Can VR Replace Your Monitors in 2024?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @dorzaii
    @dorzaii 5 месяцев назад +77

    I feel like VR is going to be huge in 10 years from now

    • @toututu2993
      @toututu2993 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yea is possible since the real bottleneck is the lack of compelling games and softwares. I get that is hard to make a softwares for vr/ar since is highly advanced compare to old flatscreen and company think is too risk to invest in it

    • @DueceSpice
      @DueceSpice 5 месяцев назад +7

      NOPE SOONER THAN THAT..ITS JUST ONE APP AWAY

    • @ShapeshifteRTheRadiusGameCat
      @ShapeshifteRTheRadiusGameCat 5 месяцев назад

      Same!

    • @Crittek
      @Crittek 5 месяцев назад +1

      That’s what we all thought 10 years ago lol Without proper locomotion that isn’t jank and take up a bunch of space it will not be mainstream.

    • @dorzaii
      @dorzaii 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Crittek but its already getting more mainstream it wil now be more used for ar with apple coming into the industry

  • @yuanchang2306
    @yuanchang2306 Месяц назад +7

    I've been running my PC with no monitors for over a year now and it's totally life changing. People don't realize that not only do you have the ability to spawn as many monitors as you want in VR, but you can view them from whatever position is most comfortable, almost eliminating the neck and back pain of being seated at a desk for hours at a time.

    • @karlschleifenbaum5793
      @karlschleifenbaum5793 3 дня назад

      What headst and software are you using? I want to try this too

    • @gurdeepsingh2837
      @gurdeepsingh2837 Час назад

      @@karlschleifenbaum5793 That sounds incredible! How do you maintain productivity with both the keyboard and mouse while staying equally comfortable, though?

  • @TheUltimate-tg9ge
    @TheUltimate-tg9ge Месяц назад +4

    this is the only usercase. Imagine unlimited monitors, moving them around as u like, zoom in zoom out. Limitless Whiteboard. Damn

  • @LiyoKikon
    @LiyoKikon 5 месяцев назад +19

    Been using immersed everyday for my work around 10+ hours for around 3 months now. You just need a good headstrap and with a powerbank or something on the back of your head for weight distribution. It does take some "getting used to", but after about a week, it gets really comfortable for long working sessions without any eye strain or anything. Oh! And get a charger with a long usb cable for continuous power...

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  5 месяцев назад

      Hell yeah, mate! Thanks! I've had a Kiwi head strap before for my Quest 2, but I never bothered buying another strap for my Quest 3 since I like lying down without anything poking the back of my head. But as you said, for working long sessions on an app like Immersed, another strap could come in handy.

    • @blakephotographytexas
      @blakephotographytexas 5 месяцев назад +1

      Same here about immersed. Work an 8+ hour work day every day in immersed for a couple months now. I just use the default head strap because it’s super light and have my Quest plugged in the whole time.
      After work, if I still play or do anything else, I have a BoboVR strap with external batteries I’ll use.

    • @enrothable
      @enrothable 4 месяца назад

      Do you need a good video card for immersed?

    • @blakephotographytexas
      @blakephotographytexas 4 месяца назад +1

      @@enrothable Not really. My PC has a good video card but my laptop is just a basic $600-700 laptop with an integrated video card and it works just fine on both machines

    • @s.s616
      @s.s616 4 месяца назад

      Dear, do you suggest a particular VR headset to work with multiple monitors?

