DONT YOU EVER GET A JOB AT DISNEY! NEVER EVER!
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
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YOU HAVE YEE'D YOUR LAST HAW
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@@inkplobs d-dad?
Duckitis its all ok now. The bad men wont hurt u anymor.
I will never get a job at Disney. I’ll get a job somewhere else and wait for Disney to buy them.
Work for Wal-mart. That one might actually take them a while.
Work in studios that do job for Disney.
Sony can buy Disney. They ain’t as big as most people think.
@@mi8los there is no way sony can buy disney
*gets a job on Sony, getting a project on Spiderman movie. Later on Disney buy Spiderman including the staffs and artist.
*Oh yeah its all coming together
Disney bad
thanks for coming to my ted talk
Amazing, beautiful, Shakespeare could never
But maybe animator too ambitious/naive?
I didn’t know such beautiful writing could be topped, yet, here I stand, astonished
Profound. I'd like to add that Disney *Mega Bad.*
EDIT: THANK YOU FOR THE GOLD, KIND STRANGER!!! :)
I gotta say I hate this kinda dismissive attitude.
"Haha yeah sure disney is bad i heard it a million times, don't care anymore it's cringy you can only name a certain amount of times before i grow apathetic to it"
I get where people come from-- yes, it's just a fact of life and neither you or I will stop it, but that doesn't mean you should brush it off like it's some surreal meme that has lost its meaning. At least, that's how I see it.
Ethan Becker: Acts like a badass
Everyone: "His eyes are so cute!!"
With glasses, he protects himself from fangirls. Yep
I was just about to say that! His eyes uwuu
@Kristina G. me too tho
LMAO TRUE
they are tho🥺
As a 40-yr-old man with a varied background in different industries, I can confirm that Ethan’s advice is gold.
Employers want exactly three things:
1. Skills, your ability to produce good work.
2. Teamwork, your ability to fit your work into a team effort.
3. Reliability, your ability to do the above two points on time, every time.
Nail those three things and you’re hired.
oh man i accidentally read hired as fired and let me tell you that was a hilarious plot twist
Alright thank you for confirming.
As someone with ADHD..... #3 = It all makes sense now.
I need workers that make life easier not harder.
@@Eepsheepha.....ha..... yeah we are fucked
"Never work for Disney." - The guy with Disney Princess Eyes
Dice Tea and look at those rosy cheeks
Ethan best waifu 2020 😂
Imagine it. Ethan looks up to see a co-worker hard staring at him with a pencil in their hand drawing away.
Right? I even imagined it as anime eyes with little stars in them, they are so girly and pretty and cute!
I never noticed them before wtf why are they so pretty
Great video!! As an individual in the industry for over 15 years, the advice you dropped is 100% truth. I can’t stand these young artists complaining about how they didn’t get what they want.. you need to earn the respect of others and prove your skills and have a good attitude. To many of these individuals think their good when they got a lot of room to grow , improve.. there’s always someone better than you at what you do.. so don’t let your ego control your mouth.
I was taught by Art Center alumni and directly from some of the founders of Pixar.. my advice is learn as much about what art you’re hoping to create and more. Don’t just learn to draw, understand the newest software used in animation to editing, 3D modeling , illustration.. understanding the other components of a project will give you better insight into limitations or what can be pushed to the limits.
"have a good attitude"
Ppl with mental illnesses: 😬 (ಥ_ಥ)
That does not justify bad, abusive behavior and lack of education. That is just being a shitty individual
"you need to earn the respect of others". I think that's where the heart of the matter is. You might need to earn respect *as a professional*, prove that you're hardworking and skilled enough to be in the position you're in/want to be.
But *as a person*, you DO NOT need to earn the respect of others. Dignity is inherent to every human, and everyone is deserving of respect.
I think that's the point that 98% of the people on this comment section and Ethan are missing and is really important to be clear about, and the reason why, when you comment negatively on her because you think she's demanding a level of professional respect she might have not earned yet, when she's clearly describing situations in which she wasn't respected *as a person*, you're making more harm than anything else.
I hate to benefit this video's algorithm after all this months by leaving comments, but this needs to be stated.
@@tarticant3097 Yes, but her attitude was very ego driven. She came out of college/art school believing she was ‘good’ or ‘great’.. that is her own perception and can be rather false when compared to other artist of her age group.
Also she framed her attitude going into the interview as being , ‘they need me, I don’t need them..’ - that is the worst perspective to go in with into the interview. I’ve conducted interviews to hire top designers to work on big projects.. or even trained individuals at Disney, Universal, etc You need to be humble not self absorbed.
Yes, maybe they didn’t give her respect, yet you’re going to meet individuals whom will be cold until they see what you can do. Some of these people have seen many artists come and go, and just maybe don’t like getting to friendly until they know your willing to stay and really want to be part of the group.
Also she acted like they should make her an art director or give her a show to control.. sorry but she doesn’t seem to have the right mindset to be in charge.. she basically was acting just as those she was complaining about.
My career in art/design/development started when i was 15 and now i’m over 40. You have to be patient with being given advancements or the opportunity to earn an art director position.
Also you must learn your own limitations and that sometimes you might need to seek out help from better artists to complete large or even small projects..
Never believe you can or should do everything.. its good to learn a lot of things but don’t expect to be the best.
Agreed. A high self-esteem is great, but I think that "I don't care, I'm too much for you" attitude when you are just one among a bunch of other young artists working there is just taking that to negative levels.
I like how Ethan is never really talking bad about other artists but instead showing what they did that might not work for the students out there. Makes you feel a lot more motivated when you’re not just critiquing someones work but showing what the viewer could have done differently!
Why go to therapy when I can just tell myself “am I gonna boohoo or yeehaw?”
YEEEEEHAAAW!
words of wisdom 😌
Damn right.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWWWWW I always yehaw except in sonic and the secret rings I still haven't beat that game.
Yeehaw by all means but if its all too much to deal with and its gettin real serious go to therapy my dood
"Are you going to boohooo or yeehaw" is legitimately a good thing to ask yourself when you're dealing with a problem.
Need that plaqued
Legit
I’m gonna boohoo then yeehaw because I’m sensitive.
@@hsmacaraig Sometimes boohooing is the first step to yeehawing, baybey
this is now my life motto
You know those scenes from anime, when a character adjusts its glasses before explaining something smart af? He done the same with those american glasses and started explaining capitalism.
"And then she keeps talling to whoever she was talking to!" Well.... yeah.. she was having a conversation. Wait till shes done
And the "daaaaaaamn" like calm your tits it's not that bad😂 she answered her and went back to her convo, her hand was just left hanging and i think we all agree that worse things happen...
Ethan is the most pure chaotic good that could be condensed into a person.And I am all for it.
Chaotic good is the most accurate description of him that could ever be
Accurate af
👏👏👏
Yes! This is so true.
That's the most accurate way to describe Ethan Becker.
Disney: sees video
Also Disney: this video will disappear in 3, 2, 1...
✨The magic of Disney ✨
@@Thronge gonna download this and reupload this when it disappear
@@Thronge LOOOOOOOLLLLL
That shit going in the way back of the Disney vault along with song of the south
Dont think it will be deleted it....it her right to speak...I guess...
I have coworkers like her, way over confident about their work, but have done nothing, but feel like they deserve the top jobs, every time they get humbled.
That’s the thing I fear the most. I really don’t want to be like that. It’s just so.. scary
Miztrali same
@@bituin5908 yeah sometimes i fear myself, overconfident to stuff i know little. But when i know more i realize how stupid and arogan i was before.
