Hello Jason, Welcome to the channel. The tape primers I made need more fine tuning, but she shot very well with the musket caps. Congratulations, You'll love it ! Regards.....Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 Hi Doc. Do you think the Eras Gone Richmond Sharps mould would work for the projectiles in the Green Carbine? I have a Starr Carbine in .54 too and would rather only buy one mould as opposed to one for each gun.
@@jasonk4945 Hi Jason, The Eras Gone is a great bullet and worked well in my Starr. The Greene is a "FAT" 54 cal , so I went with the .555 ring tail as it has bands of different diameter and it worked fairly well, but the gun really wanted a slightly larger diameter. I suggest purchasing a small amount of cast bullets to try before committing to a mold. Regards.....Doc
Doc, what a treat! I'm sure this project kept you busy for quite a while. Thanks for going the extra mile, recreating the Maynard tape primer. I'm pretty sure more men have walked on the moon, than attempted that. Well done, and thanks for sharing!
Hi John, I did spend considerable hours on the primer build and they only worked fair, so more tests are in order. One thing that had me concerned about the moon landing photo was when I noticed the 2x4s and sheet rock screws sticking out on the lower left corner of the set. !! ?? !! ( just kidding ). Regards....Doc
Ok guys I might be listening to too much AM radio after midnight but I think Doc is a time traveler. Come on a real roll of Maynard Tape Primers. Thanks Doc.
Hello Hugh, Thanks so much for watching and the commentary. And also for reminding me to fix our AM radio, the wife asked me to look at it a month ago. I think it's the rectifier as the 35W4 tube is not lighting up. Our old Atwater-Kent has served the family well for three generations so far and counting. LOL.....Doc
Just discovered your channel, and it's original and you get to see firearms i've never heard of being used amazing a living history museum. Many thanks
Hello Sir, and thank you for the kind comments. The two videos I have posted on Greene firearms does show that he was an original thinker. Regards....Doc
Good morning Matthew, good to hear from you. It was a time consuming journey but I did learn a few new things. The tape primers need more tweaking to get the reliability up, they tend to plug the nipple with remnant material. Thanks so much for the kind words. Best regards....Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 It is funny that you should mention the taped primers I stopped the video halfway through to make my original comment and I was thinking to myself as I was typing that you should try to make your own tape primers. Boy was I surprised when I started the video backup and the next thing I've seen was you making the primers way to go sir.
Thanks Doc for another very informative & entertaining video. I was pleasantly surprised to see some remnants of case coloring left on the hammer and other small areas. I would rename your "feeble" attempt at making tape primers to Admirable Attempt. You did a fantastic job at making them.
Hi Jeff, and thanks so much for commenting. The gun is in great condition with a crisp action. The primers still need more work, but we did come a long way. ....Doc
A masterful presentation of this carbine from a period of innovation, this carbine is in wonderful condition even having case hardening colours showing, I wonder if the lack of ammunition for it lead to it being put away and forgotten. Your tape primer project was also an interesting tutorial, to have succeeded in making a working tape is an outstanding achievement, looking at the testing phase I did wonder about the risk of a chainfire, but the designer obviously thought about that problem when he included the tape shear device on the hammer nose. Very many thanks for your considerable efforts in producing this excellent video Dr, very much appreciated ! Chris B.
Good morning Chris, and thank you for your thoughtful comments. This was a time consuming video with much research and trial and error. Very rewarding to see her shoot again. What a shame that so many guns of this production were purposely destroyed, damming history. Regards....Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 Was there a particular reason for such a large batch of the production run being destroyed? Were they destroyed by the factory, or by government? I thought most surplus government stock went to Bannermans. Chris B.
@@453421abcdefg12345 Great Britain had difficulty producing a suitable cartridge for these so about 1000 of the 2000 they had were disassembled !! To what end ? One hundred years later Dixie Gun Works, Walllis in England, and Flayderman had many of these parts for sale. Recently I've seen mint locks being offered. The gun in this video came back to the US c. 1950 with others. ....................Doc
That was a fine video, made by someone who really understands firearms and is an excellent film maker. The way you made the video, you are doing all the things I would do and want to see if I was examining and firing the rifle. Really clear camera footage, and close ups and many different angles. It was perfect. The film really accurately documents all the detailed thing that antique enthusiasts are interested. I find the time period of from the first cap primers, up to start of breach loaders is significant because many rifles are still hand made, and the craft is at its peak. Many very fine hand made /cap/muzzle sporting rifles from 1840-1865. Some nice long range rifles, Really enjoyable film!
