Nvidia's Most Hated Card - The FX5200 Story

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @amused7928
    @amused7928 4 года назад +709

    "Terrible piece of silicon" are you sure they didn't used recycled milk bottles

    • @amused7928
      @amused7928 4 года назад +4

      @@nicolausteslaus Remember when this was a mediocre joke about a budget graphics processing device from a decade ago

    • @stephenroberts7554
      @stephenroberts7554 9 месяцев назад +1

      Well u know this is a bad graphics card when they made a game bundle and the game included couldn't hardly even run my 5200ultra came with splinter cell and it ran it at about 10fps what a POS!! And I tried my best to get a refund and spend my 150$ on something better

  • @GRBtutorials
    @GRBtutorials 4 года назад +274

    You know a card is beyond terrible when it's worse than the built-in graphics it's supposed to replace...

    • @PearComputingDevices
      @PearComputingDevices 2 года назад

      and often times it was..

    • @LDRAGONFLYL
      @LDRAGONFLYL 2 года назад +3

      nope it was the only upgrade i could get with my 82845g igpu back then😂

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre Год назад +5

      Bullshit.
      I had Intel extreme integrated graphics on my HP desktops that could barely run a browser back in 2007.
      I upgraded to Chaintech fx5200 256mb in the pci slot & it was kick ass compared to the integrated garbage.

    • @shinya1215
      @shinya1215 7 месяцев назад +2

      Backthen iGPU was never powerful, especially this thing was in Pentium-4 era. Those iGPU inside north bridge chip are around SIS-300~Radeon 7000 level of preformance and it's no where near this FX5200.

  • @SlowSpyder
    @SlowSpyder 4 года назад +826

    I remember when an old boss of mine "upgraded" from a Ti4600 to a FX5200. I told him that was a step backwards, he was like, "the number is bigger, it has to be faster..."

    • @FyreKaiNi
      @FyreKaiNi 4 года назад +154

      I remember when I "upgraded" from a 1GB 9800GT to a 2GB GT520 for Battlefield 3, back when I was in Middle school and didn't know much about PCs. And today all I can think of is why the fuck did that card have 2GB of Vram, when it caps out far before my old ass 1GB 9800GT

    • @smogdanoff7053
      @smogdanoff7053 4 года назад +41

      Kohaku Jesus christ Bf3s graphics were sooooo good, they even hold up to todays standards

    • @eugenb9017
      @eugenb9017 4 года назад +33

      Even going from GF3 Ti200 (much slower than Ti4600, about half it's speed) to FX5600 (quite faster than FX5200) was a downgrade in a lot of games. Going from Ti4600 to FX5200? That was a *huge* downgrade. But I find it hard to believe someone did that, because if you owned a Ti4600 means you had the money and you were buying the fastest card. Someone who had Ti4600 back then would step up to FX5800 Ultra or FX 5900 or 5950 Ultra.

    • @GhoskyIsBack
      @GhoskyIsBack 4 года назад +28

      On the other hand, not too long ago I went from a GT 8800 to a GTX 1050 Ti, massive, much needed leap

    • @smogdanoff7053
      @smogdanoff7053 4 года назад +19

      Joederbo *DON’T RUIN THE NOSTALGIA REEE*

  • @StarFury2
    @StarFury2 4 года назад +96

    I can relate to this video, especially "buying the FX5200 and finding if it's a good one when you get back home" part - I've spent my hard teenage savings on crappy 64-Bit version of 5200 that came in a super shiny box, but couldn't run anything decently. Trauma for life.

    • @homelessEh
      @homelessEh Год назад +5

      i almost did the samething with the 6200 but i returned it and got a radeon 9600 at a later date.. suffered with voodoo2 and s3 virge a bit longer radeon 9600 was great eventually gave way to a ati x1650 and never looked back at spending on nvidia. i'll take it from the trash but i aint payin for nvidia stuff still to this day. intel also ended up in the same boat.. i wont pay for it but i'll take it from the trash lol

    • @nicholas-k8j
      @nicholas-k8j 5 месяцев назад +1

      it was terrible it ran company of heroes and world of conflict at 5 FPS ... i couldnt even run lord of the rings battle of middle earth 2 even good ... i think you could run warcraft 3 and thats it

  • @vibeuncheck9212
    @vibeuncheck9212 4 года назад +729

    GT 210 : Finally, a worthy opponent

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 4 года назад +23

      geforce MX420 on first day, when unsuspected user bought geforce 4 generation card thinking he will have new generation 4 card faster than his geforce 2: Hold my beer. (happened to me, with MX440 actually, I was going from voodoo2, could get geforce 4 4200 by 50$ more, and +50% performance, but didn't know, thought everything from 4th generation will be good)

    • @rangerdanger1922
      @rangerdanger1922 4 года назад +12

      radeonhd5450: *blocks your path*

    • @h2oaddict61
      @h2oaddict61 4 года назад +6

      @@rangerdanger1922 it's an excellent card to run extra monitors on, perfectly stable and consumes very little power.

    • @rangerdanger1922
      @rangerdanger1922 4 года назад +2

      @@h2oaddict61 truuee but thats its only use

    • @h2oaddict61
      @h2oaddict61 4 года назад +1

      @Dr ROLFCOPTER! Didn't mention Nvidia

  • @amberselectronics
    @amberselectronics 4 года назад +85

    So I actually have a pile of the PCI version of these, and they're fantastic for one thing - windows 98 support in computers with no AGP slot. They're one of the fastest PCI cards that still has driver support for 98 :)

    • @wendellsawyer4386
      @wendellsawyer4386 2 года назад +2

      I had one in my "toolbox" at one time. It was great for troubleshooting.

    • @MsHojat
      @MsHojat 2 года назад +3

      I had a Radeon 7000 PCI. Probably not nearly as good as an FX 5200

    • @soundspark
      @soundspark 2 года назад +9

      There's actually a PCI version of the less crippled 6200.

    • @randomguydoes2901
      @randomguydoes2901 Год назад +2

      yep my friends celeron 2.8 ghz had to use one of these.
      Bought it off him for €30 and paired it with my celeron 333, which had no AGP. 384mb ram. I ran XP on that thing quite well.

    • @mbwoods2001
      @mbwoods2001 8 месяцев назад

      Trying to find a decent pci card, its a bloody minefield on ebay with too many clueless idiots incorrectly listing pci instead of pci-express!!!🤬

  • @benhinton5475
    @benhinton5475 4 года назад +187

    hmmmm nvidia and memory bandwidth starving..... where have we seen that repeated *stares at gt 1030*

    • @borsalino5539
      @borsalino5539 4 года назад +15

      The gt 1030, used as mx150 and mx250 in laptops are very efficient. You can play neary every game with that card under ~30w.

    • @carlouis1
      @carlouis1 4 года назад +57

      That and the naming fiasco that still goes on to this day
      *intensely stares at the GT 1030 DDR4*

    • @Gajaczek93
      @Gajaczek93 4 года назад +13

      tbh 1030 is not that bad for very budget setups that consist of upgrading OEM system with core i processor and you don't need to upgrade PSU for that. It can easily run all popular esport titles.

    • @benhinton5475
      @benhinton5475 4 года назад +15

      @@Gajaczek93 nah i dont mean it like that, they released 2 versions.... the ddr4 version being almost 2x as slow as the regular card

    • @Nick-ue7iw
      @Nick-ue7iw 4 года назад +2

      @@borsalino5539 What is your point? Being energy efficient does not mean it isnt memory bandwidth starved. And dont even start of the DDR4 model.

  • @lacho236
    @lacho236 4 года назад +48

    Damn, the FX5200 can barely run Morrowind and then you have 11 year old me playing Oblivion on it. Yes, it was terrible.

