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Nvidia's "Rare, Dumb, & Unreleased" GTX 340...
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Hello and Welcome to another Budget Builds video where today we're going to be taking a look at the Nvidia Geforce GTX340...Which technically isnt real...But after a while looking around did technically exist...Just not really. Sort of. Watch the video. It explains it better than this here bit of text can ever help to do so.
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Simcity 2013 OST
MGS Hidden Jazz/Sea Breeze
Intro - 0:00
The Specs - 0:19
The Geforce 300 Series - 1:27
The GTX340 Story - 3:38
Pre Benchmark Ramble - 6:18
The Benchmarks - 7:46
Benchmark Summary and Opinions - 13:33
Conclusion - 15:18
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Specs:
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
GPU: Nvidia Geforce "GTX340"
RAM: 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz
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If anyone wants a link to a high quality GPU-Z Screenshot of my own: i.imgur.com/PcAClp3.png it makes clear a few of the dumb differences with a standard retail GT340.
Hell, son, I want a link to where I can buy one of these :D
Not only if you can find some of those mysterious 800 series cards.
You're a Volvo 850 man? Which year?
@@Dtr146 my friend has a GTX850
GT240 being rebrand for OEM.
it's really fascinating to hear about how these is roughly equivalent to a Wish scam about a decade before it was a thing!
Nvidia truly are visionaries
Well, unlike a wish scam... You don't really get scammed. That would be the case if you didnt get what you ordered.
@@timweber4318 I was talking about how the BIOSes were flashed onto cards that were otherwise pretty crappy.
gets rare graphics card. puts it in the snow
@SaltinbanK lol
rare but worthless
better than a coaster
maybe
Some people believe even the snow can't cool down some gpus
Snow or water doesn't damage components, it only does if you run electricity through it afterwards. If you let it dry off it's fine. It's not the water that damages it, but the electricity running through it.
Yeah I keep my 750 ti outside whenever it snows as well
Keeps it cooler.
@@32bitrant it uses less energy as its on 'silent mode' all the time bc it's so cold
The only feasible way to cool a FX 8x series
@@MedicMain9 I use liquid nitrogen, but I can seem to get it under 70 degrees
Here's a good idea. The R9 360. Only sold to a few OEMs. It was never available for purchase to the public. Same for the Radeon R5 series.
I saw some rebranded r5’s being sold on my country’s equilavalent to ebay and they were not OEM brands
Just checked,there are even box images and were from brands like turboX
Radeon R6 is a very rare series in general too
@@tezcanaslan2877 Ah. I've only seen R5s being sold under the fact they were from Dell OEM systems.
@@tezcanaslan2877 Radeon R6 only ever made it as integrated graphics on laptops.
I have HD8570 same thing of R5 240
What for real? I have one my drawer i used and bought 2 years ago as an gpu till i got enough money to get a new one
I love how the Plymouth GTX with a 340 kept popping up lol
ah, i see you are trying out the all natural extreme cooling solutions today
I have this exact card! It was used in Acer prebuilts circa 2009-2011, one of which my friend has and he gave me this card when he upgraded his for a GTX 770. It sucks for sure! And you guessed it right, these PCs were only sold in Russia.
how convenient i just finished watching a video and this was uploaded 24 seconds ago, must be meant to be i guess
0:26 i like how you always do the Reveal of most things in the same spot :)
:v
at long last an epic video from the man himself
Gddr5 in a card that old?
Indeed. It is very strange
This was released very late into 200 series life cycle. The fact that the card have GDDR5 instead of GDDR3 that is more common on 200 series card probably because nvidia are using this as a test bed for their GDDR5 memory controller that will be used in Fermi that will succeed Tesla.
ATI Radeon HD 4770 had GDDR5 memory back in 2009
@@aikedso9262 AMD co-develop the standard for GDDR5 with memory maker. They were the first to use GDDR5 with HD4870 in 2008.
wdym, the GT 240 also had a GDDR5 variant
In my older gaming PC with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 cpu, I do have with it a GTX 570 also released in 2010. From my experiance, it can handle games made up till about 2015, maybe 2016.
