I swear, it was the TNG Era where Star Fleet was 'pretending' it wasn't a military organization after experiencing a golden age of relative peace. It got arrogant (and Q showed them/Picard otherwise). The TOS Era Star Fleet knew damn well it was a military organization. Star Fleet needs to be able to face the threats of the frontier, because the frontier doesn't care if you are "peaceful explorers".
Shrug, Galaxy could fire off 20 torpedoes at once in salvo form. With the largest phaser arrays even to the “present” day. If you think the stock Ent-D wouldnt have been pasting waves of Jem H’adar fighters as easily as the Defiant as another hero ship IDK what to tell ya.
this episode showed how outclassed the U.S.S. Odessey (Galaxy Class), it was battered to hell with no effective shielding then rammed and destroyed as a lesson@@rubaiyat300
I feel the same way. I had a fan design that was armed similarly. The biggest difference, armament wise, is that my ship deployed drones instead of fighters.
A BattleStar... In that case, fit it with a Coaxial Warp drive so that the captain can yell _"Jump"_ in an emergency. Just imagine this thing suddenly appearing behind/above/below an enemy ship(s) with its own front firing arc facing them.
The Armitage class is another anime reference, Referring to Armitage the Third (or Armitage III) Which is also referenced on it's corresponding patch with the roman numeral 3 on it. Armitage the Third was released by Pioneer in the wake of the success of Ghost in the Shell, both in it's original series format, as well as a film: Amitage III: Polymatrix.
@@Daginni1 Well they tried not to in the first season and came up with the horrible Romulan and Federation fleets with tons of USS and RRW Copy&Pastes
@@maybetobyand it was itself originally an STO design! It just didn’t make the cut (and for good reason tbh). But the sketches all existed years ago, the rush work was in turning them into CG models
Honestly I’m not surprised we don’t see point defense more in Star Trek. Torpedoes are usually portrayed, at least before the last seasons of DS9 and Voyager as being too fast to shoot down. And non-torpedo projectiles do get shot down by the ships Phasers more than once
But at the same time, I would expect those Engineers to Treknobabble a way to create "phaser flak" to stop a torpedo, or something. Then we got just Star Trek: Galactica.
The radiation emitted by various types of torpedos might interfere with sensor calculations, resulting in such a drop in targeting accuracy that it becomes a roll of the dice to attempt point defense.
Yeah I feel like point defense was more common during the tos and pre TNG era but once ships started being able to Gatling gun torpedos it became a better idea to just strengthen shields and hulk plating
maybe that's the point of the whole system? phaser-turrets made to work as Point Defense,but not as attack Phasers anymore? especially phaserstrips,without any mechanically moving parts,should be fast enough (except long range torpedos in warptransit). directly bound to a computer-gunner and near area "where's that damn torpedo?" scanners. if you slow down the torpedo-impact rate to your shields,they might hold much longer.
I’m not going to lie, I do hope to see the Thunderchild Class or the Armitage Class become canon, cause I’m not fully onboard with the Alita Class being the only evolution of the Akira. Its profile honestly looks more like a precursor to the Akira rather than a successor with all the rougher, more utilitarian shapes making it stand out in an odd way compared to the rest of the rather smooth and clean-looking 25th century fleet. Maybe with the Alita basically being a carrier like the original idea for the Akira Class, maybe the Thunderchild or the Armitage Classes are more akin to support “escort” vessels that could work really well in formation (not that formation) with the Alita Class.
In STO I have all the Akira variants, (because I am a massive fanboy of the OG ship -_-) but the Armitage has always been my favorite, appearance-wise. These days I'll fly the Alita but use the Armitage skin, and I have her specced out to be a single target burst-down-anything monster. She's a bit of an outdated ship, as far as the meta goes in STO, but she's still fun as hell to fly.
This ship looks more like a old school Pirate ship, got to love that rounded aft section, it almost looks like the stern gallery found on 16th century sailing ships.
I’m still can’t get over why isn’t there complete squadrons of defiant class ships, Take a shuttle bay with doors at each end scale it to fit 2 to 4 defiants now build a Akira around that. During peacetime and normal theaters of war, they keep the fighter craft compliment. But also can load up for defiant class and become capital ship/Starbase killers Drop out of warp hot as one ship, turn on all sensor pings to make it as loud as possible to enemy sensors, deploy defiants from rear door in “dark” mode. The Akira sets course to target fires the full, complement a forward, facing weapons at a point in the shield grid veers off and uses all of those torpedo tubes to cover the four defiants that had powered up and followed that Akira and totaled five full frontal weapon barrages from five Borg killing ships, and then just to warp nine in five different directions. Awesome channel thank you for posting things that make my imagination question my fandom
I think the reason the Alita doesn't have Defiants is because they already have all the anti Capital Weapons on them, they need to be able to deal with massive swarms of ships, which fighters would be better for
I fly this hull from time to time. Just wish the Matsumoto class was renamed Arcadia to keep the A name convention and to properly respect Leji Matsumoto.
