Flipper Camaro Is A Z28!?! We Ran The Numbers!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- People have been asking me about the history on this 1968 Camaro. I got it as a complete basket case. It was a stripped down shell of a car. So I finally got to decoding the vin number. I had hopes it would of been a nice rare car, big block? Z28? SS?
No it was just an everyday run of the mill Camaro. After that I decided to glue in the glass to start to enclose the car from the elements.
Up next, a whole bunch of cutting, sanding and welding.
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There are far more '68 Z28s now than were ever built..😄
That is very true
My Uncle was a supervisor at the Norwood Plant when this car was built and my dad was working there too!
It would have been built in the last week of December 1967, because the '68 models started production in September of 1967.
Correct! Tooling up for the beginning of the 1968 run might have been about July or August 1967. Therefore, tooling for 1969 would be approximately July, August 1968, after 1968 production ended.
Dan , I recently sold my 1968 Z/28 . It too was originally white with black stripes built in Norwood Ohio in Dec 1967 and sold in Edmonton. All USA records were destroyed but you can google GM "Vintage Vehicle Services" in Oshawa Ontario for all records of every U.S. built Camaro sold in Canada. They can tell from your serial # if you have a actual Z/28, and EVERY options, as built, including dealer that sold it and even key codes and much more . Definitely worth checking it out as documented Z/28 body is a great selling point , even if not "restored". The only other way to prove it is the "Protect-O-Plate" found in the owners manual or glove box . I'm sure yours is long gone by now
Before spending the money at GM Vintage, there are many other indicators to look at...to get an idea of "what it is/was"
@@SesameStreetRacingChannel True ! but GM documents are definitive when trying to convince a future buyer
@@SesameStreetRacingChannel True, but always good to have GM's paper work.
@@SesameStreetRacingChannel Buying the GM build sheet, is worth gold .
It has a automatic brake panel assembly and if there is no sign of it ever being a stick car it's definitely not a Z28
Just an FYI, on anything you actually care about, the windshield and back glass should always have a ribbon of 3/8" butyl tape, back-filled with urethane.
Butyl tape prevents glass from sinking too far into the pinchweld, so you won't have a gap between the glass and the moldings.
Agreed... and window clips be set in place to centre the class for proper trim fit. The buyer will have to remove front/rear glass and do this right if they really know to.
Camaro tags are very hard to decipher. I had a 69 X33 car.
Anyone that wants to restore this car will want to remove the glass to paint it. Total waste of time and money putting the glass in.
Z28s did not come with automatics! 4 speeds only!
Why put glass in before u prime it?
Dan wants the new glass in first, so he can hit it with welding and paint.
I've said it before, but watching you not clean, prime and paint the glass channels is like OCD shock therapy for me. I was actually gritting my teeth at one point. I understand what you are doing though. You can put it outside now after you put side glass in. Also, the car is easier to sell when see it with glass. But, my OCD wants to ask if you at least put rust converter in the glass channels??
Everyone thinking they are calling dan out and saying mOnO lEaFs? ITs NoT a z28¿ has never watched this channel or literally dont get it. Its a running joke. Click bait folks. Click bait.
I think SS`s had 12 bolt-multileaf (5) springs and RS`s had hide-away headlights. Hard to tell by the Plate. It`s probably an average 327 powerglide car I bet. My neighbors `68 Camaro was an original RS with 327 Powerglide with hide-away headlights. Another friend`s plain `67 was a 327 powerglide original and a third friends was a plain `69 with a 307 and a 4 speed added instead of the three speed standard. All High School buddies from the late 70`s. I remember lots of Cruising Fun in those Camaros !!!
The way the car sets high I’m assuming it has heavy front end springs for a big block engine
RS and SS setup the rear end may have been changed. You never know until you get all tags checked out
Why are you putting in glass before it’s painted?
Everything's more effort than you wanna put in.
This is what I mean, sometimes Dan. A little more effort and you'd have a really good channel when I first start. Ed watching you. I thought you had a really good thing going and then you just started slapping things around and hurrying up and rushing. Cause you thought more more more Sometimes more is not better sometimes.
Cramming moron is not better.
