Can you trust your aquarium heater out of the box? | BRStv Investigates
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Do you care if your aquarium heater is reliable out of the box?
Today we share our thoughts and find out if you can trust your heater's factory calibration.
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When my Fennex was off my 2 degree. The spec for our heater probe is ±2°, so the heater is still in spec. If you like to calibrate it, there is a variable resistor on the control board. The location is VR2 on the printed circuit board. You will need a plastic screwdriver to turn the dial to adjust the calibration. You can punch through the sticker on the back of the controller and stick a small plastic flat head screwdriver to adjust the calibration. See attached pictures. Let me know if you have any questions. Please note: Finnex is not responsible if anything happens to your tank when calibration is not calibrated by a Finnex certified technician. Calibrate at your own risk.
Learning EVERY time I watch
I tweaked my heater temp by using Reef-Pi and a DS18B20 temperature probe in the water.
I disregarded the numbers on the top of the heater and just adjusted the dial in tiny increments while watching the min/max values over a couple of days. Got it exactly where I wanted and it stays within 1 degree.
I use the Inkbird Controller on our Eheim Jager 300 temp and it works great for us. You can also hook up a cooling fan which we do and does a great job cooling water temp down when needed.
Great content, so glad inverter heat pumps for koi ponds are very consistent
Yes yes yes. Please do a review of other tests that you mentioned.
I use a good laser temp gun to set my heaters on Apex
The eheim looked to be the most consistent and once you position the red ring, would be the best choice IMO.
And no, I'm not an eheim fanby. I've been using finnex ti heaters.
Neotherm was nice until I got the shock of a lifetime this week after nearly a year of use. No signs of wear but nearly paralyzed my movements when cleaning tank.
Travis whoa... thats scary dude...
Yikes. Really glad to hear you're ok. Saltwater and electricity definitely don't mix.
Definitely should run a titanium ground plug.
Travis you not the only one same here and mine got stuck on 94 degrees and almost whipped out my tank luckily i cought it in time but cobalt dont care about warranty
@@72jmunoz I've been warning people in this comment section. Do not but cobalts. They are prone to failure more so than other heaters.
I use the plain Jain titanium fluvals on all my tanks from 10g 50w, 150w in a 45 and 30g, 200w in both a 65 and 55 and multiple 300w in a 125 and 210. Although the thermostat we are usually 3-5* off out the box they do maintain 1* temperatures in all tanks. Runs 80.2 all day and at night when the ac is cranked down to 68* they hold a steady 79.4. Not one of them is less then 2 years old and still running strong and I’ve forgot to turn them off more then once or twice when doing water changes. One of them spent 3 years in a saltwater tank, sat in a box for another 2 years and has been running almost 2 years in a 125g freshwater setup. (Granted it’s the secondary heater only getting duty at night mostly when house is cooler but still impressive)
I’ve used all of these except the cobalts (which are on my list of things to get) and non of them touch my fluvals for consistency and durability.
I'm looking forward to the GHL Temperature Control 2, which is both a heater and a chiller. I'm actually more interested in its heating because that is such a failure point. I figure I'll supplement with a small Eheim Jager that *can't* overheat the tank if it sticks on.
My fluval is like 6 off!!!
Woah!
I've had the Cobalt Aquatics heater for 3 weeks now. Originally loved it. Today the thermostat malfunctioned while I was at work and killed everything in my aquarium. Never was a thought in my mind that a heater that has gotten so many great reviews from many different retailers would have such a devastating malfunction with less than a month of use. If you are considering purchasing one, I would suggest checking out other options.
Always use a controller. Plug in any standard thermometer or group of and set them with an upper limit. Then the master controller handles the temp and if that goes south you still have some redundancy for emergencies.
i have never used the setup point on the heater and use a nist certified and calibrated temp prob to set my heater setting regardless what it says. I find that the AC pumps I have and the warmth of my home keeps the water temp with in 76 and 77 which is where my chiller is set to (77). The chiller also has a temp display on it so I have a visual from across the room.
Is 78 degrees just a setting for being in the sump? Or should the display test at 78 degrees?
With enough water turnover through the sump/display, the temp should be virtually the same in both locations.
TO BRS:
I was wondering, when doing those test in this video, what instrument did you use to measure the temperature? And a question of that answer: How do you know it was calibrated and it's exactly the good reading temperature? The reason i say this it's because i have 4 different temperature instrument, 4 different reading, i don't know which one to trust.
Great question! I used a Neptune Apex controller for this test. I calibrated the Apex temp probe using the average of three different thermometers that were measuring the tank and verified the Apex reading with a standalone thermometer after each heater had been running for 24hrs.