Whoa. I came here just for the name. The two classics of Anime in my collection that inspired my love of Sci Fi into adulthood, spawned by a childhood spent with a father who is a Trekie. I had a hunch it was actually what it looked like on the surface. Thanks for confirming it within the first few minutes.
This ship's appearance was a surprise and possibly a last-minute addition. Most of the STO ships in Picard were recently made; remastered in more detail, or (in the case of the Odyssey class) a brand new, high detail model was made for the show. The Alita was an older model that wasn't updated at all.
Armitage is also an anime about a Combat Droid on a Cyberpunk Mars... (the anime is "Armitage the Third"). As a Trekkie and Anime Nerd, I approve of this convention.
In STO one of my main characters flies the Legendary Akira, kit ashed with some elements of the Alita. Using the Terran and Discovery Reputation weapon sets, plus the point defense system and the multi-directional artillery system from the Terran Lexington, it is constantly firing off torpedoes in all directions at all times. Good times.
And I forgot the Warhead Module from the Defiant refit, which fires a burst of six torpedoes that hit the same target, Robotech swarm missile style. Soooo much fun. And with Kemocite Laced Weaponry, every torpedo detonation causes a 2km radiation burst! Mwahahahah! I love my little torp monster...
@@kylebrooks3683 one other console you missed out is Opening Salvo from thr Titan Science Destroyer. The console from that also allows you to fire even more torpedoes as well
If I were to put my med bay somewhere, that is where I would put it. Its rather protected, but you still get a med bed with a view. And one deck for a lounge.
Given the Inquiry-class was being named after explorers and cartographers, I think it's possible they were originally following in the footsteps of the Galaxy class - in normal service, an exploratory cruiser that could be up-armed and retrofitted to serve in a battleship role; but then it had to be redesigned to fit that role by default in the wake of the destruction of Utopia Planetia. The Alita, on the other hand... Well, Starfleet designs and builds their ships like Swiss Army Knives; multipurpose, and capable of cutting you. The Alita was designed and built from the keel up as a Swiss Army Knife where EVERY attachment is a knife - it is build for the sole, exclusive purpose of cutting you.
Yeah, seems post Borg and Dominion Wars, the Federation realized maybe having a standing military isn't the worst thing to have, as both powers proved you can't always talk your way out of a situation.
@@Drave_Jr. There's a brilliant line from the Klingon intro mission in Star Trek: Armada 2 - "Why does the Federation expect everyone to be as peaceful as they? Are they completely without guile? Or is it just lack of common sense?" Welp, they've certainly learned their lesson by the 25th century!
@@markmarano913 To be fair, it was only in the 24th Century, during the Federation Golden Age after the Klingons lost Pravus and was more or less a weird form of a Federation protectorate, that there was the whole, "We aren't military."
Ok... The Alita Class is very cool. I play Star Trek Online... I know what ship I want to switch over to for a while. She's a tough little ship and I'm interested in playing STO with her. Good job on the video. It was excellent.
I interpret the shuttle bay layouts to be the smaller fore bays for launching shuttles/fighters and the larger bay for recovery. I know they just launched out the back in game, so thats just my personal headcanon. The fore bays are lower than the aft. So I thought after recovery was done in bay 1, the craft would be moved down to bays 2 and 3 by lifts. I guess it could depend on circumstance. If you had an enemy in front of you and you wanted a protected launch, you'd use the aft bay or vice-versa. I use the same logic for my Presidio class.
Ok I feel more comfy naming my OC Akira class ship 'Aragorn' if the classes' successor is the Alita class! Ship names from stories and fiction are awesome, especially after USS Thunderchild!
@@JeremyBuxmana few “defensive” torpedoes is all it takes to glass a planet! That’s one of the things I liked that Discovery finally showed, given it did come up in dialogue a few times in earlier shows but was always averted.
I remember making the Suggestion for the Akira Class on the STO Forum like 13-14 years ago.... managed to convince them to add the Carrier hanger bays and 15 torpedo launchers... even tho in game it would be pretty much a 360 degree firing type device...
My hero ship is an Armitage Class upgraded with an Ailta saucer section. I named my ship the USS Exit Strategy. Been naming my lead ship that ever since the multi vector advanced escort was a thing.
This ship is awesome! I love the design. But the armament is just... wow. I would love to see this ship in battle in one of the tv series or forthcoming films.
It would look great but runs out of Torpedos in what...20 Seconds? And where do they get the energy from to fire all those Phasers at once? But for the game its fun.^^
@@XTheCronosX well the torpedos are slightly smaller than a adult human so could carry a few thousand in the pod. As for power, likely routers power from the Warp Drive for it.
