Some corrections! Grover is actually supposed to look slightly older than Percy. I missed this at first because it's only subtly alluded to, but Percy did suspect him of being held back a couple years in school due to his acne and facial hair. Chiron also later reveals that Grover is 28 years old, but looks younger because satyrs age at half the rate of humans, which would make him look around 14. It's revealed in the third Magnus Chase book, _The Ship of the Dead,_ that Riptide's pronouns are actually she/her. I deeply apologize for misgendering her, and will do better in the future. Technically, the cabins weren't all built when Camp Half-Blood was founded. According to _Camp Half-Blood Confidential,_ campers originally slept in the Big House. It wasn't until the camp got more crowded that Chiron divided the campers into family groups and had them build cabins. The idea that Poseidon built a cabin specifically for Percy is still inaccurate, but my explanation was mistaken. Also, if we really want to be technical, some of the cabins were destroyed and rebuilt at least once during the camp's lifetime, as alluded to by Zoë and Artemis in _The Titan's Curse._ Medusa actually _is_ implied to have some level of hypnotic power during the fight with her in the book. I should not have sinned that scene. In this video, I claim that the gift Poseidon gave the Athenians to rival Athena's olive tree was the saltwater spring. That is accurate to how Annabeth tells the story in _The Lightning Thief,_ but in the account of the competition Percy gives in _Percy Jackson's Greek Gods,_ Poseidon's gift for the competition was the horse, with the creation of the saltwater spring being a separate event. I can't seem to find anything to suggest either version of the story is correct or incorrect, so I'm just going to leave this at "I only quoted one version of the story, and failed to acknowledge other equally valid versions." More of an excuse than a correction, but it has since occurred to me that this movie came out before _The Mark of Athena,_ the first appearance of the Athena Parthenos statue in the Riordanverse canon. So at least from the perspective of the books, it's only an inaccuracy in retrospect, which isn't entirely fair. Of course, had they followed the book and not included the Parthenon scene, they wouldn't have opened themselves up to retroactive inaccuracies like this. And this doesn't solve the issue of them blatantly misrepresenting a real piece of classical artwork, but that's a whole other thing. My pronunciation of Thalia is different from how Rick Riordan pronounces it. He uses a short A in the middle (Thah-lia), I used a long A (Thay-lia). I believe I first got that pronunciation from the audiobooks, which are not always great about correct pronunciation. In my defense, various online sources do list Thay-lia as a valid alternative pronunciation, but from what I can tell, it's not the one the author intended. While Persephone's affair with Adonis is not mentioned in the mainline books, Percy does give an account of that story in _Percy Jackson's Greek Gods._ So it did still canonically happen, it just never comes up in Percy's own story. Persephone does, in fact, have some control over the forces of the Underworld. In _The Sword of Hades,_ she manipulates shadows to transport Nico to New York City, and splits the earth open to drop Nico, Percy and Thalia into her throne room. She is not just a nature goddess. It's five thrones on either side, not ten. Clearly, I forgot to make my customary sacrifice to Athena before doing the math for that sin. Artemis's preferred hair color is auburn, not black.
I actually greatly prefer this style over deafult cinemasins, which has too much nonsense and jokes that distract from the criticism. Please do Percy Jackson and the Sea of Monsters next!!
@@jenny_therobot You are absolutely right. I must've been using a Wiki for a quick reference and gotten mixed up with her hair color from _Percy Jackson's Greek Gods._
Persephone wants to be with Hades. there are many instances in the books that show this. also, Riptide is a ballpoint pen, that becomes a sword when the cap is removed, not a clickpen.
Hey, hate the movie to a tee, but the Medusa charming people into opening their eyes is true. Not something she does retroactively, but Percy mentions how he feels tempted to open his eyes as if the snakes are calling to him and due to Medusa's voice. Probably a visual way to represent the same idea.
this video is incorrect the character names and the facts its based on Greek mythology are the only accuracies they should just cut out every time they say their names and let the rest of the movie play
@@purpledragon1945 Yeah, there was actually a Lightning Thief musical, it even made it to Broadway. I actually saw it in Boston during its national tour. It was legitimately really good. It takes its creative liberties, but it's a very faithful adaptation for the new medium.
The only reason he doesn’t have a throne on Olympus is because he goes there so rarely that there was no point in having one, especially seeing as Hades had a full-time job of overseeing the Underworld. He’d have to have a very good reason to leave to begin with
Really? Is that myth hades or percy jackson hades? Because I do believe that percy jackson hades was banished that’s why he was only able to attend to olympian meetings in the winter, percy also said that hades was banished and he felt bad for the guy in the lighting thief
@@merlinrecon7528 I just double checked and he wasn't banished in the original Greek mythology and inPercy Jackson he just never really got the chance because the underworld is a full time job and he was always considered creepy
@@jenniferenglert870 ohhh I see then I guess he was just shunned by his family then??? Because if he’s not, the whole “I build my underwold palaces as close as I can to resemble Olympus except in black” wouldn’t make sense
@@merlinrecon7528 Yeah. The other gods still don't like him very much, but Hades envies them and wants more credit for the work he does. He wishes he could have a throne on Olympus, hence the designing of his palace after it.