570 in 2010? What the hell? The why on does earth my computer from 2011 have a gt 310 card?
@@nachomolaolivera7580 Maybe because its a laptop and my PC with the GTX 570 is a custom built desktop. The CPU is even older, the Core 2 Quad Q9550 is from early 2008.
I also have a GT 570 lying around somewhere, frankensteined the cooler a bit because fan blades broke during cleaning, so the entire plastic cover is off and the fan is now a 120mm case fan from an old OEM machine with the wires literally hotglued together... I dont know if it works though. Last time I ran it, before modifying the cooling, it constantly restarted whenever I launched a game, which probably means silicon degradation got to it and its unstable when it clocks to its normal maximum in the same way as a normal card would be thats OCed just a bit too far.
But damn, it just had so much raw power.
My man just uploaded a video at 2AM lol
For me it was uploades in 3 pm
@@dawger да
@@Djanbari dobre ve
@@Djanbari uh oh
@@salamiwallnut yee
heyy love your content, can you please take a look to the nvidia gt 1010?
I'd love to as soon as I can find it
*Me clicking the notification at half 1 in the morning*
I don’t need sleep I need answers
Bahzinga
01:27 "see the GTX 300 series doesn't exist to most people".
Every graphics card in 2021 "Hold my beer".
Accurate
fun fact: the latest supported driver for an nvidia gt 330M is the 2016 HWQL version! (and i still use it daily)
I had the 320 in my previous PC, a Packard Bell prebuilt, running alongside an i3 540. I really liked that PC, games didn't run at max detail but it was fine for me. :)
My first card was a GT 320, because I had a SFF PC. It overheated after about half an hour of playing a game so I had to play with the side panel off.
Damn bro that's crazy
I don't know why I'm here so early, but I can't complain. Nice video man!
how could you possibly know before watching it till the end
@@kaljaaheti I'm just too confident on this man's content haha
Back in February 2010, I bought an Alienware M11x R1 that had a 1.3 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo SU7300 (OC'ed to 1.73 GHz via BIOS), 4 GB (2x2) DDR3 800 RAM, and the NVIDIA GT 335M 1 GB DDR3. The cool thing was that, back when it was new, it had a fairly impressive battery life, and it could play any DX9 and DX10 game at 720p low/medium. I thought that was so cool because it was in such a tiny form factor (11" screen, 1366x768). Sure, it wasn't all that powerful, but it was a curiosity because it was only $799 with a student discount. It did just fine with RUclips videos and light browsing. I only just retired it as my daily driver because the cooling fan is getting noisy. One of these days, I'll revive it because it actually made for a really cool retro gaming machine with Windows 7.
I had a tendency to skip generation of GPU's so not really surprising I didn't know about these. I jumped gtom a GT8800 512 mb to a GTX560 ti 448 core, so not surprising really.
Most people will not aware about this. The entire 300 series are made just to satisfy OEM that keep asking new names every year even if nvidia did not come out with new series every year.
Let's put an extremely rare electronic device out in the snow.
There's no electricity in the snow, nothing is going to happen...
@@plaguis1391 Genius alert here. What is snow? Snow is water that's frozen. What happens when you take snow indoors? It melts and turns back into its original form which is water. And water on the electronics is good in what way? 🙄
I mean as long as its fully dry by the end of it should be fine.
Also rare ≠ valuable or significant
GTA V looks like a PlayStation game almost, just needs that texture warping and it would be perfect!
Budget Builds himself made a video on how to get GTA V run on hardware that was way below the system requirements. It even goes as far as 240p with no shadows.
enclave here, finally the video is out, thanks papa budget
You need to let the snow completely cover the card before testing it next time. Proper snow cooling increases performance up to 10% in some instances. Add another 4% if used in a RGB environment.
Can't wait until this guy gets to the rtx 3060, my grandkids will love that video.
