I think the most harrowing thing about vault 95 is that Gutierrez still went ahead with his mission Vault-Tec wanted him to do. He spent 5 years with these people, hearing their stories forming bonds with them, and becoming part of their family, just to throw it all away when his time to enact phase 2 came. The world was destroyed, and not only that, he had no clue if Vault-Tec was really paying attention (they weren't). He threw all of his past 5 years away for an indoctrinated purpose. I think the real tragedy wasn't so much that the addicts succumbed to their vices and chaos inevitably ensued, but more so one man was so driven by bullshit that he still followed through with his orders with no regard to any of the people he was stuck with for the rest of his life. Vault 95 is sort of like Vault 11 in the fact that it was less about Vault-Tec's experiment, and more so how terrible people can actually be. besides 75, I think 95 was the worst vault in Fallout 4.
Great point on this, and it applies to almost every other vault as well. The missions or tasks made little sense. I guess it makes more sense if these were supposed to be run in a world that hadnt been destroyed, but once It had it made little to no sense to carry through with some of the directives.
This is like asking if it's possible to get addicted to a addikt all because it's technically possible but it hurts to think about and time and space would definitely collapse around you
@JusticeGraceful I actually once did smoke a gram of antimatter I'm a lizard person so I survived at like a magic creature of immortality would you like to know what it's like smoking part of the universe wall
As a recovering alcoholic who has been sober for nearly 30 years, I can say with no hesitation that I am still an alcoholic, and I am still tempted to drink every single day. I don't allow myself to be in such environments because I know that there's no such thing as "just one drink" for me. I haven't had anything stronger than coffee is almost three decades, but even a single beer would be enough to get me blind stinking drunk, and that's something I never want to be again.
Damn dude u’ve been sober 4 longer than I’ve ever lived on this planet ! & staying away from something that’s perfectly legal... damn dude... that’s just so unimaginable! Great job !
Oxhorn. There are atleast 56 skeletons in this vault. I believe that some survived - starved of thier addiction. They left the vault. Becoming raiders. They left Vault 95 door open. Abandoned.
I feel as though Fallout 4 featured the most unnecessarily cruel Vaults of any game thus far. I mean, just look at Vault 75; the entire experiment was to murder the parents of children and teens, and have them fend for themselves in the Vault. What the fuck kind of conversation even is that? "Okay, so....we have a Vault of druggies....a Vault with only one single male....a Vault that contained only about 20 people that were trapped with a panther....what else should we do?" "I dunno. Orphan a bunch of children?" "Brilliant!" I'm all for the advancement of science, but what the fuck even is that?
Super Mutant Sam and Mas i think new Vegas was worse. Vault 11 human sacrifice Vault 22 mutated residents into plant spores (the Big MT gave them the plants) Vault 19 unknown but the experiment was based on color segregation Vault 23 had a uprising which a part took the weapons in the armory and left to Nelis Air Force base and became the Boomers. The remaining Residents turned to Gouls from a radiation leak from the reactor
Lol right, when i got to this quest part i thought to myself "so thats why i barely ever find any psycho in the game anymore, cuz now Cait is looting it like when they loot ammo, so of course in my 1st play through i did the quest and everything to get her fixed up. But now after that i pretty much always leave Cait addicted, mainly cuz you can give her Psycho and she will use it while fighting, also dump some Vodka in her inventory and shes a melee machine, i still feel bad when i go to talk to her and she ask about it again :(
Same I had the same thoguht the other day when I was doing that quest I am powering through getting all companions to max affinity or there personal quests
Just saw your comment and it got me thinking maybe it's a metaphors for when loved ones try to help them with addiction it's a long and dangerous journey but if you stick it out and help there is still hope for sobriety and to not give up no matter how hard it seem.
I used to work with a huge number of drug users, addicts, alcoholics etc, and every one of them, if you could get them to talk to you honestly, would say there is no such thing as an ex-addict.
There is no cure for addiction, just the willpower to overcome it. There is cures for physical addictions but the mental addiction will always be there. 5 years isn't enough time for temptation from mental addiction to be manageable such as an alcoholic being around people that are drinking and not have to struggle with the temptation. First you want to quit, then it is a lifetime of quitting and learning coping mechanisms to fight the temptation. The addicts in the vault probably didn't want to quit and didn't build any mechanisms to fight temptation, just ways to cope with no access.
I'd argue that. I dropped a pretty wicked addiction, no urge to pick the stuff up anymore. Honestly, I kinda resent being called one. I've been clean for 10 years, without a single sniff of any of my drugs of choice. Ain't like I can't find it, either. I just have more important shit to do than to lie around in a dope-coma all day, and honestly I'm pretty proud of overcoming what I did. But, I'm also not fond of the AA approach. If it works for people, good, but a lot of what they do just rubs me the wrong way. Part of which, saying "you're an addict and you have no power"? Bullshit, even if you're working the program you took those steps. And you deserve praise for it, not reminders that any day you can fuck up. If you're there, you're aware enough. If you're not, it's morale-killing, and hanging out with a bunch of people reliving the old days ain't gonna help you move past it.
You weren't addicted then. Addiction isn't something that goes away instantly or even quickly. It is just like an excessive compulsive behavior disorder or a phobia, it takes years to truly overcome and can come back in an instant. Addiction is a need for whatever someone is addicted to that is not a desire. they may desire it but they also feel they need it and the need feeling never goes away. You desired your drug of choice and may have been physically addicted but you were not mentally addicted. Once the physical addiction was broken and you no longer desired the drug due to a lifestyle choice you were free and clear and can even use that drug during a new years celebration and not touch it again. An addict cannot do that, they must remain vigilant and not ever use again because they will quickly revert to the stage they were in when they decided to quit. An addict struggles everyday because they know they will return to that stage if they give in to temptation. For some addicts 50 years of not touching their addiction then using will return them to the state they fought so hard to avoid.
Did you honestly just try to tell me that I wasn't hooked on heroin for 10 years? Yeah, I have no urge, because it's fucking heroin, and it almost killed me. I'm not even touching this conversation again, and you should be FUCKING ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. What do they say about pretending to understand someone else's addictions? Right, don't. That's pretty fucked up, man. You don't know me from Atom, so don't do that. I can't even...
Evil Taco, you clearly didn't read their comment, because they're right. There are two kinds of addiction; physical and mental. You obviously only had a physical addiction, because if you had a mental addiction you would NOT have been able to overcome it so quickly. What you completely ignored is that he wasn't invalidating your experiences; he phrased it badly, but what he was trying to say is that you got lucky in terms of how addicted you got. People who are MENTALLY addicted can have their drug of choice almost kill them, and they'll STILL go back to it. If you were mentally addicted you would still have the urge now. Everyone's personal experiences are slightly different, but the human brain and how it works does not actually differ that much from person to person. It's designed to work a certain way, and that's usually what happens. Addiction, for that reason, also usually works in a similar way from person to person. With all due respect you're not a special snowflake, and it's simply not true that no one can understand what you've been through. Plenty of others have been through the exact same thing, based purely on statistics. You can talk about what your subjective mind has made of your experiences all you want, and some of it will be accurate; but your experiences as viewed through your own eyes ARE subjective and cannot overrule the objective nature of science. According to science, it is highly unlikely you suffered from a strong mental dependence on Heroin; it's far more likely you simply suffered from a strong PHYSICAL dependence. That's only degrading your experiences if you DECIDE it is.
When I came to this vault, I knew nothing about Cait's companion quest. It was just, "Oh, hey, here's a vault; let's see what's here!" Thing is, I'm a social worker. I've spent most of the last two years working with recovering addicts. For the first time, these skeletons were not nameless victims of an alternate timeline. They were people I cared about. People I worked with every day. I knew their stories, cried with them, laughed with them, educated and advocated for them. I've been to AA meetings, I'm quite familiar with the program. I recognized the circle of chairs and plethora of coffee cups. I've personally seen the desperation in the eyes of an addict tempted by relapse. I've listened to the anguished voices of family members, searching for anything to save their daughter, their sister. I've comforted those who lost someone to one last high. I've been disgusted by Vault Tec before, but this was personal - Vault Tec murdered people I loved. I was so shaken afterward, I had to stop playing for awhile. No game has ever affected me so deeply, before or since.
@@ladyalicent705 I just want you to know that this was the perfect comment. There are those among us who simply cannot and/or will not understand some things.
This story makes you so upset not because you forget that this is only a game, but rather because you know that there are people and corporations in the real world, who do exactly what is depicted in this game.
Serpentar9000 Like she said would not be enough, actually the only way to cure her was the quest made to... Well... F***ing cure her... Did you actually listen to anything about her?
Matthias Millois its a cheap plot point, ive gotten addicted to every chem in f03, fo4, and nv at the same time and addictol or a doctor could fix it no problem
Richard Head were you addicted to them for literally years in your character's time? She obviously has a far more severe addiction level that addictol can't help.
In theory this could have been the best vault in the world far beyond the Control vaults as they could have saved people from death and their addictions. Sadly humans cannot have nice things as they are all too narrow minded to look past their own hand that is jamming drugs into their skin.
what about circle of dead people in the overseers room with coffee cups? 1:34 looks like a suicide pact don't you think? They all have coffee cups beside each body, looks like there were sitting in circle, doesn't look like there any kind of fight going on, and no drug signs of drugs in that room...
I honestly feel the pain of this vault. I've been in recovery for quite some time. I'm newer to fallout, but this vault breaks my heart. Life is hard enough. Although 5 years in I'd have thought some would have resisted. I'm 3 years and I work as a bartender. I just know 1 wrong choice and I go back to my old life. Not the easiest thing to do back everyone is responsible for their decisions.
