This episode showed that anyone can become an addict. Without them even realizing what's happened. It tried to point out the stigma attached to addiction. Too many people think that to be an addict you have to be a bad person. It's not so. Even sweet, innocent Rose became an addict. The important thing is to get help and like Rose, to have support. It's not easy but it can be beaten.
It's true. Addiction doesn't discriminate at all. It doesn't care if you're poor, rich, gay, straight, male, female, black, white, etc. It can happen to anybody. It breaks my heart when there are those who have addictions and by the time they seek help, it's too late and they're either too far gone or die. I lost my cousin to addiction in June 2020 and the pain still feels fresh today. I miss her so much and would do anything to bring her back again.
I can understand Rose getting defensive. This is because of the unfortunate stigma that exists around people who are addicted. These people need help, not judgment. It is as much as medical condition as a broken leg and they need Compassionate Care, not someone to turn their nose up at them.
It was a stereo type of little old ladies to carry handbags like that. I don't know if they still do because I never pay attention. I'm getting up there myself. In another 15 years I will be her age.
@@thomaslucas6079 It was actually Estelle Getty's idea to have Sophia always with her purse, because she felt an older immigrant woman would always want her most precious things with her at all times. There's an interview about it somewhere on RUclips.
This hit me hard. You never think it will happen to you until it does. I was born with a deformed back, I had to have a spine fusion and I had to get on strong pain killers for several weeks. It led to an addiction. First norco, then oxycodone, then fetanyl. For 3 years I was hopelessly addicted. Thankfully I finally resigned myself to needing serious help. Went to rehab, joined the sobriety program with the County, and in exactly 1 week I will have 7 months clean. Remember, it can happen to anyone, and you can't relate or understand unless you've experienced it. Glad Golden Girls tackled this, and showed a story of how a legit injury and doctor prescribed medication led to an addiction.
That’s crazy. I hear stories like this a lot. I’ve had two kids by csection and I felt like the doctors didn’t even want to really prescribe me meds for that so it amazes me when I hear others say they get them easily.
I'm not an addict to myself but my son's father is. I want you to know that no matter what anyone says to you, you're not a bad person and it's not your fault. I got him through detox because he didn't want to go to the hospital to have a medical detox which I can't blame him. I've heard they suck. Anyway, it's perfectly okay if you're not ready to stop yet but I hope you get the help that you need. Just know that you are still a good person that is deserving of love and you are worthy of respect. Don't let anyone ever look their nose down at you. Hugs.
Me too, I was hopelessly addicted to norco, then oxycodone, then fentanyl for 3 years. Hope you have jad sobriety success. I have been clean for almost 7 months thanks to the substance abuse program that Riverside County has.
@@oliviamartini9700The problems been ongoing for many years. In the 50s to the 80s, they often over prescribed sleeping pills and tranquilizers. Miltown, Valium, Quaaludes, doctors used to prescribe them like a cure-all. Even Bea Arthur's character Maude was portrayed as somewhat of a pill popper. It's sad that how so little has changed, and we're reaping the harvest today...
I will forever love this show for showing a sympathetic view of addiction. Rose isn't some criminal or terrible person. She was a person who had a medical problem as Dorothy said. There is a cloud over this topic. Anyone can have this problem under the right circumstances. They're not automatically bad or scum of the earth for having an addiction like a lot of people seem to believe. Not true at all. Rose didn't even realize she was addicted. That can happen in some cases.
So you’re gonna take rose, the one example where an addict is not a criminal or ‚bad‘ and now you wanna convince us addicts are all like rose? Sweet innocent who never wanted to become addicted or would never hurt or takenadvantage of others due to their addiction? Please. Lots of addict become addicted because they chose to, so it’s their fault!
@@sandiego2380 You feel better? 😂 Get the hell over yourself. I didn't say every single addict was an angel. I love how you twisted what I said to fit your little self righteous rant.
"The anniversary of the death of my beloved brother Fluffy" in the most matter of fact way....I know the episode dealt with a serious issue but that line and her delivery of it leaves me laughing uncontrollably every time without fail😂😂😂
Same thing happened to a friend of mine after she had minor surgery. It was scary how easily she kept getting the perscription refilled over and over as a teenager.
Even back then, we were talking about how doctors unknowingly prescribe pills that are addictive. Obviously getting off of them requires a whole lot more than what Rose had to go through.