@@jacara1981 both is not going to happen. Is the whole ship/pod just torpedos then? one good hit and its gone. And why is every other ship running out? Power from the warp core? That was never enough in every other ship ever before... They can do hit and run and recharde in between though... Or don't use shield, thrust etc just to fire? risky, but depending on what is going on... Edit: If it would be that easy to do, half the klingon would have Guns with thruster/Warp, not ships XD
@XTheCronosX before the dominion war ships didn't pull most of their power from the warp core, because that power is needed to run if they have to. Main weapon, shields, and other power needs comes from Fusion generators the ship has, thus the need for deuterium and tritium.
Apart from bingewatching your STO Story Series, I *love* these class breakdowns. Would love to either see the Glenn class or the Narendra (personal favorite) as the next video please sir.
It's a ship thats a bit too tall for my taste, it almost looks like an old Akira Class had hull parts added from a Klingon ship. Also it's soo not the USS Imperious, it was Achilles-class.
I love the Armitage III movies and I'm going to assume that was the namesake given the Akira and Alita names. For that reason alone I really hope it makes it into canon.
HI Rick, ANOTHER - wonderful video…. in ANSWER to the question about “ not wanting to be in front of this thing “ -> my answer would be more along the lines of… I think I would need to be on the other side of a closed wormhole? Kapisch ? LOL
I got to admit this is a cool design. 14 torpedo tubes on a Starfleet ship...yikes. I wouldn't want to be on the opposite side of that thing in battle.
The escort that just says, "I'm not letting anything touch the thing I'm escorting, and I will create a true vacuum in the space where anything that thinks about it used to be."
I have to comment that the vessele you used as the "study model" for the Alita class was the "Edgerunner" Also named after the Cyberpunk anime "Cyberpunk Edgerunners." So potentially we might get an "Edgerunner" class in the future.
Edgerunner is a general term in the Cyberpunk game system, most Player characters are Edgerunners, people who live and ply their trade on the fringes of society: Fixers, Solos, Netrunners, Etc. It's been a term in the Cyberpunk game setting long before the anime came out. It was in use back in the day when I played Cyberpunk 2020 (the Tabletop RPG)
@@BigEpinstriping Yes, but the ships are named after cyberpunk anime. Edgerunner refer to the anime Cyberpunk Edgerunners, which opens up the possibility of an "Edgerunner" class in the future in the same vain.
This ship's visual design is 50/50 for me. I absolutely love every bit of the saucer and most of the hull (except that weird shape of the impulse engines), but I hate the nacelles and pylons. Upper pod isn't great either. What's worse is that the pylons raise the nacelles upwards instead, creating one of the worst side profiles of any ship in the fleet. Seriously though, that saucer is perfect. The shape is great, the cannons are visually distinct now, and the hangar doors are enlarged and emphasized even better than on the Armitage. It looks more like the light carrier it's meant to be, in addition to looking more heavily armed as a warship.
Head-cannon: Oslo-class is a cut down more "civilized" version of the Akira, taking the base inspiration from the Norway-class and scaled up nacelles from the Nova-class. Potential goal was, post-Borg and post-Dominion war, it was to be a more pre-war era starfleet patrol ship, to be taking the place of the old Contellation-Class' and New Orleans-Class' role. This can also be seen in it's sister-class, the Zephyr-class, which took inspiration from the Steamrunner-class. Both classes alluding to a more streamlined production and a more friendly approach to previous eras of exploration and policing of the borders. Post-Nemesis and the environment passing toward a more unfriendly quadrant with the Hobus supernova and Klingon political upheaval, an under-armored Akira suddenly saw itself being prematurely outdated, hence the development of the Amitage, Thunderchild & Alita classes as further refinements of the Akira as a weapons platform.
Maybe Starfleet needs combat starships because there are a lot of strange new worlds in the Milky Way that could be hostile to strangers, And wouldn't think twice about destroying them.
That's an incredible ship! The Enterprise-E I think is still my overall favorite ship but this may come close. I always wondered what would happen if Starfleet went wild and tried to make something that rivals a SW Star Destroyer (In size/scope) but this ship is probably as close as we're going to get.
It’s Japanese name would be Gunm considering that’s the actual name of BattleAngel Alita, that was almost called Rusty Angel. Being an old anime/manga fan back when it came out makes me do this.
The only part of the design that's weird, IMO, is the back end of that curved structure above the main hangar bay on the aft. For some reason, it's got windows extending far back into the hull in a place where the space is questionable at best, but the windows are totally pointless. Beyond that, this thing is just beautiful and terrifying. This is one design I will always support in STO.
Put opening salvo, along with the auto targeting torp spam and your normal torpedo orders and you pretty much turn the Akira or its offshoots into a god of destruction and choas with torps flying everywhere
that thing is pretty cool, but try watching the video again - but turn your iPad. If you have one upside down it looks so much better from that direction. It’s like the ship is upside down. It looks really cool.
