What's a great indicator of a recession? Gas almost $5 a gallon? Baby Formula shortage? Supply chain issues?..Nope..an Epi over 1K is the dead giveaway! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And possibly, in 6 to 8 months most used guitars will be selling for a fraction of what they're worth when people find out you can't eat a guitar. Just saying, possible rough times ahead. Since the pandemic hit every day seems a new issue that would have been unimaginable 3 years ago. But I digress A pretty cool guitar for sure, even for $1K
@@marions.120 sorry. How's the price of gas in California the governments responsibility? Or in this case"Joe" in particular. California is the progressives Florida.
Hi Trogly!!! Great informative video!!! HERE'S A LITTLE HELP FOR GETTING P/UP READINGS ON YOUR MULTIMETER. When a 9v battery is used in an active P/up scenario, in order to see results on your multimeter, you have to plug ¼" cable into both locations, into the guitar and into the amplifier. Voltage, ohmage, running across those printed circuit boards within active p/ups needs a complete or "closed circuit" in order to take associated readings. Depending on the capacitors used on the PCB, the amp also has to be turned on... keep the amp volume wicked low. Then you will be able to read associated p/up outputs. ANYWAY, KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER!!!!!!!!! PEACE !!!!!!!!!!!🤘🏼
I picked one of these up just over a week ago and initially I was kind of apprehensive. It's pricey for an Epiphone but I figured the value for what it is, it's not that bad at all. Then I plugged it in and started playing and I really fell in love with it. My example has the same paint issues on the horn, which is disappointing but the real bummer was that the strap button near the neck was stripped. Now fortunately my local guitar store will fix that up under warranty with no charge to me, but it's still a bummer to buy a thousand dollar guitar (more for me because I'm not in the states) and end up with some pretty obvious QC issues. All in all, I don't regret the purchase but I am not as blown away with it as I could have been.
Congrats on the new guitar. I think more than anything else this Epiphone looks to have pretty nice frets and the hardware looks great/quality. Lots of tone/options with this guitar as well. It may have a few issues, however you've a lot to work with, lots of versatility.
@@hkguitar1984 it can sing or scream and it looks the part too. Honestly I think it's a great guitar, the first time I plugged it in and played around with the voicing options on the Fishman's I realized how much potential the guitar had. Playing around with different pedals has been a lot of fun.
They are custom voiced fluence pickups You have Modern high gain sound PAF sound and a single coil sound They are exclusive to Epiphone too. Fishman fluence don't have coils. They have laminated PCB that replaces coils. This allows you have a much lower impedance which allows the pickup to capture more harmonic content.
I don't think you mentioned these, but there are 2 other differences from the regular Prophecy line. One is that all the other Prophecy guitars have a satin finish, not gloss. The other is they have asymmetrical neck profiles
Also no neck joint carve. Makes no sense on a 24 fret guitar. Still waiting for the industry to put money into playability and durable steel frets instead of these pricey Fishmans. They do too much. They try to be everything, but players have always wanted to have many guitars, not one guitar that can do everything in a so-so sort of way.
The 3 voices are meant to be modern humbucker, PAF/Burstbucker and then Cali style single coil. There isn't a voice 2 split, activating the split on voice 2 still just engages the Cali single coil.
I've been having a craze for a Jackson RR the last couple of days, and a few moments ago I thought to myself: Epiphone should release an aged (maybe even reliced) white LP Custom matching the specs of Randys. It's also 40 years ago this year we lost him way too early.
@@papasmamas1 My thought exactly, but they gotta do full size split diamond inlay and make it and (hopefully) the block inlays mother of pearl. And I know they can do it, they did it with this one, difference being that it's not block inlays.
That would be amazing but who would they get permission from to do that? I believe his mother owned all the rights to his estate but she has since passed.
Ltd is coming out with an eclipse with pretty similar specs to what you mentioned, aged white, full thickness body, fishman pickups, major rhoads vibes
This Epi Cantrell Prophecy is $1550CAD in Canada, only $50 less than a Gibson USA made LP Tribute. As more and more high end Epiphone models are showing up I wonder if Gibson is planning to kill off the US LP Tribute line entirely to maximize profit in this mid tier segment. BTW thanks to Dave and Trogly for the guitar review!
Dave , Thanks for allowing this to be a "Demo" On Trogly's Show! Beautiful Color and Great Pick- ups! all i can say is. It's Beautiful and Made to be Played!
This is an all around good guitar, very good for all types of classic Rock and Roll and it is extremely versatile. I didn't think I would like the active pickups but it turns out I was wrong. I really like the 24 jumbo fret ebony board neck. I have always liked flat top LPs, so this one having less carve on the top works for me. and I don't mind that there's no comfort cuts. because there's nothing better than a double bound LP. I'm curious if that binding glows in the dark? I'm surprised that you didn't black light that guitar. if anyone thought that Epiphone couldn't build a good guitar? this guitar should answer that question no doubt.
Nice Epi Trog. I don't get why they didn't include a Fischman Fluence rechargeable battery pack rear electronics cover. I used it to power up my origanal 1880s EMG 81-85s from out da secret hoard bin. Turned my cheeser Starshine Les Paul knock off into an addictive monster tone machine. I've never had a battery last so long neither notes on a solid body. Dude I love Epiphones. That's a boat load of axe for the premium. Good show. See ya next show playa.