It's just my thoughts
Leave the slots on man. Theyre the best looking mag.
White car and blue interior was quite common back then. It would be on the cowl tag.
Back in the 80s when I lived in California my dad used to get these Camaros cheap like under 500 complete car. We'd strip them down then cut em in half then down the middle and take the parts to the Pomona swap meet. Rust free parts were an easy sell. Corvette parts sold good too. Now they fetch good money all junked up and rotted times have changed.
Could you post a link to the video you explained the accidental vin showing to strangers. Just wanna get the run down after. I missed that story.
that marker throw was funny🤣
It's June! Why do you have to heat something on a heater??? There in Canada. What weekend is summer, a??
Anything but those ugly steelys and horrible poverty caps.
I believe when I worked at the Tonawanda Chevrolet Engine plant the year went July to July as a production year .
I had a 70 1/2 camaro that was built in October of 1970. I remember my brother had a book on the history of Camaros and for the 1970 model it had pictures of a concept 1970 model that had the 1969 molde with the 1970 1/2 front end the was inspired by the Jaguar x model. The totally redesigned the whole car and got a complete new body. They were late in designing and manufacturing hence the 1970 1/2 Camaro.
Back in the day, being poor folk we had black rims with baby moon hub caps. Just sayin.
Every body on utube is doing thrash together builds now,would be nice to see you paint it like the convertible but it’s probably already sold.
It sold fast.
Paint white high built , like ya did the 56 2 dr post car , that ya sold body and kept frame for somadd, and you were in love with the white high build , it’ll look sweet
Don’t hit the glass drilling them screws in . Good luck I’d f it up
Stealies in the back in Australia, means you are going to do burnouts
I must be the weird one because I like the slots
Hell yeah much better.
The slots would be my pick. Really, anything will look great.
I knew someone who had a base model 1969 Camaro with 2 options, the Z28 option and black stripes. The car was white. The engine was an DZ 302, 4 bolt main. Earlier Zs had MO 302s, 2 bolt mains.
It's starting to come together Dan. I've installed many windshields and you did it just like I do. Cars looking good.
Dan, in the 60's a model year was built from July of one year to July of the next year and sold from September of one year to September of the next year. Exceptions were mid-year introductions that were introduced and sold from February to September of the same year (e.g. 70-1/2 Camaro). The same is still pretty much true for today.
Steel is always in the back for traction all old school
Dan, I have always put a "nice" (not necessarily new) set of wheels and tires on all my vehicles, truck or car. I agree that it definitely makes the look of the vehicle, for the better. I would explain that the wheels and tires do not go with the sale, UNLESS they want to pay additional for them. In my mind the first thing I had to do was swap out the running gear.
I can see it now a 60x120 shop in the country down south in the warmer country.
Have fun at the Hand and Hair model expo !
Dan you've got bigger ones than I do! I never have had any luck with window installation. If I just look at glass it breaks. The car definitely does look better with glass in.👍
Steelies in the back is almost as bad as a tunnel ram.... Sell it with the wheels that came on it.
Should have painted the pinch welds first, and put the molding clips in. Camaros are notorious for rusting out there as is!
I have noticed that nobody uses butle tape anymore. I think it's easier to work with than urethane.
with single leaf springs? not z28.
Would be neat if you could determine that it’s an actual Z28…Dan can you elaborate on what lessons were learned about sharing a VIN with a stranger? What types of wild and wonderful things can someone do with a VIN? Given that they are visable to anyone who cares to walk up to a car and take a look.
i DO SO ENJOY WATCHING YOU WORK and i am learning so very very cool thank you
Keep it four wheels slots. At leaSt it will all match. If I was buying the car, that is what I would want. Loved this and all your videos!