I love this show but the writers were so lazy with continuity. Rose had a cat with her when she met Blanche. Blanche was renting out a room and Rose needed a new home because she couldn't keep a cat at her current apartment. At first Blanche didn't think they'd be a good fit as roommates but when Rose gave her cat to a little boy she changed her mind.
I’m honestly confused by her giving her cat to the kid in the first place. Like who does that? It’s a sweet gesture but the entire concept of giving your cat to a total stranger out of the blue like that is just weird to me.
@@flowerfaerie8931, it wasn't her cat in first place, she found a stray cat 2 weeks prior on street and wanted to find him a family, but her landlord refused to allow her keep that cat at least for some time.
I just find this hilarious. She was fine for 30 years, they didn't notice anything wrong, her back is probably still bad, she's retired, and nobody to look after. What would be wrong with allowing her to continue?
I used to think it wasn't true but it is. I learned when I took these sleeping pills given to me by my MD. What made i impossible to continue to take them was due to the time of taking those pills where my metabolism didn't seem to connect and I got up early and then would fall asleep at the wrong time. In fact, I was at the job and I wanted to sleep. Eventually, it seems that the tablet which I was taking didn't connect with me and was harmful -kept me up, and then I would fall asleep at the wrong time which is how I got into a car accident which I nearly killed myself for sleeping at the wheel. I stopped taking them and decided a natural way with tea or melatonin which I preferred. The timing of taking those tablets was the cause but I felt myself wanting to take more so I immediately quit! I stopped cold turkey and spoke to the pharmacist about it and told me I did the right thing to stop. I never took them at all.
I find it funny that they say that she was allergic to cats and she never had one, the very first episode when she was introduced to blanch she had a cat and was evicted from her apartment because she wouldn’t give it up…. That always made no sense to me.
Yep they did. that old lady on Andy Griffith. Till that mean lady pharmacist Elie Walker come to town and wouldn't give her sugar pills to her that almost put her in her death bed.
What i want to know is, what doctor would prescribe pain medication for 30 years? I genuinely want to know. Don’t they examine you after a while and take you off pain medication once they conclude that you are alright?
Yes. This would literally never happen. Especially back then, she would have had to started taking them in the 50's. Long term opioid usage was shunned upon in American medicine literally up until the 1990's where Purdue pharma normalized it, for society's detriment.
Exactly. How do they know she doesn’t need them? Maybe when she hurt her back she crushed some vertebrae or slipped discs? At that time, pain management was about the only option if surgery wasn’t viable, and back surgeries fail to reduce pain in about half the cases even now. I understand that this was a very special episode about addiction, but I was actually not pleased with how quickly they jumped to that. Rose’s life was not being negatively impacted that we can see - they literally just saw the name of the pill and assumed she didn’t need it, something they wouldn’t have done if she’d been on, say, blood pressure medication for the same amount of time. There’s additional nuance between dependence and addiction. Just like a diabetic is dependent on insulin, a pain patient may be dependent on opioids to live their lives. Perhaps Rose came looking for the pills because she’s an addict in withdrawal, yes; but perhaps she came looking for them because she could not sleep due to severe back pain. We don’t know. Obviously they play this as addiction, which is why she is giving us emotional reasons… either way, the right thing to do would be to let her take her normal dosage, put her to bed, and consult a physician in the morning. Withdrawal in the elderly is more than simply uncomfortable - it can cause fatal cardiac disruptions. Before someone comes for me, I’m certainly not saying that just because it comes from a doctor doesn’t make her an addict. What I am saying is that, particularly with difficult to treat back pain, sometimes there is some nuance. In a case such as this, the first thing I would do is speak with the prescribing physician about why they are continuing to be prescribed, and get a second opinion if I was still concerned. From there, particularly in an elderly patient who had been taking them for 30+ years, I would begin a slow taper, perhaps a 5% every 2 to 4 weeks as was tolerated by the patient. We’d be assessing not just withdrawal symptoms, but also if there was a return of her back pain as well as if there were any other symptoms that the narcotic has been hiding over the years. It’a not as simple as “let me sit with you tonight and *boom* you’re cured” after 30 years and with a patient in her 70’s. Even if we are talking about a physical dependency and not the additional psychological factors of addiction, medical management of the withdrawal period is critical in the elderly patient.
They didn’t say she was cured after one night though, she actually relapsed and took another pill, but she felt like with their support she could face her addiction and eventually get better, and she had the strength to call the clinic or whatever that Dorothy wanted her to
Addicts usually don't admit they have a problem. Which is what this episode shows with rose as u can tell she's not admitting she has a problem at least not right away .