    • @rundownaxe
      @rundownaxe 3 года назад

      Hey man! I'm right there with you! I played Morrowind, C&C Generals, early WoW and an f1 2004 mos.
      It sucked. Imagine, I had that paired with a 2.4ghz prescott p4. One of the few things I was glad to replace after a house fire.

    • @d4t6ix
      @d4t6ix 3 года назад +3

      I had a Palit FX 5200 Ultra. As a kid i was happy to simply have the games running. Finished Morrowind, Far Cry 1, FEAR and many other games on it, so it brings me nice memories.
      When Oblivion got out i upgraded to a 6600.

    • @elhefe6029
      @elhefe6029 3 года назад

      Bruh that's so funny cuz I literally bought this to play oblivion (it couldn't run it out of the box) I had to lower the graphics past the lowest settings with mods.
      I was a very happy camper when I upgraded to a new rig I built at 12
      Nforce 780i Mobo
      8gb ddr2 ram.
      Started with gtx 9800+ ended the rig with two gtx 260 core 216
      Started with e8400 core 2 duo. Ended with q8300 core2quad.
      1k psu.

    • @MarcABrown-tt1fp
      @MarcABrown-tt1fp 8 месяцев назад

      Wow So this card is actually worse than a Via chipset iGPU. HAHAHAHAHA! 🤣

  • @night5481
    @night5481 4 года назад +111

    "Display adapter"

  • @PearComputingDevices
    @PearComputingDevices 4 года назад +198

    Well, don't forget Apple found a way to help Nvidia get rid of their FX5200 stock by shipping them as standard in many models of their Power Mac G5 towers.

    • @DJdoppIer
      @DJdoppIer 4 года назад +25

      Yep, I had one of those in my G5, which I immediately replaced with a Radeon 9800XT, and I took great pleasure in throwing the FX5200 in the firepit.

    • @Brukner841
      @Brukner841 3 года назад +8

      @@DJdoppIer worked well for DAWs tho, the G5 was smoldering hot, how did u manage it with that monster XT?

    • @DJdoppIer
      @DJdoppIer 3 года назад +6

      @@Brukner841 Never had an issue with the heatsink after I applied fresh thermal paste to it. However I did add some custom mini aluminum heatsinks to each of the VRAM modules, as those tended to get rather hot, and the original card didn't have any thermal protection on them.

    • @iancalandro8180
      @iancalandro8180 2 года назад +6

      That explains a lot. I have a Powermac G5 with an FX 5200 in it. Didn't think about it that much until now.

    • @HVDynamo
      @HVDynamo 2 года назад +4

      I had ordered a G5 way back then too. That was one upgrade I did straight from apple, I ordered it with a Radeon 9600 (can't remember if it was the XT or not).

  • @TheWilldrick
    @TheWilldrick 4 года назад +111

    15:04 FX5200 shedding a single tear while being dissed

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 года назад +9

      It's just like that meme with the cartoon bear on the ice cream carton that looks like it's sweating, lol

    • @DsiPro1000
      @DsiPro1000 4 месяца назад

      Too shit to cry any more

  • @OneBiker98
    @OneBiker98 3 года назад +14

    Three years ago a friend of mine moved to another city and left me an empty PC case and a box full of old PC parts. I managed to build a retro PC from like 2003-2004. A Pentium 4 @ 3.2GHz (with HyperThreading), 1GB DDR1 RAM, a 60GB HDD (not even a SATA) and the box inside had a FX5200 with 128MB of VRAM. I installed Windows XP on it and since I already knew that the FX5200 was terrible I wanted to see by myself so I tested a few games on it.
    GTA SA even on lowest settings was terrible. Half Life 1 wasn't much better either, Medal of Honor Allied Assault runned almost decent for reason but when lots of enemies were in sight or explosions went off the framerate would shit itself. NFS Underground 1 topped at about 20FPS on lowest settings. The heatsink was so hot I thought it was going to explode or something. While the CPU for these games was good, the FX made a huge bottleneck. Hell, even my old Lenovo laptop from 2007 with a GM45 chipset GPU did better than this.
    It's OK for very basic things, but anything beyond a bunch of polygons on screen is too much for it.

  • @Russell970
    @Russell970 4 года назад +377

    Actually I had one 14 years ago and I loved it because it could play NFS 2002-2005 games, GTA Vice City, Counter-Strike...etc
    Before it I had a GeForce2 MX200 which is way worse lol
    Of course I was a kid and I didn't know anything about PCs hahaha
    Love the video btw ♥

    • @SouthPlanObservation
      @SouthPlanObservation 4 года назад +25

      Same here, I actually could play all the games I needed back then. CS 1.6, Warcraft 3, NFS underground.

    • @sobolanul96
      @sobolanul96 4 года назад +21

      My FX5200 blew up while playing RedAlert3. Caps popped like popcorn when the fan stopped working. I replaced them and still have the thing working in an old pc. It was my first graphics card.

    • @lucasward9506
      @lucasward9506 4 года назад +12

      The fx 5200 is such a meme that its hard to dislike.

    • @Russell970
      @Russell970 4 года назад +2

      @@SouthPlanObservation so its not that bad after all xD

    • @Russell970
      @Russell970 4 года назад

      @@sobolanul96 whoa really? Mine got broken by me overclocking it to the DOOM! lmao my fault it was.

  • @PostingCringeOnMain
    @PostingCringeOnMain 4 года назад +34

    I had one of these :( all I can say is, owning one really made the upgrade to the 6600GT seem so, so, sweet

    • @karamalinumberone7478
      @karamalinumberone7478 2 года назад

      that GPU is a beast compare to this

    • @theunbeliever603
      @theunbeliever603 2 года назад

      Me too.

    • @onyachamp
      @onyachamp 2 года назад

      Hahaha I went from the tnt2 to the 6600gt.
      Eventually sli'd that card before upgrading to a 7950gt and then 7950gx2.

    • @halfbakedproductions7887
      @halfbakedproductions7887 2 года назад +1

      Me too. The 6600GT felt like a 3080 compared to this crap pile.
      Imagine being able to play Battlefield 2 at 100FPS and it actually looked decent?

  • @phantomeniasll92
    @phantomeniasll92 4 года назад +59

    The moment he shorts the startup pins with a usb stick really got me

    • @JohnSmith-iu8cj
      @JohnSmith-iu8cj 5 месяцев назад +1

      I do that when there’s no screwdriver around 😂

  • @hyperstimmed
    @hyperstimmed 4 года назад +14

    The reason I hate the FX 5200, is because mine had exploding capacitors at stock settings

  • @khmerkandal121
    @khmerkandal121 4 года назад +127

    Imagine a fake gt 210. It would be THAT.

    • @dezeekat
      @dezeekat 4 года назад +6

      GT210 IS 7 GENERATIONS NEWER BUT STILL IS BOTTOM OF GT2XX SERIES SO YEA IT'S KINDA TRASH ANYHOW

    • @spencerglew8162
      @spencerglew8162 4 года назад +13

      @@dezeekat WHEN DID I ASK

    • @sophustranquillitastv4468
      @sophustranquillitastv4468 4 года назад +11

      It just 5 generations away. After GeForce FX they have GeForce 6-series, 7-series, 8-series, 9-series, and then 200-series. Those GeForce PCX are just GeForce FX in PCI-Express interface, and GeForce 100-series are OEM card which had almost no difference from GeForce 9-series, so they can't be considered as difference generation.

    • @gynaecide4382
      @gynaecide4382 4 года назад

      @waffeltek hello

    • @StarFury2
      @StarFury2 4 года назад +4

      The problem with 5200 was not that is slow, as all cards eventually get potato slow as software develops.
      The real issue was that it's marketing and selling was downright a scam! Marketing was extreme, but boxes never told you what version you were buying.