Correct it is missing alot, to know exact what is was, but if your a die hard gm, you would know the intricacies of how each model was possibly built,
As far as the D12 or 12D, gm started producing the next years model car in like Sept of the previous year, so your build date was more likely dec of 67, not dec of 68, in dec of 68 they would been producing 69 cars,
There is other tell tale signs, if you know the parts are original equipment
Example is, if you was to measure the motor mount perch on the frame, if the perch came back as say 1 7/8 inch wide, the other option was a 2 inch wide perch, most don't know about the lawsuit over these engine mount rubber breaking, the 1 7/8 mount was for engines under 300hp, like the 6 popper, 265,267, 283, the 2 inch mount was for engines over 300 hp, 302, 327, 350,396, 427,
They also included the cable tie down to keep the motor from lifting and locking the carb rod linkage,
In 70 the engine mount design i believed changed total,
Other signs would be,
Wiring, holes in firewall for accessories, the brake proportion valve placement,
There is so many details,
Good luck, keep it building😊
Howdy to you both!! Thought I'd reach under the old, I mean really old, skullcap and fetch you a bit of food for use later.
If you take the VIN# and enter it into a Secure VIN Search, online, in seconds it will tell you everything your heart desires about the vehicle. Seems a lot easier to me, I've used it. I knew my 04 Jeep WJ came from the US as the speedo is in Mph instead of Kph... the search told me tons about it and for free. Even the order options were listed. It is a NY vehicle, and no, it was not rusted out. 😆 I got very lucky, she's approaching 300,000 miles, rust free, original engine ( not rebuilt, you can't kill a good 4.0 Il6. ) still gets great gas mileage and handles real good off road and it's an "Antique"... 🙄
Things seem to be going the swimmingly Dan way which is par for the course and supported by Danni's laughter. Excited to see it on wheels and in primer. 😃... the car, not Danni. 😂
As far as the tire/wheel ordeal... keep your good set and do whatever you wish on the car. I'm old and with you on the steelys in the rear.
It’s still a cool old Camaro…get it in primer and it will sell… we all know… EVERYONE wants or needs a Classic Camaro from our friends from DD SPEED SHOP! You need some old school decals for the car trunk or rear 15:12 panel for your DDSpeed shop. Get 500 made and you can sell them for 10 bucks each… US dollars of course. Keep up our entertainment level is still high.❤
25:15 Dan does know better. I guess this is just his style. Fortunately for him, the rework on this car is going to be someone else's problem.
Seems lately they are just rushing to "make content."
Hey, it's his car and his channel. Rock on.
Dan, do you know how to paint a car?
No Butyl ribbon available in Canada?
Is there an x11 on the cowl tag? Also Canadian cars have total records available from gm
You should at least put pinch weld primer on before urethaning windshield and rear window in.
Mark the bottom of the windshield and then take your stud welder that you used to pull dents with and weld a stud on the driver's side and one on the passenger side sniff them off where they're the same thickness is the windshield and then put your sealer and your smooth or whatever else you're going to put on there and the windshield will set on those studs and that will hold the windshield in place until your sealer dries simple we have even used small sheet metal screws and when you take the screws out do it with the wire feed fill the holes up or if you use the studs for your stud gun just taken get them where the power of flowers and move them and break them off simple simple
Ok, yeah, that's perfect, but DD Speed Shop ain't gonna do that ! 🤣
You are supposed to use butyl tape on the windshield in the back glass
Now you're starting to catch on.
If you looked up the about the number of produced and look at the number on your Vin, you're gonna catch on to how many you got and you're gonna get the I. Dea that. You maybe not have many left in the world
Steelies in back, mags in front, the bracket racer's favorite 👍👍
There were NO '68 Camaros made in Dec. 1968, prob last '68 was built in the summer of 1968. GM change over to new model year happens, in most cases happens in the summer. So your Camaro was most likely built in Dec. 1967. By Dec. 1968, 1969 Camaros were being made.
Dan, also known as a 200lbs gorilla
7:19 That’s December 1967 build date. Model year starts in August or September.
Cars for say 1968 would release in Sept of 1967 and usually continue production until sometime late supper early fall so they could switch over for next model year, so a Dec 1968 production would be when they were making a 1969 model .... so somehow the numbers on the cowl tag must be a little different alignment./meaning other than 12=Dec.... unless it was Dec 1967
Is the throttle linkage a cable or rods. If it is a cable, it is not a Z28. Camaros that came with Holley carbs (Z28s and 375hp SS396s) had adjustable rod linkages.
