I have a correction: The Jotun bane is an axe not a club. Sorry I didn’t catch that mistake on the edit. There was a lot to go through. This does not change its place in the ranking for me though. It’s already rated very high for an axe.
I used to think the stag breaker was bad, but after doing a hardcore run recently, that weapon saved the entire run for the whole team. I was able to fend off sooooo many enemies during that fight, and kill them when I was cold, wet, and without rested bonus, being swarmed by enemies. That weapon forever has my respects, and I have to give it an A tier ranking in a multiplayer setting.
Early game I'd give it low S or high A. It makes burial chambers so much easier as well as dealing with big groups. I even use it in the swamp, mainly to kill leeches but it still came in handy.
Silver sword is also EXTREMELY expensive to fully upgrade. 180 Silver total takes a while to collect/get back to base/smelt and 23 Iron hurts to use up when you know you're going to need a ton of silver for the Plains biome (which I forget nearly every time). Hugely underrated weapon is the Huntsman bow (iron level with feathers). It has super low aggro radius (4m vs 8m of other bows) which means you can either silently snipe enemies, or draw them out of a crowd if they aren't all on top of each other. Very useful in the plains to pick apart Fuling Camps and draw out Loxes from their 3 packs to take on one at a time.
Huntsman is arguably the best bow in the game. The low aggro is fantastic. But it also uses very little stamina to fire. When you get your bow skill high you can basically spam frost arrows and literally freeze enemies in place. Huntsman with frost arrows is awesome in the Mistlands.
I have consistently found silver veins within spitting distance of each other. I've found silver veins that were intersecting one another twice. I made fully upgraded sets for fun cuz I had ran out of uses for it lol.
@@raultrashlord4404 Very true. My main issue with silver is the transportation and processing of large amounts of it since it's so heavy. I'm learning that I should setup my base near a mountain rather than dealing with the long ass boat ride after you spent forever just trying to get your cart of silver down the mountain. 2 years, thousands of hours in the game and I'm still learning. XD
I was using pretty much spears only in my last playthrough. They are incredible because you can get essentially a free hit on every enemy in the game by just throwing it right before they get into melee range then you pick it up instantly and can start attacking. even better than that if it staggers the enemy. makes killing enemies in the mountains like wolves much easier at least.
@@sophieirisviel4100blood bags from leech? You can stab them with knives from the edge of the water without them reaching you.. that’s how I’ve always killed them, a knife on land. I didn’t even consider shooting them with a bow. Leech are one of the biggest jokes of an enemy, unless you’re swimming for whatever reason.
I gotta say I think you're undervaluing the fire staff a bit. Having ranged AOE is especially nice for infested clearing. Using it with combo armor (root chest, heavy helm, etir legs) makes you an unstoppable bomb throwing tank. To be fair though, all magic feels a lot weaker if you're depending on the full etir set bonus, and/or if you don't prioritize comfort to extend the rested bonus.
@@NickRawcliffe Totally fair, I'm sure it comes down to a lot of personal preference and playstyle. One thing I'd ask though is how do you feel about buckler/tower shield distinction, and which would you prefer for what reasons?
My first playthrough, I was adamant on getting the highest tier armor for each boss to be the most prepared. I think I spent nearly 100 hours on the Bronze Age (also cuz I didn't know how big copper deposits actually were). It's just such a shame that it takes so many resources to make weapons that are the worst metal weapons in the game. I know we want to motivate the player to move to better weapons, but I think the Bronze recipes should be tweaked a bit, especially given how cheap Iron is (once you find a crypt).
The triple bronze mod should seriously just be the way the game is by default. 2 copper and 1 tin for a single bronze bar is absolutely mental and the massive copper nodes take way too long to mine when you're stuck with an antler pick. Copper deposits should be small and easy to clear just like tin deposits.
@@bofa722 As I recall, you can skip some of it. You can use stagbreaker to find a bit of underground iron and the antler pick to mine it which will let you skip several steps in the bronze age, and let you build in stone, which will make black forest mining much safer.
Def feel you on bronze but if you get the pickaxe first item and have a nearby smelter you can get through it semi fast. Or, if you want to cheese without mods, have a separate world for smelting and crafting so you never need to leave the node.
@@jamesh7876 enh...The bronze pick isn't that much better than the antler one, and it costs more mined resources to repair. One of the big benefits to the antler pick is you can repair it at a basic bench, which means building a repair/rest point at the copper node is just a matter of wood and stone. I usually hold on to it until I get an iron pick, even if I'm not skipping the bronze age.
The torch has another advantage when using trolls to farm your fine wood and copper and that is its ability to frighten or kill mobs as they always want to show up at that party. :)
I love playing with the battle axe. Once you master it, feels amazing. The knock back attack is OP. It's not the greatest damage attack but it doesn't take much stam and it's fast and easy to hit with and it often staggers. The regular attack even though slow has good AOE and massive damage. Now the movement penalty is steep so you have to master putting it away when needing to run and taking back out after. But master that, plus stamina management and using the attacks in the right way, it's just incredible in my opinion.
The Krom is almost like a buckler and a sword combined into one item. With the parry block armor being 100-150 and the parry bonus being 2x I’d rate the Krom S tier. It’s been the main weapon I use to kill everything. You just parry and then swing once or twice. Also it makes you feel like you’re playing dark souls too so it gets style points and bonus points because I’m biased lol
I'd really like to see a comparison of hits to kill and stamina usage on seekers for Krom vs mistwalker and frostner, I'm trying all the mistlands weapons out right now and Krom definitely gets my vote for coolest weapon so far
i've used the stagbreaker in two playthroughs now to find silver and bypass all the iron armor and weapons. it's surprisingly easy, and you can fight bonemass with the frostner.
Took our group less than 20 mins in two combined trips to find 4 silver veins extremely quickly just by going near obsidian clumps in high places that would “look like they have silver” and now were all level 2 and some level 3 silver gear before bone mass lol
@@Fa1seP0sitive i'm sorry, range and stagger are invaluable against non-boss enemies? i am a polearm main and polearms can stun lock lox from beginning until it dies without taking damages. its secondary attack can stagger lox instantly from the start. it can crowd control up to seekers with that attack, and you will have time to run. it can also stun lock one star berserkers.
I never used the Pole arms untill a ways in the Plains and was blown away. You can kill a Lox with the lighting polearm without it even moving. It will repeatedly stun it each time you spin it. 3 time's and it done. Also Mobs of Seekers it works excellent against against, does the same as the Lox, they dont get 1 move in as long as you're using 1 top stamina food. They remain stune locked untill death. I will say it doesn't do much against the Queen though. Great video bro.
Agreed re polearms. They have pretty good parry/block too although not as good as shields obviously. I'm only at the Iron Atgeir (upgraded from Bronze) so far and its a beast and has saved me against packs of enemies (looking at you wolves lol) on many occasions.
@@roughtakes7271 pissed. I wish I never started the Game, lost over 1000 hrs. My Word is gone. Tried every save and none work. Ugh, there are no words. Miss the day's when games were complete when they came out.
@@adamking4246 Any luck with rolling back? Also what platform? Did you lose both character and world or just the world? Sorry for all the questions but just wanna help....
@@roughtakes7271 I still have my Character and whats on me but all my World saves are all Corrupt and none work. Which really Sucs, it's my all time favorite game but haven't played since. I'm on Xbox1s and played using the Cloud. I put so much time in Valheim that I just don't want to start all over. Losing my main Base and around 25 outpost and all my Inventory, Tamed animals broke my heart lol.
@@adamking4246 Well that really does suck. I hope youve kept the world saves as I hope in time there will be a conversion/fixing app that can extract the data. There are programs that allow you to transfer your Cloud Xbox saves out of the Xbox to a PC where there are more tools to fix your world save(s). Although I am Xbox through and through I do play the game on Windows Store Game Pass version and am always saving to disk as well as cloud because of the issues. Really hope you get sorted man! EDIT: The save system has been made far more efficient. No more missing meta files, etc and stuff that you cant restore.....its a lot better now.....
I think a small thing about the crossbow you overlooked perhaps is how different it's stamina and ready costs are arranged vs bows. For a bow once you want to fire you have to draw for awhile and holding a bow ready to fire is taxing. For the crossbow you can swap, fire, and swap out very fast with next to no cost. All you have to do is remember to arm it before your next fight. It's not a great weapon to spam over and over but it's a pretty useful tool for responding quickly IMO.
I was able to one-shot a troll with the Abyssal Razor. I snuck up behind it and got both sneak attack and backstab with the secondary attack (leaping plunge). It was one of the coolest experiences I've had in Valheim, particularly because you can get this weapon so early.