  • @jamesburke2759
    @jamesburke2759 4 года назад +11

    I actually had 2 good experiences with this card. My Acer laptop had a mobile version which played need for speed underground 2 well and even up to cod 4, the pc version I had was a PCI one that was all i could get for my p4 slim system. gave me many happy years of gaming and introduced me to fps online gaming.

  • @jhj22
    @jhj22 4 года назад +78

    If you read this: I appreciate the effort you had put into this video. I also have a slow internet access and I also try to make the best out of it.

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 года назад +31

      0.2mbps masterrace

    • @jhj22
      @jhj22 4 года назад +6

      @@BudgetBuildsOfficial Side note...Also I want to let you know, that according to my recent tests: RUclips finally ditched AAC in favour of Opus!

    • @coochie8670
      @coochie8670 4 года назад +2

      @@BudgetBuildsOfficial Just curious, but why do you have such abysmal speeds? I live in the middle of nowhere and have 150mbps/15mbps, just surprising to me.

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 года назад +9

      @@coochie8670: a tree has knocked down my line,

    • @gp3328
      @gp3328 4 года назад +1

      @@BudgetBuildsOfficial and now, he must use his data on the 1g network running off a DynaTAC.

  • @Autunite
    @Autunite 2 года назад +2

    9:10 just reminded me that my first card was actually a Matrox Millenium P750.. It hit straight home when you mentioned that "at least all the textures are there". I went from that to an FX 5200, and it was such an upgrade. One of the first games that I booted up was Far Cry since I couldn't wait to play it with proper textures, and I was amazed how good it looked.
    This was around 2008-2009 I believe. My family couldn't afford a new computer and I was 11-12 years old, so I got an old one from one of my friends which had a grandfather that did CAD work and changed out his PC. Pentium 4 2,8GHz, 1GB DDR RAM, Matrox P750 and afterwards a FX 5200.
    I've been years behind on technology ever since, as I've gotten used to not having the newest stuff. Only exception was when I upgraded my i5-3470 (2013) to an i7-8700K back in 2018, and got a Titan X (2015) at the same time. Those are going to last me to 2026 for sure.

  • @Russell970
    @Russell970 4 года назад +40

    Also there are different variants of the FX 5200
    and they are:
    *FX 5200 LE (The worst variant)*
    •128 MB
    DDR 64-bit
    •NV34 A2
    •4 ROPs / 4 TMUs / 4 Pixel Shaders
    •GPU Clock
    250 MHz
    •Memory Clock
    166 MHz
    332 MHz effective
    *FX 5200*
    •128 MB
    DDR
    128-bit
    •NV34 A2
    •4 ROPs / 4 TMUs / 4 Pixel Shaders
    •GPU Clock
    250MHz
    •Memory Clock
    200MHz
    400MHz effective
    *FX 5200 Ultra*
    •256 MB
    DDR
    128-bit
    •NV34 A2
    •4 ROPs / 4 TMUs / 4 Pixel Shaders
    •GPU Clock
    325 MHz
    •Memory Clock
    325 MHz
    650 MHz effective

    • @alertol
      @alertol 4 года назад +2

      There was none Ultra one with 256megs, at 266MHz (that was something, card for BDSM kind of people)

    • @Adam130694
      @Adam130694 4 года назад

      I had 64 bit version, it played GTA:SA good, switched from 9200SE (another cut-off), ATi drivers at that time were terrible.

  • @trailsdetails4061
    @trailsdetails4061 4 года назад +5

    When I was a teenager, I had this paired with an otherwise pretty decent pentium 4 2.8ghz, a decent motherboard and RAM. It was the first pc I ever built myself and me and my dad picked the parts. We both didn't know a lot about pc hardware but it was super fun building our own system. After a while though I started to get horrific performance in games, and I always thought it was because the games were just getting extremely demanding. little did I know, it was actually this PoS holding back the PC. It was years later until I figured that out

  • @MarshallRawR
    @MarshallRawR 4 года назад +34

    It's red so it must be pretty fast

  • @Titanicus2
    @Titanicus2 4 года назад +9

    I still cry thinking about the money I spent on this card way back when.

  • @AllanSavolainen
    @AllanSavolainen 4 года назад +25

    I got burned with this one, upgraded my previous NVidia to this and was appalled as framerates plummeted with this new card.

  • @AronHallan
    @AronHallan 2 года назад +4

    It came in my first pre built, allowed me to play NFS Underground, COD, Counter strike, FIFA, Vice City and, San Andreas and many more.

  • @ReadySelectStart
    @ReadySelectStart 4 года назад +67

    I recently got a FX 5200 for a DOS build. They have great DOS compatibility.

    • @dustarma
      @dustarma 4 года назад +4

      Wouldn't something like a 6800 Ultra or 7800 be better?

    • @alexdhall
      @alexdhall 4 года назад +5

      Huh I guess the card does have a use then. The other use would be for a....retro server I guess....

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu 4 года назад +8

      @@dustarma Even if those things worked fine with DOS, it's like recommending to use excavator to plant some flowers.

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 4 года назад +1

      Phil's Computer Lab often promotes these cards. Everything else he recommends increases eBay prices but there are so many of these and they're so undesirable otherwise that they remain under the radar.

    • @-fuzzy-7125
      @-fuzzy-7125 4 года назад +3

      @@alexdhall They make for a fantastic Win 9x option as well, they were so awful at launch and not worth it at all. But high production for OEs and a bad rep makes them very inexpensive.

  • @diegoperazzo9152
    @diegoperazzo9152 4 года назад +9

    I had an ati 9600pro card at the time, upgrading from a tnt2 if I recall. Great card that Radeon, excellent value. I dodged a bullet with nvidia that year.

  • @DoomGuy9001-MK4
    @DoomGuy9001-MK4 4 года назад +104

    I remember the FX5200, a Advent PC world computer had it in, could not even play half life 2 at the lowest settings.

    • @MasticinaAkicta
      @MasticinaAkicta 4 года назад +6

      Yup, nvidia trying to get Valve to program for its 16/32bits half path didn't work out long term so it was kicked down to dx8. And sadly the fx 5200 sucked at dx8 too!

    • @thedungeondelver
      @thedungeondelver 4 года назад +7

      P4 (2.0ghz), 512mb RAM and a 5200 - ran HL2 on the 5200 (128mb) with low details, I was surprised by how well the engine scaled to what I had. It worked.

    • @airmicrobe
      @airmicrobe 4 года назад

      Gold source hl2 runs even in tnt card I remember...

    • @KinoKonformist
      @KinoKonformist 4 года назад +2

      I beat HL2 and even Episode 1 on FX5200)

    • @zackakai5173
      @zackakai5173 4 года назад +3

      What? I had an FX5200 in my old Dell I got back in like 2004 and it ran HL2 just fine on medium-ish settings (granted it was at 1024x768 resolution, but hey it was like 2006 and that wasn't that unusual).

  • @thelastvanguard6529
    @thelastvanguard6529 4 года назад +26

    Hilarious thing is I remember my MSI 5200 coming with a copy of Morrowind.

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 3 года назад +1

      It was completly ok to play morrowind.

    • @Mihkellt
      @Mihkellt 3 года назад

      It also had a demo CD that had like 10? or something demos on it.

  • @Stewcumber
    @Stewcumber 4 года назад +12

    And now these cards are actually getting slightly desirable due to their reasonable quality as a retro (Windows 98) gaming graphics card - old enough to do "table fog" (whatever that is), but very powerful compared to graphics cards that came out in 1999; powerful enough to run Glide wrappers.
    I had one in 2003 and remember playing COD2 on it! 800*600, DX7 mode, obviously :P

  • @arthurvin2937
    @arthurvin2937 3 года назад +5

    PCI version was actually a life saver in 2004 when Half-Life 2 came out and your MB didn't have AGP port, and you wanted to play DX8.1 and take a glimpse on DX9.0. This card is very nostalgic for me, it made me happy back then.

