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I just watched this video for the third time. It is great. It provides lots and lots of information. Thank you Aptera for keeping us abreast of the changes you are making and what you are doing. LOVE IT!
I wasn't particularly interested in this vehicle when it first debuted, but his description of their composite structures and the use of inline electric motors has me extremely excited for this to debut.
@@markplott4820 ya, there wasnt any real info in Nikki's video. It was a bit of a let down tbh. You didnt even get to see the car in its entirety, oddly. Better than nothing I guess.
@@alistairbalistair9596 - I suspect APTERA is a fraud and has NO Ability to Deliver ANY Vehicles to Customers, the went Bankrupt in the 2000's and sold their Technology to China in the Past. so, I think they will be Pumping and Dumping soon.
I think we are held back by its first attempts. This is a new era where innovative electrical vehicles are appreciated, admired, and purchased. Drive on aptera!
So the aerodynamics of this vehicle look almost identical to the Diamond 20 aircraft. I believe the 2006 Aptera team mentioned that was the base of the design. I can tell you from experience that you will still get bugs and wind noise and definitely road noise transferred. Silly comments from an engineer lol. Not that it has stopped me from pre-ordering one in the slightest as I essentially do a ~300 mile +/- 200miles road trip every week for work. 30-40 miles per day would mostly charge it back up while sitting in a hotel parking lot for the week.
Safe, efficient, and beautiful!!! Looking forward to seeing these on the road, and excited to be among the 1st to drive a production solar powered car!
I've already been a victim of Elio and more recently the Electra Meccanica Solo, but I have once again bought into a startup with high hopes - Aptera. PLEASE have some production rolling by next year. Everything here LOOKS like it's all rolling... but I'm pretty gun shy anymore...
Here's how you sell it. Aptera is extremely low maintenance and almost doesn't ever need to be charged. And the insurance cost is peanuts. Essentially the car pays for itself. It might actually be financially irresponsible for you NOT to buy one. You're welcome 😁!
Thank you! I'm working slowly on my wife--convinced her already to get the Cybertruck, so I don't know why this is a harder sell so far... Maybe she just said yes to the other one first? I love the costs--a penny a mile for power, give or take, right? Blows the competition away! And I would definitely get the solar upgrade so my commute is free.... I wanted the 2e back in the day, and I'm sure we will get one eventually..... :)
@@TheJesusFreeke I had to sell my wife on the Cybertruck by using it as a business asset as a rental. So I won't get to drive it much. I really want to get an Aptera now for the tech, the efficiency, and the zero wind noise on the freeway. I can feel any car I drive getting blown by cross breezes on the freeway, and hear the wind noise, so a vehicle with no wind resistance is super appealing.
a thought about the problem of the tail sliding in a quick turn like on the course if the outside front left tire sped up to compensate for the slide of the tail end? I love this car.
I an a fan of the concept. I like the idea of minimized consumption und long lasting materials. That’s one of the things I love on my i3, but nobody seems interested when I talk about the materials. It is something that average people don’t care, maybe because it has been normal to give away a car after 10 years as the body panels start to rust and they are not even interested to think about that is not a must but intended.
Most people buy EVs for the wrong reason: To show off and for the quick acceleration. Fuel efficiency is a mystery to most drivers. However as Charging is insanely expensive in Europe, even more so in Denmark where I'm from, They'll eventually get it and EVs will be listed with their WLTP rating in bold letters across the poster.
Was wonder if the solar panels will charge the car while driving, or dose it charge only while parked? Also anything in the future for a t-top or convertible?
It will charge as long as there is sunlight or at least discharge more slowly, depending on energy expenditure. T-top or convertible options are unlikely due to a decrease in safety or increase in weight.
I am 6'-2" tall and weigh 315 lbs. Will the Aptera's attitude change when I get behind the wheel? If so, by how much? Could the suspension be adjusted to accommodate my weight thus allowing the vehicle to sit level with me in it?
I have seen tons of info on this, and this issue has not been brought up so far, with lots of bigger people having rides in the prototypes, so I don’t think that it is an issue, as it is not with other cars…
Honda 4WS improves rapid lane change without putting a spin on the body (moose test). Also hold a straight line, resist cross winds, maneuver in the parking lot to quicken low-speed turning and reversing. Choice of Synergetic silverfish like motion, Front Only, Rear Only, Front/Rear Opposing, or Front/Rear Crab sideways.
If I didn't already have an EV I would definitely be interested in this. I think once people start seeing them on the road and at car shows and being reviewed etc then that will push it along even more.
@@markplott4820 They certainly have a lot to prove before they truly succeed. But even if it demonstrates safety, efficiency and performance there is still the giant hurdle of overcoming peoples' reaction to how it looks. Like the Tesla Cybertruck, it may take some time to get people on board with its visual appeal.
Exciting! Revolutionaries here. Mine will also use the Dyson fan technology and fly over water. Mine shall also have a “urinator” seat design by my cousin Trinitee as a bad bladder distracts from driving.
I'm wondering how the much lighter weight, high elastic deformation of the monocoque structure, and rapid elastic recovery times factor in severity of jolts/accelerations of occupants in collisions with heavier conventional vehicles (e.g., a 5,000 lb curb weight Suv)?
