the O̲N̲E̲ art tip you were never told: listen to this every time you hate your art
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2021
- this video is more of a personal thing for me- please share the message with friends who need to hear it
the art tip is at 08:55 - The problem: some people feel like they aren't good enough. My Solution: positive arrogance. Move forward with the pretense that you belong. thoughts?
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Holy shit how did you read my mind I am feeling like this today
hi
0:36 amogus
First of he didnt read your mind since that's impossible. And who says you were the only one with the same thing in that tiny mind of yours. And why did you get pinned for such a simplistic comment? Am I envious or jealous ?
@@livetochange974 stay mad
@@waitwhat9150 never mind I wont be spreading hate anymore Ethan deserves better than my nonsense here
Remember it’s not arrogant to like yourself or want happiness
@phobicpigeon clearly I feel more hatred towards others since the moment I got arrogant. Clearly your concept isnt working on anybody. You people forgot individuals are different from each other
@@livetochange974 I think you're confusing being proud of oneself with feeling superior to others. Because from what I've noticed, people who like themselves dwell less on hate
@@sugar_cube_draws arrogant is when you think you are better than your surroundings or everyone in general. Definitely not the trait of a kind sympathetic person. im arrogant and clearly im not giving you a nice impression right now am i?
@@livetochange974 you see, you're mixing up confidence and arrogance. One is trusting ones capabilities while the other is offensive display of superiority or overbearing pride.
@@livetochange974
INSLUTING MY DOG, MY KNIFE, MY JAPANESE CIGARETTE, saying it's BrOken
Saying Ethan isn't the answer, ART IS ALWAYS THE ANSWER!!!
i just wanted an art lesson,but this man cured my social anxiety
Your dog is beautiful
Ikr 😭
Same, I have pretty bad social anxiety that Ive been working on, THIS MAN just give me a huge boost of confidence...
Ik
Then you obviously didn't even have social anxiety in the first place
„Talk confidently about the things you DO know
And be excited - be EXCITED - about the things you DON‘T know“
-Ethan Becker
Words to live by
If anyone is looking for the time stamp: 6:35
I don't know why, but that sentence made me cry 🥲
🙂
"Respect the only person that matters here, me.....you"
I fucking love you😂
He's presenting the Mask he's talking about to create for yourself
Sad thing is that most people hate it when someone believes in themselves.
YES
I really felt this
never heard truer words
Sooo true
huhu i got called a narcissist for saying i'm okay with how i am as a person 😌
My parents were always weird about my art. They liked bragging about it but they'd also make sure to tell me I probably wouldn't get very far with it.
Same! I have a RUclips channel where I post my Drawing process, my parents tell my relatives that I have a RUclips channel and one of my video has this much views and so on and then my parents say having a RUclips channel is useless and it's not gonna help me get anywhere.
@@ArtBubble I guess they're trying to cover all of their bases by heaping praise on you but also giving you a dose of "realism" in case it fails?
I mean cool motive but still kinda sorta sabotage?
Really glad I never considered art quittable! I hope you do too!
Felt this on a spiritual level. My art used to be showcased and had my heart poured into it, but after my mentor died people said it'd be too competitive and not original. My art has regressed since I went on a three year hiatus because of feeling like I wasn't good enough as a person in general. Ethan Becker and Ergo Josh really inspired me to get back into it. 💙
@@mekidunston so glad you're back into it!
EXACTLY THIS. it made me very very confused on what to do as a child. they would praise it and i would have all the strength but 2 seconds later they would be tearing it down
This hit me hard; my parents were abusive and I was a child who drew ALL THE TIME until the lack of praise and intense bullying cracked me and I crumbled. I stopped. For years. I had one art teacher who tried to explain to my parents why I should study art in my further education but it fell on deaf ears. I became terrified to pick up a pencil for years... I'm now 41 and it was only last year, due to lockdown, I had to find something to do... so I have picked up my pencil and it's still tough as my parents' cruel remarks still bounce around my head... but I'm giving it a go... my inner child deserves another chance.
I highly respect and admire you Ethan. Thanks for all your talks and advice...
proud of you man
Dude thnx. I'm in the same boat. Now I'm drawing again, keep it up!!!!
I’m so sorry.
You're a strong man
*virtual hug*
10:03 "I have no reason to be aggressive or angry" *is holding butcher knife*
Meat cleaver to be precise.
Thats all where the aggression goes so he doesnt have to act it out. Its a magical staff of control
Why's he holding it though.
My mom passed on a bit of advice to me that has been incredibly useful
"Act like you're supposed to be there until someone tells you you're not."
Applying that statement has gotten me to a lot of places that otherwise I would have been too afraid to go
Ah! That's some lovely advice! I have been doing that as well and have gotten some good results, but seeing it in words makes me reassured.
Generally helps if you’ve got a notepad and a clicky-pen, just to sell it. And take notes.
A clipboard, a tie, and sometimes a helmet can give you access to almost any site.
@@DonVigaDeFierro I’m just imagining trying to get into a construction site, with a clipboard and the helmet of a Roman Centurion.
I am going write your mother's advice down somewhere in my sketchbook. If you do not mind.
As a Asian this hits hard, I’ve always been self conscious, I’ve always been told I wasn’t good enough, when I get 90 on a test they will say why didn’t you get a 95, and when I got a 95 they will say why didn’t you get a 100. I was really into math and science when I was 12, I told my parents I wanted to go to MIT for college, my father laughed at my face and asked “you? You wanted to go to MIT?” Through out my 17 years of life there’s no what I want, there’s only what my parents want, what they believe what I need, to a point where they well tell me how much I should eat..
You deserve to live life the way you want, to make mistakes, to choose your own path. It's your life, not theirs, it's your one and only life on this planet. Shame on your parents for trying to take that away from you.
I have a European mother who does all these things, know you are not alone and your pain is understood. I hope your life has gotten better, know your parents will need you later in life, and they will be forced to respect you then. Though, I may not know how your parents are so please do that at your own pace. I hope you have a wonderful day.
My parent too also did this when I was younger. They will told me not to draw because they're afraid that I will stuck at my own world.
I feel you. Just to let you know, you are good enough, and your work is great. Us asians must stick together!
I know this feeling.. my dad always underestimate me.