@@callumhayes5043 A friend brought me a white 1985 Ibanez as a trade in for one of my exotic art guitars about 10 years ago. I took apart the Ibanez and saw that the EMG 81-85s were switched and thats why folks gave up on it. I set them EMGs aside till last year when I decided to do a little cheap experimenting. I got me one them Strarshine honey burst 59 clones off Amazon. After the usual adjustments and annotation I installed them ole EMGs with a Fishman Fluence rechargeable battery electronics cover. The vaneers arent perfect but the woodwork and fretboard are fine. The dang thing is like a video game and more fun than a set of trick dice. It was a nice break from building exotics that have to perform better or what's the point and all. That Fischman rechargeable is 100 smackaflacks. The price of them Epiphones is already steep. Still a sweet axe though.
Great feature. Shame about the QC issues. That always bothers me with all sorts of gear. As far as the split coils go, I still have an 80s Vantage Avenger with Split coils and use it to prerecord new ideas and noodle. Still sounds great.
I know a few people that have bought these. There's a problem with the binding on some of them. It was bad enough to warrant returns. The replacements were not a whole lot better. This one is not as bad as others that I've seen.
Hey, I do like the Epiphone, I rarely see white guitars, it's unique. $1049 is expensive? Now that I know it's that's reasonable I'm going to think about getting one. The Fender I just bought was $2599 and my Martin cost me $5000 so the price is great. Austin, I've been watching you for a few years now and I have notice your playing has definitely gotten better!
Yes. It is expensive for a Chinese Epiphone. The only new Epiphones worth paying over $1k are the USA models made by Gibson. There’s a reason your guitars cost what they cost. If you don’t believe it, go play one of these Chinese guitars. You will feel it instantly.
They changed with the introduction of JB black beauty. You still find some standard models with the small diamond which suggests they must just be burning up old stock. They still use smaller diamonds on v's but that's understandable so do Gibson because of limited space on the headstock.
They did a great job with these. The spec sheet on the Fluence pickups will explain them more, and they are a wonderful set. I'm impressed. Very, very impressed.
Man you are right it is CLEAR as a bell. I can even hear it on my laptop. Your playing is continuing to get cleaner too. sounds great. I like the guitar for sure and I did not before video
Yes this mostly because of the low impedance of the pickups. They can achieve this because they are active. It's a misnomer to think of active pickups as good for only high gain sounds. The whole point of the prophecy series is to get a classic shaped guitar that not only has the paf style sound you associate with Gibson but also a modern contemporary sound. The prophecy series is probably the best thing Epiphone has come up with recently. Think of it as a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I'm pretty sure Epiphone started using a full size diamond inlay on the headstock of all of their customs a couple years ago. My Epi Joe Bonamassa has the full size as well. I purchased the Cantrell Epi Wino and it also has the full size diamond headstock inlay. After a string change and setup, it's an awesome guitar. Hope you do a review of that one as well.
I'm pretty sure thats correct as my Epi LP custom silverburst has fullsize diamond headstock inlays. I put EMG 81/85s and Gotoh keystone locking tuners on it. After a set up, including a nut reset, it's come alive! IMHO $1149 is too much for an artist model Prophecy. I've got $1065 into my silverburst with straplocks and the same black case.
Jerry's WINO is the best looking Les Paul Custom to come out of Epi OR Gibson in a loooooooong time. Don't get me wrong the white is beautiful, but my WINO is insanely good. Not to mention I changed out ALL the hardware for aged high quality gold bridge, tailpiece, brass tailpiece posts, brass bridge posts, locking tuners, real bone nut, SwitchCraft toggle, treble bleed and Bare Knuckle Vitamin series capacitors. So needless to say a BEAST!!!
It arrived safe and sound today, thank you very much! And thanks for not putting those stickers on it lol!! I got this one because I like the way it looked in the photos. I have to say, those photos do not do it justice!! I already have a Prophecy V and absolutely love it. It's a real beast when I put it through my Mark V 5 : 25. With this I will have more options because the Vs and Futuras only have 2 push pull pots, so both pickups have to have the same voicing on and split or not. Thank you for the honest review!
Those Fishman pickups, it’s actually a stack of PCBs in there, all the copper tracing replaces the traditional wire wrap, but there’s alternate pathways. The split and voicing switching just changes which PCB path is used. (Usually it’s vintage voiced and modern voiced).
Active pup splitting is better bc it cuts one coil off so it is an actual single coil unlike a tapped or split mode on passives and EMG has been doing this since 1990ish when the 89 came out.
@@hkguitar1984 then you must try these they have a PAF style sound option that sounds every bit of awesome as you'd imagine. One thing active pickups have over passive pickups is low impedance which allows them to pick up more harmonic content. So definitely check out the prophecy series the flame tops and bursts are to die for the are gorgeous. My favourite is the aged tiger burst.