Good evening Peter, And thanks so very much for the benevolent assessment, it's truly appreciated. It's just me, no crew, running back and forth to the cameras, then many hours of research and editing. I totally agree with your statement concerning that time period of unbridled imagination and development. Great fun for us today to try to uncover their mysterious motives. Best Regards.......Doc
Hi Doc! Hope you have been well. What a great video you made to share. Lots of history, and going through the task of making those primers!! Wow!! What a neat firearm! I have never seen one in real life, let alone in action. Thank you for all the work you have put in to making this video! I have watched it twice so far, and just to let you know I have watched all the video's you have made several times. Take care!
Good morning Dave, we are doing well this winter, just got a snow storm but we are staying indoors. It is an interesting carbine we made for Great Britain. I'm not sure how or when it got back to the states, as you say, lots of history there. Thanks so much for the benevolent commentary, it is appreciated. These videos really do contain a lot of little subtleties that are overlooked by viewing on a small screen, so I do most of my RUclips viewing on a large monitor. Stay warm Dave, Spring in coming. Regards....Doc
Good morning Sir, I'm pleased you found it interesting. For a short gun it is very heavy and well made. I love them also, as is evident, so much history and clever designs. ....Doc
So cool. I’m sitting here watching you building your own tape primers. Thinking you probably have a fly press so I’m building a die in my head from copper strips hinged together on the long side kind of like a watch or clockmakers depthing tool. Not sure why but you get my brain working. Thank you and have fun
Good afternoon Sir, No I don't have a fly press, but I know they are a fabulous tool. A powerful and controlled punch, among other things. I found that the paper tape wanted to pull material from the next hole and if you didn't let it the paper would tare. So my next design was to be a rotary die set so the tape was free to do what ever it desired. Still lots more to figure out to make these really practical, but as we say, Half the fun is getting there. Regards....Doc
This one looked like it leaked a lot less gas than the G&C carbine. The falling block system really needs the metallic cartridge to function properly. The Smith and Burnside carbines are the ones I really want to try.
Hi Sharon, All the paper cartridge guns leaked a lot of gas, no matter what they tried as a sealant method. Sharps, as you say, had a great action but needed the metallic cartridge. Burnside had good design, but most of the brass case was on the wrong side of the breech block junction. His 5th model is the best design and are real cool to shoot. I personally love to shoot my Smith carbine. The cheap plastic cases work very well and the gun fits well and feels good on the shoulder. Best regards....Doc
As always a very informative video Doc. Looks like a very nicely made and thought out carbine. I like it. Were you able to get the tape primers to work correctly?
Hi Mike, It really is a very well made arm and an interesting journey to get her working. The tape primers worked fair, I need to do more experimenting. Regards...Doc
Seems like an awkward manual of arms, especially for a southpaw, the cartridges are an excellent example of the innovations tried to marry the percussion cap, and a cartridge. Very nice example of a unsuccessful side branch on arms development.
Another great video which taught me a lot. Does the insertion of the next round push whatever remains of the 1st paper case forward and then blow it ot of the barrel when fired? Are toy cap gun red rolls of caps still manufactured, or have they become extinct too. I watched this after reloading 36 rounds of 45-70 using a 405 gr. cast bullet in front of 27 gr. of IMR 4198.
Good morning Robert, There is a recess around the gas seal ring which tends to collect unburned paper scraps, but the next round will chamber. Some fellows do use the caps, double stacked and re-spaced. Ring caps are the current thing, I guess. I suspect that the next warm day you will be heading to the range, 4198 makes a great loading for the 45-70. What will you be firing them in ? Later...Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 I have a Pedersoli RRB Buffalo Rifle that I shot last time. This time I will shoot a Springfield Trapdoor Rifle that has been cut down and sporterized to use as a deer rifle about 60+ years ago. A friend gave it to me about 15 years ago, and I replaced the front sight with a blade, and decorated it with domed brass tacks to look like an Ameri-Indian owned gun. His grandfather gave it to him when he was a teenager to hunt deer.
@@robertrobert7924 Very good Robert ! One of my favorite trapdoors is a 1869 Cadet, a little rough looking but a great shooter. Being scaled down it is a very comfortable off-hand gun. It's not heavy or even muzzle heavy and fits me perfectly.