You put bronze atgeir almost last, it's a shame for it. Atgeir needs bronze and stamina food, but if you have it, atgeir is great. It can be used to clear troll caves, crypts, draugr spawners and wolf packs. Atgeir stuns enemies. In the mountains, you have to find a not too steep place for the fight. Atgeir can even be used to block some attacks. You say it's material intensive, but think you need no shield and than the cost disappears. Atgeir reduces speed by 5%, but one handed weapon plus shield reduces 10% of speed. Bronze atgeir may not be many ranks higher, however it is solid middle (mountains biome) game tool, not to be in the last places. It is very risky to throw a spear in the mountains, there is a risk of losing it permanently. For me stone axe is most the most unnecessary. Why not make just few steps further to coastline and get flint axe? Anyway, thanks for the video and the speedrunner's opinion.
@@Lethargy514 Its also good beyond. Currently running Lv 3 Iron one and its a beast. There's a reason its expensive to upgrade; its good!! You can parry wolves with it and fulings (basic ones) and its saved my life several times when attacked by a wolf pack. The range is VERY useful; pity you can't throw it lol. I run with a Sword/Atgier/Mace - used to use spear early game but the hitbox and trying to find the thrown spear in foliage/grass afterwards did my head in. Also not a fan of the knives. They need to be balanced a little bit to be effective. But perhaps there are better knives than the bronze one so I may be wrong...
the Himminafl in my opinion is the best end-game weapon. Need time to run away from enemies, press Middle mouse, Surrounded by wolves in the hunted events: use middle click. It's nice seeing it in a but I reckon it's got what it takes to tier up one day... Of course I understand everyone has different weapon preferences but I find it hard to ignore the long stun that the weapon gives you (with the rested effect it can actually stunlock some of slow enemies like trolls indefinitely. (I didn't think skoll & hati would be so high lol)
I disagree on the protection staff. If you are maining magic, then this bubble is absolutely mandatory if you're exploring places like mistlands in particular. You're very squishy wearing the mage robes, and having the 700 absorb shield is a life saver. I know that the 2-3 times that I got complacent, and let my shield expire, and thought I would be all right, a large group of seekers/ticks would always sneak up on me while I was wet/out of stamina/overweight, and die because my bubble was gone. This thing is a non-negotiable for a mage. Takes forever to lvl up though, I think at my xp farm, I spent 3 weeks w/3-4 hours a day lvling it up to where it needs to be in order to be good.
Yeah I’m surprised it’s not S tier. You essentially become invincible and IF it ever pops you just cast it again. Whereas without it you have your 150 hp or whatever depending on your food, and a potion every 2 min, and if it goes, you’re dead. I’d take 850 hp / that you replenish whenever you want personally.
Spears owns all, the knockback on the Frostner is a detriment, because you never get to make the 3 hit combo, the last hit does the most dmg, the attack speed of the spear makes it superior to any other weapon, you can get behind your shield so fast after an attack, because of the short attack animation and you don't lose any dmg, because there is no combo. I carry, spear, buckler, bow and a sledge hammer in my first 4 slots, that's the only weapons I carry besides the tools for tree, ore and building. PS: Valheim really needs to add and attack speed stat to weapons, this would make it much easier for players to understand potential DPS.
Ooze bombs are probably the most underrated item in the game. You make them in the swamp, but they have usage up until the end of the game. In the mountain, they can be really useful for wolf raids or clearing frost caves, in the plains, they are incredibly useful at breaking the shields created by the shamans as they repeatedly attack, and in the mistlands, you can use them in dungeons to hit enemies through walls, which can almost kill a seeker and can kill ticks easily if you get the sneak attack bonus damage.
You should do one of these for all the armor sets too. I know progression is fairly linear with armor but now there is a lot of light armor and quite a few things have extra effects. All that could be taken into consideration vs the amount of mats and grinding needed to get them.
Therte's nothing linear about armor, its really quite simple Troll armor is possible before eikthyr, and is the only armor worth crafting until the swamp. Then root chest with iron helm/greaves, then padded then carapace. The game is really not linear at all once you start to optimize your time. Club until swamp, then iron mace, then frostner for the rest of the game Crude bow then hunstman bow for the rest of the game (reduced AOE aggro is worth) You need an Iron pick, iron axe, to be upgraded to blackmetal in the plains This is why I don't understand complaints of tedium. You don't have to make every weapon, tool, and armor set in the game to finish it.
@@noahodum9737 you might want to rethink your comment. It is very linear in progression. You want heavy armor then it's bronze - iron - wolf - black metal etc. Light armor is the same way troll beats leather root beats troll fenrir beats root and so on. Some have different effects but the same pattern dictates. I never said anything about it being tedious I was simply saying that you generally don't go for root or fenrir before troll. The progression is linear.
Love the list but it would be awesome if you color coded the icons by tech level (bronze, iron, etc) so it would make it easier to pick out what your top rated for each is.
I think you should be able to make bombs on the go (plus make them more affordable) and let there be a way to "upgrade" weaker arrows such as the fire arrow
so i dont get what u all mean by more affordable...i never used them because i didnt find them very useful and i managed to clear infested mines pretty easily with sword/frostner and shield but now i read that alot of people apparently use them and i wonder what is so hard to come by seeing as the recipes only need (leather/sap/resin/ooze/bilebag) and you get 3 and 5 of each bomb for every crafting. Just wondering because i cant imagine people lacking these things in a "standard" playthrough
I think knives were really good when they got buffed in Hearth and Home update, but swords got buffed in the Mistlands (removing the multihit penalty) so they're now the back to not being so good. I think it's hard to ignore the value of being able to do both single target dps and solid AoE cleave in one weapon.
I think you're undervaluing the deadraise and protection staff. I cleared out a sealed tower with a full mage build, summoned three skellies and gave them shields, then sent a few fireballs in each floor, let the fire tick them down while the skeletons do melee damage, then reapply shields and resummon between floors. I didnt take any damage until the boss and it was super easy
I had the same opinion as you about polearms until I gave them a proper go. I've used both swords and maces on previous playthroughs and I can easily confirm polearms are by far and away the most effective weapons in the game. Yes their early game is horrendous because they cost a ton of stamina to use and are quite slow, but once you level up the skill a bit they just become weapons of mass destruction. Maces are broken early on and became much less effective after bonemass. Swords are just consistently powerful but they're never the best choice. Polearms start off terribley but are without a doubt the best weapons for late game imo. The lightning polearm thing makes such quick work of the seeker solderis it's insane.
You didn't mention the knife cancel. Which puts it up with sword, or in some cases above sword. rapidly pressing normal attack then secondary attack will let you do both, with the increased damage multiplier on the first attack, with the stamina cost of just the secondary attack. Which makes it high damage with low stam cost. the negative is locked into secondary attack animation of secondary attack.
Great video, thanks! I wish I would've seen this when I was starting out... Then again, it's fun to find out stuff on my own and be surprised and excited.
@@OnlyCrestfallen. : yes, wisp ligths better than mistwalker for removing mist, but if you for some reason need to carry more than 300 in weight, then you will be overburdened with wisp-belt, but not with a megingjord-mistwalker-combo
I am not a huge fan of this tierlist cause you compare a stagbreaker to silver and blackmetall stuff. I would have sorted them by world lvl. So i would know what weapons you would use on a playthrough in my opinion the stagbreaker is s tier in the eiktier and elder lvl but falls of in the swamp and is useless when you get to the mountains.
Ayo, the Himminafl (lightning polearm) is definitely S tier imo. The CC on that weapon is absolutely insane. The lightning stun is also crazy. You can basically solo dungeons because of the stun mechanic.
When you talk about weapons you mention all those overlooked side effects like stamina usage and dps, but I think you also overlook some things with the pickaxe. Saving 30 seconds on repairing 3 weak pickaxes rather than portaling in the same spot back to base (portals are really cheap) sounds like saving time, but with an actual blackmetal pickaxe fully upgraded has more durability than the other 3 combined, meaning you end making the repair trip less often, and it weights less while only taking 1 inventory slot, which are quite restricted anyway. I still prefer having one versitile pickaxe is better as you can always drop the ores on the ground, hop in the portal, repair gear, go back and pack the portal up, then be on your way. You might think - well, since you carry the portal with you what difference does the inventory space and weight make if you can drop the non-ore stuff off in the base quickly since you are already there. well, the same idea as before. More space = longer adventures and less time wasted going back to base drop stuff off, just as with repairing. I hope I gave you a valueable different perspective on this topic :)
Not sure I agree with the bow being S-tier, because it needs resources to function. Especially the Frost arrows, a joy to use, but you need to farm the materials to make them. What worked for me, was to actually use the lowest tier arrows, but combined this with a sniper style play whereby you take advantage of the damage multiplier when hitting unaware mobs. Bows also come short with bosses. Even with the glorious frost arrows. And I don't count going back to a lower tier boss once you've fully upgraded a bow and have a much higher bow skill. Much better to use melee weapons, to be honest. Except for Moder, riddle that boss with arrows. There are also two mobs where bow usage gets tricky. Stone golems and Abominations. You can whittle down stone golems with a good bow, bow skill and wooden arrows, combined with lots of kiting. You could use frost or fire arrows to bring down an Abomination, but it's really a waste of resources. Melee those things, especially Abominations, and one of the reasons to learn how to parry. So in short, with a good bow (Draugur and above), good bow skill, wooden arrows, good skill (dodge, sneak, parry). But as a die hard fan of bows and bow play, I would not put bows in S tier. I appreciate the recognition though.😊
I dont think the fenris armor's boost in unarmed will bypass the 100 skill cap. Like if you get 100 in unarmed and wear the fenris armor your skill wont be 115. Itll be at 100.