I would love to see one day in fallout lore a vault that houses all the vault tech scientists and that is where they record all the results of the tests ... because currently all we know is the test data is pointless
To cure addiction your body would have to feel a high greater than the high you experienced by taking the drugs to make you never desire to slip up and use drugs again. So yeah it would have been incredibly pleasant for her at the same time slightly painful being stabbed.
Since Cait never goes back onto chems, we know that people can be changed by the treatment available in Vault 95. I would venture that some of the original Vault 95 residents refused to use the supply of chems when it was revealed. They may even have suggested destroying them. Unfortunately, those who succumbed to temptation apparently killed their fellows who tried to stop them.
Cait also has you, a friend who was there to support her and help her. The only person who was actually good to her. She does not have the negative effects of addiction anymore, and has a friend who will help her if she ever thinks about it again. Whereas the dwellers in Vault 95 had nothing but other dwellers firing at each other for a handful of drugs. Even the one we know about states that his life here is not better than above the ground. If he had someone like the Lone Survivor to help him, maybe he would not have fallen too.
I don't doubt SOME definitely had kicked the habit. The only problem is that a knife or gun'll kill even more effectively than OD and if somebody's standing in the way of a junkie's stash, things are gonna go bad.
I skipped past the part when cait was moaning seeing how my phone was on full volume when it started and I was like *fuck I don't want people to think I'm watching porn!*
@@Ludovicus1769 It's probably that he was watching this video on his phone, and is referring to the part of the video where Cait starts moaning. He probably wasn't actually playing Fallout 4 on his phone.
Vault 95 is, in my opinion, one of the most sickening Vaults in the game. I've never dealt with addiction myself, but I've helped friends and family cope with their own. Such a vile, pointless betrayal actually made me stop and shiver as I cleared 95. The whole Vault Experiment really does make me wish that some Fallout game would have us discover one of Vault-Tek secret facilities, filled with people that still considered themselves VT employees, similar to Overseer Barstow in 88. Still devoted to Braun's sadistic project and still as vile and evil as they were before the bombs. All for the purpose of dispensing proper justice, of course. In my case, it wouldn't be gunfire. It'd be to sabotage the vault so that all of them are forced to scrounge for a semblance of life on the surface, in a world their kind created. As for the Jet lore flub, it's pretty easy to justify. Jet is prewar, Myron just rediscovered it, and developed a new way of cooking it.
I personally would rather pick up a big bag of predator grenades, go to the glowing sea, and throw a trail of them all the way back to that vault to provide the deathclaws with a once-in-a-lifetime pre-war diet, but to each their own.
Well your story is very similar to the real in fallout 2 there is a boy who reinvented jet because the recipe was lost after the great his name is Myron his able to be a complain as well check it out ruclips.net/video/pljgR5OAqRc/видео.html
He still technically invented it as the company never utilized the protein in the way Myron did. If they had, we would have seen evidence somewhere that the police HEAVILY regulated cattle farms and farmers because if anyone did discover this, it would have been even more epidemic than our real world meth problem. It would have caused a near instant widespread addiction epidemic with near limitless supply. With the spread of the protein at the level it is, if it was discovered, it would have been common knowledge to any prewar ghoul and would have been already being made and sold all over the place prior to Myron’s birth. Every single farmer with a brammin would be making Jet for extra income. There would be NO way not one cattle farmer from pre-war time died before the war without knowledge of the amphetamine produced if it was known about. The protein wouldn’t have been distributed like it was if it had been. The amphetamine wasn’t the actual reason for the proteins failure, but a by-product of it’s method of distribution and use when it didn’t work as intended.
Jet is basically Methamphetamine. Both make you feel faster mentally and physically and are highly addictive. Amphetamines were invented in 1887 and Methamphetamine was invented in 1917. So it would need to be reinvented once the original stock pile dwindled.
cld1472 that is as of yet the best pro-Bethesda retcon argument I’ve heard. So basically if it existed pre-divergence, in this case 1887, than it existed period, and would logically have to be a “rediscovery” in the post war world. Good on ya!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Jet will always be a post war drug. I consider jet being in 95 a Bethesda fuck up or if it isn't and they have the balls and say that jet is pre-war I'll just treat it like Bethesda treats tactics and brotherhood, NOT FUCKEN CANON.
RG07 Gaming We must remember, this is Bethesda's game. They have the creative liberty to do what they want with the title, even if us fans don't always agree.
I think the bigger explanation is that it could always be Myrion is a lying turd. He claimed to have invented Jet,but hell,even the Soul Survivor can manufacture Jet. It's possible he just came up with a new variation.
Could very well be that he just rediscovered a way to make the pre-war drug. And then the recipe spread, because it's been quite a while since Fallout 2 in-universe. Like how meth's recipe spread so quickly and pervasively, it'd be hard to keep a bottle on a recipe for something that popular. Demand would far outstrip supply. Honestly, the one that confuses me more, as to why more people don't question? Why the fuck do they use bottle caps on the east coast? They were basically tied to the water barons in the Hub on the west coast, they make NO sense as a currency without some backing. They're bulky, heavy in large quantities, and there are oodles of things that'd make more sense. Like, as in Metro, ammunition. At least that has a use, which would fit in a barter system. It's actually a beef I have with New Vegas, as well. Water backs the NCR dollar. Directly from the Hub, in fact. Caps? They make no sense anymore, paper scrip is way lighter and is backed by the exact same commodity.
This gives me a wonderful feeling. Knowing that I can still be surrounded by my addiction and places to "enjoy" and not fall back to it... I feel more recovered now than ever.
"a life time supply of drugs and booze" stored in a room small enough that you cant even fall over...sure. eighter the guy exaggerated massively or bethesda doenst care about "realistics volumes"
Buddy that stash is the size of a wine collection curated by a mediocre middle age white dad who doesn't understand that some wines turn to vinegar because you're not supposed to keep them.
Great Video Oxhorn. I gotta say this as someone who has battled addiction myself. It's very common for people who don't suffer from addictions to believe that there must be a way to "cure" it. I hear it all the time. even my own family thought after nearly 5 years of sobriety that I wouldn't ever have to deal with it again. But for myself all it took was the death of a relative and the collapse of my health to send me back to my old behaviors. The trouble is that the "disease" of addiction, if it can be crudely referred to as such, centers in the mind. Given enough reason, anyone can become an addict. To be honest it's quite obvious that whoever did this part of the game in my oppinion must have a history of addiction themselves. Bethesda did way to perfect of a job creating the social, mental and physical markups of a real treatment center. Especially the mental. like you said Oxhorn these people were for all intensive purposes "cured." Absence can be a cure but since we live in a world where that isn't possible, it isn't a practical one. and even when these people were reintroduced to the chems after 5 years, a lot of them wanted to keep on going with the program. The only thing I find completely rediculous is the chair. it's totally not at all based on science but I guess for stories reasons bethesda had to come up with something to help Cait. I'm glad that they included something like this in the game though because the only way to overcome stigmas is to expose people more and more to the realities of things like addiction. And yes I'm aware it's a game. Again great Video Oxhorn. love to hear your Lore Videos. You offer an excellent view of things with your opinions and such but still manage to be totally respectfull. I love it.
Imo this is one of the saddest vaults. As a recovered addict this one hits close to home especially when you're trying to do everything absolutely right and something goes wrong. Tragic.
i gotta say that I've watched a few of your videos and that ending was the one that mad me a subscriber. You got a way that makes these lore videos just a step above everything else. Keep up the great work!!
On the surface :A legit Detox vault to get people off chem and their addictions. Me: It's vault- tec nothing is legit. What does the coffee have human blood in it or whiskey?
These videos have actually helped me sleep, I've suffered from insomnia and somniphobia for years and it's been wearing on my physical and mental health, being able to listen to these videos at night has helped me tons.
The whole jet argument never bothered me. It could of been a new type of chem, that was extremely addictive. After all we also found out ghouls existed pre-war as well. So I actually prefer that the kid reinvented a experimental chem.
Well in the real world, we see celebrities go back and forth from home and "rehab"... I say that 99.9999999% of the time *"recovering" addicts will always hit it again when they see it presented...
As we saw not all of them fell off the wagon so quickly. For at least some the program was working however stress can be a nasty trigger that can cause an addict to relapse, like the one guy whose computer entries that were read only started up with the chems when he had lost all hope both in the vault and of the outside world.
agreed, it's a vastly different thing to be a coke addict in real life and then quit and never touch it again for at least say 5 to 10 years than it is to be say a coke addict that tries to do the same thing, but then suddenly world war 3 breaks out and you lose all hope during it and relapse to coke, where one dude has a at the very least stable life, the other has no idea wether he'll survive another day
I love your Fallout 4 lore videos or full story videos. They really make me think about some of the things I missed when playing through and makes me want to go back and play it again.
This is one of my personal favorites of the lore videos you've made. It reminds me that there are many things we use as coping mechanisms against addictive behavior, including gaming. I personally have used gaming as a mental recovery several times in the past when big events shook me. It's like getting lost in a good book that inspired you to do more with your life. Thanks! :)
i just wanted to say that i found your commentary on addiction and human nature very thought provoking and hit really close to home. youre a very deep thinker sir, i appreciate that
We learn that only a few of them instantly give in and start to take the chems Maybe it was the stress that caused the others to start as well, just like the guy who left these entries on his terminal So I think those others must have been somewhat cured of their addiction
I love this video. I’m happy that I’ve found your channel just as I’m finally falling in love with Fallout 4 (after 375+ hours of game time). This vault’s story was especially gruesome and I wanted to hear from someone else that had discovered the story behind it. Bravo. Excellent script work.