I totally forgot about that lol but to be honest the continuity in this show has always been flaky. It’s still one of my favorite shows of all time though!
I’d say “stigma” is more about what you abuse. I can understand someone being ashamed for alcohol and illegal drugs because being “drunk” and “high” are considered social ills, but addiction to pain meds is a real issue and something we work hard to avoid today by closely monitoring use and rotating meds so the body is less likely to develop dependency (as soon as you acclimate to one, you get switched to another…rinse and repeat so that you never stay on just one). I had an addiction to nasal spray (use more than the proscribed duration and it causes a reaction that makes you need it even more to get results). Also had an issue with migraine meds (caffeine addiction), which forces me to occasionally cut out caffeine entirely and suffer until I detox.
At the time of this episode, I believe we didn’t watch for signs of addiction with meds, and doctors were careless about following patients to get them off the meds once they should no longer be needed. Many “addicts” were created by medical malpractice.
I just had a 79yo patient who's been taking pain pills for 30 years. Her behavior when going through withdraws was very sad. She was somewhat demented and has zero understanding of what was happening to her... Fuck my job is sad
Rose: Tonight is the anniversary of the death of my beloved cat fluffy Dorothy: Rose you never had a cat you are allergic Rose: Okay tonight is the anniversary of the death of my beloved brother fluffy LOL will miss betty white
This is a real 4th of July picnic episode lol 😂… I forgot about this one . Deals with problems , that are relevant . Apparently Just like suicide drugs can affect anyone .
this episode was so sad to me. rose was such a sweet and caring women and even though i realize it’s all acting, it’s reality for a lot of sweet people. to see betty’s character go through that was really tough.
It's easy to get hooked on these prescription drugs. I did with Xanax and it was horrible withdrawals. Plus unlike Rose I didn't have friends to help me through it.
She was allergic to cats what a mistake by the writers, never noticed before. She had a cat first time she met blanche why she was kicked out of her previous place.
After this episode aired the writers decided to discard the follow up script where Rose relapses and enrolls in a methadone program. They decided it was too redundant
@@kellymcfalls1458People won't necessarily act "crazy". She was dependent on pills she no longer needed, she wasn't taking so many that anyone would notice a change in her demeanor. That's why the opioid crises exists & why so many people's loved one's never know until it's too late.
I'm wondering how did the pharmacist keep giving her those pills after 30 years (I'm guessing cus its 30 years ago and our laws about prescribing pain killers have changed)
@@desertrose1226 Actually about 5 or 6 years ago I was visiting a friend and he mentioned that a neighbor's home was burglarized. Then he mentioned that pain medications were taken and electronics. He then mentioned that the neighbor was taking the pain medications for over ten years.Probably chronic pain or possibly just convinced a pain clinic somewhere to give him the pain killers.
Can I ask why she would be dependent on the pills? Like do they make her feel better or do they change the way her brain works? I’m seriously asking as someone who has never gone through addiction.
Think of when you have a hard time sleeping so you take a Tylenol PM each night with sleepy time tea. You do this say for a week but quickly say 2 to 3 days later you can't sleep again. So you take the Tylenol again. And suddenly before you know it you need that Tylenol PM each night at a certain time to help you get to sleep. That's what probably happened to rose but with a much more addictive pain killer.
Okay hopefully I'm explaining this right if I'm not then somebody needs to correct me because I could totally be wrong here. I don't have addiction problems either, but the way I understand it if you get addicted to something like pain medication it does change the chemicals in your brain then your body gets medically addicted. to that I think, and then when you stop taking it your body goes through withdrawal symptoms because you don't have those chemicals anymore. That's how I understand it but again I'm no doctor so I could totally be wrong on that. If I am somebody needs to correct me because I don't want to say something wrong here.
@@cmpvariety1764 you got it right. An ex addict here- the withdrawals can literally be fatal. It’s like worst flu you could imagine on top having food poisoning. Your brain has receptors in it that opioids work on, imagine like a golf ball and the little dimples as the receptors, when you put the drug in your system those holes get filled up and make you feel good. But when you don’t have the drug, your receptors go haywire as they aren’t being filled anymore and you go into withdrawal. It’s painful and someone like Rose who had been on those pills for 30 years could have a heart attack or something. Most of the time opiate withdrawal isn’t fatal but alcohol withdrawal is very very fatal and works on the same principles.