@@SionynJones I can certainly appreciate the positives you've listed, however a poly guitar just isn't for me. Some of my guitars I've kept and played for 30 years or more. The poly finished instruments age terribly. All of my lacquer finished guitars have aged beautifully and really reflect my use and wear in a way I find very appealing. Its all about personal preferences. I'm not saying anything negative about the Epiphone instruments, I'm just saying after keeping and playing a single instrument for over 30 years I personally prefer the lacquer finish.
The other Prophecy's are amazing. Satin finish (so neck as well), and the belly cut is awesome. But the fact that this comes with a case makes the price only $100 for a signature. So if I was a big fan, it's worth it. But for playing, the more modern Prophecy's DOMINATE!
I was hoping to see that binding under the black light. it's probably normal creme like you said, but it's the contrast that we notice. the brushed hardware is one of the main features that creates the unique look on this one. and using a white nut would require a very white one, so black works better, no yellowing. it's the small details that count. obviously the pickup covers look great but I could live without the Fishman rig underneath. on imports they are selective about where they put the time in, and the routs are not detailed much at all. but it's really something nice.
gotta say as a bassist, i think this is a fantasic sounding guitar in all the modes, i dont understand why some guitarists are reluctant to fancy electronics, as you said roll the volume for standard humbucker, up the volume in single coil, max volume for standard active sound
The intonation on this guitar sounds pretty darn good. Those fishman pickups are also kinda a cheat code huh? Definitely trying to get a set in one of my next guitars!
I have a mid 90's Epiphone Les Paul with a natural birds eyes top and with the yeas of being in the case it turned dark amber, beautiful. I wish I could share a picture of her.
I have space for one more guitar and do not want to regret buy, how would you compare this to a Gibson studio? I'm down to getting one but not sure which
I would love if you could document the epiphone wino as well, i'm thinking about getting one but none of the reviews so far shows the stuff that i like to see lol
I love how much mileage not the sticker bombing of the Rampage but the leftover sticker parts got, in the fullness of time. I mean, a set of stickers without the stickers got to be the inlays.
What I think the big thing about a Custom is binding on the headstock. I love binding on the headstock because when it's on the neck only, it diminishes the headstock. I actually prefer the Studio because there's no binding, so the guitar looks balanced. For what you get on that Epiphone Custom, that's not a bad price! I love ebony fretboards too!!
I had 2 Gibson's. Les Paul studio, special. Junk garbage. I traded them in. Bought Epi sg prophecy,and Les Paul prophy. Also bought Epi sg standard .love them absolutely blown away. So I bought the Epi Rosa Corso, zakk Wylde, and I'm gonna have to grab this one two
Good video, as detailed as ever, thanks. Anyone else thinking that Gibson - Epiphone's owner - is starting to raise the profile of Epiphone with increasingly more expensive model releases? Perhaps this is so that they can raise Gibson prices while still maintaining the appearance of a nice big gap between the two companies' price points. Effectively, it's a way to disguise Gibson's already-inflated, and still inflating, prices.
Actually, ALL of the new customs from the prophecy and the original collection , have the Large diamond inlay on the headstocks. I think the dealers just haven’t changed the stock photos online. All of the Epiphone customs that I have seen in person all have the large split diamond 🤘🏻
Trogly, I love your videos and the time you take and quality is fantastic…BUT.. when your doing the playing demos, the difference in volume between the guitar and your voice is substantial and I find myself having to adjust the volume all the time. Just food for thought. Keep up the good work.
My Epiphone Les Paul custom prophecy plus has mother of pearl and abalone whole keyboard and headstock along with quilted heritage cherry sunburst came with hardcase $750 in 2017
Wow Trog, you've done a few platinum white Gibson and Epiphone models over the last 18 months. Are thru a mounting trend among signature editions for some reason? Here's a potentially radical request. How frequently have you reviewed a Rickenbacker 360 or 360/12? Bring it, Trog!
I own a red tiger Prophecy LP. Not sure what you mean by the "custom" emblem being part of the reason for the upcharge because the regular Prophecies all have that same emblem. The inlays on the regular ones also have real abslone. Aside from the back binding (and subsequent loss of belly cut....which I think is a major downer), this is just a Prophecy LP with Jerry's name and aesthetic and a case. I'm actually disappointed because for me that's not worth the extra money. And people are right when they say this doesn't look like something he'd play. I've seen him play 8x, most recently 2 weeks ago and he didn't play anything that looks like this ( or the Wino for that matter). He played several LPs, but nothing like this. That said, I absolutely love my Prophecy and thought it's totally worth the money, and I couldn't find a single QC issue other than needing a setup.
I sound like a broken record...I love Epiphone. The only negative I have for them in the 12 guitars I've purchased since 2020 is.......one has frets that needed a fret file. One. Was leaning towards the Wino with this one, but hmmm......
The way the finish goes along the binding at the lower horn has always made me wonder if it's actually paint, it looks like a cut off sheet of paper or vinyl, been like that for ages.
Since its a poly finish they don't scrape the binding like a lacquer Gibson finish, its taped off before the poly color coat is sprayed. It may be that they have pre-cut adhesive binding masks they use for finishing when the color coat is applied.
Usually when I buy Les Paul's I have to modernize them like this Les Paul. Obviously I not into old version Les Paul's. I think it's better to have all the modern updates with the same style and sound. If you want old style then buy a old Les Paul.
