In a way, Moder is the only mandatory boss. As far as I know, there’s absolutely no other way to get linen thread or blackmetal ingots without the spinning wheel and blast furnace, both of which require the artisan table.
You just need to get the trolls to break enough to get 20 copper and 10 tin then you can make a bronze pick. Obv though, killing eik is easier jaja. And the antler pickaxe is genuinely useful because it is reapirable with a workbench@@OneEyedGatekeeper
My favorite sequence break is making a set of Fenris armor before defeating The Elder. It’s pretty challenging to gather fenris hair from the frost caves with bronze-tier gear, but it’s definitely possible. I always craft the shirt first, to get the cold resistance buff. I love being able to be out at night and not have the cold debuff, as well as being able to explore mountain areas without feeling like I’m “wasting” frost resistance meads.
That sounds cool! I've had a blast making videos in troll gear trying to do crap in the mistlands, so I can imagine it can be quite fun. I'm super biased though. I love light armor !
The fenris set is my favorite armor in the game and it's viable all the way to Mistland. The mobility makes the game more enjoyable especially if you pair it with a knife.
I'm a few months late, but here's a few additions/corrections anyway. 1) You can get Silver without killing Bonemass. Sometimes a silver vein will be sticking out of the ground on its own. But that's rare, so a way better solution is to "prospect" for Silver with the Stagbreaker. 2) When you mentioned crafting Carapace Spear at 7:30 you said it's available as soon as you have Iron, but it doesn't actually require any Iron. It is technically available from the beginning of the game, provided you can somehow get to Mistlands. 3) Another sequence break I like to do is getting Fine Wood before Bronze Axe. You can "chop" birch trees in the Meadows with Beech tree trunks by rolling them into each other repeatedly.
Its certainly a different experience! Getting an infested mine setup though, that is super challenging and sorta RNG based if you find the cores or not. If you are going to try that part I encourage you to setup a bed in the entrance to an infested mine; its the kind of thing you should expect to die a lot figuring out!
Actually I died zero times inside mines. All you need is to bring some ooze bombs, iron sledge and lv3 iron atgeir. I can kill non-starred seekers one by one consistently with atgeir since it stuns them always. For the rest (stronger) enemies inside you need to lead them to entrance or use another way to break their pathing and just smash them bit by bit with sledge. Also, very important to wear root harnesk and have bonemass, root harnesk halves the damage dealt by seekers and if you want to descend lower or just want to be more aggressive (you actually can) use bonemass and parry soldier's and starred seekers attacks.
Regarding the iron age, if you want to complete that without glitches then you can also hire a seeker soldier to break anciet armor and swords, filled 3 ships that way in my no boss kill play through, just takes alot of patience, good dodging skills and a high tolerance against mist.
Thats a good idea! Ive been palying on a geared character these days but I enjoy getting iron/copper from the mistlands like youve described, its fun to mine stuff there and youll innevitibly aggro a seeker soldier from mining and then he helps mine !
Even if iron gate fixes the sunkencript glitch you can get a lot of iron in the sealed tower, mistland bridges and mudpiles or make a seeker soldier break some ancient armor and swords, its risky but viable
I bet something in the Ashlands will drop blackmetal; it would be weird if nothing does! It looks like theres lots of different stuff in the biome. And its not like itd be easier to go into the Ashlands than just to kill moder... so my bets on blackmetal dropping in the ashlands!@@GDD1231
Crom arbalest and carapace spear, which paired with a upgraded iron shield is good enough to run around plains, also you can use krom to break small yggdrasil trees and they sometimes drop tje ygga wood if you dont want to play around with a soldier
And the joys of getting them early... I find that to be more fun than playing the game "how I am supposed too " xD Personally, right now im working on a bypass system for bosses for that exact reason. I dont like when theres only 1 way to do something... so on the Path of Magic server... every boss has an alternative option. Don't want to fight Eik? Fine, turn in 20 deer trophies. Don't want to fight Moder? Fine, turn in 20 fuling totems. Don't want to fight the Queen? Fine, fork over 25,000 gold
Black Marble- You dont need the 2 iron- Stagbreaker damages bridges etc just fine. Just pound away at the base of the bridge pillars and once you've broken them the whole thing will slowly collapse, giving you both a sizeable chunk of black marble AND a bunch of iron ingots.
