Who was the “King of Hot Rods” Boyd Coddington? RIP

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  • @joetallon4968
    @joetallon4968 2 года назад +105

    He was the poster person for how not to treat your employees!

    • @karrpilot7092
      @karrpilot7092 2 года назад +7

      I worked for a few bosses like him. Some not for long. When a boss treats you like that and won't listen to you, it's time to go.

    • @gingernutpreacher
      @gingernutpreacher 2 года назад +3

      Was going to say that you can only burn the candle at both ends so many times people that work for foose speak the opposite

    • @autodidact537
      @autodidact537 2 года назад +2

      Enzo Ferrari was the same.

    • @michaeladamo6279
      @michaeladamo6279 2 года назад

      @@autodidact537 really? I would have thought he would have been good to his people!

    • @gnm109
      @gnm109 2 года назад +1

      @@michaeladamo6279 In case you are not kidding, Boyd treated his employees as enemies. He would alway berate them and Dwayne was the same.

  • @graeme8800
    @graeme8800 2 года назад +71

    If Boyd and Dwayne watched their own show they would see what a couple of a......s they really were. Working there would suck the life out of you.

  • @johngurney1069
    @johngurney1069 2 года назад +25

    he may have designed the cars but the most talented people were the ones making the design come true, without them it would never have been built.

  • @Sam808Sch
    @Sam808Sch 2 года назад +31

    Yikes. The show was painful to watch. The tension with his workers was very noticeable.

  • @robh3267
    @robh3267 2 года назад +34

    Boyd was his own worst enemy, he never put himself in other people's shoes and in the end no one could stand to work for him, his biggest and worst problems were not complicated or hard to figure out, he just chose not to see them, when someone holds a grudge for life against someone else who has enough self respect to no longer take that person's abuse that grudge is a way of hiding from the truth about what kind of a person they really are, Boyd hated the fact that Chip didn't need to put up with his abuse and became more successful than Boyd was.

  • @tommychicago1381
    @tommychicago1381 2 года назад +3

    I met Boyd @ Barrett-Jackson. He was there with his entire crew in the skybox adjacent to the one I was in. I was chattng with him a bit, then he signed my auction book on the full page of his car for salethat he had in the auction. Then he took a picture with me. A few months later, he passed. I still have the autograph & picture. What a cool guy, may he rest in peace.

    • @Johnmartins648
      @Johnmartins648 Год назад

      How much did his car go for? Was he happy with the result?

  • @thomasschiller5197
    @thomasschiller5197 2 года назад +53

    Towards the end , his help jumped ship ,not wanting to meet the crazy deadlines and lack of practical designs .who wants to work for a guy who didn't get his hands dirty and soak up all the glory at unveiling.even at the end the craftsmen who actually built them left without telling him ,just pulling their tools after dealing with the jerk of a shop supervisor

    • @rickarra1833
      @rickarra1833 2 года назад

      While I agree with most everything you mention, at the time of the TV show, he was older, health failing, and running a business. However, his hands were dirty for years.

    • @rickarra1833
      @rickarra1833 2 года назад +4

      The guy who lucked out, now works for Jay Leno. That's a great gig

    • @williambozynski1176
      @williambozynski1176 2 года назад +13

      You sure are right about that shop supervisor. I couldn't work for a guy like that and Boyd allowed that behavior to continue.

    • @norb0254
      @norb0254 2 года назад +4

      He didn't have to get his hands dirty anymore ,he created a business and could employ highly skilled people to bring the projects to life ...I would imagine working with him would have been worse than working for him

    • @stevenmarcinkowski8577
      @stevenmarcinkowski8577 2 года назад

      Yep. He was a prick

  • @gnm109
    @gnm109 2 года назад +34

    Wow, talk about a hostile workplace. Boyd was a good designer but a terrible boss. Dwayne was just mean. Compare Boyd's relationship to his employees to Dave Kindig's on Bitchin' Rides.

  • @marcstephan7650
    @marcstephan7650 2 года назад +13

    He had questional business practices but I appreciate that back in the mid 1980's he outsourced work to my shop. That gave me reconation advancing my place in the click with in the custom car industry at that time. Many people ended up disliking him because of how he used up people.