"You need to respect the only person that matters here... Me- You, respect you"
- Ethan Becker - 04 - 19 - 2021
I was raised split between being good enough and not good enough. My mom always believed in me while my dad not so much and it's very chaotic in my mind.
ou yEAH
And it's a tug of war in the mind constantly.
Damn, same. Feel my father underestimated me while my mother overestimated me. My mother brought me up whilst my father brought me down. Basically i dont feel that great, but i know im not bad. But i want to be great.
My parents always believed i have skills but never supported me or maybe they don't know or understand what i need because I've never asking for anything that might burden them 😂
I'm not into this deep shit
i just wanna draw fox cheeks
Ethan as an African American artist, this spoke to me even though I'm not an Asian. My parents never supported my interests and now are scrambling to find a way to get me to college. I was constantly berated and even threatened if I became an artist. I seen this trend in minority families and I'm happy that you brought attention to it.
Edit: please be careful to not start a race war
I am white. I noticed the trend as well. Hopefully you succeed as a artist.👍🏻
As an half white and asian boi I’m super lucky to have parental figures that support my artistic endeavours. Hopefully you succeed as an artist and always know there are people who do support you.
same, they even try to destroy your interests and hobbies, only talk about grades, even got a place at a regional art contest and they told my school I was busy.
Follow your dreams brother, dont let anyone else tell you otherwise. Going to college will not result in a happy life if you dont major in something you love.
Pursue art until the end brother, and stay strong even if the only one encouraging you is yourself 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
For the most part, parents just want to see their child succeed and when it comes to minorities or working class families making money comes from 9 to 5 jobs. I think most just want to see their child with what they deem to be a stable career.
So basically:
-understand you place and skills
-respect and like yourself
-understand that you can be better if you want, you just need some practice and good learning
-respect others, and understand that others have their place too
Thank you so much
My dad hammered into me that I'm immediately a narcissist when I feel good about something I did... My dad's a narcissist. He just doesn't want other people to put him in his place.
I learned how to draw because he told me I was bad at it and it made me mad, so I wanted to prove him wrong.
And I did.
And I continue to do it.
And I had teachers call me a genius.
And I know my art isn't the best, far from it. But I also know that I'm the only one that can draw like that. There is no second person on earth, that can draw the way I do and that has the same ideas I have.
Cool
@@Chappelroanfan ??
Darn straight. Love your energy.
You showed him, and you showed yourself you could do it
Mad respect 🤗 power to you
12 years graduating from an art school...I let my demons win. I deleted my social media, switched numbers, went homeless. Haven't talked to my friends for over 8 years cus of my shame. Don't make the mistake I've made, you are all capable of achieving ur dream. Thanks for giving me the confidence Ethan.
you should reach out..... its never too late to make an effort! and if they were true friends they would still be thrilled to see you
hey, you should try reaching them out, who knows, I'm sure they miss you
"respect the only person that matters... me- you" I SNORTED
edit; made this comment on a whim but honestly Ethan, this video reassured me so much. Everyone I hope you know you are worth it and to strive to do what makes you the happiest.
Sameee-
I am the funniest RUclipsr of all time I watched my latest video and laughed for 69 minutes straight I am extremely funny I am dangerously funny and I have two girlfriends who think I am extremely dangerously funny and they watch all of my videos thanks for listening dear tori
@@AxxLAfriku I- dude if you’re trolling that is gold
@@tatesmcsnates4384 no, it is not
@@sthaim1920 k, I’m not really like sure how to respond, I laughed at the comment bc it was obviously out there, but hey, humor is different, think what you may lmao.
My best friend sent this to me and I feel so grateful to have someone like her
As an Asian, this is very true, Asian parents care abt results, talent and compare their children tirelessly and it just sinks every Asian kids heart being compared to other kids who have better grades better support. I’m 13 and have cried myself to sleep several times bcs growing up scared of my parents doing my best bcs of it ignoring everything and then when they get disappointed it just hits u how bad u are “compared” to other people, whilst ignoring your efforts completely.
I was raised saying that "art is for recreation and Nothing worth investing in."
As an artist, it created a negative chains that I drag constantly.
ethan with his mic taped onto that bigass knife is a mood
Bruh gabi
@@loyaltheoristgirl1018 gettin chomped on by a horse no less
I was not prepared for the message this video was gonna have, but I'll still watch it
Then why the fuk did you watch if you weren't prepared what? Whatever just watch it I guess why make such a big fuss?
Ignore him 👆as we always do, and move along guys.
@@user-pt5cl2ro6f I stopped spreading hatred for 5 months here and this is how you pay me back ? Ignoring won't keep my rage at bay for long
@@livetochange974 Maybe if you're stop being an asshole, not because you stopped spreading hatred for 5 months and hoping for a pay back they will stop dude, but nooo.
@@livetochange974 there literally is no need to come at them like that? All they said was they didnt expect the message of this video..they ended up enjoying it and watching it.
im half pakistani and my entire family pulled the "we worked so hard to give you a good life and you wanna do art??" thing over and over again and my ambition to be an animator is completely crushed. like i don't think i'll ever want to professionally pursue it again because of the repeated unsupportiveness in these past 5 or so years :( this makes me feel a little better though :)
These types of parents make my blood boil..
I have the somewhat opposite problem honestly.
I mean.... being an animator is what your good life would be, right? I changed my career from business to animation when I was 27, just cause it really bothered me that I had not given it a try and felt like I was finally ready to make the switch. I was unable to get money for a proper school so I went a different route but was privileged to have some savings to afford to not work for a while and had very little to lose. Noone really understood why I was giving up a successful 7-year career but I know myself, I can't pursue three different career paths at once, I need focus. So I just calmed down and made an independent decision for myself that only I would be responsible for. If anything, you may arrive at the point where you're ready to independently pursue what you want - it may not be the standard path into the industry but you'll feel accomplished and that's the most important thing.
It's so sad to equate animation with unsupportiveness of your parents - if anything, you could just focus on genuine things that you find interesting. For me it was learning animation principles and watching visual development courses. When you start to learn and get into exercises, making things move - the external nagging voices kinda get drowned out and even if you don't ever pursue animation, that knowledge is still valuable. Like shape language, effective silhouette - good design principles are universal.
It's so strange when adults blame their children for the decisions they made - if it was selfless, they'd accept that what they really worked for was the complete freedom of choices you are now able to face. Instead most only work hard for a fixed future they envision with zero flexibility. Good luck with whatever you decide! Hope your genuine love and curiosity for animation survives this
Do 3D Animation.