The slots are period correct so I would leave them on it.
At 25:38; Well, the Nova's seat belts are still sticking out. ;-)
I'm sure you'll claim, no one told you. ;-D
Ermine as in Ermine White, is pronounced, ur'-muhn. The word is often used to describe (white)fur coats.
Don't be that guy with the wheels
Slots up front with the chrome reverse in the rear , some chrome slapper bars and a chrome diff cover. Screams 1977
Better put those windo clips in first, wrong windo sealer,dam I don't get it why do u tubers so lazy,,all bet you no windo,,CROME,,,😂
Window and chrome is correct spelling ( lazy)
I like the slots all around
Should be looking for X-55 or X-33 or something like that for a special model. I think 🤔
I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST RUN THEM SLOTS DAN.
If I was able to buy it I would want the slots. I would put BFG TA 245/60/14 on the back and 205/70/14 on the front with white letters out or 225/70/14 all the way around white letters out.
Don't you guy's have "Safelite" in Canada ? Fast, cheap, easy, guaranteed !
Making good progress on the 68 Camaro. Glass installation went well. Nice assist to Dani. Cheers!! 😎
Good morning from Cape Cod 🐋 it's looking great Dan 👍 everything you do to this Camaro is a huge improvement, I don't agree with everything you do but then again I don't have to 😉 nice shot with a marker Danielle 😂 keep up the great work guys 👍✌️🇺🇲
The 1967 and 1969 Camaro Cowl Tags will identify if the car is a real Z-28. The 1968 Camaro Cowl Tag will not.
Unfortunately, 1968 Camaros don't have option code info on the Cowl Tag like 67 or 69's. You would have to have the build sheet to know.
Your hand is getting tired putting on windshield sealant because you bought the cheapest caulking gun. My dad was the same way and I hated having to use it. I spent like 15 American on one and it runs anything simply. I'd like to own a battery powered one for consistently because I forget to squeeze sometimes but a better tool always does a better job.
There you go again , you gotta get that mentality out of your head
Not sure about 68 but 69 was x33 for Z28, but you did point out was Canadian and they do code different I believe as well
Lots of places where numbers are stamped in body panels , sub rails , sub frame and on sheet metal that has been replaced . Look for videos of people that document Z-28's here on youtube . Hidden numbers .
You should call it a factory original Z28 with a corvette motor. Since al small block chevy engines suddenly become a vette engine once removed from the original car
How can you be tired? You only work about a hundred hours a week! Come on! Move it! Move it!
12D for 1968 Camaro is 4th week of December 1967 build.
tecnicly thats wrong it would have been made 12 month 4th week of 67 not 68 67 models came out end of 66 68 models came out end of 67 new model years all came out the end of the year before the model year except 70 the 70 model year is actually a 70 1/2
I had a Honda SL motorcycle roller I sold and when I went to write the Bill of sale the serial number was 00001 but the money was exchanged and I’m a man of my word so I let it go.
One of my favorite tools is my Ryobi Caulking gun! Saves the hands and forearms!
Zed?
As long as it has four MATCHING WHEELS!!!!!!!!
What’s with all the fist fights going on in the comments 😂
I think you need a new caulking gun it looks like the rod is bent
Danni, I’m sure he says Please and Thank you, off camera!!!😡😡
I see RS tail lights in the parts pile. Maybe check to see if you have a separate reverse light wiring harness already in the car, this would point to a RS/SS model since the back up lights are in the lower valence and not in the tail light.
Slots look great on that Camaro, clean them up some though.
I have them on my 68 Camaro, very nice.
There are actually late 69 camaros titled as 1970s. This one being so late into 69 Is this one of them?
Heel’s, Herbal Essence and Hot Rods , y’all are killing it . I break glass if I look at it let alone don’t install it.
Just slap the cheapest tires and wheels ya got on it. The next persons vision will probably be different anyways.
A high torque 26:1 caulk gun is MUCH easier to use.
Back glass is not called the windshield
Ah the pesky day job how it gets in the way of hotroding lol 😅
Are you guys on drugs
Of course! It’s legal here
Haha z28, how much for stripper model camaro 😂