    • @darwinxke2827
      @darwinxke2827 2 года назад

      It’s “recognition “ and “ clique”. I’m great at English. I cannot change my own oil, but I can spell (eh?). Who is this “Chip” dick?

  • @raymondtuckerjr1886
    @raymondtuckerjr1886 2 года назад +4

    I really enjoyed this video, glad I found it. I've enjoyed Boyd forever, and miss his presence in "Car guy world" and he's irreplaceable. The "Boyd Look" endures everywhere you look. RIP 🙏

    • @gnm109
      @gnm109 2 года назад +1

      But he was nasty.

    • @johnfellows2867
      @johnfellows2867 Год назад +1

      @@gnm109 And thats putting it mildly !

  • @lashawnthomas557
    @lashawnthomas557 2 года назад +3

    RIH Boyd. He had high standards for his customers cars he built. You can’t argue with that!!

    • @digitalchaos1980
      @digitalchaos1980 Год назад

      Is that acronym for Rest In Heaven, or Rest In Hell? Lol

    • @619erify
      @619erify Год назад

      Mine is BIH (Burn in Hell)

  • @roymartin4771
    @roymartin4771 2 года назад +13

    Quite frankly i thought he and his shop manager were royal pricks.

  • @teraann8399
    @teraann8399 2 года назад +14

    I would nominate Gene Winfield as ten times the Hot-Rodder and ten times the man.

    • @lilorbielilorbie2496
      @lilorbielilorbie2496 2 года назад +4

      Tera Ann And at 90 something years old Mr. Winfield is still building/painting cars in the California desert.

    • @buzzedalldrink9131
      @buzzedalldrink9131 2 года назад +2

      I second that, brother

    • @jimmyfleetwood1118
      @jimmyfleetwood1118 2 года назад +4

      I've met Gene. He is a good guy. We have remember, he's from a different generation...a better generation.

    • @buzzedalldrink9131
      @buzzedalldrink9131 2 года назад

      @@jimmyfleetwood1118 I would live to meet him
      seems like a wonderful person Not many like him around thats for sure

    • @jimmyfleetwood1118
      @jimmyfleetwood1118 2 года назад

      @@buzzedalldrink9131 He treated me right. I met him at the debut of the (then) recently restored "jade Idol" at the Oakland Roadster Show. He kindly let me sit in the car (in the display) and wasn't short with his time.

  • @alan8887
    @alan8887 2 года назад +11

    I remember Boyd. Beautiful car fabrication but the worst boss ever. I wouldn't buy one of Boyd's cars because whoever built it was miserable working on it.

  • @chassetterfield9559
    @chassetterfield9559 2 года назад +9

    The programs were always interesting, but later series were marred by the absurd time schedules that were apparently applied to projects, to create 'jeopardy' for the benefit of the film makers ( no doubt like the frequent arguments & fights that broke out ). As someone committed to perfection as he clearly was, it is crazy that he should compromise something that is going out with his name on it, by skimping, or cutting corners, in order to meet an unrealistic schedule.

  • @normanwyatt8761
    @normanwyatt8761 2 года назад +16

    Boyd built some great cars but watching his show would stress me out with the constant bickering, arguing, firing employees, etc., etc.........It wasn't a happy show for sure.........

  • @spooge33
    @spooge33 2 года назад +5

    If you were introduced to Boyd via American Hot Rod like myself, you saw A-hole 1, and A-hole 2, running the shop. Unwatchable.

  • @lovett1200
    @lovett1200 2 года назад

    I think we watched every episode of American Hot Rod...it was very interesting...still miss those guys...

  • @dashobie
    @dashobie 11 месяцев назад

    Love everyone of Boyd's creations.

  • @billdouglas6561
    @billdouglas6561 2 года назад +5

    It's great to see his sons are carrying on the tradition !! Just don't happen much in this world today. No one wants to work anymore !!!

    • @atrem7942
      @atrem7942 2 года назад +1

      No Sir, no one wants or needs to get screamed at the all the live long day. It is fucking car shop not the army or prison. Create a positive environment, don't over ask your employees on a regular basis. Let them have their own free time a day of if needed.

    • @scottmeeker9971
      @scottmeeker9971 2 года назад +1

      Sweat shop. I worked in sweat shops for 20 years. It sucks. Boyd cared more about making money than treating his employees like human beings. A good company can be lucrative AND treat it's employees fair.