    • @Tome4kkkk
      @Tome4kkkk 2 года назад

      No AGP in 2004?! I had an AGP card in 2001. In Poland! :D

    • @arthurvin2937
      @arthurvin2937 2 года назад

      @@Tome4kkkk Not everyone had a rich parents :D. In my family we had to choose - either we have something to eat OR AGP motherboard

    • @Tome4kkkk
      @Tome4kkkk 2 года назад +1

      @@arthurvin2937 Dude, you're dramatizing a bit :) AGP were mainstream by 2002 and in 2004 they were hitting the low to mid tier motherboards. Not to mention you know squat about how my family provided a PC for me.

    • @arthurvin2937
      @arthurvin2937 2 года назад

      @@Tome4kkkk Dude, I had less than 100 bucks to spend on PC (including monitor and peripherals) in 2001 in Latvia. I was only 13 y.o. and my parents told me "this is best PC you'll ever have period". In 2004 I was collecting empty beer bottles for months to buy this FX5200.

  • @scott2100
    @scott2100 4 года назад +36

    I kind of get the feeling the FX name is cursed, even though the Athlon 64 FX was pretty good

    • @Midiatize
      @Midiatize 4 года назад +5

      No... 3dfx was great

    • @scott2100
      @scott2100 4 года назад +5

      @@Midiatize but what happened to Voodoo?

    • @tadeustad
      @tadeustad 4 года назад +9

      The fun thing is, Geforce FX series was designed by the engineers from 3dfx after Nvidia acquisition of them.

    • @armorgeddon
      @armorgeddon 4 года назад

      Wasn't FX just added to imply that while in reality it was way too early for that to be possible?

    • @Wahinies
      @Wahinies 4 года назад +1

      Bulldozer FX was tragic as well. Hopefully nothing will bear the name in the future...

  • @FiveOFox302
    @FiveOFox302 4 года назад +28

    My first “GPU” was the FX5200. It ran windows aero effects great!

    • @Tonyx.yt.
      @Tonyx.yt. 4 года назад

      my first one was the fx5700VE, ran windows 7 aereo great as well, just had only drivers for vista RC2, not proper w7, then after a while my old 775 motherboard died and i scrap the pc, but i keep the cpu p4 630 for his "affective value"

    • @eIucidate
      @eIucidate 2 года назад +1

      Lol, I was literally about to comment, "But will it run Vista"?

  • @santiagoibarra1137
    @santiagoibarra1137 4 года назад +50

    That was my very first GPU.. I couldn't play almost anything (not exagerating), BSoD's everywhere, drivers issues etc... Powered by XFX...
    PS: 4:14 there you are you son of a ..........

    • @adamgray1753
      @adamgray1753 4 года назад +7

      I think it was this card someone gave me when I was attending ATI in Dallas for Network Administration back in '05. I was so very excited because my graphics card for my main computer back then was two or so years older than the GeForce 5200. It was a 64MB variant with just a passive heatsink on it. Believe you me, I was so very desperate to play Doom 3 and some other games on it back then. Turned out the best FPS I could achieve on that card with Doom 3 was less than five frames per second. That was with the lowest possible settings. I managed to get maybe half way into the game before I lost my temper to the point of swearing off the game for over a year straight. I think the card finally crapped out on me with a permanent BSOD upon booting into XP Pro. Got a new graphics card. I think that was a GeForce 7600 GS. That card was almost immeasurably superior to the 5200 FX I previously had. I was able to get for the most part a stable 30 fps with Doom 3, but with most of the graphics toned down instead of off. Man... the GeForce 5200 FX brings back memories... and not a single one that just so happens to be positive unless if you count it's eventual demise to be a positive memory.

    • @MrOoh50
      @MrOoh50 4 года назад +5

      Oh god, someone listen my screams of help, I'm not the only one, that was my first gpu as well and I'm also in the Doom 3 5FPS squad.

  • @ValentinRad
    @ValentinRad 3 года назад +1

    I still remember when my friend got a fx5200 and could play Heroes 5 with REFLECTIONS (early 2000s ray tracing) and I had to settle for unsparkly poligons on my MX440

  • @bigpierogi
    @bigpierogi 4 года назад +172

    Every time there's something with fx in its name, its bad

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 года назад +81

      Original AMD FX was alright, but that was against the Pentium 4, which is a potato

    • @scellyyt
      @scellyyt 4 года назад +11

      😳

    • @R0V0lv0
      @R0V0lv0 4 года назад +39

      3dfx wasn’t bad back in the day...

    • @jongoodenough3162
      @jongoodenough3162 4 года назад +18

      still using my AMD FX 8350 here

    • @bigpierogi
      @bigpierogi 4 года назад +6

      @Z80 Doesnt a sandy bridge i5 beat the fx though?

  • @jaco_21
    @jaco_21 4 года назад +13

    I used to have thas card in the first pc I built when I was like 12 years old.
    It was shit but at least it run CS 1.6 and Gta san andreas

  • @Ziimbiian
    @Ziimbiian 4 года назад +9

    Didnt knew these were that bad. I used to play NFS Carbon and GTA SA just fine with it. I had a Pentium 4 at that time
    Now im using it for Windows 98 SE and, of course, overclocking.

  • @robinoldekamp4856
    @robinoldekamp4856 4 года назад +2

    Awesome video! I never would’ve known there were so many others had the same beef with this card. It was in my first computer (older hand me down by the time I got it). Seeing the OG Far Cry for the first time in so many years being played on the same card actually triggered a mini deja vu for me.
    I hoped throughout the video to see you cover GTA:SA, it was so much worse compared to Vice City. I recall completing most of the storyline on it. Can’t recommend that to anyone. 😅

  • @dollardealtech768
    @dollardealtech768 4 года назад +6

    I remember having this in my first computer and it was awful. I can't believe I had it for 7 years. But it can run Bejeweled 3 so I was happy.

  • @T_Burd_75
    @T_Burd_75 2 года назад +1

    The first PC I built in 2004 I installed an FX 5200 128 MB card on a PC Chips T12 Tidal Wave motherboard, running a Celeron Prescott core 2.93 GHz CPU, 512 MB DDR 3200 memory, and an 80 GB SATA hard drive. I didn't have a lot of money at the time, so this was all I could afford from Tiger Direct. The FX 5200 was the cheapest card I could buy that would support DirectX 9? 10? at the time. I played a lot of Second Life with this setup as well as some other games I can't recall at the moment. No complaints with this card, not like an MX 4000, at least.

  • @Cyberdeamon
    @Cyberdeamon 4 года назад +64

    I remember going from this to a 7600GT and was like "holy shit" lol,

    • @mikewigley9807
      @mikewigley9807 4 года назад

      I did the exact same upgrade, 7600GT was a good card.

    • @VGamingJunkieVT
      @VGamingJunkieVT 4 года назад +1

      Even going from this to an integrated 6200 was a huge leap forward. You mean, it's possible to have pixel shaders it supports that it DOESN'T suck major ass on?

    • @ChrisBlackTV
      @ChrisBlackTV 4 года назад +8

      I went from this atrocity to a 9800 GT. It was a bit like getting a lawnmower after 5 years of picking grass with your bare hands.

    • @jonathankeith524
      @jonathankeith524 3 года назад

      @@ChrisBlackTV I remember the 9800GT! Haha That was a beast of a card. I still have an nVidia GeForce FX5200 Ultra. I'd like to get an old 9800GT just for the nostalgia.