@@joshhedgepeth Maybe the only show that treated serious topics like this with dignity and respect and didn't treat Rose like see with some hot head idiot that only knew how to shovel pills down her throat this is why Golden girls I don't care if I go to Walmart and it's $90 I will buy it because of the show that actually shows life
This episode showed that anyone can become an addict. Without them even realizing what's happened. It tried to point out the stigma attached to addiction. Too many people think that to be an addict you have to be a bad person. It's not so. Even sweet, innocent Rose became an addict. The important thing is to get help and like Rose, to have support. It's not easy but it can be beaten.
It's true. Addiction doesn't discriminate at all. It doesn't care if you're poor, rich, gay, straight, male, female, black, white, etc. It can happen to anybody. It breaks my heart when there are those who have addictions and by the time they seek help, it's too late and they're either too far gone or die. I lost my cousin to addiction in June 2020 and the pain still feels fresh today. I miss her so much and would do anything to bring her back again.
@@CourtneyLachiver hugs
And it shows adults can be otherwise very kind and functional in society
@@CourtneyLachiver I'm so sorry.
Rip to all four
We all need friends like Dorothy and Blanche.
Amen
And Sophia
I’d love a friend like Dorothy 🤍 she’s the coolest!
Sophia too
Absolutely! If we all had friends like Blanche and Dorothy, the world would be such a better place.
Rose seems resilient and harmless, but she’s human just like everyone else.
This probably the only episode where I was actually afraid of rose
How about that time she was having an irrational fear of someone breaking in into their house, so she got fidgety so she purchased a gun.
Or what about the time she broke a mug when she possessed the thought of miles being with another woman
Or when she got overly competitive playing sports.
😂😂😂 Best thread ever - the dark side of Rose by the most devoted fans!
@@jolene1728 "I don't need mace--I got a gun!"
I can understand Rose getting defensive. This is because of the unfortunate stigma that exists around people who are addicted. These people need help, not judgment. It is as much as medical condition as a broken leg and they need Compassionate Care, not someone to turn their nose up at them.
@Logia SD no she wasn't she was in denial...
Compassionate care doesn’t help you need to be more realistic with these people even if it hurts! Dorothy and Blanche acted perfectly rational
Sophia even carries her purse just to go to the kitchen. You know she’s strapped.
It was a stereo type of little old ladies to carry handbags like that. I don't know if they still do because I never pay attention. I'm getting up there myself. In another 15 years I will be her age.
@@thomaslucas6079 It was actually Estelle Getty's idea to have Sophia always with her purse, because she felt an older immigrant woman would always want her most precious things with her at all times.
There's an interview about it somewhere on RUclips.
I love how even in the middle of the night Sophia still carries her purse 😂👜
Same
Her signature
😂😂😂😂😂I was just thinking the same thing
She's old school thinking that she'll be robbed so she's ready to bounce.
Reminds me of Queen Elizabeth II with her black purse. Love it.
This hit me hard. You never think it will happen to you until it does. I was born with a deformed back, I had to have a spine fusion and I had to get on strong pain killers for several weeks. It led to an addiction. First norco, then oxycodone, then fetanyl. For 3 years I was hopelessly addicted. Thankfully I finally resigned myself to needing serious help. Went to rehab, joined the sobriety program with the County, and in exactly 1 week I will have 7 months clean. Remember, it can happen to anyone, and you can't relate or understand unless you've experienced it. Glad Golden Girls tackled this, and showed a story of how a legit injury and doctor prescribed medication led to an addiction.
Golden girls was just groundbreaking. And congrats on 7 months sobriety!
Yes, congrats and good for you! That’s awesome!
Congratulations on your sobriety! Wishing you many more years of health and happiness. 🙏🙏❤❤
CONGRATULATIONS 🎊 This is so absolutely wonder I hope for a life long sobriety you got this!!!
That’s crazy. I hear stories like this a lot. I’ve had two kids by csection and I felt like the doctors didn’t even want to really prescribe me meds for that so it amazes me when I hear others say they get them easily.
Although they insult each other, it’s nice to see them all look-out for one another. That’s true friendship.
God I love Bea in this. She plays the strong assertive character so well.
That weird feeling you get when you realize they are all dead
seriously
Betty White was the last one who passed.
Dorothy: "Was Liza Minelli embarrassed?"