I’ve never seen anyone make videos on the fact that players can actually dig tunnels and roads through the mistlands to make building and exploring much easier
I tend to play vanilla(no-mods) with boosted world modifiers to make accumulating resources much easier. I’ll start with a biome I want to build in for a town or city in and work a little on it, build a road to a different biome generally next to the ocean for export access. I allow all items to pass through portals because naturally it’s the way it should be lol. Makes transportation of resources way faster. The whole idea that I set for myself is to give each biome a town with a story behind it, a world wide civilization that vanished in the blink of an eye, now left to one person to continue on the development of humanity. Building a road through the mistlands makes ideal locations for scary paths and ruins of old civilizations destroyed by the creatures of the mist. “No one goes into the mist for they may never return” kinda vibe. Roads add a sense advantage just running down them to me.
I literally had that brain momment the other day when I saw I could connect two valleys with a small cut through a mountainside. Been obsessed with making roads underground lit by wisplights ever since.
Bajajaja yeah that sounds more appropriate. Honestly, I think every progression step should have an alternative, that is much harder. I love that. I'm hoping that they make blackmetal bars drop from something in The Ashlands, for example.... (moder skip!)
@JPValheim yeah, I had hoped that the blackmetal traps in the sealed tower would drop smelted black metal. But no can do. I recently did a full run of obtaining the Krom without killing any bosses. Learned a lot. Wouldn't do it again haha
Agreed lol, I usually just kill Eik because I don't find it very enjoyable to get killed by troll 5 times everytime I want to get some copper. I enoy skipping The Elder though !@@anuclearsoandso
I use devcommands to make the videos, then when I play normally I do it without devcommands. I've gotten black cores without devcommands, but its definitely not easy! You need to make a base right outside the entrance to the Infested mine; and expect to die a lot getting the cores. Its definitely not an easy task!
Here, I found the old video I have showing getting to the Infested Mine without devcommands. As I mentioned before its not easy! But its possible. Here ruclips.net/video/gxQPVfO5NjY/видео.html
Personally I find that krom feels balanced. If you do not get krom early, then by the time you get it there are strong swords you can make so players dont benefit from krom as much. The arblelast is super strong though, definitely not balanced to have it early
That happens in the beginning because crossbow skill starts at 1 but your bow skill will be like 40 or so by the time you get the xbow. Just level the crossbow past 20 and it starts slapping real hard. The footage in the video shows the xbow at like skill 30
ig u can do all this stuff but bro y would ppl do some of this the krom would be cool to get that early but i feel likei cant really do that in my own play through sail all the way to the mistlands like thats od imo
Good points. Its not something new players would do. More like something that somebody can do on another playthrough to spice things up - having krom and arbelast and carapace spear is quite fun ! But its all about the world seed. You could have a close mistlands abandoned mine, or spend hours sailing around looking for one with no luck... Getting there is the hardest part. Once you get there, if you have frost arrows or lots of ooze bombs, its not so bad !
I've been using them for years and I like them, you should never leave your backups on one service, always keep local backups in addition to cloud backups. ZAP also actually pays their affiliates reasonably; while other server hosts don't pay affiliates well at all. They've also resolved every situation that has ever come up
In a way, Moder is the only mandatory boss. As far as I know, there’s absolutely no other way to get linen thread or blackmetal ingots without the spinning wheel and blast furnace, both of which require the artisan table.
Thats why I'm hoping and praying that something in the Ashlands drops blackmetal bars !
I'm guessing trolls mine tin and copper for you? Lol
You just need to get the trolls to break enough to get 20 copper and 10 tin then you can make a bronze pick. Obv though, killing eik is easier jaja. And the antler pickaxe is genuinely useful because it is reapirable with a workbench@@OneEyedGatekeeper
Damn. You are what I am looking for. Skilled funny and bit creative :D
And the queen now that ashlands are out
My favorite sequence break is making a set of Fenris armor before defeating The Elder. It’s pretty challenging to gather fenris hair from the frost caves with bronze-tier gear, but it’s definitely possible. I always craft the shirt first, to get the cold resistance buff. I love being able to be out at night and not have the cold debuff, as well as being able to explore mountain areas without feeling like I’m “wasting” frost resistance meads.
That sounds cool! I've had a blast making videos in troll gear trying to do crap in the mistlands, so I can imagine it can be quite fun.
I'm super biased though. I love light armor !
The fenris set is my favorite armor in the game and it's viable all the way to Mistland. The mobility makes the game more enjoyable especially if you pair it with a knife.
I'm a few months late, but here's a few additions/corrections anyway.
1) You can get Silver without killing Bonemass. Sometimes a silver vein will be sticking out of the ground on its own. But that's rare, so a way better solution is to "prospect" for Silver with the Stagbreaker.