When justifying the price, you’ve got to mention the Cantrell Custom Carve of the neck! I think it’s a reasonable price, by far. That custom case alone would cost $200+
That white Epiphone looks nice, but the sound i just don't like, the Wino sounds good. I wanted that white one but the way it sounds i just can't do it. Jerry Cantrell always played g&l rampage and every video I looked at the rampage sounds awesome vs the white one that doesn't, it's a shame. These days I don't care much to give money to China. Nice looking guitar though.
Are the dimensions of the body of the epiphone prophecy les pauls different to normal les pauls? I can see that the neck is connecting to the body at the 18th fret instead of the 16th fret, and you have 24 frets, and something just looks different on the body but maybe my eyes are just fooling me
The bridge and tail are moved up towards headstock to allow 2 more frets in the same 24 3/4" of scale length. This puts the pickups closer together and effectively moves the neck pup closer to the bridge for a slightly brighter sound.
I would say around $150 value for the case but I don’t think that price is out of the question I paid 1k for an epiphone les Paul custom and a nice case so not to far off and this one is nicer
I am an Epiphone lover through and through … I get what he is saying on how spec wise this Is a GREAT guitar. It just seems like they said here is the Matt Heafy model and let’s put a different fretboard on this just plain paper white guitar and call it a day , oh and don’t forget to change the logos. For the price I would have expected a little more.
Hey Austin did you notice that the split diamond headstock inlay is the Gibson one and not the smaller Epiphone one? Wish I had the larger one on my Brent Hinds Flying V Custom.
This is one of the coolest guitars you’ve demonstrated on this channel. Every single tone sounded full, round and powerful and the instrument looks rad. There are absolutely no compromises with this guitar. And the price actually is a great deal. I’d buy this instead of a Gibson.
Just bought Flying V Prophecy and i love it, actually i tried the SGs and they were horrible, i dont know why but i tried 2 of them and they sounded way worse than the V and the Les Pauls.
Weird so on the fishman fluence pickups i have there is a pin quick connect on the board on the back of them. you can wire it with all those options plus a highpass filter thing
What's a great indicator of a recession? Gas almost $5 a gallon? Baby Formula shortage? Supply chain issues?..Nope..an Epi over 1K is the dead giveaway! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Obviously (?) you’re not in California…$7.00 a gallon. I’m have to get rid of some of my guitars just to pay the bills. Thanks Joe!
@@marions.120 Ouch!
And possibly, in 6 to 8 months most used guitars will be selling for a fraction of what they're worth when people find out you can't eat a guitar. Just saying, possible rough times ahead. Since the pandemic hit every day seems a new issue that would have been unimaginable 3 years ago. But I digress
A pretty cool guitar for sure, even for $1K
@@hkguitar1984 -But they do make great bar-b-que wood? 🔥🎸
@@marions.120 sorry. How's the price of gas in California the governments responsibility? Or in this case"Joe" in particular. California is the progressives Florida.
Hi Trogly!!! Great informative video!!! HERE'S A LITTLE HELP FOR GETTING P/UP READINGS ON YOUR MULTIMETER. When a 9v battery is used in an active P/up scenario, in order to see results on your multimeter, you have to plug ¼" cable into both locations, into the guitar and into the amplifier. Voltage, ohmage, running across those printed circuit boards within active p/ups needs a complete or "closed circuit" in order to take associated readings. Depending on the capacitors used on the PCB, the amp also has to be turned on... keep the amp volume wicked low. Then you will be able to read associated p/up outputs.
ANYWAY, KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER!!!!!!!!!
PEACE !!!!!!!!!!!🤘🏼
I picked one of these up just over a week ago and initially I was kind of apprehensive. It's pricey for an Epiphone but I figured the value for what it is, it's not that bad at all. Then I plugged it in and started playing and I really fell in love with it. My example has the same paint issues on the horn, which is disappointing but the real bummer was that the strap button near the neck was stripped. Now fortunately my local guitar store will fix that up under warranty with no charge to me, but it's still a bummer to buy a thousand dollar guitar (more for me because I'm not in the states) and end up with some pretty obvious QC issues. All in all, I don't regret the purchase but I am not as blown away with it as I could have been.
Congrats on the new guitar.
I think more than anything else this Epiphone looks to have pretty nice frets and the hardware looks great/quality.
Lots of tone/options with this guitar as well. It may have a few issues, however you've a lot to work with, lots of versatility.
@@hkguitar1984..I'd really like to strike an open G through my stack amp on this bad boy and let'r ring! Lol😄
Quality control
@@wesleyAlan9179 EXACTLY, and let that "G" ring out into feedback. +1, great idea Sir
@@hkguitar1984 it can sing or scream and it looks the part too. Honestly I think it's a great guitar, the first time I plugged it in and played around with the voicing options on the Fishman's I realized how much potential the guitar had. Playing around with different pedals has been a lot of fun.
They are custom voiced fluence pickups
You have
Modern high gain sound
PAF sound
and a single coil sound
They are exclusive to Epiphone too. Fishman fluence don't have coils. They have laminated PCB that replaces coils. This allows you have a much lower impedance which allows the pickup to capture more harmonic content.