Every person on the earth has a different spark/ambition. Whilst we're made from our parents, we are not them. You do you. If not now, when you're free of the constraints of your family.
I always wanted to be involved with animation. I ended up in an entirely different career that involved a lot of study. But now, I have decided to dedicate a couple of years to skilling up on something I have always, always wanted.
Thank you for this I feel like crying
When I was little, my mom never praised me for anything, and everything was never enough for her.
In elementary, I was playing violin at a high school level. I was one step away from becoming part of the national-level figure skating team.
So I quit. She didn't think my music was good, she didn't think I "needed" skating.
I was a kid. I couldn't think for myself that what she said came from a point where she didn't want me to grow up arrogant because she praised the hell out of my younger sister for the same things. For her drawings, for her music. Even spent more on her starting equipment than my current equipment that I had to use for years when it was on the verge of breaking.
So now, none of those skills are left, and though my mom tries to make up for it, I feel a part of me was always broken from back then. And I couldn't be the same now even if I tried.
if you get no love
that does not mean you cant share love
I'm so sorry for you man, words can't explain how shattered i feel. I was always raised kind of like your sister. I was praised for my creativity, and my parents support anything i do. To hear someone else have their childhood be like that and grow into adulthood permanently, i feel very sorry. I wish you the best.
I like you Ethan, and I have a lot of respect for what you teach.
Thank you
Thank you for all the value y'all bring to us 🥺
Yo? THE Adam Duff? This is infinity war levels of crossovers lol
He dosent teach for free and earns thousands of dollars from these videos he posts. If anything he should be careful you fanboys exists that always fill his pockets to the max
@@livetochange974 okay?
@@bbittercoffee not okay anymore
I was always good at drawing, but I also was good with physics and mathematics. So I got accepted to a very good prestigious highscool for science (without exams) - I was the only one of my class, everybody was envious of me. But my dad said - no, your drawings are too good, you're going to artschool. So as much as I wanted to go to science school with my friends. I had to prepare to the very hard exams to artschool - they needed a portfolio of 15 artworks, which I did in 2 weeks.. So I finished artschool and fine arts college. Now I'm a pro-artist, I earn great salary at a very nice studio and I do art for myself too. I owe this to my dad. World probably lost a scientist in me but I love it now and I will be forever greatful to my dad for believing in me that much.. Yeah, you probably won't hear much of a fun stories like that hahaha By the way my dad was a doctor
You're a great person
@@p1ntu_ I try my best :D Though it probably requires more than just skills
This video hit me. In an extremely uncomfortable way. I think it was exactly what I needed to hear. I'm going to take a moment to reflect about myself and how I can go to the next step, since I've been stuck in this one for so long.
Thanks Ethan, your channel is full of videos that help me. This one is my favorite and it is by far the one that made me think the most.
"Man, I suck.. I can't do anything right.. I don't deserve to be where I am and where I want to be.. Everyone else is so much better than me, I don't belong."
Everyone: "Nooo! You are great and you know that! Cmon, have a little confidence in yourself, you deserve this!!"
"You know what, you are right. I am good enough! My work is good. I AM good!"
Everyone: "Uhm.. ew, that's so pretentious of you. No one likes arrogant people!"
This is so accurate!
Human minds are too complicated for our own good.
That's their shadow talking to them 😃
People seem to want you to have self confidence but never display it- how else are they supposed to make you feel good if you dont need them to build you up. (At least thats my theory)
Thing thats helped me move forward is realizing how much people try to project their own shortcomings unto your road to your dreamjob or success. They’ll support you when you’re clearly not making any progress and actively tearing yourself down, but the second they realize that you have a shot at success and are getting closer to your dream job, it hits their ego and suddenly they start bashing you for being (finally) confidant
"When you praise a child of being creative, they keep on doing it"
something i agree with, basically my case. This one's amazing read it.
My art teacher in 6th grade told us to draw a light bulb which he had put in front of the whole class, it was a Still Art project. I wasn't very good at arts myself ( i was bad trust me), so I kept on drawing without any motivation to really draw the Jar but just to wait for the class to end. The steely texture of bulb I didn't know anything about i had mistakenly erased a part of the metal structure of the bulb in my drawing (also i wasn't very much looking at the bulb infront of me) which made it look like the metal surface was reflecting off light (without me realizing it) . I gave it to my art teacher, he saw the drawing, i expected him to like just take the drawing so i was going back to my seat, he stopped me and called me and said "this thing with the metal you just did, its amazing, you have potential to become a good artist". That phrase, that phrase just had such an impact on me ( as i wasnt even expecting it and it just sort of yk opened my eyes and created a spark in me which was that "i can draw"), fast forward after some years in my 10th grade i had won the School championships in art and crafts with a 1st position. I know I'm not good enough but I'm still doing it. its amazing how such little phrases can change someone that much.
Yes! I was majoring in Economics and International Relations (because of my parents, of course), and I was doodling through all of my classes. My drawings became better and better through time, and once my groupmate came to my desk to see what I was drawing that time. She was always so excited to see what I draw. So she sees the result, and says: "Wow, that's amazing! I follow so many artists, but you are my favorite one." That was 7 years ago. Guess what: I'm an artist now and her words inspired me so much then, that they've been living in my head for all these years
"I know I'm not good enough but I'm still doing it"
I LOVE THIS
To me, that is honestly so amazing that you had the opportunity to be told that in school. When I was in elementary school I failed art class (looking back I can't help but think that it was such a dumb thing because now I know that art is subjective) and the scolding I got from my parents shook me so much that I stopped trying to do art altogether. Over time however I've come to realise that I have creative impulses that I can't keep locked away forever, and I know for sure that art is something I want to do. It may be a little late for me now because I lost many years of learning to my fear of failure but I'm slowly starting to catch up. :')
@@mayonaissse I was blessed to have a teacher like that, must've been hard on you, its okay you can do it. Its easy it just needs some practice and just as you said creativity. You can definitely do it.
@@julial4569 that's really good to hear :)
"I want fine arts."
"You won't make money on that."
Well I just wanted to be happy. And it's sad that, that dream is not being supported.
Afraid that if you disobey parents you might ended up regretting the decisions you made. (I don't know how should I put this though hehe)
Asian parents be like(not all of them, I think).
