Thanks for this. I agree that Immersed is the leader of the pack. I work in it four to five hours a day and do struggle with glitches like in this video. It's still worth it, and I have ordered the Visor headset which I expect will take the experience to a whole new level. There is also Fluid, which is well worth checking out in free Beta. The big advantage is that it doesn't need a computer. It too has glitches and crashes quite a bit. BUT, this is going to be a big part of VR from now on, and it will absolutely add significant value of VR for productivity and collaboration (one central aspect not mentioned here). Thanks again.
Interesting... I was not aware of the Visor headset, perhaps because I cancelled my ImmersedVr membership after getting frustrated with all the problems with it (described in this video). My personal feeling is that given what I perceive as the lack of quality of the immersedVR app, I will wait to see if the Visor headset delivers as promised. I already have xReal Air, which seems similar (though less feature packed) and the Meta Quest. I need to see the value of the Visor headset before I commit to it.
Totally understand. I put an early order in (full refundable until you submit ipd/face scan and get it specifically made for you) , and got it slightly cheaper, but I have on and off considered getting a full refund. It should be as clear as the Xreal air/air 2, but with an fov above the Quest 2. If it had displayport capability and was confirmed as working with steamvr, I wouldn't think twice as it would be perfect for sim racing/flying, as well as being used for work. I have no doubt it will work with steamvr at some point, but it will be over usb/WiFi, so will have compression and quite high lag to use the full resolution. It just seems a shame to spend my own money (and quite a bit) on something I may mostly use for work. The company I work for will love the potential extra productivity for free! 😁
I agree, I would personally like a slightly better resolution headset (using PICO 4),and slightly better Passthrough. Software wise I still come up against issues which is a pain when you need to get something done. Hopefully the perfect headset (reasonably priced) is only a year or so away, and the software fine tuned over the coming year to then have a hopefully faultless experience 👍
Great video! Let me share some of my personal experiences on this as well, in case it helps. I've been using Immersed VR for the last four months as my fulltime development environment (I'm a software engineer, touch typist). I have 3 virtual monitors (my two side ones I set to 1440x900 for web research and Teams/Outlook), and my main one is set 1920x1080. And, barring the occasional glitches you mention in your video, Immersed has actually been quite useful for me. I'm able to attend Teams meetings (using the virtual cam), audio is a bit delayed but I connect directly via bluetooth to the laptop to prevent these delays. I develop in Visual Studio and IntelliJ with no problems. Outlook, Word, etc work without problems. It truly feels like attaching extra monitors to your laptop while sitting in some exotic environment (like deep in Space, or a Cave, or a Space Station, or a Coffee House). The only thing I'm not liking is that I am limited to being within a few feet of my laptop because my bluetooth keyboard and mouse don't work well with the Oculus quest (special keys don't pass through, such as the Windows key and some function keys, some of which I need in my IDEs), so I must connect directly via bluetooth to the laptop. Regardless of these small drawbacks, it is a very useful environment for software developers ASSUMING you are a touch typist. I agree with your comments you made about Immersed, where it is a little glitchy here and there, but overall it is quite useable. As an aside, in Immersed, I've also made use of their "co-work" feature, where you can go to any of the environments and work alongside random other users. I've met some interesting people using this feature, including some Immersed developers. I tried Workrooms, but I agree with everything you said about it. I've been unable to be productive in it yet. Plus, the only useful environment is an "Office" environment. Who wants to be in an Office environment when you could be somewhere exotic like a beach or on top of a mountain or underwater?
I've also tried vSpatial, and even though I simply loved the basketball hoop tool, I didn't care much for the environment -- it requires learning a totally different way of doing work --, and constant need for the controllers. Yes it was a clean environment, but I found that the learning curve is a bit too much for somebody who has to juggle many windows and apps. Side note: independent of the software you use above, I would strongly recommend you get a better strap with battery and face shield for your Oculus quest to make your long work hours be less stressful on your face! I hope these help!
Thanks! Interesting to hear all of that - I have been using the Quest 2 with Immersed, and have found the same issues with the keyboard and mouse connected directly to the headset, and my PC is not located where I can work (by a racing sim rig) so this was vital. Immersed released for the PICO 4 in beta, and although it doesn't have Passthrough for the keyboard or tracked keyboard options, the image quality when using a 1920 x 1080 screen in immersed, is about the same as when I was supersampling/set to 3840 x 2160 with the quest 2. This means I can run it off a lower spec PC with the same visual quality. I have a 15m active usb cable, so might use that and put my keyboard and mouse into that so I can use them better than connected to the headset. I use the KIWI battery strap for the Quest 2 which is super comfy 👍 thanks for the tips. Check out my later video - it's a brief update following this one, thanks again
@@DayDreamerVR hello, i see your answer is 2 month old: you say, no passthrough with the pico4 ? hmm.. at this video here it shows passthrough, and with better readability of the key-signs on the keyboard compared to passthrough with the quest2 i have only tested with the pico4 once, without passthrough sofar, but liked it the lenses with better e2ec compared to the quest2 are very good for such szenarios
wondering form witch setup you came, when now using 1920x1080 on your main-screen in immersed an happy with that i think its an great upgrade for people with laptop, and 1080p resolution or even less.. when you now have it a) in bigger b) more far away (about 2-3m focus-distance in VR) compared to the 50-60cm on the laptop - so easier for eyes past 45 year-old people ;) c) 2 or 3 monitors instead of only one BUT: when you come from an descent monitor-setup - for example a 3440x1440p or 3840x2160p Single-Screen-setup, it feels for me like a downgrade.. and iam not only referring to the 2160x2160 Headset-Resolution compared to 3840x2160... its more: let me explane it feels for me a little bit like a step back.. i was using dual-Monitor (and at some time tripple-Monitor) Setup for 25 years for me, it was a step up, going from 2 monitors to one monitor with high resolution more freedom in scaling your windows, not so much headturning anymore, not working with your head turned to the side,... it looks always very impressive when you can have 5 windows in VR or even more in "vSpatial" but vSpatial showed it clearly for me: you do not want to work with a 180° workspace... thats not possible.. so you are "scroling" the windows right to left, left to right.... its like virtual desktops on windows: Windwos-key + arrow-keys for me its better to stack 2 virtual montiors above each other, so the head does not have to turn left to right but only slightly up and down if there is a third monitor, than only for unimprotant things, like teams where maybe once in an hour i have to look at i think - in some years - when headset resolutions go up significantly, we will see the same thing as in real world... people trading there 2 or 3 monitor-setups for a 1-monitor-setup with high resolution in the moment many monitors in VR is "cool", but also necessary, because of the still (too) low resolution of the headsets.. you have to use more monitors, spread them out wide, so you can benefit form more pixels.. the quest2 with immersed was for me on kind of border, where i could say: ok, for 2h.. but.. the resolution.. you have to be a vr-enthusiast to do that for real the pico4 with the better E2EC makes it for me much more a thing, that i say: yea.. i can imagine to use it much more often.. i use the Pico4 without facegasket.. so maximal close to the lenses, highest FOV and i can still see parts of the real world around me, what allows me to stay even longer in VR still iam looking forward to resolutions like 2560x2560 or 2880x2880 ... i think text, desktop, etc.. would benefit a lot from that i also hope for better colors.. head 9 HEadsets in the last 6 years.. and: non of them i would say: yes, i can use it to edit a video or yes, i can use it to edit fotos..