Nathaniel Jonathan ikr? Sometimes like you think their the asshole (the ones who contradict you) but you’re the actual asshole
@@bituin5908 yeah, i don't wanna be like that, it seems too harsh
"Relationships first, skills second", not just in the animation industry, its true for all industries. I'm in software, everyone and their mom can learn to write programs, doesn't mean I'd hire them to work for me. Personality is the biggest deciding factor.
soo favouritsm and nepotism and not the actual skill, cool
@@wmurd No, the skill is to know how to deal with people. A monkey can learn to code. That isn't skill. Just like scratching your nether regions and not doing anything isn't a skill.
That said, look up basic definitions of "relationship building" and then "nepotism". You're not using the words correctly.
@@coachnico8041 "a monkey can learn to code". Cringe.
@@williampan29 You have a pretty low bar for cringe and thats really cringe
@@questionmark521 If you answer back with toddler like attitude, that wouldn't be very sociable, isn't it?
Janet: "Why I quit my job at Disney"
Most pros I know: "Why I lived in my car for 8 months in a Nickelodeon parking lot, trying to get someone to look at my portfolio"
Ethan was actually in the same boat before he ever got hired for this line of work
Janet: *sincere*
Most pros: "Thanks for coming to my movie"
That’s why some pros recommend to keep a day job or have kept a day job whilst working towards their dream, it’s a tough journey
Yea how DARE SHE not like getting it in the ass like the rest of us ? American corporate culture is evil and I'm just happy people are starting to realize it instead of just bowing down and taking it.
both of those things are dumb asf....
I believe that cigarette can survive a car dragging it from Ethan's mouth.....and thanks for the likes my fellow artist.
That cigarette represents life. We're hanging from a cliff and it looks like we're going to fall, but we're staying strong.
@@Bombertard .....woah man......that's deep........
Bombertard **snaps cigarette**
What kind of cigarette he had? Mine was always broke into pieces.
I can't stop staring at it.
She acts like she wasted 15-20 years of her career there. I would choke if she has worked more than five years.
No one gives you a good sport award for throwing your life away.
MonkeyShaman fuck dude that hit me hard. I’m just going to start doing whatever I want.
@@joshb8976 yeah because going full conan and not putting yourself in a position where you know you're making yourself and your coworkers miserable is the same thing.
MonkeyShaman you’re no shaman. You’re just a bully
@@joshb8976 busted. 😔
Dude, she started some drama for bumping up her views etc on her social media platforms. She claimed an artist by the name of Lord Gris, copied her. The pictures were someone at 3/4 face angle, red skinned demon girl (was literally the skin color she got mad about) and then a theme relating to bees and honey (artworks were still each their own deal though). It's sad she dropped down to that and her replies to her own fans who looked into it and are telling her she's wrong, have been called brainless, insulting her and blind supporters. By her. Someone they supported. Also she seriously isn't joking, she's serious the other artist copied her.
Not to mention the honey girl are both totally different art. Its just a theme on honey girls, same as the one with the candy girl, they are both different with the same theme. The red demon girl was honestly ridiculous, there are tons of red demon girls drawn very similar to hers, and Gris's was just a red girl with the same eye colour and a bunch of hands on her head. Her red girl isn't even a demon girl, it's just because the colour red. She could hv handle it better like dm Gris etc.
@@blobbu6016 Exactly! I haven't watched her vids, was just the last one because people said she was lashing back and insulting her own fanbase in that vid but her titles for a majority of her other videos talk about money, getting a surge of videos etc. She says she doesn't care but she seems to talk a lot about money, view percentages and then making money. From supposed authentic work but I see a lot of fanart she is mainly selling or being commissioned for. I still don't understand how she believes that Gris copied/stole from her when she does fanart?
@@CorchadoV omg i didnt know about her insulting her own fans... Ouch...
@@blobbu6016 Yeah her last vid in the comment section, she calls them brainless and Stan followers or something of the like. Sad she wasn't willing to listen to those who didn't even know Gris either.
Looking at it now her RUclips channel is awful, just about every month she does those “how much money do I make on RUclips” videos that small channels do to desperately get people to click. For someone who hated Disney for being all about money making, her RUclips ambitions are exclusively money focused, its clear as day. Her personality is just plain awful so it’s no wonder she isn’t growing as a channel, acting entitled and money hungry just don’t attract an audience. She was naive to think a clickbaity/viral “why I left my job at Disney” video was enough to launch a RUclips career, you have to be likeable.
Video title: *starts with DON'T YOU EVER-*
Me: oh yeah. It's that time again.
I read the title in his voice
@@rezecake same
Watching your videos is like being yelled at by a dad that actually loves me.
he’s like the cool uncle that the family thinks is weird but he’s chill as fuck
Watching his vids reminds me of my dad, but Ethan doesn’t guilt trip me.
I was gonna say, feels like being yelled at by Lord Shaxx (from Destiny 2) in the crucible for not throwing enough grenades, lol.
Yeah I like that feeling
Same.
I love how you corrected her without judging her.
This video was surprisingly motivational for me , a beginner artist with dreams of breaking into the animation industry ,
i ain't gonna boohoo into the animation industry , I'M GONNA YEEHAWW INTO THE INDUSTRY , WOOOHOOO
Me at an interview: I was raised on anime so the whole "give up" concept sorta left my system
McDonald's employee: you're just flipping burgers calm down
Fuck
Same
The big boy positive of anime
@@xdlr22 ever heard of jojosbizzare adventure ゴ ゴ ゴ ゴ
@@xdlr22 How about Death Note?
"Are you gonna boohoo, or are ya gonna YEEHAAW!?" this is gonna be my new mantra every morning for the rest of my life lol!
Everyday, everyone is going to wake up to me screaming that on the tip of my lungs.
Same energy as “are you gonna cowboy up or just lie there and bleed?”
YEE YEE
I remember throwing that exact same tantrum when I was 22 and furious at not getting my way at work. Thankfully I just cried about it in my room and then got over it, matured, and did all the things you said.
It's really unfortunate she felt the need to make a video showing herself acting like this. She could've kept it to herself, learned from it eventually, and then moved on, not having burned a hundred bridges.
This is exactly what I thought Animation would be like. It's heavy heavy work and it's like being a cog in a machine. I'm still down though lol
Yeah, I kind of like the work...
@@JeffreyThrash it is entertaining
Artist Nathan Fowkes has one of my favorite animation industry stories. This happened when he was a concept artist for the Prince of Egypt epic, and totally new in his career. One of his bosses gave him the job to create the color for the coronation feast. Not long after given the task, Fowkes hears a conversation from an office along the lines of "How dare you give a new guy such an important job for an important scene." Fowkes realized his and his boss' job was on the line. In a few days he makes HUNDREDS (he showed them in a slideshow, it was hundreds) of color concept paintings for the scene. He could've buckled at the weight of responsibility or bad vibes, but Fowkes stood up to the task. To this day, Fowkes is renound for his use of color.
Dude what?? This is so inspiring !
neve heard of this before ... its like a MC in a manga or something.. p cool
Fowkes is one of my biggest inspirations!! He's a color genius, a man with inspiring character, and he worked on my favorite animated film of all time (POE) It makes me so so happy to see someone else who has taken note in his accomplishments and attitude! Thank you for writing this. You got me all fired up and inspired.
@@-zephyressence-2018 Hey I can't find that animation film (POE). Can you link it here? I really would like to watch it. Thanks!