If you're talking to the dude who is demoing the instruments you're wasting your time - he doesn't learn.
I don't think you mentioned these, but there are 2 other differences from the regular Prophecy line. One is that all the other Prophecy guitars have a satin finish, not gloss. The other is they have asymmetrical neck profiles
Also no neck joint carve. Makes no sense on a 24 fret guitar. Still waiting for the industry to put money into playability and durable steel frets instead of these pricey Fishmans. They do too much. They try to be everything, but players have always wanted to have many guitars, not one guitar that can do everything in a so-so sort of way.
The 3 voices are meant to be modern humbucker, PAF/Burstbucker and then Cali style single coil. There isn't a voice 2 split, activating the split on voice 2 still just engages the Cali single coil.
Yep, I noticed that to I was gonna say something
I got my Wino version today. Had it plekked for the hell of it and it's as good as any of my Gibson's.
I've been having a craze for a Jackson RR the last couple of days, and a few moments ago I thought to myself: Epiphone should release an aged (maybe even reliced) white LP Custom matching the specs of Randys. It's also 40 years ago this year we lost him way too early.
That would sell like hot cakes !!
@@papasmamas1 My thought exactly, but they gotta do full size split diamond inlay and make it and (hopefully) the block inlays mother of pearl.
And I know they can do it, they did it with this one, difference being that it's not block inlays.
That would be amazing but who would they get permission from to do that? I believe his mother owned all the rights to his estate but she has since passed.
@@robotjeans it’s likely his brother, Kelle Rhoads
Ltd is coming out with an eclipse with pretty similar specs to what you mentioned, aged white, full thickness body, fishman pickups, major rhoads vibes
I saw Jerry Cantrell live recently and he played this Epiphone model onstage for a song. Cool guitar!
Thanks Dave for letting us check out your new guitar🤘
Who's Dave?
Thanks Dave, congrats on the new guitar
This Epi Cantrell Prophecy is $1550CAD in Canada, only $50 less than a Gibson USA made LP Tribute. As more and more high end Epiphone models are showing up I wonder if Gibson is planning to kill off the US LP Tribute line entirely to maximize profit in this mid tier segment. BTW thanks to Dave and Trogly for the guitar review!
Dave , Thanks for allowing this to be a "Demo" On Trogly's Show! Beautiful Color and Great Pick- ups! all i can say is. It's Beautiful and Made to be Played!
This is an all around good guitar, very good for all types of classic Rock and Roll and it is extremely versatile. I didn't think I would like the active pickups but it turns out I was wrong. I really like the 24 jumbo fret ebony board neck. I have always liked flat top LPs, so this one having less carve on the top works for me. and I don't mind that there's no comfort cuts. because there's nothing better than a double bound LP. I'm curious if that binding glows in the dark? I'm surprised that you didn't black light that guitar. if anyone thought that Epiphone couldn't build a good guitar? this guitar should answer that question no doubt.
The binding doesn't glow, but it sort of looks like it would. it's more like ivory on white in person.
the fact that he not only shows the guitars , he takes them apart and plays them , YOU ROCK !!!
Nice Epi Trog. I don't get why they didn't include a Fischman Fluence rechargeable battery pack rear electronics cover. I used it to power up my origanal 1880s EMG 81-85s from out da secret hoard bin. Turned my cheeser Starshine Les Paul knock off into an addictive monster tone machine. I've never had a battery last so long neither notes on a solid body. Dude I love Epiphones. That's a boat load of axe for the premium. Good show. See ya next show playa.
Doubt that came stock from the factory with EMGs in the 1880s lmao
@@callumhayes5043 A friend brought me a white 1985 Ibanez as a trade in for one of my exotic art guitars about 10 years ago. I took apart the Ibanez and saw that the EMG 81-85s were switched and thats why folks gave up on it. I set them EMGs aside till last year when I decided to do a little cheap experimenting. I got me one them Strarshine honey burst 59 clones off Amazon. After the usual adjustments and annotation I installed them ole EMGs with a Fishman Fluence rechargeable battery electronics cover. The vaneers arent perfect but the woodwork and fretboard are fine. The dang thing is like a video game and more fun than a set of trick dice. It was a nice break from building exotics that have to perform better or what's the point and all. That Fischman rechargeable is 100 smackaflacks. The price of them Epiphones is already steep. Still a sweet axe though.
Great feature. Shame about the QC issues. That always bothers me with all sorts of gear. As far as the split coils go, I still have an 80s Vantage Avenger with Split coils and use it to prerecord new ideas and noodle. Still sounds great.
because the Epiphone lines still in china,so you know what I'm saying
Woot woot Trogly's 🙌
I know a few people that have bought these. There's a problem with the binding on some of them. It was bad enough to warrant returns. The replacements were not a whole lot better. This one is not as bad as others that I've seen.
The tuners,pickups,tail piece.knobs , looks great in that brushed nickel look. on white looks great.
Hey, I do like the Epiphone, I rarely see white guitars, it's unique. $1049 is expensive? Now that I know it's that's reasonable I'm going to think about getting one. The Fender I just bought was $2599 and my Martin cost me $5000 so the price is great.