@@reinhardjud8945 Passthrough is now available with the pico 4, but it is not quite clear enough for comfortable reading of keyboard or note paper etc. I have got a spare AMVR facial interface and cut out the bottom section to help with reading etc. It is much more usable than the Quest 2,but I am also looking forward to higher resolutions and better Passthrough cameras 👍
@@DayDreamerVR in 5 years: resolution of the pimax crystal (2880x2880), Passthrough quality of the Varjo XR3 and Formfactor of Pico4 or smaler ;-) thats my wishlist.. then it would be for sure a great monitor-replacement for now, it is doable, but i guess for 95% of people which are not vr-enthusiasts, the downsides are in the moment too big, to consider working in VR for real
As of right now. Immersed is fantastic. They've really tightened up their UI, and with the tracking update on quest 2. It's a breeze to work in. Workrooms on the other hand. It won't even launch on my headset. I don't even consider Virtual Desktop as an option. It's necessary now a days for a VD environment to be fitted with hand tracking, and on the fly capabilities.
That is good to hear, as I wanted to try it on the Quest 3 next week. The vastly superior colour passthrough and pancake lenses should make a big difference too. I am really looking forward to seeing it run on their own 4k per eye micro-OLED headset most though.
I'm thinking about saving up for the Pico 4 by Christmas and this is a pretty cool feature. I guess for screen settings I can create a different profile/account for my OS just for VR settings. I wonder how tough it is to create my own environments for Immersed.
I hope, and expect that by next Christmas, you'll have more choice. The big caveat about Pico 4 for me is the cheap front camera for mix reality mode. It's a single camera, so everything is rendered in 2D when you walk and want to catch objects, and therefore it's hard to evaluate distances. and the image quality of that front camera is crap. That aside, I find it a great headset despite the low battery autonomy (which still is better than Quest 2). With Immersed I think it last max 1.5 hours for me. (I have to time it thou... I just know it's short). I plan to attach a power bank to it, to increase battery autonomy.
@@superkikim4916 That's true, a mixed reality mode could make it so I can set up those screens within my room. Or have other Avatars around be they AI or people maybe? I suspect the next generation of front cameras will be colour and 3D, or fake 3D even. Agreed, the battery setup it has is one thing I wish was better. I'm so glad 3rd party people are on top of this and can setup batteries to fit in. Though with usb-c as the charging port, any battery could work if you attach it comfortably with Velcro.
@@kairon156 Immersed has mixed reality. Works ok. Just not the best with the single cam ln the pico 4. Note it has color and is composing with both eyes. It's just weird if you look at your hands or your phone and it doesn't really allow to watch your phone for example. Colors are weird and the resolution is too bad. But this is still ok to use to see your environment while working on the virtual desktop. Regarding other avatars, Immersed has public rooms you can join. In that mode, you can see other people's avatars while working, and you can hear conversations (and participate) if people are note muted. As per the power pack I wouldn't scratch it to the helmet. I'd rather put it in a waistbag or a side pocket. I have a 20k mAh power bank that would be perfect for that
I've been experimenting with Meta Remote Desktop. I like that I can have local browser windows open at the same time, but I really like that |Virtual |Desktop controls the mouse cursor and forwards audio. Unfortunately Remote Desktop is a lot less stable on my Windows machine than on MacOS. It drops connections randomly and eats memory, requiring reboots every couple of days. I still have to try Immersed, but I've had trouble getting it to connect in the past. I want to be able to use two PCs at the same time, so I can use Mac and Windows and maybe even Linux desktops concurrently.
This is amazing. I'm planning to buy a Quest 3 and working in VR will definitely help me focus. I have a very specific question. Can you use any of these with passthrough?
Awesome-hope you like your Quest 3 when you get it. Immersed you can use passthrough to see your keyboard, or passthrough portals to see other things (you can place the portals where you want them), or you can use passthrough everything but still see your virtual monitors. You can do passthrough keyboard area in Meta Horizon Workrooms (which I think is better than immersed's keyboard passthrough as its a really neat rectangle on the desk), I haven't tried Workrooms for a while though and can't remember a passthrough ability for the whole environment whilst seeing your monitors. I'm pretty sure virtual desktop has a passthrough environment, but I've not looked to use passthrough in virtual desktop for a while, would be the best option for flat screen gaming out of the 3 apps though 👍
Just checked virtual desktop, and if you go to environments, there is a passthrough option 👍 immersed is free for 3 monitors, but yeah it's not quite the same as 9,not sure you will find that amount in any app soon 🤔
Great Video. Thank you. I'd be curious how you feel about the improvement they brought within the last 4 months ? I just got me a Pico 4, and I tried Immersed. I'm on Manjaro, and it might be buggier than with Windows. But I like it so far. I just hope I had better control over the monitor resolution and also a way to save and reset monitor position. However, I've seen a lot of bug when I disconnect and reconnect...
Thanks, glad you liked it, I find immersed is really useful, it should save monitor setup, and I don't really experience any bugs now with windows. It might be worth going on the immersed Discord channel, they have been really helpful and might have some answers for your issues/bugs 👍
I personal use Desktop VR and Vorpx, Vorpx Desktop I think has the best clarity for text without needing any big adjustments for singe Monitor use. There are fake monitor Adapters that can physically simulates a connected Monitor maybe give this a try to get more Monitors in VR ( I have not tried it by myself).
@@DayDreamerVR I have googled this "FUERAN dummy plug,Headless Ghost, Display Emulator HDMI-compatible HDMI-compatible" with this bellow comment "Works great with Virtual Desktop on Oculus Rift & HTC Vive" Looks like you can get them for all kind of outputs to emulate a "real" Monitor. Good luck and please let me know if it worked.
I worked in VR today, last time I tried it, maybe 2 years ago it wasn't great but it's a lot better now. I'm a bit confused by the option of tracked keyboards or remote keyboards on the meta help article they have though. That wasn't a thing last time I tried, so really keen to get a supported keyboard.
It has come a long way, not perfect but it's getting usable. It could be worth watching my other video about tracked keyboards ruclips.net/video/Nz_qvGBOWZE/видео.html hopefully it will save you some hassle/time 👍
Immersed you can use over a USB cable so that's your best option, although you could create a WiFi hot-spot from your laptop, or phone and it shouldn't use any network data, just between the headset and laptop/phone 👍
Hey @Day Dreamer VR Is there a way to use the new Quest 2 touch keyboard mode with the virtual keyboard for a standing work and screen floating experience?