“there’s a lot of stupid out there”
“oh look it’s me” 💀
Shit, Becker. This was priceless. Even older people should listen to this, for the sake of their own creative endeavors.
I couldn't agree more, this is his best video to date. A brilliant message.
@@SketchWithBex A friend of the House of Connolly, I see.
Aye! What a storyteller, his stand up shows never fail to make me laugh like a donkey 😅. Love the guy!
@@SketchWithBex ... and what a brilliant portrait you made.
The guy is brilliant. He breaks me when he starts laughing at his own stories.
@@kovokkovariki That's very kind of you, thanks so much! I had so much fun with that one, had to do something vibrant and quirky for the Big Yin.
I know right?! His laugh is so infectious, he's a ray of sunshine. I'd give my right arm to have a pint and a blether with him 🤣
I'm an Asian, undergo such "tiger parents" treating. I used to be so rebellious in my teenage year, I drew and drew despite being called worthless, never able to make it,... I was rebellious so I thought those words would never gonna change me. Oh man I'm so wrong, now, I'm grown up, they couldn't get to me anymore but now I'm always in this desperation hole, cannot draw because I'm so scared of "invisible words".
I'm trying to change bit by bit now, and it's hard TOT.
that "invisible words" is too real. it haunts me till now even as an adult.
@@yamapishy9792 it quietly creep into my mind ... I always assume I did the worst or I messed up something but actually I'm not.
yeah. it sucks when that happens. but think of all the people here telling each other: we are ok and we are here for each other :)
Dude I feel so bad for my asain friend It always feels like im looking at them slowly being lowered into lava every day the end of the marking period gets closer
I am similar, I was fighting for my dream since I was a kid, my mom was very supportive but then my parent's divorce, I stayed with dad, he wasn't totally against me drawing, but he was only considering it as a hobby, he very often tells me, that to earn money sometimes you have to sacrifice your hobbies :( I thought I was doing fine, but somehow till now I couldn't get enough good, I can't make decisions, I am changing my plans sooo often. I got into this imposter syndrome. As a graphic designer my boss was praising me soo much I was feeling so weird. I am fighting with this now. I am learning to allow myself to make mistakes, and I am slowly seeing improvements and change in my brain :D I believe you can do it too. Slowly allow yourself to be imperfect, no one is. And remember you can't make everyone happy with your art. There always will be people saying bad things about you and your art but this fine. I also recommend checking some videos on youtube about fighting with perfectionism, they help a lot. For example, I really like the'' struthless'' channel. Also one more thing, our parent very often push their own fears to us. So in some way, they want good for us. They are trying to keep us in their comfort zone, in a hole of their own awareness, but world is far more behind this zone. It is just this is something not familiar for them and that is why they are afraid.
My dad in particular often would scold and berate me for my grades, saying how I wasn't good enough while comparing me to other kids my age. I think that constant need for perfection more or less carried over into my hobbies as well, to the point where if I couldn't guarantee 100% perfection in whatever I did, then there was no point in even trying. Whenever I tried drawing there would always be that nagging thought in the back of my brain putting me down because I was improving at a snail's pace, and that I would never get better at the rate I was going.
It's a constant battle, but hopefully I'll win it in the long run.
My mom used to tell me I'd never succeed in art, that I'm too lazy for that, and now I'm at a point in my life where I really need that confidence she took from me as a kid, if I want to move on. That resonates deep down Ethan, thanks
what the hell is the matter with me... I’ve grown up with my parents supporting me and even now other people too, but I find myself getting so sad and not believing in myself. I wish I could figure out what’s wrong with me and what the problem is.
Sometimes Steve, humans just want more and it's natural, we are never satisfied with what we have ourselves. It's okay Steve :) i know u can do it Steve
ay I kinda feel the same. my parents are supportive and yet my head is still filled with doubts about how good I am
I learned it's not just parents that can affect you, I was bullied at a young age and it honestly I didn't stop getting picked on until as late as 7th even 8th grade now I'm trying to regain my confidence
I think it’s called imposter syndrome. You get complimented n stuff but after a while you start to wonder if it’s actually genuine. I’m not an expert but I think a lot of people go through it, I went through it anyway.
It’s all that support you got. Blame your parent
God, your videos don’t even just apply to art. This applies to life. And man I’m so grateful you’re here to tell us this. This is something I need to hear and it’s incredible.
Definitely felt the same way
@@citrusgoldfish I definitely didnt
I agree!
I needed to hear this, I HEAVILY struggle with perfectionism and even a sketch, which is meant to be messy will end up looking more like the final and it's tough to get past in order to learn and also the idea of creating a persona of who you want to be to help with anxiety and knowing that, yes, I do belong here, it's everything I needed to hear, thank you ☺️
One of the best pieces of advice I ever got was "treat yourself like you would treat your friends". You wouldn't put your friends down or discourage them in their creative pursuits, so why do you do it to yourself? Loved the video Ethan. Looking forward to more!
the art tip is at 08:55 - The problem: some people feel like they aren't good enough. My Solution: positive arrogance. Move forward with the pretense that you belong. thoughts?
Animators React to Bad & Great Cartoons 3 I wish Ethan react on this video ruclips.net/video/kvfuVXmZZQ4/видео.html
My ego is way to high for my own good. Thank you for feeding it.
Yeah, pretty much. Just don't give a fuck lmao
thanks so much for this vid bestie, it really helped! 🤑👍
So you're saying that i can be as cool as you some day? YEEEESSSSS!!!!!
I swear, every time I open a video from this man, he comes into my house and slaps all my years of insecurities and self-loathing and low self-steem into fucking oblivion. I discovered his channel thanks to a friend a few days ago and I still have not recovered from that "be excited about failing" and now he comes with all of this. good god THANK YOU really thank you
Really needed this reminder. When the accumulation of doubts and insecurities build up, it's hard to pinpoint when it got so bad when it all usually happens over time at a steady pace. Constantly reminding yourself can be sometimes exhausting, but developing a positive framework within yourself to fight the turmoil can be the most helpful thing you can do.
Dude I needed to hear this. You are a great art RUclipsr. I've gone through stuff with what you have talked about. I just feel like sometimes I get praise for stuff I don't think I deserve it and this video has helped me that maybe I do deserve the recognition at least. Thank you for posting this, keep being awesome.