Hey hey I really appreciate all the hard work that you put into your videos this is super cool and I really like it this kind of content is what keeps me alive and fascinated and interested in computer hardware thank you for continuing to create content in these trying times and I appreciate your time and effort I have a GTX 680 SOC card it's a rare variant of the card that I use in my system since my 980 TI died I'd be willing to let you borrow it to make a video out of if you'd like although you probably have to clean it and maybe apply some new thermal paste to get some better thermal results than I do I'm also working on getting my hands on a Intel Larrabee card that has video drivers if you're interested in that
I remember reading an article back when the 300 series were "announced" for release and from memory they were released to fit in with OEM christmas releases. Fermi was heavily delayed until March/April and OEMs wanted something to make it look to the uneducated buyer that they were getting an upgrade from "old" tech
That is an issue with OEM in general. They need "updated" spec even just in name only every year. But hardware provider like nvidia or AMD can't realistically coming out with new architecture every year.
This is an awesome informative video. Excellent work, I'm glad to be a subscriber!
Huh... I didn't thing the GTX series went back past 500 series.
Well. This man hath proved me wrong!
Great video!
I have gtx260
There was even gtx 9800
@@spacy9571 weren't there 7000 series with gtx naming?
@@spacy9571 apparently there's 7800gtx
@@TR2000LT it was but not in ordinary way, it was 7800gtx not gtx 7800
You could probably oc this card a bit because 40c is amazing. My gt 740 i had at +300 on core because it ran cool enough.
the mac edition gt330 has been starting to pop up more and more often on amazon in recent times for very reasonable prices. none up at the moment, but keep it in mind since i know you are a collector like me. last one i saw was only around 12 bucks or so, and yeah it's not a great card or anything, but it's unique and pretty rare and a great piece.
Source Engine 2 has been updated several times in order to support modern features and improve image quality. Therefore games based on this engine (like HL2) run considerably worse than a few years ago.
Looking at videos like this and reading the comments to videos like this really makes me realize how time has flown since I started watching tech youtubers.
Back in late 2016 when I started watching this crap (no pun intended :D), People were often reviewing cards like the HD5000/6000 as solid used options as well as the HD 7000 series where the term Fine-Wine was just becoming popular.
Nvidia Pascal was also the new big thing, with Polaris from AMD Pushing good competition up until the awful vega was released.
Now games post 2020 have changed so quickly that something from Pascal/Polaris is just getting by unless you had a 1080ti.
of course games did not really evolve as much as a lot of youtubers try to make it sound. Rather our preferences and standards have increased. 1080P is the absolute minimum resolution many want to use these days. High Refresh Rate is no longer a luxury, but rather a means of staying competitive.
It truly felt like for many years we were stuck in a spot where games were not evolving with the exception of Doom 2016/Doom Eternal, but now we are finally seeing some momentum in that front as well.
Lets just hope prices become to stabilize though. Because I remember not even in the too distance past where I could build a solid middle of the road gaming pc for 500-600$, but now 1000$ quite quickly has become the new norm.
PC Partner video cards is now known as Zotac. They have been around for as long as MSI has been making motherboards and it might surprise everyone to know that PC Partner has been making educational game toys for toddlers since the early 90's. You might even have played with some of their battery powered toys when you were young
People only remember the MacBook, but there were other laptops like the Alienware M11x from 2010, which had a GT 335M
What I don't understand is that the GT220 wasn't sub planted in performance until the GT620, the gt320 was OEM discounting that, the GT420 and GT520 were both slower than the GT220. The low end market of Nvidia GPUs in that era made no sense.
You are the Indiana Jones of hardware.