    • @ChrisBlackTV
      @ChrisBlackTV 3 года назад +3

      @@jonathankeith524 Damn right. I used to play the hell out of Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood, Portal, Left 4 Dead, CS:Source (although i much prefered 1.6) and all of the Half-Life 2 games on that thing. It was extremely good value back in 2009. Felt really good to own a 9800 series GeForce card 😄

  • @FullyBuffered
    @FullyBuffered 4 года назад

    Good going producing a video a week now! I luckily only one have had to use a FX5200. Maxxed out a P4 Dell Optiplex GX270 to run Windows 7 on it. Put in 2GB of DDR which made a ton of difference, but I really wanted to get Aero working. So I decided I might as well try the old FX5200. And lo and behold it actually ran Aero. Having said that, that is about the only good thing I have to say about it. The whole story around the different FX5200 versions gives off the same vibe as Nvidia was doing a while back with the DDR4 version of the GT1030; severely crippling performance, but still selling it under the same name.

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 года назад

      Yep. I would like to cover an ATI Equivalent, but other than very low end X Series GPUs having a confusing name they do seem to be a tad less confusing when it comes to marketing utter garbage.

  • @mmmako
    @mmmako 4 года назад +7

    My dad had one of these to get an extra monitor connected to the computer iirc, TF2 and gmod really chugged.

    • @rachael1090
      @rachael1090 4 года назад +1

      If Source games can't run on it, something's gone wrong lol

  • @dopesickhurts
    @dopesickhurts Год назад +1

    I remember picking this up for like 70 bucks in early 2004 to "upgrade" from the Geforce 2 MX400. This was probably the cheapest card at the time with shader model 1.1 support. I knew it's gonna suck, but both Deus Ex: Invisible War and Thief: Deadly Shadows required a card with sm 1.1.

  • @Johnman9000
    @Johnman9000 2 года назад +3

    My first pc had a 400MHZ AMD K6 and a Nvidia TNT2. My second PC had a Athlon XP2400+ and a Geforce 5200, 128MB. It ran about this well. I remember the DAWN demo impressing the heck out of me. A few years later i got a FX5500 BFG 256MB card and it was a big improvement. I remember having over 200+ FPS in quake3 at 1024x 768.

    • @jarihaukilahti
      @jarihaukilahti Год назад

      fx 5500 were basicilly the quality version of 5200 -10% better in everyting with double memory _ I saw 5500 sold as a card for business since it were so much more expensive

  • @AdiiS
    @AdiiS Год назад +1

    My god I had this card, I remember my dad buying me a PC back in 2005-2006 for 600usd or so, with a celeron 2.8, FX5200 128MB, 256mb RAM ddr. I remember playing games even though they lagged hard I was happy as a kid.

  • @Falco95
    @Falco95 4 года назад +3

    Oh wow, I remember having this "GPU" in my first PC and despite me being an almost total newbie in computers at that time, I can recall that card being trash af. The IT guy who built that machine, told me it was a great deal for gaming..... in 2005. I had 128mb of DDR RAM with it and a Sempron 2600+ (total price 450€) and I was sad because most of my games lagged a lot. I was surprised when RUclips recommended this video to me tbh, that made me think I wasn't wrong about this card.

    • @vine00
      @vine00 Год назад +1

      128mb ram in 2005? yeah the fx 5200 wasn't your only issue lmfao

  • @obsoletepowercorrupts
    @obsoletepowercorrupts 3 года назад +1

    There are many good things about those cards (largely not mentioned in the video):
    As long as you get a 128meg version or better, it has an awesome driver set (universal drivers), allowing it (or pci/agp/pci-e variants) to run on many an OS, ranging from win98/me/2k/xp (with server 2003 to 2008) to vista which thereby includes win7 and win 8.1 so you can use it in server2012 _(and none of that hypermemory rubbish an AMD cheap card would demand, or nvidia equivalent)._ And yet it is higher spec than the typical matrox you'd get in a server2012 PC, so you can run aero and html5 web-pages.
    Also it has older linux drivers but also open-source drivers in linux as per 'Nouveau'. Furthermore, that means the Nouveau drivers use the pci to pci-e translation chip (BR02) which is a very clever bit of nvidia hardware to allow fx series pci cards (or agp) chipsets to run on pci-e. Not to be sneezed at when you see the alternatives. Also, even the lower spec 64meg fx5200 cards have a nice usage (with low power) as they (especially PCI) can be used in a KVM cisco emulating mboard (e.g. a domestic level Gigabyte or ASUS board you rig-up with an fx8350) to allow the uefi bios to post past the 8meg video-card limit. And the fx5200 cards use up basically none of your iommu bandwidth slots (so you can use those for vmdq etc.). They can be underclocked to run silent (and are low-profile). Then you can have ut2004 running in the background so it uses basically no resources (and patched, ut2004 is far better than ut2003 and has great mods to adapt it into sports games or ww2 etc.).
    The fx5200 can also display in a reasonable high resolution for spreadsheets etc. If using cpu-only in dolphin-emulator, the card still works. The ubiquitous nature of the card means you can get spare parts such as cooling. The svideo out is in PAL (Perfect At Last), which is nice for amiga retro emulation or even on a CRT (and you can route it around your house's coax if its in such a server).
    One of the main things the video missed is that there are games that simply won't display graphical effects correctly on on some AMD/ATI cards and so an nvidia (even an fx5200) is better. NeverWinterNights is a game from the era (which would commonly run on a computer of 1GHz or 2GHz as many people owned such rigs with an fx5200, be it singlecore or dualcore). The same computers (with or without upgrades) would continue to run the game for years while expansion packs were released such as Shadows Of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark (let alone the community expansion pack that went on for years). A Radeon9800pro (no matter the drivers you tried) would not display correctly graphic effects such as doors breaking open, and yet a fx5200 would do it just fine. It may seem all very well to slag off the fx5200 for being "slow" but actually the effects (which the reasonably speedy RAM would handle) actually worked where as a 9800pro (a very popular card) would break the game's special effects graphics, and the card "being faster" simply makes a faster broken game. The 9800pro btw had a great many drivers. The particle effects such as colourful lasers (in other games too) would stiil run fast enough on such a card for people who are not interested in high polygon count requiring cards with an expensive FPU.
    This review pits the card for jobs it is not really intended for, and the game's graphics setting should have also be tried for the purpose of the card for which people bought it (when planning a careful budget build). Also, those cards, when overclocked (which you are not meant to do unless you take responsibility for maintaining the hardware and cooling) were meant to have kits installed such as ram heatsinks and fans you mount of the PCI screws in the computer case. If a person wants better graphical effects, they put copper heatsinks on the RAM with good paste and overclock the RAM ever so slightly, whereas the GPU and its FPU are not so important. The video did not do that. One of the reasons to have later versons of the fx5200 (and the 6200 and 7100/7200) was not to have a faster card on the GPU but for faster RAM to be available for those aformentioned special-effects in games that relied on the RAM. The card is also capable of decoding some video codecs.
    Gamers were often very happy to play a game with a low polygon count but a high resolution on some dualcore pentiumD (with a heavy PSU power-draw) without the need to upgrade the PSU when using a low-power fx5200, and so they would overclock the RAM just a little for a few fancy sparkly effects, and to hell with the high count of polygons or draw distance. Not all games are about draw-distance.
    Not only does the video compare the card to solely a ATI card (which does not have the same effects standard), but the era of the card's competition is ignored in terms of intel GMA graphics (which btw ran farcry water effects) and matrox cards, and some voodoo cards. The video seems happy to complain about the effects problems on the fx5200 (and in graphics glitches in Twighlight Princess emulation of another video unrelated to the fx5200) but ignores the effects the card CAN do whereas other cards fail to (such as the NWN example). The video also ignores the competing and complementing platforms such as the playstation2. While the ATI radeon series may well have run doom3 in the way an xbox owner would have liked, the fx5200 was never marketed as that game's strongpoint but instead would be found on playstation2 titles cross-platformed to the PC. An example is "Over The Hedge" (a disney animated movie game) which clearly says on the box that an fx5200 would be required. And guess why? Because the Special-Effects were important, not draw distance. Likewise "Hola Pinata" is a family/kids game that could use it. Some people just want a pick-up-and-play fun game without needing heavy commitment. As with UT2004, the dualcore patch (v3369 etc.) meant that the fx5200 (on say a dualcore circa 2GHz) would perform very fast with the proper effects as advertised to be _"Nvidia, the way it is meant to be played"._ Even ut2004 only needed 64meg graphics.
    Also the video is not a fair test of the card but instead conflates the card test with a test of the pentium4 system which is by no means the system such a card would be limited to, especially considering its many variants (pci-e etc) and the card's longevity in being sold and produced. A PCI-e system would easily use such a card when competing with onboard intel graphics GMA (such as a 945 or 950) of the era, and so those mainboards would commonly accept a pentium4 and pentiumD range, including singlecore and dual (or even quad) core processors, for core2duo at say 1.8GHz, or even a cedarmill/presler dual-core at about 2GHz or more. Definitely a fx5200 would commonly be found (just as would a 6200 or 7200LE) in a dual-core machine playing ut2004 patched for dual-core performance.
    A lot of this video was very unfair and wasn't especially knowledgeable as to how, in the past, it would be purchased sensibly by those making good builds in the day and the video lacked knowledge on how to deploy tweaks to the cards and systems to make it run at its best, all on contemporary hardware. It is a pity because some parts of the video were pretty good. You have to be careful taking potshots at technology because if you don't know the full story, you end up looking silly. It is all too easy to be impulsive and jeer at something rather than look at its pros and cons. Don't come crying if you get jeered back. Just giving you a heads up, kindly.
    Yours dynamically instanciated,
    Marjorie Digluconate.