As an asian i grew up with my parents telling me im never good enough, now that im older i took that with me, yes i do work harder to achieve what i want, but the insecurity never left. Now that my sister is pursuing art, i always praise her, even on the smallest improvement, i would tell her how far she’s come. My parents have definitely tried to change their mindset too, and im not blaming them, because they were probably raised that way. So when i have my own kids, i will do what you say and encourage them, so they can be passionate about the things that they like. Money and success will follow if people are passionate about what they’re doing.
I'm 22 Asian and still wanting to study art, i quit Computer Science -- parent's choice, and even i have no time to selfstudy painting I'll go study writing instead and won't stop perseuing my aspirations.
I was so focused on his great words that it took me 6 minutes to realize that his mic was on a mEAT CLEAVER.
took me 11 minutes lmao
yo same?? How did I miss a WHOLE ass cleaver being waved around??
That one thing that never disappointed me and made me focus on art more: Barbie as rapunzel
Fake it till you make it baby. Aw yeah!
I’m a young artist (15) and I’m trying to teach myself how to do basic animation at the moment. I’m not the best, and I’m fully willing to admit that I feel disheartened whenever I see an artist with a drawing that is so much better than mine. It took a really long time to tell myself that I started drawing just a few years back and I’m making good progress, and I’m learning every time I draw. My family doesn’t really think that I’ll be able to even support myself as an artist, but I have confidence that I’ll learn enough to do well. I just have to keep going I guess.
You will get there if you put in the time and effort. Find mentors, make connections, keep toxic people out of your life. Nothing in life that is worth doing, is easy
I get this so much! I use to/still do get dishearted at times due to how many good younger artists and older artist who can draw and animate a lot better than I can, but I believe I'll get better ovetime. I give kudos to you and believe you'll be a great animator! C:
You will fail. I've seen many kids.like you with the same dreams but their outcomes were all the same
@@livetochange974 you talking about yourself buddy I mean I've seen your pfp it isnt even your art and your Instagram doesn't even have you're art do you just be toxic so people would go to your Instagram atleast this guy makes his own art
@@livetochange974 bruh stfu I've seen so many 14 year olds on insta with many followers and high quality art
ooooh
now that make sense
hi ceno0 wanna play tf2 sometime?
@@maxstinson4588 wt heck is tf2?
@@mightycahjo4906 its a team based shooter called Team Fortress 2 @ceno0 is a very popular tf2 youtuber
@@maxstinson4588 i wish i had a laptop
The greatest artist
This video definitely addressed some of my concerns about my path in art, I am currently a beginner and I have to say it’s so hard to not get beaten down by low self esteem when looking at other people’s art, I get inspired by all of them but at the same time worry about my own art style and fear of copying other people’s art, of course I think I realized that references are a must to improve on my own style and skills, I just have that fear behind the curtains that I am not good enough, thank you for these videos, they really connected to me :)
my mother spent most of my life discouraging me from the things I want to pursue, at one point admitting that she prayed daily that I would lose interest in these things.
And now she tries to be more supportive cause she realizes what it did to me but the damage is done and now I have to put the pieces back together.
It’s tough believing in yourself when the entire world tells you not to, but acceptance one step at a time is the best way to start.
I didn't recognise this as a thing... but as an Asian (non american) I completely relate. I havent ever been encouraged to do anything creative but mainly been brought up being told I wasn't good at anything. And I almost run the risk of bringing my own kids up this way if I have kids at some point. Thankyou for the mental clarity.
this speech reminded me a lot of this Dave Chapelle's thing about "you are not poor, you are just broke". Love this
yup...broke...terminally!
Ughhh, the "I know that already" or even worse, "I know better". I saw that more than I'd like in my industry time. Man, this is such a great message. As always, I love your channel/work and messages. Much love
Are american's really all about race? Holy god, lately I've been seeing so much stuff about race from USA. It's always White this, black that, asian here. I'm not white enough, I'm not black enough etc.
Praying for y'all to stop focusing so much on race one day, u can do it USA. :/
It's mass media doing it and I guess Ethan works in that feild so lol, he probably hears this stuff constantly
I never encounter talk of race in my daily life despite interacting with people of different races. Except when I took english class because academia is all about obsessing over race
Because in order to fix the issues relating to race, we have to talk about it. Nothing will get better if we don't acknowledge the problems in the first place. I'd rather be honest about race than ignore it in favor of "peace" that only benefits a select few.
@@Backflipgal12 Problem is I mostly don't hear americans talk about race issues in day to day conversations, as in, all I hear them say are things like "I am so white I did x" "I am not black enough" or similar stuff, that is not talking about race, that is just a strange fixation with skin color and the ability to do x, y, z.
@@LaSangriaSolitaria In college I met a few really hurt people that I didn't know how to help that kept limiting themselves because of skin color. One girl thought she didn't pass portfolio review because they were racist against her for being black. It was actually because she had a terrible grasp of perspective and composition, which has everything to do with skill, and skill has nothing to do with race.
@@LaSangriaSolitaria you are correct. america's attempting to lead the world and police everyone else in regards to sex/gender/race/etc. but the most critical and hypocritically vindictive amongst them, ie. the whole crowd on twitter, don't actually have the knowledge and intelligence (and especially being unaware of the word context) to discuss these topics and actually reason, talk, interpret, and exchange with others - it is just a shitflinging contest that has been deconstructed into a straight "bad word!" dystopia where the goal is to instead just block and censor and refuse the existence or acknowledge something and learn/grow from it.
Like how artists and related creators struggle to create movies that depict history, or discussing history in general which inevitably has "bad" parts to it - these people focus on "oh my god this movie was about x-regime and everyone was suffering and it's really bad! cancel it" and can't make the connection that it is a lesson, a piece of media created with a critical lens in order to promote discourse and reflection on the topics it covers.
ultrawoke internet sphere doesn't actually go anywhere or do anything, just regurgitate a narrative and censor anyone that doesn't follow it, and will hypocritically be as x-ist or x-ism as they preach against... just in other ways. And all that does is create more division and an even greater barrier between people and turn people who would otherwise be 'with you' against you.
Not Asian... I'm the whitest person ever and I was never encouraged... My parents always said 'oh you're so good but art doesn't make money' or 'you know that's only an hobby,right?' or shit like that..
I ended up giving up ... Art was hurting me nowadays I only do a few things for the birthday of my friends because they like what I do...