I remember having a GTS 240 and struggling to run SC2 at 1280x1024. Bought it for $30 on ebay back in 2011. I think I was able to bump up the textures to high with minimal fps loss due to it having more vram than the 9800GT (1GB GDDR3 vs 512MB GDDR3), but running that game with a phenom II x3 I was able to stream sc2 1v1s somehow back in the justin tv days (on stolen wi-fi at that lol). It's crazy that card was running a 256-bit bus. ah I miss the days of finding old pcs on the side of the road, or at a dumpster and hoping it had some better, working parts in it to upgrade my pc. Grabbing old hard drives so I could install more than 2 games at a time was cool as I used to repair game consoles back in the '09-'11 time period, so I always had at least a couple of (dying) 20gb HDDs available to install XP, and use the second for SC2 (pre-expansions and pre-DRM). anyway, good nostalgia trip here. Thanks for testing out this IGP for us
I've had a laptop with a GTX310m. The experience compared to this one is overall the same. The only real difference is that you had somewhat better GTA5 performance. The GTX310m is an interesting GPU though, since it's one of Nvidia's first Optimus cards. As a result it doesn't really utilize the technology well and I've had a horrible experience with it. Still, it's what I used for over 10 years.
I'm still using that card lol. What laptop was it?
I remember having an geforce (gt) 310m in my Samsung r530 back in the days
i daily use a samsung r580!
current config is: 4gb ram
i5 M530 or something like that
gt 330m
@@jack8407 oouuuhhh, i remember this laptop ,it was super fast back in the days, but now i think that laptop could struggle with modern tasks. I hope you get a faster machine someday :) .
@@dollarnator7756 yeah it doesnt really like modern games... but hey, atleast i can watch videos on it!
@@jack8407 hmm at least something :) but i think Minecraft will run, or not?
@@dollarnator7756 minecraft runs around 55-60 fps on average with dips at 10 or so
I'm glad that i can watch your videos about all of this old stuff!
I love content like this! Thank you! :)
Wow how’d you actually get hold of one, there were only like 1000 ever made
Luck.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Now get a card with only 12 ever made and you're in business.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial lol just like all cards nowadays I guess
@@classic_jam honestly that would be easier than getting an rtx 3090
@@liger7275 The snow helps keep the card cold
My guess for the long driver support would be, because these were made for OEMs like Apple. Apple is famous for having long support for their devices and this was likely one of the reasons nvidia kept the driver updates for these. Contracts and all that jazz.
Apple is famous for having NO support for their devices. Fixed :)
@@madb132Huh? What? Since when?
Apple HARDWARE support is shit.
Apple SOFTWARE support is great. The fact that an iPad Air 2 (A8) runs iPadOS 15, and the 5S (A7) got iOS 12 is a fact of that. In fact, most iDevices get 5-6 years of support.
However Android devices get at most 2-3 years of support.
It’s a repair problem, not a software problem
Yeah, it's basically going out and seeing a GT 1030 and a GTX 1050 Ti without knowing anything but price.
I'd just say GMA graphics would even fair better, damn.
14:30, hey that's me!
11:14 Kinda surprising considering I used to run GMod just fine on a 7900GTX at like 1600x1200...although aside the much smaller vRam budget, that card is probably better than this...somewhat. I don't actually know. Then again I even played it on an old single core Celeron laptop with some godawful ATI graphics solution
Seems like a thing to put a copper cooler on for passive, get the ram to 2ghz, and use for nvidia game stream / in home streaming / getting a few for compute in roosha
I once got 10x GTX 340 in an untested job lot auction I think it was in Batley West Yorks but they only had 512mb RAM and obscure Dell part numbers. In that lot there was 20x Palit lopro GT 430, 6x PNY GT 630 1gb, 10x 1gb and 8x 2gb ASUS DU passive GT 630 and about 20 mixed brand GTX 550s and 460s for £360 Only 1 ASUS GTX 550 was not working (my mum still has an EVGA GTX 460 SSC 1gb in her ryzen 1600AF machine just for display out from that bundle) I went through a phase 3 to 4 year ago, of buying cheap celeron/C2D optiplex 330's and 390's xeon modding them with 4core e5040-e5050 xeons with a 430 or 630 in them for £40 - £50 a pop or a bit more for SSD's etc for cheapy units, kids playing CSGO etc, and a bunch of fallout 3-NV fans and a couple went to retro arch cab builds. Not making money on them just like shed time you know. I never bothered with those 340s with only 512mb, I think one of my kids swapped them for something dubstep related before I got chance to play with one.