2) When you mentioned crafting Carapace Spear at 7:30 you said it's available as soon as you have Iron, but it doesn't actually require any Iron. It is technically available from the beginning of the game, provided you can somehow get to Mistlands.
3) Another sequence break I like to do is getting Fine Wood before Bronze Axe. You can "chop" birch trees in the Meadows with Beech tree trunks by rolling them into each other repeatedly.
True! I guess the requirement would be bronze age, unless your sailing around Mistlands in a raft xD
Wow, I gotta try this! Having that blade and crossbow so early should make things different and fun. I love that blade.
Its certainly a different experience! Getting an infested mine setup though, that is super challenging and sorta RNG based if you find the cores or not. If you are going to try that part I encourage you to setup a bed in the entrance to an infested mine; its the kind of thing you should expect to die a lot figuring out!
can't imagine the number of deaths required to get that black forge
Right 😂, better put a bed at the entrance to that infested mine...
Actually I died zero times inside mines. All you need is to bring some ooze bombs, iron sledge and lv3 iron atgeir. I can kill non-starred seekers one by one consistently with atgeir since it stuns them always. For the rest (stronger) enemies inside you need to lead them to entrance or use another way to break their pathing and just smash them bit by bit with sledge.
Also, very important to wear root harnesk and have bonemass, root harnesk halves the damage dealt by seekers and if you want to descend lower or just want to be more aggressive (you actually can) use bonemass and parry soldier's and starred seekers attacks.
Regarding the iron age, if you want to complete that without glitches then you can also hire a seeker soldier to break anciet armor and swords, filled 3 ships that way in my no boss kill play through, just takes alot of patience, good dodging skills and a high tolerance against mist.
Thats a good idea! Ive been palying on a geared character these days but I enjoy getting iron/copper from the mistlands like youve described, its fun to mine stuff there and youll innevitibly aggro a seeker soldier from mining and then he helps mine !
Even if iron gate fixes the sunkencript glitch you can get a lot of iron in the sealed tower, mistland bridges and mudpiles or make a seeker soldier break some ancient armor and swords, its risky but viable
"risky but viable" is my kinda gameplay. Okay, maybe more like "incredibly risky, possibly viable"
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@@JackPitmanNica I really like to play this way too hahaha, lets see if moder will keep the "real last boss" title after ashlands update
I bet something in the Ashlands will drop blackmetal; it would be weird if nothing does! It looks like theres lots of different stuff in the biome. And its not like itd be easier to go into the Ashlands than just to kill moder... so my bets on blackmetal dropping in the ashlands!@@GDD1231
What about a playthrough where you are only allowed to get iron from the mistlands LOL
@@JPValheim i have been doing that in a Server for a While haha we could not kill the elder before a certain day
For dealing with wolves with low level gear, you can just walk in a tight circle around them and they cant hit you
Oh snap I just tried that, awesome! Works great on one wolf. Better than freaking out and dying lol
you sir are a scholar. well done
Im glad you liked the video!
Crom arbalest and carapace spear, which paired with a upgraded iron shield is good enough to run around plains, also you can use krom to break small yggdrasil trees and they sometimes drop tje ygga wood if you dont want to play around with a soldier
And the joys of getting them early... I find that to be more fun than playing the game "how I am supposed too " xD
Personally, right now im working on a bypass system for bosses for that exact reason. I dont like when theres only 1 way to do something... so on the Path of Magic server... every boss has an alternative option. Don't want to fight Eik? Fine, turn in 20 deer trophies. Don't want to fight Moder? Fine, turn in 20 fuling totems. Don't want to fight the Queen? Fine, fork over 25,000 gold
Black Marble- You dont need the 2 iron- Stagbreaker damages bridges etc just fine. Just pound away at the base of the bridge pillars and once you've broken them the whole thing will slowly collapse, giving you both a sizeable chunk of black marble AND a bunch of iron ingots.
Oooh I never tried using the stagbreaker, sounds like a good method !
I have to try these next playthrough. Thanks for the tips 😊
Have fun! !
you can actually break the black marble structures easily if you just dig under it.
Thats really smart I totally forgot to try that!
I found out how to unlock Krom and the crossbow and the spear before watching this. Yep, that's how it's done.
No way ! Its Amazing !
Valheim is amazing ;)
I’ve never seen anyone make videos on the fact that players can actually dig tunnels and roads through the mistlands to make building and exploring much easier
Oooh that sounds interesting, I've never done that myself I'll have to give it a try. Could you share a bit more about what you do?
I tend to play vanilla(no-mods) with boosted world modifiers to make accumulating resources much easier.