Sophia: " She SHOULD have been." 🤣🤣🤣
Poor Rose, she really went through the greatest hardships of the group
Facts.
I actually think Blanche did. And she was not tough like Rose.
the only episode where i legit cried as a substance user i actually fekt so much sadness
I'm not an addict to myself but my son's father is. I want you to know that no matter what anyone says to you, you're not a bad person and it's not your fault. I got him through detox because he didn't want to go to the hospital to have a medical detox which I can't blame him. I've heard they suck. Anyway, it's perfectly okay if you're not ready to stop yet but I hope you get the help that you need. Just know that you are still a good person that is deserving of love and you are worthy of respect. Don't let anyone ever look their nose down at you. Hugs.
Me too, I was hopelessly addicted to norco, then oxycodone, then fentanyl for 3 years. Hope you have jad sobriety success. I have been clean for almost 7 months thanks to the substance abuse program that Riverside County has.
This episode showed how the opimide crisis started before we even started looking into it.
That came with the introduction of Oxycontin years later, which they marketed as "non-addictive".
Once again, the GGs were ahead of their time!
@@oliviamartini9700The problems been ongoing for many years. In the 50s to the 80s, they often over prescribed sleeping pills and tranquilizers. Miltown, Valium, Quaaludes, doctors used to prescribe them like a cure-all. Even Bea Arthur's character Maude was portrayed as somewhat of a pill popper. It's sad that how so little has changed, and we're reaping the harvest today...
Such an important episode. Golden Girls was so progressive and ahead of their times.
I will forever love this show for showing a sympathetic view of addiction. Rose isn't some criminal or terrible person. She was a person who had a medical problem as Dorothy said. There is a cloud over this topic. Anyone can have this problem under the right circumstances. They're not automatically bad or scum of the earth for having an addiction like a lot of people seem to believe. Not true at all. Rose didn't even realize she was addicted. That can happen in some cases.
So you’re gonna take rose, the one example where an addict is not a criminal or ‚bad‘ and now you wanna convince us addicts are all like rose? Sweet innocent who never wanted to become addicted or would never hurt or takenadvantage of others due to their addiction? Please. Lots of addict become addicted because they chose to, so it’s their fault!
@@sandiego2380 You feel better? 😂 Get the hell over yourself. I didn't say every single addict was an angel. I love how you twisted what I said to fit your little self righteous rant.
"Please, what is she gonna do in the NBA?" Lol so true, Sophia!
"She should have been. Did you see Arthur 2?"
Ok, I was like hell naw 😂
"The anniversary of the death of my beloved brother Fluffy" in the most matter of fact way....I know the episode dealt with a serious issue but that line and her delivery of it leaves me laughing uncontrollably every time without fail😂😂😂
Same thing happened to a friend of mine after she had minor surgery. It was scary how easily she kept getting the perscription refilled over and over as a teenager.
Rose was very lucky to have good friends like Blanche and Dorothy
What about Sophia?
Sophia is always around just not when rose acts dumb for no purpose.
Proof that friends are family.
Yes. Amen.
Indeed takes me long to see it.
I like that Sophia was the comic relief in this scene.
I'm here after Betty Whites passing
Thank you for being a friend💙💔😭
I am so glad the show covered so many important topics such as this one; a truly classic and timeless show!
I also liked the episode “72 hours,” where Rose potentially had AIDS from a transfusion. Many great points and showed the stigma of the day.
Ah, Betty. How could you leave us? Godspeed, and God bless all of us struggling. 💞
When it comes to comedians she was the last of her kind. she was in light that shined in the darkness.
I love the fact that Rose is feisty and not so straight laced here. Betty White really played the addict very well.
As this was over 30 years ago the opioid addiction in America has got greatly worse unfortunately.
Even back then, we were talking about how doctors unknowingly prescribe pills that are addictive. Obviously getting off of them requires a whole lot more than what Rose had to go through.
1:52 That don’t make no sense. Rose had a cat when she met Blanche.
You're right !
Great as a show as it is, there was a lapse of continuity on occasion.
The show did have some continuity errors
Mr. Peepers!
Sitcoms and continuity....Never the twain shall meet.
Then Dorothy had a gambling problem...
Rose got a gun and almost killed Blanche
Then she started smoking again
@@cuzitsnecessary even worse she broke the vase
Blanche’s daughter was fat
If Rose is allergic to cats, how was she holding Mr Peepers in the first episode?