Austin, I've been watching you for a few years now and I have notice your playing has definitely gotten better!
"Nice, you've pinpointed the problem. Step 2 is washing it off"
For what you get is a good value. And it will retain its value more than other epiphone modes. In my opinion
Yes. It is expensive for a Chinese Epiphone. The only new Epiphones worth paying over $1k are the USA models made by Gibson. There’s a reason your guitars cost what they cost. If you don’t believe it, go play one of these Chinese guitars. You will feel it instantly.
Not really considering the prophecy series is 899 across the board. You're essentially paying the artist tax.
Rip off with issues
10:12 the split diamond inlay is only small in stock photos. My normal LPC has the split diamond inlay in the Gibson size as well.
They changed with the introduction of JB black beauty. You still find some standard models with the small diamond which suggests they must just be burning up old stock.
They still use smaller diamonds on v's but that's understandable so do Gibson because of limited space on the headstock.
I was really hoping for the piezo like the Lifeson one. Still looks cool.
They did a great job with these. The spec sheet on the Fluence pickups will explain them more, and they are a wonderful set. I'm impressed. Very, very impressed.
Beautiful guitar! Great sounds, clarity, and versatility.
Congratulations Dave! Great looking guitar. Cool video Trogly.
Man you are right it is CLEAR as a bell. I can even hear it on my laptop. Your playing is continuing to get cleaner too. sounds great. I like the guitar for sure and I did not before video
Yes this mostly because of the low impedance of the pickups. They can achieve this because they are active.
It's a misnomer to think of active pickups as good for only high gain sounds. The whole point of the prophecy series is to get a classic shaped guitar that not only has the paf style sound you associate with Gibson but also a modern contemporary sound. The prophecy series is probably the best thing Epiphone has come up with recently.
Think of it as a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I’ve seen him play it live
I'm pretty sure Epiphone started using a full size diamond inlay on the headstock of all of their customs a couple years ago. My Epi Joe Bonamassa has the full size as well. I purchased the Cantrell Epi Wino and it also has the full size diamond headstock inlay. After a string change and setup, it's an awesome guitar. Hope you do a review of that one as well.
I'm pretty sure thats correct as my Epi LP custom silverburst has fullsize diamond headstock inlays. I put EMG 81/85s and Gotoh keystone locking tuners on it. After a set up, including a nut reset, it's come alive! IMHO $1149 is too much for an artist model Prophecy. I've got $1065 into my silverburst with straplocks and the same black case.
@@andrewbecker3700 Cool amd agreed!
Dude: What happened to the UV light?
Jerry's WINO is the best looking Les Paul Custom to come out of Epi OR Gibson in a loooooooong time. Don't get me wrong the white is beautiful, but my WINO is insanely good. Not to mention I changed out ALL the hardware for aged high quality gold bridge, tailpiece, brass tailpiece posts, brass bridge posts, locking tuners, real bone nut, SwitchCraft toggle, treble bleed and Bare Knuckle Vitamin series capacitors. So needless to say a BEAST!!!
Is the case a wood ply or plastic? Great demo!
It arrived safe and sound today, thank you very much! And thanks for not putting those stickers on it lol!! I got this one because I like the way it looked in the photos. I have to say, those photos do not do it justice!! I already have a Prophecy V and absolutely love it. It's a real beast when I put it through my Mark V 5 : 25. With this I will have more options because the Vs and Futuras only have 2 push pull pots, so both pickups have to have the same voicing on and split or not.
Thank you for the honest review!
People always forget about the wholesale retail thing regarding prices.
Just placed my order for my JC Epi Les Paul. Can't wait to get it in my hands.
Will you be doing a review of the Slash Epiphone models? Also great video, as always!
Those Fishman pickups, it’s actually a stack of PCBs in there, all the copper tracing replaces the traditional wire wrap, but there’s alternate pathways. The split and voicing switching just changes which PCB path is used. (Usually it’s vintage voiced and modern voiced).
WOULD YOU CHANGE OUT THE PUPS? THANKS
Hold up if these pickups are active how can they split coil i thought you couldnt do that ona active pickups
Active pup splitting is better bc it cuts one coil off so it is an actual single coil unlike a tapped or split mode on passives and EMG has been doing this since 1990ish when the 89 came out.
I love this instrument. Beautiful color and great pups.
I'm strictly a passive kind of guy.
That said, I can still appreciate everything active pickups offer, and this Epiphone is no exception.
@@hkguitar1984 then you must try these they have a PAF style sound option that sounds every bit of awesome as you'd imagine.
One thing active pickups have over passive pickups is low impedance which allows them to pick up more harmonic content.
So definitely check out the prophecy series the flame tops and bursts are to die for the are gorgeous. My favourite is the aged tiger burst.
@@SionynJones I can certainly appreciate the positives you've listed, however a poly guitar just isn't for me. Some of my guitars I've kept and played for 30 years or more.
The poly finished instruments age terribly. All of my lacquer finished guitars have aged beautifully and really reflect my use and wear in a way I find very appealing.