  • @pgreeff
    @pgreeff 5 месяцев назад +26

    To address the head strap discomfort, I added the Bobo VR M3 head strap. I removed the facial interface allowing the headset to float in front of my face. I prefer passthrough most of the time so this feels most natural as it allows me better peripheral vision. I have three batteries with two on the charging dock allowing me uninterrupted work and game play. The longest session so far has been 14 hours.
    Eye fatigue is possibly due to the focal point as you mentioned. I have a set of contact lenses specifically for VR with a prescription moving the focal point from about 1.3 - 1.5m to close of infinity. I've found with this setup my eyes don't get tired with prolonged use and the halo style strap is very comfortable for extended use. The batteries at the back do a great job of balancing the weight.
    With immersed it helps to have a proper GPU. On my gaming laptop I have a 4080. I don't seem to notice any performance degradation with virtual screens added. With my work laptop which has an on board Intel graphics chip every virtual monitor adds significant CPU load and as such I use a dummy HDMI dongle for the second screen.
    Gaming is great on the Quest, except for latency sensitive games. On Fortnite the latency is significant enough that I prefer to play on my 16 inch laptop screen. For most other games the latency is low enough that I don't notice it.
    I use both Virtual Desktop (best for gaming) and Immersed (best for productivity) and then also have Fluid for on the go connectivity in the cloud.

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank for the in-depth explanation! Great tips!

    • @Calbac-Senbreak
      @Calbac-Senbreak Месяц назад

      Dont you bother with the electric bill?

    • @pgreeff
      @pgreeff Месяц назад +1

      @@Calbac-Senbreak Compared with a traditional large monitor the Quest 3 uses a lot less power for a much larger display.
      I'd be surprised if Quest 3 usage makes any noticeable difference in the electricity consumption.

  • @mitcharbiter3371
    @mitcharbiter3371 5 месяцев назад +28

    Remember to blink when you're wearing your VR headset. Dry eye and eye strain are common issues with prolonged headset wear.

    • @unorthodox5171
      @unorthodox5171 3 месяца назад +4

      Nobody. Nobody forgets to blink.

    • @mitcharbiter3371
      @mitcharbiter3371 2 месяца назад

      @@unorthodox5171 Straight from several eye care sites. "Screen use can disrupt your natural blink rhythm. Remember to blink regularly to keep your eyes moist and avoid dry eyes."

    • @kcchiefsproductions8687
      @kcchiefsproductions8687 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@unorthodox5171I'd double check but I'm pretty sure there has been studies done on it showing that vr gamers forget to blink. Idk why

    • @johnmcafee2751
      @johnmcafee2751 25 дней назад

      @@unorthodox5171 lol

  • @Guitar387
    @Guitar387 5 месяцев назад +5

    Meta quest 3 is a great accesible mainstream device, especially for people new to VR, but the resolution is not quite good enough at this point in affordable devices. Maybe in another 3 to 5 years .

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  5 месяцев назад +3

      It's getting there slowly but surely :)!

    • @TJ-bx5px
      @TJ-bx5px 5 месяцев назад +2

      gaming monitorer will always be ahead of VR displays, soon we vil ha real photographic quality in gaming monitors.

  • @FlockofSmeagles
    @FlockofSmeagles 3 месяца назад +1

    Definitely sharp enough. It's the weight mostly. However, a lot of people are going to complain about eye strain in the coming years. So we're definitely getting there, but not quite yet.

  • @mobthegamer5391
    @mobthegamer5391 Месяц назад +1

    You CAN use multiple monitors on Virtual Desktop (maybe you couldn't before) and what I like is that you can change the resolution of the virtual monitors, I usually play games on an ultrawide screen and enjoy my time.

    • @gurdeepsingh2837
      @gurdeepsingh2837 Час назад

      Is this what they enabled only recently with the latest update? If yes, I would like to buy this app & give it a try.

  • @victorforzani3433
    @victorforzani3433 Месяц назад +1

    why even go backwards with looking at 720p or 1080p, I have a 4k monitor and wont go back, until they make a Vr better than 5k per eye.

  • @ClydeDivision
    @ClydeDivision 5 месяцев назад +3

    Buy some comfortable headstrap instead of this default panties string. I have bobovr holo headstrap with their battery and additional 20000 mAh powerbank. I just finished playing 12 hours game session and i don't have any problems with headset or comfort. Immersed is good app when you figure out their controls and settings. For example you can turn off and on fingers tracking by touching your ring finger with thumb. But immersed audio streaming and some video streaming like RUclips are bad.