Continuity error
I thought the same thing
Bad edit
Sophia was like “PEACE!”
RIP Betty White
I love this show but the writers were so lazy with continuity. Rose had a cat with her when she met Blanche. Blanche was renting out a room and Rose needed a new home because she couldn't keep a cat at her current apartment. At first Blanche didn't think they'd be a good fit as roommates but when Rose gave her cat to a little boy she changed her mind.
Mr. Peepers!!
I think part of the problem is they kept changing writers for the series.
I’m honestly confused by her giving her cat to the kid in the first place. Like who does that? It’s a sweet gesture but the entire concept of giving your cat to a total stranger out of the blue like that is just weird to me.
@@flowerfaerie8931, it wasn't her cat in first place, she found a stray cat 2 weeks prior on street and wanted to find him a family, but her landlord refused to allow her keep that cat at least for some time.
I need friends like Blanche and Dorothy.
And Sophia. The best.
I miss these times. It just seemed more authentic when shows back then touched on topics that were taboo, but caught the attention of viewers.
I just find this hilarious. She was fine for 30 years, they didn't notice anything wrong, her back is probably still bad, she's retired, and nobody to look after. What would be wrong with allowing her to continue?
I used to think it wasn't true but it is. I learned when I took these sleeping pills given to me by my MD. What made i impossible to continue to take them was due to the time of taking those pills where my metabolism didn't seem to connect and I got up early and then would fall asleep at the wrong time. In fact, I was at the job and I wanted to sleep. Eventually, it seems that the tablet which I was taking didn't connect with me and was harmful -kept me up, and then I would fall asleep at the wrong time which is how I got into a car accident which I nearly killed myself for sleeping at the wheel. I stopped taking them and decided a natural way with tea or melatonin which I preferred. The timing of taking those tablets was the cause but I felt myself wanting to take more so I immediately quit! I stopped cold turkey and spoke to the pharmacist about it and told me I did the right thing to stop. I never took them at all.
I find it funny that they say that she was allergic to cats and she never had one, the very first episode when she was introduced to blanch she had a cat and was evicted from her apartment because she wouldn’t give it up…. That always made no sense to me.
So sad to be addicted to pain pills for that long
Rose gone off them percs 😂
Rose poppin them beans, flyin like a helicopter
Loved episodes where they tackled the social issues, a bit like the Norman Lear sitcoms.
They should’ve just gave her sugar pills and made her think they were pain pills
Yep they did. that old lady on Andy Griffith. Till that mean lady pharmacist Elie Walker come to town and wouldn't give her sugar pills to her that almost put her in her death bed.
Miss all of them...
3:21 This is the best & better than friend in need is friend in deed.
Never keep your good stuff in a cabinet where everyone can get to them.
Right!! that's Rose Nyland for you. Lol
What i want to know is, what doctor would prescribe pain medication for 30 years? I genuinely want to know. Don’t they examine you after a while and take you off pain medication once they conclude that you are alright?
Yes. This would literally never happen. Especially back then, she would have had to started taking them in the 50's. Long term opioid usage was shunned upon in American medicine literally up until the 1990's where Purdue pharma normalized it, for society's detriment.
"But honey, there's a place for people with this kind of problem."
"Please, what is she gonna do in the NBA?"
😆😂😆💀
I love Sophia, hahaha.
If they were prescription medication who kept writing the prescription certs for 30 years?
Exactly. How do they know she doesn’t need them? Maybe when she hurt her back she crushed some vertebrae or slipped discs? At that time, pain management was about the only option if surgery wasn’t viable, and back surgeries fail to reduce pain in about half the cases even now. I understand that this was a very special episode about addiction, but I was actually not pleased with how quickly they jumped to that. Rose’s life was not being negatively impacted that we can see - they literally just saw the name of the pill and assumed she didn’t need it, something they wouldn’t have done if she’d been on, say, blood pressure medication for the same amount of time.
There’s additional nuance between dependence and addiction. Just like a diabetic is dependent on insulin, a pain patient may be dependent on opioids to live their lives. Perhaps Rose came looking for the pills because she’s an addict in withdrawal, yes; but perhaps she came looking for them because she could not sleep due to severe back pain. We don’t know. Obviously they play this as addiction, which is why she is giving us emotional reasons… either way, the right thing to do would be to let her take her normal dosage, put her to bed, and consult a physician in the morning. Withdrawal in the elderly is more than simply uncomfortable - it can cause fatal cardiac disruptions.