@@abdullamasud4278 POE is Prince Of Egypt
Ethan acting all badass but actually having one hell of a good heart is a MOOD.
Is this the slave mentality that built America? To work for master and not question him because profit of the rich is the most important? I thought the Civil War sorted that out.
I feel like it is still important to point out that you should still know your worth while being humble and approachable. Lots of businesses, from small family businesses to huge corporations, will look to take advantage of desperate, bright eyed bushy tailed talent. Don't think you're hot shit but don't let them think you're nothing, either.
her: gets her parents to pay for her expensive art school
also her when she finds out that money is all that matters: *shocked pikachu face*
I love the fact that Ethan has so many different blades
Some r/mallninja shit
Just shows there are different sides of Ethan
That's the spirit
he needs those reference materials
Maybe he cooks a lot
"I was at disney for 4 whole months and they didn't even let me direct my own movie"
Terrance Van Liew omg, how come they did not they let a newbie direct her own project!
Of course not. His film would have been brilliant. It would have had an introduction and a storyline and a conclusion too!
The shite Disney makes these days seems to have been written in less than that tbh.
But honestly Disney needs new blood and culture, they’re making short term profits with these god forsaken live action. Then again girl seems too immature to direct a decent movie. Lack of experience + naive and entitled personality = recipe for disaster.
Now the girl in the vid is claiming someone is copying her work when that artist dont even know her when it is clearly a coincidence...
Day Person I’m waiting for all the comments about this drama to show up on here, because clearly this Disney drama wasn’t enough for her. Interesting to hear what Ethan thinks.
Lol I just slapped down on this vid a comment talking about it. I know Gris said to stop but her latest vid with her comments insulting and lashing back to her own fans or well previous fans, is horrible and she needs a dose of her own medicine. Like she sells traditional fanart of a load of animes and sells them $80 minimum on her site. Like seriously? That's not stealing?
@@CorchadoV To be honest, Im cool with artists selling fanart at whatever the price they want on their own websites. If theres people who want to buy it and it allows artists to live off their art: cool! Now, for the art theft thing (gosh Im having 2008 deviantart drama flashbacks rn) Im not aware and I dont know / dont care about it. That Janet girl really annoys me, so Ill believe people when they say she's overreacting....but like when you study animation, your art tends to have a specific 'aesthetic' and a lot of it looks alike. So just move on Janet !
@@ykMMD It's more so her claiming that red demon girl etc is hers when certain companies find out you're making major money off their characters will swoop down with cease and desist letters or sue from there. It's just along that same line, she's being a hypocrite herself. Overall she really is just annoying. She enjoys talking about money and complaining about stuff that won't revolve around her from what people have joked about. I think it just annoys people primarily because she decided to stay by that and doesn't believe she's doing anything wrong in starting that drama. Not an artist I would like to work with period. And for her to start 2008 level art theft drama is so childish when she wants to be taken seriously in the art industry.
@@CorchadoV can i ask ...what happen actually ...im curious
I love the Pewdiepie of animation industry.....
The animation industry can be so harsh and demanding so much, but, man, every sphere is like that. If you want to grow and be recognized. I wish Janet success in her future projects, sometimes the biggest companies are not even near the best for the animators.
And a thank you to Ethan! great video, so attention-grabbing (and very, very interesting to listen to, teach us more, art sempai)
I hear her and I think how a person this weak even got a work at Disney for real she sounds like a teenager complaining about how hard high school is, my God she had a dream job for many people in the world and she complains because is difficult I mean what was she thinking when she decided to work in the animation industry? Every single job is difficult even if you are your own boss still difficult the point is to find one that you don't hate, her complains make me angry since she got an education to learn how to draw and I'm struggling with making string lines because I'm learning in my own, she doesn't appreciate what she have, she is the idiot that cry because she didn't get pizza for dinner when a bunch of people is starving in the world.
Yes job of animators is pretty difficult
PEDRO GARCIA yes a artist should aim for one that treat them better but work load will still be there.
Don't you EVER talk about spheres again! NEVER Ever! Only favored-sided triangles!
IMO i think not only Art Industry every big company in every industry is harsh. Even you got professional license whatsoever they will just see you as an employee getting out in a year. Thats why get a job first on SME.
"Minorities, poor people, humble people, hard workin people, this is their every day, it's not
somethin new, you haven't found anything new, it's just new to you" 👏 👏 👏 👏 Perfect.
Kinda falls flat when you think about the fact that the person he's telling that to actually belongs to a minority. But it rang true to me anyways.
@@ignazioacerenza9881
Asians aren't really considered one of the minorities in America, mostly due to the high influx of wealthy Chinese coming into America. You see due to the one-child policy (which I believe was recently changed to 2 children) it was in Chinese culture to basically invest everything into that one child. Which means the very best education (which is where the tiger parents stereotype comes from) Chinese parents often send their children to American colleges for good education causing the college percentages to have a disproportionally high Asian population. They actually will reject very good college applications/resumes just because you are Asian and Asians are held to a much higher standard for the sake of "diversity" on the college campus. This same logic carries on into whatever work field they are going into unfortunately.
@@108wee Asian-americans comprise only 5 percent of the american population. That is what we call a minority. And the situation you describe is precisely why I wouldn't say asian-americans have it easy and white dudes should tread carefully before making assumptions about the struggles of someone else.
@@ignazioacerenza9881 she still come from wealth.
@@shinozaddy5939 Intersectionality is not rocket science. We all face varying degrees of struggle and hardship. It is easy to frame her behaviour as silver spooned brat but we don't know what she had to go through nor how her parents and society's frame of mind affected her outlook on life. So let's all take a step back (lookin at you white straight boys) and chill.
This whole video makes me feel… odd.
As an autistic person, I was always this strange combination of naive and humbled. I was always sent mixed messages like “Your disability shouldn’t define you! Work harder and people will notice!” and “You aren’t entitled to anything in this life! Don’t expect the world to be handed to you just because you’re autistic!” I don’t assume people have bad intentions, and take everything to heart because if it wasn’t true why would they tell me that?
Art was never something I felt too much of a need to compete in. For me it was all about communicating my ideas. I never felt like I was ever going to be the next big artist, and always thought that would be way too much attention for me to handle. I didn’t ever want to be in the spotlight because I was so used to getting criticized abandoned rejected and demeaned for existing at all.
So when I worked so hard I neglected my overall health, then still came up short… It wasn’t that I was upset because I expected people to pity me enough to let me “win” if I cried or had a meltdown, yet the tears and internal shame still showed itself. Some classmates in my art class assumed I was doing it for some manipulative reason I think. They must’ve thought me being frustrated meant I felt entitled to being the best.
When I didn’t get into the graphic design program, I realized that after an entire life of working hard to please and be tolerated by other people, that whole idea that I’d be able to get anywhere if I just kept my head down and did my best was a lie.
I realized there were some things I couldn’t control, that were unfair, and that maybe it would be better for me if I just got out of that competitive space. My mother said I “wasn’t able to cope with competition” but that’s not it at all. I can acknowledge when I’ve lost a game or done worse than someone at something.
I am so aware of my flaws it’s almost a fault. I’ve just been berated for those little things so often in the past and had them used as reasons to hurt or exclude me in some situations…Then in the same breath I was told good hard work and a positive attitude would fix them and if I just did more, I could be accepted into society and not seen as a burden. I clung to that hope and that made rejection and criticism really painful, because I equated it with more evidence I didn’t deserve to exist.