About the pole armes yes you right for the high stamina cost but the range of the weapon is higher then most of melee enemies. You are able to attack first and male colosle dmg
Compared to most survival games, you can make arrows easily and in high quantities in Valheim. being able to aggro from a distance, crit unsuspecting enemies and kite mobs while shooting is huge when you really need it. The pole-arms are also great for for AOE attacks and 2-hit combos. It depends on how you think of yourself - are you a survivor / hunter or a berserker that just runs around thwomping everything melee.
Honestly tiers should be looks different like tier for enter biom and after you starting farm this biom in biom gear, hope im telling that clear. Like to enter swamp S tier weapon fire arrows, when you already farmed all gear there, good weapon for swamp will be sword (for example) But when you entering to Motians after swamp S tier will be Iron axe, when you farmed silver ore for gear best weapon will be Hammer. Sorry for my english.
This is great, definitely time to have a new and complete weapon guide with an experienced opinion. Curious whether you will have as many opinions on shields, although there are not as many of those.
Funny that I think the staff of embers is OP and just about the only weapon I use. Its ranged and has area damage which staggers enemies makes it a life saver against any groups of foes. I also use the dead raiser and shield staff with the eitr armor. Usually I eat two magic foods and one health. I do use the carapace helm just for some extra armor as the mage version offers the worst magic buff. This just seems so obvious I find it hard to believe anyone prefers doing it any other way.
yeah, I used carapace helmet and chest with eitre pants and throw a ton of fireballs out while still having 90+ armor. Dope as fuck. A little tricky to scout the mistlands because there's so much jumping to do, but overall very strong.
They rly need to fix the melee reach for spears... Its just stupid how often you can't hit an enemy that's right in front of you. And you wanna use spear exactly for the reason that it should have good reach.
Have you considered whether or not 2-hand weapons are more effective in certain situations than 1-hand weapons in terms of dps depending on how many times you can attack before backing off? If you parry a monster and you can only swing once with a 1-hand weapon and a second swing can get you hit while a 2-hand weapon can also do the same, you end up doing more dps with a 2-hand weapon because it does more damage in that one swing. This is usually the balance between 1-hand weapons vs 2-hand weapons. It matters how many attacks you can get in before backing off.
This is because most of the time, you won't be able to parry big hits for the monsters that NEED that large chunk damage to finish off and end up rolling, making the 2h worse to use overall as a lot of the times the openings are too small to really even get a singular hit in.
I know its bit old vid, but for me, razors edge is an absolute S tier for several reasons On my current playthrough i found 2 leviathans basically at the start of the game, so i could rush in for this as soon as i killed eiktyr The knife served me all the way to silver era and its on par with silver one on damage! Knives are insanely good, im glad some people agree with that. If you found levies in your world early, or maybe you checked the world with the map, you can boost your damage to the skies with it. And its also good against trolls and draugr, the main menaces of the bronze/iron era
I have no clue if it was mentioned in the video or not because I’ve not finished it but it’s important to say anyway. SWORDS ARE VERY BUGGED RN ON XBOX, most swings will miss regardless of circumstances, this is an issue many people have. Personally I’ve only used a bronze sword and didn’t make the higher tier ones since the bronze was bugged. But other people talking about it said it about other swords too.
On Xbox1s Valheim is unplayable if you Install it due to terrible Lag, it's like a slide show so you can't perry or time anything so I almost gave up and quit playing and I really liked this game alot but instead I Uninstalled it and played it using the Cloud and now it works perfectly and you don't lose anything it will Sync it all. The Swords for some reason if too close will go right thru many enemies especially early game.
I will say the Swords worked fine Mid and Late game but sometimes early game if you're super close up against a enemy mainly ones in the Black forest it seems to go right through them but afterwards they worked fine.
I know it's opinion based but the bow isn't over reated in the sense every fight is situational and depends on utilization. The bow also has a slight variety of choices in elemental damage. My first serious play through before mistlands and starting mistlands, the porcupine did me wonders everywhere haha
After more time using it, I've come around to the crossbow as a melee fighter's best friend. Once you get the aim down and a few ranks, it starts to feel like a sniper rifle. Ridiculously high burst damage at very long range. I think if I were mostly a ranged player I'd favor bow, but for me it's nice to kill off or severely weaken mobs at long range before they get close.
Krom shouls be S tier, if used by a skilled player it can deal more damage than mistwalker. It's the only weapon so far that allowed me to kill queen in less than 5 mins. It feels like a buckler and a sword combined.
back when the game originally came out i leveled unarmed to 100 by afk punching a rock. it was hilarious how much damage i could put out, havent made a set of claws though.
I was surprised by your comments on players using bows and how they arent necessary for the game. That's because i decided early on during my first playthrough that i would never fire an arrow for the whole game. If i need to hit something from range, i throw a spear. It's been super satisfying and makes me feel like i true viking just running in with a sword and board
Dropping this heads up here cause you just made me think of it talking about getting iron for the mace. If you have swamps near your main base but theres no crypts in that swamp... You can come back later with the wish bone to find buried scrap piles on the surface of the swamp
The biggest issues for game balance right now is that you just really aren't incentivized to make anything in bronze that isn't absolutely necessary going forward (1 fermenter, maybe a bronze axe, although most of us just use trolls to farm fine wood early anyways) Armor-wise the root harnesk is the king of armors right now, with the fenris legs and highest tier helm possible being the most min-max you can get, offsetting movement speed cost of using sword/shield. I don't think the metal armors have enough benefit to them to even warrant making anymore. My first playthrough I made every piece of armor, my second playthrough I skipped bronze and silver, my third playthrough I just made a root harnesk and then never worried about armor again, only upgrading when I was really getting my ass kicked. My proposal would be increase armor values across the board of the metal armors by 2, giving a real tradeoff for taking an effect instead of protection. Then, you have the issue with all 2h weapons not having an approriate damage-stamina ratio that makes them worth considering (besides Krom, because of it's block and parry potential) All they need to do here is either increase damage or decrease stamina usage or decrease animation time. (Buff the Krom to be the best weapon please IG, I'm begging you let me live out my fantasy of being a hyper-armored str build with a giant sword) Knives have fallen off immensely since they buffed swords in ML, being able to dual wield them would make them viable again as they would then become high enough DPS to offset the lack of multi-hit. Axes are mostly useless as 1h weapons, since the damage-stamina usage is just not there. Allowing us to dual wield these would make them more viable as well, or alternatively give them more stagger, or a bleed effect.
How is the default club C tier? You said it yourself that it works even up until bonemass and cheap af to upgrade... so how is it C tier? You didn't say anything negative about it. If the tierlist is purely based on dmg than the tierlist will just be organized from strongest biome to weakest lol
Protection is ranked low imo. For sacrificing 40hp or so to bubble you and your friends for 2 minutes with an extra 250+ hp and or 1 massive hit from a boss is pretty huge. But in a solo run it’s only useful when your learning the timing on parrying enemies
Mistwalker is about to be insane when ashlands comes out. Everything is fiery and undead, so frost and spirit is gonna tear, and frostner MIGHT be able to hold on a little longer, but itll be dated by three biomes, mistwalker’s higher stats and slight speed advantage is gonna carry it. Also, krom is dope as fuck and has insane damage, its so fucking fun, and the staff of embers has CRAZY blunt and fire AoE, you can melt fuling camps with it, even the stone ones.
Frostner will probably be good because of spirit and frost damage. The root chest piece is outdated by 3 biomes currently and still is one of if not the best armor in the game for that slot atm.
