coi is one of those artists who would have benefited from staying unsigned for longer in order to build her fanbase. cuz who does she appeal to? seriously, she’s so inessential as an artist. she’s pretty, but her music has almost no emotional resonance with any specific audience. i liked her better around 2020 when she had the tom boy ish image. she should have listened to her label when they wanted her to make more pop centered music. her latest ep is not good. i like “wanna come thru” but even that song isn’t really all that special
I wouldn’t completely count her out, I remember last year a lot of of us were having the same conversations about Glorilla because a lot of her singles were not doing good last year and she was getting clowned on, but she got quiet and went into the studio and worked hard and came out and been dropping hit after hit and doing great on some features as well. So let’s see what happens with Coi Leray, but I agree with you. She definitely should play it safe and go pop and furthest stabilize a solid fan base then really start incorporating some of the stuff she really wants to do.
IMO, Glo has more of an image tho! You hear Glorilla dropped a song and can guess what it sounds like. Meanwhile if you hear Coi dropped, my mind goes blank. She has no actual style, she's inconsistent in my opinion
@@latayesha , I agree with this statement Glo Embodies Memphis, fuck the haters, and tomorrow’s a new day. Coi not having a clear brand image definitely is a big PR issue versus other industry peers.
She could benefit from a more experimental rap sound- like alternative rap meets Willow Smith. But the thing is her fan base is very niche they would rather see her be a reality star or the girlfriend of a rapper/athlete. Let’s not even talk about her hating ass dad.
I think she did try that a little…idk if even her core audience was fwi like that. But she has good room for versatility and sometimes when she does go that route she don’t miss.
That’s how you know the industry finna fall ex celebrities getting back with ex celebrities for relevance people don’t have strong fan base anymore they ain’t getting clout music isn’t that entertaining unless you start a beef🫣 or villain with another top artist if lucky
Techno she’s not a “TikTok rapper” bc it helped her actually stay mainstream enough for a time ppl see her as that. But her career ofc predates being just a TikTok rapper and needing/blowing up solely with TikTok.
"Let ur audience grow w u" "start out making generic music that still showcases ur talent, then go into ur artistic bag" That is literally was Ariana Grande did for 5 years until she dropped sweetener
I think Coi is on to something with the Lemon Cars EP. It was nice blend of rap,R&B and pop. And her album before that was so versatile. I hope she keeps getting to put out music because she's really interesting imo
I think her problem is that she is almost completely talentless. In terms of rapping, I'd put her at the same level of skill as Ice Spice, and her singing is just painful. IMHO she's produced a few good songs in her career (Blick Blick, Players, Bops), but now it's time to hang it up, her 15 minutes are over.
I’m genuinely curious to hear your opinion… go back and listen to “Add it” … do you think the Hollywood blowup changed her trajectory, trading the pursuit of talent for streams? Or that she really never had it
Coi is not talentless…or at least not *that* talentless to really compare her to ice spice of all ppl🥴 ntm, when she actually sings..she can hold a good note. You have to remember subjectivity.
Coi is not talentless…or at least not *that* talentless to really compare her to ice spice of all ppl🥴 ntm, when she actually sings..she can hold a good note. You have to remember subjectivity.
I mean that's because she's more known than Pusha t globally tbh the reason I say that if you ask a casual fan Or a person who doesn't listen to that much hip hop or rap they would will name a Coi leray song before they can name a Pusha t song and they will know Coi leray more than Pusha t don't get me wrong a casual fan knows who Pusha t is but they don't know any songs from him because Pusha t don't make music for the mainstream
@@JosephDuplessis-m7y I think there are more fans of runaway then there are fans of Coi. But you're right. Honestly I don't think the mainstream is naming a song from either. But I think they'd recognize more from Push. Especially Grindin, Mercy, Trouble on My Mind. Those are HITS
I agree with you. Coi Leray should do the pop sound. Doechii really had to do the same thing and it blew up really well. Coi Leray has gotten better at her rapping skills. And she got to do the pop sound then do what she wants.