I don’t know if that’s even remotely comparable to what this disney employee went through, but in a way, I learned the same lesson about hard work and it not inherently getting me anywhere. I realized despite what everyone said, my disability does define my capabilities to an extent, and to stay healthy I need to accept my limitations and let them define me so I can live life to the fullest. It’s still hard for me to accept that though, because the world we live in withholds food water and shelter from people they deem to “not be working hard enough”.
I am still terrified of being an adult because I feel like the moment I become vulnerable I will be hurt or taken advantage of by someone looking to prey on the weak, and it’s not like my openness to change every fiber of my being to avoid this outcome can fix everything people find problems in about me. So I am left with the question how do I convince people I deserve to take up space when I can’t as easily “pull myself up by my bootstraps”?
If anyone has an answer I’d be happy to hear it.
You sound like an amazing person to me personally. When I read your words, I become happy and reassured, because I see and hear what I think is missing in today's generation, and especially online: understanding, empathy, patience and love.
I feel like most people who watched this girl don't try to understand it from her perspective, but rather just judges it from their own and their own experiences without taking the time to take a step back and not include their own life and thought processes. It's impossible for us to understand and judge her experience, because we weren't there. We don't have enough information to be able to criticise or even make a comment at all.
Though I do understand her worries and feelings about her situation. And looking from her perspective, it's fully understandable that she would have the feelings that she has. As she said: It just wasn't for HER. But... That opinion seems to rub many people the wrong way... Maybe because they feel like it contradicts their own, maybe because they feel like it challenges their reality, experience and perception on how the industry works and has worked for them... As if 2 separate experiences and opinions can't exist in the same space.. I don't know. But it doesn't seem very empathetic or understanding.
And most people are telling her that she needs to fix something. They project their own thoughts of what her words meant and who she is without even getting to know her. Like this guy here: from just small 2 videoclips he "guesses" (his own words) her life and upbringing, and then makes his opinions and conclusions based on just that. - which seems very unprofessional and doesn't take into account the lack of information and understanding of her situation etc. (it's not like he interviewed her and wanted to and tried to understand her. He just wanted to comment based on his own perception of things and the things she said.)
Also, there is nothing wrong with you. You sound like an already perfect person. And somebody who has a lot more empathy than everyone I've read in this comment section so far. I think you Re absolutely right about being able to accept our shortcomings to be able to work on them. Only then can we heal and find ways to work around the hinderings that are in our path. It also is a part of getting to know yourself and how you work best. I have a lot of shortcomings that hinder me in a lot of cases, but they are also a gift in other scenarios. But by being aware of their downsides and how to manage them, I can help myself in the situations where it can cause more problems for me. (that does not mean that they are bad, though. Some things are positive in some aspects and negative in others. Nothing is black and white. Things are more nuanced like that.)
Also,
The sentiment you're describing sounds very much like an American thing (I don't know if you're from America though): this thing where you need to work hard to be deserving of things, and only your hard work will give you anything. - > "You are not deserving of anything if you don't put in the hard work, and if you fail, that is utterly your fault. No limitation can hinder you. If you're poor, that's your fault, you ended up there, you didn't work hard enough to get out of it." etc.... I'm glad I didn't grow up in a country or community with such sentiments...
But, that's just my 2 cents. I might have misunderstood your comment. I hope this gave somewhat of a different perspective on things. :)
Good luck to you~~ and again, you already sound like a great person to me :) (when I read your comment, I thought: "this is a person I would like to be friends with, they sound nice!")
You don't need to change anything or "every fiber" to fit any standard. You are already perfect as you are, to me :)
@@nattifrutti This comment actually made me cry. Thank you so much for your kindness. In case it wasn’t obvious, I am from America, and it’s SO nice to hear there are places where people don’t think like us. I’ve been unemployed for just about as long as this comments been up and boy have I been having trouble figuring out what I even want for my future. It feels like I can’t work hard enough to deserve any of it anyway, like I should jump at the first available opportunity no matter how exploitative or unfairly lacking. My toxic parents have been actively encouraging me to do this too. So yeah haha. America is truly the best am I right? (That was sarcasm)
From personal experience, I'm an extremely smart and capable person, but being that person puts extreme strain on my mental health. I purposely have a job that is less stressful for me even though I am skilled enough to be in a high level job. This allows me to put in less effort and still be better than most, while still managing my mental health
Masquerade, I’ve never been in your shoes, but through the experience you describe, you have it rough, buddy. I really don’t know how I can even help, I just hope it will turn out alright for you. Though I know sometimes it’s so hard not to in your situation, if anything, I hope you don’t overwork or force yourself in a way that would harm your overall well-being. I wish that if you can’t rely on you parents in your hard times, you will find someone to lend you a hand. Even if it’s some random redditors. Take care.
My mother always said, "You have worth simply because you exist." You are valuable just the way you are; you don't need to convince people of that. Try to love yourself. You are more amazing than you know.
I work as an engineer. I recently took up art as a hobby. Still, the advice you give here is pretty much universal. 99% of what you say holds just as true for Engineers.
This is the sweetest and softest "tough love" I've ever seen. I bet you're the cool relative in your family
Fr. Thought he was an asshole when I started watching it, but this was so helpful.
@@sopuruchindubuisi2354 i only watched because of the topic and cuz he reminded me of someone, butbmakes sense whybu thought that
Sopuruchi Ndubuisi thats his whole channel😂i love his vibes
As someone who's just finishing school and about to head out to internships and the big scary job hunt, I keep having to remind myself to keep a humble mentality, especially when interacting with people I'm hoping to get mentorship from.
Your videos are honest and real Ethan, and I'm really glad I stumbled across your channel at this point in my life.
thepsychocarrot What a nice friend you are!
Don't get too overly excited and friendly, keep in moderation in your first day. Some people found newbies with perky attitude a bit bothersome, especially in big studios with lots of people. You can be bit lively in small studio where people are actually close to one another.
When you get your job, first day of work can feel intimidating. Just keep your head straight. Just remember you are a rookie, and rookie job is to listen and learn. Being positive is okay, but not being too friendly and buddy buddy. You need to accustom with the working place and people will accustom to you. In due time you will have friend and trust from people.
This is what I feel what Janet Chan flaw is, because I've seen similar case. People like her ended up being drained on their own. That being said, it is good for her to venture out on her own. She can do what she wants. You can do the same too, but what you want right now is experience and knowledge, which you can get by working in the industry. Don't just work, learn the structure of the team, production work flow, etc. Talk to people in different departments.
Fuck that. People out here to exploit the passions of creative people. We shouldnt let them fuck us over like that.
i wish you all the luck!
I want to point the finger on Animation schools for makng the industry look so rose-tinted.
It actually comforts me to know that rejection is common and everyone goes through hardships. I did get an offer from a few prestigious institutes for animation but turned them down for a cheaper college nearby since i didnt want my dad spending all that money cause at the end of it its just like you say, its your own efforts and hardwork that pay off at the end of the day, not the college really.
I will admit getting frustrated over the fact that Disney didn't start out as a corporate company to begin with, but right now Disney is focusing more on the corporate side of things.
"Money is all that matters" only now she found out she lives in capitalism, how cute. It's gonna be a looong way for her...
Stick to art. Y'all clearly no nothing of what you're talking about here.
Also, her surprise comes from the fact that getting money was never a concern to her, which you can't have if you want to survive in the human world, not just in a capitalist one.
@AnotherOne uhhhh yes it is a wonderful system?... have you ever heard of animation studios in socialist countries?