So the dead raiser and staff of protection actually get really good if you stack the effects together and level up the skill, at 85, that shield is worth 620 health, and when yoy cast its an AOE, so it effects teamates, including skeletons ;D I had my skeletons tank the queen, while i cast offensive spells from the back, refreshing the shield on all 3 of us as needed. The skeletons, at level 85 hit for ablittle over 100 damage, and if you can get archers, they can out in some good work, even without the shield, 2 skeletons will solo a seeker easiliy, while you fight something else. I think the biggest weakness is that those skeletons cannot traverse the mistalnds well, so yoy often have to leave them behind, bit they make good guards when mining ;D (That being said, the blood magic skill is vwry difficult to level quickly)
You can actually parry golems with a pickaxe and get the bonus stagger damage. No need to jump on their heads, though it is riskier; only time for one slow swing between attacks, and you have to work out which attacks can be parried and which have to be dodge rolled. I've only done it with the iron pickaxe while I was silver mining, but I guess the antler pickaxe would work the same way. I'd have switched the positions of the Spinesnap and Draugr Fang bows. The bone bow does more damage, but it's less durable and uses noticeably more stamina. Nothing cooler than a Draugr Fang, either. Bronze wouldn't be such an issue if you got 3 ingots from the 2 copper and 1 tin you use to make it...
Wet enemies and blobs/oozes are also vulnerable to Frost damage! That includes the player, so be careful being wet near mountains. I've been 1 shot by a drake before 😅
I for one can't 100% agree with this list. The flint spear, the torch, the bronze mace, bronze pickaxe, and the bronze atgier are all valid weapons early game on harder difficulties. If you are playing with increased raids and difficulty, skipping Eikthyr isn't a bad strat, opting for using trolls to acquire ore instead. Doing so would leave you ample time to make mid to late game progression without being raided by waves of powerful enemies when all you want to do is quickly setup base. The bronze atgier is a good option against most enemies in the black forest and can even fairly reliably stagger trolls. The bronze mace, imo, beats even bonfire when dealing with skeletons on higher difficulties. The torch is almost an essential tool for beginners, who just spawned and don't wanna be overwhelm by boars or graylings, being both a repellent and effective weapon against both. Plus it's cheep and easily acquired. Higher tier melee weapons become essentially null and void on higher difficulties (esp very hard), so magic and range are S tier on hard and very hard. The magic shield is ESP amazing! Frankly, idk why that one isn't ranked higher, even on normal. Provides a guaranteed perfect parry, regardless of poise, and can tank any amount of damage while it's up. An absolute must in non-speedrun playthroughs on higher difficulties against the Queen (and really, just exploring the Mistlands). Esp since magic provides a bar, separate of the stamina, ensuring that you can stay on the move. Imagine if they get rid of the clipping glitch (which honestly, wouldn't be hard... just would need to have it set where your character has to have foot/body room in order for it to be placed, which I hope they do patch that.), and they changed the hammers so they didn't hit through walls, then the Queen would REALLY mess you up! but this is all just my opinion. On normal mode, this list checks out.
Just watched your video on taking on the mistlands. You used the bombs so much in that for clearing out both the dungeon and Dvergr bases. I didn't see you use the Knives in that at all though. I'm not doubting your rankings, just wanting to see the knives in action. Do you have any videos where you use the Knives?
Blackmetal knife with a buckler is insane dps. I still highly prefer this over skoll&haati. Was honestly disappointed with the 2H knives. I tried so hard to like them, but you *need* a buckler in the mistlands.
İ never used bombs the main reason being it doesnt really give enough info i think as to what dmg it will do so i just feel like bombs do 0 damage and just there to be crafted for fun or smt. I dont understand like it says does 5 dmg what am i gonna do with 5 dmg
Atgeir players are a hive mind. They always open with a spin attack even on parried enemies causing them to fly away and making me miss my heavy attack 😢
As a polearm main it hurts to hear that himmin afl is just a style to you and a generally a pretty useless weapon, with its stagger rate and crowd control ability. As far as I can tell, polearms attack faster than any two handed weapon and can kill very quickly against krom and battle axes.
The problem is (I think) that 3/6 bosses have piercing resistance (including the last two) so all the piercing weapons are kind of relegated to being more for exploring and scouting than actually completing the game. Also the hitbox on sledgehammers is just way better than the atgier. Atgiers can hit everything around you, but sledgehammers hit EVERYTHNG around you. So it's just kind of outshined in the AoE department.
how can u rate atgeir weapons so low? had a new run on highest difficulty and i was shocked to know how insane the stagger is on atgeir weapons. I was perma staggering big mobs such as lox and etc. They also have really good damage output, broken secondary attack and good reach. I would without a doubt say atgeir weapons are s-tier
I would put frostner in b tier for the ff reasons... Knock back has nothing to do with staggering enemies. It's the amount of damage you do within a certain amt of time that causes them to stagger. As someone who likes to parry, i hate high knock back weapons because it prevents me from doing bonus dmg because the enemies can sometimes be pushed too far. Frostner doesn't really have that much damage unless the monster is weak to spirit. Very niche application.
Claws has very good secondary attack. it basicly stuns enemies and is very good versus 1v1s you can easy kill even 2star Fuling berserkers in plains with them.
Bruh, no... My Fists are at 57. Got the Flesh Rippers + Fenris Gear. I'm doing 100-300 damage with every hit. And altogether got a speed boost, fire resistance, 6x Parry, and 6x Backstab. I can't wait to see the damage I can do when I max my Fists and Run skills.
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I have a correction: The Jotun bane is an axe not a club. Sorry I didn’t catch that mistake on the edit. There was a lot to go through. This does not change its place in the ranking for me though. It’s already rated very high for an axe.
Indeed. For me it’s more a tool for chopping wood than a weapon. Isn’t it even better than the black metal axe?
...that's a pretty glaring error as the best axe though, handy because you'll almost always be carrying one (at least in mistlands for ygg wood).
The Mistwalker ( Mistlands sword ) does bonus Frost dmg , not Spirit :)
@@nikolabachvarov471 Actually it does both.
Frost by default, spirit at rank 2.
@@ThePetaaaaa yes im pretty sure it is better than a black metal axe, dont quote me tho
S-tier = bonfire
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Is this a meme or are they actually useful?
@@yeet9410they are usefull for killing bosses so its kind of a meme but also very good "weapon"
Campfires can also be used works great against bigger enemies
@@QucxiiLet the fires consume.
Have no fears and shed no tears, grab some beers and check these...tiers....
And bring your spear
😂 the poetic saga continues. Love it
With the rest of your gear and open your ears for my Shakespeare tier list.
I used to think the stag breaker was bad, but after doing a hardcore run recently, that weapon saved the entire run for the whole team. I was able to fend off sooooo many enemies during that fight, and kill them when I was cold, wet, and without rested bonus, being swarmed by enemies. That weapon forever has my respects, and I have to give it an A tier ranking in a multiplayer setting.
It saved my skin a good lot too I have to admit. Solo.
Stag breaker dose get out classes once you get iron but yes for that early game it’s probably one of the best weapons for crowd control
Early game I'd give it low S or high A. It makes burial chambers so much easier as well as dealing with big groups. I even use it in the swamp, mainly to kill leeches but it still came in handy.
When all else fails BONK.
Silver sword is also EXTREMELY expensive to fully upgrade. 180 Silver total takes a while to collect/get back to base/smelt and 23 Iron hurts to use up when you know you're going to need a ton of silver for the Plains biome (which I forget nearly every time).
Hugely underrated weapon is the Huntsman bow (iron level with feathers). It has super low aggro radius (4m vs 8m of other bows) which means you can either silently snipe enemies, or draw them out of a crowd if they aren't all on top of each other. Very useful in the plains to pick apart Fuling Camps and draw out Loxes from their 3 packs to take on one at a time.
why would you need a ton of silver for plains? you actually need barely any no
@@kasparscharfenberg whoops, meant to say iron in plains for the armor, stove, windmills, and spinning wheels.
Huntsman is arguably the best bow in the game. The low aggro is fantastic. But it also uses very little stamina to fire. When you get your bow skill high you can basically spam frost arrows and literally freeze enemies in place. Huntsman with frost arrows is awesome in the Mistlands.
I have consistently found silver veins within spitting distance of each other. I've found silver veins that were intersecting one another twice. I made fully upgraded sets for fun cuz I had ran out of uses for it lol.
@@raultrashlord4404 Very true. My main issue with silver is the transportation and processing of large amounts of it since it's so heavy. I'm learning that I should setup my base near a mountain rather than dealing with the long ass boat ride after you spent forever just trying to get your cart of silver down the mountain. 2 years, thousands of hours in the game and I'm still learning. XD
I was using pretty much spears only in my last playthrough. They are incredible because you can get essentially a free hit on every enemy in the game by just throwing it right before they get into melee range then you pick it up instantly and can start attacking. even better than that if it staggers the enemy.
makes killing enemies in the mountains like wolves much easier at least.