Thank you again Ox. Vault Tec is evil, to be sure. Another interesting Vault experiment. Definitely worth getting Kate clean. I know that, in game, the chems a re a huge help, but i never willingly use them.
And yet, people in the wasteland have survived, without the Vault Dweller, the Chosen One, Lone Wanderer, the Courier, or the Sole Survivor. The subjects of their experiments were not only duped into participating in the experiments, they were promised the survival of unimaginable horrors, and instead, became subjected to far worse things - using guile and trust. The ends, do not justify the means, in my opinion.
AlphaGator9 without the vault dweller there would be no ncr and the masters supermutant army would go unchallenged and slowly make mankind extinct. Without the chosen one the enclave would have committed genocide. Without the lone wander there be no wasteland survivors guide, and would not be able to stop the enclave from their second attempt of genocide or stop the super-human menace. We are still unaware of the ramifications of the couriers actions. Without the the sole survivor the Institute would still be a menace to the Commonwealth. Without vault-tec the wasteland would worse off. Sometimes the ends justifie the means.
Oxhorn is so full of wisdom and whenever I’m feeling sad I get a big old spoon some Häagen-Dazs ice cream and I just sit down and watch Oxhorn and everything just goes away 😂😂😂
This is such a good video and I feel it really does sum up the connection between humans and addiction Sudden deprivation may seem to work, but, like painkillers, it only works as long as it's present and potent enough, and once it's gone, the addiction may come back as strong, if not stronger, than before due to the person thinking that he has to have more to regain what he lost, so unless u can permanently deprive said person of temptations for his life, there has to be a better way of solving the issue of addiction. Once again an amazing video I must say
Loved your ending explanation of the struggles one may go through while trying to detox. it was very philosophical and well said. thank you for your content!
I just ran through this vault, and I completely missed the overseer's office. I didn't really get much out of the other bits of story either. But Ox's take on it was super interesting. I never would have thought about it that deeply.
To truly cure an addiction your normal not drugged up body would have to feel a high that is far greater than any high the drug could ever give you to make it pointless to even consider using drugs again. So yeah she got her rocks off so to speak as she would have experienced the greatest high she ever knew from then on by not being on drugs.
The ending of this video really touched me. Love is so important. I've been sober eight years. Now I volunteer at a foodbank/outreach place and a lot of the people who come in have challenging behaviours (including drinking and using on the premises), but really respond to a bit of care and respect. It's hard to let yourself be loved when you feel so wretched and unlovable. That's something you have to learn. But it's a wonderful thing.
If you enter the overseers office with Piper she will say something like "They were just 1 round away form finishing musical chairs." something to that degree, try it out
Hi, Oxhorn! Going through your fantastic Fallout4 videos, I have one question, or two :) Is it meaningful to equip traders between your settlements with weapons and armor or don't they get attacked by game characters? Or do they take what they need in firearms and ammunition from your settlements or does the game let them produce weapons miraculously? It's a pain in the ass to micromanage the settlements and each and every settler. (They don't even harvest their crops so that you can use it.) How do you gather so much information about not only the games details but the game mechanic?
No, it's not necessary aside from roleplaying reasons. Settlers running supply lines are invulnerable on their route. But they can get downed in a fight and might get "stuck" but you never lose that supply line.
I was a hardcore “active” drug addict for 13 years and no shit this game is what saved me from the active addiction when I got it for Christmas years ago. I didn’t know a video game could have an impact like that but I’m still sober years later. I remember finding this vault with Kait I think it is and then I read about it and put myself in the shoes of those people in the vault and thought about all the mayhem and sadness that would happen after they let all those chems be taken freely. Still freaks me out to this day
Coming from an addict who has been clean for 2 years, I can say you are completely 100% right when you said the person has to want to change. You can try to help an addict and they may get clean for a bit, but if they don't make the decision to get clean themselves they'll usually end up relapsing once they hit a bump in the road. They have to want to be done with it. Great video and input Ox, as always.
Hey Oxhorn, I love your content! I have an idea for a kinda long episode, where you discuss the origins of Jet, beginning in FO2 then discuss theories on how Jet arrived in the east, then maybe touch on situations like in this video where the canon doesn't match where Jet is located.
I'm sorry but the story is hilarious. I've been to rehab and can imagine opening a closet and finding a huge stash of drugs. Having everyone go nuts and die. The dyeing part isn't so funny but you get my point I hope.
This is actually inspiring me to have a playthrough where I never take chems at all. I think that I would never take drugs, and that this should reflect on my character. Thanks for the video. I have been in this place multiple times, read and discovered everything, but it never had an impact on me or made me think about it, except for when I watched this video.
The Jet lore "problem" is quite easily reconciled, if some thought is put to it... The boy genius did "invent" Jet, in the sense that he figured out a way to replicate the drug's effects using postwar ingredients and techniques. But Jet existed in a prewar version as well, made using materials and utilizing technology now so long lost as to be impossible and forgotten. Evidence suggesting this is located in the terminal belonging to the secret chems dealer in Sanctuary Hills - while Jet is not directly mentioned, several other chems like Psycho and Buffout are, as well as less-common ones like Daytripper and Daddy-O, suggesting that prewar versions of all the postwar chems existed. So, as far as most know, the boy invented it, even if all he really did was secretly reverse-engineer samples of the prewar version. Just how he might've gotten his hands on a prewar version is uncertain, but if Vault 95's contents suggest anything, he probably might've obtained some by either raiding a vault himself, or buying it from someone else who did the raiding.
the problem with that is Jet is an extremely addictive amphetamine in Fallout 2 in Fallout 4 its a combat drug that for some reason everyone got they're hands on. But honestly Fallout 4 has a lot of continuity problems throughout the whole game. Like Danse saying the Enclave was a rouge Brotherhood of Steel branch is impossible. That would make them a US government sanctioned rouge branch of a unit that went rouge form the US government then became the US government somehow.
Amphetamine was created in 1887, Methamphetamine was created in 1917. Both are highly addictive and both make the user feel faster both mentally and physically. So there is no lore problem, the only explanation needed is that Meth started to run out and the boy in FO2 invented a new way to make Meth and called it Jet. Every game since has had enough time for the new term to have traveled across country so even Meth found in vaults could be called Jet by the new world.
cld1472 The problem with that is Fallout 4 says Jet is a combat drug so why are middle class civilians easily getting they're hands on it in those numbers? As why is meth being used as a combat drug in the first place? Do you really want to make a solider twitchy just to stop him/her from feeling pain? That's not a good idea. Also Jet or anything like it wasn't in Fallout 1 so (in Californian at least) meth didn't exist from 2161-2241 (Fallout 1 to 2) then its all over the US in 36 years without things like cars and planes when Fallout 3 starts? I don't buy that. You also got to remember DC is on the other side of the country and there isn't much as far as trade out there. There is no Hub or New Vegas or NCR there so its not somewhere people would rush a drug to.
Dagonofthedepths, you need to learn more about drugs man. Meth was created in 1917 but was not made illegal until the 1970's. Considering the worlds split completely in the 1950's the drug could easily have not been made illegal and thus making it fairly easy to explain why it would be able to be so easy to obtain. Meth made in a lab is easy and safe to make but once those labs are bombed it would die out rather quickly as you have surely heard of Meth labs in our world exploding. And yeah someone who can act more quickly in combat is a good thing I am sure between 1920 and 1970 our governments thought about using it as a combat enhancing drug if they did not really do so. And yes Jet did not exist between 2161 and 2241 and Meth was so hard and dangerous to make that anyone who knew how to make it was long dead to make more at those times be it from natural causes or an explosion. The later is more likely to be honest.
cld1472 Your forgetting squad based combat. Being 2x fast doesn't help vs 10 men trying to kill you and if you are so tweaked out of your mind you might shoot your friends that's a huge problem Meth also can make the user focus on one thing which again can be a big problem in combat if you need to be aware of your surroundings. Besides no matter how slow time is moving unless you can more super fast your not dodging bullets moving 300m/s Now that said Jet's description in Fallout 2 is not the same as Fallout 4. Fallout 2 Jet is basically Crystal Meth, 4 is unknown and they honestly don't really do the same thing. All Fallout 2 did was give you +1 to strength and perception and = 2 ap for 5 mins then drops your strength and perception by -4 when you come down addicted or no. That is insanely stupid to use in a fire fight. Fallout 3-4 it slows time and has no real ill effects unless addiction kicks in. The purpose was totally different as the thing that made Jet Jet and not Meth in Fallout 2 was it was MORE addictive than traditional Meth was (which was the point. It was made to make money and addicted people will spend more). Another thing is that yeah someone might have thought of using Meth in 1970 but its 2018 know. the Resource Wars in Fallout started in 2052. Yeah the US military was really unethical but that's a drug for suicide attacks plus they already had Pyscho.
The only way I have understand fallout is by watching your videos. I usually don't read the terminals or notes but you and that mysterious and suav and sexy voice gets the story in order and add spice to it making it better to understand. I eaven raid places and then search if you have the story for the dungeon I have finished and hear it from you with the added bonus of a bit of theory and eaven adding a bit of soul to the story. Thanks allot and merry Christmas
What I found unrealistic is how loyal these vault tech employees are in executing their instructions. Especially after a long time and in the face of the end of the world.