You really killin it on the thumbnails. 🤔👍🏼
I never trust the internal thermostat but I only trust the durability of the Eheim and even then I replace it after a year. It's frustrating but heaters are the single greatest source of equipment failure and definitely cause the most expensive problems.
I have the Inkbird temp controller and it can be set to 0.5 degree C. I have it connected to a 300w Eheim Jager and the temp is always within .5 degree C of my set point. This is consistent with my thermometer.
You should replace the probe regularly to avoid innacurate readings
Will the titanium heater need to be replaced as often as heaters with a built-in thermostat? Is there anything on the heater itself that can (somewhat commonly) fail?
I think that will likely depend more on the ON/OFF cycles you choose for the heating element. For example, if your controller has your heater set to come ON at 78.0 and OFF at 78.1...it has the potential to turn off and on hundreds of times a day, ultimately adding to the wear and tear of the heating element itself. The further apart you allow those set points the less wear on your heating element which could potentially allow it to last longer.
No
Where can i buy a temperature calibration fluid ?
Do you sell a 78f standardized solution ? XD
Yes! Only available on April 1st though 😜
What about heat pumps and chillers with the ability to heat & cool?
A very solid question! I think in those instances, if they don't have built in calibration adjustments the best approach will be to use multiple thermometers to get a baseline for their actual temp and then adjust accordingly.
So I would like to utilize a controller to turn my heater on and off, however a lot of the digital ones tend to forget the set points if the power gets shut off which ones dont is the big question.
And second, damn didn't know what that blue ring was for on the Eheim Jager heaters, I have had a bunch of them over the years (used) and assumed they simply were broken because I'd twist the blue ring and the heater didn't turn on no matter how high I "set it" who knew!
We had a power outage last night for about a half hour, the Inkbird came back on exactly where it was set.
@@greetingsearthlingspluto6666 Well I should hope the temperature controller actually works, I was talking about the ones that typically ship with heaters. Had a Finnex titanium one quite a few years back and if the power went off (i.e. another controller was handling the temperature) then it'd reset to the default temp 78 I think, but I liked to run things a bit on the cooler side at 76.
Use a UPS
You can always try a battery backup too avoid the affect of power outtages
I don't even trust the thermostat on my AC!
when do you change out a heater. 1 year 1.5 years or until a person gets shocked or all the live stock gets fried?
Best practices... since heaters are probably the number one cause of a catastrophic failure in a tank (versus nearly all other equipment) we try to change them out once per year. That could definitely seem like an added cost, but if a heater were to fail on the tank and wipe everything out that cost would likely far exceed a heater replacement.
Well now Just peaked my interest and tried to find quick specs on the Cobalt Neotherm heater. Top of my Bing search was bulkreef supply and guess what no specs only reviews most manufactures of thermostats state in their specifications thermostat accurate within +- X degrees but after I visited bulkreef supply where there were no manufactures specifications I went to the Cobalt website and guess what no specs on their neotherm heaters either.
As you stated the biggest difference was +- 3 degrees! Which is fairly good for a consumer grade set and forget piece of equipment. Unless you are talking about c then it is too big of a temperature swing.
Now you didn't mention if you followed the manufacture documentation on installing the heater such as run the heater for x hours then check the temperature with another thermometer adjust the offset bla, bla, bla. So the manufacture, all manufactures state they know the thermostat isn't that accurate out of the box and you need to do some tweaking.
Just warning folks, don't buy cobalt heaters. Prone to malfunction. More so than other heaters.
As nice looking and accuracy of the cobalt is, I dont trust them. I keep seeing post of them failing by busting open. I would say finnex or eheim are the best heaters. But nice video
It's true that I've seen some reports from years past where this was an issue, but I can't say that I've seen recent reports of similar issues happening recently.
Cobalt is cool, until it electrocutes you when you stick your hand in the tank.
Oh no, yikes! We have a few Cobalt heaters around the office on various tanks and I can't say that our experience has been the same.
all in one designs are dangerous and innacurate.
Anyone reading, never trust a cobalt heater. They are prone to malfunction from my experience. I work at an lfs, and we have gotten many returns of cobalt due to failure. Our own cobalt heaters failed on us and killed our corals due to over heating. My personal tank, I had 4 of them fail on me. This was around early 2018 through late 2018 and for the first 5 months of 2019. We've since then stopped carrying any cobalt heaters. Again, don't but them. Get other heaters instead.
I've been using cobalt in 2 of my tank for 2 yrs now with no issues and temp is always constant