Using spears also makes farming bloodbags much easier, no threat of getting bit, and without having to spend arrows/level bow skill
@@sophieirisviel4100 kinda slow and loud, but sometimes I use the sledgehammers to kill leeches too
i threw my spear but couldnt find it anymore. after some days searching ingame i think it disappeared. f
@@sophieirisviel4100blood bags from leech? You can stab them with knives from the edge of the water without them reaching you.. that’s how I’ve always killed them, a knife on land. I didn’t even consider shooting them with a bow. Leech are one of the biggest jokes of an enemy, unless you’re swimming for whatever reason.
Spears are great, I would carry two spears, allowing me to two shot most enemies safely, and also have a backup after a bad throw
I gotta say I think you're undervaluing the fire staff a bit. Having ranged AOE is especially nice for infested clearing. Using it with combo armor (root chest, heavy helm, etir legs) makes you an unstoppable bomb throwing tank. To be fair though, all magic feels a lot weaker if you're depending on the full etir set bonus, and/or if you don't prioritize comfort to extend the rested bonus.
Both staffs are ranked very high. I over rated style points tbh. If it was on pure function I’d put them lower so I think both things even out 😂
@@NickRawcliffe Totally fair, I'm sure it comes down to a lot of personal preference and playstyle. One thing I'd ask though is how do you feel about buckler/tower shield distinction, and which would you prefer for what reasons?
@@matthewludlam5433Buckler if not using combat modifiers. Tower shields if increasing difficulty at all.
My first playthrough, I was adamant on getting the highest tier armor for each boss to be the most prepared. I think I spent nearly 100 hours on the Bronze Age (also cuz I didn't know how big copper deposits actually were). It's just such a shame that it takes so many resources to make weapons that are the worst metal weapons in the game. I know we want to motivate the player to move to better weapons, but I think the Bronze recipes should be tweaked a bit, especially given how cheap Iron is (once you find a crypt).
Bronze age is ny far the slowest iirc. I usually just spawn in some bronze after getting a couple deposits to alleviate the tedium
The triple bronze mod should seriously just be the way the game is by default. 2 copper and 1 tin for a single bronze bar is absolutely mental and the massive copper nodes take way too long to mine when you're stuck with an antler pick. Copper deposits should be small and easy to clear just like tin deposits.
@@bofa722 As I recall, you can skip some of it. You can use stagbreaker to find a bit of underground iron and the antler pick to mine it which will let you skip several steps in the bronze age, and let you build in stone, which will make black forest mining much safer.
Def feel you on bronze but if you get the pickaxe first item and have a nearby smelter you can get through it semi fast. Or, if you want to cheese without mods, have a separate world for smelting and crafting so you never need to leave the node.
@@jamesh7876 enh...The bronze pick isn't that much better than the antler one, and it costs more mined resources to repair.
One of the big benefits to the antler pick is you can repair it at a basic bench, which means building a repair/rest point at the copper node is just a matter of wood and stone.
I usually hold on to it until I get an iron pick, even if I'm not skipping the bronze age.
The torch has another advantage when using trolls to farm your fine wood and copper and that is its ability to frighten or kill mobs as they always want to show up at that party. :)
Greydwarfs will kill you by stones they through all time if they can't melee attack if you hold torch.
I love playing with the battle axe. Once you master it, feels amazing. The knock back attack is OP. It's not the greatest damage attack but it doesn't take much stam and it's fast and easy to hit with and it often staggers. The regular attack even though slow has good AOE and massive damage. Now the movement penalty is steep so you have to master putting it away when needing to run and taking back out after. But master that, plus stamina management and using the attacks in the right way, it's just incredible in my opinion.
The Krom is almost like a buckler and a sword combined into one item. With the parry block armor being 100-150 and the parry bonus being 2x I’d rate the Krom S tier. It’s been the main weapon I use to kill everything. You just parry and then swing once or twice. Also it makes you feel like you’re playing dark souls too so it gets style points and bonus points because I’m biased lol
I'd really like to see a comparison of hits to kill and stamina usage on seekers for Krom vs mistwalker and frostner, I'm trying all the mistlands weapons out right now and Krom definitely gets my vote for coolest weapon so far
Those advantages are overshadowed by 600 dmg special attack xd
also it feels like you're cleaving stuff in half like you're in Berserk
And the sound it makes oof cant get enough. Reject frostner embrace krom
i've used the stagbreaker in two playthroughs now to find silver and bypass all the iron armor and weapons. it's surprisingly easy, and you can fight bonemass with the frostner.
Took our group less than 20 mins in two combined trips to find 4 silver veins extremely quickly just by going near obsidian clumps in high places that would “look like they have silver” and now were all level 2 and some level 3 silver gear before bone mass lol
I've come to appreciate the Aetgirs for traversing the Plains, be it fighting packs of Fulings or hunting Lox.
The range and stagger is invaluable against basically all non-boss enemies, at least up to the plains.
@@Fa1seP0sitive i'm sorry, range and stagger are invaluable against non-boss enemies? i am a polearm main and polearms can stun lock lox from beginning until it dies without taking damages. its secondary attack can stagger lox instantly from the start. it can crowd control up to seekers with that attack, and you will have time to run. it can also stun lock one star berserkers.
@@reigndust Invaluable means 'extremely valuable' You're both making the same point generally.
@@DritzD27a oh I get it now, that was stupid hahaha
Atgiers are a huge force amplifier if you’re playing with 3-4 friends.
I never used the Pole arms untill a ways in the Plains and was blown away. You can kill a Lox with the lighting polearm without it even moving. It will repeatedly stun it each time you spin it. 3 time's and it done. Also Mobs of Seekers it works excellent against against, does the same as the Lox, they dont get 1 move in as long as you're using 1 top stamina food. They remain stune locked untill death. I will say it doesn't do much against the Queen though. Great video bro.
Agreed re polearms. They have pretty good parry/block too although not as good as shields obviously. I'm only at the Iron Atgeir (upgraded from Bronze) so far and its a beast and has saved me against packs of enemies (looking at you wolves lol) on many occasions.
@@roughtakes7271 pissed. I wish I never started the Game, lost over 1000 hrs. My Word is gone. Tried every save and none work. Ugh, there are no words. Miss the day's when games were complete when they came out.
@@adamking4246 Any luck with rolling back? Also what platform? Did you lose both character and world or just the world? Sorry for all the questions but just wanna help....
@@roughtakes7271 I still have my Character and whats on me but all my World saves are all Corrupt and none work. Which really Sucs, it's my all time favorite game but haven't played since. I'm on Xbox1s and played using the Cloud. I put so much time in Valheim that I just don't want to start all over. Losing my main Base and around 25 outpost and all my Inventory, Tamed animals broke my heart lol.
@@adamking4246 Well that really does suck. I hope youve kept the world saves as I hope in time there will be a conversion/fixing app that can extract the data. There are programs that allow you to transfer your Cloud Xbox saves out of the Xbox to a PC where there are more tools to fix your world save(s). Although I am Xbox through and through I do play the game on Windows Store Game Pass version and am always saving to disk as well as cloud because of the issues. Really hope you get sorted man! EDIT: The save system has been made far more efficient. No more missing meta files, etc and stuff that you cant restore.....its a lot better now.....
Thanks mate, didn't know I needed this vid, until it was uploaded.
hell yeh that's what I like to hear. yw appreciate ya.
I think a small thing about the crossbow you overlooked perhaps is how different it's stamina and ready costs are arranged vs bows. For a bow once you want to fire you have to draw for awhile and holding a bow ready to fire is taxing. For the crossbow you can swap, fire, and swap out very fast with next to no cost. All you have to do is remember to arm it before your next fight. It's not a great weapon to spam over and over but it's a pretty useful tool for responding quickly IMO.
Correct me if I’m wrong,but doesn’t the arming go away if you swap out?I just got jt yesterday and i have to re arm it every time i swap to it.
Yeah doesn't store the arrow
I was able to one-shot a troll with the Abyssal Razor. I snuck up behind it and got both sneak attack and backstab with the secondary attack (leaping plunge). It was one of the coolest experiences I've had in Valheim, particularly because you can get this weapon so early.
You put bronze atgeir almost last, it's a shame for it. Atgeir needs bronze and stamina food, but if you have it, atgeir is great. It can be used to clear troll caves, crypts, draugr spawners and wolf packs. Atgeir stuns enemies. In the mountains, you have to find a not too steep place for the fight. Atgeir can even be used to block some attacks. You say it's material intensive, but think you need no shield and than the cost disappears. Atgeir reduces speed by 5%, but one handed weapon plus shield reduces 10% of speed. Bronze atgeir may not be many ranks higher, however it is solid middle (mountains biome) game tool, not to be in the last places.