Jesus...
@@gothofgapefuitton8252 nobody who says my guy has a valid opinion
@Gremlin Hunter vuvuzela
People need to eat what a suprise that people who rule stuff like disny, you know people who are not artist, they just are mangers and Accountants they do care about they mouny its what they are in for the studio is not all artist camp where they can do what ever they want, waht a suprise
Looks to me like she just burned a lot of bridges.
lain iwakura this comment didn‘t age well
lain iwakura she did, however she also has a point
limegecko what happened?
Clayton Bouldin I feel like I’m some way the public needs to know
@@claytonbouldin9381 I wish I had that job! I think it's all a matter of perspective, like what you said. I think this should be a reminder that life is hard and things don't go your way all the time. Don't complain, just pick up and move on. And also to read your contract. Disney makes it very clear that they are a corporation. Previous CEOs made many statements about that. It wasn't like they were hiding the fact that they aren't some freelance company where employees can make whatever they want whenever they want. Business-wise, if Disney allowed that then they would loose the brand they spent years developing.
This guy is the most American dude I’ve ever seen and I love it
when he starts waving his knife around and yelling
"Are ya gonna boo hoo or are ya gonna yeehaw"?
I love these vibes XD
dude an ant he said hee haw. Yee haw is a war cry for white people before they do some crazy mass murdering nonsense.
That’s because he’s a Texan!
Person that lives in japen I wonder what Americans are like: opens video.....closes video goes to nearest gun store (yes Japan has no gun store me no stupid) now owns that store and loves to do thing with knives.(I just noticed I have a link to season 4 of yokyuo ghoul re so here you go w1.tokyoghoulre.net)
It’s like a multiplayer video game, as you find friends and work together, you and your team mates level up to finally become the ultimate team
Of COURSE it's all about making money, these studios spend many millions to produce quality feature animations and there is no possible way they are going to simply hand over the control to someone who isn't established. Even if your the upmost incredible artist who's a hundred times more "creative" than the art director it just doesn't matter. The reality of the situation is that the studios will want someone who they believe will be the safest bet, who is most likely to not only get a return on investment but turn a profit. That type of thing really only comes with experience. You can't expect a mega corporation like Disney to invest fifty million in your first project with no corporate real experience, that would literally be crazy.
Anyways, her part about trying to shake the ladies hand made me cringe. The way it sounded to me was the lady was having a conversation with someone and she interrupted it. Perhaps the lady should have stopped talking to the other person and shook her hand to make her feel more welcome, but at the same time if your that butt-hurt over this then you DEFINITELY won't make a good director.
I think you definitely hit on something with the class thing. She seems like someone who's never had to work in food service or retail etc and be treated like human garbage sometimes because you need that paycheck no matter what.
Even being an artist and taking on clients will require a thick skin.
All the best of luck to her, I hope she figures out what works for her best. Great advice from you.
Yeah. It's almost like she is looking down on those who are desperate for an animation job. Like yes you would be desperate too if you were treated like shit at other jobs. People not shaking your hand? I've literally been assaulted in the foodservice.
@@kagurawinddemon ikr! No offense this chic would probably not last a second in customer service jobs. Not trying to bash her but i feel like she gives off all the wrong kind of vibes and as someone whos been like that(i was younger and stupider). You cannot have this idgaf attitude in any career let alone entertainment (i imagine,never worked in that industry) because people will turn their back on you.
I don't think that should mean that it's okay for her to be treated that way. Hell, it's not ok for anyone in any field to be treated that way. She was probably not expecting this considering she stated "I thought the petty highschool drama would be over." Plus she genuinely could have just the most stressful experience at that job since it's what she had been doing for the past 4 years now. Even if she had a job that was worse than the one she had at the time, that doesn't change that her job stil sucked for her and was sucking the life out of her. But that's just my personal opinion.
It's not okay, but literally every job on the planet works the same way. Want to be a pro wrestler? Then you're a crew member first. Want to make swords? Then you're an apprentice first. Want to direct large scale animation projects where you have complete creative control? Start drawing frames.
Every job is the same. You start at the bottom.
MsArt Garden Yeah it sounds like she was pretty sheltered and had to live for her parents expectations and prestige to make them feel good and build her esteem on all of that baggage,which is honestly a disastrous way to live but your whole 20’s is coming down from all of that. Unfortunately this is live and on the internet where everybody can see it, it’s gonna be so cringe for her to watch in 3 years even. I wish parents didn’t have such high expectations for their teens to go to big name places so they have flex cred, it does awful things to their kids like getting them into high debt and stressful situations their not ready for. There’s nothing wrong with lesser known art schools or junior colleges keep your spending and your expectations low kids and build your way up, it’s so much easier that way.
7:35 it sounds like she interrupted someone's conversation
Honestly?!?!? If that person "CONTINUED" to talk to the person they "WERE TALKING TO" that does mean you interrupted them 😂😂😂😂😂
this really do be a bruh moment
Biggest mistake she made was going into this job with the "I want" attitude. An employer doesn't hire you so you can do what you want. It's about what you can bring to the table and what you can do for them.
The second, she robbed herself of all the experience and knowledge that comes from working at a industry leading company with tons of knowledgeable people. The real education doesn't start in college. It starts the first day on the job.
I worked 5 years as a cog in the wheel at an ad agency out of college. Then worked at my own graphic art studio 13 years. Then worked at gaming companies for 8 years. Then switched to Photography for 15 years (and freelancing art). Then Directing movies, music videos etc. You have to be a cog in the wheel for a few years to gain experience and to build up your portfolio, and to meet people in the business.
shoemaking mentions: 2
it pays the bills
A pair of mentions
I need a poster on my wall that says
“ ARE YOU GOING TO BOOHOO OR YEEHAW!” - Ethan Becker 2020
SAME
Make one
I honestly don't buy merch from anyone, cuz I am poor as all heck, but I also want this. I will definitely buy this poster if he sells it xD
Same
That quote actually motivates me a bit
As I've gotten older, I feel I've become less motivated. However, you're one of the few people to actually genuinely inspire me to reach my goals in general. You're so unique, the passion is infectious.
7:05 i swear i get "if pewdiepie was an animator" vibes from this mad lad.
She: goes to a company to work for them
Company: tells her what she has to do for them
She: *surprised Pikachu*
You did you draw your profile picture
If so is really nice
@@clarkestrada5946omg yes, I drew him :')
Do you have a place you post your art cause I really like that style
@@clarkestrada5946 Omg... Yes, I have twitter account (under the same name) but sadly I don't have more arts yet, I have huge problems with focus and self-confidence :/ usually I don't finish my projects at all. This picture is literally the first one I (almost) finished and it's totally mine (not a redraw), I wouldn't even call it my "style"... Currently I'm trying to take drawing seriously, I'm definitely interested in more semi-realistic artstyle :)
people who have financial stability always suddenly don't care about money until they lose that stability lol
That isn't wrong. The big picture of an investment and economics is that sometimes you have to switch careers and focus to earn more money than you did before. She also saved money so she took her risk with a backup of funds. There is a smart way to save money and work towards earning more no matter how much money you have. your business plan depends on your specific situation.
@@MikazakiAoi exactly correct yes, my issue is when people act like it's vain to care about money suddenly. Like they overcame the evils of "materialism" or something when in reality all they gained was financial security and a pretentious attitude.
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 I agree on that. Theres an inherent arrogance to someone acting like that and they should be way more humbled and empathetic to others circumstances
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The comment had 3 comments but I ruined it 😓😅😂
This is the most powerful truth I'm coming to terms with now.