I’ll start with a biome I want to build in for a town or city in and work a little on it, build a road to a different biome generally next to the ocean for export access.
I allow all items to pass through portals because naturally it’s the way it should be lol.
Makes transportation of resources way faster.
The whole idea that I set for myself is to give each biome a town with a story behind it, a world wide civilization that vanished in the blink of an eye, now left to one person to continue on the development of humanity.
Building a road through the mistlands makes ideal locations for scary paths and ruins of old civilizations destroyed by the creatures of the mist. “No one goes into the mist for they may never return” kinda vibe.
Roads add a sense advantage just running down them to me.
You can NOT dig tunnels in Valheim!
@@TheBod76 bruh, you can dig through the stones, flatten a road, and boom a tunnel through a mountain
I literally had that brain momment the other day when I saw I could connect two valleys with a small cut through a mountainside.
Been obsessed with making roads underground lit by wisplights ever since.
I prefer the term "non-linear progression"
Bajajaja yeah that sounds more appropriate. Honestly, I think every progression step should have an alternative, that is much harder. I love that. I'm hoping that they make blackmetal bars drop from something in The Ashlands, for example.... (moder skip!)
@JPValheim yeah, I had hoped that the blackmetal traps in the sealed tower would drop smelted black metal. But no can do.
I recently did a full run of obtaining the Krom without killing any bosses. Learned a lot. Wouldn't do it again haha
That sounds hardcore man! What specifically makes you say you wouldn't do it again?
@@JPValheim way too much dodging troll swings to get the 1st pickaxe. Killing eikthyr is SO much faster and easier.
Agreed lol, I usually just kill Eik because I don't find it very enjoyable to get killed by troll 5 times everytime I want to get some copper. I enoy skipping The Elder though !@@anuclearsoandso
Silver is also easy to find with a stagbreaker and get cauldron level 4
Classic!
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Krom and Arbalest
In my current playthrough I skipped eikhtyr entirely. I can't remember what the point was tough.
Also, according to the wiki last time I checked, trolls also do black metal tier damage, meaning they should be able to break yggdrasil trees.
You can skip Eik by using trolls to destroy copper / tin and getting a bronze pickaxe that way :) Sounds like what you did!
@@JackPitmanNica yep, nothing like a raid event with necks and boars while you're smelting black iron.
Well Done.
Im glad you enjoyed the video!
Im just wondering if you did all of the mistlands’ stuffs without any dev commands. Especially getting the black cores.
I use devcommands to make the videos, then when I play normally I do it without devcommands. I've gotten black cores without devcommands, but its definitely not easy! You need to make a base right outside the entrance to the Infested mine; and expect to die a lot getting the cores. Its definitely not an easy task!
Here, I found the old video I have showing getting to the Infested Mine without devcommands. As I mentioned before its not easy! But its possible. Here ruclips.net/video/gxQPVfO5NjY/видео.html
Does it not balance much if I use chrome early?
Personally I find that krom feels balanced. If you do not get krom early, then by the time you get it there are strong swords you can make so players dont benefit from krom as much. The arblelast is super strong though, definitely not balanced to have it early
10/10
Thanks!
Yourdgsil wood ?
man I don't know if I will ever pronounce that right. I just call it mistlands wood sometimes bajaja
Did they buff the crossbow? Because it did next to no damage before. My bow was far stronger
That happens in the beginning because crossbow skill starts at 1 but your bow skill will be like 40 or so by the time you get the xbow. Just level the crossbow past 20 and it starts slapping real hard. The footage in the video shows the xbow at like skill 30
ig u can do all this stuff
but bro y would ppl do some of this the krom would be cool to get that early but i feel likei cant really do that in my own play through
sail all the way to the mistlands like thats od imo
Good points. Its not something new players would do. More like something that somebody can do on another playthrough to spice things up - having krom and arbelast and carapace spear is quite fun !
But its all about the world seed. You could have a close mistlands abandoned mine, or spend hours sailing around looking for one with no luck... Getting there is the hardest part. Once you get there, if you have frost arrows or lots of ooze bombs, its not so bad !
Fun
Thanks!
I just want to point out that you should never use zap hosting. They're amateurs and they'll properly lose both your world and back-up!
I've been using them for years and I like them, you should never leave your backups on one service, always keep local backups in addition to cloud backups. ZAP also actually pays their affiliates reasonably; while other server hosts don't pay affiliates well at all. They've also resolved every situation that has ever come up
stop pronouncing words, just, stop.
The videos would be pretty quiet if I did that xD