I like to explore these areas on my own and then come back and listen to your vids. I had fallout4 when it first came out and I wasnt that into it. Mind you I have played 3 and new vegas and liked both. I think the settlements was a bit much for me starting out. But ive just repurchased it and ive been playing non stop Anywho, I love your vids because I consistently overlook and miss details about the lore of locations I explore and you just do a nice little recap. Much appreciated!
i was an addict for quite a while, I was an alcoholic by age 15 and drank almost daily till 18. I nearly died in my sleep from alcohol poisoning. I quit the following day cold Turkey. I am 28 now so I have been sober for 10 years now😃
I am proud of you but at the same time very unproud of you. I am proud that you have been clean for so long and that you are happy with your life enough to not go back, it is a thing not everyone can do. I am unproud of you though that you think you are not still an addict, you are a recovering addict and will be until the day you die. No matter how much you want others to believe you would not enjoy the taste of a single beer you and me both know you would love one but you do not wish to become dependent on alcohol every again. An addict is completely submissive to their addiction, an exaddict is naive enough to think they are completely free, a recovering addict knows he is chained up for life by the addiction but would rather struggle against those chains to not use than to submit his/her life to the drugs ever again.
I don't think that mere deprivation of an addiction, or temptation is a true cure, the underlying causes and motivation that lead to the addiction need to be dealt with, and while outside help a lot, the addicted person needs to look in themselves for change. I myself am dealing with an addiction, and it is a very complex struggle to deal with, and it seems that most people don't really understand how to help
Jefferson DeMott The vast majority of addiction is mental. I was a smoker for 12 years, then one day I simply made the decision to stop. It sucked, but I stopped. It's been three years since my last cigarette. I didn't need any gum or patches, I just needed some mental fortitude. Stick with it.
I actually have a Masters in Psychology and I've got to say that the way Vault 95 treats addiction is about as realistic as the stories behind any of the other vaults. Recovering addicts won't go at each other's throats after 5 years sober, they won't all OD when presented with a lifetime supply of their substance of choice. They'll just, well...start using again. As for Jet. I think that's one of the things that fell between the cracks on the continuity check in F4.
Statistically speaking 40 to 60 percent of all recovering drug addicts will relapse. 75 percent of recovering drug addicts have reported to have done violent acts while in recovery. 95 subjects entered so between 38 and 57 of those will relapse. And between 28.5 and 42.75 will be violent in nature pertaining drugs your thesis that it is unrealistic is majorly flawed. Once those doors to the drugs opened they would all fend for their addiction and the chances of complete anarchy would be probable. As for the Jet thing and you thinking it is a continuity issue, well simply it is not. In 1887 Germans invented Amphetamines, in 1917 Japanese invented Methamphetamine. Meth and Jet are both highly addictive drugs that make the user feel faster both mentally and physically. While Buffouts are basically Steroids, Psycho is basically PCP, and MedX is basically an addictive form of Marijuana all of those are fairly easy to create. Meth on the other hand is very dangerous to create and likely to kill the creator. The bombs dropped in 2077 and FO2 starts in 2241 with 164 years between. Chances are Meth died out decades if not a century prior to FO2 so when the kid in FO2 created Jet he did create something that was not found in the world at that time due to over use in the past. But as vaults were opened Meth would have been located and would be called Jet as it did the same thing. So in reality he reinvented Meth and called it Jet.
You have some great content sir! Love the videos! Subscribed and belled. Really liked how you ended the video with "can people be changed with a pill and needle? In fallout yes, but in reality no. For it is our loving friends and family plus genuine feeling to change that cures us."
You fool, we didn't want to destroy everyone. We wanted to preserve humanity and rebuild earth... You have destroyed the Enclave, and now the second best hope for humanity. You imbeciles.
@@atlasrules87 Only in their own vision. It appears to me that everybody else above ground hated the institute, and were rebuilding mankind just fine all on their own. Just not at a rapid pace!
Anonymous 0ne Pete Hines or whatever his last name is said previously that the kid in the fridge quest was suppose to be a wild wasteland moment. I personally thought that was a cop out answer and was just covering his ass be caused they screwed up because of how stupid and nonsensical the quest is. Consider the kid in the fridge quest line non-canon.
Being a security guard for a hospital, what he says about people with addictions is exactly right. I've seen multiple people just keep coming in like a revolving door. They'll never truly get free until they truly want to, you have to want to be addiction free before treatment can really take hold
I'm willing to bet that if the detox chair was written up, it'd be described as a high-pressure. full-body dialysis machine that *rapidly* cycles the occupants blood supply through a scrubber so as to not cause death via catastrophic loss of blood pressure. Even worse, it would have to cycle the blood several times to ensure there were no further contaminants. If regular dialysis machines are any benchmark, such a system would be beyond pure agony to use.
As an ex-morphine addict (prescribed because I live in constant, un-relenting pain) I can tell you that addictions are for life. I've been clean for five years. Personally, it's about will power but you can never be "cured".
Story line aside (intriguing as it is), Once you have 'cleared' the vault it is possible to create two settlements using the Conquest mod. The first workshop is placed in the entrance wherever you like - I placed mine near the elevator. The second one is placed after taking the elevator (totally new interior cell). Then you have two HUGE build areas to play with. And if your like me and uses tools like Workshop Framework, Workshop Plus, Place Anywhere and Build Everywhere, You can build as much as you like wherever you want. Have fun... :)
I think the most harrowing thing about vault 95 is that Gutierrez still went ahead with his mission Vault-Tec wanted him to do. He spent 5 years with these people, hearing their stories forming bonds with them, and becoming part of their family, just to throw it all away when his time to enact phase 2 came. The world was destroyed, and not only that, he had no clue if Vault-Tec was really paying attention (they weren't). He threw all of his past 5 years away for an indoctrinated purpose. I think the real tragedy wasn't so much that the addicts succumbed to their vices and chaos inevitably ensued, but more so one man was so driven by bullshit that he still followed through with his orders with no regard to any of the people he was stuck with for the rest of his life. Vault 95 is sort of like Vault 11 in the fact that it was less about Vault-Tec's experiment, and more so how terrible people can actually be. besides 75, I think 95 was the worst vault in Fallout 4.
He might be already brainwashed tho
Great point on this, and it applies to almost every other vault as well. The missions or tasks made little sense. I guess it makes more sense if these were supposed to be run in a world that hadnt been destroyed, but once It had it made little to no sense to carry through with some of the directives.
Out of all the vaults there are in the entire fallout game series, the worst vault is Vault 75 in fallout 4. Vault 95 is bad, but 75 I worse.
@@doyouhaveanybeans I think vault 11 is far worse
@@garlonschuman1014 I agree. I too think that vault 11 was the worst for what really happened at the end
finds adictol which cures all addictions *gets addicted to adictol*
This is like asking if it's possible to get addicted to a addikt all because it's technically possible but it hurts to think about and time and space would definitely collapse around you
@JusticeGraceful you are the one I was talking about
@JusticeGraceful I actually once did smoke a gram of antimatter I'm a lizard person so I survived at like a magic creature of immortality would you like to know what it's like smoking part of the universe wall
and this is what Methadone does folks 😩🤣🤣🤣
Dangit I did it again
As a recovering alcoholic who has been sober for nearly 30 years, I can say with no hesitation that I am still an alcoholic, and I am still tempted to drink every single day. I don't allow myself to be in such environments because I know that there's no such thing as "just one drink" for me. I haven't had anything stronger than coffee is almost three decades, but even a single beer would be enough to get me blind stinking drunk, and that's something I never want to be again.
Well done for the 30 years sober, I'm sure that the record is hard to maintain every day.
Damn dude u’ve been sober 4 longer than I’ve ever lived on this planet ! & staying away from something that’s perfectly legal... damn dude... that’s just so unimaginable! Great job !
You're strong willed dude. Keep at it.
You’ve got this it’s got to be hard
Wow that’s inspiring, good on you man I hope to be like you
Oxhorn. There are atleast 56 skeletons in this vault. I believe that some survived - starved of thier addiction. They left the vault. Becoming raiders.
They left Vault 95 door open. Abandoned.
I'm writing a fanfiction about a survivor from this vault, your comment gave me more reasons to believe the story I'm creating 😅
Barehan Mahamed Ds if your finished with this fan fiction i would love to read it
@@Bambale178 UPDATE???
@@bamagalforever still stuck with writing, lack of inspiration 😪 I'll come back and let you know when it's done tho
Ngl this was a good experiment by vault tec... the more humane of experiments that is.
I love listening to these lore videos while I lay down, eyes closed, and just imagine being there. These are my bedtime stories.
Anonymous 0ne well then some of ur bedtime stories are pretty sad dark or of something terrible that happened
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So what was the story like when you got to the Cait seen? ;)
I do the same exact same thing with Ox's lore playlist and just leave my laptops brightness at minimum
it helps that oxhorn has a relaxing voice lol
I swear when I did this quest my mom walked in when Cait was on the chair and my mom thought I was watching porn
lol
Did you find it arousing ?
lololollollolo
WHAT THE FUCK
Preston Garvey watch your mouth and look for settlements for me to help
I feel as though Fallout 4 featured the most unnecessarily cruel Vaults of any game thus far. I mean, just look at Vault 75; the entire experiment was to murder the parents of children and teens, and have them fend for themselves in the Vault. What the fuck kind of conversation even is that?
"Okay, so....we have a Vault of druggies....a Vault with only one single male....a Vault that contained only about 20 people that were trapped with a panther....what else should we do?"
"I dunno. Orphan a bunch of children?"
"Brilliant!"
I'm all for the advancement of science, but what the fuck even is that?
Super Mutant Sam and Mas i think new Vegas was worse.
Vault 11 human sacrifice
Vault 22 mutated residents into plant spores (the Big MT gave them the plants)
Vault 19 unknown but the experiment was based on color segregation
Vault 23 had a uprising which a part took the weapons in the armory and left to Nelis Air Force base and became the Boomers. The remaining Residents turned to Gouls from a radiation leak from the reactor
Vault 11 was creepy as fuck.