Being the namesake of the famous speed record holder, who died in a claggy crash, it is understandable that you ask this;). Chassis stifness in modern cars with electro tempered reinforcemnts already exceeds, the capability of the human body. An example is the Smart Car that keeps cabin integrity at 70kM/h head on concrete block crashes, however the occupants get mushed anyway. A bigger car with longer crumble zones, has the capability to deccelerate its occupans more gently, but a bigger car also brings more energy to a crash, so anybody outside the vehicle has higher mortality, so from a road safety perspective, bigger cars do not result in less severe accidents. What speaks for the Aptera is the teardrop shape. It has a highler likelyhood of skimping off angled collisions, which though also is dangerous, it breaks up the decceleration into survivable bits. Being a smaller car, also gives the driver more options to get out of a pinch. I drive a Fiat, which is 145cm wide, and I managed to fit on the raised center divider once when everybody else had crashes around me!
I am a Canadian, could you clarify the following please with respect to the harsh Canadian winters? * i get a feeling that the Wheel covers might make it get stuck in the snow. What are your thoughts on this? * do you think the chances for fishtailing is more during winter driving conditions because of the single rear wheel and cars make track on either side of the road and there will always be snow in the middle * What is the turning radius for Aptera? * Do you plan to include tank turn feature which could make the turning radius much more smaller since the rear wheel can be turned in the opposite direction of the turn.
I have noticed that one of the lead investors has a hifi background, and I would be surprised if he doesn't have some input. I am ordering the upgraded stereo, even though I don't have details yet. What I do know is that the cabin will be unusually quiet and should form an ideal environment for music.
Thanks for the reply.. what I had in mind was the kind of motorcycle trailers the size of a large luggage etc. that's designed for motorcycles. I was more concerned about a hitch option for the Aptera or any of that type of vehicle. I first hoped that same for the Elio, but I guess that car idea went by the way side. Year after year I was hoping to by one of the Elio. I have high hope for the Aptera.,🤓
would love the rear or side cameras to automatically start recording when someone or a car gets within a few side inches or foot or two in the rear. Any accidents like side swipes or rear ending can be recorded or saved before the automatic discard and rewriting. I love when the brake light blinks the first time the brakes are pressed it makes people notice a stop.
Will there be an off road version? I want it to be able to hop easily over road obstructions and damaged infastructure. As long as it has so many other many whistles why not offer a 007 package?
There actually is now an option for off-road kit as an add-on on the website… I live in a city with lots of potholes so I’m glad they have this feature
Honestly very excited about this car. It's like a electric elio, which I am pretty sure will never be in production. Also it was a gas car and that's now outdated. It actually looks like something from the future. I think it's very cool looking. Deffinately would be a head turner. Also I am curious as to how much range per day you would get from the solar panels full package. Also when solar panels go to new materials like graphene and become more efficient at capturing the suns energy. Imagine 100 miles a day range from solar. That would be a game changer. Most would never have to charge it accept on long road trips.
Love the idea - have three reserved, all with solar. With using a paint wrap why not use some of the emerging flexible PV tech instead of the clumsy current design? Please add my name for volunteer hooner.
How about incorporating and "Ideal ElectroMagnetic Field" environment in the cabin to nurture the driver & passengers, instead of creating unplanned EM outcomes ? Faraday shielding the motors, using superconductor motor windings - to eliminate the need for big, dangerous, expensive batteries, and properly positioning coils around the cabin space could do it ! This would replace the need for caffeinated drinks to be alert while driving.
Ultimately, I'd like to see an improvement in the window design for openness. Does the fan/vents and air conditioning keep the car cool inside under all conditions. Is there fog on the interior of the wind screen area? AF
Will Aptera have car to grid or car to load. As the car ages will you be able to change any faulty batter cells without the need to change the entire battery pack
Hi Steve, Chris, Nathan and the team. I was wondering whether you guys looked deeper into the rolling resistance issue with tires OEMs given the light weight of the vehicle and the three driving wheels configuration. The fact is that, despite the relative abundance of literature on the topic, I was astonished of the lack of progress in this field when it comes to availability of simulation friendly data about the rolling resistance deterministic factors from OEMs. In general what OEMs publish is a relative R value which generally is based on lab test results obtained on an ideal tire using a lab test setup whose basic design goes way back. Meaning that, correct me if I am wrong, there is no reliable commonly accepted approach which may apply to any class of tires despite the academic attempts. As if it were to say that every tire is a particular case and excuse me but tread design is far from being an engineering fact but rather a home made empirical deduction. I believe that this may well constitute an opportunity to develop a front and rear tires specifically for Aptera under the same paradigm shift as was done for the "Fuselage". We're talking about the other big chunk of Energy consumption here. Pls comment.
Not Aptera staff, but you are right. Even the "economy" rating on tire labels is divided into width classes, so you cant compare different types of tyres easily. a 6" wide tyre with an A rating has higher losses than a 4.5" tyre with a G rating! However as EVs are heavy, small lorry tyres are an option, they take 2-3 times the inflation pressure and exist in sizes suitable for cars, you can get them down to around 5" width. But generally, go for the skinniest wheel at the highest pressure rating, and be less concerned about what various reports say!
Seperating the front wheels from the passenger cell will deter a lot of potential buyers, an all enveloping body is more assuring/familiar for the masses. I just remembered, isn't the BMW Isetta a 3 wheeler not unlike the Aptera?
I would love to see some one from this company contact solar window, so the side and back windows could add to the self charging. At least the car will always start and go nomatter how long the car sits. Solar window is see through thats what is important with the charge.