Hi, off the top of my head, you can use a virtual keyboard in immersed, and should be able to do it standing up with your floating screens. I can't remember, but I'd be surprised if you can't do that in Horizon Workrooms too. You might just have to recent re your view when you stand up and down so the monitors and virtual keyboard are where you want them. Hope that helps and I hope I understood your query right 👍
Glad you liked the video 👍 I can't remember exactly where I go the background now, I think it was from one of the stock image sites like istock photo or something. I've had a look but can't find it unfortunately online.
Immersed its blurry on sides tho. I have one. Is Virtual desktop or Workrooms much SHARPER/CLEARER when it comes to graphics and text(monitors)? One thing I like about immersed is you can see your actual keyboard but still not clear enough.
I think it mostly depends on which headset you use, and what resolutions your monitors are set to in immersed. The Quest 2 and QPro is a bit blurry and is difficult to make as comfortable as I would want, Quest 3 is much better. PICO 4 and PICO 4 Ultra have bad aliasing, so Quest 3 is my prefered option. The Quest 3 is still limited by it's resolution though - the bigger your screens are the easier it will be, and the higher resolution you set them to the better for image clarity even if it is supersampling about what the display can provide. I find Immersed clearer than Meta Horizon Workrooms, but Workrooms always works reliably for me, whereas immersed can be very buggy. Hope that helps
@@markbrown1247 Thank you for taking time on this and I appreciate it. I setup my monitors to 1920. But its still blurry on edges. Its true it varies on headset vr. I have both Q2 and QPro. I'm getting that Immersed Visor pretty soon and see if its really true of its 4K claim.
So much of the Immersed app has improved. I hope that @Day Dreamer VR has done an "update" video to show the amazing changes that the team at Immersed has made. I LOVE working in VR on their app. I mean, not even JUST working, but I even hop on to Immersed on the weekends for consumption. There's just something about having your phone in VR as a huge screen next to your main monitor, then having a monitor on top of that to play videos, while you setup a monitor to the right of your main monitor for chats like Discord or Messenger, etc. It's a really great experience at the moment and a lot of issues have been resolved. I personally can't wait until they get DRS supported in app for the Quest 2 v55 update. DRS is going to make the on screen text EVEN CLEARER than it is now. Wish there was an update video for this, otherwise, great vid. You get a thumbs up from me.
I have done two updated videos since this one, Immersed really has come a long way and is really good to use. I still unfortunately do have a couple of faults which they haven't fixed and I reported earlier in the year, such as in some cases (on my laptop) sound isn't passed through to the headset, unless you unmute your computer, but then it's loud and slightly out of sync between the headset and computer. Hopefully it will just continue to get better. Thank you for your comment 👍
@@DayDreamerVR I can help with the sound issue. Same thing happened on my laptop and I was able to mute the laptop sound, but the headset would play the audio instead of the laptop speakers. I'm gonna also go check out the other update videos too.
@@TriMuXx No matter what I do I can't get the sound to come out of the headset only, and this happens with both the PICO 4 and Quest Pro. I have reported it a handful of times over about 6 months, and they say they are aware of this issue, but still no fix. I have to use headphones as a workaround. Hope you like the update video's, there are 2 about immersed 👍
@@DayDreamerVR I will let you know what steps I take on my Quest 2 Immersed setup at home with my laptop once I am out from work. It works perfectly for me. I'll reply back with the steps here in the comments.
Can USB c be used for horizon. I find it more stable than immersed. Most times I just want to sit and work but the constant setup with immersed can be very frustrating. I have poor internet. Is it possible to use USB. c with horizon? Thanks for the video
I don't think usb connection can be used with Horizon Workrooms unfortunately. I just did another video about working in Horizon Workrooms, and I have been surprised at how stable it is compared to immersed. The setup with Immersed can be off putting. I'll take a look to see if usb can be used with Horizon and will update 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thanks. Despite immersed being superior. Stability is very important for a person doing serious work. I wish horizon has USB connection.
I have a question, can i use my quest 2 to play pcvr games in immersed? I know that you can use virtual desktop to play pcvr games. Infact i cant use the oculas software.. because it doesnt support my gpu anymore..
Unfortunately you can't use immersed for pcvr. You can use it for flat screen gaming, but other apps do that better with lower latency. You could take a look at steam link in case that works, I did a guide here: ruclips.net/video/pbaRjaHtCZM/видео.html Virtual desktop or Alvr are other options, hope that helps 👍
Vspatial seems to be better than all but the main thing is it would be so nice if we could drag and drop and move the virtual monitors if our mouse and not the controller.
Could u make a video how to optimize the nvidia or windows to work along better with quest 2? I mean should I high something so that the vision get better its kinda blurry
I unfortunately haven't come across this as I only have one monitor, and that seems to detect it even if it is on standby. Are your monitors completely off or in standby? I'm trying to think of options but they all have compromises - a dummy plug would allow you to have no monitors on, but then if you want to use a monitor you have to reconnect it etc. Might be worth going on the immersed discord in case they have some advice/options. If I think of anything I reply again, hope you find a solution 👍
@@whoamit4642 The only thing I did was to add a 4k resolution dummy plug, that allows you to have a 4k resolution monitor in VR, that makes it slightly clearer, but I will consider a video and how to optimise it 👍
@@Gala23Milk I currently use the Meta Quest 3 for this. I find the pico 4 and PICO 4 Ultra have very bad aliasing which makes it look like straight lines are shimmering which is really off putting and looks worse. The Quest 3 is probably the best reasonably priced headset for this.
@@DayDreamerVR thank you for answering. You are the only person who explained the whole VR thing properly. Please keep doing what you are doing, you are helping so much!
Sfortunatamente, nei miei test finora, non funziona per i giochi. Quindi per una configurazione a 3 monitor, o meglio per un'immersione, avrai comunque bisogno di tre monitor, o per riprodurlo in Realtà Virtuale.