I'm curious regarding the bay silhouette displayed at the 4:53 mark. When I watched your video for the original Akira-class, that acknowledges a through-deck hanger concept. Bow to Aft. With the intention that it was carrier of fighter craft. As interpreted by the artist who designed it for Star Trek. But was never seen filmed as such. Is it not possible that within the Alita that the aft hanger reaches further forward to permit a lift situation connecting to the spaced apart shuttlebays at the bow?
Great episode but the background music seems a bit too loud at some points. With the sound of road noise it made it harder to make out what you were saying.
Remember in the 90s how everything was *_eXtreme!!_* ? That's this ship. I would ask if Rob Liefeld designed it, but I can tell he didn't because it lacks a thousand pouches.
Still prefer running my Defiant derivatives when I get the itch to play STO, but I do have a fondness for the Alita and Armitage classes. If nothing else, they're great for pissing off a lot of enemies at once. :P
A canon ship with 14 torpedo launchers? I won't be ashamed of my fan-designed ship with 10 launchers now!
I swear, it was the TNG Era where Star Fleet was 'pretending' it wasn't a military organization after experiencing a golden age of relative peace. It got arrogant (and Q showed them/Picard otherwise). The TOS Era Star Fleet knew damn well it was a military organization. Star Fleet needs to be able to face the threats of the frontier, because the frontier doesn't care if you are "peaceful explorers".
Shrug, Galaxy could fire off 20 torpedoes at once in salvo form. With the largest phaser arrays even to the “present” day. If you think the stock Ent-D wouldnt have been pasting waves of Jem H’adar fighters as easily as the Defiant as another hero ship IDK what to tell ya.
this episode showed how outclassed the U.S.S. Odessey (Galaxy Class), it was battered to hell with no effective shielding then rammed and destroyed as a lesson@@rubaiyat300
I feel the same way. I had a fan design that was armed similarly. The biggest difference, armament wise, is that my ship deployed drones instead of fighters.
@rubaiyat300 the galaxy literally got pasted by like 6 fighters lol
Most starships: "3 Torpedo launchers; 2 forward one aft"
Alita: "14 torpedo launchers; 6 forward, 4 aft dorsally; 2 forward, 2 aft ventrally."
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Alita: "Plus 11 phaser strips, 4 pulse cannons, and 2 shield-disprupters/jammers"
When you "escort" (really a Battleship), nothing gonna touch what you protecting.
Truly a ship capable of Panzer Kunst.
The Akira class has 15 torpedo launchers according to it's designer, Alex Jaeger.
@@BagoPorkRinds there are 16 on the model, and some point sideways.
Imagine using SpaceX Star Ship 8 meter wide ring sections to build the above Ship....
I may have missed it being mentioned, but just like Alita and Akira, the Armitage was also named after a classic Cyberpunk anime, named Armitage III
Pronounced Armitage the Third.
The ship in the video is also called the Edgerunner.
Great animes.
I was about to point that out.
"...you are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
"Ensign, do you see these 3 enemy vessels in front of us?" - "Yes sir." - "Please make them dissapear." - "Yes sir!"
I understood that reference.
@@idoticHydra5671weapons, bridge, shooting point sequence, tube one through six, target designate Sierra one through three, shoot at bearing.
Delenn was more terrifying than any of the First Ones when she wanted to be.
GNU Mira Furlann- gone beyond the rim too soon
A BattleStar...
In that case, fit it with a Coaxial Warp drive so that the captain can yell _"Jump"_ in an emergency.
Just imagine this thing suddenly appearing behind/above/below an enemy ship(s) with its own front firing arc facing them.
In my head canon, it does.
#sosayweall
cough*picard manoeuvre*cough
Need something for that cough, lol.
It honestly looks like it has more than a little Klingon DNA in it.
Blood wine in the Captians quarters behind the desk.
The Armitage class is another anime reference, Referring to Armitage the Third (or Armitage III) Which is also referenced on it's corresponding patch with the roman numeral 3 on it. Armitage the Third was released by Pioneer in the wake of the success of Ghost in the Shell, both in it's original series format, as well as a film: Amitage III: Polymatrix.
Really appreciate you doing more STO ships that appeared in Picard.
The fact Picard; a mainline Star Trek show, is accepting a MMORPG's ship designs is honestly just great on its own.
@@Daginni1 Well they tried not to in the first season and came up with the horrible Romulan and Federation fleets with tons of USS and RRW Copy&Pastes
@t.800XR they didn't "try" to do anything. The Inquiry class was a very last minute addition, which led to the disappointing fleet.
@@maybetoby exactly
@@maybetobyand it was itself originally an STO design! It just didn’t make the cut (and for good reason tbh). But the sketches all existed years ago, the rush work was in turning them into CG models
"Harrassing hangars of heated hail of hellfire", that was beautiful, pure poetry. Well done, sir.
Honestly I’m not surprised we don’t see point defense more in Star Trek. Torpedoes are usually portrayed, at least before the last seasons of DS9 and Voyager as being too fast to shoot down. And non-torpedo projectiles do get shot down by the ships Phasers more than once
But at the same time, I would expect those Engineers to Treknobabble a way to create "phaser flak" to stop a torpedo, or something. Then we got just Star Trek: Galactica.