  • @cosmic4037
    @cosmic4037 5 месяцев назад +1

    Buy oled TV, monitor or VR app cinema.... Quest 3 blows me away for many reasons.

  • @thudang3039
    @thudang3039 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @BenRobinson1974
    @BenRobinson1974 4 месяца назад +1

    I don't understand why the keyboard and mouse needs to be paired with the headset - everything is happening in the PC, so surely the mouse and keyboard need to be connected to that? WHy would there be any lag?

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  4 месяца назад +1

      Depends on what your motives are. If you work remotely somewhere outside your house, you can connect it directly to your headset and use your PC that way in your headset. Otherwise it's of course adviceable to connect it directly to your PC for minimal lag/latency.

    • @gurdeepsingh2837
      @gurdeepsingh2837 56 минут назад

      @@reality-rise I have had the same question. Thanks for answering - makes sense :-)

  • @Melly0333
    @Melly0333 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great tips thnxxx

  • @colehurlbert2137
    @colehurlbert2137 Месяц назад

    Does anyone know if this could help with legal blindness? I recently found out i am losing my eyesight to an extent. Like 20/400 range, and i really don’t want to lose my job when it begins to affect me on that level.

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  Месяц назад

      I mean, you can definitely size up the screen and bring it closer if that helps seeing things better but other than that, it's just a window in a virtual space.

  • @DannyZero-mw2hz
    @DannyZero-mw2hz 5 месяцев назад +1

    This video is helpful 👍😌

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  5 месяцев назад

      Glad it helped you out my friend

  • @MrProGGEz
    @MrProGGEz Месяц назад

    Merhabalar Türkiye'de bulabileceğim meta quest 3 ve quest 2'yi aynı anda airlink oynarken kaldırabilicek modem öneriniz varmıdır?

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  Месяц назад

      I myself used an ASUS router but any router that support Wifi6 connection should do the trick.

    • @MrProGGEz
      @MrProGGEz Месяц назад

      @@reality-rise Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @user-fi6hg8vq6c
    @user-fi6hg8vq6c 5 месяцев назад

    I tried with the meta quest 2 but it’s not sharp enough

  • @joaofernandes9458
    @joaofernandes9458 4 месяца назад

    helped me alot thz

  • @TwinPeaksTrading
    @TwinPeaksTrading 2 месяца назад

    thanks for your video. do you have tested this with a remote desktop setup? What i mean is, your PC is at home and you are lets say in a coworking space and want to connect with your iphone with remote desktop to you pc. but instead of your iphone you now want to use your quest.

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  2 месяца назад +1

      I see what you mean, if you download the APK for remote desktop as a third party and install it that way on your quest, it might work but the UI and usability will be worse since the design is for Android phones. I would instead recommend using Virtual Desktop as a means to connect to your PC.

  • @MukeshDesiBhae
    @MukeshDesiBhae 2 месяца назад

    which graphics card you have on windows ?

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  2 месяца назад

      RTX 3080

    • @dpgiorgia
      @dpgiorgia Месяц назад

      @@reality-rise Hi, very interesting, I would like to use meta quest 3 for normal productivity (office 365, big queries in powerbi, some 3d modelling in sketchup and revit) no games, wen I'm not in office and I don't have 2 or 3 screens that I need. I wonder if I really need a laptop with an Nvidia GPU to do this (like said on meta website). I'm trying to use meta quest 3 on my samsung book with intel xe graphic (that by himself performs perfectly all 3d and queries) but I cannot use air link (doesn't even start) but only immersed agent but it is a mess, very nice view but the mouse is unusable. So I think I will change laptop, but I really don't like laptop with nvidia because they are too heavy. I would like to stay around 2.000€ not to much over. If you can help me it would be great: do I really need an NVIDIA GPU even if I don't play games to work with Meta quest 3?