The Aptera is already available with 3 square meters of 23% efficient solar panels, including on the dashboard, roof, hood and hatch window area, rated at 600 to 700 watts of power. Adding much lower efficiency solar windows to the side windows wouldn't add much.
I don't know this for sure but I don't think the cost is worth the expense for a vehicle the size of Aptera. At the moment Solar Window coating seems to only be valuable on structures with very large surface areas ie buildings.
@@apterareboot1555 ok I know even if the specs are low , I'm not sure myself how long solar window will last if applied, of course the panel system is tried and true.
This webinar succeeded in improving my view of Aptera. However, I still worry about how it can handle curbs and potholes. Also, it seems to me that efficiency will become less critical for EVs in the future as battery cost goes down, battery energy density goes up, and electric energy gets greener, less expensive, and more abundant.
Efficiency is still a fantastic point though, it just means the Aptera design will almost always be able to go farther with less energy, and that's always a positive prospect.
It will handle potholes fine however there are three tracks instead of two so you are 50% more likely to hit a pothole so you're going to hit 50% more of them
A quiet car is underrated, the more I find out about it the more I like the Aptera. Accessing the boot is impractical at best but unless you need more than two seats It doesn't make sense to buy anything else if a functional long term solution to transport is your primary motivtation
Getting to anything near the back seat will be difficult, basically to get anything out you have to lean over and inside to get your hand under it. Big long things at the back will need to be lifted up and over instead of just sliding them out the back.@@garywozniak7742
@@n.brucenelson5920 Thanks for sharing that! Usually I carry a 24 gallon plastic tub plus a insulated hot bag with a couple of treys of hot food in them. I think that would work!
Torn between fun of 2-passenger and social practicality of 4! Nathan, let's talk about non-lithium batteries with superior specific energy and energy density. It should be possible to dramatically reduce pack weight and increase capacity within a year or so. Also, we expect to double efficiency of solar thin film (printed-on-panel). Around 20 years of battery development, 50 years for the solar by our CTO. He got the first multi-junction, multi-crystalline thin film ceramic semiconductor PV patent -- faster semiconductor than gallium arsenide! -- in 1982. More than doubled modeled efficiency in the last year. I've sent an email in a while ago, and registered on the site.
I've felt the same way about 2 vs 4 passenger for a while not. The truth is that having a 4/5 passenger car is a BIG waste of money and energy 80% of the times. I have a 2 car household. My plan is to keep one 5 passenger car and replace one with an Aptera. This way I have one car for family trips and 1 Aptera for everyday use.
@@apterareboot1555 You do realise, that once they start rolling out your production line. RUclips will be full of people uploading Aptera camping videos on how to store a tent and fit a kitchen in it?
It's fiberglass with foam so it's extremely well insulated and so once it's down or up to temperature it uses next to no power. It uses a reversible heat pump so it's much more efficient, kind of like the heat pump that Tesla uses. It's like an air conditioner in reverse and for every 1 KW of energy it uses it can draw 4 KW of heat from outside to the inside. It could also use some of the waste heat from the motors. Cooling uses air conditioner but again, since it's well insulated it won't have to run very much. Unfortunately, it's still going to drain your battery, so if you're driving the entire way with the air conditioner on you will only get about 960 miles.
There are some supply chain issues, so the first models may come with resistance heat. The seats may have Peltier based heating and cooling. Cold weather will definitely impact range. Increased air density will have less of an impact than it does on most EVs due to the 0.13 Cd.
@@pilotavery Your perception of cold changes when you get an EV. Now it is not before it gets a handfull degrees below freezing and me being annoyed about fogging windows, before I turn on the heat.
@@n.brucenelson5920 In My regular EV, the most temperature dependant part, is my reduction gear: thick cold oil increases my low speed consumption by around 20%. Wheel motors don't have that problem.
I have an order in but I am concerned when I hear biodegradable, Mercedes did the same with s class in 90s and all wiring in the engine harness degraded with heat, same with VW toureg headlight wiring. I hope you guys don;t use it around warm stuff (like batteries and motors.eg )
Several of the people at Aptera are well aware of this history, and they have already discussed the issues in using soy based insulation as an attraction to rodent damage.
@@n.brucenelson5920 as a mechanical and electrical engineer, an old electric and manual bike maker friend of mine says it's true. I don't see anyone comparing two wheel to three or four wheel when doing a quick online search. Pretty sad how little known research there is on this
@@justin5646 The part that is true is that bikes have less rolling resistance. The most aerodynamically “slippery” motorcycle is the Suzuki Hayabusa which has a drag coefficient (cD) of about 0.55 to 0.60. Compare this with the Aptera cD of 0.13 All this information is out there.
I think at least one side door access to the trunk area is necessary. The rear of the vehicle is high so anything more than light bags and items are difficult to deal with.
Those wheel cowlings look like they would create a problem with crosswind. The rear one looks like a rudder, a large flat vertical wall, but he said crosswind is not an issue? Hmmm.
Heat pumps are planned. (Reversing valve for the A/C compressor.) A suitable one may not be available from the aftermarket in time for the first shipments, so some of the early vehicles may be supplied with resistance heating instead. We will have to see.
Love the idea of right to repair I'll be interested to purchase one so will be reserve mine soon . Am also interested in investing In the company would like info .
Definitely something coming down the line. Right now I think they're working on general road worthiness. And once they feel ready to start driving around in the streets, they'll start making models ready for crash testing.