It is very risky to throw a spear in the mountains, there is a risk of losing it permanently.
For me stone axe is most the most unnecessary. Why not make just few steps further to coastline and get flint axe?
Anyway, thanks for the video and the speedrunner's opinion.
@@Lethargy514 Its also good beyond. Currently running Lv 3 Iron one and its a beast. There's a reason its expensive to upgrade; its good!! You can parry wolves with it and fulings (basic ones) and its saved my life several times when attacked by a wolf pack. The range is VERY useful; pity you can't throw it lol. I run with a Sword/Atgier/Mace - used to use spear early game but the hitbox and trying to find the thrown spear in foliage/grass afterwards did my head in. Also not a fan of the knives. They need to be balanced a little bit to be effective. But perhaps there are better knives than the bronze one so I may be wrong...
@@Lethargy514 you can see 1 star trolls pre elder although it’s quite rare and I only saw 1 outside of troll caves
the Himminafl in my opinion is the best end-game weapon. Need time to run away from enemies, press Middle mouse, Surrounded by wolves in the hunted events: use middle click. It's nice seeing it in a but I reckon it's got what it takes to tier up one day...
Of course I understand everyone has different weapon preferences but I find it hard to ignore the long stun that the weapon gives you
(with the rested effect it can actually stunlock some of slow enemies like trolls indefinitely.
(I didn't think skoll & hati would be so high lol)
I disagree on the protection staff. If you are maining magic, then this bubble is absolutely mandatory if you're exploring places like mistlands in particular. You're very squishy wearing the mage robes, and having the 700 absorb shield is a life saver. I know that the 2-3 times that I got complacent, and let my shield expire, and thought I would be all right, a large group of seekers/ticks would always sneak up on me while I was wet/out of stamina/overweight, and die because my bubble was gone. This thing is a non-negotiable for a mage. Takes forever to lvl up though, I think at my xp farm, I spent 3 weeks w/3-4 hours a day lvling it up to where it needs to be in order to be good.
Yeah I’m surprised it’s not S tier. You essentially become invincible and IF it ever pops you just cast it again. Whereas without it you have your 150 hp or whatever depending on your food, and a potion every 2 min, and if it goes, you’re dead. I’d take 850 hp / that you replenish whenever you want personally.
If it takes that long to lvl it up to be good imma pass on it
Spears owns all, the knockback on the Frostner is a detriment, because you never get to make the 3 hit combo, the last hit does the most dmg, the attack speed of the spear makes it superior to any other weapon, you can get behind your shield so fast after an attack, because of the short attack animation and you don't lose any dmg, because there is no combo.
I carry, spear, buckler, bow and a sledge hammer in my first 4 slots, that's the only weapons I carry besides the tools for tree, ore and building.
PS: Valheim really needs to add and attack speed stat to weapons, this would make it much easier for players to understand potential DPS.
Ooze bombs are probably the most underrated item in the game. You make them in the swamp, but they have usage up until the end of the game. In the mountain, they can be really useful for wolf raids or clearing frost caves, in the plains, they are incredibly useful at breaking the shields created by the shamans as they repeatedly attack, and in the mistlands, you can use them in dungeons to hit enemies through walls, which can almost kill a seeker and can kill ticks easily if you get the sneak attack bonus damage.
You should do one of these for all the armor sets too. I know progression is fairly linear with armor but now there is a lot of light armor and quite a few things have extra effects. All that could be taken into consideration vs the amount of mats and grinding needed to get them.
Therte's nothing linear about armor, its really quite simple
Troll armor is possible before eikthyr, and is the only armor worth crafting until the swamp. Then root chest with iron helm/greaves, then padded then carapace.
The game is really not linear at all once you start to optimize your time.
Club until swamp, then iron mace, then frostner for the rest of the game
Crude bow then hunstman bow for the rest of the game (reduced AOE aggro is worth)
You need an Iron pick, iron axe, to be upgraded to blackmetal in the plains
This is why I don't understand complaints of tedium. You don't have to make every weapon, tool, and armor set in the game to finish it.
@@noahodum9737 you might want to rethink your comment. It is very linear in progression. You want heavy armor then it's bronze - iron - wolf - black metal etc. Light armor is the same way troll beats leather root beats troll fenrir beats root and so on. Some have different effects but the same pattern dictates. I never said anything about it being tedious I was simply saying that you generally don't go for root or fenrir before troll. The progression is linear.
Love the list but it would be awesome if you color coded the icons by tech level (bronze, iron, etc) so it would make it easier to pick out what your top rated for each is.
I think you should be able to make bombs on the go (plus make them more affordable) and let there be a way to "upgrade" weaker arrows such as the fire arrow
so i dont get what u all mean by more affordable...i never used them because i didnt find them very useful and i managed to clear infested mines pretty easily with sword/frostner and shield but now i read that alot of people apparently use them and i wonder what is so hard to come by seeing as the recipes only need (leather/sap/resin/ooze/bilebag) and you get 3 and 5 of each bomb for every crafting. Just wondering because i cant imagine people lacking these things in a "standard" playthrough
You can farm ooze from bone mass with all the extra bones from the crypts. Just don't rush the boss and farm the "adds" .
I think knives were really good when they got buffed in Hearth and Home update, but swords got buffed in the Mistlands (removing the multihit penalty) so they're now the back to not being so good. I think it's hard to ignore the value of being able to do both single target dps and solid AoE cleave in one weapon.
I really hope a new high tier raw damage 1 handed blunt weapon is added before the biomes are finished.
Same
Crystal battle axe is my favorite weapon because it follows the rule of cool.
I think you're undervaluing the deadraise and protection staff. I cleared out a sealed tower with a full mage build, summoned three skellies and gave them shields, then sent a few fireballs in each floor, let the fire tick them down while the skeletons do melee damage, then reapply shields and resummon between floors. I didnt take any damage until the boss and it was super easy
I had the same opinion as you about polearms until I gave them a proper go. I've used both swords and maces on previous playthroughs and I can easily confirm polearms are by far and away the most effective weapons in the game. Yes their early game is horrendous because they cost a ton of stamina to use and are quite slow, but once you level up the skill a bit they just become weapons of mass destruction.
Maces are broken early on and became much less effective after bonemass.
Swords are just consistently powerful but they're never the best choice.
Polearms start off terribley but are without a doubt the best weapons for late game imo. The lightning polearm thing makes such quick work of the seeker solderis it's insane.
Any thoughts on coming back to this tier list now that mistland items can be upgraded further?
You didn't mention the knife cancel. Which puts it up with sword, or in some cases above sword. rapidly pressing normal attack then secondary attack will let you do both, with the increased damage multiplier on the first attack, with the stamina cost of just the secondary attack. Which makes it high damage with low stam cost. the negative is locked into secondary attack animation of secondary attack.
Very nice explanations, definitely gave me something to think about!
Nice I’m glad thank you
Great video, thanks! I wish I would've seen this when I was starting out... Then again, it's fun to find out stuff on my own and be surprised and excited.
Jotuns Bane is great because it not only deals poison, but it can cut down Yggdrasil wood in Mistlands.
it has the same hardness as the blackmetal axe? why have i been carrying that thing around lol
@@ArrKayCee it does indeed. I put my black metal axe in a chest and just carry Jotun Bane.
@@ShirleyTimple beautiful, appreciate the info!
@@ArrKayCee no problem
If you sneak while using a fully upgraded crossbow you can one shot most anything or severely injure it. I personally love the crossbow.
You can one shot a lot of enemies when you stagger them and use a heavy attack with krom
Mistwalker also does frost damage and slows enemies. Very much a sword version of Frostner.
yes, and as mistwalker can act as a replacement for your wisp-belt, you can put on meginggjord (if you found trader), and carry more weight around
@@Ulvehunden1970mistwalker sucks for that, wisp is 10x better literally
@@OnlyCrestfallen. : yes, wisp ligths better than mistwalker for removing mist, but if you for some reason need to carry more than 300 in weight, then you will be overburdened with wisp-belt, but not with a megingjord-mistwalker-combo
I am not a huge fan of this tierlist cause you compare a stagbreaker to silver and blackmetall stuff. I would have sorted them by world lvl. So i would know what weapons you would use on a playthrough in my opinion the stagbreaker is s tier in the eiktier and elder lvl but falls of in the swamp and is useless when you get to the mountains.
Great vid, super useful info. How about an Armour & Shield tier vid!
Ayo, the Himminafl (lightning polearm) is definitely S tier imo. The CC on that weapon is absolutely insane. The lightning stun is also crazy. You can basically solo dungeons because of the stun mechanic.