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  Месяц назад

      See it like this, in essence you're deploying two monitors at once at a certain resolution. If it comes to 3D graphics, I would always advice looking into some sort of dedicated GPU like Nvidia or AMD. The takeaway is, how many screens do you need in the app (which is multiplied by 2 since your Quest renders both eyes) and at what resolution are you going to render them? On top of that, the 3D work you're performing will be additional energy cost so take that into account.

    • @dpgiorgia
      @dpgiorgia Месяц назад

      @@reality-rise so my laptop works because has "only" 2 monitors (the laptop screen and the 32'' external monitor) while with Meta it should run 2+2 in meta plus his monitor and it is not capable without a nvidia? thanks

  • @sadoishere1827
    @sadoishere1827 15 дней назад

    Merhabalar mert bende virtual desktop kullanıyorum çalışırken çok faydası oluyor ancak benim 3 tane monitörüm var ancak virtual desktop içinde 2 tane monitör koyabiliyorum 3. monitörü koyamamaktayım bununla ilgili nasıl bir çözüm üretebilirim (Hello Mert, I also use Virtual Desktop, and it's very useful while working. However, I have three monitors, but within Virtual Desktop, I can only set up two monitors, and I'm unable to add the third one. How can I find a solution for this issue?)

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  14 дней назад +1

      If you own a Quest 2 you can only open 2 monitors at once, with the Quest 3 it's 3 monitors.

    • @sadoishere1827
      @sadoishere1827 14 дней назад

      @@reality-rise thank you for information mate

  • @rueagonvyceratops2879
    @rueagonvyceratops2879 Месяц назад

    bad idea, i will never replace my pc monitor with vr ,, im not going to be having a vr headset straped on my face 24/7 So my pc monitor will always be my only pc monitor.

  • @aarongarcia2911
    @aarongarcia2911 5 месяцев назад +1

    What about as a standalone pc

  • @MSPHOTOGRAPHY-ep8by
    @MSPHOTOGRAPHY-ep8by 3 месяца назад

    when comparing wity normal eyes when we look desktop.. how much is quest 3 in out of 10 ? please reply

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  3 месяца назад +1

      I would say 7 to 8 / 10.

    • @MSPHOTOGRAPHY-ep8by
      @MSPHOTOGRAPHY-ep8by 3 месяца назад

      @@reality-rise yes i also feel same 7 to 8. but when we saw those people using vr videos in phone its so clear

  • @DasJev
    @DasJev 5 месяцев назад +1

    too bad immersed limits your res and has a subscription model for all features

  • @TJ-bx5px
    @TJ-bx5px 5 месяцев назад

    no. gaming-monitor graphics are waaay better than VR displays.. AND VR displays need to reach opp to 100 PPD to match a gaming monitor. that will be around 10-15 years

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  5 месяцев назад

      Hmm, we will see what time tells us but nonetheless still excited for the progression of VR =D

    • @ghostazp3377
      @ghostazp3377 Месяц назад +1

      It matters little when gaming for me. I have a qd oled monitor at 34 inches, but for some games such a mortal kombat its cool to play it on a huge virtual screen

    • @Dr.Twat.Waffle
      @Dr.Twat.Waffle Месяц назад

      yeah... they are better at graphics. VR is still great... they don't have to match a gaming monitor

  • @coolmacatrain9434
    @coolmacatrain9434 Месяц назад

    Simple answer... NO!. We are at least 10/14 years away from that happening.

    • @MrAnim8orVideos
      @MrAnim8orVideos 13 дней назад

      Reasons? I've used both virtual desktop and Immersed from time to time while working (3d animation). I did it when my back was bothering me and I didn't have access to a sit/stand desk. It worked pretty well.