@@apterareboot1555 thanks. Any stats at all on safety would be great. My main concern is how it'll take hitting a semi truck because I was in an accident with one and I was very glad to be in a volvo.. But I would also just like as many safety stats as possible..
@@stephensullivan1011 Sorry to hear that happened.. Glad you were in a safe car. Best information I have is that they're designing the vehicle to at least meet but likely exceed current standards. If I remember correctly they ran crash impact simulations and they are happy with the early results. I don't think we see data until they produce the batch of 12 or so they have planned for the summer.
@@stephensullivan1011 This thing does not have to meet ANY 4 wheel car safety standards, nor will it! On the road, you will be surrounded by bigger/heavier/sturdier vehicles! If you hit or are hit by anything substantial you will be on the losing end!
I'm from Jamaica it's one of the best idea I ever see as I said before you must link up with the next car company they call Lucy they have a great idea also if I have the cash I will buy one of those car
The wheels are designed to run under water, but don't try it! It comes with a Bluetooth stereo and an upgrade stereo option - probably 4 speakers and a sub. I haven't seen the details yet.
@@n.brucenelson5920 - on some of the pictures the covering look like they go very low. I love the idea of this vehicle. Just hope it translates well into the real world
PS, I do like their attention to rolling resistance . I have always wondered if the wheel bearing on a car could be designed to have way better rolling properties . Let talk about wind resistance. Just look at GM trucks they just built last few years ... The built the front grill to look like a tall wall . Great for "tough look" horrible for MPG. .. you just wonder who is the dude making the decisions?? He probably said we can sell more if they look tough than if the get better MPG...
Some States classify it (and the Polaris Slingshot) as Autocycles, and they do not necessarily require a motorcycle license. It varies from State to State, however.
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Aptera - we shall see when NHTSA and IIHS gets ahold of this to TEST your Safety.
When will you open investing? Edit:answer was ar and of video, in the next 2 months
@@loungelizard836 - APTERA is V A P O R W A R E , they will CRASH & BURN in the next 12 months.
@@markplott4820 why? Or are you just trolling?
@@loungelizard836 - Aptera is smoke , mirrors and VAPOR.
A big thing with me for being a future Aptera Paradigm owner is "Be the Change you want to see in the World"
True!
Put your money where your mouth is???
I just watched this video for the third time. It is great. It provides lots and lots of information. Thank you Aptera for keeping us abreast of the changes you are making and what you are doing. LOVE IT!
I wasn't particularly interested in this vehicle when it first debuted, but his description of their composite structures and the use of inline electric motors has me extremely excited for this to debut.
The RUclips channel Transport Evolved will be doing a special on Aptera soon... Can't wait for it
seems like a FLUFF piece to me.
@@markplott4820 it was true fluff
@@markplott4820 ya, there wasnt any real info in Nikki's video. It was a bit of a let down tbh. You didnt even get to see the car in its entirety, oddly. Better than nothing I guess.
@@alistairbalistair9596 - I suspect APTERA is a fraud and has NO Ability to Deliver ANY Vehicles to Customers, the went Bankrupt in the 2000's and sold their Technology to China in the Past.
so, I think they will be Pumping and Dumping soon.
I think we are held back by its first attempts. This is a new era where innovative electrical vehicles are appreciated, admired, and purchased. Drive on aptera!
So the aerodynamics of this vehicle look almost identical to the Diamond 20 aircraft. I believe the 2006 Aptera team mentioned that was the base of the design. I can tell you from experience that you will still get bugs and wind noise and definitely road noise transferred. Silly comments from an engineer lol. Not that it has stopped me from pre-ordering one in the slightest as I essentially do a ~300 mile +/- 200miles road trip every week for work. 30-40 miles per day would mostly charge it back up while sitting in a hotel parking lot for the week.
Thank you for the video/webinar. I configured my Aptera a week ago and may be adding things as they become available.
Safe, efficient, and beautiful!!! Looking forward to seeing these on the road, and excited to be among the 1st to drive a production solar powered car!
I've already been a victim of Elio and more recently the Electra Meccanica Solo, but I have once again bought into a startup with high hopes - Aptera. PLEASE have some production rolling by next year. Everything here LOOKS like it's all rolling... but I'm pretty gun shy anymore...
Thanks for "reboot"ing this, missed the beginning...
Ha, I see what you did there ;). Thanks for watching.
Man I hope we can buy one... So stoked for this tech!!!
Here's how you sell it.
Aptera is extremely low maintenance and almost doesn't ever need to be charged. And the insurance cost is peanuts. Essentially the car pays for itself. It might actually be financially irresponsible for you NOT to buy one. You're welcome 😁!
Thank you! I'm working slowly on my wife--convinced her already to get the Cybertruck, so I don't know why this is a harder sell so far... Maybe she just said yes to the other one first? I love the costs--a penny a mile for power, give or take, right? Blows the competition away! And I would definitely get the solar upgrade so my commute is free.... I wanted the 2e back in the day, and I'm sure we will get one eventually..... :)
@@TheJesusFreeke I had to sell my wife on the Cybertruck by using it as a business asset as a rental. So I won't get to drive it much. I really want to get an Aptera now for the tech, the efficiency, and the zero wind noise on the freeway. I can feel any car I drive getting blown by cross breezes on the freeway, and hear the wind noise, so a vehicle with no wind resistance is super appealing.