Super Mutant Sam and Mas To the woman the 999 men and 1 women was probs terrible
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The Vault Tec Company are psychopaths
When Cait said we need to go through an entire vault of gunners to cure her of addiction I was just like, boi get some adictol
I said "sounds like fun"
Lol right, when i got to this quest part i thought to myself "so thats why i barely ever find any psycho in the game anymore, cuz now Cait is looting it like when they loot ammo, so of course in my 1st play through i did the quest and everything to get her fixed up.
But now after that i pretty much always leave Cait addicted, mainly cuz you can give her Psycho and she will use it while fighting, also dump some Vodka in her inventory and shes a melee machine, i still feel bad when i go to talk to her and she ask about it again :(
I think she’s tried that but it didn’t seem to work.
Same I had the same thoguht the other day when I was doing that quest I am powering through getting all companions to max affinity or there personal quests
Just saw your comment and it got me thinking maybe it's a metaphors for when loved ones try to help them with addiction it's a long and dangerous journey but if you stick it out and help there is still hope for sobriety and to not give up no matter how hard it seem.
I used to work with a huge number of drug users, addicts, alcoholics etc, and every one of them, if you could get them to talk to you honestly, would say there is no such thing as an ex-addict.
There is no cure for addiction, just the willpower to overcome it. There is cures for physical addictions but the mental addiction will always be there. 5 years isn't enough time for temptation from mental addiction to be manageable such as an alcoholic being around people that are drinking and not have to struggle with the temptation. First you want to quit, then it is a lifetime of quitting and learning coping mechanisms to fight the temptation. The addicts in the vault probably didn't want to quit and didn't build any mechanisms to fight temptation, just ways to cope with no access.
I'd argue that. I dropped a pretty wicked addiction, no urge to pick the stuff up anymore.
Honestly, I kinda resent being called one. I've been clean for 10 years, without a single sniff of any of my drugs of choice. Ain't like I can't find it, either. I just have more important shit to do than to lie around in a dope-coma all day, and honestly I'm pretty proud of overcoming what I did.
But, I'm also not fond of the AA approach. If it works for people, good, but a lot of what they do just rubs me the wrong way. Part of which, saying "you're an addict and you have no power"? Bullshit, even if you're working the program you took those steps. And you deserve praise for it, not reminders that any day you can fuck up. If you're there, you're aware enough. If you're not, it's morale-killing, and hanging out with a bunch of people reliving the old days ain't gonna help you move past it.
You weren't addicted then. Addiction isn't something that goes away instantly or even quickly. It is just like an excessive compulsive behavior disorder or a phobia, it takes years to truly overcome and can come back in an instant. Addiction is a need for whatever someone is addicted to that is not a desire. they may desire it but they also feel they need it and the need feeling never goes away. You desired your drug of choice and may have been physically addicted but you were not mentally addicted. Once the physical addiction was broken and you no longer desired the drug due to a lifestyle choice you were free and clear and can even use that drug during a new years celebration and not touch it again.
An addict cannot do that, they must remain vigilant and not ever use again because they will quickly revert to the stage they were in when they decided to quit. An addict struggles everyday because they know they will return to that stage if they give in to temptation. For some addicts 50 years of not touching their addiction then using will return them to the state they fought so hard to avoid.
Did you honestly just try to tell me that I wasn't hooked on heroin for 10 years?
Yeah, I have no urge, because it's fucking heroin, and it almost killed me. I'm not even touching this conversation again, and you should be FUCKING ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
What do they say about pretending to understand someone else's addictions? Right, don't. That's pretty fucked up, man. You don't know me from Atom, so don't do that. I can't even...
Evil Taco, you clearly didn't read their comment, because they're right. There are two kinds of addiction; physical and mental. You obviously only had a physical addiction, because if you had a mental addiction you would NOT have been able to overcome it so quickly. What you completely ignored is that he wasn't invalidating your experiences; he phrased it badly, but what he was trying to say is that you got lucky in terms of how addicted you got. People who are MENTALLY addicted can have their drug of choice almost kill them, and they'll STILL go back to it. If you were mentally addicted you would still have the urge now.
Everyone's personal experiences are slightly different, but the human brain and how it works does not actually differ that much from person to person. It's designed to work a certain way, and that's usually what happens. Addiction, for that reason, also usually works in a similar way from person to person. With all due respect you're not a special snowflake, and it's simply not true that no one can understand what you've been through. Plenty of others have been through the exact same thing, based purely on statistics. You can talk about what your subjective mind has made of your experiences all you want, and some of it will be accurate; but your experiences as viewed through your own eyes ARE subjective and cannot overrule the objective nature of science. According to science, it is highly unlikely you suffered from a strong mental dependence on Heroin; it's far more likely you simply suffered from a strong PHYSICAL dependence. That's only degrading your experiences if you DECIDE it is.
When I came to this vault, I knew nothing about Cait's companion quest. It was just, "Oh, hey, here's a vault; let's see what's here!"
Thing is, I'm a social worker. I've spent most of the last two years working with recovering addicts.
For the first time, these skeletons were not nameless victims of an alternate timeline. They were people I cared about. People I worked with every day. I knew their stories, cried with them, laughed with them, educated and advocated for them. I've been to AA meetings, I'm quite familiar with the program. I recognized the circle of chairs and plethora of coffee cups. I've personally seen the desperation in the eyes of an addict tempted by relapse. I've listened to the anguished voices of family members, searching for anything to save their daughter, their sister. I've comforted those who lost someone to one last high.
I've been disgusted by Vault Tec before, but this was personal - Vault Tec murdered people I loved. I was so shaken afterward, I had to stop playing for awhile. No game has ever affected me so deeply, before or since.
Nice to hear from a social workers perspective.
Is only game why u haff to be mad
Anton Khalamayzer He isn’t _mad,_ he’s upset, he’s upset because... Don’t even worry about it. You wouldn’t get it even if I explained it to you.
@@ladyalicent705 I just want you to know that this was the perfect comment.
There are those among us who simply cannot and/or will not understand some things.
This story makes you so upset not because you forget that this is only a game, but rather because you know that there are people and corporations in the real world, who do exactly what is depicted in this game.
getting through all this trouble to cure addiction?Hang on
*checks backpack*
Here you go Cait *gives addictol*
I 'member
Here yah go Cait, have a Radscorpion omelet.
Serpentar9000 Like she said would not be enough, actually the only way to cure her was the quest made to... Well... F***ing cure her... Did you actually listen to anything about her?
Matthias Millois its a cheap plot point, ive gotten addicted to every chem in f03, fo4, and nv at the same time and addictol or a doctor could fix it no problem
Richard Head were you addicted to them for literally years in your character's time? She obviously has a far more severe addiction level that addictol can't help.
beginning of this story:
well, that's just lovely of vault-tec for a change!
hears end:
really vault-tec? why?
In theory this could have been the best vault in the world far beyond the Control vaults as they could have saved people from death and their addictions. Sadly humans cannot have nice things as they are all too narrow minded to look past their own hand that is jamming drugs into their skin.
what about circle of dead people in the overseers room with coffee cups? 1:34
looks like a suicide pact don't you think? They all have coffee cups beside each body, looks like there were sitting in circle, doesn't look like there any kind of fight going on, and no drug signs of drugs in that room...
One last meeting.
*sees that Oxhorn has uploaded a new video*
This day just got better
Heisen The Berg yes it has
we won the vote last night when he did a livestream
Peyton Hines the fuck are you talking about
Heisen The Berg I'm making a joke
Heisen The Berg very true
Heisen The Berg That is very true, very much on mondays
I honestly feel the pain of this vault. I've been in recovery for quite some time. I'm newer to fallout, but this vault breaks my heart. Life is hard enough. Although 5 years in I'd have thought some would have resisted. I'm 3 years and I work as a bartender. I just know 1 wrong choice and I go back to my old life. Not the easiest thing to do back everyone is responsible for their decisions.
One of the most cruel of Vault-Tec's experiments.
General Modder its vault tech though they basically condoned human sacrifice to survive at Vault 11 in NV
True, true.
Vault 68 was pretty fucked up, too.
***** 999 men, 1 woman
Vault 69 had the opposite with 999 women and 1 man
Elijah Jackson wait wouldn't be a dream come true for that 1 man and 999 women
I would love to see one day in fallout lore a vault that houses all the vault tech scientists and that is where they record all the results of the tests ... because currently all we know is the test data is pointless
dude you've got to be my favorite lore story teller because you philosophize at the end of all of them and to me that sets you apart from the rest
6:49 Sure it wasn't pleasant? Those moans sound rather... suggestive
To cure addiction your body would have to feel a high greater than the high you experienced by taking the drugs to make you never desire to slip up and use drugs again. So yeah it would have been incredibly pleasant for her at the same time slightly painful being stabbed.
cld1472 what? Thats exactly 100% opposite of correct, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about
My wife came rushing to the room on that part lol
@@cld1472 lol
@@Pir-o true
Since Cait never goes back onto chems, we know that people can be changed by the treatment available in Vault 95. I would venture that some of the original Vault 95 residents refused to use the supply of chems when it was revealed. They may even have suggested destroying them. Unfortunately, those who succumbed to temptation apparently killed their fellows who tried to stop them.
Cait also has you, a friend who was there to support her and help her. The only person who was actually good to her. She does not have the negative effects of addiction anymore, and has a friend who will help her if she ever thinks about it again. Whereas the dwellers in Vault 95 had nothing but other dwellers firing at each other for a handful of drugs. Even the one we know about states that his life here is not better than above the ground. If he had someone like the Lone Survivor to help him, maybe he would not have fallen too.
I don't doubt SOME definitely had kicked the habit. The only problem is that a knife or gun'll kill even more effectively than OD and if somebody's standing in the way of a junkie's stash, things are gonna go bad.