@@dr.durellshepard398 I also have a another trapdoor rifle in orginal military condition that I bought as a collector's piece. It resides in my gun safe. I can't remember if I ever shot it or not. It does not have that horrible cleaning rod bayonet. A neighbor/mentor wanted to sell me one of those, but I declined. Definitely a bad idea, IMHO.
Thanks both for the replies! Hopefully more folks will reply here and we’ll end up with a database of sorts. The Royal Armouries in Leeds has 3, will rewatch their video (on RUclips) and see if they mention numbers.
@@dr.durellshepard398 Very interesting, the one shown in the Royal Armouries ‘Emergency Crimean American Carbine’ (obviously the Greene) video is numbered 1818. Well if there’s still 200 out there it’s a pretty good spread of serial numbers! Cheers for the reply! All the best.
I totally agree, wouldn't it be super to be able to purchase some of these great designs from the past. And they could be manufactured easily with today's CNC machining.
I have recently acquired a Greene carbine myself. So good to see someone making cartridges and Maynard tape and firing it. Very inspiring, thank you.
Hello Jason, Welcome to the channel. The tape primers I made need more fine tuning, but she shot very well with the musket caps. Congratulations, You'll love it ! Regards.....Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 Hi Doc. Do you think the Eras Gone Richmond Sharps mould would work for the projectiles in the Green Carbine? I have a Starr Carbine in .54 too and would rather only buy one mould as opposed to one for each gun.
@@jasonk4945 Hi Jason, The Eras Gone is a great bullet and worked well in my Starr. The Greene is a "FAT" 54 cal , so I went with the .555 ring tail as it has bands of different diameter and it worked fairly well, but the gun really wanted a slightly larger diameter. I suggest purchasing a small amount of cast bullets to try before committing to a mold. Regards.....Doc
Wow - making your own Maynard tape primers. Well done, so neat to see them working!
Hi Steve, glad you got to see that. I did spend many hours on the primers. Thank you for turning me on to the priming compound. Regards...Doc
Doc, what a treat! I'm sure this project kept you busy for quite a while. Thanks for going the extra mile, recreating the Maynard tape primer. I'm pretty sure more men have walked on the moon, than attempted that. Well done, and thanks for sharing!
Hi John, I did spend considerable hours on the primer build and they only worked fair, so more tests are in order. One thing that had me concerned about the moon landing photo was when I noticed the 2x4s and sheet rock screws sticking out on the lower left corner of the set. !! ?? !! ( just kidding ). Regards....Doc
Ok guys I might be listening to too much AM radio after midnight but I think Doc is a time traveler. Come on a real roll of Maynard Tape Primers. Thanks Doc.
Hello Hugh, Thanks so much for watching and the commentary. And also for reminding me to fix our AM radio, the wife asked me to look at it a month ago. I think it's the rectifier as the 35W4 tube is not lighting up. Our old Atwater-Kent has served the family well for three generations so far and counting. LOL.....Doc
Just discovered your channel, and it's original and you get to see firearms i've never heard of being used amazing a living history museum. Many thanks
Good morning Colin and welcome aboard to the channel. Best regards....Doc
This another first for me, a very unique design along with good history lessen. Thanks for posting and demonstrating how this firearm works.......
Hello Sir, and thank you for the kind comments. The two videos I have posted on Greene firearms does show that he was an original thinker. Regards....Doc
Another great video Doc !!! You are a master at making cartridges for these old guns and making them come alive again. My hat goes off to you sir.
Good morning Matthew, good to hear from you. It was a time consuming journey but I did learn a few new things. The tape primers need more tweaking to get the reliability up, they tend to plug the nipple with remnant material. Thanks so much for the kind words. Best regards....Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 It is funny that you should mention the taped primers I stopped the video halfway through to make my original comment and I was thinking to myself as I was typing that you should try to make your own tape primers. Boy was I surprised when I started the video backup and the next thing I've seen was you making the primers way to go sir.
@@matthewbilly3252 Thanks so much.
Thanks Doc for another very informative & entertaining video. I was pleasantly surprised to see some remnants of case coloring left on the hammer and other small areas. I would rename your "feeble" attempt at making tape primers to Admirable Attempt. You did a fantastic job at making them.