I’m ngl Trendsetter was a solid 8/10 at-least for me it was good for its timing and it still has a few bops but once she dropped Coi it was kinda like ehh it was wraps for me , but then again i only started listing to her after blick blick😩
Trippie Redd is 25. She’s older than him. I don’t know how you thought she was that young. She literally came out a few years ago and she was not under 18 when she came out, so there was no way that she would only be 21.
Yep, I remember her from the Magic City movie, she came out originally around the same time as (or was it before) Mindless Behavior and Diggy Simmons. Edit: she was about 13-15 in that movie…
I have a special place in my heart for Coi, maybe it’s my Taurus bias lol but she has so much potential!! I wish she would lock in and commit to one sound, I think she’ll do really well in pop. Also a huge trippie fan
Thats whats funny when artist get dropped or leave they label saying they wanted me to do ariana , or pop sound as of they werent playing with those lanes in the first let alone doing any real serious body of work to warrant the sentiments . So its crazy you didnt even want to work when ya label was willing to push you and your light skin lol and now she dont have no push. Nothing cause she was fropping so much music you couldnt even finish the last project to nothing now she was goving off big head eneegy and to me i feel she moved to quick and now look at where yoy at stuck on the sheleve cant do nun
why nobody talk about how features ruined her debut & her career ?! then the sample galore thing she did the next album with even more features & just dance songs , she ruined her main audience that loved her “ rap “ more so 😭 like i wouldnt say ruin but i would say , the fact that almost every album/project she puts out she’s being overshadowed by her features , she had like 20 other artist on her debut to the point her style has to change every song. imo she doesnt have her own sound/style ( aside from her true fashion style that she does have ) but she’s still trying to find it . i feel like songs like “ huddy , fly shit , players , do better “ is her style more than the bubblegum rap/pop she tries to keep pushing.
Coi leray has potential but it sad Because coi is if not the but one of the most conscious female rapper without lyricism Check out beautiful conscious song like Anxiety and Still dreaming by coi but she ain't no kendrick or J.cole in lyricism
I loved the single wanna come thru off her latest Ep lemon cars it's really wavy and light song so distinctive from her catalog And Omg Nicki blick blick verse is a test of time. The the flow switch up on that verse is crazy That verse is better than her say so, hot girl summer, Princess Diana, Pound town, whole lotta money verse
Executive Producer here, I have a gold record from TikTok, multiple viral songs, 5 billion + views. The problem is the TikTok clout gets to their head and they forget that they themselves are more famous than their music. TikTok forces them into the limelight with NO core fan base skipping the groundwork so once the virality is gone there’s nothing else to attach to.
We gotta start being honest!!! Selling 10k on your debut album is a flop and it doesn’t matter who you are…if you are not selling at least 100k you’re a flop. Idk why the bar is so low now.
I wish you could've dug more on why her label was pushing her to be pop. You could’ve talked about how Doja was asked to do the same and why from the start of their careers to now there’s a shift. It could be why she’s not releasing. It’s nothing authentic
I was in love with the everything cozy coi leary that was her and I stop when she got that Niki verse then started to started trying to make her vocals sound like her I was like yea she's still have some growing to do
the only Coi Leray music i listen to is the Across the Spider-verse but Metro Boomin album. Outside of that, i only heard negative things about her album
10k was not good for her not at that point in her career and the exposure she had already the issue is she doesn't have a solid fanbase artist like nicki /Taylor/beyonce have showed us how important it is to cultivate a fanbase.
4:12 okay, but…coi and dej loaf on a song together..? Maybe it’s just me but I would like to hear what would come out of that. Maybe even busts rhymes thrown in the mix again…idk.
Coi is so full of it when it came to that Latto Line. Like girl, she made the same refrence with Lola Brooke and you know she wasnt speaking in a negative way. It just made her a bit annoying but i hopw she does well 😂
You’re not serious..?😂 that’s the most nitpicky childish shit I heard-seen- all day. Out of all the reasons..Yall give one person way too much grace being up their ass over the other person. Coi was online around the time having ppl call her stick figure this stick figure that, and then latto wants to pull out an oh so positive line like that-ofc she would take it a certain way. Ntm, if coi knew so bad what it was tbw she wouldn’t be reacted the way she reacted…duh.