  • @velvetjones1856
    @velvetjones1856 2 года назад +4

    In the beginning, Boyd was setting a new trend with clean designs having a throwback look with modern components. By the time Boyd was on TV, the designs were not really original with a lot of cookie cutter designs. Boyd didn't give credit to his employees like Foose, his painter and Mike. He drove them away with unrealistic deadlines and treated them like dirt. He always called Foose the enemy.

    • @peterbarber7613
      @peterbarber7613 2 года назад +1

      velvet Jones. In the beginning Boyd wasn't doing the designing Foose was

    • @velvetjones1856
      @velvetjones1856 2 года назад

      @@peterbarber7613 Very true.

  • @tomlanore4283
    @tomlanore4283 2 года назад +14

    I watched maybe 6 or 7 episodes on his show. His staff did everything. He would give the artist an idea for a car. Then the artist would draw it up until it was approved. Then his other minions went to work building the car. He pretty much just walked around cracking the whip. So to say the cars built by him is a joke. The real craftsman never were included.
    But then again all car designers do the same thing.

  • @michaelalan1270
    @michaelalan1270 2 года назад +5

    he was a horrible boss and his shop foreman was a real sob. He was vengeful to anyone who left him, especially the ones who went to work for his rivals like Chip Foose, a very nice guy.

  • @f1kwa399
    @f1kwa399 2 года назад +1

    A lot of talented guys got their foot on the hot rod ladder through working for Boyd, personally I always looked forward to visiting the shop every first Saturday of the month, those were special times I’ll not forget. I’ve yet to wear a new black Boyd Coddington “shop - T” I bought myself, maybe one day there’ll be an occasion…

  • @regandunn4850
    @regandunn4850 2 года назад +9

    His dwarf foreman would be thrown into the street if he pulled his crap around me

  • @craigmonteforte1478
    @craigmonteforte1478 2 года назад

    I never thought of Boyd being a great Automobile Designer , more of a smart business man Yes and as most Machinists are very good at attention to Details and high Quality Boyd was great at putting great talented people together and Promoting his Products and making Profits Boyd was one heck of a Awesome Promoter and Marketing. he stayed on top of Technolgy and wasn’t afraid to Invest large sums of money into it that he turned into Money-making ideas way after Boyd has beenGone all the Men and Women associated with Boyd Coddington will be Legends in the Automotive Industry

  • @josephrogers9701
    @josephrogers9701 2 года назад +5

    His feud with Foose after Chip left was hateful. When Boyd was dying he tried to make amends. He realized how wrong he was.

  • @iansaunders8694
    @iansaunders8694 2 года назад +2

    He was only a legend in his own mind.

  • @glennnickerson8438
    @glennnickerson8438 2 года назад +9

    Real life or Reality TV? The lure of stardom has ruined more than one career and tarnished the reputation of many more. The few episodes I watched were nauseating and portrayed Mr. Coddington and some others as intolerable. A sad epitaph for a talented individual...

    • @tomstiel7576
      @tomstiel7576 2 года назад +3

      reminds me of the Orange county chopper show out of new york

  • @TOBYH
    @TOBYH 2 года назад +3

    THERE WAS MORE ARGUEING THAN WORKING ON THE CARS! I WANT TO SEE HOW THEY DO THINGS,
    NOT HEAR OFF PISSED OFF WORKERS YELLING AT EACH OTHER, WASTE OF TIME, I WENT TO THE SHOP
    ON OPEN HOUSES, IT WAS COOL, BUT THE SHOW GOT OUT OF HAND, MORE ABOUT FIRING PEOPLE
    THEN SHOWING YOU HOW TO CUSTOMIZE CARS, R.I.P BOYD.

  • @joelincoln3529
    @joelincoln3529 2 года назад

    I watched to the end... truly the best

  • @TommyRibs
    @TommyRibs 2 года назад +2

    Bottom Line, Boyd cared more about the cars then he did his own people.
    He had some amazing people that he was blessed to have there, and he let Dwayne chase them away.

  • @rogerw3818
    @rogerw3818 2 года назад +4

    If all one knew of him was from that ridiculous TV show, then the only impression was that he put his workers in unreasonable situations, never did any work himself, just coming in at the end and getting all the praise. I'm glad I was able to follow his career through the magazines of the time. That show was unwatchable.

