I don’t get the connection you’re trying to make 😅 he’s just saying Puff is just better than Kirby in Melee, that’s why Kirby wants to be Jigglypuff in Melee
i just woke up with this idea for kirby, change his copy abilites to the way they work in his game: if he suck up mario or bowser , make him fire kirby, olimar make him UFO kirby . if he sucks up a link or and FE character make him sword kirby. etc
@@pokeblueblur5755 It was multi hit in brawl and smash 4. They clearly changed it because his flaming tackle dash attack, even as it was more loyal to the universe he belonged to, was worse than the multi hit kick, at least in melee before they changed it back in ultimate
Yeah I completely agree, this video is extremely hyperbolic, and it kinda just reiterated a lot of the most common talking points. No character is truly that unusable in melee, and Captain Pretzel has been making it work with Kirby.
No, Kirby’s combo game in melee is the worst by far. No solid finishers, too much low air speed to connect with any moves. There’s only like 3 combos that all start with up tilt His kit is just to weird and unfitting to combo with. Sure, PM and P+ really did improve a lot of his kill options and mid combos, but still one of the least combo characters to ever exist in fgc.
Did you accidentally go to 64 Kirby because for your information the only Kirby throws that work are bad combo tools his up tilt leads into like one follow up also even if he had a good combo game he wouldn’t be good because of his bad approach tools hella slow speed very light weight and weak kill options
@@amarobro2298yes they are? Hus wavedash is pretty good, has a great set of tilts, is just that everything else is really awful except for one or two things
There’s nothing Kirby has the puff doesn’t except for the knee that is Kirby up air but in the context of her kit puff air is also rly good bc it combos into rest
I never see protect melee talked about. Its not popular. Is it good? Is it not as popular because its not an official game and Nintendo would shut it down??
Community is small and people would still play other smash games like melee and ultimate Yes, but project m is still being played to this day. They didn't shut down the game. They shut down development of it. People get those concepts backwards because they think development=game even though it clearly isn't. MK11 is still being played to this day and it's no longer being updated, but that doesn't mean it was shut down.
@@graftongazaway5633 he's just saying Jigglypuff in Melee is better in every way, as in, if there was one Melee character Kirby wanted to be, that would be Jigglypuff
“He wants to be jigglypuff so bad”
But wasn’t smash 64 jigglypuff made because she could basically use Kirby’s model?
Yeah?
I don’t get the connection you’re trying to make 😅 he’s just saying Puff is just better than Kirby in Melee, that’s why Kirby wants to be Jigglypuff in Melee
Kirby was like this in melee was because people liked to complain about Kirby in 64
i just woke up with this idea for kirby, change his copy abilites to the way they work in his game: if he suck up mario or bowser , make him fire kirby, olimar make him UFO kirby . if he sucks up a link or and FE character make him sword kirby. etc
You are a genius, you MUST make a mod for that
That will suck
my roommate has never gone to a tournament and legit destroys me with kirby in P+. it hurts
Noo why my smash main is worst in melee 😭 F for melee kirby pls👍
same boat as you, gonna play Puff then :')
8:37 ... Kirby's Dash Attack Was supposed to be a multi-hit?... DUDE, I'VE LIVED YEARS NOT KNOWING THAT! HOW DID THEY SCREW IT UP SO BADLY?!
It's melee
It never multi hits
@@pokeblueblur5755 It was multi hit in brawl and smash 4. They clearly changed it because his flaming tackle dash attack, even as it was more loyal to the universe he belonged to, was worse than the multi hit kick, at least in melee before they changed it back in ultimate
Kirby's combo game ain't that bad and I really think him being garbage is overplayed but, so be it.
Yeah I completely agree, this video is extremely hyperbolic, and it kinda just reiterated a lot of the most common talking points. No character is truly that unusable in melee, and Captain Pretzel has been making it work with Kirby.
It has potential but I wouldn't call his combos the worst in the game.
No, Kirby’s combo game in melee is the worst by far. No solid finishers, too much low air speed to connect with any moves. There’s only like 3 combos that all start with up tilt His kit is just to weird and unfitting to combo with. Sure, PM and P+ really did improve a lot of his kill options and mid combos, but still one of the least combo characters to ever exist in fgc.
Did you accidentally go to 64 Kirby because for your information the only Kirby throws that work are bad combo tools his up tilt leads into like one follow up also even if he had a good combo game he wouldn’t be good because of his bad approach tools hella slow speed very light weight and weak kill options
@@peter42466 how dare you say that about 64 kirby
Bro but blue kirby is unbeatable
Kirby's tilts and wavedash are actually amazing in melee but otherwise, great vid!
No theyre not
@@amarobro2298just see for yourself
@@amarobro2298yes they are? Hus wavedash is pretty good, has a great set of tilts, is just that everything else is really awful except for one or two things
@@someoneelse1348 the only decent things of Kirby are his tilts, not even good just amazing, his wavedash is literally ass
Fun fact
Pichu speed is 1.74 in melee and the 5th fastest character
even on Ulitmate he's still bad at least he's better than melee
Brawl was the last game where Kirby was actually decent
Mid tier like Brawl. Kirby is decent enough in Ultimate.
Kirby in Smash 64-Awesome=Kirby in Melee-Bad
As a child i used to play Kirby sucking somone up flying down released then into dead and fly up again😂😂
If you don't tech down throw kirby can Redgrab you forever
idk man my kirby kinda shnasty
Only on Yoshi's Story 😅
@@ZachHonest Kirby do be getting the Randall bias
There’s nothing Kirby has the puff doesn’t except for the knee that is Kirby up air but in the context of her kit puff air is also rly good bc it combos into rest
The #1 rule in competitive Melee:
If they don’t say ‘HIYAAAA’ they suck
Give to ness a home run bat to his range
Just give him 64's Up-Tilt and Down Air and watch him climb up 3 tiers
I never see protect melee talked about. Its not popular. Is it good?
Is it not as popular because its not an official game and Nintendo would shut it down??
Community is small and people would still play other smash games like melee and ultimate
Yes, but project m is still being played to this day. They didn't shut down the game. They shut down development of it. People get those concepts backwards because they think development=game even though it clearly isn't. MK11 is still being played to this day and it's no longer being updated, but that doesn't mean it was shut down.
Give a hammer to mario to his range
Give a hammer to kirby to his range
Still garbage in PM 😔
Bowser is better than Kirby.
Sakurai just a bort kirby
It would be nice if you made better melee clips, if you use the 20XX mod pack it's not too hard to create cleaner clips
Fun fact
Kirby speed in smash melee is 1.40
Bowser is 1.14
Jigglypuff and zelda speed is 1.12 the slowest characters in the game
Kirby was made in 1992
Pokémon was made in 1995
Kirby is not trying to be like jigglypuff
tell me you didn't get the point without telling me you didn't get the point
@@Pal42_ yeah sorry I don’t get it
@@graftongazaway5633 he's just saying Jigglypuff in Melee is better in every way, as in, if there was one Melee character Kirby wanted to be, that would be Jigglypuff
Damn I was actually good at using Kirby in melee lol
People need to search for "Triple R" for Kirby highlights