It's sad how much power parents have on us.
we have to learn to live for our owns, parents push their fears on us, and it is very hard to break free from this :( but we can do it. Just read, listen, work on yourself, you can do everything you want.
Parents have biased opinions
I have sort of the opposite problem. Where I know I want to pursue, but the horror stories of people make me thinking I'll just get a more stable career that I have no interest in because it pays well.
My parents push me to go after what I love to do, but there's just so many uncertainties I don't even know where to go.
@@keeysOST this is your brain dooing, is easier to go for things we know better, and is also fine to have an confortable life. You have to ask yourself what you want. You can choose Comfort or to go for your Dreams, there always will be a risk but you can't achive anything without it. Is natural that you are scared but remember even if you will do some mistakes it deosn't mean you can't change your decision later. This is not like a dead end.
My mom told me the exact same about my passion for drawing, so in the end I went to study something I don't like that much and I don't know where to go in my life anymore...
Ethan... being the god of art is sometimes stressful.
*I WILL NEVER HATE YOU*
NEVAR EVAR
Don't you ever! DONT YOU EVAR
yknow i've been seeing your vids pop up and this is my third one i've watched. i was debating on whether or not to stick around, but this video really spoke to me a lot. i have no confidence in my art. the imposter syndrome is real in many aspects of my life. i always feel inferior or whatever i do or create aren't worth anything. you brought up a lot of good and helpful points that i will like to use to love and appreciate myself more especially in the things i enjoy to do. thanks ethan, i think i'll stick around for awhile
Damn this video hit differently. I'm glad you got personal. I was that mixed asian youth who loved art but I was told it was a waste of time. And although I thought I was good at it for my age, my father tore it up and told me to get real. Military parent and tiger parent. I just hated everything. But because of that, I'm appreciative of any advice I can get. My parents spent so much time telling me everything I did was never good enough or not worth it but never taught me how to do it.
I love the way you teach art. You compliment and critique. You teach art as art. Not that any one thing is superior to another which MANY---if not all artist I've ever met have told me.
I love your points on making that character or mask. That's why I love art. I get to project everything I want to be through my art. And my dissatisfaction with my inability to translate that properly with my novice understanding in art design-- pushes me forward.
And yes there is a lot of stupid people out there LOL
As an Korean American artist with the exact definition of a Tiger Mom, this really touched me. I cannot tell you how many times I have been told by my OWN MOTHER that my art sucks, that any and every creative endeavor that I encounter and thrive in (surprise surprise, i love the arts) was always and continuously shot down, no matter how many awards I've won in those endeavors, no matter how much approval I received from outsiders. None of it was ever good enough and I was repeatedly reminded that I would never be good enough.
It severely stunted my growth as an artist. I was making really good strides, until imposter syndrome set in because of all the remarks. When I had bad creative days I used to be able to drop all creativity and work/practice on the technical side of my art so I could feel inspired next time. Now I can't even do that. Now when I have bad creative days, I go days, months, and during one stretch one and a half years, without doing anything artistic.
I will never forgive her for stunting my growth, but watching this video sort of filled in the spots that she was supposed to fill in. So, thanks, Ethan.
Honestly Ethan, if it wasn’t for you and your community, I wouldn’t have had the courage to break out of my own imposter syndrome and really focus on preparing for my own career. Thank you for being such an amazing resource for artists everywhere, and a motivator to keep changing and improving as people. Your story has helped me and will continue to help me. 💕
Damm you're all so weak down here in the comment section. So you would of stayed as a lowly trash for the rest of your life if you didn't stumble upon Ethan videos? With such weak goals you wont make it big in life so better quit before following a path to damnation
@@livetochange974 damn you need to chill and see things in a different way dude
@@pixelandadam1117 just ignore him. That guy's just spamming negative crap on the comment section.
@@yumeteyus will do friend
@@livetochange974 I'm an atheist through and through but man, you need jesus in your life.
08:59 "You need to wear a mask"
*Anti-maskers have joined the chat*
This video really lightened up my mood a bit, working on arts for years now and improving slowly, it made me feel so bad for myself that it made me stop persuing it and even considered ending my path of creativity(for almost half a year I stopped) I used to (and kinda still do) compare myself alot to many great artists, but the last rule "realise where you are now" , I've been improving on that rule specifically for about a few days now since I have been trying my best to boost up my motivation and create art with passion again(which really is helping me) and I can see slightly more improvements that being blind before couldn't see, so for artists out there that are loosing hope, it's never too late, keep moving forward, you'll get there
As a asian who stopped pursuing art at a young age because it is "not a good line of work" and that "I will never make it" was something my parents taught me while I was a kid and that I need get a job with a great pay to be happy.
What’d you end up doing instead?
I think it’s funny how people don’t know it’s an act 😂
Fr, they always jump to conclusions
Literally every one of his fans knows kid that's why they subscribed and are head over heels for him. Lying to get some likes how unoriginal
@@livetochange974 Work on your shading, it sucks.
@@livetochange974 You're doing the same thing ya hypocrite
@@livetochange974
Colors too, so disgusting, unacceptable, I SAY UNACCEPTABLE!!
Comin' in here, insulting my rabbits, my eyes. COMING INTO MY HOUSE, m y
This helped a lot, thank you. I really needed this advice, since I wanna be in the animation industry one day. I'm currently only 16, so I'm glad to be hearing this now. I have a bad habit of being too "humble" because that was how I was raised, and it sucks because it made me hate being successful, while fearing failure at the same time. This has helped my mindset though, thanks again.
You really helped figure my thoughts out. It's always the dissatisfaction everyone faces, and it's hard to deal with it when it has been shoved in your face for so long. The one thing I really love about artists is that they're usually just a pure motivation to each other, and even though sometimes they have to face ass, they happen to stay bright side and cheer each other up. Motivation is crucial for everyone and I feel bad for those who don't get it as much. Thanks for this video, a lot of us needed it! ^^
still need someone to hold my little baby hands though 😂
Yesss😂😂😂
I love the "One Punch Man" modo, he is a hero for fun, and he doesn't care what other people think because he is a hero because he thinks it is fun, and he did not become a hero to appease others. So yes I am an artist for fun, I draw because I love it, and I do not draw just for someone elses appeasement.