  • @uhplumber5962
    @uhplumber5962 2 года назад +4

    Has anyone ever seen Boyd smile?

    • @prest9497
      @prest9497 2 года назад

      Yes all the time his wife joe is my aunt he was a great person just good peson all together alot different than every body sees on the show

  • @sarahelhussein127
    @sarahelhussein127 2 года назад

    My all time favorite channel

  • @salimamahmoud9158
    @salimamahmoud9158 2 года назад +2

    Keep posting videos like this

  • @dandrake1372
    @dandrake1372 2 года назад

    He built the 57 Chevy promotion car for Oreilly Auto Parts. The Chubster! Was given away at the Oreilly manager conference. I was there and got to meet Boyd and his wife. Great time.

  • @trucker8084
    @trucker8084 2 года назад +7

    Boyd was the same type of designer that most of these shows have in common sits behind a desk draws a car and many other very skilled and talented Machinist and mechanics make the car he probably didn't know the difference between a socket wrench and a screwdriver. And after reading many articles and watching many stories on him he was well known for being quite an a******...

    • @norb0254
      @norb0254 2 года назад

      It did say at the beginning he was a machinist ,and initally built cars by himself ,so probably know the difference between a screwdriver and socket wrench...

    • @stevenmarcinkowski8577
      @stevenmarcinkowski8577 2 года назад

      Chip Foose had him faded

    • @lilorbielilorbie2496
      @lilorbielilorbie2496 2 года назад

      Trucker808! He used to be a machinist for Disney Land.

  • @danieleaton1399
    @danieleaton1399 2 года назад

    Use to watch his program but when the crazy deadline's came in it's no surprise people had to leave

  • @scottmeeker9971
    @scottmeeker9971 2 года назад +2

    Sweat shop. I worked in sweat shops for 20 years. It sucks. Boyd cared more about making money than treating his employees like human beings. A good company can be lucrative AND treat it's employees fair.

  • @yensabi
    @yensabi 2 года назад +1

    Watched every episode back in the day and enjoyed them , later down the line Boyd gave his crew too many crazy deadlines probably due to TV sponsorship telling him what they wanted and sadly most of the top crew members left .
    The only one I despised was Dwayne , he was stuck up Boyds arse so far it was unreal and I think most of the guys hated him.....
    My favourite character was old Skool metal man Roy , he didn't give a shit and just turned up and did his job with a lot of pranks along the way , I remember the episode Boyd announced Roy's passing , I must admit I had tears in my eyes..

  • @townhall05446
    @townhall05446 2 года назад +1

    I remember that when that town brought a '58 (?) Plymouth Fury out of the underground vault where it had been for 50 years, Boyd was there to help get the car running and driving. I think it must have disgusted him to see what had been allowed to happen to it, with the whole car having spent a long time completely submerged.

  • @3_Gold_Coins
    @3_Gold_Coins 2 года назад

    I was lucky enough to meet Boyd, and see the La Habra shop.

  • @crisestrada9964
    @crisestrada9964 2 года назад +1

    I met him at SEMA when "Junkyard Dog " was unvailed he was a Cool Dude but high strung ,there is a Sport truck magazine in which Chip Foose revals what realy happened, Met Chip Foose March 2015

    • @mc4492
      @mc4492 2 года назад

      How is Foose as a person?..

  • @richardtrow2751
    @richardtrow2751 2 года назад

    Loved American hot rod 👌 watched every episode some amazing car's and characters .

  • @qmzlimlk5577
    @qmzlimlk5577 2 года назад +1

    It's admirable not just sublime!

  • @rayanhellani3680
    @rayanhellani3680 2 года назад

    Always on top as usual

  • @johnbroomer3285
    @johnbroomer3285 2 года назад

    I didn’t know anything about him until I started watching that show. I don’t know if he played the part for the show or not, but that basically meant that anyone who knew him only through it would think he was an a**hole. Not necessarily the legacy you want for yourself, especially when you exit this life early.

  • @rudeboz5486
    @rudeboz5486 2 года назад +9

    dwyne was a knob and had no supervisiory skills

  • @deanmarskell1518
    @deanmarskell1518 2 года назад

    Rip Boyd I watched American hot rod on telly when I got home from work lots of great cars one that sticks in my memory was junkyard Dog 👍

  • @lasalleman6792
    @lasalleman6792 2 года назад

    I remember years ago he was working on a 57 Chevrolet station-wagon that he installed a corvette independent rear suspension on. I wonder whatever happened to that car.