I skipped past the part when cait was moaning seeing how my phone was on full volume when it started and I was like *fuck I don't want people to think I'm watching porn!*
Fallout 4 on your phone?
Wat?
@@Ludovicus1769 It's probably that he was watching this video on his phone, and is referring to the part of the video where Cait starts moaning. He probably wasn't actually playing Fallout 4 on his phone.
Vault 95 is, in my opinion, one of the most sickening Vaults in the game. I've never dealt with addiction myself, but I've helped friends and family cope with their own. Such a vile, pointless betrayal actually made me stop and shiver as I cleared 95. The whole Vault Experiment really does make me wish that some Fallout game would have us discover one of Vault-Tek secret facilities, filled with people that still considered themselves VT employees, similar to Overseer Barstow in 88. Still devoted to Braun's sadistic project and still as vile and evil as they were before the bombs.
All for the purpose of dispensing proper justice, of course. In my case, it wouldn't be gunfire. It'd be to sabotage the vault so that all of them are forced to scrounge for a semblance of life on the surface, in a world their kind created.
As for the Jet lore flub, it's pretty easy to justify. Jet is prewar, Myron just rediscovered it, and developed a new way of cooking it.
Evan Ulven Vault 75 is worst with the whole thing of killing kids to create the "perfect human" for an army which became the Gunners (apparently)
I personally would rather pick up a big bag of predator grenades, go to the glowing sea, and throw a trail of them all the way back to that vault to provide the deathclaws with a once-in-a-lifetime pre-war diet, but to each their own.
I believe what you’re looking for is the Enclave in Fallout 2 and 3. Aren’t they descendants of Vault-Tec, as well as the American government?
Vault-Tek should be a small faction in the next game.
I wish we could get to see these vaults while they were still operational, that would be very cool.
In my headcanon Jet was extremely rare and couldn't be found anywhere else but a Vault so the boy found the recipe for Jet and remade it.
ok m
Well your story is very similar to the real in fallout 2 there is a boy who reinvented jet because the recipe was lost after the great his name is Myron his able to be a complain as well check it out ruclips.net/video/pljgR5OAqRc/видео.html
He still technically invented it as the company never utilized the protein in the way Myron did. If they had, we would have seen evidence somewhere that the police HEAVILY regulated cattle farms and farmers because if anyone did discover this, it would have been even more epidemic than our real world meth problem. It would have caused a near instant widespread addiction epidemic with near limitless supply. With the spread of the protein at the level it is, if it was discovered, it would have been common knowledge to any prewar ghoul and would have been already being made and sold all over the place prior to Myron’s birth. Every single farmer with a brammin would be making Jet for extra income. There would be NO way not one cattle farmer from pre-war time died before the war without knowledge of the amphetamine produced if it was known about. The protein wouldn’t have been distributed like it was if it had been. The amphetamine wasn’t the actual reason for the proteins failure, but a by-product of it’s method of distribution and use when it didn’t work as intended.
Jet is basically Methamphetamine. Both make you feel faster mentally and physically and are highly addictive. Amphetamines were invented in 1887 and Methamphetamine was invented in 1917. So it would need to be reinvented once the original stock pile dwindled.
cld1472 that is as of yet the best pro-Bethesda retcon argument I’ve heard. So basically if it existed pre-divergence, in this case 1887, than it existed period, and would logically have to be a “rediscovery” in the post war world. Good on ya!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Anybody else love it the most when he does videos on vaults and inhabited towns?
Ox you got deep at the end my man
So, this vault is a research facility based on the premise of B.F. Skinner and the Positive Reinforcement theory.
Interesting.
Jet will always be a post war drug. I consider jet being in 95 a Bethesda fuck up or if it isn't and they have the balls and say that jet is pre-war I'll just treat it like Bethesda treats tactics and brotherhood, NOT FUCKEN CANON.
The Eternal Chronicler
I'm hoping for a canon explanation in a future game.
RG07 Gaming
We must remember, this is Bethesda's game. They have the creative liberty to do what they want with the title, even if us fans don't always agree.
The Eternal Chronicler I guess you can say that your having a fallout with Bethesda
I think the bigger explanation is that it could always be Myrion is a lying turd. He claimed to have invented Jet,but hell,even the Soul Survivor can manufacture Jet. It's possible he just came up with a new variation.
Could very well be that he just rediscovered a way to make the pre-war drug. And then the recipe spread, because it's been quite a while since Fallout 2 in-universe. Like how meth's recipe spread so quickly and pervasively, it'd be hard to keep a bottle on a recipe for something that popular. Demand would far outstrip supply.
Honestly, the one that confuses me more, as to why more people don't question? Why the fuck do they use bottle caps on the east coast? They were basically tied to the water barons in the Hub on the west coast, they make NO sense as a currency without some backing. They're bulky, heavy in large quantities, and there are oodles of things that'd make more sense. Like, as in Metro, ammunition. At least that has a use, which would fit in a barter system.
It's actually a beef I have with New Vegas, as well. Water backs the NCR dollar. Directly from the Hub, in fact. Caps? They make no sense anymore, paper scrip is way lighter and is backed by the exact same commodity.
This gives me a wonderful feeling. Knowing that I can still be surrounded by my addiction and places to "enjoy" and not fall back to it... I feel more recovered now than ever.
I'm taking Cait to vault 95 today...
Silly commenter you say you are taking here there today but you have said the same thing for over a year now. Shit or get off the pot :P lol
cld1472 oh I thought it was Piss or get off the pot
Yo Its been 3 years how was the ending of f4?
@@firepigno2770 lol
"a life time supply of drugs and booze" stored in a room small enough that you cant even fall over...sure. eighter the guy exaggerated massively or bethesda doenst care about "realistics volumes"
dharkbizkit im not even an addict and i could burn through that whole closet in a few months by myself
Buddy that stash is the size of a wine collection curated by a mediocre middle age white dad who doesn't understand that some wines turn to vinegar because you're not supposed to keep them.
I love how this game is so much deeper than most people realise.
Loved that you turned the moral around at the end
Great Video Oxhorn. I gotta say this as someone who has battled addiction myself. It's very common for people who don't suffer from addictions to believe that there must be a way to "cure" it. I hear it all the time. even my own family thought after nearly 5 years of sobriety that I wouldn't ever have to deal with it again. But for myself all it took was the death of a relative and the collapse of my health to send me back to my old behaviors. The trouble is that the "disease" of addiction, if it can be crudely referred to as such, centers in the mind. Given enough reason, anyone can become an addict. To be honest it's quite obvious that whoever did this part of the game in my oppinion must have a history of addiction themselves. Bethesda did way to perfect of a job creating the social, mental and physical markups of a real treatment center. Especially the mental. like you said Oxhorn these people were for all intensive purposes "cured." Absence can be a cure but since we live in a world where that isn't possible, it isn't a practical one. and even when these people were reintroduced to the chems after 5 years, a lot of them wanted to keep on going with the program. The only thing I find completely rediculous is the chair. it's totally not at all based on science but I guess for stories reasons bethesda had to come up with something to help Cait. I'm glad that they included something like this in the game though because the only way to overcome stigmas is to expose people more and more to the realities of things like addiction. And yes I'm aware it's a game. Again great Video Oxhorn. love to hear your Lore Videos. You offer an excellent view of things with your opinions and such but still manage to be totally respectfull. I love it.
Imo this is one of the saddest vaults. As a recovered addict this one hits close to home especially when you're trying to do everything absolutely right and something goes wrong. Tragic.
Every video you make is so insightful, it really does the lore of this game some justice. I love your channel so much.
Thanks for watching!
i gotta say that I've watched a few of your videos and that ending was the one that mad me a subscriber. You got a way that makes these lore videos just a step above everything else. Keep up the great work!!
Can you do a lore on MacCready ? (from Fallout 3 to Fallout 4)
On the surface :A legit Detox vault to get people off chem and their addictions.
Me: It's vault- tec nothing is legit. What does the coffee have human blood in it or whiskey?
“It doesn’t look like a very pleasant procedure”
Sure sounds like it.
6:30
These videos have actually helped me sleep, I've suffered from insomnia and somniphobia for years and it's been wearing on my physical and mental health, being able to listen to these videos at night has helped me tons.
thanks obama
Those moans were scary O_O it actually sounded like someone was killing her at the studio..
6:30 my PC volume was waay TOO loud at that point, it took me a while to turn it down and maybe my parents tought I was watching something else...
The whole jet argument never bothered me. It could of been a new type of chem, that was extremely addictive. After all we also found out ghouls existed pre-war as well. So I actually prefer that the kid reinvented a experimental chem.
Just realized that last year when I was really into fallout you helped me with most of the lore of fallout thanks man
So vault 95 proved, that even when addictions are beaten when people are introduced to the same shit again they will easily go back into it.
Well in the real world, we see celebrities go back and forth from home and "rehab"...
I say that 99.9999999% of the time *"recovering" addicts will always hit it again when they see it presented...
As we saw not all of them fell off the wagon so quickly. For at least some the program was working however stress can be a nasty trigger that can cause an addict to relapse, like the one guy whose computer entries that were read only started up with the chems when he had lost all hope both in the vault and of the outside world.
agreed, it's a vastly different thing to be a coke addict in real life and then quit and never touch it again for at least say 5 to 10 years than it is to be say a coke addict that tries to do the same thing, but then suddenly world war 3 breaks out and you lose all hope during it and relapse to coke, where one dude has a at the very least stable life, the other has no idea wether he'll survive another day
TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA Once an addict, always an addict. You are either an addict or a recovering addict but nevertheless, still an addict.
So does this mean true rehabilitation is impossible?
I love your Fallout 4 lore videos or full story videos. They really make me think about some of the things I missed when playing through and makes me want to go back and play it again.