Before someone comes for me, I’m certainly not saying that just because it comes from a doctor doesn’t make her an addict. What I am saying is that, particularly with difficult to treat back pain, sometimes there is some nuance. In a case such as this, the first thing I would do is speak with the prescribing physician about why they are continuing to be prescribed, and get a second opinion if I was still concerned. From there, particularly in an elderly patient who had been taking them for 30+ years, I would begin a slow taper, perhaps a 5% every 2 to 4 weeks as was tolerated by the patient. We’d be assessing not just withdrawal symptoms, but also if there was a return of her back pain as well as if there were any other symptoms that the narcotic has been hiding over the years. It’a not as simple as “let me sit with you tonight and *boom* you’re cured” after 30 years and with a patient in her 70’s. Even if we are talking about a physical dependency and not the additional psychological factors of addiction, medical management of the withdrawal period is critical in the elderly patient.
They didn’t say she was cured after one night though, she actually relapsed and took another pill, but she felt like with their support she could face her addiction and eventually get better, and she had the strength to call the clinic or whatever that Dorothy wanted her to
Ask people that been on drugs for 30 years. Its not impossible
It's interesting how Sophia always has the "not me" attitude in these group situations.
Blanch Dorothy are true caring friends.
Perfect crew to help her wean after 30 years
my great grandmother had this problem with pills..she died
When I went through chemo for breast cancer I became addicted to oxies because of bone pain those things are evil.
Euphoria season 30 is looking pretty wild
I wish they show The Golden Girls on antenna, Cw, and Circle network.
Addicts usually don't admit they have a problem. Which is what this episode shows with rose as u can tell she's not admitting she has a problem at least not right away .
Very well done to show the stigma of being an addict and having a good support system to have you get through it.
Sophia is too funny!
Umm...Rose wasn't allergic to cats. In an episode where Blanche remembers the first time she met her, she met Rose at the supermarket holding a cat
I totally forgot about that lol but to be honest the continuity in this show has always been flaky.
It’s still one of my favorite shows of all time though!
wasn't it a dog?
@@ihinchcliffe7820 no it was a cat
@@elizabitty213 You're right. I searched for the episode and yeah it was a cat but it looks a bit like a dog, hahaha.
@@ihinchcliffe7820 hahahaha. I have been on a serious binge rewatching of this show over the past few weeks so I had just watched that episode lol.
They put the situation in comedy.
Anxiety and depression can lead to addiction.
I’d say “stigma” is more about what you abuse. I can understand someone being ashamed for alcohol and illegal drugs because being “drunk” and “high” are considered social ills, but addiction to pain meds is a real issue and something we work hard to avoid today by closely monitoring use and rotating meds so the body is less likely to develop dependency (as soon as you acclimate to one, you get switched to another…rinse and repeat so that you never stay on just one). I had an addiction to nasal spray (use more than the proscribed duration and it causes a reaction that makes you need it even more to get results). Also had an issue with migraine meds (caffeine addiction), which forces me to occasionally cut out caffeine entirely and suffer until I detox.
At the time of this episode, I believe we didn’t watch for signs of addiction with meds, and doctors were careless about following patients to get them off the meds once they should no longer be needed. Many “addicts” were created by medical malpractice.
I just had a 79yo patient who's been taking pain pills for 30 years. Her behavior when going through withdraws was very sad. She was somewhat demented and has zero understanding of what was happening to her...
Fuck my job is sad
Your job is to take care of that patient. Take pride in it. Help as much as you can. It gives you purpose.
Wow, Rose was addicted to pain killers while Dorothy had to deal with gambling AND smoking addictions.
This is like Valley of the Dolls 20 something years later
It's really rather sweet
Had a crush on Betty white..lol
She was 64 and I was 14..😅
Wow I love this!
im glad im only addicted to sugar and caffeine, they're harmful too tho
The only thing I didn’t understand is that if Rose’s doctor didn’t want her to take them, why did he keep ordering refills?
This was totally out of character for Rose.
Sophia with the purse ... 🤣
All of them are gone 😔
Rose: Tonight is the anniversary of the death of my beloved cat fluffy
Dorothy: Rose you never had a cat you are allergic
Rose: Okay tonight is the anniversary of the death of my beloved brother fluffy
LOL will miss betty white
This is a real 4th of July picnic episode lol 😂… I forgot about this one . Deals with problems , that are relevant . Apparently Just like suicide drugs can affect anyone .