@@Boohurghhoo like I said, it was annoying to me even if I can understand lol. Not like I'm hating on the girl, I just think she blew the line out of proportion bc it won't even fully make sense what she was interpretating as it was. She has the right to act any way since her names being thrown out there, but like I said, I think she blew it out of proportion
coi is one of those artists who would have benefited from staying unsigned for longer in order to build her fanbase. cuz who does she appeal to? seriously, she’s so inessential as an artist. she’s pretty, but her music has almost no emotional resonance with any specific audience. i liked her better around 2020 when she had the tom boy ish image. she should have listened to her label when they wanted her to make more pop centered music.
her latest ep is not good. i like “wanna come thru” but even that song isn’t really all that special
riiiiiiiiggght....... that's why she made so much numbers....cause nobody liked her music for real...of course...
The Everything CoZ era was dope
@@dumbsurvivor1u must not have seen her album sells. "numbers?" ha!
I actually agree with you, coi should play the pop game and then make something that she truly wants to do
She did the pop thing. There’s no way out. She’s done.
I'd argue players was "Pop-Rap" more than anything else
I wouldn’t completely count her out, I remember last year a lot of of us were having the same conversations about Glorilla because a lot of her singles were not doing good last year and she was getting clowned on, but she got quiet and went into the studio and worked hard and came out and been dropping hit after hit and doing great on some features as well.
So let’s see what happens with Coi Leray, but I agree with you. She definitely should play it safe and go pop and furthest stabilize a solid fan base then really start incorporating some of the stuff she really wants to do.
IMO, Glo has more of an image tho! You hear Glorilla dropped a song and can guess what it sounds like. Meanwhile if you hear Coi dropped, my mind goes blank. She has no actual style, she's inconsistent in my opinion
@@latayesha , I agree with this statement Glo
Embodies Memphis, fuck the haters, and tomorrow’s a new day.
Coi not having a clear brand image definitely is a big PR issue versus other industry peers.
Glo actually has talent lol
You my favorite Artist culture commentary channel, keep it going. 🙌🏼
Thank you! That means a lot. ☺️❤️
frrr
I just subscribed yesterday 😂
TikTok is the reason why there’s so much one hit wonders however it’s good to promote art tho😢
I forgot all about her lol. That girl got nothing but problems 😂
Coi Leray makes music for mall department stores
more like dollar tree
And TikTok shorts
She's makes music for one of them stores commercials that you will see on tv then in the background they will play her music
GIRL, I--
😂😂
i miss Huddy & Did it era Coi, she was so unique and cool 😢 i also love her R&b stuff
She could benefit from a more experimental rap sound- like alternative rap meets Willow Smith. But the thing is her fan base is very niche they would rather see her be a reality star or the girlfriend of a rapper/athlete. Let’s not even talk about her hating ass dad.
I think she did try that a little…idk if even her core audience was fwi like that. But she has good room for versatility and sometimes when she does go that route she don’t miss.
That’s how you know the industry finna fall ex celebrities getting back with ex celebrities for relevance people don’t have strong fan base anymore they ain’t getting clout music isn’t that entertaining unless you start a beef🫣 or villain with another top artist if lucky
Tik Tok rappers don't have fan bases, there's your problem. Popularity on Tik Tok doesn't translate to anything else.
Techno she’s not a “TikTok rapper” bc it helped her actually stay mainstream enough for a time ppl see her as that. But her career ofc predates being just a TikTok rapper and needing/blowing up solely with TikTok.
"Let ur audience grow w u" "start out making generic music that still showcases ur talent, then go into ur artistic bag"
That is literally was Ariana Grande did for 5 years until she dropped sweetener
I think Coi is on to something with the Lemon Cars EP. It was nice blend of rap,R&B and pop. And her album before that was so versatile. I hope she keeps getting to put out music because she's really interesting imo
I only knew who Coi Leray was bc her father Benzino was one of the people who got dissed by Eminem
“Nobody wants to hear their grandfather rap”🤣😩
I think her problem is that she is almost completely talentless. In terms of rapping, I'd put her at the same level of skill as Ice Spice, and her singing is just painful. IMHO she's produced a few good songs in her career (Blick Blick, Players, Bops), but now it's time to hang it up, her 15 minutes are over.