Geez.. thanks for talking about this. Especially the part about media helping people realise "you can be this someday". I'm Asian and living in Canada but gosh, media really does help people become more confident in themselves, if not subconsciously. Everything I do I feel like I'll be the first one trying to figure it out and I rep the people who look like me so I have to be great, even though that's not really true people dont really care. Maybe if I saw more people doing what I was doing in the media maybe that pressure won't be there. But then actually going into it I actually do see people who look like me and it's so relieving.
0:52 bro can send someone to heaven with this voice wtf
This just makes me feel so much better, my parents let me do my art but sometimes they just
Step all over it saying that “digital art” isn’t real art, or that it isn’t complicated at all.
And when I do traditional “oh I’ve seen better” ;-;
But fr,you really help someone regain their optimism and strength to move up
Most people don't even understand art, the industry or the technical aspects. They don't understand how you make money.
Those who are ignorant on the subject are not qualified to be judges of that subject.
Keep working hard, this is the best time to go for it. So many resources are available now.
Im 22 and still wanting to go to an Art School/College, Sometimes when my parents accidentally or straight insult me about my decision of becoming an artist, I just say "Yeah Yeah" to them. A strong understanding and faith about your own strength and aspirations will always negate and destroy the opinions you'll hear, read, or felt. Promise me you will just go on and on, Promise me.
@@urielfifth1859 Wish I had that strength and self-awareness when I was your age. ; - ;
@@missachua For my parents -- age of 22 is to late for someone will just going to college and study art -- the life decision should be finalized before taking a degree at college, yet i quit my degree on Computer Science, I'll be 23 this September, unemployed, and even Im having zero time to self study at painting I'll just gonna study about writing instead and create my fictional world even without the illustration.
That "creating a mask" thing just hit the mark for me. I have two very predominant DnD originated characters, one named Virrian and the other Aurelious. They are sad and happy respectively. I've come to realize when I project my sadness on Virrian, only to have Aurelious come to cheer him up, it makes me feel a lot better. Then when I get to play Aurelious, the required happy-go-lucky attitude he has just makes me so much better in mood. "Everyone loves me secretly, even that person who held a knife to my throat" is a lie he tells himself but instead of using it to become overly arrogant, he uses it so he could come to understand people. Its complicated and I'm just rambling now, but I really liked the video so thanks :D
My parents are so weird about my art, they always show off what i do with other people and although they don’t really believe that i will live comfortably working on this they support me in a certain part, they want me to go far with this but when we are alone and i show them my art they look so disappointed, they don’t even smile, i have never felt comfortable with how my art looks but now i have learned to appreciate what i do more and i’m grateful that my parents support me with my studies but sometimes they are the ones who they make me feel worse
I could never understand people who couldn't differ your true self from persona... all I can see is a very hard working artist, who tries his best to teach us in the most effective and entertaining way. Your channel is my comfort place, specially if I'm having an art block! It makes me realize that I don't need to take things so seriously, that I'm always gonna be a student and that it's totally ok if I'm stupid lol, I don't need to know _everything_. It's fascinating to see art as a journey, not a destination. And I see you as this really funny, yet emotionally intelligent being, who's able to talk about complex things in such a simple way that's way easier to truly understand. And videos like this one just strengthens my idea of you, that you care about others and always reflect about different POVs. You're more humble than people give credit for, and you clearly work towards that. Thanks for this channel, thanks for all the reflections you bring to us and for giving space for people like ocean vuong to talk about such important/heartbreaking experiences!
I don't know if you remember me, I commented one of your video talking about your "mean" acting was a bit frightening for me, we both knew it was *my* issue and I'm thankful you didn't take it personally. I still watched your videos because I know you're doing a very good job and I learned so much from you.
So today I'm here again to say thank you for making this video. I'm a mixed race, French/Japanese artist, I went through the same bs all my life of being a female Asian in a occidental country, it sucks. I'm finally getting all this bs over and got myself so much confidence in my artworks and in myself lately, your video was posted in the right timing. It's confirming everything. So yeah, it's easier said than done but heck yeah we should love ourselves !!!
Our art is the best, what you gonna do !!!!!!!!
Thanks mate :)
now this is character development
good luck with your art! I know you've got the skills, so keep on pushing.
"Positive Arrogance" why do two words that are seemingly completely different work SO much better together than human beings do
💯!!
oxymoron
This vídeo is a slap on my face....i grow up always earing i am smart,but at same time listening im weaker than my brothers,mentaly and fisicaly,what in some way came true...(im weak fisicaly,and have mental issues)now no mater what i do,or people say is good,i feel like im a failure,like im doing wrong,that is not good enough,i just cant believe myself or the thing the others say anymore,because in my head,im weak, wrong,cant do anything good without thinking "well...is not that good,anyone can do this,you are nothing,i dont even know why i try..." I stop drawing many times in my life because of this ;-;.
Salvadoran here.
My parents (mostly my mom) used to not like my goals and career path, which is not go to university/state college and go on to a more manga/comic path with self-teaching.
Long story short, I talked to them and they finally settled and support me.
Now I'm on a long path of self-publish manga/comic and well...we'll see.
Coming from Eastern Europe, I was laughed at by my own parents when I said I wanted to become an artist. Took me 15 years after that to pick up a pen and start drawing once more, but I still don't consider myself any close to good, which ends up frustrating me.
Don't give up! ✨
Buddy I left this love quite a while ago, now slowly regaining my touch on my brushes. We can do this!
@@keep_the_wheels_rollingsg8596 lol
Even though I was always surrounded by people that supported me, I have dealt with a terrible anxiety which really held me back. I have just started posting my art online about a year ago even though I have wanted to do so for about 10 years now, but never did because I have always felt that "I'm not good enough to show this to anyone, maybe I will when I'm as good as (x artist)". I still feel inadequate, but I'm slowly forcing myself to push past it and see my own worth. This video is exactly what I've needed for the past 10 years.
Also I would totally also do that thing where someone would give me advice, but I wanted them to think I knew what I was doing even though I wouldn't feel that way myself. So I would give them the "YEAH I KNOW, you just don't GET it. That's my STYLE it's on PURPOSE" which was really childish looking back, and in doing that I rejected the opportunity to learn more for fear of looking like I still needed to learn
Yeeeeeeesh
May or may not be what I'm doing to myself right now. I really just think I'm not good enough to post anything yet. Drawing has started frustrating me more often so
Not having a good time rn
AhhhH this video was great.