@@Nphen I agree completely. I hope Aptera partners with Tesla for FSD capabilities in the future, as I know this would make a great robotaxi as well!!
a thought about the problem of the tail sliding in a quick turn like on the course if the outside front left tire sped up to compensate for the slide of the tail end? I love this car.
I an a fan of the concept. I like the idea of minimized consumption und long lasting materials. That’s one of the things I love on my i3, but nobody seems interested when I talk about the materials. It is something that average people don’t care, maybe because it has been normal to give away a car after 10 years as the body panels start to rust and they are not even interested to think about that is not a must but intended.
Most people buy EVs for the wrong reason: To show off and for the quick acceleration. Fuel efficiency is a mystery to most drivers. However as Charging is insanely expensive in Europe, even more so in Denmark where I'm from, They'll eventually get it and EVs will be listed with their WLTP rating in bold letters across the poster.
Was wonder if the solar panels will charge the car while driving, or dose it charge only while parked? Also anything in the future for a t-top or convertible?
It will charge as long as there is sunlight or at least discharge more slowly, depending on energy expenditure.
T-top or convertible options are unlikely due to a decrease in safety or increase in weight.
If you can get it lighter than what it currently is are you likely to make a version like gyroscopter which can actually fly .
Polycarbonate can work if it is 2-pak clear coated instead of the coatings that are used on headlight covers.
I am 6'-2" tall and weigh 315 lbs. Will the Aptera's attitude change when I get behind the wheel? If so, by how much? Could the suspension be adjusted to accommodate my weight thus allowing the vehicle to sit level with me in it?
I have seen tons of info on this, and this issue has not been brought up so far, with lots of bigger people having rides in the prototypes, so I don’t think that it is an issue, as it is not with other cars…
It's a cool little EV, and way more interesting to me than a traditional sports car.
Super impressed with Aptera and its design. I wish them well and sincerely want them to succeed and sell many vehicles going forward.
If you combine manufacturing (hand-assembly) sites with repair sites your assemblers will also be your technicians.
Honda 4WS improves rapid lane change without putting a spin on the body (moose test). Also hold a straight line, resist cross winds, maneuver in the parking lot to quicken low-speed turning and reversing. Choice of Synergetic silverfish like motion, Front Only, Rear Only, Front/Rear Opposing, or Front/Rear Crab sideways.
If I didn't already have an EV I would definitely be interested in this. I think once people start seeing them on the road and at car shows and being reviewed etc then that will push it along even more.
there is a Reason why , Aptera FAILED in the 2000's.
@@markplott4820 They certainly have a lot to prove before they truly succeed. But even if it demonstrates safety, efficiency and performance there is still the giant hurdle of overcoming peoples' reaction to how it looks. Like the Tesla Cybertruck, it may take some time to get people on board with its visual appeal.
Exciting! Revolutionaries here. Mine will also use the Dyson fan technology and fly over water. Mine shall also have a “urinator” seat design by my cousin Trinitee as a bad bladder distracts from driving.
I'm wondering how the much lighter weight, high elastic deformation of the monocoque structure, and rapid elastic recovery times factor in severity of jolts/accelerations of occupants in collisions with heavier conventional vehicles (e.g., a 5,000 lb curb weight Suv)?
Being the namesake of the famous speed record holder, who died in a claggy crash, it is understandable that you ask this;). Chassis stifness in modern cars with electro tempered reinforcemnts already exceeds, the capability of the human body. An example is the Smart Car that keeps cabin integrity at 70kM/h head on concrete block crashes, however the occupants get mushed anyway. A bigger car with longer crumble zones, has the capability to deccelerate its occupans more gently, but a bigger car also brings more energy to a crash, so anybody outside the vehicle has higher mortality, so from a road safety perspective, bigger cars do not result in less severe accidents. What speaks for the Aptera is the teardrop shape. It has a highler likelyhood of skimping off angled collisions, which though also is dangerous, it breaks up the decceleration into survivable bits. Being a smaller car, also gives the driver more options to get out of a pinch. I drive a Fiat, which is 145cm wide, and I managed to fit on the raised center divider once when everybody else had crashes around me!
I refer to it as a wingless bird or plane. It's certainly a ultra futuristic shape...odd looking from the front..but it has a striking side profile.
I’m afraid that the first time I drive my Aptera I will cause a lot of accidents as other drivers wreck while gawking at the Aptera.
Will a Right Drive version be available in those markets with RHD.
Wow this is such a great interview and more importantly a revolutionary mindset about a EV. Cheers!
Aptera just makes SENSE!
Can you upgrade to bigger batteries post purchase?
The battery packs can't be added to because they are structural. You could probably replace the entire pack.
Will Aptera adopt self driving in the near future, will they be upgradable to self driving?
What is the height of the ceiling from the seat of the car in inches? I'm 6'4" tall. Will my head hit the ceiling?
Excellent cant wait for mine to be delivered
It's like that Christmas morning anticipation for me.
Why does the rear hatch need to be glass if it's covered with solar panels?
I am a Canadian, could you clarify the following please with respect to the harsh Canadian winters?
* i get a feeling that the Wheel covers might make it get stuck in the snow. What are your thoughts on this?
* do you think the chances for fishtailing is more during winter driving conditions because of the single rear wheel and cars make track on either side of the road and there will always be snow in the middle
* What is the turning radius for Aptera?