2:20 the reason apple sell 'mac versions' of video cards is the firmware. The Mac Pro used an EFI BIOS before most video cards supported it so it requires a special firmware to output the video for the boot screen. However, as long as the non-apple cards driver is installed, the card will work fine, just with no initial boot screen.
I have a Mac Pro 5,1 (2012) and have to have a replacement bootloader to load a generic UEFI GOP driver after the BIOS in order to see the boot screen on my standard GTX 1070 (or get a company to flash the firmware to enable the Apple EFI video output. Not sure if this has changed in the later model Pros.
I just recently got a GT 330, and gonna buy another one soon, there are multiplle versions of it, GP215 chip based and possibly the last G92b cards released, unfortuntely the one I have is GP215 based, its not a bad little card either, it can hold its own in a lot of games
I've a GT 320 actually (not as my main computer), and the things is, for it's age, it's not so bad, GT 610 is far less powerfull than it. I was using this gpu to do virtualisation stuff (gpu-passtrough) but it's sad that's a OEM card, and .. a pretty dumb card. No drivers ? Fan speed at max (5000 RPM)
My grandpa had a GT 315 in his PC (Acer Aspire from 2010)
I've been shipped a batch of 550s from China about 10 years ago that had no valid device ID in any Nvidia driver. I had to fix bootstrap resistors on them to give them proper device IDs. As for everything that exists out there you can find in Nvidia driver INFs.
3:03 that original Xbox video connector just chillin there
man i still remember when you had under a thousand subs good content my man
4:11 i'd never expect that indonesian marketplace can be found on the foreign web
It's called World Wide Web for a reason.
Latest RandomGamingInHd reminded me of this video. Had to come back to rewatch it
Just saw the video.
That csgo gameplay seems so familiar... I Have a gt 315
YOU FIXED THE INTRO!!! YAY
I wonder if it would be easier picking one of these up than picking up a 3080 at retail.
what happened to the Cube PC video? I didn't get a chance to watch it :(
Yeah I was wondering the same, only got to watch the first minute or so. Maybe something in it got copyright claimed?
It will be back at some point soon.
Lovely! :) 300p ultra low on GTA 5, how wonderful ;)
I was playing GTAV on an overclocked GT 330m on a sony vaio laptop at way over 30fps without any resolution scaling at 800x600, just the shadows turned off. I did have to edit the newer graphics drivers to add my device id's and then manually install them for it to work though.
GTA V on the GTX 340 looks like the PS3 version
Its so strange seeing a lacking 300 series range then the huge punch that fermi was at the time, even compared to the higher end GTX 200 series, the same can be said for the 800 series and the punch that the 900 series gave to nvidia against AMD, i wonder if any 800 series prototype desktop GPUs were ever made since it was mainly notebooks that got chips like the 860m.
Because this thing most often are made to satisfy certain OEM only. You can even said the reasoning by OEM are quite dumb. But it is what it is.
Nice video as always. Although I'm not really sure what you mean about old AMD cards not having good driver support. I have more old AMD cards (10+ years) that are supported than Nvidia. It is however hit and miss for both companies but have not noticed one company distancing itself that more than a slight nod to AMD. Maybe I just got lucky!
Pretty much any GCN Card has amazing driver support albeit some less than stellar release often at the start of the year.
AMDs Terascale is abandoned though, and was left in a fairly sorry state compared to Nvidias Fermi and Tesla. That’s the main issue people have.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Ah got it now. Sorry I did not hear correctly. I thought that you were speaking of old cards in general not about a specific generation or two. Thank for the clarification.
9 months later but still. its a really bad time to have an hd 6000 series pcs which i am unfortunate to have. a laptop with an e300 apu and an hd 6450 gpu on my pentium 4 pc. its awful, specially on linux as the drivers are messy there.
at least theyre better than the gt 210 i also have so theres that
i subbed just because youre the only person ive ever seen benchmark minecraft, Thank you
You like Volvo 850's? A man of culture I see.