    • @coolmacatrain9434
      @coolmacatrain9434 12 дней назад

      @@MrAnim8orVideos We'll see.. I still reckon we are a long way off VR becoming mainstream

    • @MrAnim8orVideos
      @MrAnim8orVideos 12 дней назад

      @@coolmacatrain9434 Yeah, you might be right there. Its plauged by lack of AAA games right now. And the visual fidelity isn't perfect yet...not enough pixel density and still annoying light leakage, but for most things those are minor issues. Plus a good portion of people just feel stupid wearing a VR headset.

  • @researcher2074
    @researcher2074 3 месяца назад

    great in theory, but at the moment it is not that great yet imo

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  3 месяца назад

      Let's hope the future will bring even crisper displays and it WILL! :D

  • @neoman4426
    @neoman4426 4 месяца назад

    Unfortunately the latest update to the agent ruins Immersed for anyone who has multiple physical monitors. Not only does it not show multiple physical monitors inside the app, it straight up tells you to unplug them rather than showing one physical and x virtual. Was using it just fine with two physical and two virtual prior. There's also allegations they're removing any posts pointing this out/critical of this from their official Subreddit and Discord, though I have not confirmed these allegations for myself.

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  4 месяца назад

      Oh really? That doesn't sound good. Hope they'll fix this issue soon

  • @Aaronsutube1
    @Aaronsutube1 4 месяца назад +1

    Why in the world are you wearing the original Quest 3 strap?
    That’s the type of hardware that should be burned on day one.
    I wear Meta Quest 3 8 hours a day for work - comfort requires a new strap like BoboVR or the like.

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  4 месяца назад +1

      Totally with you haha but I actually liked being able to lie down without something poking my head on the back.
      I recently received a headstrap from a company which I will do a review on and will use it on a day-to-day basis.

  • @VultureUk-Rich
    @VultureUk-Rich 5 месяцев назад

    I think once ai gets fully sorted there will be no need for monitors every game might be playable on every platform and the ai will sort your visual problems out

    • @Dr.Twat.Waffle
      @Dr.Twat.Waffle Месяц назад

      do you mean using VR instead of monitors

  • @yugdesiral
    @yugdesiral 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have no desire to use vr as my workstation. It's just not comfy for long sessions.

    • @toututu2993
      @toututu2993 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yea but it can be hugely improved from a silly strap and let all the weight slap in your face kinda way to wear it

    • @yugdesiral
      @yugdesiral 5 месяцев назад

      @@toututu2993 i have a nice strap but it's still not comfy to have a huge thing on your head for a long time. it it were more like the size of glasses I'd consider it for workstation.

    • @pixel_eyezd3805
      @pixel_eyezd3805 5 месяцев назад

      @@yugdesiralhave you seen the Bigscreen Beyond? Picture a “pro version” with passthrough and possibly inside out tracking.

    • @yugdesiral
      @yugdesiral 5 месяцев назад

      @@pixel_eyezd3805 it still looks a bit cumbersome but that device is heading in the right direction for me, for productivity anyway.

    • @Ballissle
      @Ballissle 5 месяцев назад

      ​@yugdesiral look at the immersed visor. The only thing putting me off it is the super expensive subscription it is also partly tied to.

  • @alanday5255
    @alanday5255 3 месяца назад +1

    ICK META

  • @lisov4575
    @lisov4575 4 месяца назад +1

    The Virtual Desktop App is NOT free. Its $20.

  • @RolandDobbins
    @RolandDobbins 5 месяцев назад +6

    You need to get a battery strap which is more comfortable than the stock strap. The BoBoVR S3 is generally considered to be the best one.
    I work in Immersed every day with my Quest 3 & MacBook Pro M3. It works very well, & Immersed tracks & displays my Apple Wireless Keyboard without using the portal function.