  • @Silanda
    @Silanda 4 года назад +6

    Bought a 5200 Ultra IIRC, benchmarked it, returned it, got a 5600 instead. Still a mistake.

  • @PietroSoft
    @PietroSoft 4 года назад +4

    I had one, when i was 14. I loved it, it was way better than the integrated graphics of my first PC. So i have good memories using this GPU.

  • @acloserlook5823
    @acloserlook5823 4 года назад +7

    This was the generic "upgrade" that best buy sold for like 6 years straight. I got it thinking it could run tes:oblivion. Nope. My broke ass learned how to use "oldblivion" and like it.

    • @bacatube1
      @bacatube1 4 года назад

      Yup, that's the game that finally made me get a new card. Lowest settings, 800x600, and it could barely squeeze 8-10 fps.

  • @BenYork-UBY
    @BenYork-UBY 4 года назад +1

    Ah, the FX5200 was the very first GPU I personally bought with my own cash. I was a kid at the time trying to replace the integrated chip in my Dads budget Pentium 4 Dell. I ended up with the FX5200 because
    A) It was dirt cheap. And I was a highschooler with no money.
    B) It ran on a PCI slot. AGP wasn't an option since for some reason Dell decided our Pentium 4 wouldn't need that.
    C) I needed a small form factor card that could fit on a BTX motherboard.
    It ran UT2004 and Halo CE on minimum settings and allowed me to use 800x600 resolution instead of 640x480, which was pretty underwhelming. But to its credit it was able to render Halo's shaders (the integrated intel chip couldn't even do that and left master chief in greyscale). Unfortunately it had a bulky oversized fan that defeated the point of needing a small form factor card. The fan broke from being jammed into a slot where it didn't perfectly fit and started making horrible noise. I ended up replacing it rather quickly with a 6200 which functioned much better while still being small and cheap.

  • @uncreative_name48
    @uncreative_name48 4 года назад +4

    I swear I have so many of these things, I have ACCIDENTALLY bought some a few times

  • @ruikazane5123
    @ruikazane5123 11 месяцев назад +1

    Holy crap. I gotta tell a story about my 2004 Toshiba Satellite Pro M30, that got a Pentium M 725 and the FX Go5200 - in 128MB, 128-bit! It was clocked at 200/250 (core/mem) and with driver 44.64 (latest official Toshiba driver) it was slow. Even with the CPU overclocked with ClockGen and using a USB sound device because sound turns into garbage above 1757 MHz core (the PCI timings are also overclocked so yeah)
    Upgraded the driver to 83.60 from Guru3D inf and it ran GTA:SA at full screen resolution (1280x800) at a completely playable framerate, at maximum draw distance - that nVidia startup logo wasn't for nothing, perhaps. NFSU2 ran good at full screen resolution but at low-ish settings. NFS: Most Wanted (2005 of course) ran well...but only at 800x600 or lower. Flight Simulator X was a mess.
    Loaded Rivatuner (Afterburner's daddy, same developer) and started ramping the clocks. Was able to play Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault (which required Shader Model 2.0, which the FX series were bad at) in 640x480! NFS Carbon now also ran well and completed the game. An attempt to run ArmA was done...and nope...not even with hacking to get the resolution to 320x240 and mess with quality settings...FPS was single digit at average. Clocks were now at 266/400.
    The last stand was a visual novel, Rewrite. Drivers became an issue, as soon as I start the story intro it launched a BSOD would pop up (driver stuck in infinite loop) and had to take the last version (175 or something) and mod it. That took days...then tried going back to 83.60...then DNA-Force drivers...then plenty of restarts to safe mode to use DDU...finally figured it out!
    It needed all the overclocking and all the cooling I could (with a Delta 90mm blower sucking all the air out of the thing) and just as I completed the game story the GPU gave up. It ended up with half the VRAM missing, only 64-bit, then limping it two more years where it became 16MB - sometimes even failing to get past the BIOS screen without artifacts.
    What a journey with that laptop. Played plenty of Command and Conquer: Generals on that thing. Played competitively on LAN, along with Counter-Strike. All the Illusion games where possible. Three hard drives, one worn out, one dead after an Olympic worthy flip, other one still in. RIght now, that laptop sits right below my newest laptop, a Dell Precision 7510. Can't bring myself to take it and put the thing into storage for some reason...

  • @ItsDoozei
    @ItsDoozei 4 года назад +23

    A potato can literally handle more heat than this gpu

  • @stojicgaming893
    @stojicgaming893 3 года назад +2

    Budget: *accidentally opens too many steam tabs*
    this card: NOOOOoooo....

    • @XxiLLViLLAiNxX
      @XxiLLViLLAiNxX 3 года назад

      I can imagine the card somehow producing sweat as it fears the increasing workload lol

  • @lordterra1377
    @lordterra1377 3 года назад +3

    Think it's already been said by others here but these cards work fine for Win98 and lower builds. You won't really have many games that should stress the card too bad. I tried one of these in a P4 I ran with 98 and it performed well. The nice thing about these cards is they are new and cheap!
    Also Morrowind was very good looking game for it's time. Especially considering the scope of it.

  • @Timberjac
    @Timberjac 6 месяцев назад +2

    I had its big sister the MSI Geforce FX 5750 ultra and well, at first it went well, but I think it's possibly one of the graphics cards that have lasted the least (and I don't do O.C.) and that have given me the most problems. A friend had the MSI Geforce FX 5950 Ultra and his experience was like mine, initially fine, but his ended up out of service even before mine because it started giving him problems before mine did.