Totally agree, it isn't really possible in immersed or workrooms. Immersed does show low latency, but it just cannot cope with a game stream for some reason. Steam VR could be another good option to then view your desktop/game 👍
hello ! what I need is to work remotelly, is it possible ? I want to connect my bluetooth keyboard and mouse in my quest3 let my pc at home and work in a different network, is it possible ? thank you
@@paulosantana6190 I believe it is possible, but I haven't done it myself. Latency could be an issue and will depend on network between you and your PC. I would recommend asking a bit further on the immersed discord channel which can be found here:discord.gg/n7RUgqvt Good luck with finding the info you are after 👍🤞
Yes you can, but there may be limits on how many monitors, and how high the resolution of them can be in VR, which all depend on what your laptop can cope with 👍
It doesn't which is the amazing thing about it! It just passes the monitor feed across. It does need slightly more power than running a straight forward physical monitor, but it your PC can run multiple monitors, then it will likely work with Immersed 👍
What does your latency show as in the settings menu? I take it your pc is connected via ethernet? Could be worth going on the immersed discord as that lag is not normal. Hope you get it sorted 👍
@@Shootfix_AS which headset are you using? I find that the Quest 3 is pretty good, but I would still want it slightly clearer. I find pico 4 and PICO 4 Ultra have bad aliasing in immersed due to the pixel arrangement and with so many straight lines etc with text/windows
@@DayDreamerVR Meta Quest 2, i see these tiny pixels, and it’s quite difficult to read the text. It resembles a projector image on a wall-when you get close to the wall, you can see tiny squares. Thank you so much for quick response
@@Shootfix_AS Unfortunately that is a limit of the headset resolution of the Quest 2. Pixels are more noticeable for trying to read text etc in productivity apps like immersed. What I would recommend is expanding the screen size in immersed to make seeing the pixels less of an issue. Just in case you think of changing headset, the PICO 4,and PICO 4 Ultra are not good for immersed due to the way the pixels are arranged on the headsets screens means that there is alot of aliasing (shimmering pixels) when dealing with straight lines and text in perfectly horizontal or vertical lines like with productivity apps. So the Quest 3 is currently the best to recommend, and Quest 3s should be good when out. I hope that helps
@@DayDreamerVR Of course, it helped! Thank you so much for your help! You’ve saved me hundreds of euros! I’m also considering buying Xreal Pro/Ultra or Viture glasses, but I’m not sure if it’s a good choice for working as a web designer, photographer, and filmmaker. Pixels are not acceptable when doing this kind of work. Have you perhaps tried these glasses? Do you think they are suitable for working on projects?
@@Shootfix_ASI have tried xreal airs and xreal air 2's. I would not recommend those for anything else other than watching Netflix etc or gaming - the field of view is quite small, and is like using a 24-26" monitor I would say at a couple of feet away, and the windows software (which allows you to have multiple monitors in the glasses) for stabilisation is poor or just doesn't work depending on settings and your pc hardware (mac works better apparently). They have just released the Xreal beam Pro, which is worth finding out some info about which should stabilise the image really well when paired with the Xreal glasses, I did try the standard xreal beam but it was underpowered and overheats. I haven't tried the Viture, but the software is meant to be excellent for using with pc/mac for multiple monitors and excellent stabilisation.
Definitely, that's my conclusion in and from the video, I've been trying to use it on and off but keep coming across a number of issues, it's a great app, the best I have found, hopefully I'll be able to get past the issues, hope you liked the video 👍
too bad immersed vr has such a bad pricing model, if you could just buy it instead of having a subscription then it would certanly be the number one, but till that desktop+, vd mobile, vd desktop, whirlgig or the overlays are good enough
You can use it for free with 3 screens. If you then use it for a small amount of time on consecutive days then you get the 5 screens for free. They have had options previously to buy the pro (5 screen) level, and even had it at one point if you bought their Visor headset. Most options are now subscription though unless you are happy with the free access
@@DayDreamerVR my issue is rather the low resolution of the screens, usually I set my screens to 8k or even 16k when using them in VR. The free version offers you 1080p, which is a bad joke for VR screens. Not sure if you unlock resolutions by usuage too, and not even the pro supports 8k/16k so it already is outperformed image quality wise. 4k would be the minimum which is limited to the pro version
@@DasJev all I would say is that it is worth working out how many pixels are in your view on a screen in VR. I did calculate it a while ago (sad I know) and I can't remember if that was comparing to the Q2 or PICO 4, but a 32 inch monitor in VR was slightly lower than 1920x1080 due to the resolution of the vr headset. Even a 4k vr headset is 4k for the whole of your view in one eye, so a monitor taking up part of that space will be less than 4k. Using higher resolutions will help slightly with aliasing/clarity, however the limits are currently the resolution of the vr headset, and not the resolutions in immersed. I think higher resolutions are included in their pro though, which you get access to free with consecutive days usage (over 15 mins per day). Their model does keep changing and isn't very clear which doesn't help
@@DayDreamerVR instead of calculating I would highly recommend to just try it. Text/Lines/UI/Images are a lot clearer and havr less/no shimmering left with high res settings. You can't just calculate based on headset res as you work with two overlaying rasters that are not congruent plus one is distorded which alone already requires additional source resolution for distortion correction. 1080p is maybe good enough for 720p VR Devices, but not for something like a pico, there 8k still does wonders and should be the default imo
@@DasJev I found 4k useful with the Q2, but not with the PICO 4. I wouldn't run multiple monitors at 8k. I have found that running 8k or more brought barely any improvement with a 4k per eye headset, and definitely not worth it considering the extra performance required to run it. I find 4k vr headset clear enough, and still won't be looking to use 8k for multiple monitors with it. This is unlikely to be a solution for you (pro has max of 4k per eye) . Hope you manage to find something else 👍
Is there a way to use a phone as a display then using a mini pc with a power bank like the MeLe quitter 3C to then connect a quest 3 without any monitor to setup anything?
@@zenobiooibonez5097 you could setup the mini pc to launch something like Parsec on initial boot, then connect with you phone to parsec to use it as a monitor. I don't know if the Quest 3 will connect whilst parsec is connected though 👍
@DarthChiropractusthe lag is still there right? or is it just me? I have a low spec laptop running on i7 7th gen and gtx 1050ti… i noticed both my mouse and applications are lagging a bit. i haven’t gone through the settings though.
Thanks for this. I agree that Immersed is the leader of the pack. I work in it four to five hours a day and do struggle with glitches like in this video. It's still worth it, and I have ordered the Visor headset which I expect will take the experience to a whole new level. There is also Fluid, which is well worth checking out in free Beta. The big advantage is that it doesn't need a computer. It too has glitches and crashes quite a bit. BUT, this is going to be a big part of VR from now on, and it will absolutely add significant value of VR for productivity and collaboration (one central aspect not mentioned here). Thanks again.
Interesting... I was not aware of the Visor headset, perhaps because I cancelled my ImmersedVr membership after getting frustrated with all the problems with it (described in this video). My personal feeling is that given what I perceive as the lack of quality of the immersedVR app, I will wait to see if the Visor headset delivers as promised. I already have xReal Air, which seems similar (though less feature packed) and the Meta Quest. I need to see the value of the Visor headset before I commit to it.
Totally understand. I put an early order in (full refundable until you submit ipd/face scan and get it specifically made for you) , and got it slightly cheaper, but I have on and off considered getting a full refund. It should be as clear as the Xreal air/air 2, but with an fov above the Quest 2. If it had displayport capability and was confirmed as working with steamvr, I wouldn't think twice as it would be perfect for sim racing/flying, as well as being used for work. I have no doubt it will work with steamvr at some point, but it will be over usb/WiFi, so will have compression and quite high lag to use the full resolution. It just seems a shame to spend my own money (and quite a bit) on something I may mostly use for work. The company I work for will love the potential extra productivity for free! 😁
I got into immersed recently, and I have to say, they're 80% ready.