Hi Jeff, and thanks so much for commenting. The gun is in great condition with a crisp action. The primers still need more work, but we did come a long way. ....Doc
A masterful presentation of this carbine from a period of innovation, this carbine is in wonderful condition even having case hardening colours showing, I wonder if the lack of ammunition for it lead to it being put away and forgotten. Your tape primer project was also an interesting tutorial, to have succeeded in making a working tape is an outstanding achievement, looking at the testing phase I did wonder about the risk of a chainfire, but the designer obviously thought about that problem when he included the tape shear device on the hammer nose. Very many thanks for your considerable efforts in producing this excellent video Dr, very much appreciated ! Chris B.
Good morning Chris, and thank you for your thoughtful comments. This was a time consuming video with much research and trial and error. Very rewarding to see her shoot again. What a shame that so many guns of this production were purposely destroyed, damming history. Regards....Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 Was there a particular reason for such a large batch of the production run being destroyed? Were they destroyed by the factory, or by government? I thought most surplus government stock went to Bannermans. Chris B.
@@453421abcdefg12345 Great Britain had difficulty producing a suitable cartridge for these so about 1000 of the 2000 they had were disassembled !! To what end ?
One hundred years later Dixie Gun Works, Walllis in England, and Flayderman had many of these parts for sale. Recently I've seen mint locks being offered. The gun in this video came back to the US c. 1950 with others. ....................Doc
That was a fine video, made by someone who really understands firearms and is an excellent film maker.
The way you made the video, you are doing all the things I would do and want to see if I was examining and firing the rifle.
Really clear camera footage, and close ups and many different angles. It was perfect.
The film really accurately documents all the detailed thing that antique enthusiasts are interested.
I find the time period of from the first cap primers, up to start of breach loaders is significant because many rifles are still hand made, and the craft is at its peak. Many very fine hand made /cap/muzzle sporting rifles from 1840-1865. Some nice long range rifles,
Really enjoyable film!
Good evening Peter, And thanks so very much for the benevolent assessment, it's truly appreciated. It's just me, no crew, running back and forth to the cameras, then many hours of research and editing. I totally agree with your statement concerning that time period of unbridled imagination and development. Great fun for us today to try to uncover their mysterious motives. Best Regards.......Doc
Hi Doc! Hope you have been well. What a great video you made to share. Lots of history, and going through the task of making those primers!! Wow!! What a neat firearm! I have never seen one in real life, let alone in action. Thank you for all the work you have put in to making this video! I have watched it twice so far, and just to let you know I have watched all the video's you have made several times. Take care!
Good morning Dave, we are doing well this winter, just got a snow storm but we are staying indoors. It is an interesting carbine we made for Great Britain. I'm not sure how or when it got back to the states, as you say, lots of history there. Thanks so much for the benevolent commentary, it is appreciated. These videos really do contain a lot of little subtleties that are overlooked by viewing on a small screen, so I do most of my RUclips viewing on a large monitor. Stay warm Dave, Spring in coming. Regards....Doc
Wonderful video Doc! I absolutely love these old firearms! Keep up the good work!
Good morning Sir, I'm pleased you found it interesting. For a short gun it is very heavy and well made. I love them also, as is evident, so much history and clever designs. ....Doc
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and technique with the "paperwork "🇺🇸🇳🇴
Hello Sir, I am pleased that you found the adventure interesting. And thank you for the kind commentary. ...Doc
So cool. I’m sitting here watching you building your own tape primers. Thinking you probably have a fly press so I’m building a die in my head from copper strips hinged together on the long side kind of like a watch or clockmakers depthing tool. Not sure why but you get my brain working. Thank you and have fun
Good afternoon Sir, No I don't have a fly press, but I know they are a fabulous tool. A powerful and controlled punch, among other things. I found that the paper tape wanted to pull material from the next hole and if you didn't let it the paper would tare. So my next design was to be a rotary die set so the tape was free to do what ever it desired. Still lots more to figure out to make these really practical, but as we say, Half the fun is getting there. Regards....Doc
This one looked like it leaked a lot less gas than the G&C carbine. The falling block system really needs the metallic cartridge to function properly.
The Smith and Burnside carbines are the ones I really want to try.