This is one of my personal favorites of the lore videos you've made. It reminds me that there are many things we use as coping mechanisms against addictive behavior, including gaming. I personally have used gaming as a mental recovery several times in the past when big events shook me. It's like getting lost in a good book that inspired you to do more with your life. Thanks! :)
i just wanted to say that i found your commentary on addiction and human nature very thought provoking and hit really close to home. youre a very deep thinker sir, i appreciate that
We learn that only a few of them instantly give in and start to take the chems
Maybe it was the stress that caused the others to start as well, just like the guy who left these entries on his terminal
So I think those others must have been somewhat cured of their addiction
I love this video. I’m happy that I’ve found your channel just as I’m finally falling in love with Fallout 4 (after 375+ hours of game time). This vault’s story was especially gruesome and I wanted to hear from someone else that had discovered the story behind it. Bravo. Excellent script work.
Thank you again Ox. Vault Tec is evil, to be sure. Another interesting Vault experiment. Definitely worth getting Kate clean. I know that, in game, the chems a re a huge help, but i never willingly use them.
AlphaGator9 Without vault tech the wasteland would be fucked like no tomorrow.
The Eternal Chronicler true but what they have done is wrong
AlphaGator9 same here I don't like using the drugs and I think it sooo worth it clean cait up
And yet, people in the wasteland have survived, without the Vault Dweller, the Chosen One, Lone Wanderer, the Courier, or the Sole Survivor. The subjects of their experiments were not only duped into participating in the experiments, they were promised the survival of unimaginable horrors, and instead, became subjected to far worse things - using guile and trust.
The ends, do not justify the means, in my opinion.
AlphaGator9 without the vault dweller there would be no ncr and the masters supermutant army would go unchallenged and slowly make mankind extinct.
Without the chosen one the enclave would have committed genocide.
Without the lone wander there be no wasteland survivors guide, and would not be able to stop the enclave from their second attempt of genocide or stop the super-human menace.
We are still unaware of the ramifications of the couriers actions.
Without the the sole survivor the Institute would still be a menace to the Commonwealth.
Without vault-tec the wasteland would worse off.
Sometimes the ends justifie the means.
Oxhorn is so full of wisdom and whenever I’m feeling sad I get a big old spoon some Häagen-Dazs ice cream and I just sit down and watch Oxhorn and everything just goes away 😂😂😂
As an addict i really connected with this video
Same, but Im a recovering alcoholic. It really hit hard.
Oxhorn is just the chad that you would give a hug and lay there listening to his voice all day
This is such a good video and I feel it really does sum up the connection between humans and addiction
Sudden deprivation may seem to work, but, like painkillers, it only works as long as it's present and potent enough, and once it's gone, the addiction may come back as strong, if not stronger, than before due to the person thinking that he has to have more to regain what he lost, so unless u can permanently deprive said person of temptations for his life, there has to be a better way of solving the issue of addiction.
Once again an amazing video I must say
Loved your ending explanation of the struggles one may go through while trying to detox. it was very philosophical and well said. thank you for your content!
Am I the only who start singing 🎶 *IIITS AAAL OVER* 🎶 When he said "Its all over"?
Daniel Šušuk BUT THE CRRRRRRRYYYYIIIINNG
AND NOOOOBODYY IS CRYYYING BUT MEEEE
Amir Granderson Fixed. Thanks mate!
Nobodys cringing but me
Daniel Šušuk meh
I just ran through this vault, and I completely missed the overseer's office. I didn't really get much out of the other bits of story either. But Ox's take on it was super interesting. I never would have thought about it that deeply.
If you didnt know or saw what happens to Cait on that machine, slightly other "activity" would come to your mind with those noises of hers.
To truly cure an addiction your normal not drugged up body would have to feel a high that is far greater than any high the drug could ever give you to make it pointless to even consider using drugs again. So yeah she got her rocks off so to speak as she would have experienced the greatest high she ever knew from then on by not being on drugs.
cld1472 that's not a chem addiction remover that's a dildo chair
Your vids are most excellent man. They have answered like 90% of my lore related questions. keep up the good work.
Jet was not created until after the Great War, making it impossible for it to be in Vault 95 for the residents to use.
The theories are that the kid rediscovered how to make jet
In the oversear room(with Deacon as a companion)
Deacon:Hay, i'm Deacon
Deacon with funny voice:Hay Deacon
I know this story all too well.
To anyone out there suffering with addiction, youre not alone
The ending of this video really touched me. Love is so important. I've been sober eight years. Now I volunteer at a foodbank/outreach place and a lot of the people who come in have challenging behaviours (including drinking and using on the premises), but really respond to a bit of care and respect. It's hard to let yourself be loved when you feel so wretched and unlovable. That's something you have to learn. But it's a wonderful thing.
If you enter the overseers office with Piper she will say something like "They were just 1 round away form finishing musical chairs." something to that degree, try it out
Hi, Oxhorn!
Going through your fantastic Fallout4 videos, I have one question, or two :)
Is it meaningful to equip traders between your settlements with weapons and armor or don't they get attacked by game characters?
Or do they take what they need in firearms and ammunition from your settlements or does the game let them produce weapons miraculously?
It's a pain in the ass to micromanage the settlements and each and every settler. (They don't even harvest their crops so that you can use it.)
How do you gather so much information about not only the games details but the game mechanic?
No, it's not necessary aside from roleplaying reasons. Settlers running supply lines are invulnerable on their route. But they can get downed in a fight and might get "stuck" but you never lose that supply line.
I was a hardcore “active” drug addict for 13 years and no shit this game is what saved me from the active addiction when I got it for Christmas years ago. I didn’t know a video game could have an impact like that but I’m still sober years later. I remember finding this vault with Kait I think it is and then I read about it and put myself in the shoes of those people in the vault and thought about all the mayhem and sadness that would happen after they let all those chems be taken freely. Still freaks me out to this day
6:29 Close your eyes and just listen
Sounds like she making a baby or become one.
Coming from an addict who has been clean for 2 years, I can say you are completely 100% right when you said the person has to want to change. You can try to help an addict and they may get clean for a bit, but if they don't make the decision to get clean themselves they'll usually end up relapsing once they hit a bump in the road. They have to want to be done with it.
Great video and input Ox, as always.
SO HISTORY ON ROUGH KNIGHT!!
attemt 1
ALSO DO HISTORY OF CAIT
Boom Head Shot so what's up with your keyboard?
yeah
That commentary went a different way than I expected. Good vid
This is why Cait's my favorite character. 95's story really hit close to home for me in a lot of ways.
I will take Matt Mercer any day of the week, he can help me kill raiders and be my DM when not scavenging around the world.
Hey Oxhorn, I love your content! I have an idea for a kinda long episode, where you discuss the origins of Jet, beginning in FO2 then discuss theories on how Jet arrived in the east, then maybe touch on situations like in this video where the canon doesn't match where Jet is located.
I'm sorry but the story is hilarious. I've been to rehab and can imagine opening a closet and finding a huge stash of drugs. Having everyone go nuts and die. The dyeing part isn't so funny but you get my point I hope.
This is actually inspiring me to have a playthrough where I never take chems at all. I think that I would never take drugs, and that this should reflect on my character. Thanks for the video. I have been in this place multiple times, read and discovered everything, but it never had an impact on me or made me think about it, except for when I watched this video.
Hey Oxhorn, could you do a video about the Deathclaw Preservation Seciety? I remember Deacon talking about them and I wanted to know more about it.
Thanks Oxhorn for showing us how complex and beautiful fallout is ...i really enjoy your videos and your narration is just superb . THANKS
*assultron dies*
Me a gunner: imma head out cya!
Your videos, like this one, about the fallout vaults is so good. You have a great narrating voice!
The Jet lore "problem" is quite easily reconciled, if some thought is put to it...
The boy genius did "invent" Jet, in the sense that he figured out a way to replicate the drug's effects using postwar ingredients and techniques.
But Jet existed in a prewar version as well, made using materials and utilizing technology now so long lost as to be impossible and forgotten. Evidence suggesting this is located in the terminal belonging to the secret chems dealer in Sanctuary Hills - while Jet is not directly mentioned, several other chems like Psycho and Buffout are, as well as less-common ones like Daytripper and Daddy-O, suggesting that prewar versions of all the postwar chems existed.
So, as far as most know, the boy invented it, even if all he really did was secretly reverse-engineer samples of the prewar version.
Just how he might've gotten his hands on a prewar version is uncertain, but if Vault 95's contents suggest anything, he probably might've obtained some by either raiding a vault himself, or buying it from someone else who did the raiding.
the problem with that is Jet is an extremely addictive amphetamine in Fallout 2 in Fallout 4 its a combat drug that for some reason everyone got they're hands on. But honestly Fallout 4 has a lot of continuity problems throughout the whole game. Like Danse saying the Enclave was a rouge Brotherhood of Steel branch is impossible. That would make them a US government sanctioned rouge branch of a unit that went rouge form the US government then became the US government somehow.
Amphetamine was created in 1887, Methamphetamine was created in 1917. Both are highly addictive and both make the user feel faster both mentally and physically. So there is no lore problem, the only explanation needed is that Meth started to run out and the boy in FO2 invented a new way to make Meth and called it Jet. Every game since has had enough time for the new term to have traveled across country so even Meth found in vaults could be called Jet by the new world.
cld1472 The problem with that is Fallout 4 says Jet is a combat drug so why are middle class civilians easily getting they're hands on it in those numbers? As why is meth being used as a combat drug in the first place? Do you really want to make a solider twitchy just to stop him/her from feeling pain? That's not a good idea. Also Jet or anything like it wasn't in Fallout 1 so (in Californian at least) meth didn't exist from 2161-2241 (Fallout 1 to 2) then its all over the US in 36 years without things like cars and planes when Fallout 3 starts? I don't buy that. You also got to remember DC is on the other side of the country and there isn't much as far as trade out there. There is no Hub or New Vegas or NCR there so its not somewhere people would rush a drug to.
