the 760 or the 7600 period. Remington For Life!
Yes, Remington, what a great and varied history. The volume and variety of items they produced and shipped worldwide is amazing.
Another fine presentation of your .58 Rolling Block.
Happy 4th, Doc. I have a few smoke poles here to make some noise in celebration. 😉. Best regards, Steve
Hi Steve, I appreciate the comment. Yes, have a happy 4th and burn some charcoal, both inside and outside the barrel !.....................Doc
...proving that "old, short, fat, and slow" is still plenty good enough. Thanks Doc - another great video!
Yes Roddo, a very serviceable transition for an old civil war musket. Regards...Doc
58 Caliber 😮😮😀😊 They Say Bigger Is Better Right 😀 What A Beautiful Rolling Block Doc😀 I Love Civil War Weaponry Thanks Doc
Hi Chris, Yes 58 caliber, the only other place on this planet where size matters! I love the CW hardware too Chris, the evolution is so diverse. Happy 4th, ..Doc
Tiene usted soluciones para todo DR, me .ha gustado mucho la solución para las vainas con los aros de cobre. Un saludo desde Toledo Spain.
Hola Antonio, tal vez mi arma tenía una recámara para nuestra ametralladora gatling calibre 58 militar, ya que tendría el diámetro de borde adecuado sin los anillos de cobre, pero ese es un cartucho muy raro. Gracias por apoyar mi canal. Los mejores deseos. Doc
((You have solutions for all DR, I really liked the solution for the sheaths with the copper rings. Greetings from Toledo Spain.))
((Hi Alberto, Perhaps my gun was chambered for our military 58 caliber Gatling gun as that would have the proper rim thickness without the copper rings, but that is a very rare cartridge. Thank you for supporting my channel. Best wishes. Doc))
Gracias por sus explicaciones,se aprende mucho con usted DR. Un saludo.
@@albertogonzalez9152 Eres muy bienvenido
I wish you were my neighbor, lol🍺
Hi Richard, Wouldn't that be a goof, to get all the commenters together for some sociable shooting. Happy 4th, ...............Doc
Hey thanks again Doc. This may sound funny but the old timers in my Black Powder Club say cleaning your used Brass with liquid Ultra "Dawn" detergent works the best. I laughed when I first heard that but, then I compared other detergents, and yes they all work, but "Dawn" seemed to work the Best! Maybe my brain just wanted to think that because that is what my members told me or maybe they just wanted to see if I would go out and purchase different detergents and spend money 🤣. I don't know but, I can tell you that "Ultra Dawn" (The Blue Stuff) works Great! Take Care Doc, thanks again.
Hi Jeff, When I was a young guy, they told me to soak them in a gallon of prop wash !!! So one must be careful as to what you go into a store and ask for. I totally agree with you about the blue Dawn, I do use it in my second soak. Happy 4th, shoot something big and noisy ! ....Doc
Great accuracy from a barrel over 150 years old. I wonder how many musket loads were fired from this piece?
I suspect that quite a few were as the original parts of the arm are significantly worn. I'm sure it was in the thick of the fighting......Doc
New sub! Liked 🙏😮😀
Hello and welcome aboard. Glad you found it interesting. ......Doc