And honestly I admit that I fell into this trap during college but the best thing about making mistakes in college is that you can flip attitudes of nonchalance around and work from the bottom up in a real world situation.
"You have to play the game to play the game."
Janet decided that "the game" wasn't for her (and it isn't for many artists' personalities), and she made a decision to go her own way. Ethan also said that she would need to play the game to be at the top and hand off ridiculous notes to her underlings. I think one of the points about Janet leaving this corporate job is so that she won't need to perpetuate this vicious cycle, and perhaps try to create a company culture of her own, with different priorities. Perhaps it will or won't be as commercially successful as these other corporate media companies. However, she'll get to do things her way, and for many artists, that is kind of the point: Being able to make one's own decisions about art or work is one of the tradeoffs of being artist. A lot of times we will make less money doing that, but we already know this. I think Janet figured this out while she's relatively young, which is a good thing.
There are people who would excel in this corporate environment, and Janet realized that she isn't one of them, and that's a good thing.
I just watched her video, and this is how I feel as well.
Janet: *realizes it is what it is*
Also Janet: *switches to a different “it”*
I find the people calling her entitled and naiive to be disrespectful. People who have lost the ability to see reality for what it could be, and acknowledge their relationship to the world around them are not great people to be around. It’s like people who mock children for having dreams, or reinforce the messed up things about the world instead of fixing it to gain a sense of power over it.
I've just got to make a point here. One of the reasons I knew that there was a hierarchy in the animation industry was the movie credits. You would see a name barely mentioned at the very bottom where it's really hard to see climb slowly up to the top. They put the most important people first so you can track names at the bottom and watch their progress.
Sometimes it may take years for them to get a senior position but you still see their names movie after movie. It's not as though progress doesn't happen. It just didn't quite happen quickly enough for this girl. It still surprises me that she thinks they would trust a newbie with their multi-million dollar project.
I agree that Disney is getting stale, but that's not how you let in new blood. They let in new blood by saying,"hey, this person did a good job on this basic work. Let's go to them and see if they can offer something even better".
I don't know if I personally would want to work in an environment like disney. I don't do well in situations that require me to do fast, high pressure work. But if I felt comfortable with this and wanted to do animation work in that context, you bet I would be excited to get them their coffee and grateful to be there.
I would do everything to the best of my ability with a smile on my face, because every task would be an opportunity to learn and have a working relationship with these people. And at night, I would dream about my name being at the top of the credits.
Of course, this isn't an ideal world where I was suited for this kind of work. It may just be that she has trouble with hierarchy and feeling included, and that's okay. She could probably stand to learn more about being professional but there's nothing wrong with her going more solo if she doesn't feel suited to this kind of work.
On the topic of the naive students.....unfortunately most universities emphasize this mindset onto their students instead of preparing them properly for the real world.
Don't you mean za waldo
ZA WAAARUDOOO!!!
N-NANI?!
if you tell the students that they'll be able to follow their dreams and do whatever they want, it's easy to make them go into debt for you :)
@@NihongoWakannai that hit deep in my kokoro
“Disney messed with my Janet”
Ugh, this is the same artist who started drama with lord gris. She accused her of stealing and copying her work and just made herself look like a fool on insta. Seems like she just wants to gain clout from doing stuff like this. I’m not saying there aren’t issues with the creative industry, but she seems so entitled. Art like anything else is hard work. It’s also silly to think you have to spend a lot to get anywhere. I went to a community college and transferred to get my BFA. I have the same mindset as you, Ethan. I grew up in a low income, rural town, I worked multiple jobs while I was in college and had to bust my ass to be where I am now. I’m not some famous big artist, but I didn’t want to be like those around me. I didn’t want to be stuck in factory or retail work the rest of my life, and my creative endeavors are the only thing I knew I wanted to focus on. There’s tons of artists that come from areas where there are no art schools or no creative careers and yet they make something of themselves. You can literally have nothing and make something out of it. That’s what makes us creative, we adapt, we change and we use what’s around us, but going into an art field is a grind. I’m surprised she didn’t feel that hardship while in school.
She seems like she just needs to know how relationships in a work environment work.
She is the kind of person who hate being told to do the most basic things. I am too, that's why I freelance.
Exactly! It’s just knowing where you fit in and self realisation. Nobody knows where to put their energy into at first.
I don’t agree with her video and how it may affect students but the amount of pr she got
This is so mood
yeah, every time a client asks for a correction, in my head I'm like "ahhhh, fuck off" but then I just do the work, get the money, and move on.
6:08 I'm not too knowledgeable of the animation industry but considering she worked at disney company and saying she expected to be able to Create her own movie/show And saying the reality is a lie when she's only worked there for 4 years //no offense// is a tad bit much on her ego??
giving the opportunity to create your own show/movie in the name of a big well known & dominating company to a person whose only had 4 years of work experience, nawww lmao
yeah, that part really rubbed me wrong. If she had worked there 20 years and then complained about not being a larger part of the company, it would make sense but 4 years is basically the end of her baby steps imo.
Honestly, She must not have ever heard what Disney did to the creators of “Treasure Planet”.
I mean the majority of the company (Disney) directors have been in the industry for 20+ years. Full adult who’ve been there forever. I know it’s hard but I mean, I’m not surprised that she wasn’t directing after 4 years , I think build your skills and work hard. Put your ideas out and try but understand if your not chosen straight away.
@@kendrabell5217 what they did was sick, im gonna bet they did that to atlantis.
@@kendrabell5217 what happened?
Is sad... cause she got herself an offer most of us animators can only dream of... Not because she lacked skill but Humility, respect and proper social skills....
The first thing my animation drawing teacher taught us was to have a long service towel and willing to learn... to be humble...
Your dream is like a ship, you build your own while you work and ride on someone else's or you grab a few sticks, build a raft, and start there. Overall you'll need an adventurous mindset to keep you motivated.
“Let’s be an adult.” says the guy with a broken cigarette hanging out of his mouth and his microphone clipped to a knife and a cleaver. lol
@@Lee-wb5yx that's the most important part
@@veridiumundaunted7978 exactly. remember kids, always cover em up. your cigarettes butts ofc
and he's so qt just by doing those xD
@@Lee-wb5yx it's all about protection. Knife & rubber. Be *responsible*
Can't get more yeehaw then that
*DON'T YOU EVER WORK FOR DISNEY*
I thought this was common knowledge
Its good to get recognition though, if youre a animator. Just the work experiences in Disney alone would likely land you a job on your prefered place.
Vs
Barely have anything at all, and have to build a online personality just to show something.
Unless you have a connection and manage to get in Gobélin or PSA Animations as a student etc...
Looks nice on your resume tho
Aw she seems super sweet. An independent artist. You go girl! Smart idea. Haha! I’ll be working at Disney soon though lol! But hey proud of you for doing your own thing
I remember my dad telling me how to behave on the job interview to be hired and I just know that if he had seen that video by then he would have sat me in front of the screen, pointed at her, and said: "don't be like her".
It's kind of terrifying how close he holds the knife to his face
Lol
it's prolly blunt- *bluntly sharp*
when you said something like "this aint something new you just found out about it" oh damn ethan really popped off
You're absolutely right. An artist needs to persevere. I was turned down for art center, but I've still worked professionally full time for the last 25 years. You take the crap jobs, work hard, get better, and work your way up. That's real life. That girl is the poster child for millennials.