I agree, I would personally like a slightly better resolution headset (using PICO 4),and slightly better Passthrough. Software wise I still come up against issues which is a pain when you need to get something done. Hopefully the perfect headset (reasonably priced) is only a year or so away, and the software fine tuned over the coming year to then have a hopefully faultless experience 👍
I got a Quest Pro 2 days ago and have been using Immersed as well. I am blown away and have been able to do everything with it
@@ForeverAnonymous it has really come a long way since I made this video, glad you're enjoying it 👍
@@DayDreamerVR yea, I’m actually returning it and waiting for the quest 3 now, as it seems the same, and better in some aspects at only half the price
Great video, maybe I’ll try working in VR. Have to get loaded up with some programs and give it a go.
Great video! Let me share some of my personal experiences on this as well, in case it helps.
I've been using Immersed VR for the last four months as my fulltime development environment (I'm a software engineer, touch typist). I have 3 virtual monitors (my two side ones I set to 1440x900 for web research and Teams/Outlook), and my main one is set 1920x1080. And, barring the occasional glitches you mention in your video, Immersed has actually been quite useful for me. I'm able to attend Teams meetings (using the virtual cam), audio is a bit delayed but I connect directly via bluetooth to the laptop to prevent these delays. I develop in Visual Studio and IntelliJ with no problems. Outlook, Word, etc work without problems. It truly feels like attaching extra monitors to your laptop while sitting in some exotic environment (like deep in Space, or a Cave, or a Space Station, or a Coffee House). The only thing I'm not liking is that I am limited to being within a few feet of my laptop because my bluetooth keyboard and mouse don't work well with the Oculus quest (special keys don't pass through, such as the Windows key and some function keys, some of which I need in my IDEs), so I must connect directly via bluetooth to the laptop. Regardless of these small drawbacks, it is a very useful environment for software developers ASSUMING you are a touch typist. I agree with your comments you made about Immersed, where it is a little glitchy here and there, but overall it is quite useable.
As an aside, in Immersed, I've also made use of their "co-work" feature, where you can go to any of the environments and work alongside random other users. I've met some interesting people using this feature, including some Immersed developers.
I tried Workrooms, but I agree with everything you said about it. I've been unable to be productive in it yet. Plus, the only useful environment is an "Office" environment. Who wants to be in an Office environment when you could be somewhere exotic like a beach or on top of a mountain or underwater?
I've also tried vSpatial, and even though I simply loved the basketball hoop tool, I didn't care much for the environment -- it requires learning a totally different way of doing work --, and constant need for the controllers. Yes it was a clean environment, but I found that the learning curve is a bit too much for somebody who has to juggle many windows and apps.
Side note: independent of the software you use above, I would strongly recommend you get a better strap with battery and face shield for your Oculus quest to make your long work hours be less stressful on your face!
I hope these help!
Thanks! Interesting to hear all of that - I have been using the Quest 2 with Immersed, and have found the same issues with the keyboard and mouse connected directly to the headset, and my PC is not located where I can work (by a racing sim rig) so this was vital. Immersed released for the PICO 4 in beta, and although it doesn't have Passthrough for the keyboard or tracked keyboard options, the image quality when using a 1920 x 1080 screen in immersed, is about the same as when I was supersampling/set to 3840 x 2160 with the quest 2. This means I can run it off a lower spec PC with the same visual quality. I have a 15m active usb cable, so might use that and put my keyboard and mouse into that so I can use them better than connected to the headset. I use the KIWI battery strap for the Quest 2 which is super comfy 👍 thanks for the tips. Check out my later video - it's a brief update following this one, thanks again
@@DayDreamerVR hello, i see your answer is 2 month old: you say, no passthrough with the pico4 ?
hmm.. at this video here it shows passthrough, and with better readability of the key-signs on the keyboard compared to passthrough with the quest2
i have only tested with the pico4 once, without passthrough sofar, but liked it
the lenses with better e2ec compared to the quest2 are very good for such szenarios
wondering form witch setup you came, when now using 1920x1080 on your main-screen in immersed an happy with that
i think its an great upgrade for people with laptop, and 1080p resolution or even less.. when you now have it
a) in bigger
b) more far away (about 2-3m focus-distance in VR) compared to the 50-60cm on the laptop - so easier for eyes past 45 year-old people ;)
c) 2 or 3 monitors instead of only one
BUT: when you come from an descent monitor-setup - for example a 3440x1440p or 3840x2160p Single-Screen-setup,
it feels for me like a downgrade..
and iam not only referring to the 2160x2160 Headset-Resolution compared to 3840x2160...
its more: let me explane
it feels for me a little bit like a step back..
i was using dual-Monitor (and at some time tripple-Monitor) Setup for 25 years
for me, it was a step up, going from 2 monitors to one monitor with high resolution
more freedom in scaling your windows, not so much headturning anymore, not working with your head turned to the side,...
it looks always very impressive when you can have 5 windows in VR or even more in "vSpatial"
but vSpatial showed it clearly for me: you do not want to work with a 180° workspace... thats not possible..
so you are "scroling" the windows right to left, left to right.... its like virtual desktops on windows: Windwos-key + arrow-keys
for me its better to stack 2 virtual montiors above each other, so the head does not have to turn left to right
but only slightly up and down
if there is a third monitor, than only for unimprotant things, like teams where maybe once in an hour i have to look at
i think - in some years - when headset resolutions go up significantly, we will see the same thing as in real world...
people trading there 2 or 3 monitor-setups for a 1-monitor-setup with high resolution
in the moment many monitors in VR is "cool", but also necessary, because of the still (too) low resolution of the headsets..
you have to use more monitors, spread them out wide, so you can benefit form more pixels..
the quest2 with immersed was for me on kind of border, where i could say: ok, for 2h.. but.. the resolution.. you have to be a vr-enthusiast to do that for real
the pico4 with the better E2EC makes it for me much more a thing, that i say: yea.. i can imagine to use it much more often..
i use the Pico4 without facegasket.. so maximal close to the lenses, highest FOV
and i can still see parts of the real world around me, what allows me to stay even longer in VR
still iam looking forward to resolutions like 2560x2560 or 2880x2880 ... i think text, desktop, etc.. would benefit a lot from that
i also hope for better colors.. head 9 HEadsets in the last 6 years..
and: non of them i would say: yes, i can use it to edit a video or yes, i can use it to edit fotos..
@@reinhardjud8945 Passthrough is now available with the pico 4, but it is not quite clear enough for comfortable reading of keyboard or note paper etc. I have got a spare AMVR facial interface and cut out the bottom section to help with reading etc. It is much more usable than the Quest 2,but I am also looking forward to higher resolutions and better Passthrough cameras 👍
@@DayDreamerVR in 5 years:
resolution of the pimax crystal (2880x2880),
Passthrough quality of the Varjo XR3
and Formfactor of Pico4 or smaler
;-)
thats my wishlist.. then it would be for sure a great monitor-replacement
for now, it is doable, but i guess for 95% of people which are not vr-enthusiasts, the downsides are in the moment too big, to consider working in VR for real
As of right now. Immersed is fantastic. They've really tightened up their UI, and with the tracking update on quest 2. It's a breeze to work in. Workrooms on the other hand. It won't even launch on my headset. I don't even consider Virtual Desktop as an option. It's necessary now a days for a VD environment to be fitted with hand tracking, and on the fly capabilities.