@@randompersonontheinternet. You're right. But even if the man can see through the mist, he looks about 50-60, so he probably would've seen a lot of stuff like this before. Or he's just like 'Oh my gods! It's Poseidon!'
The mist isnt actually referred to in the first movie at all. the second one establishes it as some kind of a limited physical resource used to cover select mythological events. annabeth uses some kind of cologne bottle with mist in it to make it so that tyson has two eyes instead of one. which is even worse
You forgot to mention that Hades was angry over being accused of wanting to raise an army of the dead, as it's mentioned over the series that the Underworld is rather crowded BECAUSE there's too many dead souls coming into the Underworld Throughout the series, Percy has never actually managed to beat Luke. Thalia was the only demigod character in the series to have actually defeated Luke in battle. But in every battle Percy had against Luke, he was more or less on the losing end
Not true. Only every serious battle. The first fight percy had against Luke, before he got riptide proper, he did manage to disarm Luke and hold him at swordpoint, but it was with a water boost, and it was in a training fight.
They probably would’ve made Jason into some asshole jock character. And remove Nico’s character development an keep him as a starry eyed Percy stan (which he was at first)
What's ironic about Hades, is that given that he's charged with ruling over the most miserable place in existence, and has the most motivation to be a villain,he's actually one of the most moral and honorable gods in mythology. Loves his wife, has a code of honor, and can be moved to charity with a simple love story. Compared to other gods like Hera who have everything, but still will lie, plot, cheat and murder for her own selfish gain. Hades has a complicated relationship with his siblings as he's been charged with ruling over all of the souls in a world of people who are constantly dying, but it's completely understandable. He still doesn't hate them for it. Side note that the movie missed that I loved in the book. The main reason the underworld was depressing is that the dead got exactly what they deserved, but for most of humanity, that was wandering aimlessly in a dreary field devoid of pleasure or pain, as they were content in life to accomplish nothing.
I agree with most of the points about Hera, except the cheating part. Most of her plotting and murdering was as revenge for Zeus cheating on her and siring demigod/godly children, because she’s the goddess of marriage and family. I’d agree with it way more if that was said about someone like Aphrodite, who does all of the above and can be vastly more petty than Hera. Just ask Psyche
@@thinkingsoutherner9911 Seeing as both Hera and Athena ensured the downfal of Troy and by extension the butchery and enslavement of its entire population simply because Aphrodite (the goddess of beauty amongst other things) beat them in a beauty contest I'd reconsider who's the most petty. As for Psche, she kinda had it coming tbh. As a princess she had the authority to forbid people to worship her. She didn't; causing Aphrodite's temples to fall into ruin because people started to worship Psycke instead. To make matters worse she then betrayed Eros trust and injured him to boot, leading to a now properly pissed-off Aphrodite comforting and tending to the burns of her distraught son. Another offence might simply be their marriage itself as they never got her blessing and married in secret; especially bad considering Aphrodite is the leader of the gods of marriage alongside Hera (and Zeus I think).
@@SimplymeSVEN18 First of all, where in my reply did I condone Hera and Athena’s actions during the Trojan War? I never denied that Hera was petty and vindictive, just that she could be comparatively less petty at times than someone like Aphrodite, and that she abhorred infidelity due to her deific role. Second of all, whether or not you think Psyche deserved what Aphrodite did to her, you can’t deny that it was extremely petty regardless. Even Zeus recognized that during her third task and sent an eagle down to help her without forcing herself on her, and Eros went to save her no questions asked when she messed up the fourth trial against Aphrodite’s wishes
@@thinkingsoutherner9911 Probably the same place where I said you did. As for Hera being less vindictive...very much disagree. Most of Zeus's conquests were raped or deceived by him and their children were innocent entirely. Blaming the victim is about as petty as you can get imo. And again, the innocent children... So was Hera for making Leto suffer through 9 days of Labour. By all but kidnapping her own daughter to ensure Leto wouldn't give birth no less.
@@SimplymeSVEN18 Read my first reply again. I said that most of her plotting and murdering was vengeance against Zeus (which when carried out against his victims is unjustifiable). Most does not mean all. Her actions in the Trojan War are an exception to that, as it was out of sheer pettiness, just like pretty much everything else. So stop putting words in my mouth to try and put me down when we both agree that both Hera and Aphrodite are extremely petty and vindictive
As someone who doesn’t read books I feel very informed and a little sad with how much they took out of the movies. Th original adventure sound far more interesting, the movie now feels rushed and cut in half.