  • @ArtemisKitty
    @ArtemisKitty 4 года назад +5

    Even the Matrox cards had a good use - they were amazing at producing perfect colors for print/production when paired with a couple good monitors, like the older Sony Trinitron ones. The FX5200, though? Couldn't even handle multiple monitors without choking, and if you had 2 separate model screens? Good luck EVER coming close to a color match screen to screen...

    • @Pidalin
      @Pidalin Год назад +1

      also they had DVI connectors in time when it was pretty rarely seen on nvidia or ATI cards

    • @ArtemisKitty
      @ArtemisKitty Год назад

      @@Pidalin Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that detail, thanks! It's been so long since I saw it, that bit slipped my mind.

    • @Pidalin
      @Pidalin Год назад

      @@ArtemisKitty I was just recently playing with some G450 or what was that, some 32MB GPU from like 2000 and it has ONLY DVI, which means that you already needed LCD in that time or adapter to DSUB. 😀

  • @Crazy_Borg
    @Crazy_Borg 4 года назад +1

    Friend of mine upgraded from a Geforce 4200 to a FX5200.
    "its Number is a 1000 more, so it must be better".
    Yeah, that went as well as expected. And he did buy a 128mb retail card, not one of the crappy OEM junk ones. He got a 5% increase in fps for 150€.

  • @krypz0n
    @krypz0n 4 года назад +5

    I used to have this around 19 years ago.. to try and squeeze something oit of it i tried overclocking it.. smoke started coming out of my pc case and it burned my gpu, mobo and some other components...
    Good times lol

    • @vladdx
      @vladdx 4 года назад +1

      Liar, the card didn't even exist 19 years ago

  • @dan_loup
    @dan_loup 4 года назад +2

    I think they crippled the vertex performance on purpose, because they kinda overdid it on the geforce MX4xx cards and many CAD people skipped the expensive as hell Quadros for it.

  • @SomeBlokeOrWhatever
    @SomeBlokeOrWhatever 4 года назад +7

    Oh dear god this card.
    I had this on my first "true" gaming computer. The first one that wasn't hand-me-downs.
    I played through all of Half Life 2 on it. And I was on that phase that I think every young gamer goes through where they crank up the graphics to max even though the game runs like garbage.

  • @KevinSills
    @KevinSills 3 месяца назад

    It does support DiectX 9.0a, and I have this card (FX5200 PCI 256mb with 128 bit interface) in one of my retro Windows 98 computers. I use the Nvidia driver version 43.45 along with nGlide version 1.05 to run Windows 95/98 era games, and the card is quite capable in this role. But, some people insist on testing the card in operating systems, and on games it was never meant to run! My second Windows 98 rig sports the FX5700, 256mb AGP card for again windows 95/98 games using Nvidia driver version 56.64, and nGlide version 1.05, and games like Quake 3, and Unreal Tournament look glorious! Games like Halo, and Unreal 2004 I run on my high end Windows XP machine, because these games deserve that much love!

  • @scara1701
    @scara1701 4 года назад +3

    I think I even outperformed it with my ti4200. Also these videos make me feel old... :)

    • @Pidalin
      @Pidalin Год назад

      Ti4200 is much more powerfull than FX5200, I have both of them.

  • @richardchantlerrico
    @richardchantlerrico 3 месяца назад +1

    I remember buying one of these to replace my GeForce 4 MX440 so I could place Act of War.
    It ran like trash, even on that game and it seemed to be either a defect or bad driver.
    Spoke with a friend that knew more about computers back then (I was just getting into PC at the time) and he said to return it for an ATI 9050.
    So I took it back, told the store of the issues and asked for an exchange which they were happy to do. Ended up getting a minor refund as the ATI was cheaper.
    That 9050 was an awesome card which i kept until I got another ATI card and didn't go Nvidia again until I got a 780ti.

  • @Kortexual
    @Kortexual 4 года назад +6

    That is the driest thermal paste I've ever seen.

  • @AllMuscle1
    @AllMuscle1 2 года назад

    Mine was a BFG Asylum GeForce FX 5200 128-bit 256MB - an overall weak card, but what I could afford at the time. I had hours invested in SimCity 3000, Homeworld, and The Moon Project. That last title had plasma and electricity weaponry that looked so pretty on the screen. I replaced it with an AMD Radeon 9600 XT which was a major upgrade. I was coming from a GeForce 2 GTS which was included on my first ever computer bought with money from my high school graduation. The computer came from Cyberpower PC and included an AMD Athlon 1.4Ghz Thunderbird, 512MB of DDR RAM, the GeForce 2 GTS, and a huge 19 inch CRT monitor. It was a dream. The GeForce 3 was out, but was priced way out of my budget. This kicked off an era for me as I would later find that building my systems was the only way I would do it from that point forward. So glad I did.

  • @Rainbow__cookie
    @Rainbow__cookie 4 года назад +60

    Imagine this with a fx cpu
    The ultimate fx pc 😂

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад +17

      Well, the FX-55 was basically the fastest back then and basically killed every Pentium 4 available.

    • @dyter424
      @dyter424 4 года назад

      And of course it deserves something much better than a measly FX5200.

    • @MrOoh50
      @MrOoh50 4 года назад +5

      Ahah I got both a AMD fx 6300 and I got also a Nvidia fx5200 unfortunately is an agp version, or is better at least, the bottleneck potential can destroy the entire world. :)

    • @NovaDoll
      @NovaDoll 4 года назад +1

      Bumbo my 3900x is crying.

    • @Rainbow__cookie
      @Rainbow__cookie 4 года назад +1

      @@MrOoh50 lmao

  • @RaimarLunardi
    @RaimarLunardi 4 года назад +2

    I had one of those back then... on win XP
    Mafia, GTA VC and SA ran very well... on a AMD Duron

  • @SupraBlack-dp4zz
    @SupraBlack-dp4zz 2 года назад +7

    I remember buying an FX5200 Ultra in the early 2000's when it came out. I didn't remember it being that bad at all. May have been a TI, but don't think so.
    I remember it being green and purple with a bionic woman's face. Got Myst 4 / Uru, Unreal, Doom shareware and some random other programs.
    Always wanted the Fx5800 ultra, the hair dryer. Good times!

  • @Corristo89
    @Corristo89 4 года назад +2

    I bought this turd of a card back in mid 2003 and I'm still angry at myself for wasting 150 euros. I honestly didn't know any better, saw the card in a store, wanted a new graphics card that day and it was the only one in my budget. 14-year old me was a proper idiot.

  • @thdvinh
    @thdvinh 4 года назад +4

    back in day, i was tricked to buy this garbage instead of Radeon 9200, and it drives me crazy.

    • @TheSynrgy1987
      @TheSynrgy1987 4 года назад

      Returned mine n got a Radeon 9000, the FX5200 came with Morrowind but couldn't even play it, it's pretty bad when you can't even play the pack in game lol

  • @p2p104
    @p2p104 2 года назад +1

    I have nice memories. My parents bought me first desktop in 2003 or so, with Intel Celeron 2,4GHz and this FX5200. It was def budget build, but at that time it was all they could afford. We played hours on that thing.

  • @jovanbabovic5941
    @jovanbabovic5941 4 года назад +4

    Hey guys, which card is better? Geforce4 MX440 or FX5200?

    • @tigerdefensesystems
      @tigerdefensesystems 4 года назад +1

      5200 as it supported all Dx 8 pixel and vertex shaders... the MX did not only the Ti series

    • @classic_jam
      @classic_jam 4 года назад

      Kevin Spurrier The MX440 does perform slightly better in some DX7 games though :)

  • @Synderr
    @Synderr 4 года назад +2

    Omg i had this card ganged up with an AMD Sempron 1.8 back in the day, fancy case with green leds and everything haha, loved the thing!