The radiation emitted by various types of torpedos might interfere with sensor calculations, resulting in such a drop in targeting accuracy that it becomes a roll of the dice to attempt point defense.
Yeah I feel like point defense was more common during the tos and pre TNG era but once ships started being able to Gatling gun torpedos it became a better idea to just strengthen shields and hulk plating
maybe that's the point of the whole system? phaser-turrets made to work as Point Defense,but not as attack Phasers anymore? especially phaserstrips,without any mechanically moving parts,should be fast enough (except long range torpedos in warptransit). directly bound to a computer-gunner and near area "where's that damn torpedo?" scanners. if you slow down the torpedo-impact rate to your shields,they might hold much longer.
@@aikrichter5403 that is a good point point
I’m not going to lie, I do hope to see the Thunderchild Class or the Armitage Class become canon, cause I’m not fully onboard with the Alita Class being the only evolution of the Akira. Its profile honestly looks more like a precursor to the Akira rather than a successor with all the rougher, more utilitarian shapes making it stand out in an odd way compared to the rest of the rather smooth and clean-looking 25th century fleet. Maybe with the Alita basically being a carrier like the original idea for the Akira Class, maybe the Thunderchild or the Armitage Classes are more akin to support “escort” vessels that could work really well in formation (not that formation) with the Alita Class.
Especially that navigational deflector. The Akira having it so smoothly integrated into the hull just looks more advanced flat out.
Well in addition to it looking a little like it has some Klingon, there's a certain flair of Romulan in it as well. It's a Battle Angel...
In STO I have all the Akira variants, (because I am a massive fanboy of the OG ship -_-) but the Armitage has always been my favorite, appearance-wise. These days I'll fly the Alita but use the Armitage skin, and I have her specced out to be a single target burst-down-anything monster. She's a bit of an outdated ship, as far as the meta goes in STO, but she's still fun as hell to fly.
I loved the Akira class ever since I listened too Jeff Wayne's war of the worlds, and then watched star trek first contact.
This ship looks more like a old school Pirate ship, got to love that rounded aft section, it almost looks like the stern gallery found on 16th century sailing ships.
That front profile makes me think more than a few Klingons were on the design team for this beast.
Would definitely welcome a Thunderchild video (heck, two of them; one for the Akira-Class vessel and one for the Thunderchild-Class)
I’m still can’t get over why isn’t there complete squadrons of defiant class ships,
Take a shuttle bay with doors at each end scale it to fit 2 to 4 defiants now build a Akira around that.
During peacetime and normal theaters of war, they keep the fighter craft compliment.
But also can load up for defiant class and become capital ship/Starbase killers
Drop out of warp hot as one ship, turn on all sensor pings to make it as loud as possible to enemy sensors, deploy defiants from rear door in “dark” mode.
The Akira sets course to target fires the full, complement a forward, facing weapons at a point in the shield grid veers off and uses all of those torpedo tubes to cover the four defiants that had powered up and followed that Akira and totaled five full frontal weapon barrages from five Borg killing ships, and then just to warp nine in five different directions.
Awesome channel thank you for posting things that make my imagination question my fandom
Why not have huge replicators manufacturing drones instead? Use the remains of destroyed enemy ships or stations as raw materials?
I think the reason the Alita doesn't have Defiants is because they already have all the anti Capital Weapons on them, they need to be able to deal with massive swarms of ships, which fighters would be better for
So what you are trying to build is basically a Starfleet version of the Donnager?
I fly this hull from time to time. Just wish the Matsumoto class was renamed Arcadia to keep the A name convention and to properly respect Leji Matsumoto.
Whoa. I came here just for the name. The two classics of Anime in my collection that inspired my love of Sci Fi into adulthood, spawned by a childhood spent with a father who is a Trekie. I had a hunch it was actually what it looked like on the surface. Thanks for confirming it within the first few minutes.
My favourite Akira variations are the Kusanagi and Matsumoto classes.
Rick been watching you for almost 2 years now and noticed i haven't subscribed to you... that changes today!
This ship's appearance was a surprise and possibly a last-minute addition. Most of the STO ships in Picard were recently made; remastered in more detail, or (in the case of the Odyssey class) a brand new, high detail model was made for the show. The Alita was an older model that wasn't updated at all.
Rosa Salazar, who played Alita in the 2019 movie was also in one of the short trek episodes.
Armitage is also an anime about a Combat Droid on a Cyberpunk Mars... (the anime is "Armitage the Third"). As a Trekkie and Anime Nerd, I approve of this convention.
In STO one of my main characters flies the Legendary Akira, kit ashed with some elements of the Alita. Using the Terran and Discovery Reputation weapon sets, plus the point defense system and the multi-directional artillery system from the Terran Lexington, it is constantly firing off torpedoes in all directions at all times. Good times.