I remember getting a GT210 with 1gb because of a special offer, putting it a dollar cheaper than the 512MB card. It was amazing. it ran even GTAIV at a reasonable FPS, every other card i tried after that didn't give me 30 FPS on lowest settings, until i got a 980Ti - that one brought the frames back where they should be. And this is why console ports are such garbage lol
I remember my GT 210 and trying to run Surgeon Simulator on it... it worked, but it wasn't very nice. :)
So, the 300 series is a 200 one with gddr5? Cool!
I guess the reason why NVIDIA didn't bother on releasing this GPU was because of the GDDR5 memory. I imagine they thought GDDR5 would be too fast for a graphics card like the GTX 340 so they scrapped it. The GT 310 had DDR2 memory so jumping from DDR2 straight to GDDR5 was a huge leap and not optimized for the graphics card performance. This is just my guess though.
fun fact there's no GT 210 either, it's just the 210, it was so bad it didn't even fall into the GT catrgoty, it was just GeForce 210
I'm pretty sure the chinese gpu i bought last year was based on that board. It looked Identical. I was never able to get to post however so i sold it for parts.
Another fine addition I must add to my collection >:)
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Your videos are awesome man
That thermal paste looks like straight chocolate syrup......amazing
The lighting board at my work has a GTX 310 in it.
When I first looked at this card, my first though was: "What is this filthy creature?"
I might remember incorrectly but wasnt there a GTS 350 1024MB OEM card? I think it was just a rebrand of the GTS 250.
Edit: I remember correctly now. Nvidia released both a 100 series and 300 series as OEM only. The 100 series had a GTS 150 1024MB which was basicly a rebranded 8800/9800.
Nvidia also released the 800 series as OEM only, Mobile only. The 800 series had rebranded fermi cards at the low tier and new maxwell for midrange and rebranded kepler for high end. 800 series was really weird.
Can you do a review on the GT315M?
Given the gt 240 ddr5 was about as fast as a 9800gt, I am REALLY surprised that the gtx 340 doesn't run GTA 5 better. You can play GTA 5 on a 9800gt at 720p low at at around 30fps.
I would be interested in how much more it can be pushed on clocks with a little bit more voltage.
I still use a GT 210 as a testing card. Only reason I see to go back to such bad cards, not external power required.
Considering the Xbox 360 ran GTAV at 20-25fps (or lower, it felt like), this little card is doing a good job.
Weren't console versions of gta v wayy more optimized tho?(and looked better)
But yeah it's doing fine oddly enough
I had a 330M in a Toshiba Satellite A660 laptop. It used to overheat a lot especially since it had an i7 onboard. I was quite delighted when nouveau had full support for the card since I could finally ditch the unwieldy proprietary nVidia driver. All in all, the laptop got irradiated at some point in its life and it's really unreliable since then. RIP.
( 15:37 )aye that gpu was made on my b-day lol
I really recommend turning off shadows in GTA V when testing weak cards, atleast as a separate demonstration.
BudgetBuilds!!!! I have a really rare card i can tell you it exists but I won't sell it ,so in case you want to buy it you have to hunt because its nowhere on the internet to buy when I checked it
Its R9 280X V2
And V2 version is one of the biggest card i've ever seen
It is very long, very wide and 3slot.
And it is with whole casing and cooler made of metal.
Weight to much for not reinforced pciex16 (i felt like i almost killed my reinforced pcie while installing it)
It is really beefy and if you think normal R9 280X drink power af. Then this mofuker needs 2x 8pin power
Damn unknown card! Great find!
Glad the snow kept it cool👍👍
Another banger video with the budget squad
This was actually really interesting!
The 300 series was hated by many of the Mac users unfortunate enough to get one in their system. I remember reading that they killed compatibility with many Mac games.
Probably the disagreement issue between nvidia and apple in regards to drivers.
the 570 had 1.25gb memory so thats a lot for so many years earlier. Not really sure what could make use of it back tho
I had this card in my Medion PC from Aldi.