  • @rafaelaugustomendesmoreira6602
    @rafaelaugustomendesmoreira6602 3 месяца назад +11

    the new version of Virtual Desktop now allows multiple monitors

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  3 месяца назад

      I will make a video soon on that :)

    • @krissythecatboi
      @krissythecatboi 3 месяца назад

      Sadly artificially limited to 2 monitors on Quest 2 and 3 monitors on Quest 3.
      When I was using Immersed, I had all of my 4 monitors in VR on the Quest 2 and it was as crisp as Virtual Desktop is (better than SteamVR, Bigscreen Beta and Oculus Link).
      However Immersed removed the physical display functionality, basically ruining the program for me - now it asks you to UNPLUG YOUR MONITORS if you have more than 1 physical monitor connected.
      So basically there is no way for me to have a bunch of physical monitors in VR, bummer.

    • @rafaelaugustomendesmoreira6602
      @rafaelaugustomendesmoreira6602 3 месяца назад +1

      @@krissythecatboi yeah, this is the whole reason I stopped using immersed. I have two physical monitors and a virtual wide screen driver that pretends to be a connected monitor. At least now I can use them in Virtual Desktop. To me, 3 monitors are more than enough, but I know there are use cases that need more screens.

    • @pomi1298
      @pomi1298 Месяц назад

      ​@@rafaelaugustomendesmoreira6602 how does virtual desktop handle multiple virtual monitors these days? can you do more than 2?

    • @MrAnim8orVideos
      @MrAnim8orVideos 13 дней назад

      @@pomi1298 I have three physical monitors and Virtual Desktop still shows only 2, at least on the Quest 2. Not sure about the Quest 3.

  • @kidzorro
    @kidzorro 5 месяцев назад +1

    When Virtual Desktop has multiple monitor support then were done

  • @BrianBGeronimo
    @BrianBGeronimo Месяц назад

    Doesn't the Immersed app have a sketchy T&C's
    User content section 3.2:
    "3.2. You hereby grant (and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant) to Company an irrevocable, nonexclusive, royalty-free and fully paid, worldwide license to reproduce, distribute, publicly display and perform, prepare derivative works of, incorporate into other works, and otherwise use and exploit your User Content, and to grant sublicenses of the foregoing rights, solely for the purposes of including your User Content in the Site. You hereby irrevocably waive (and agree to cause to be waived) any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to your User Content."

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  Месяц назад

      eah it's indeed a bit sketchy, but I do not use Immersed anymore since VD has multiple monitors nowadays. Thanks for the heads up though ^^

  • @District7Studio
    @District7Studio 5 месяцев назад

    Using all these apps which is best for low latency daily work. not for gaming but for trading stocks or crypto? is it best to run multiple monitors with immerse or does it lag and what bout clarity is Virtual pc better for detailed work with one monitor? over immerse 5 monitor setup?

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  5 месяцев назад

      I use immersed for a multiple monitor setup and virtual desktop for somewhat better visual clarity. But all depends on how good your network is, of course. A Wifi 6 router is a must for it to work smoothly.

  • @filipivan5125
    @filipivan5125 4 месяца назад

    Man why the hell are u tortureing yourself without 3r party headstrap or addon ?! U dont even have hair so the plastic at the back must be biting into your skull... There are super cheap (under 10euro) silicone head rests that make world of difference.

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  4 месяца назад +1

      I know man haha but I had the BoboVR headstrap back with my Quest 2. I actually like being able to lie down without something digging into the back of my head. Will probably buy a decent headstrap in the near future for playing standing games.

    • @BROzMiK
      @BROzMiK 27 дней назад

      ​@@reality-rise You can buy addon to the default strap. It looks like a curve plastic (or pillow).

  • @muskerp
    @muskerp 3 месяца назад

    how did you play steam vr at your parents house? please make a vid to explain

    • @Exidose
      @Exidose 3 месяца назад

      Set up virtual desktop to work on external networks, not just your local network.

  • @Wolf0103
    @Wolf0103 5 месяцев назад

    What did you use for the remote session to work? As in programs used, router settings, did you had to leave your pc running for the entire time?

    • @reality-rise
      @reality-rise  5 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, for the remote session, your PC needs to be on and connected to your network. I use a Wifi6 connection, and it's directly connected with an ethernet cable.