Hi Sharon, All the paper cartridge guns leaked a lot of gas, no matter what they tried as a sealant method. Sharps, as you say, had a great action but needed the metallic cartridge. Burnside had good design, but most of the brass case was on the wrong side of the breech block junction. His 5th model is the best design and are real cool to shoot. I personally love to shoot my Smith carbine. The cheap plastic cases work very well and the gun fits well and feels good on the shoulder. Best regards....Doc
What a cool gun.
Hello again Sir, and thank you for commenting. It really is very well made, robust without being clunky. Well behaved on the firing line also. ....Doc
As always a very informative video Doc. Looks like a very nicely made and thought out carbine. I like it. Were you able to get the tape primers to work correctly?
Hi Mike, It really is a very well made arm and an interesting journey to get her working. The tape primers worked fair, I need to do more experimenting. Regards...Doc
Those paper cartridges were very thick. I'm surprised the walls actually burned.
Hi Steve, I totally agree, I really prefer the nitrated coffee filters, which burn completely. Doc
Seems like an awkward manual of arms, especially for a southpaw, the cartridges are an excellent example of the innovations tried to marry the percussion cap, and a cartridge. Very nice example of a unsuccessful side branch on arms development.
Yes Sir, the several rotating breech guns that were tried never went anywhere and the in-line pump and lever guns took the market share.......Doc
Another great video which taught me a lot. Does the insertion of the next round push whatever remains of the 1st paper case forward and then blow it ot of the barrel when fired? Are toy cap gun red rolls of caps still manufactured, or have they become extinct too. I watched this after reloading 36 rounds of 45-70 using a 405 gr. cast bullet in front of 27 gr. of IMR 4198.
Good morning Robert, There is a recess around the gas seal ring which tends to collect unburned paper scraps, but the next round will chamber. Some fellows do use the caps, double stacked and re-spaced. Ring caps are the current thing, I guess. I suspect that the next warm day you will be heading to the range, 4198 makes a great loading for the 45-70. What will you be firing them in ? Later...Doc
@@dr.durellshepard398 I have a Pedersoli RRB Buffalo Rifle that I shot last time. This time I will shoot a Springfield Trapdoor Rifle that has been cut down and sporterized to use as a deer rifle about 60+ years ago. A friend gave it to me about 15 years ago, and I replaced the front sight with a blade, and decorated it with domed brass tacks to look like an Ameri-Indian owned gun. His grandfather gave it to him when he was a teenager to hunt deer.
@@robertrobert7924 Very good Robert ! One of my favorite trapdoors is a 1869 Cadet, a little rough looking but a great shooter. Being scaled down it is a very comfortable off-hand gun. It's not heavy or even muzzle heavy and fits me perfectly.
@@dr.durellshepard398 I also have a another trapdoor rifle in orginal military condition that I bought as a collector's piece. It resides in my gun safe. I can't remember if I ever shot it or not. It does not have that horrible cleaning rod bayonet. A neighbor/mentor wanted to sell me one of those, but I declined. Definitely a bad idea, IMHO.
@@robertrobert7924 Today's Snowflakes love that bayonet, ................it couldn't hurt a fly !
Why was tar used in blanks? Seems like the tar would stick and harden along the inside of the barrel.
Hello Sir, I totally agree, but I have seen many horse training rounds from that era built that way. The later ones did use a card wad.
Ya never mentioned the contact powdet ?
You make or buy ?
What about the red kids tape caps ?
same compound as kids caps
What serial number is your Carbine? Mine is 259. Just out of interest. Very interesting video, well done!
Hello Sir, and thank you for the kind comments. My SN is 1655, so I surmise that the 1,000 disassembled ones were selected at random. Regards....Doc
Mine is serial number 598.
Thanks both for the replies! Hopefully more folks will reply here and we’ll end up with a database of sorts. The Royal Armouries in Leeds has 3, will rewatch their video (on RUclips) and see if they mention numbers.
@@yorkshirejoinery2869 Hello Sir, There was also one sold at College Hill Arsenal with serial number 1564.
@@dr.durellshepard398 Very interesting, the one shown in the Royal Armouries ‘Emergency Crimean American Carbine’ (obviously the Greene) video is numbered 1818. Well if there’s still 200 out there it’s a pretty good spread of serial numbers! Cheers for the reply! All the best.
Its a shame that no company makes quality reproductions of many of the interesting civil war paper cartridge breach loading guns.
I totally agree, wouldn't it be super to be able to purchase some of these great designs from the past. And they could be manufactured easily with today's CNC machining.