That is good to hear, as I wanted to try it on the Quest 3 next week. The vastly superior colour passthrough and pancake lenses should make a big difference too. I am really looking forward to seeing it run on their own 4k per eye micro-OLED headset most though.
I'm really looking forward to trying it on the Quest 3,but I anticipate the immersed 3 will blow my mind for working in VR 🤞
@@DayDreamerVR If visor lives up to the hype. It'll be the beginning of an entirely new era in computing. I'm super syked.
@@Hellknight27 I don't know if it will be optimized on Q3 right out of the gate, but it will definitely be 100% better.
I'm thinking about saving up for the Pico 4 by Christmas and this is a pretty cool feature.
I guess for screen settings I can create a different profile/account for my OS just for VR settings.
I wonder how tough it is to create my own environments for Immersed.
I hope, and expect that by next Christmas, you'll have more choice. The big caveat about Pico 4 for me is the cheap front camera for mix reality mode. It's a single camera, so everything is rendered in 2D when you walk and want to catch objects, and therefore it's hard to evaluate distances. and the image quality of that front camera is crap.
That aside, I find it a great headset despite the low battery autonomy (which still is better than Quest 2). With Immersed I think it last max 1.5 hours for me. (I have to time it thou... I just know it's short). I plan to attach a power bank to it, to increase battery autonomy.
@@superkikim4916 That's true, a mixed reality mode could make it so I can set up those screens within my room. Or have other Avatars around be they AI or people maybe?
I suspect the next generation of front cameras will be colour and 3D, or fake 3D even.
Agreed, the battery setup it has is one thing I wish was better. I'm so glad 3rd party people are on top of this and can setup batteries to fit in.
Though with usb-c as the charging port, any battery could work if you attach it comfortably with Velcro.
@@kairon156 Immersed has mixed reality. Works ok. Just not the best with the single cam ln the pico 4. Note it has color and is composing with both eyes. It's just weird if you look at your hands or your phone and it doesn't really allow to watch your phone for example. Colors are weird and the resolution is too bad. But this is still ok to use to see your environment while working on the virtual desktop.
Regarding other avatars, Immersed has public rooms you can join. In that mode, you can see other people's avatars while working, and you can hear conversations (and participate) if people are note muted.
As per the power pack I wouldn't scratch it to the helmet. I'd rather put it in a waistbag or a side pocket. I have a 20k mAh power bank that would be perfect for that
I've been experimenting with Meta Remote Desktop. I like that I can have local browser windows open at the same time, but I really like that |Virtual |Desktop controls the mouse cursor and forwards audio. Unfortunately Remote Desktop is a lot less stable on my Windows machine than on MacOS. It drops connections randomly and eats memory, requiring reboots every couple of days.
I still have to try Immersed, but I've had trouble getting it to connect in the past.
I want to be able to use two PCs at the same time, so I can use Mac and Windows and maybe even Linux desktops concurrently.
This is amazing. I'm planning to buy a Quest 3 and working in VR will definitely help me focus. I have a very specific question. Can you use any of these with passthrough?
Awesome-hope you like your Quest 3 when you get it. Immersed you can use passthrough to see your keyboard, or passthrough portals to see other things (you can place the portals where you want them), or you can use passthrough everything but still see your virtual monitors. You can do passthrough keyboard area in Meta Horizon Workrooms (which I think is better than immersed's keyboard passthrough as its a really neat rectangle on the desk), I haven't tried Workrooms for a while though and can't remember a passthrough ability for the whole environment whilst seeing your monitors. I'm pretty sure virtual desktop has a passthrough environment, but I've not looked to use passthrough in virtual desktop for a while, would be the best option for flat screen gaming out of the 3 apps though 👍
Just checked virtual desktop, and if you go to environments, there is a passthrough option 👍 immersed is free for 3 monitors, but yeah it's not quite the same as 9,not sure you will find that amount in any app soon 🤔
@Ghost_Bear_Trader That's right, if you use in in a streak, (15 minutes for 3 days) you then get the Pro options 👍
Why doesn't this channel have more subs wtf
Thanks for the comment, it means a lot. I've only been doing this three months, and hope to keep going 👍
@@DayDreamerVR keep at it. very good content
Subscribed just because of this comment, and great video!
@@kohx_io Thank you! I hope to continue bringing you more similar content and I'm glad you liked it 👍
Great Video. Thank you. I'd be curious how you feel about the improvement they brought within the last 4 months ? I just got me a Pico 4, and I tried Immersed. I'm on Manjaro, and it might be buggier than with Windows. But I like it so far. I just hope I had better control over the monitor resolution and also a way to save and reset monitor position. However, I've seen a lot of bug when I disconnect and reconnect...
Thanks, glad you liked it, I find immersed is really useful, it should save monitor setup, and I don't really experience any bugs now with windows. It might be worth going on the immersed Discord channel, they have been really helpful and might have some answers for your issues/bugs 👍
I personal use Desktop VR and Vorpx, Vorpx Desktop I think has the best clarity for text without needing any big adjustments for singe Monitor use. There are fake monitor Adapters that can physically simulates a connected Monitor maybe give this a try to get more Monitors in VR ( I have not tried it by myself).
I have some monitor plugs, so shall give this a go, thanks!
@@DayDreamerVR I have googled this "FUERAN dummy plug,Headless Ghost, Display Emulator HDMI-compatible HDMI-compatible" with this bellow comment "Works great with Virtual Desktop on Oculus Rift & HTC Vive" Looks like you can get them for all kind of outputs to emulate a "real" Monitor. Good luck and please let me know if it worked.
I worked in VR today, last time I tried it, maybe 2 years ago it wasn't great but it's a lot better now. I'm a bit confused by the option of tracked keyboards or remote keyboards on the meta help article they have though. That wasn't a thing last time I tried, so really keen to get a supported keyboard.
It has come a long way, not perfect but it's getting usable. It could be worth watching my other video about tracked keyboards ruclips.net/video/Nz_qvGBOWZE/видео.html hopefully it will save you some hassle/time 👍
@@DayDreamerVR perfect! thanks, I'll check it out right now.
which one can you use with 0 wifi or data, eg on the beach, amazon rainforest, places without wifi or cell hotspot
Immersed you can use over a USB cable so that's your best option, although you could create a WiFi hot-spot from your laptop, or phone and it shouldn't use any network data, just between the headset and laptop/phone 👍
Hey @Day Dreamer VR Is there a way to use the new Quest 2 touch keyboard mode with the virtual keyboard for a standing work and screen floating experience?