Could you do a video for an Armor Tier list as well as a Food tier list? :)
I’ll consider it, thanks for the suggestion. And thanks for watching.
When you talk about weapons you mention all those overlooked side effects like stamina usage and dps, but I think you also overlook some things with the pickaxe. Saving 30 seconds on repairing 3 weak pickaxes rather than portaling in the same spot back to base (portals are really cheap) sounds like saving time, but with an actual blackmetal pickaxe fully upgraded has more durability than the other 3 combined, meaning you end making the repair trip less often, and it weights less while only taking 1 inventory slot, which are quite restricted anyway. I still prefer having one versitile pickaxe is better as you can always drop the ores on the ground, hop in the portal, repair gear, go back and pack the portal up, then be on your way. You might think - well, since you carry the portal with you what difference does the inventory space and weight make if you can drop the non-ore stuff off in the base quickly since you are already there. well, the same idea as before. More space = longer adventures and less time wasted going back to base drop stuff off, just as with repairing. I hope I gave you a valueable different perspective on this topic :)
I find it strange nobody mentions iron mace agains stone golem, it's SO effective. Parry ~> Special atttack ~> BOOMM!
Not sure I agree with the bow being S-tier, because it needs resources to function. Especially the Frost arrows, a joy to use, but you need to farm the materials to make them.
What worked for me, was to actually use the lowest tier arrows, but combined this with a sniper style play whereby you take advantage of the damage multiplier when hitting unaware mobs.
Bows also come short with bosses. Even with the glorious frost arrows. And I don't count going back to a lower tier boss once you've fully upgraded a bow and have a much higher bow skill. Much better to use melee weapons, to be honest. Except for Moder, riddle that boss with arrows.
There are also two mobs where bow usage gets tricky. Stone golems and Abominations. You can whittle down stone golems with a good bow, bow skill and wooden arrows, combined with lots of kiting. You could use frost or fire arrows to bring down an Abomination, but it's really a waste of resources. Melee those things, especially Abominations, and one of the reasons to learn how to parry.
So in short, with a good bow (Draugur and above), good bow skill, wooden arrows, good skill (dodge, sneak, parry). But as a die hard fan of bows and bow play, I would not put bows in S tier.
I appreciate the recognition though.😊
I dont think the fenris armor's boost in unarmed will bypass the 100 skill cap. Like if you get 100 in unarmed and wear the fenris armor your skill wont be 115. Itll be at 100.
hope you are well. ty for the nice video.
I am thank you. And you’re welcome.
About the pole armes yes you right for the high stamina cost but the range of the weapon is higher then most of melee enemies. You are able to attack first and male colosle dmg
Thanks. Would have liked to see footage of the weapons being used while you talk about them though
Fire arrows should be higher, you clear sooo much of the early game with them
Compared to most survival games, you can make arrows easily and in high quantities in Valheim. being able to aggro from a distance, crit unsuspecting enemies and kite mobs while shooting is huge when you really need it. The pole-arms are also great for for AOE attacks and 2-hit combos. It depends on how you think of yourself - are you a survivor / hunter or a berserker that just runs around thwomping everything melee.
Honestly tiers should be looks different like tier for enter biom and after you starting farm this biom in biom gear, hope im telling that clear.
Like to enter swamp S tier weapon fire arrows, when you already farmed all gear there, good weapon for swamp will be sword (for example)
But when you entering to Motians after swamp S tier will be Iron axe, when you farmed silver ore for gear best weapon will be Hammer.
Sorry for my english.
how does bro only have 11k subs
Thank you. I consider this a compliment.
Fixed that. Made 11k + 1.😊
The battleaxes are quite good, why only focus on dps when dph is a thing ?
Im super confused you say that the porcupine is expensive but its only 32 iron, 10 linen, 17 needle, and 5 fine wood to fully upgrade
This is great, definitely time to have a new and complete weapon guide with an experienced opinion. Curious whether you will have as many opinions on shields, although there are not as many of those.
I love the battleaxe. Yes its slow, but the dmg and the combo is satisfying to use.
This is really good. Could you do armor tier list in same fashion?
You talk about spear hitbox being small but not the fact my sword hitbox goes right through the enemy 40% of the time
this saved me loads of time
Funny that I think the staff of embers is OP and just about the only weapon I use. Its ranged and has area damage which staggers enemies makes it a life saver against any groups of foes. I also use the dead raiser and shield staff with the eitr armor. Usually I eat two magic foods and one health. I do use the carapace helm just for some extra armor as the mage version offers the worst magic buff. This just seems so obvious I find it hard to believe anyone prefers doing it any other way.
yeah, I used carapace helmet and chest with eitre pants and throw a ton of fireballs out while still having 90+ armor. Dope as fuck. A little tricky to scout the mistlands because there's so much jumping to do, but overall very strong.
Mace+shield mixed with atgeirs change my mind.
They rly need to fix the melee reach for spears... Its just stupid how often you can't hit an enemy that's right in front of you.
And you wanna use spear exactly for the reason that it should have good reach.
Have you considered whether or not 2-hand weapons are more effective in certain situations than 1-hand weapons in terms of dps depending on how many times you can attack before backing off? If you parry a monster and you can only swing once with a 1-hand weapon and a second swing can get you hit while a 2-hand weapon can also do the same, you end up doing more dps with a 2-hand weapon because it does more damage in that one swing. This is usually the balance between 1-hand weapons vs 2-hand weapons. It matters how many attacks you can get in before backing off.
This is because most of the time, you won't be able to parry big hits for the monsters that NEED that large chunk damage to finish off and end up rolling, making the 2h worse to use overall as a lot of the times the openings are too small to really even get a singular hit in.
I know its bit old vid, but for me, razors edge is an absolute S tier for several reasons
On my current playthrough i found 2 leviathans basically at the start of the game, so i could rush in for this as soon as i killed eiktyr
The knife served me all the way to silver era and its on par with silver one on damage! Knives are insanely good, im glad some people agree with that. If you found levies in your world early, or maybe you checked the world with the map, you can boost your damage to the skies with it. And its also good against trolls and draugr, the main menaces of the bronze/iron era
I have no clue if it was mentioned in the video or not because I’ve not finished it but it’s important to say anyway. SWORDS ARE VERY BUGGED RN ON XBOX, most swings will miss regardless of circumstances, this is an issue many people have. Personally I’ve only used a bronze sword and didn’t make the higher tier ones since the bronze was bugged. But other people talking about it said it about other swords too.
I was just complaining about the silver sword last night... I just switched to the porcupine and I am much happier
On Xbox1s Valheim is unplayable if you Install it due to terrible Lag, it's like a slide show so you can't perry or time anything so I almost gave up and quit playing and I really liked this game alot but instead I Uninstalled it and played it using the Cloud and now it works perfectly and you don't lose anything it will Sync it all. The Swords for some reason if too close will go right thru many enemies especially early game.
I will say the Swords worked fine Mid and Late game but sometimes early game if you're super close up against a enemy mainly ones in the Black forest it seems to go right through them but afterwards they worked fine.
I know it's opinion based but the bow isn't over reated in the sense every fight is situational and depends on utilization. The bow also has a slight variety of choices in elemental damage. My first serious play through before mistlands and starting mistlands, the porcupine did me wonders everywhere haha
Weirdly relized I didn't have all the weapons today, and wondered just this. Noice
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After more time using it, I've come around to the crossbow as a melee fighter's best friend. Once you get the aim down and a few ranks, it starts to feel like a sniper rifle. Ridiculously high burst damage at very long range. I think if I were mostly a ranged player I'd favor bow, but for me it's nice to kill off or severely weaken mobs at long range before they get close.
Krom shouls be S tier, if used by a skilled player it can deal more damage than mistwalker.
It's the only weapon so far that allowed me to kill queen in less than 5 mins.
It feels like a buckler and a sword combined.
I would rather see a tier ranking for each stage of the game since some lower tier weapons shine at that point in the game
back when the game originally came out i leveled unarmed to 100 by afk punching a rock. it was hilarious how much damage i could put out, havent made a set of claws though.
I was surprised by your comments on players using bows and how they arent necessary for the game. That's because i decided early on during my first playthrough that i would never fire an arrow for the whole game. If i need to hit something from range, i throw a spear. It's been super satisfying and makes me feel like i true viking just running in with a sword and board
Dropping this heads up here cause you just made me think of it talking about getting iron for the mace.
If you have swamps near your main base but theres no crypts in that swamp... You can come back later with the wish bone to find buried scrap piles on the surface of the swamp
been a knife buckler user all the way through. im happy to be in A tier.
i knew they were viable :D thank you
Jotun bane is an axe, not a club.
Ah you’re right. I made a mistake there. My bad. I’ll add a pinned comment about it. Thanks for pointing that out.