I think one of the problems in all industries is that many people have lots of mental and psychological problems that aren't capable to be decent bosses or co-workers. You go to school to learn a skill but not many learn the values and human skills to work with other people. They might have all the experience in the world, become head of companies, but dealing and working with others makes it difficult.
He said at the end of the video that what she said is what other artist say in close doors. If you are a good artist, wanting to grow and help the company, but you are faced with people that feel threatened by your skill or even your work ethic, and you are still growing as an artist, that's when you start hearing complaints from young artist. Some learned to cope with people like them and are able to grow patiently and prudently on any industry.
Being a show runner is like 80% businessman and being a good artist/writer is just an added bonus. Its always been this way and its not because of the outcome of capitalism. You need to sell your product (your idea/art), and that requires good entrepreneurship. If youre just good at art, expect to be a cog if youre not going to freelance.
The “playing hard to get” / “don’t care” attitude is stupid. Why do people expect other people to like them, if they act like they don’t care about them at all? I mean, if someone acts like they don’t care about me, I’m not going to care about you, because you didn’t care about me in the first place 🤷🏻♀️ geez, do we really have to explain that?
Well yeah the basis of playing hard to get is knowing that you yourself is worth “getting”. Like how a hot girl can play hard to get, but a ugly one can’t. Sounds to me like she was playing hard to get and everyone else didn’t think her skills were actually up to snuff
Half the time (or probably more), a person playing "hard to get" is not actually hard to get. They just don't want to date you and people just tell themselves "oh, they're playing hard to get!" to feel entitled to pester that person again and again and again when they just don't want to have anything to do with you. Then there's those who play hard to get for real and are surprised that the other person doesn't come back... it's never a good strategy.
Love this sentiment from Ethan (paraphrased a bit): "A lot of kids and students are naive. Not due to lack of experience of skills, but lack of experience in life's situations. Not being raised in money, I understood as a baseline of my life that I had to take my external expectations, the expectations of the world (expecting the world to hand feed me everything) and bring them down, and take them as internal expectations that if anything's getting done, it's by me. Nobody else is gonna do it. Nobody's ever done it in my life. It's on me baby. Ain't no money doing that, ain't no parents doing that. It's me.
I'm talking about getting what you want, I'm talking about working your way up... Get on that level. Other people out there may not have been given the tools, the resources to think in this way. This is handling constant destroyed expectations. Constant rejections, constant negativity. And I gotta say, for some people... this is their everyday. It's not something new. You haven't found anything new, it's just new to you."
thank you for taking the time to transcribe this
"are ya gonna boo hoo or are ya gonna yee haw?!" please make that a shirt lol
wow that was a great talk man. I tell the same mindset to my students when I used to teach. Positive attitude attracts positive people and situations. Like you I I came from humble beginnings. A lot of put downs from extended family and I took that and used it to push me to succeed. I am sure we will meet one of these days , you run in the same circles as some of my friends. I wonder if we already met tho... I can't believe I am just discovering your channel now. Great work on being polarizing ! Its soo funny! Your titles for each video are great , you cant help but wanna click on it.. you rapscallion :P
“Hate the player don’t hate the game”
This needs to be framed and put on all school gates.
Pain olympics would like to know your location
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Oh and i lost the game
and on the school principals themselves because *_extreme bias_*
I think that can be taken the wrong way somehow 😂
It depends
I totally agree with your statement, “you can’t just blame the system.” But I don’t think this should mean “you can’t criticize the system.” I think healthy critical thinking is important, especially when it comes to big corporations. Disney, Nintendo, Google, etc... they’re not your friends. People criticizing capitalism isn’t the problem.
Your job is not to decide what gets made. That's an entire career path she didn't pursue. She wanted to be an artist, and that's the job she signed up for. Want to make big boy choices? Become an investor.
@@MegaJufy you literally missed the entire point of this person comment jfc not very big boi of you.
Anyway go watch Bong Joon-ho's Parasite 💅
Despite how unromantic capitalism is, any other alternatives are doomed to fail if it does not appeal to the unpredictable nature of economics. Critical thinking is great, but you still need to play the game if you want to excel in it or rattle the cage.
without capitalism there is no disney, frankly there is no entertainment industry at all. There is nothing more capitalist than spending 10 bucks on popcorn to watch a movie on a 20 foot screen with massive speakers...and I'm perfectly fine with that lol.
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 you can have a more friendly form of capitalism imo if my country and neighbouring countries have figured out more friendly capitalism then others can to. America in particular is one of the worst offenders.
She also started accusing this other artist of stealing her work even though it was completely different designs with unoriginal ideas that anyone could use.
Listen, your advice here is even really useful for me in my current barista job. My coworkers here are being more mean to me than I’ve dealt with in any job, ever. But instead of quitting and writing it off as a “bad job” I’m trying to look at it as a training ground to advocate for myself and find respectful ways to tell them the comments they’re making to me are not how polite humans converse with each other, and that, actually, that stuff is really painful. I’m still trying to navigate the situation, but I’m hoping that in the end, we all learn something so our arcs trend positive!
I want a shirt that says "you gonna boo hoo or yeehaw" lol
When in times like these, I always think back the journey of the legendary Japanese animation director Hayao Miyazaki and how he came to be. (you can correct me if I'm wrong on this one). The guy didn't started out in an animation school hell not even an Japanese equivalent of an art school, he came from a law school background. Ones he get to the animation industry, he didn't start out making his own animation, he was an In-betweener. The most disposable, grulling, and unforgivable job in the animation industry. Sure, you heard about the people who make amazing key frame and composition, but tell me 1 in-betweener from the top of your head you can think of that reach world fame. That's what I thought.
The guy GRINDS his way to the top while having a grafic novel on the side called "naseka and the valley of the wind" (with he later adapted in to a movie). The first movie he directed was an astablis franchise and you can imaged how much creativity control you have on that.
All and all, she seems like someone who didn't do enough research. She expected to be handed down a position of creativity director just because her art looks good (maybe if she has build her animation portfolio in her college day, maybe she'll have an easier time) but I digress. I wish her the best of luck on her journey.
I think it's a fairly good point except that you can not take into considerations that Miyazaki started in a different era with way less competition than today (not saying that he didn't deserve the success that he got). My dad started his career in advertising working at a radio when he was only a teen( he was 14 when they hired him as an apprentice) and he became a speaker in just a few years. Now getting such job would take 5 times more effort, money and education just to stand out from the crowd.
@@Elena-es1xt yeah, i agreed. my parents didn't nag on me coming back to their house to live like a neckbeard in their mama's basement.
Boomer generation is the most privileged generation, my parents understand this.
they don't compare their material achievement to me because they knew back then it's cheaper to buy a nice house rather than a working car. it's easier to get a high paying job. back then all they need is to fill the application form from the government for free high paying job training. and there are no corporate slavery job.
i didn't know the rock bottom has a 7th story basement, and i'm in it. i quit my 6 years of corporate slavery job. i cant even cover the cost of the maintenance living in my mom's 2 bedroom apartment. not the rent cost because its free, but the building maintenance and electricity. shame? i eat it like a breakfast.
i hope everyone struggling can survive and thrive.
*Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind.