Its all about personal preferences. I'm not saying anything negative about the Epiphone instruments, I'm just saying after keeping and playing a single instrument for over 30 years I personally prefer the lacquer finish.
Now can you review the wino? I am loving all new epiphone LP. Looking forward to the Heafy models and the Adam Jones too.
The other Prophecy's are amazing. Satin finish (so neck as well), and the belly cut is awesome. But the fact that this comes with a case makes the price only $100 for a signature. So if I was a big fan, it's worth it. But for playing, the more modern Prophecy's DOMINATE!
I like it. Clean, and easy on the eyes with the white body and brushed nickel hardware, it all matches well with the inlays and logos.
I was hoping to see that binding under the black light. it's probably normal creme like you said, but it's the contrast that we notice. the brushed hardware is one of the main features that creates the unique look on this one. and using a white nut would require a very white one, so black works better, no yellowing. it's the small details that count. obviously the pickup covers look great but I could live without the Fishman rig underneath. on imports they are selective about where they put the time in, and the routs are not detailed much at all. but it's really something nice.
Any chance of reviewing the epiphone sg custom? Definitely interested in your thoughts on that one.
Fantastic guitar well explained as always! Way to go my man, way to go!!!
gotta say as a bassist, i think this is a fantasic sounding guitar in all the modes, i dont understand why some guitarists are reluctant to fancy electronics, as you said roll the volume for standard humbucker, up the volume in single coil, max volume for standard active sound
please do a comparative video of the wino les pauls epiphone and gibson
How is this model different than the regular Epiphone Prophecy Les Pauls?
Does this stay in tune better than a Gibson? Less of a Headstock Angle?
which one guitar is worth the money....alex lifeson or the Jerry Cantrell epiphones?
The intonation on this guitar sounds pretty darn good. Those fishman pickups are also kinda a cheat code huh? Definitely trying to get a set in one of my next guitars!
I have a mid 90's Epiphone Les Paul with a natural birds eyes top and with the yeas of being in the case it turned dark amber, beautiful. I wish I could share a picture of her.
How about if you compare it with the new matt Heafy one?
I have space for one more guitar and do not want to regret buy, how would you compare this to a Gibson studio? I'm down to getting one but not sure which
Literally got my epiphone wino today! so happy with it!
I would love if you could document the epiphone wino as well, i'm thinking about getting one but none of the reviews so far shows the stuff that i like to see lol
Bought this with my marshall mg 30 , and thos thing sounds really nice. Sound better than my epiphone 1959
I love how much mileage not the sticker bombing of the Rampage but the leftover sticker parts got, in the fullness of time.
I mean, a set of stickers without the stickers got to be the inlays.
Huh?
What are you talking about?
What I think the big thing about a Custom is binding on the headstock. I love binding on the headstock because when it's on the neck only, it diminishes the headstock. I actually prefer the Studio because there's no binding, so the guitar looks balanced. For what you get on that Epiphone Custom, that's not a bad price! I love ebony fretboards too!!
I like the fact that they got rid of those cheap plastic control knobs. I replace all of my knobs with metal knobs.
Just got my Epiphone extura... Sounds great
I had 2 Gibson's. Les Paul studio, special. Junk garbage. I traded them in. Bought Epi sg prophecy,and Les Paul prophy. Also bought Epi sg standard .love them absolutely blown away. So I bought the Epi Rosa Corso, zakk Wylde, and I'm gonna have to grab this one two
Good video, as detailed as ever, thanks. Anyone else thinking that Gibson - Epiphone's owner - is starting to raise the profile of Epiphone with increasingly more expensive model releases? Perhaps this is so that they can raise Gibson prices while still maintaining the appearance of a nice big gap between the two companies' price points. Effectively, it's a way to disguise Gibson's already-inflated, and still inflating, prices.
Looks pretty awesome.....I love all of my Epiphones....do you think that Ebony fretboard is dyed.....looks extremely dark.
I think they are custom Jerry Fishman pickups
i wish I would have been more picky about my guitars over the years , Troglys is very informative and he is picky , I like that , thanks !!!
Actually, ALL of the new customs from the prophecy and the original collection , have the Large diamond inlay on the headstocks. I think the dealers just haven’t changed the stock photos online. All of the Epiphone customs that I have seen in person all have the large split diamond 🤘🏻
Love the fact that you played a DIO riff 🙂
Trogly, I love your videos and the time you take and quality is fantastic…BUT.. when your doing the playing demos, the difference in volume between the guitar and your voice is substantial and I find myself having to adjust the volume all the time. Just food for thought. Keep up the good work.
I use loudness equalisation on my pc to offset it, would be nice if I didn't have to though
I always leave before the playing demo
They always sounds out of tune
My Epiphone Les Paul custom prophecy plus has mother of pearl and abalone whole keyboard and headstock along with quilted heritage cherry sunburst came with hardcase $750 in 2017
Wow Trog, you've done a few platinum white Gibson and Epiphone models over the last 18 months. Are thru a mounting trend among signature editions for some reason?
Here's a potentially radical request. How frequently have you reviewed a Rickenbacker 360 or 360/12? Bring it, Trog!