I'm really young when it comes down to it but that doesn't stop me from feeling like there is no time. I feel like sometimes that I'm not progressing enough and I'll fall behind and that caused me to hate my art. I just never saw it as good enough. But the line "talk confidently about what you DO know and be EXCITED about what you don't know." It helped me realize that I need to be proud of what I know and stop being terrified of what I don't know.
Thanks a bunch 🍁
I’ve recently picked up painting and have been soaring. People would say “are you really just a beginner? It looks like you’ve been painting for a long time!!”
I’m glad I’ve finally started, I had put it off for so long because I had been comparing myself over the years. Don’t compare yourselves to other artists unless it’s for research/reference purposes!
Many people get you wrong but I really like how you present yourself and your advice. As an aspiring 3D artist, it is nice to be able to feel like “hm maybe I can be good artist like him in the future, and this is not just impossible dream” by watching your contents .
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us🙇🏻♂️
And also I can completely agree with the idea of creating your persona to become someone else. I grew up in Japan and our culture is quite strict on people so I had been told that I was worthless , and I can’t do anything . Since I was shy and insecure lad, it really had negative impact on me. So creating my own persona where I can be someone who is confident and fearless really helped me out even though I knew it was just persona. As i kept using it, it has became part of me and I’m much less insecure now and I can be confident for what I do no matter what others have to say about me.
Bro, that Ocean Vuong clip is powerful, good shiet
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xD
@@legitthrower5929 what a unthoughtful meaningful take there kid
No it isnt powerful and isnt good shieet
@@livetochange974
You know what else isn't powerful? ur mom.
Thank you so much, Ethan! Self-doubt and imposter syndrom truly are the bane of enjoying the things you like to do when you're also doing them professionally. You put words on a lot of abstract feelings I'm dealing with, and having words for them makes it easier to deal with. I've been working as a concept artist for about 5 years now and I STILL struggle with this.
Anyway... Thank you so much for making this video, it means a lot. Truly.
The amount of excitement and motivation I get to improve after watching your videos is unfathomable. Thank you for making such great content
as an eastern asian who lives in america who is also an aspiring artist, thank you. this helps me so much not only with actual art but also with my mindset for myself. i appreciate you and your content and your humor never fails to crack me up. i'm so happy that you brought this topic up, again thank you
I want to be a physicist, not a pro artist (I draw in my free time though because fun!) but what he says hits so close to home- he's always saying exactly what I need to hear even if I didn't know I needed it.
Me too
What I love about you, Ethan, is that you are so real and so straight up with yourself. Therefore you can project that to us and we can see that you are really sincere. You believe every word you say and that is very charismatic. This is you being naked and as an artist, that is hella deep.
Thank you. Growing up as the minority in my country, town, school, neighborhood, and even my family. I've often felt alone or misplaced. Hearing this message being spoken with such sincerity and empathy. Nonetheless by a fellow artist. It really gave me a needed boost in confidence.
I'm not sure if you'll ever see, read, nor reply to this comment. But I once again wanna say Thank You. You have no idea how much I had to stop myself from typing a whole essay TwT
ethan! i just got into art school, literally on the day you uploaded this! this video really resonates with me, especially at this time, because the mask you're talking about is what helped get me to this point. as a black female artist, i have to live every day with the 'fake it til you make it' mindset. in such a competitive industry, you have to act like you're on a level playing field with your white male counterparts. but when you play the part, you actually begin to realise your worth and it is SO effective. you work better, put yourself out there, stand taller and speak louder. positive arrogance is invaluable!
I'm so early that Ethan only has 10 years in the animation and gaming industry.
But for real love your videos and your community.
10 years is alot of time to get good. Took me 2 years of drawing to reach his level of skill
@@livetochange974
Oh really? It took me 3 minutes.
Top that, bby
@@livetochange974 why are you so jealous of him you're spamming
@@livetochange974 i have seen your art on Instagram and it's nowhere near a professional level tbh it's just sketches and those aren't even clean or have anything special to them
@@abhisheknautiyal7075 I have thousands of sketches I haven't uploaded yet because I'm too lazy to care anymore. My anime drawings fromasy year are 10x times better from what I can create now. I lost all motivation for art and have 0 passion for it. My art downgraded since I'm fording myself to draw while I'm suffering. I had talent but I wasted it
I am really impressed with how honest and vulnerable you presented yourself. Thank you for the candor. I greatly appreciated you saying this, and showing us what happens behind the curtain. Keep up the great work!
Super important topic. I am a musician but I love to listen to artists of other genres because I love to learn from you guys. How other artists deal with problems such imposter syndrome etc. We are all united in stuff like that.
Thanks, Ethan. I'm transgender. When I was growing up, I was always met with the fight to be man enough, to prove that I'm me from the people around me and my family. The pain of that has stuck with me in all aspects of my life. Hearing this from an industry professional, I'll take it to heart. Thank you.
You've put it into words for me. Thank you my friends. Please stick around. 💕
wow, a hard road indeed. best wishes my friend!
Another trans person here. I feel you. Lets put this advice into practice.
U let u mind get guided to it ...u intentionely decided what u like to be.. naturr only have two gender,male and female
@@JustWatchBAIM The majority of transgender people are male or female.
"Don't let anyone force their perception of you onto yourself"
I LOVE THIS. Thanks for the great content Ethan. I always click on your vids the moment i see them come up!
this video is great! You got me thinking about how I am confidant in myself and what I like, I'm honest about my skill levels BUT the way we're raised is that we're not supposed to feel good about being good or "too good" at things. We're supposed to not be proud, saying you're good at something or describing how you understand something/compare you own skill set or level to someone else is often seen as boasting. It's no wonder kids and adults alike are afraid of standing up to do something unique, it's not just feeling inadequate, it's feeling like you'll look like a fool if you express how you feel "Yes, I'm quite good at xyz".
An example of myself is from when I said something along the lines of me posting art and saying "I've never drawn humans before but I think I did pretty good!" And there weren't any responses to it which is alright. Cut to someone sharing a drawing very close in time after myself and they were self deprecating about it at all and well, they got a lot of compliments, support, etc. Call me jealous but I think we shouldn't ignore those of us who are confident in our skills in things like art and will say so but instead only pity the one who is too low in confidence. I understand lifting someone's spirits but when it's literally anytime I see this happen? It gets old.
I'm enjoying this channel lately, that I've got suggested randomly but it's so good