Hi, off the top of my head, you can use a virtual keyboard in immersed, and should be able to do it standing up with your floating screens. I can't remember, but I'd be surprised if you can't do that in Horizon Workrooms too. You might just have to recent re your view when you stand up and down so the monitors and virtual keyboard are where you want them. Hope that helps and I hope I understood your query right 👍
thank you for this video! Where did you get your windows picture from btw, it's beautiful
Glad you liked the video 👍 I can't remember exactly where I go the background now, I think it was from one of the stock image sites like istock photo or something. I've had a look but can't find it unfortunately online.
no worries man, thanks for having a look. I've subscribed, looking forward to the next videos. @@DayDreamerVR
Immersed its blurry on sides tho. I have one. Is Virtual desktop or Workrooms much SHARPER/CLEARER when it comes to graphics and text(monitors)? One thing I like about immersed is you can see your actual keyboard but still not clear enough.
I think it mostly depends on which headset you use, and what resolutions your monitors are set to in immersed. The Quest 2 and QPro is a bit blurry and is difficult to make as comfortable as I would want, Quest 3 is much better. PICO 4 and PICO 4 Ultra have bad aliasing, so Quest 3 is my prefered option. The Quest 3 is still limited by it's resolution though - the bigger your screens are the easier it will be, and the higher resolution you set them to the better for image clarity even if it is supersampling about what the display can provide. I find Immersed clearer than Meta Horizon Workrooms, but Workrooms always works reliably for me, whereas immersed can be very buggy. Hope that helps
@@markbrown1247 Thank you for taking time on this and I appreciate it. I setup my monitors to 1920. But its still blurry on edges. Its true it varies on headset vr. I have both Q2 and QPro. I'm getting that Immersed Visor pretty soon and see if its really true of its 4K claim.
So much of the Immersed app has improved. I hope that @Day Dreamer VR has done an "update" video to show the amazing changes that the team at Immersed has made. I LOVE working in VR on their app. I mean, not even JUST working, but I even hop on to Immersed on the weekends for consumption.
There's just something about having your phone in VR as a huge screen next to your main monitor, then having a monitor on top of that to play videos, while you setup a monitor to the right of your main monitor for chats like Discord or Messenger, etc.
It's a really great experience at the moment and a lot of issues have been resolved.
I personally can't wait until they get DRS supported in app for the Quest 2 v55 update. DRS is going to make the on screen text EVEN CLEARER than it is now. Wish there was an update video for this, otherwise, great vid. You get a thumbs up from me.
I have done two updated videos since this one, Immersed really has come a long way and is really good to use. I still unfortunately do have a couple of faults which they haven't fixed and I reported earlier in the year, such as in some cases (on my laptop) sound isn't passed through to the headset, unless you unmute your computer, but then it's loud and slightly out of sync between the headset and computer. Hopefully it will just continue to get better. Thank you for your comment 👍
@@DayDreamerVR I can help with the sound issue. Same thing happened on my laptop and I was able to mute the laptop sound, but the headset would play the audio instead of the laptop speakers.
I'm gonna also go check out the other update videos too.
@@TriMuXx No matter what I do I can't get the sound to come out of the headset only, and this happens with both the PICO 4 and Quest Pro. I have reported it a handful of times over about 6 months, and they say they are aware of this issue, but still no fix. I have to use headphones as a workaround. Hope you like the update video's, there are 2 about immersed 👍
@@TriMuXx Also, I'm not sure it is an immersed issue, could be a windows issue. I'll try and figure it out 🤔
@@DayDreamerVR I will let you know what steps I take on my Quest 2 Immersed setup at home with my laptop once I am out from work. It works perfectly for me. I'll reply back with the steps here in the comments.
Can USB c be used for horizon. I find it more stable than immersed. Most times I just want to sit and work but the constant setup with immersed can be very frustrating. I have poor internet. Is it possible to use USB. c with horizon?
Thanks for the video
I don't think usb connection can be used with Horizon Workrooms unfortunately. I just did another video about working in Horizon Workrooms, and I have been surprised at how stable it is compared to immersed. The setup with Immersed can be off putting. I'll take a look to see if usb can be used with Horizon and will update 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thanks.
Despite immersed being superior. Stability is very important for a person doing serious work. I wish horizon has USB connection.
I have a question, can i use my quest 2 to play pcvr games in immersed? I know that you can use virtual desktop to play pcvr games. Infact i cant use the oculas software.. because it doesnt support my gpu anymore..
Unfortunately you can't use immersed for pcvr. You can use it for flat screen gaming, but other apps do that better with lower latency. You could take a look at steam link in case that works, I did a guide here: ruclips.net/video/pbaRjaHtCZM/видео.html
Virtual desktop or Alvr are other options, hope that helps 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thank you so much(/_;)/~~
My immersed doesen't work if my main fisical monitor is switched off.
So I can have 5 monitors
but the two real one need to be on ?!
Vspatial seems to be better than all but the main thing is
it would be so nice if we could drag and drop and move the virtual monitors if our mouse and not the controller.
Could u make a video how to optimize the nvidia or windows to work along better with quest 2?
I mean should I high something so that the vision get better
its kinda blurry
I unfortunately haven't come across this as I only have one monitor, and that seems to detect it even if it is on standby. Are your monitors completely off or in standby? I'm trying to think of options but they all have compromises - a dummy plug would allow you to have no monitors on, but then if you want to use a monitor you have to reconnect it etc. Might be worth going on the immersed discord in case they have some advice/options. If I think of anything I reply again, hope you find a solution 👍
@@whoamit4642 The only thing I did was to add a 4k resolution dummy plug, that allows you to have a 4k resolution monitor in VR, that makes it slightly clearer, but I will consider a video and how to optimise it 👍
@@DayDreamerVR ty
Amazing video!!!
Thank you, glad you like it 👍
Which headset are using for this ?
@@Gala23Milk I currently use the Meta Quest 3 for this. I find the pico 4 and PICO 4 Ultra have very bad aliasing which makes it look like straight lines are shimmering which is really off putting and looks worse. The Quest 3 is probably the best reasonably priced headset for this.
@@DayDreamerVR thank you for answering. You are the only person who explained the whole VR thing properly. Please keep doing what you are doing, you are helping so much!
Si può usare anche per il gaming? Esempio simulando la classifica postazione 3 monitor?
Sfortunatamente, nei miei test finora, non funziona per i giochi. Quindi per una configurazione a 3 monitor, o meglio per un'immersione, avrai comunque bisogno di tre monitor, o per riprodurlo in Realtà Virtuale.
Ok grazie per la risposta
What headset were you using?
I was using a Quest 2, but I now use the PICO 4 with Immersed, and it's working really well 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thank you!
i tried immersed, meta horizon and virtual desktop. Vd is much better for gaming mostly gave me a 72 fps. Other app's fps performance is teribble.