I assume that with tour build, you have Torpedo Spread as well for even more torpedoes
Hmm yes, lore accurate Alita class combat tactics.
@@lanchester101 oh yes. And Entwined Tactical Matrices, so whenever I use my cannon scatter volley, I get -more- torpedo spreads!
And I forgot the Warhead Module from the Defiant refit, which fires a burst of six torpedoes that hit the same target, Robotech swarm missile style.
Soooo much fun.
And with Kemocite Laced Weaponry, every torpedo detonation causes a 2km radiation burst!
Mwahahahah!
I love my little torp monster...
@@kylebrooks3683 one other console you missed out is Opening Salvo from thr Titan Science Destroyer. The console from that also allows you to fire even more torpedoes as well
i really like the aft section that looks like a sailors-ships back cabin thing
If I were to put my med bay somewhere, that is where I would put it. Its rather protected, but you still get a med bed with a view. And one deck for a lounge.
It's nice to see Battle Angel Alita get some recognition outside of its relatively niche fandom.
It's a tough ship! A couple squadrons of these things could make even the Dominion rethink its plans for the Alpha Quadrant!! Nice!
So say we all!
Akira, Alita and Armitage class ships... Need an A-Ko class, next.
Along with the experimental gadgeteer B-ko, and the small but equipped with a powerful subspace wave 'scream' weapon C-ko? :-)
Given the Inquiry-class was being named after explorers and cartographers, I think it's possible they were originally following in the footsteps of the Galaxy class - in normal service, an exploratory cruiser that could be up-armed and retrofitted to serve in a battleship role; but then it had to be redesigned to fit that role by default in the wake of the destruction of Utopia Planetia.
The Alita, on the other hand... Well, Starfleet designs and builds their ships like Swiss Army Knives; multipurpose, and capable of cutting you. The Alita was designed and built from the keel up as a Swiss Army Knife where EVERY attachment is a knife - it is build for the sole, exclusive purpose of cutting you.
Yeah, seems post Borg and Dominion Wars, the Federation realized maybe having a standing military isn't the worst thing to have, as both powers proved you can't always talk your way out of a situation.
@@Drave_Jr. There's a brilliant line from the Klingon intro mission in Star Trek: Armada 2 - "Why does the Federation expect everyone to be as peaceful as they? Are they completely without guile? Or is it just lack of common sense?"
Welp, they've certainly learned their lesson by the 25th century!
@@markmarano913 To be fair, it was only in the 24th Century, during the Federation Golden Age after the Klingons lost Pravus and was more or less a weird form of a Federation protectorate, that there was the whole, "We aren't military."
I find that tiered mini-starbase looking back section really interesting visually
Love all the Akira variants. My fav thou is the Armitage I run on my main. Has both the phaser and torp point defense systems. Great against Hur'q.
The Alita was the first ship I spent actual money on when I started STO in 2021. It's a fun ship, it would cool to see it get an update.
U.S.S. EDGERUNNER
Cause I really wanna stay at your house....
Gods, why do I have to hear her everywhere?!
Finally, a Star Trek ship that _almost_ caught up with 1970s naval surface warfare tactics.
Was this Sisko's wishlist, but Starfleet said "You gotta make it smaller"? Is that why we ended up with the Defiant?
Ok... The Alita Class is very cool. I play Star Trek Online... I know what ship I want to switch over to for a while. She's a tough little ship and I'm interested in playing STO with her. Good job on the video. It was excellent.
Akira is the perfect representation of federation PTSD after wolf 359 cause there are never enough torpedoes
How many more torpedo's do we need sir?
Admiral: All of them.
I'm currently farming to get this ship so this video was quite a surprise, but a welcome one.
I interpret the shuttle bay layouts to be the smaller fore bays for launching shuttles/fighters and the larger bay for recovery. I know they just launched out the back in game, so thats just my personal headcanon.
The fore bays are lower than the aft. So I thought after recovery was done in bay 1, the craft would be moved down to bays 2 and 3 by lifts.
I guess it could depend on circumstance. If you had an enemy in front of you and you wanted a protected launch, you'd use the aft bay or vice-versa.
I use the same logic for my Presidio class.
I’d love a new show with one of these as the hero ship!
Wow the federation now uses fighter craft. I was going too say this ship reminds me of a Battlestar
Thunderchild, Armitage & Alita all come from one fine ship
Ok I feel more comfy naming my OC Akira class ship 'Aragorn' if the classes' successor is the Alita class! Ship names from stories and fiction are awesome, especially after USS Thunderchild!
There she is! Been sailing my Alita in STO for a while now. Shes fun :D
We are starfleet, and we are dedicated to peace and exploration.
So how many guns should this new class have?
All of them! MORE! MORE!
And inside that space there are bad guys that would do nothing better than the blow us out of space peace or not
As a community, we do not really get how horrifying any Fed ship would be if we start at TOS. Any science vessel should be able to burn a planet.