* Do you plan to include tank turn feature which could make the turning radius much more smaller since the rear wheel can be turned in the opposite direction of the turn.
How are the speakers on this car? I really enjoy listening to music loud while driving.
I have noticed that one of the lead investors has a hifi background, and I would be surprised if he doesn't have some input. I am ordering the upgraded stereo, even though I don't have details yet. What I do know is that the cabin will be unusually quiet and should form an ideal environment for music.
Thanks for posting this, I couldn't attend the webinar due to work requirements.
just an idea... how abought using interior cameras to recognise gestures for various functions, such as opening windows etc ?
What is suspension travel? How soft is the drive?
Long wishbone suspensions. Not sure about the travel distance but according to Nathan should be a very smooth ride.
one thing i would like to see from any of these 3 wheel vehicals is the option to hook up a light weight motor cycyle trailer
model Y can 3500 lbs.
There will be limited towing capacity but probably not more than 3 or 4 hundred pounds max.
Thanks for the reply.. what I had in mind was the kind of motorcycle trailers the size of a large luggage etc. that's designed for motorcycles. I was more concerned about a hitch option for the Aptera or any of that type of vehicle. I first hoped that same for the Elio, but I guess that car idea went by the way side. Year after year I was hoping to by one of the Elio. I have high hope for the Aptera.,🤓
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I really enjoyed this interview ,great questions and very very informative. Thank you 🙏
would love the rear or side cameras to automatically start recording when someone or a car gets within a few side inches or foot or two in the rear. Any accidents like side swipes or rear ending can be recorded or saved before the automatic discard and rewriting. I love when the brake light blinks the first time the brakes are pressed it makes people notice a stop.
Will there be an off road version? I want it to be able to hop easily over road obstructions and damaged infastructure. As long as it has so many other many whistles why not offer a 007 package?
There actually is now an option for off-road kit as an add-on on the website… I live in a city with lots of potholes so I’m glad they have this feature
Honestly very excited about this car. It's like a electric elio, which I am pretty sure will never be in production. Also it was a gas car and that's now outdated. It actually looks like something from the future. I think it's very cool looking. Deffinately would be a head turner. Also I am curious as to how much range per day you would get from the solar panels full package. Also when solar panels go to new materials like graphene and become more efficient at capturing the suns energy. Imagine 100 miles a day range from solar. That would be a game changer. Most would never have to charge it accept on long road trips.
I wonder what it would cost to replace the windshield if need be.
If you have to mount some small mirrors to the cameras that will be easy to remove when the rules/law change
Love the idea - have three reserved, all with solar. With using a paint wrap why not use some of the emerging flexible PV tech instead of the clumsy current design? Please add my name for volunteer hooner.
All of the flexible PV is too low in efficiency by a long shot and does not last many years at this point. Maybe in a few years 🤔
How difficult would it be to change a Tire? I was looking at the Spiritus by Daymak also it is very similar design.
How is the trunk space?
Will it float?
I think the door frame is too low, and I’m not sure how the hub motors would handle submersion… but it would be sweet 😜
How about incorporating and "Ideal ElectroMagnetic Field" environment in the cabin
to nurture the driver & passengers, instead of creating unplanned EM outcomes ?
Faraday shielding the motors, using superconductor motor windings
- to eliminate the need for big, dangerous, expensive batteries,
and properly positioning coils around the cabin space could do it !
This would replace the need for caffeinated drinks to be alert while driving.
Ultimately, I'd like to see an improvement in the window design for openness. Does the fan/vents and air conditioning keep the car cool inside under all conditions. Is there fog on the interior of the wind screen area? AF
I wondered this as well. lol
I believe in this vehicle. I want one.
Will Aptera have car to grid or car to load. As the car ages will you be able to change any faulty batter cells without the need to change the entire battery pack
Hi Steve, Chris, Nathan and the team. I was wondering whether you guys looked deeper into the rolling resistance issue with tires OEMs given the light weight of the vehicle and the three driving wheels configuration. The fact is that, despite the relative abundance of literature on the topic, I was astonished of the lack of progress in this field when it comes to availability of simulation friendly data about the rolling resistance deterministic factors from OEMs. In general what OEMs publish is a relative R value which generally is based on lab test results obtained on an ideal tire using a lab test setup whose basic design goes way back. Meaning that, correct me if I am wrong, there is no reliable commonly accepted approach which may apply to any class of tires despite the academic attempts. As if it were to say that every tire is a particular case and excuse me but tread design is far from being an engineering fact but rather a home made empirical deduction. I believe that this may well constitute an opportunity to develop a front and rear tires specifically for Aptera under the same paradigm shift as was done for the "Fuselage". We're talking about the other big chunk of Energy consumption here. Pls comment.
Not Aptera staff, but you are right. Even the "economy" rating on tire labels is divided into width classes, so you cant compare different types of tyres easily. a 6" wide tyre with an A rating has higher losses than a 4.5" tyre with a G rating! However as EVs are heavy, small lorry tyres are an option, they take 2-3 times the inflation pressure and exist in sizes suitable for cars, you can get them down to around 5" width. But generally, go for the skinniest wheel at the highest pressure rating, and be less concerned about what various reports say!
Will it require two or one spare tire and does it come with a spare or tires that are flat proof?
How long before exporting, especially Australia?
As it's front wheels stick out, what wold happen if an oncoming vehicle strikes either wheel...
I'm gonna love the insurance rates as a motorcycle. I can't wait to get one.