  • @codykamminga9667
    @codykamminga9667 4 года назад +5

    Had a FX5500, was not that bad, used to play GTA SA just fine

    • @MasticinaAkicta
      @MasticinaAkicta 4 года назад

      At least the FX5500 had more power then the FX5200 and better memory handling.

    • @classic_jam
      @classic_jam 4 года назад

      Masticina Akicta Funny though since the FX 5200 Ultra is typically faster than a 5500. The entire lineup was a mess though. ATi was killing it.

    • @codykamminga9667
      @codykamminga9667 4 года назад

      Jam shame of the ATI drivers not being as good and stable as the Nvidia ones

    • @classic_jam
      @classic_jam 4 года назад

      cody kamminga They were always fixed a month or so after launch, then they consistently demolished the Nvidia cards. But nvidia outperformed or nearly matched at launch (except FX lol)

  • @Almarracing
    @Almarracing Год назад +1

    I never understand why this graphic card was so hated, i had one XFX GeForce FX 5200 128mb paired with an AMD Sempron 2800+ (socket 754 if i'm not wrong) and this PC allowed me to play tons of games in those years (circa 2004-2009)

  • @tiranobracitos
    @tiranobracitos 4 года назад +3

    I've played Half Life 2 on an FX 5200 :P

  • @NavyDood21
    @NavyDood21 2 года назад +1

    Recently discovered your channel. Been watching a lot of the vids and its really making me want to go and build a windows XP machine. I wasnt able to afford my own stuff until after Vista was a thing.

  • @matt4193
    @matt4193 4 года назад +4

    5:44 PEGGLE EXTREME

  • @SUCRA
    @SUCRA 3 года назад +1

    Great video, I don't know why but I do have a thing for the fx cards, haha!

  • @Zerotwo-ks8rg
    @Zerotwo-ks8rg 4 года назад +3

    It's good for a budget retro gaming PC.

  • @JT-ko2ib
    @JT-ko2ib 4 года назад +1

    For my first computer I owned completely myself I specced it using the Computer Shopper magazine, via the reliable green Watford Electronic pages. Looking through the graphics card options, and an FX 5200 appealed to me. It was probably the reasonable price coupled with 128MB RAM, and a new architecture which made it sound good. Not bad for the old titles I played and the well optimised games, but Far Cry was too much, and textures failed to load in. That's as far as my card and system went.

  • @JohnDoe-le8fy
    @JohnDoe-le8fy 4 года назад +7

    I remember "Upgrading" my G4 4200 Ti to this and it being worse in almost every way.

    • @javiermarcosesturillo4984
      @javiermarcosesturillo4984 4 года назад

      I wonder what was in your head?, replacing what it was the cheap version of the HIGH-end range of the g4 series with a LOW end range of the g5 series? Not even the mid range
      Of course it was worst in every way

    • @javiermarcosesturillo4984
      @javiermarcosesturillo4984 4 года назад +2

      The 5200 was the equivalent to the 440mx not the 4200ti

    • @JohnDoe-le8fy
      @JohnDoe-le8fy 4 года назад +2

      @@javiermarcosesturillo4984 First getting into PC's at the time and got snookered by the local store. It was a nice learning moment.

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX 4 года назад +1

    I remember that my MX440 was not capable to run kkreager but FX5200 was, awso HL2 on MX440 did not show reflections and on FX5200 it does

  • @fcukugimmeausername
    @fcukugimmeausername 4 года назад +5

    This is the first and only time in history a gamer could legitimately and proudly say "I own an ATi".

  • @adamlipsky8010
    @adamlipsky8010 4 года назад

    I bought it back in the day because I got an offer for 128-bit version for a price of the lower spec. What attracted me was the passive cooling (I had a super tower from an old server then, excellent cooling with chimney effect). No overheating effects (I installed a massive home-made copper heatsink). Replaced my MX200. Very good picture quality - who ever used VIA integrated card, will confirm! It was very compatible and affordable card, run every game in its day. Had it for many years, actually gave the whole computer away then, in 2018 the new owner was reportedly still using the machine (retiree, just office work) with W7. I insist it was a good purchase for budget-oriented gamers. Would do it again

  • @jeffnickels6199
    @jeffnickels6199 2 года назад +2

    Unpopular opinion: I found a 5200 ultra, overclocked it and it wasn’t a bad card for my brothers pc. He played only hunting games and it did that great.

  • @waldojim42
    @waldojim42 4 года назад +1

    I had a 5200 I bought for an old Athlon XP 1600+. Hated every minute of that thing. Sure, it was better than the MX440 it replaced, but not by much. I believe it was Final Fantasy online that forced me to upgrade. I simply couldn't OC it enough to get it to handle the lowest settings. Moved to a 5700LE Optima from PNY, and absolutely loved that card. It OC'd to double its shipping clocks, and ran everything I threw at it with ease for a fair number of years. I wish I still had it for my retro build, as it was fantastic.

  • @VitorVelosoSA
    @VitorVelosoSA 4 года назад +1

    I remember one day my father got home with a FX5200 and I was crazy about having a offboard vga. That time I was playing Need for Speed Underground 2 and I was excited about having more video quality of the game. Honest, I probably got 5% more of performance. As a kid I was kinda happy, but nowadays I see how bad it was

  • @Velktron
    @Velktron 4 года назад +1

    Last year I found an old battered FX5600 (same NV34 core as the FX5200, really) with no heatsink for 2 Euros in a charity store. Slapped a mobo chipset heatsink on it, and it worked just fine. A tip to get more performance out of these cards: don't use the latest official drivers. Stick to version 73 or so. It makes a nearly 100% difference in benchmarks.

  • @OOZ662
    @OOZ662 4 года назад +1

    Guess I lucked out back when my mom bought me one; it performed about as well as expected for a budget card. I played Aces High I on it at workable FPS until I saved up for my 6800, no real complaints. That game had practically no particle effects besides very basic smoke trails, though.

  • @waynerowlinson6177
    @waynerowlinson6177 4 года назад

    Having 3 young kids at the time who wanted to play Halo, I had to upgrade 2 of the computers so it could run properly. They already had decent CPU's (Athlon 2500+ and 2200+ if I'm not mistaken) and plenty of RAM, so this was going to be a "cheap and easy" upgrade. One of the computers got a ATI 9600 pro, the other a FX 5200. I remember having to lower everything on the computer with the 5200 while the ATI was able to play with much higher settings smoothly. Both were approximately the same price at the time. Thank goodness the kid with the FX was a good sport, and was happy playing at 640X480. He was rewarded a short time later with a Radeon 9800 Pro. The Radeon 9600 and 9800's went for a while in those computers, the 5200 went to a friend who quickly replaced it as well.

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel
    @justanotheryoutubechannel 2 года назад +1

    I’m super fascinated by those underhanded optimisations in far cry.

  • @hartsickdisciple
    @hartsickdisciple 2 года назад

    I had an FX5200. It did the job for me for a couple years. It was a substantial upgrade from a Voodoo 3 AGP in my old Gateway Pentium 3 tower. The 5200 ran Jedi Outcast fairly well, at least at 1280x1024.

  • @Sobbsy
    @Sobbsy 4 года назад

    I actually got one of these when they came out purely because it was the cheapest card I could buy at the time that would allow me to enable the pixel shaders for Morrowind to get that sweet sweet mercury looking water. Morrowind was such a gimped game performance wise that it barely even mattered what videocard you threw at it, so for THAT purpose, it did its job just fine haha. I had the low profile XFX 128mb card, and like everything I did back then I slapped a fan or two onto it before I even fired it up the first time. I still have that card in a box here somewhere. Hell I still have my TNT2 and Rage 128 and all sorts of things... I always kept my old hardware.