The biggest issues for game balance right now is that you just really aren't incentivized to make anything in bronze that isn't absolutely necessary going forward (1 fermenter, maybe a bronze axe, although most of us just use trolls to farm fine wood early anyways)
Armor-wise the root harnesk is the king of armors right now, with the fenris legs and highest tier helm possible being the most min-max you can get, offsetting movement speed cost of using sword/shield. I don't think the metal armors have enough benefit to them to even warrant making anymore. My first playthrough I made every piece of armor, my second playthrough I skipped bronze and silver, my third playthrough I just made a root harnesk and then never worried about armor again, only upgrading when I was really getting my ass kicked. My proposal would be increase armor values across the board of the metal armors by 2, giving a real tradeoff for taking an effect instead of protection.
Then, you have the issue with all 2h weapons not having an approriate damage-stamina ratio that makes them worth considering (besides Krom, because of it's block and parry potential) All they need to do here is either increase damage or decrease stamina usage or decrease animation time. (Buff the Krom to be the best weapon please IG, I'm begging you let me live out my fantasy of being a hyper-armored str build with a giant sword)
Knives have fallen off immensely since they buffed swords in ML, being able to dual wield them would make them viable again as they would then become high enough DPS to offset the lack of multi-hit.
Axes are mostly useless as 1h weapons, since the damage-stamina usage is just not there. Allowing us to dual wield these would make them more viable as well, or alternatively give them more stagger, or a bleed effect.
How is the default club C tier? You said it yourself that it works even up until bonemass and cheap af to upgrade... so how is it C tier? You didn't say anything negative about it. If the tierlist is purely based on dmg than the tierlist will just be organized from strongest biome to weakest lol
Protection is ranked low imo. For sacrificing 40hp or so to bubble you and your friends for 2 minutes with an extra 250+ hp and or 1 massive hit from a boss is pretty huge. But in a solo run it’s only useful when your learning the timing on parrying enemies
Yeah but even if you know how to parry, you get to just faceroll and/or entirely ignore enemies if you want. Less work. Staff of protection is OP.
Mistwalker is about to be insane when ashlands comes out. Everything is fiery and undead, so frost and spirit is gonna tear, and frostner MIGHT be able to hold on a little longer, but itll be dated by three biomes, mistwalker’s higher stats and slight speed advantage is gonna carry it.
Also, krom is dope as fuck and has insane damage, its so fucking fun, and the staff of embers has CRAZY blunt and fire AoE, you can melt fuling camps with it, even the stone ones.
Frostner will probably be good because of spirit and frost damage. The root chest piece is outdated by 3 biomes currently and still is one of if not the best armor in the game for that slot atm.
How does knockback value effect staggering? I thought the stagger meter went up proportional to the damage dealt.
So the dead raiser and staff of protection actually get really good if you stack the effects together and level up the skill, at 85, that shield is worth 620 health, and when yoy cast its an AOE, so it effects teamates, including skeletons ;D
I had my skeletons tank the queen, while i cast offensive spells from the back, refreshing the shield on all 3 of us as needed.
The skeletons, at level 85 hit for ablittle over 100 damage, and if you can get archers, they can out in some good work, even without the shield, 2 skeletons will solo a seeker easiliy, while you fight something else.
I think the biggest weakness is that those skeletons cannot traverse the mistalnds well, so yoy often have to leave them behind, bit they make good guards when mining ;D
(That being said, the blood magic skill is vwry difficult to level quickly)
You can actually parry golems with a pickaxe and get the bonus stagger damage. No need to jump on their heads, though it is riskier; only time for one slow swing between attacks, and you have to work out which attacks can be parried and which have to be dodge rolled.
I've only done it with the iron pickaxe while I was silver mining, but I guess the antler pickaxe would work the same way.
I'd have switched the positions of the Spinesnap and Draugr Fang bows. The bone bow does more damage, but it's less durable and uses noticeably more stamina. Nothing cooler than a Draugr Fang, either.
Bronze wouldn't be such an issue if you got 3 ingots from the 2 copper and 1 tin you use to make it...
Honestly don’t disagree with these points tbh they’re fair
Wet enemies and blobs/oozes are also vulnerable to Frost damage! That includes the player, so be careful being wet near mountains. I've been 1 shot by a drake before 😅
I for one can't 100% agree with this list. The flint spear, the torch, the bronze mace, bronze pickaxe, and the bronze atgier are all valid weapons early game on harder difficulties. If you are playing with increased raids and difficulty, skipping Eikthyr isn't a bad strat, opting for using trolls to acquire ore instead. Doing so would leave you ample time to make mid to late game progression without being raided by waves of powerful enemies when all you want to do is quickly setup base.
The bronze atgier is a good option against most enemies in the black forest and can even fairly reliably stagger trolls. The bronze mace, imo, beats even bonfire when dealing with skeletons on higher difficulties.
The torch is almost an essential tool for beginners, who just spawned and don't wanna be overwhelm by boars or graylings, being both a repellent and effective weapon against both. Plus it's cheep and easily acquired.
Higher tier melee weapons become essentially null and void on higher difficulties (esp very hard), so magic and range are S tier on hard and very hard. The magic shield is ESP amazing! Frankly, idk why that one isn't ranked higher, even on normal. Provides a guaranteed perfect parry, regardless of poise, and can tank any amount of damage while it's up. An absolute must in non-speedrun playthroughs on higher difficulties against the Queen (and really, just exploring the Mistlands). Esp since magic provides a bar, separate of the stamina, ensuring that you can stay on the move.
Imagine if they get rid of the clipping glitch (which honestly, wouldn't be hard... just would need to have it set where your character has to have foot/body room in order for it to be placed, which I hope they do patch that.), and they changed the hammers so they didn't hit through walls, then the Queen would REALLY mess you up!
but this is all just my opinion.
On normal mode, this list checks out.
Just watched your video on taking on the mistlands. You used the bombs so much in that for clearing out both the dungeon and Dvergr bases. I didn't see you use the Knives in that at all though. I'm not doubting your rankings, just wanting to see the knives in action. Do you have any videos where you use the Knives?
Himminafl is pretty much up in S Tier since the black atgeir is pretty solid against Mistland mobs.
Blackmetal knife with a buckler is insane dps. I still highly prefer this over skoll&haati. Was honestly disappointed with the 2H knives. I tried so hard to like them, but you *need* a buckler in the mistlands.
It'd be cool to see them add a new crossbow variant for the lower tier areas
İ never used bombs the main reason being it doesnt really give enough info i think as to what dmg it will do so i just feel like bombs do 0 damage and just there to be crafted for fun or smt. I dont understand like it says does 5 dmg what am i gonna do with 5 dmg
the battleaxe secondary is good but only in multiplayer when you have a friend that can capitalize of the stun
Atgeir players are a hive mind. They always open with a spin attack even on parried enemies causing them to fly away and making me miss my heavy attack 😢
As a polearm main it hurts to hear that himmin afl is just a style to you and a generally a pretty useless weapon, with its stagger rate and crowd control ability. As far as I can tell, polearms attack faster than any two handed weapon and can kill very quickly against krom and battle axes.
The problem is (I think) that 3/6 bosses have piercing resistance (including the last two) so all the piercing weapons are kind of relegated to being more for exploring and scouting than actually completing the game. Also the hitbox on sledgehammers is just way better than the atgier. Atgiers can hit everything around you, but sledgehammers hit EVERYTHNG around you. So it's just kind of outshined in the AoE department.
this is a really good video nice
how can u rate atgeir weapons so low? had a new run on highest difficulty and i was shocked to know how insane the stagger is on atgeir weapons. I was perma staggering big mobs such as lox and etc. They also have really good damage output, broken secondary attack and good reach. I would without a doubt say atgeir weapons are s-tier
I would put frostner in b tier for the ff reasons...
Knock back has nothing to do with staggering enemies. It's the amount of damage you do within a certain amt of time that causes them to stagger.
As someone who likes to parry, i hate high knock back weapons because it prevents me from doing bonus dmg because the enemies can sometimes be pushed too far.
Frostner doesn't really have that much damage unless the monster is weak to spirit. Very niche application.
Claws has very good secondary attack. it basicly stuns enemies and is very good versus 1v1s you can easy kill even 2star Fuling berserkers in plains with them.
36:25 me looking at my character going but I wanna be one punch man
Bruh, no... My Fists are at 57. Got the Flesh Rippers + Fenris Gear. I'm doing 100-300 damage with every hit. And altogether got a speed boost, fire resistance, 6x Parry, and 6x Backstab.
I can't wait to see the damage I can do when I max my Fists and Run skills.
ok cool that you did the tier list but I'd much rather watch like all weapons randomized and you go 1 by 1