I’m so excited with your company!
Seperating the front wheels from the passenger cell will deter a lot of potential buyers, an all enveloping body is more assuring/familiar for the masses.
I just remembered, isn't the BMW Isetta a 3 wheeler not unlike the Aptera?
@FunWithCars Good luck
Would love to see you guys come out with a 2 wheeled, motorcycle type design, but with an aerodynamic fairing and lighter than usual weight.
Somewhat related request - I’d like to see a narrower version with tandem seating and leans into turns (so also more like a motorcycle).
@@jsponson It is more likely that you will see a product like this from Arcimoto.
I would love to see some one from this company contact solar window, so the side and back windows could add to the self charging. At least the car will always start and go nomatter how long the car sits. Solar window is see through thats what is important with the charge.
The Aptera is already available with 3 square meters of 23% efficient solar panels, including on the dashboard, roof, hood and hatch window area, rated at 600 to 700 watts of power. Adding much lower efficiency solar windows to the side windows wouldn't add much.
I don't know this for sure but I don't think the cost is worth the expense for a vehicle the size of Aptera. At the moment Solar Window coating seems to only be valuable on structures with very large surface areas ie buildings.
@@apterareboot1555 ok I know even if the specs are low , I'm not sure myself how long solar window will last if applied, of course the panel system is tried and true.
@@fotoguru222 But weight only... :)
This webinar succeeded in improving my view of Aptera. However, I still worry about how it can handle curbs and potholes. Also, it seems to me that efficiency will become less critical for EVs in the future as battery cost goes down, battery energy density goes up, and electric energy gets greener, less expensive, and more abundant.
Efficiency is still a fantastic point though, it just means the Aptera design will almost always be able to go farther with less energy, and that's always a positive prospect.
It will handle potholes fine however there are three tracks instead of two so you are 50% more likely to hit a pothole so you're going to hit 50% more of them
I am super excited! Great presentation!
Its basically a G M. SUNRACER WITH A BATTERY. GENIUS. I LIKE THE SPACE IN BACK. I CAN SEE A BACK SEAT.
Can't wait for mine!
Same here!
Can't wait for my girlfriend to get hers and then I get mine :)
Does the Aptera have supercapacitors to restore break energy?
No, they are not using suoercapacitors. They are using several levels of regenerative braking.
Over the top on intro visual! Seriously! Shop at k mart much?
A quiet car is underrated, the more I find out about it the more I like the Aptera. Accessing the boot is impractical at best but unless you need more than two seats It doesn't make sense to buy anything else if a functional long term solution to transport is your primary motivtation
How is accessing the boot impractical? It has a hatch, 7 feet of room behind the seats, and 32.5 cubic feet of storage.
Getting to anything near the back seat will be difficult, basically to get anything out you have to lean over and inside to get your hand under it. Big long things at the back will need to be lifted up and over instead of just sliding them out the back.@@garywozniak7742
I do food delivery in Atlanta. How much space does your cars have?
25 cu ft and a payload capacity of 500 lbs total, or driver plus 300 lbs.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Thanks for sharing that! Usually I carry a 24 gallon plastic tub plus a insulated hot bag with a couple of treys of hot food in them. I think that would work!
When available in Europe? I want one!
Torn between fun of 2-passenger and social practicality of 4! Nathan, let's talk about non-lithium batteries with superior specific energy and energy density. It should be possible to dramatically reduce pack weight and increase capacity within a year or so. Also, we expect to double efficiency of solar thin film (printed-on-panel). Around 20 years of battery development, 50 years for the solar by our CTO. He got the first multi-junction, multi-crystalline thin film ceramic semiconductor PV patent -- faster semiconductor than gallium arsenide! -- in 1982. More than doubled modeled efficiency in the last year. I've sent an email in a while ago, and registered on the site.
I've felt the same way about 2 vs 4 passenger for a while not. The truth is that having a 4/5 passenger car is a BIG waste of money and energy 80% of the times. I have a 2 car household. My plan is to keep one 5 passenger car and replace one with an Aptera. This way I have one car for family trips and 1 Aptera for everyday use.
@@apterareboot1555 You do realise, that once they start rolling out your production line. RUclips will be full of people uploading Aptera camping videos on how to store a tent and fit a kitchen in it?
Aptera should use glass for the front window and polycarbonate for the rear window. You would have the best of both worlds and save weight.
What is the price for the 1000 mile model?
When can we actually get one?
If you have a 1000 mile vehicle, how do you heat and cool the interior for driver comfort?
It's fiberglass with foam so it's extremely well insulated and so once it's down or up to temperature it uses next to no power. It uses a reversible heat pump so it's much more efficient, kind of like the heat pump that Tesla uses. It's like an air conditioner in reverse and for every 1 KW of energy it uses it can draw 4 KW of heat from outside to the inside. It could also use some of the waste heat from the motors.
Cooling uses air conditioner but again, since it's well insulated it won't have to run very much.
Unfortunately, it's still going to drain your battery, so if you're driving the entire way with the air conditioner on you will only get about 960 miles.
There are some supply chain issues, so the first models may come with resistance heat. The seats may have Peltier based heating and cooling.
Cold weather will definitely impact range. Increased air density will have less of an impact than it does on most EVs due to the 0.13 Cd.
@@pilotavery Your perception of cold changes when you get an EV. Now it is not before it gets a handfull degrees below freezing and me being annoyed about fogging windows, before I turn on the heat.