I'm so excited
Poor rose ...
thank god rose didnt end up like sarah goldfarb
Rose OFF on them beans, like a helicopter.
this episode was so sad to me. rose was such a sweet and caring women and even though i realize it’s all acting, it’s reality for a lot of sweet people. to see betty’s character go through that was really tough.
Just like a lot of people, you never know what’s really going on with people behind closed doors. Unfortunately
I wonder if this was the cause of her cardiac arrest in the last season
It's easy to get hooked on these prescription drugs. I did with Xanax and it was horrible withdrawals. Plus unlike Rose I didn't have friends to help me through it.
Full makeup in the middle of the night
30years. How did she continue to get renewals? Her Dr must be aware.
This show is a bit off.
She was allergic to cats what a mistake by the writers, never noticed before. She had a cat first time she met blanche why she was kicked out of her previous place.
After all the time of knowing Rose they didn’t know she was hooked?
Its not like they was around her 24/7. They had their own life.
They probably thought it was her medication she was taking.
@@kimson305 yes they had their own lives but they lived together and never noticed her acting crazy or on drugs?
After this episode aired the writers decided to discard the follow up script where Rose relapses and enrolls in a methadone program. They decided it was too redundant
@@kellymcfalls1458People won't necessarily act "crazy". She was dependent on pills she no longer needed, she wasn't taking so many that anyone would notice a change in her demeanor. That's why the opioid crises exists & why so many people's loved one's never know until it's too late.
Now I want to know the rest of the story 😁
I saw that before on my TV 📺
I'm wondering how did the pharmacist keep giving her those pills after 30 years (I'm guessing cus its 30 years ago and our laws about prescribing pain killers have changed)
Unrealistic. No one can get refills for 30 years.
Back in the 80s you probably could.
@@tomv5988 yeah everyone was easy going then. Fewer rules.
@@desertrose1226 Actually about 5 or 6 years ago I was visiting a friend and he mentioned that a neighbor's home was burglarized. Then he mentioned that pain medications were taken and electronics. He then mentioned that the neighbor was taking the pain medications for over ten years.Probably chronic pain or possibly just convinced a pain clinic somewhere to give him the pain killers.
RIP
What a sweet way to say she was a low key junkie haha. 30 years? C'mon
0:29 an accent ? Ahdict
Can I ask why she would be dependent on the pills? Like do they make her feel better or do they change the way her brain works? I’m seriously asking as someone who has never gone through addiction.
Think of when you have a hard time sleeping so you take a Tylenol PM each night with sleepy time tea.
You do this say for a week but quickly say 2 to 3 days later you can't sleep again. So you take the Tylenol again.
And suddenly before you know it you need that Tylenol PM each night at a certain time to help you get to sleep.
That's what probably happened to rose but with a much more addictive pain killer.
Okay hopefully I'm explaining this right if I'm not then somebody needs to correct me because I could totally be wrong here. I don't have addiction problems either, but the way I understand it if you get addicted to something like pain medication it does change the chemicals in your brain then your body gets medically addicted. to that I think, and then when you stop taking it your body goes through withdrawal symptoms because you don't have those chemicals anymore. That's how I understand it but again I'm no doctor so I could totally be wrong on that. If I am somebody needs to correct me because I don't want to say something wrong here.
@@cmpvariety1764 you got it right. An ex addict here- the withdrawals can literally be fatal. It’s like worst flu you could imagine on top having food poisoning. Your brain has receptors in it that opioids work on, imagine like a golf ball and the little dimples as the receptors, when you put the drug in your system those holes get filled up and make you feel good. But when you don’t have the drug, your receptors go haywire as they aren’t being filled anymore and you go into withdrawal. It’s painful and someone like Rose who had been on those pills for 30 years could have a heart attack or something. Most of the time opiate withdrawal isn’t fatal but alcohol withdrawal is very very fatal and works on the same principles.
What series & episode is this from ?
Golden girls can’t remember the season and episode though
Season 4 episode 20
@@blackdemins42910 abroad they refer to seasons as “series”
@@joshhedgepeth Maybe the only show that treated serious topics like this with dignity and respect and didn't treat Rose like see with some hot head idiot that only knew how to shovel pills down her throat this is why Golden girls I don't care if I go to Walmart and it's $90 I will buy it because of the show that actually shows life
wow rose a feen
Euphoria