  • @TarenGibson
    @TarenGibson 2 года назад +1

    TDG #1 FULLSUPPORT
    TLC BIG FAX

  • @mickeyking6584
    @mickeyking6584 2 года назад +1

    Look up his criminal record! The SOB cheated anybody that he didn't need. Took credit for others work or ideas. I worked 30 hrs straight and was paid for 8. Was a miserable place to work!

  • @letsgobrandon8661
    @letsgobrandon8661 2 года назад +1

    Boyd thought he was one of The Beach Boys.

  • @olderbutwiser4076
    @olderbutwiser4076 2 года назад +5

    He built beautiful cars that cost mountains of money. I loved the look of his cars but prefer the rat rods that are much closer to the original spirit of hot rods and can actually be built by your average gearhead.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 2 года назад +1

      Same here mate

  • @neiledwards5100
    @neiledwards5100 2 года назад +6

    He ruined some lovely classic cars

  • @grantellis3046
    @grantellis3046 2 года назад +1

    One of the nicest people I have ever met, as I used to deliver products to the shop. And I spent time reminiscing with his wife after his passing at the SEMA show RIP

  • @joeseczulaica3053
    @joeseczulaica3053 2 года назад +1

    I hope that his sons will continue his legacy , Love his Show

  • @bradmccoy7996
    @bradmccoy7996 2 года назад

    A self absorbed man

  • @jessyaoun7156
    @jessyaoun7156 2 года назад

    Great video keep going

  • @scubatrucker6806
    @scubatrucker6806 2 года назад

    Great hot rod builder.😎

  • @jeffmessenger6294
    @jeffmessenger6294 2 года назад

    I watched till the end.

  • @gregorycatren3442
    @gregorycatren3442 2 года назад +1

    A true icon in the hot rod industry..
    Gone but not forgotten... I'm
    RIP BOYD

  • @THROTTLEPOWER
    @THROTTLEPOWER 2 года назад +1

    Always hooked up with Boyd every year in Indy at the Goodguys show, he was one heck of a Machinist and car builder!! 🙂 Always liked his wheels too, great vid, really enjoyed!!!!👍

    • @peterbarber7613
      @peterbarber7613 2 года назад

      THROTTLE POWER. Pitty he never actually worked on the cars.

  • @VilleGarde
    @VilleGarde 2 года назад +1

    I remember one episode where he expected his employees to do work for him on their day off for free.

  • @WhiskeyTango68
    @WhiskeyTango68 2 года назад

    I’ve been digging into his past and documentaries, his “greatness” was always achieved by someone else’s labor and engineering/parts…so what exactly did he provide to this brand besides his name and a roof. Trying to figure that out still…

  • @rickijimenez2386
    @rickijimenez2386 2 года назад +3

    Hey I know let’s make a TV show about not having fun working on cars ! And then we’ll turn the screws on the fabricators with crazy deadlines to finish the cars ! And to top it off we’ll have a shop supervisor that is disrespectful to everybody !

  • @chrisjarvis4449
    @chrisjarvis4449 2 года назад +1

    you can't do work with out being paid . no mater who it is , you got to get that up front money and installments as the job goes along . like this ol boy told me one time if any body ask you if you can do something you tell them [if we don't run out of money i think we can do it] so in god we trust all others pay cash.

  • @josephpalen7149
    @josephpalen7149 2 года назад

    I watched til the end

  • @glusnifr
    @glusnifr 2 года назад

    i watched till the end

  • @harrywalsh791
    @harrywalsh791 2 года назад

    I watched till the end

  • @michaelconroy8060
    @michaelconroy8060 Год назад

    The last thing I would want to buy car wise, is a car where the builder ran out of time to build because there is a performance curve associated with time left on a clock and both detail and craftsmanship suffer at the end of that curve.......doesn't matter which show or who the players are, it's just the way it is....

  • @vppnbrent
    @vppnbrent 2 года назад +1

    I was a big fan of Boyd and his TV show.RIP.