I’m genuinely curious to hear your opinion… go back and listen to “Add it” … do you think the Hollywood blowup changed her trajectory, trading the pursuit of talent for streams? Or that she really never had it
Coi is not talentless…or at least not *that* talentless to really compare her to ice spice of all ppl🥴 ntm, when she actually sings..she can hold a good note. You have to remember subjectivity.
Coi is not talentless…or at least not *that* talentless to really compare her to ice spice of all ppl🥴 ntm, when she actually sings..she can hold a good note. You have to remember subjectivity.
coi got 12 million more monthly listeners than Pusha T. Thats wrong on so many levels lol
I mean that's because she's more known than Pusha t globally tbh the reason I say that if you ask a casual fan Or a person who doesn't listen to that much hip hop or rap they would will name a Coi leray song before they can name a Pusha t song and they will know Coi leray more than Pusha t don't get me wrong a casual fan knows who Pusha t is but they don't know any songs from him because Pusha t don't make music for the mainstream
@@JosephDuplessis-m7y I think there are more fans of runaway then there are fans of Coi. But you're right. Honestly I don't think the mainstream is naming a song from either. But I think they'd recognize more from Push. Especially Grindin, Mercy, Trouble on My Mind. Those are HITS
You can't compare both rappers.
Listeners can be bought btw.
@@Pink_pr1ncess Yeah that's true I don't know anybody who's bumping Coi leray unless if they playing her music at target or something
I agree with you. Coi Leray should do the pop sound. Doechii really had to do the same thing and it blew up really well. Coi Leray has gotten better at her rapping skills. And she got to do the pop sound then do what she wants.
I was a big fan of here before trippy came in the picture. It’s sad her career didn’t become what I thought it would be by now
No Really..
I’m ngl Trendsetter was a solid 8/10 at-least for me it was good for its timing and it still has a few bops but once she dropped Coi it was kinda like ehh it was wraps for me , but then again i only started listing to her after blick blick😩
Trippie Redd is 25. She’s older than him. I don’t know how you thought she was that young. She literally came out a few years ago and she was not under 18 when she came out, so there was no way that she would only be 21.
Yep, I remember her from the Magic City movie, she came out originally around the same time as (or was it before) Mindless Behavior and Diggy Simmons. Edit: she was about 13-15 in that movie…
She is that young tho. She’s only two years (barely) older than trippie.
she just need to grow uo and stop acting like a 12 year old
I have a special place in my heart for Coi, maybe it’s my Taurus bias lol but she has so much potential!! I wish she would lock in and commit to one sound, I think she’ll do really well in pop. Also a huge trippie fan
Eminem killed her dad career and hers lol am kidding shes just not consistent
This gotta be the most anyone has ever given Coi Leray consideration since Benzino heard "I'm pregnant".
Thats whats funny when artist get dropped or leave they label saying they wanted me to do ariana , or pop sound as of they werent playing with those lanes in the first let alone doing any real serious body of work to warrant the sentiments . So its crazy you didnt even want to work when ya label was willing to push you and your light skin lol and now she dont have no push. Nothing cause she was fropping so much music you couldnt even finish the last project to nothing now she was goving off big head eneegy and to me i feel she moved to quick and now look at where yoy at stuck on the sheleve cant do nun
Where has she even been? Last time I seen her, she was making cooking videos on here.
why nobody talk about how features ruined her debut & her career ?! then the sample galore thing she did the next album with even more features & just dance songs , she ruined her main audience that loved her “ rap “ more so 😭 like i wouldnt say ruin but i would say , the fact that almost every album/project she puts out she’s being overshadowed by her features , she had like 20 other artist on her debut to the point her style has to change every song. imo she doesnt have her own sound/style ( aside from her true fashion style that she does have ) but she’s still trying to find it . i feel like songs like “ huddy , fly shit , players , do better “ is her style more than the bubblegum rap/pop she tries to keep pushing.
i can’t believe this is how i found out that trippie redd and coi leray were an item… YUCK
Coi leray has potential but it sad
Because coi is if not the but one of the most conscious female rapper without lyricism
Check out beautiful conscious song like Anxiety and Still dreaming by coi but she ain't no kendrick or J.cole in lyricism
I loved the single wanna come thru off her latest Ep lemon cars it's really wavy and light song so distinctive from her catalog
And Omg Nicki blick blick verse is a test of time. The the flow switch up on that verse is crazy
That verse is better than her say so, hot girl summer, Princess Diana, Pound town, whole lotta money verse
Artist use to remix different version of their singles all the time. That was the thing back in the day. They’re just taking it back by doing it now.