@@JeremyBuxmana few “defensive” torpedoes is all it takes to glass a planet!
That’s one of the things I liked that Discovery finally showed, given it did come up in dialogue a few times in earlier shows but was always averted.
We are starfleet, we love to meet new civilizations in mutual co-existence.
Just don't push us to thin ice.
@@davidb4715 Its all thin ice out there!
Worthy of the name _Battle Angel_ .
The logo for the class had angel wings too.
@@hudsonball4702both the Sword and angel wing is Damascus patterned. Neat detail to the rusty angel herself.
I remember making the Suggestion for the Akira Class on the STO Forum like 13-14 years ago.... managed to convince them to add the Carrier hanger bays and 15 torpedo launchers... even tho in game it would be pretty much a 360 degree firing type device...
My hero ship is an Armitage Class upgraded with an Ailta saucer section. I named my ship the USS Exit Strategy. Been naming my lead ship that ever since the multi vector advanced escort was a thing.
This ship is awesome! I love the design. But the armament is just... wow. I would love to see this ship in battle in one of the tv series or forthcoming films.
It would look great but runs out of Torpedos in what...20 Seconds? And where do they get the energy from to fire all those Phasers at once? But for the game its fun.^^
@@XTheCronosX I see your point. 😅
@@XTheCronosX well the torpedos are slightly smaller than a adult human so could carry a few thousand in the pod. As for power, likely routers power from the Warp Drive for it.
@@jacara1981 both is not going to happen. Is the whole ship/pod just torpedos then? one good hit and its gone. And why is every other ship running out? Power from the warp core? That was never enough in every other ship ever before... They can do hit and run and recharde in between though... Or don't use shield, thrust etc just to fire? risky, but depending on what is going on...
Edit: If it would be that easy to do, half the klingon would have Guns with thruster/Warp, not ships XD
@XTheCronosX before the dominion war ships didn't pull most of their power from the warp core, because that power is needed to run if they have to. Main weapon, shields, and other power needs comes from Fusion generators the ship has, thus the need for deuterium and tritium.
My favorite STO ship and canon now too? Noice.
Omg…I’m in Love.
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Loved the outtakes 😂😂
Apart from bingewatching your STO Story Series, I *love* these class breakdowns. Would love to either see the Glenn class or the Narendra (personal favorite) as the next video please sir.
I love it, but Defiant Class is still my favorite.
Right off the bat, some real cool references
The Akira is when Starfleet is still lying to itself about not being a military organization. The Alita is when they stopped lying.
It's a ship thats a bit too tall for my taste, it almost looks like an old Akira Class had hull parts added from a Klingon ship. Also it's soo not the USS Imperious, it was Achilles-class.
This looks like a fun ship to try and replicate. At least- a slightly less complex version of it. I'd need 2 cockpits. 1 for flight'n, 1 for fight'n.
I love the Armitage III movies and I'm going to assume that was the namesake given the Akira and Alita names. For that reason alone I really hope it makes it into canon.
It is. Look at the development patch at 1:29. Has a III in the center.
@@NotBCTthe Alita patch also has a Damascus wing and sword so nice detail there.
I really love your videos
The Grand Old Lady. The Alita class Battlestar Galactica.
HI Rick, ANOTHER - wonderful video…. in ANSWER to the question about “ not wanting to be in front of this thing “ -> my answer would be more along the lines of… I think I would need to be on the other side of a closed wormhole? Kapisch ? LOL
I got to admit this is a cool design. 14 torpedo tubes on a Starfleet ship...yikes. I wouldn't want to be on the opposite side of that thing in battle.
A candidate for my new favorite star ship!
Looking forward to eventually seeing the Lexington dreadnought cruiser appearance on ur channel
Great ship, I think a star trek series of this ship should be made. That would be fantastic 🇬🇧
The escort that just says, "I'm not letting anything touch the thing I'm escorting, and I will create a true vacuum in the space where anything that thinks about it used to be."
Armitage and Thunderchild classes looking like Mass Effect ships.
Also worth noting that Armitage was ALSO an anime. Armitage III.
Very nice. 😎
I have to comment that the vessele you used as the "study model" for the Alita class was the "Edgerunner" Also named after the Cyberpunk anime "Cyberpunk Edgerunners." So potentially we might get an "Edgerunner" class in the future.
Edgerunner is a general term in the Cyberpunk game system, most Player characters are Edgerunners, people who live and ply their trade on the fringes of society: Fixers, Solos, Netrunners, Etc. It's been a term in the Cyberpunk game setting long before the anime came out. It was in use back in the day when I played Cyberpunk 2020 (the Tabletop RPG)
@@BigEpinstriping Yes, but the ships are named after cyberpunk anime. Edgerunner refer to the anime Cyberpunk Edgerunners, which opens up the possibility of an "Edgerunner" class in the future in the same vain.