  • @TarenGibson
    @TarenGibson 2 года назад +1

    AMEN GOD BLESS RIP THIS MAN American hot Rod 1944-2008

  • @donaldgarrison4313
    @donaldgarrison4313 Год назад

    Love that !! What happened

  • @youmnaboutrous2810
    @youmnaboutrous2810 2 года назад +1

    He had the best life ever

    • @darwinxke2827
      @darwinxke2827 2 года назад

      He died of a horribly painful condition. Good life, yep you are correct,sir. Not the best though my friend. Peace.

  • @Dirtmodmaniac
    @Dirtmodmaniac 2 года назад

    Whatever happened to his guys ? Where are they working in 2022 ?

  • @optimusprimer4392
    @optimusprimer4392 2 года назад

    Boyd and Dwayne wrecked that show

  • @FrankTech
    @FrankTech 2 года назад

    The prob with American hot rod and the way he ran his business was the deadlines. He made an 8wk deadline once and then afterwards every build thereafter was 6-8wks.. people can’t work like that.. and he didn’t care..

  • @ericcarabetta1161
    @ericcarabetta1161 2 года назад +1

    I watched til the end! I remember watching the show back in the day and thinking; "wow, that guy seems like a big douche".

  • @farahmsharafieh4234
    @farahmsharafieh4234 2 года назад

    This is so interesting

  • @jerryb3243
    @jerryb3243 2 года назад

    Loved the cars, hated the drama.

  • @tb-yz1ti
    @tb-yz1ti 2 года назад

    Good luck guys 🇦🇺🇺🇸✌️👍

  • @eutimiochavez415
    @eutimiochavez415 2 года назад

    What happen to all the cars that he built ?

    • @scootypooper
      @scootypooper 2 года назад

      they are being sold at huge loss

  • @benniebarrow348
    @benniebarrow348 2 года назад +1

    He was definitely a Hot Rod talent. But like a lot of successful guys his relationship with employees was terrible. When his third wife Jo injected herself into the programming with nothing to add but silly conversations to get face time and those deadlines became so ridiculous the show lost it's luster.

  • @jamestone265
    @jamestone265 2 года назад +4

    Made some bad decisions. Had more than a few enemies. Had talent that showed but he could have done way more.

  • @kjtilka
    @kjtilka Год назад

    Chip Foose was the one who designed all his cars and the reason for his success

  • @05gtdriver
    @05gtdriver 2 года назад

    I used to live in Whittier CA about 20 years ago and I'd frequently see Mr. Coddington at the Marie Callenders restaurant in the Friendly Hills section of Whittier knocking a few back. I only spoke with him on a couple of occasions, once as he was exiting and I was entering. He seemed perfectly nice and not boorish or off-putting. Sad he left so young, 63 is still pretty young IMO. His shop was down the street from a close friend of mine. That was on Lambert Road in La Habra CA.

  • @indyguy3400
    @indyguy3400 2 года назад +2

    He also got caught embezzling money

  • @raymondcampbell3095
    @raymondcampbell3095 2 года назад

    He was a good car builder

  • @danielsmithwick5299
    @danielsmithwick5299 2 года назад

    I remember I couldn’t wait to get off work on Saturdays to see the show. The crew was great till it.broke up

  • @guscarr7169
    @guscarr7169 2 года назад +1

    When Boyd passed away we lost one of the greatest auto designers. I very much enjoyed his show.

  • @petercook3143
    @petercook3143 2 года назад +2

    Ya, what a Jerk to his employees who make his name and success, typical American Business man, sadly. See Joe's comments below.

  • @birmeleginkalbi2445
    @birmeleginkalbi2445 2 года назад

    'I watched till the end'

  • @dewightkey6975
    @dewightkey6975 2 года назад

    He had a good show

  • @kriscummins1684
    @kriscummins1684 2 года назад

    Great show he is a legend

  • @tdub5776
    @tdub5776 2 года назад

    How about even thinking outside america? An Australian guy called Rod Hadfield has built so many rods and took one to the states and got best in shows at everything he attended.

  • @allenbaxter5180
    @allenbaxter5180 2 года назад +3

    Just a man talented yes, but his head and ego were bigger

  • @scootypooper
    @scootypooper 2 года назад +1

    he was a Richard of the first order!

  • @donyost3464
    @donyost3464 2 года назад

    King of Hot Rods ? My Nephew Barry White !!! S.M.C. Forever !