Totally agree, it isn't really possible in immersed or workrooms. Immersed does show low latency, but it just cannot cope with a game stream for some reason. Steam VR could be another good option to then view your desktop/game 👍
hello ! what I need is to work remotelly, is it possible ? I want to connect my bluetooth keyboard and mouse in my quest3 let my pc at home and work in a different network, is it possible ? thank you
@@paulosantana6190 I believe it is possible, but I haven't done it myself. Latency could be an issue and will depend on network between you and your PC. I would recommend asking a bit further on the immersed discord channel which can be found here:discord.gg/n7RUgqvt
Good luck with finding the info you are after 👍🤞
hi, Can I work in any laptop even having only an Intel Iris XE integrated graphics?
Yes you can, but there may be limits on how many monitors, and how high the resolution of them can be in VR, which all depend on what your laptop can cope with 👍
@@DayDreamerVR I see..thank you so much on your reply..
Does immersed require vr ready pc?
It doesn't which is the amazing thing about it! It just passes the monitor feed across. It does need slightly more power than running a straight forward physical monitor, but it your PC can run multiple monitors, then it will likely work with Immersed 👍
immersed is very lagging, useless ! my i7 pc in the immersed are like i1, clicking takes a sec to responds.
What does your latency show as in the settings menu? I take it your pc is connected via ethernet? Could be worth going on the immersed discord as that lag is not normal. Hope you get it sorted 👍
Its only me having pixelated image while using immersed?
@@Shootfix_AS which headset are you using? I find that the Quest 3 is pretty good, but I would still want it slightly clearer. I find pico 4 and PICO 4 Ultra have bad aliasing in immersed due to the pixel arrangement and with so many straight lines etc with text/windows
@@DayDreamerVR Meta Quest 2, i see these tiny pixels, and it’s quite difficult to read the text. It resembles a projector image on a wall-when you get close to the wall, you can see tiny squares.
Thank you so much for quick response
@@Shootfix_AS Unfortunately that is a limit of the headset resolution of the Quest 2. Pixels are more noticeable for trying to read text etc in productivity apps like immersed. What I would recommend is expanding the screen size in immersed to make seeing the pixels less of an issue. Just in case you think of changing headset, the PICO 4,and PICO 4 Ultra are not good for immersed due to the way the pixels are arranged on the headsets screens means that there is alot of aliasing (shimmering pixels) when dealing with straight lines and text in perfectly horizontal or vertical lines like with productivity apps. So the Quest 3 is currently the best to recommend, and Quest 3s should be good when out. I hope that helps
@@DayDreamerVR Of course, it helped! Thank you so much for your help! You’ve saved me hundreds of euros! I’m also considering buying Xreal Pro/Ultra or Viture glasses, but I’m not sure if it’s a good choice for working as a web designer, photographer, and filmmaker. Pixels are not acceptable when doing this kind of work. Have you perhaps tried these glasses? Do you think they are suitable for working on projects?
@@Shootfix_ASI have tried xreal airs and xreal air 2's. I would not recommend those for anything else other than watching Netflix etc or gaming - the field of view is quite small, and is like using a 24-26" monitor I would say at a couple of feet away, and the windows software (which allows you to have multiple monitors in the glasses) for stabilisation is poor or just doesn't work depending on settings and your pc hardware (mac works better apparently). They have just released the Xreal beam Pro, which is worth finding out some info about which should stabilise the image really well when paired with the Xreal glasses, I did try the standard xreal beam but it was underpowered and overheats. I haven't tried the Viture, but the software is meant to be excellent for using with pc/mac for multiple monitors and excellent stabilisation.
Just use the immerse workapp
Definitely, that's my conclusion in and from the video, I've been trying to use it on and off but keep coming across a number of issues, it's a great app, the best I have found, hopefully I'll be able to get past the issues, hope you liked the video 👍
too bad immersed vr has such a bad pricing model, if you could just buy it instead of having a subscription then it would certanly be the number one, but till that desktop+, vd mobile, vd desktop, whirlgig or the overlays are good enough
You can use it for free with 3 screens. If you then use it for a small amount of time on consecutive days then you get the 5 screens for free. They have had options previously to buy the pro (5 screen) level, and even had it at one point if you bought their Visor headset. Most options are now subscription though unless you are happy with the free access
@@DayDreamerVR my issue is rather the low resolution of the screens, usually I set my screens to 8k or even 16k when using them in VR. The free version offers you 1080p, which is a bad joke for VR screens. Not sure if you unlock resolutions by usuage too, and not even the pro supports 8k/16k so it already is outperformed image quality wise. 4k would be the minimum which is limited to the pro version
@@DasJev all I would say is that it is worth working out how many pixels are in your view on a screen in VR. I did calculate it a while ago (sad I know) and I can't remember if that was comparing to the Q2 or PICO 4, but a 32 inch monitor in VR was slightly lower than 1920x1080 due to the resolution of the vr headset. Even a 4k vr headset is 4k for the whole of your view in one eye, so a monitor taking up part of that space will be less than 4k. Using higher resolutions will help slightly with aliasing/clarity, however the limits are currently the resolution of the vr headset, and not the resolutions in immersed. I think higher resolutions are included in their pro though, which you get access to free with consecutive days usage (over 15 mins per day). Their model does keep changing and isn't very clear which doesn't help
@@DayDreamerVR instead of calculating I would highly recommend to just try it. Text/Lines/UI/Images are a lot clearer and havr less/no shimmering left with high res settings. You can't just calculate based on headset res as you work with two overlaying rasters that are not congruent plus one is distorded which alone already requires additional source resolution for distortion correction. 1080p is maybe good enough for 720p VR Devices, but not for something like a pico, there 8k still does wonders and should be the default imo
@@DasJev I found 4k useful with the Q2, but not with the PICO 4. I wouldn't run multiple monitors at 8k. I have found that running 8k or more brought barely any improvement with a 4k per eye headset, and definitely not worth it considering the extra performance required to run it. I find 4k vr headset clear enough, and still won't be looking to use 8k for multiple monitors with it. This is unlikely to be a solution for you (pro has max of 4k per eye) . Hope you manage to find something else 👍
Too bad Immersed isn't quite there yet. Maybe it will improve in a year or two... Not buying it yet!
It is definitely in a better state now, so if you have a VR headset, it is worth giving immersed a go as it is free to use 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Yea I have Rift CV1 and Quest 2. Waiting for my Quest 3 to arrive, time to test then 😄
Is there a way to use a phone as a display then using a mini pc with a power bank like the MeLe quitter 3C to then connect a quest 3 without any monitor to setup anything?
@@zenobiooibonez5097 you could setup the mini pc to launch something like Parsec on initial boot, then connect with you phone to parsec to use it as a monitor. I don't know if the Quest 3 will connect whilst parsec is connected though 👍
@DarthChiropractusthe lag is still there right? or is it just me? I have a low spec laptop running on i7 7th gen and gtx 1050ti… i noticed both my mouse and applications are lagging a bit. i haven’t gone through the settings though.
the plosives suck