Executive Producer here, I have a gold record from TikTok, multiple viral songs, 5 billion + views. The problem is the TikTok clout gets to their head and they forget that they themselves are more famous than their music. TikTok forces them into the limelight with NO core fan base skipping the groundwork so once the virality is gone there’s nothing else to attach to.
We gotta start being honest!!! Selling 10k on your debut album is a flop and it doesn’t matter who you are…if you are not selling at least 100k you’re a flop. Idk why the bar is so low now.
her last tape was one of her best imo i hope nope trip can bring back a new flare to the music
Coi with the short hair is new to me.
I wish you could've dug more on why her label was pushing her to be pop. You could’ve talked about how Doja was asked to do the same and why from the start of their careers to now there’s a shift. It could be why she’s not releasing. It’s nothing authentic
I was in love with the everything cozy coi leary that was her and I stop when she got that Niki verse then started to started trying to make her vocals sound like her I was like yea she's still have some growing to do
the only Coi Leray music i listen to is the Across the Spider-verse but Metro Boomin album. Outside of that, i only heard negative things about her album
She got black balled “ she can’t come back” 😵💫
I say for her to make it she has to go pop.
10k was not good for her not at that point in her career and the exposure she had already the issue is she doesn't have a solid fanbase artist like nicki /Taylor/beyonce have showed us how important it is to cultivate a fanbase.
Her first album was solid, Coi was pointless tik tok music that tried hard.
She literally took dej loafs whole vibe tho
people arnt building a fanbase/ real tuned in fans.
Nah she got potential though FOR SURE SHES NOT JUST A TIK TOK SHE A ACTUAL COMPOSER ……☀️🥰🗣️🙏
I like Coi she’s a Jersey Girl…
4:12 okay, but…coi and dej loaf on a song together..? Maybe it’s just me but I would like to hear what would come out of that. Maybe even busts rhymes thrown in the mix again…idk.
Coi Leray is done. She just throw garbage at the wall hoping it sticks.
Coi is so full of it when it came to that Latto Line. Like girl, she made the same refrence with Lola Brooke and you know she wasnt speaking in a negative way. It just made her a bit annoying but i hopw she does well 😂
You’re not serious..?😂 that’s the most nitpicky childish shit I heard-seen- all day. Out of all the reasons..Yall give one person way too much grace being up their ass over the other person. Coi was online around the time having ppl call her stick figure this stick figure that, and then latto wants to pull out an oh so positive line like that-ofc she would take it a certain way. Ntm, if coi knew so bad what it was tbw she wouldn’t be reacted the way she reacted…duh.
@@Boohurghhoo like I said, it was annoying to me even if I can understand lol. Not like I'm hating on the girl, I just think she blew the line out of proportion bc it won't even fully make sense what she was interpretating as it was. She has the right to act any way since her names being thrown out there, but like I said, I think she blew it out of proportion
She needs her slide song
She still matter 🎤❤️
Hey just so you know, this video didn’t show up in my subscriptions page even though I’m subscribed.
She was being to positive, sometimes you gotta do a lil dirt 🤐
And men didn't how she dissed pressa
She posted on twitter that she's going to get breast implants now.
These new rappers cant take criticism
She’s not a profitable artist and I think fans just aren’t interested it’s that simple
Blue moon EP was good
Who represents body positivity? What, what?!?
first againnn
period! 🤭🤞🏽✨
i think your wrong i love your videos but no lemon cars was great
I loveeeeee Players
You love it cuz it's an old song
Coi Leray is just not talented. She can’t rap or sing or dance.
4:22 INDEED! Blick Blick still slaps!!