One in betweener that reached world fame? Miyazaki LOL
Jokes aside I agree with you
Some of her points I've taken. Quite true! Learning Art does cost a lot money. And It is true or not depending how good and patient you are with it. For example, a person who pays only $1500 for a 3 months course to study digital painting and art foundation comparing to a person full pay $15000-35000/years to go Art Univeristy, the $1500 guy's portfolio is still better than the college guy's. Why? Because he only focuses on practicing in that 3 months. And college guy are distracted you from it by forcing you taking electives, but most good art college students are not affected by this distraction but its like 70% number of students in a class will be. And again, study hard, good relationship with colleagues, patience & passion, and practice will cost you less-ish money.
She is right only that point though, what she said the rest are quite ridiculous.
I love your videos that seem like art industry advice, but are actually teaching life skills. I feel like I saw this at just the right time
The way Ethan talks about these things are so great. He talks about things that you are doing wrong, whether it’s a mindset or actions, then he looks at your side, and then he offers Advice to improve Upon it.
i think everyone who comes into this industry has a romanticized outlook on it when they first start. I blame those DISNEY BEHIND THE SCENE videos from the old VHS time. In all you learn that you are making something for a company. You are there to help them realize this show/movie, and not to make your own personal projects. I am a firm believer that artist should do their own thing, but when it comes to clients realize that you are helping with a directors vision, not your own. I appreciate your attitude about this. I know a few people in the industry who just shut her down, and act like she should just shut up but that's not how you treat people. We are allowed to feel what we feel, but we need to smart about the consequences. The renaissance of Disney came from that youthful mentality of wanting to do better and old guys saying shut up and just work. so she shouldn't stop doing that. Just be a little more political.
the mouse has amazing pr
@@roseclouds5838 yeah they do.
While true for some, im sure its not all. I for one got into game art knowing full well thst the industry is a dumpster fire and workers get treated like trash. But thst doesnt mean im okay with it or will just accept it. I like making game art, i have a passion, and im sick and tired of people getting away with abusing and exploiting the passion of people in creative fields. They know full well that creative people arent usually very confident folks with high self esteem. No, they know most of us are desperate and they use that. Its time for that shit to stop and slowly things are changing for the better.
JayJay Golden I can only speak for the animation industry and the conversations I’ve had with people. I’ve heard horror stories about the game art industry from a few friends, so I get this. I’ve only worked with Indy companies myself so I can’t speak much. What you say I honestly agree with, but creatives should also research market value for the work they do so they can bargain. You can research entry level pay online or ask a pro and they can give you a heads up on how much companies should pay you. I’m glad to see the industry changing for the better though.
@@tadlambert4236 Yeah. I can agree with that. Always work hard. Can't get to the good bosses if you don't. I've had a boss tell me i'll never amount to anything though, and everyone in the office seemed so broken and unwilling to move forward in their art. But i try to not let it get to me, but it does make it hard to stay motivated to do anything for him
She definitely sounds like an entitled wealthy kid.
The fact that she went to Art Center and got hired by Disney. People would kill to have what she has. Now reality slapped her across the face.
TitanSubZero15 day it again please 👏🏾👏🏾
@@TitanSubZero15 a new free place appear at disnay ;)
@@missplays7875 wow...I hope you keep that attitude and I hope you achieve what you want to achieve (I genuinely mean it)
@@lucasrazao2353 Explain.
I love these videos.
They're really inspiring as I have finally started a small batch of comissions for friends.
I am thankful for these videos... Kind of gives me hope that I can actually do this.
Very insightful, very well spoken...and promo gag at the end IS THE BEST DAMN THING!
Why couldn’t she just work at a different studio? She might’ve had a better experience
It’s probably because she had a bad experience at a studio already she doesn’t want to experience the same experience again so she just doesn’t want to work at another studio and have a chance where she experiences it again (sorry for my bad explanation)
@@daichi3873 well that's kind of a lazy mindset. if she really genuinely wanted to have a career in animation then she would have tried her luck with any animation studio that she could. obviously she didn't want it that badly.
@@daichi3873 that's just bullshit. If I go to a company for work and I don't like it there then I just shouldn't work at all? Some people needs to get out of their bubble.
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I don't think getting a job in any of these companies is easy, you can't just decide "Oh, I didn't like Disney, I guess I'll go to Dreamworks", it was a privilege and she just threw it away
Pretty sure I learned in Etiquette that you only shake offered hands and don't offer hands to higher ups.
More people need to see this comment.
Not everyone knows that haha plus it doesn’t take much to shake someone’s hand regardless of etiquette rules. But thanks for saying that I’ll remember that for future interactions.
@@MewSakura12 So when I went to register myself for this dance/etiquette course I was super nervous and sweated like never before for some reason and since I didn't know anything about Etiquette I offered my hand as I said goodbye and the man was hesitant, but then, out of kindness and seeing that I really just wanted to be nice but was absolutely clueless, he shook it, despite me being all sweaty... I hate that memory and I wish he would have told me that I wasn't supposed to offer my hand, since I went there to learn that in the first place. He even made this a point in one of the first lessons. Doesn't mean I didn't like him. In fact he was a very funny and good teacher,I just have no time for that course anymore.
Kilian Starzengruber ohh interesting! I’d love to take an etiquette class! Maybe I’m just ignorant but I don’t think it’s common knowledge :/ I wish the woman she put her hand out to shook it like your teacher he sounds like a wonderful man
@@kilianstarzengruber6835 I wouldn't have done the hand shake thing thats too formal I would have walked around said hi to everyone and started working.
"ARE YOU GONNA BOO HOO OR ARE YOU GONNA YEE HAW?!"
I seriously want that on a golden plaque above my desk.
I'm not even an art person but I'm so glad I somehow found this video. You are an amazing communicator and I really admire how you can give valuable life advice in such simple, easy to understand terms while still being empathetic and hilarious. I really needed to hear "are you gonna yeehaw or boohoo" rn lol. Thank you so much and keep being awesome
The complaint video point you made is solid about burning bridges. But Open Letters like one that circulated concerning RWBY and Rooster Teeth are pretty bad too. It's extremely unprofessional and makes people not want to work with you for fear of being subject to your next Public Rant.
People think it's okay to bitch and whine and think they'll get the jobs in these areas.
@@BrokensoulRider tbh RWBY sucks ass its a public opinion at this point so he won't get criticized that much unless youre already in that small fandom.
People cant differentiate "job" and "hobby"
I aint a professional artist, but I think the line between those two is pretty hazy in the world of art. At least expectation made it so. Having a job that perfectly suits your hobby is almost a miracle.
If i'm an artist, i would prepare myself to work 7-9 and chased by deadlines. It would be tedious but THAT is a job. On the weekend, I prolly make some small project with my friends.
@@DOT107 This is true. Considering Miles and Kerry are idiots who can't write a story to save their lives and won't hire professional directors and animators, and Monty died so there's no more consistent fluid amazing fight scenes, the show's pretty mediocre and pacing is terrible.
And this is coming from someone who watches it knowing full well it's strength and weaknesses. The DC comics are fucking horrendous and are written with the characters so poorly OOC, it's like a 14y/o made a fan fiction. Rooster Teeth is basically a bunch of hobbyists who just don't seem that professional at all.
@@BrokensoulRider i personally think its absolutely ridiculous that is "not okay"
Were all fucking humans we deserve to be treated as such. Why let corporate suits exploit your passion and desperation. Have some self respect.
"I'm animation!" Might be the most badass thing an animator can possibly say.
You are right man learning never stops and somehow whatever u learn in our field it always paysoff someday sometime and never wasted.
As a guy who has worked in service his entire life. I'm always blown away by the people who have no clue what a truly crappy job is and how they have no idea how blessed they are not to know. Mainstream comics is full of these people right now.