This ship's visual design is 50/50 for me. I absolutely love every bit of the saucer and most of the hull (except that weird shape of the impulse engines), but I hate the nacelles and pylons. Upper pod isn't great either. What's worse is that the pylons raise the nacelles upwards instead, creating one of the worst side profiles of any ship in the fleet.
Seriously though, that saucer is perfect. The shape is great, the cannons are visually distinct now, and the hangar doors are enlarged and emphasized even better than on the Armitage. It looks more like the light carrier it's meant to be, in addition to looking more heavily armed as a warship.
Head-cannon:
Oslo-class is a cut down more "civilized" version of the Akira, taking the base inspiration from the Norway-class and scaled up nacelles from the Nova-class.
Potential goal was, post-Borg and post-Dominion war, it was to be a more pre-war era starfleet patrol ship, to be taking the place of the old Contellation-Class' and New Orleans-Class' role.
This can also be seen in it's sister-class, the Zephyr-class, which took inspiration from the Steamrunner-class.
Both classes alluding to a more streamlined production and a more friendly approach to previous eras of exploration and policing of the borders.
Post-Nemesis and the environment passing toward a more unfriendly quadrant with the Hobus supernova and Klingon political upheaval, an under-armored Akira suddenly saw itself being prematurely outdated, hence the development of the Amitage, Thunderchild & Alita classes as further refinements of the Akira as a weapons platform.
Maybe Starfleet needs combat starships because there are a lot of strange new worlds in the Milky Way that could be hostile to strangers, And wouldn't think twice about destroying them.
another awesome video sir cheers from venezuela!
That's an incredible ship! The Enterprise-E I think is still my overall favorite ship but this may come close. I always wondered what would happen if Starfleet went wild and tried to make something that rivals a SW Star Destroyer (In size/scope) but this ship is probably as close as we're going to get.
My favorite ship of the ships I owned in Star Trek Online. I was working on borgifying it when it quit playing.
big fan of AKira class design. this Alita looks good too!
It’s Japanese name would be Gunm considering that’s the actual name of BattleAngel Alita, that was almost called Rusty Angel. Being an old anime/manga fan back when it came out makes me do this.
The only part of the design that's weird, IMO, is the back end of that curved structure above the main hangar bay on the aft. For some reason, it's got windows extending far back into the hull in a place where the space is questionable at best, but the windows are totally pointless. Beyond that, this thing is just beautiful and terrifying. This is one design I will always support in STO.
We really need a new game like Star Trek: Armada but with these new updated ships and enemies :)
Honestly, I love the idea of anime inspired class names using the classics. Akira, Armitage, Alita. Also, they all start with "A", coincidence?
Now i wonder what armament the "Attack on Titan"-class would have - probably just a big YES
I Like how the new shuttle bay, looks like the back end of an old timey sailing ship.
Put opening salvo, along with the auto targeting torp spam and your normal torpedo orders and you pretty much turn the Akira or its offshoots into a god of destruction and choas with torps flying everywhere
I use this ship a lot U.S.S Arethusa NCC-95632
that thing is pretty cool, but try watching the video again - but turn your iPad. If you have one upside down it looks so much better from that direction. It’s like the ship is upside down. It looks really cool.
I always get a kick out of a thunderchild reference
The Armitage-class is also a cyberpunk anime reference, to Armitage III.
I'm curious regarding the bay silhouette displayed at the 4:53 mark. When I watched your video for the original Akira-class, that acknowledges a through-deck hanger concept. Bow to Aft. With the intention that it was carrier of fighter craft. As interpreted by the artist who designed it for Star Trek. But was never seen filmed as such. Is it not possible that within the Alita that the aft hanger reaches further forward to permit a lift situation connecting to the spaced apart shuttlebays at the bow?
A mother bear capable of launching a strike and following her brood into battle.
also, Alita Battle Angel is a fantastic underrated movie
Strike Wing Escort implies that this thing operates in groups which, I think, makes it even more terrifying to adversaries.
Great episode but the background music seems a bit too loud at some points. With the sound of road noise it made it harder to make out what you were saying.
That is definitely a battleship. It certainly has a battlestar vibe, too.
I'm not a fan of most STO or Picard ships, but this thing is a beast and the design makes a lot of sense.
Awesome. Thank you
Oooh, she's great. Talk about gnashers. I gotta get me one of these on STO
Using the build rules of the old Star Trek RPG, I built a nearly undefeatable torpedo boat. It only had two phaser banks but crushed with torps.
Could be a fun hero ship with a scrappy crew, doing patrol duty along the Cardassian DMZ or the Gamma Quadrant.
Remember in the 90s how everything was *_eXtreme!!_* ?
That's this ship. I would ask if Rob Liefeld designed it, but I can tell he didn't because it lacks a thousand pouches.
Still prefer running my Defiant derivatives when I get the itch to play STO, but I do have a fondness for the Alita and Armitage classes. If nothing else, they're great for pissing off a lot of enemies at once. :P