@@n.brucenelson5920 In My regular EV, the most temperature dependant part, is my reduction gear: thick cold oil increases my low speed consumption by around 20%. Wheel motors don't have that problem.
@@Tore_Lund Thanks for this. I learned something!
I have an order in but I am concerned when I hear biodegradable, Mercedes did the same with s class in 90s and all wiring in the engine harness degraded with heat, same with VW toureg headlight wiring. I hope you guys don;t use it around warm stuff (like batteries and motors.eg )
Several of the people at Aptera are well aware of this history, and they have already discussed the issues in using soy based insulation as an attraction to rodent damage.
Skirted past the question of 2 wheeled vehicles being more efficient than 3
As a long time motorcycle rider, I know that this is generally not true, for aerodynamic reasons.
@@n.brucenelson5920 as a mechanical and electrical engineer, an old electric and manual bike maker friend of mine says it's true. I don't see anyone comparing two wheel to three or four wheel when doing a quick online search. Pretty sad how little known research there is on this
@@justin5646 The part that is true is that bikes have less rolling resistance.
The most aerodynamically “slippery” motorcycle is the Suzuki Hayabusa which has a drag coefficient (cD) of about 0.55 to 0.60.
Compare this with the Aptera cD of 0.13
All this information is out there.
I think at least one side door access to the trunk area is necessary. The rear of the vehicle is high so anything more than light bags and items are difficult to deal with.
The back is not designed for a greater than 300 lb payload plus driver.
Those wheel cowlings look like they would create a problem with crosswind. The rear one looks like a rudder, a large flat vertical wall, but he said crosswind is not an issue? Hmmm.
Here in Michigan 2 small cars sadly blown off big Mac. Bridge . Will these blow around?
@9:17 seems it should be good 🤷♂️
Thank you for uploading this!
will it be eligible for 7,500 federal rebate for evs and 1500 for california?
Does it have heatpump?
Heat pumps are planned. (Reversing valve for the A/C compressor.) A suitable one may not be available from the aftermarket in time for the first shipments, so some of the early vehicles may be supplied with resistance heating instead. We will have to see.
Love the idea of right to repair I'll be interested to purchase one so will be reserve mine soon . Am also interested in investing
In the company would like info .
I would like to buy it in a kit form.
too bad
Won't poly windows get all scratched up compared to glass? Heavier weight yes but you don't want it to feel cheap.
Glass is planned at present unless this can be overcome.
Can we get any stats about the safety?
Also when will the crash tests be done?
Definitely something coming down the line. Right now I think they're working on general road worthiness. And once they feel ready to start driving around in the streets, they'll start making models ready for crash testing.
@@apterareboot1555 thanks. Any stats at all on safety would be great. My main concern is how it'll take hitting a semi truck because I was in an accident with one and I was very glad to be in a volvo..
But I would also just like as many safety stats as possible..
@@stephensullivan1011 Sorry to hear that happened.. Glad you were in a safe car. Best information I have is that they're designing the vehicle to at least meet but likely exceed current standards. If I remember correctly they ran crash impact simulations and they are happy with the early results. I don't think we see data until they produce the batch of 12 or so they have planned for the summer.
@@apterareboot1555 sounds in line with what I was expecting.
Thank you
@@stephensullivan1011 This thing does not have to meet ANY 4 wheel car safety standards, nor will it! On the road, you will be surrounded by bigger/heavier/sturdier vehicles! If you hit or are hit by anything substantial you will be on the losing end!
How does a front license plate mount and what does that do to range?
Not needed for the class in the US.
I'm from Jamaica it's one of the best idea I ever see as I said before you must link up with the next car company they call Lucy they have a great idea also if I have the cash I will buy one of those car
Does it float ? What are the sound system options ? Is there a tow option ? Thanks for the video, it got me really stoked !!
The wheels are designed to run under water, but don't try it! It comes with a Bluetooth stereo and an upgrade stereo option - probably 4 speakers and a sub. I haven't seen the details yet.
Can these vehicles safely go over speed bumps?
Yes. clearance is no different from a standard Honda.
@@n.brucenelson5920 - on some of the pictures the covering look like they go very low. I love the idea of this vehicle. Just hope it translates well into the real world
@@yogiyoda The wheel covers on the Noir vehicle In the videos don't reflect the final design, in several respects.
Can the Aptera be fitted with a BOSE suspension.
Since Aptera grants right to repair there will be many aftermarket possibilities.
PS, I do like their attention to rolling resistance . I have always wondered if the wheel bearing on a car could be designed to have way better rolling properties . Let talk about wind resistance. Just look at GM trucks they just built last few years ... The built the front grill to look like a tall wall . Great for "tough look" horrible for MPG. .. you just wonder who is the dude making the decisions?? He probably said we can sell more if they look tough than if the get better MPG...
2:21 Why the driver seat moving so much
Thanks for recording that; being during work hours, I would not have been able to see it 😀
20:18 If it's classified as a motorcycle in the US, I assume you would need to hold a motorcycle license to drive it, is that right?
It can fall into the category of tricycles, like the Can-Am Spyder, which only requires a driver's license for cars.
Some States classify it (and the Polaris Slingshot) as Autocycles, and they do not necessarily require a motorcycle license. It varies from State to State, however.
At present a regular car license is required in all but 6 states and all six have proposals pending to change this.
Would love to invest in opera!