I own a red tiger Prophecy LP. Not sure what you mean by the "custom" emblem being part of the reason for the upcharge because the regular Prophecies all have that same emblem. The inlays on the regular ones also have real abslone. Aside from the back binding (and subsequent loss of belly cut....which I think is a major downer), this is just a Prophecy LP with Jerry's name and aesthetic and a case. I'm actually disappointed because for me that's not worth the extra money. And people are right when they say this doesn't look like something he'd play. I've seen him play 8x, most recently 2 weeks ago and he didn't play anything that looks like this ( or the Wino for that matter). He played several LPs, but nothing like this.
That said, I absolutely love my Prophecy and thought it's totally worth the money, and I couldn't find a single QC issue other than needing a setup.
I sound like a broken record...I love Epiphone. The only negative I have for them in the 12 guitars I've purchased since 2020 is.......one has frets that needed a fret file. One. Was leaning towards the Wino with this one, but hmmm......
This white is fine as hell
@@sgt.grinch3299 Preach!
Why do you buy 6 guitars a year?
@@jcout25 I have a bit of a problem lol.
Best Epi . Hands down is the Johnny A guitar!
Can't argue with you, Gibson or Epiphone the Johnny A guitars are beautiful.
The back switch controls seem like it backs off the output to sound like passive pickups. It may switch between active and passive pickups...
Voice 1 is an active sounding pickup, voice 2 is a passive sounding pickup.
Is it made in the USA?
LOL..............nope
It is way over priced!
China
The way the finish goes along the binding at the lower horn has always made me wonder if it's actually paint, it looks like a cut off sheet of paper or vinyl, been like that for ages.
Since its a poly finish they don't scrape the binding like a lacquer Gibson finish, its taped off before the poly color coat is sprayed.
It may be that they have pre-cut adhesive binding masks they use for finishing when the color coat is applied.
My silverburst custom looks exactly the same. Must be some kind of template they put over the top when they shoot it?
Usually when I buy Les Paul's I have to modernize them like this Les Paul. Obviously I not into old version Les Paul's. I think it's better to have all the modern updates with the same style and sound. If you want old style then buy a old Les Paul.
When justifying the price, you’ve got to mention the Cantrell Custom Carve of the neck! I think it’s a reasonable price, by far. That custom case alone would cost $200+
That white Epiphone looks nice, but the sound i just don't like, the Wino sounds good. I wanted that white one but the way it sounds i just can't do it. Jerry Cantrell always played g&l rampage and every video I looked at the rampage sounds awesome vs the white one that doesn't, it's a shame. These days I don't care much to give money to China. Nice looking guitar though.
Are the dimensions of the body of the epiphone prophecy les pauls different to normal les pauls? I can see that the neck is connecting to the body at the 18th fret instead of the 16th fret, and you have 24 frets, and something just looks different on the body but maybe my eyes are just fooling me
The bridge and tail are moved up towards headstock to allow 2 more frets in the same 24 3/4" of scale length. This puts the pickups closer together and effectively moves the neck pup closer to the bridge for a slightly brighter sound.
DAMN! That is a SWEET looking axe right there now. Digging the hell out of it.
I would say around $150 value for the case but I don’t think that price is out of the question I paid 1k for an epiphone les Paul custom and a nice case so not to far off and this one is nicer
Why is the bridge so close to the pickup
Now if they would go with locking tuners without plastic tuner knob would make this guitar perfect 🥰
I believe this has metal tuner knobs.
Does anyone know if the neck carve and depth on the Epi "wino" is the same as the this Prophecy?
I am an Epiphone lover through and through … I get what he is saying on how spec wise this Is a GREAT guitar. It just seems like they said here is the Matt Heafy model and let’s put a different fretboard on this just plain paper white guitar and call it a day , oh and don’t forget to change the logos. For the price I would have expected a little more.
Hey Austin did you notice that the split diamond headstock inlay is the Gibson one and not the smaller Epiphone one? Wish I had the larger one on my Brent Hinds Flying V Custom.
It's normal for Vs to have smaller diamonds because of the space.
This is one of the coolest guitars you’ve demonstrated on this channel. Every single tone sounded full, round and powerful and the instrument looks rad. There are absolutely no compromises with this guitar. And the price actually is a great deal. I’d buy this instead of a Gibson.
The second voicing is supposed to be a “passive” pickup. The first one is a more traditional active style voicing.
why would you need to turn the volume down ? that's why you have 2 other voicings...
Don’t care about the rear binding…I WANT THE COMFORT CARVE AND THE ACCESS HEEL!!! BOOOO!!!
Just bought Flying V Prophecy and i love it, actually i tried the SGs and they were horrible, i dont know why but i tried 2 of them and they sounded way worse than the V and the Les Pauls.
Weird so on the fishman fluence pickups i have there is a pin quick connect on the board on the back of them. you can wire it with all those options plus a highpass filter thing
It's because they are exclusive fluence pickups made for Epiphone.
Those fret markers are from the design on his g&l back in the day.
Looks pretty modern for an old school guy like Jerry
Trogly, what did you mean wrapping a tuning peg all about speed?
Anyone know why the bridge pickup on the prophecy models is always slightly higher up the body/closer to the neck pickup than a regular model?