Dagonofthedepths, you need to learn more about drugs man. Meth was created in 1917 but was not made illegal until the 1970's. Considering the worlds split completely in the 1950's the drug could easily have not been made illegal and thus making it fairly easy to explain why it would be able to be so easy to obtain. Meth made in a lab is easy and safe to make but once those labs are bombed it would die out rather quickly as you have surely heard of Meth labs in our world exploding. And yeah someone who can act more quickly in combat is a good thing I am sure between 1920 and 1970 our governments thought about using it as a combat enhancing drug if they did not really do so. And yes Jet did not exist between 2161 and 2241 and Meth was so hard and dangerous to make that anyone who knew how to make it was long dead to make more at those times be it from natural causes or an explosion. The later is more likely to be honest.
cld1472
Your forgetting squad based combat. Being 2x fast doesn't help vs 10 men trying to kill you and if you are so tweaked out of your mind you might shoot your friends that's a huge problem Meth also can make the user focus on one thing which again can be a big problem in combat if you need to be aware of your surroundings. Besides no matter how slow time is moving unless you can more super fast your not dodging bullets moving 300m/s
Now that said Jet's description in Fallout 2 is not the same as Fallout 4. Fallout 2 Jet is basically Crystal Meth, 4 is unknown and they honestly don't really do the same thing. All Fallout 2 did was give you +1 to strength and perception and = 2 ap for 5 mins then drops your strength and perception by -4 when you come down addicted or no. That is insanely stupid to use in a fire fight. Fallout 3-4 it slows time and has no real ill effects unless addiction kicks in.
The purpose was totally different as the thing that made Jet Jet and not Meth in Fallout 2 was it was MORE addictive than traditional Meth was (which was the point. It was made to make money and addicted people will spend more). Another thing is that yeah someone might have thought of using Meth in 1970 but its 2018 know. the Resource Wars in Fallout started in 2052. Yeah the US military was really unethical but that's a drug for suicide attacks plus they already had Pyscho.
The only way I have understand fallout is by watching your videos. I usually don't read the terminals or notes but you and that mysterious and suav and sexy voice gets the story in order and add spice to it making it better to understand. I eaven raid places and then search if you have the story for the dungeon I have finished and hear it from you with the added bonus of a bit of theory and eaven adding a bit of soul to the story. Thanks allot and merry Christmas
What I found unrealistic is how loyal these vault tech employees are in executing their instructions. Especially after a long time and in the face of the end of the world.
Not much different than real life, people follow orders blindly for no reason
I like to explore these areas on my own and then come back and listen to your vids. I had fallout4 when it first came out and I wasnt that into it. Mind you I have played 3 and new vegas and liked both. I think the settlements was a bit much for me starting out. But ive just repurchased it and ive been playing non stop
Anywho, I love your vids because I consistently overlook and miss details about the lore of locations I explore and you just do a nice little recap. Much appreciated!
i was an addict for quite a while, I was an alcoholic by age 15 and drank almost daily till 18. I nearly died in my sleep from alcohol poisoning. I quit the following day cold Turkey. I am 28 now so I have been sober for 10 years now😃
That's sad.... why did you drink
Grats on the 10 years sober!
B.A.D. for lyfe that is amazing keep going😃😃
I am proud of you but at the same time very unproud of you. I am proud that you have been clean for so long and that you are happy with your life enough to not go back, it is a thing not everyone can do. I am unproud of you though that you think you are not still an addict, you are a recovering addict and will be until the day you die. No matter how much you want others to believe you would not enjoy the taste of a single beer you and me both know you would love one but you do not wish to become dependent on alcohol every again. An addict is completely submissive to their addiction, an exaddict is naive enough to think they are completely free, a recovering addict knows he is chained up for life by the addiction but would rather struggle against those chains to not use than to submit his/her life to the drugs ever again.
B.A.D. for lyfe awesome dude!!!! I'm so proud of you for that.
Ox you just changed my life, god bless and happy thanksgiving
I don't think that mere deprivation of an addiction, or temptation is a true cure, the underlying causes and motivation that lead to the addiction need to be dealt with, and while outside help a lot, the addicted person needs to look in themselves for change. I myself am dealing with an addiction, and it is a very complex struggle to deal with, and it seems that most people don't really understand how to help
Jefferson DeMott I hope u can get over ur addiction
CommanderDorko 002 thanks.
if u dont mind me asking, what are you addicted to?
Mountain Lion sorry, but I'd rather not say, it's a mental addiction and to be honest I'm a little embarrassed by it
Jefferson DeMott The vast majority of addiction is mental. I was a smoker for 12 years, then one day I simply made the decision to stop. It sucked, but I stopped. It's been three years since my last cigarette. I didn't need any gum or patches, I just needed some mental fortitude. Stick with it.
I actually have a Masters in Psychology and I've got to say that the way Vault 95 treats addiction is about as realistic as the stories behind any of the other vaults. Recovering addicts won't go at each other's throats after 5 years sober, they won't all OD when presented with a lifetime supply of their substance of choice. They'll just, well...start using again.
As for Jet. I think that's one of the things that fell between the cracks on the continuity check in F4.
Statistically speaking 40 to 60 percent of all recovering drug addicts will relapse. 75 percent of recovering drug addicts have reported to have done violent acts while in recovery. 95 subjects entered so between 38 and 57 of those will relapse. And between 28.5 and 42.75 will be violent in nature pertaining drugs your thesis that it is unrealistic is majorly flawed. Once those doors to the drugs opened they would all fend for their addiction and the chances of complete anarchy would be probable.
As for the Jet thing and you thinking it is a continuity issue, well simply it is not. In 1887 Germans invented Amphetamines, in 1917 Japanese invented Methamphetamine. Meth and Jet are both highly addictive drugs that make the user feel faster both mentally and physically. While Buffouts are basically Steroids, Psycho is basically PCP, and MedX is basically an addictive form of Marijuana all of those are fairly easy to create. Meth on the other hand is very dangerous to create and likely to kill the creator. The bombs dropped in 2077 and FO2 starts in 2241 with 164 years between. Chances are Meth died out decades if not a century prior to FO2 so when the kid in FO2 created Jet he did create something that was not found in the world at that time due to over use in the past. But as vaults were opened Meth would have been located and would be called Jet as it did the same thing. So in reality he reinvented Meth and called it Jet.
I would like think we all can change are Demons. As long we hold Hope in are Harts.
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You have some great content sir! Love the videos! Subscribed and belled.
Really liked how you ended the video with "can people be changed with a pill and needle? In fallout yes, but in reality no. For it is our loving friends and family plus genuine feeling to change that cures us."
I just blew up the Institute guys. =D
Ad Victoriam!
Ad Victoriam Sentinel
You fool, we didn't want to destroy everyone. We wanted to preserve humanity and rebuild earth... You have destroyed the Enclave, and now the second best hope for humanity. You imbeciles.
I prefer the institute, it's just the way I like to play but I love the minutemen i'm happy they can Co-Exist.
SebastianxW MEH GUNNERS ARE BETTER
@@atlasrules87 Only in their own vision. It appears to me that everybody else above ground hated the institute, and were rebuilding mankind just fine all on their own. Just not at a rapid pace!
these are so good just started playing and you make the game such a mystery thanks bud
I don't know if it is a big thing, but I would really like to see a lore video on that kid in the fridge. I just don't understand why he's there.
Anonymous 0ne Pete Hines or whatever his last name is said previously that the kid in the fridge quest was suppose to be a wild wasteland moment. I personally thought that was a cop out answer and was just covering his ass be caused they screwed up because of how stupid and nonsensical the quest is. Consider the kid in the fridge quest line non-canon.
The Eternal Chronicler oh ok
WhatComesAfter Z? his name is Billy Peabody he has a vid about it
The answer is simple the boy is in the fridge cause he couldnt get the door open... boom next question please.
Being a security guard for a hospital, what he says about people with addictions is exactly right. I've seen multiple people just keep coming in like a revolving door. They'll never truly get free until they truly want to, you have to want to be addiction free before treatment can really take hold
pls do Caits story
This story truly makes me sad. But you got real deep there at the end. I love you man
WTF!? Why is she moaning!?
N. Sluiter it was probably a bit painful
Jamie Tisbury But then it would be screaming.
Lalanee Jarreau Okay, that makes scene.
I'm willing to bet that if the detox chair was written up, it'd be described as a high-pressure. full-body dialysis machine that *rapidly* cycles the occupants blood supply through a scrubber so as to not cause death via catastrophic loss of blood pressure. Even worse, it would have to cycle the blood several times to ensure there were no further contaminants. If regular dialysis machines are any benchmark, such a system would be beyond pure agony to use.
Because it hurts duh
Please do more of these lore videos, I really enjoy them
As an ex-morphine addict (prescribed because I live in constant, un-relenting pain) I can tell you that addictions are for life. I've been clean for five years. Personally, it's about will power but you can never be "cured".
Story line aside (intriguing as it is), Once you have 'cleared' the vault it is possible to create two settlements using the Conquest mod. The first workshop is placed in the entrance wherever you like - I placed mine near the elevator.
The second one is placed after taking the elevator (totally new interior cell). Then you have two HUGE build areas to play with. And if your like me and uses tools like Workshop Framework, Workshop Plus, Place Anywhere and Build Everywhere, You can build as much as you like wherever you want. Have fun... :)