The truth is that the Percy Jackson books doesn’t really fit movies imo because it’s very episodic where the characters are always moving place to place, bit by bit to achieve their role, each time with a different mythological encounter, and that makes me think it would make an AWESOME show. Like an ATLA style animated show would be absolutely PEAK FICTION
"In this video, I use the word 'sin' to mean any difference between the book and movie. This is purely stylistic. Inaccurate does not mean bad." *Though in this movie's case, it does*
Kinda? There's so little of the book in the movie it can be appreciated in its own right with a new name like say, Penelope Johnston. Even with this in mind, it's only kinda good at best.
@tinygrove7623 I love the idea, but it still clashes with the rules of the world, because any sort of technology/electronics would likely draw monsters to them.
@@NachoCheeseDorito-Kun i think that’s also wrong, i think they can’t use phones because their voice attracts monsters and gets carried through the air waves but a ipod just plays music, so they should be able to use it i think, i could be wrong tho.
This is something of a test run for an idea I've had for a while now: Adaptation Sins. Like CinemaSins, but for comparing adaptations to their source material instead of tongue-in-cheek film criticism. Definitely let me know what you think of it! Depending on how this goes, and how much material I can find, this may become the pilot to a full series.
Obviously commenting before the video itself is premiered but, can I make a pre-suggestion, to make it closer to CinemaWins instead of Sins. Pointing out differences per adaptation is a good idea though. Maybe also not the negative changes but also the good ones, like maybe a scene was remove for better pacing. Plus instead of maybe just going for single bits and moving to another, maybe a short explanation on how the change affected the movie or the scene, if possible. Doesn't have to be every difference, just the once that are material.
@@McJethroPovTee this!!! i gotta say as a scriptwriter these adaptation things are interesting bnut i do wanna see credit both ways, some things have to be changed for pacing, understanding, audience shifts, and it'd be cool to appreciate those reasons and their impact aswell as the times where it has been a problem
Fair points. I did knock a sin off for Grover's crutches for pretty much that exact reason. Maybe I'll be more generous with things like that going forward. Or maybe Adaptation Wins can become a thing someday.
I actually don't mind the "x character was blond in the books" differences because the appearance of characters rarelly influence plot... it's just that everything else was so wrong it's annowing they didn't even bother to get that right
i think Annabeth being blonde was meant to have more significance than just an aspect of appearance because it was meant to be like, people underestimate Annabeth because they think blonde girls are stupid, that sort of thing
The children of Athena having blonde hair and grey eyes was a calling card for them, every child has those traits because Athena had blonde hair and grey eyes in the books, so there was a reason for the blonde hair.
this is actually not true in annabeths case. her being blonde actually caused octavian to let his guard down when she disobeyed his order of putting down the knife and instead throwing it into the water to alert percy. its also like one of her main physical traits, sort of how one of percy's main physical traits was the sea-green eyes he had. while percy's eyes dont match exactly with the books, its close enough. annabeth's hair in the movies on the other hand looks nothing like the blonde color she is always described as having
Yeah, appearance changes don't bother me that much in the grand scheme of things. They're largely in the "only called sins for the sake of the format" category.
Fun fact: here in Brazil there is this really famous singer called Zé Ramalho, and he looks exactly like this movie Hades, in the Portuguese dub of this movies Grover outright screams to him to “Stay in the Zé Ramalho vibe” (in Portuguese he says “Fica na pegada do Zé Ramalho”), and is genuinely the only joke with him that made me laugh in the two movies Another fun fact: the guy who does Grover’s voice in the dub version(Wendel Bezerra) also dubs Goku and SpongeBob(he’s so talented you don’t even recognize the difference unless you pay attention) So thanks to the dub version for making this movie 0000,01% better
Whenever I am in a position to rewatch these movies, I watch the Japanese dub. Percy is voiced by Mamoru Miyano (known for voicing Kira from Death Note, Ling Yao from FMAB, Death the Kid from soul eater, etc). It's a perfect fit and makes them 100% more enjoyable (100% more than .000001% being .000002% lol)
17:02 I actually have a theory that this was a crappy attempt at foreshadowing. Basically, the idea was that, since monsters are attracted to Wi-Fi signals, this was supposed to be Luke setting up a beacon for where camp is. Unfortunately, it’s only able to be taken as foreshadowing if you know that, and since it wasn’t explained in the movie, you’d have had to have read the book, and therefore KNOW THE TWIST, to catch the foreshadowing. It doesn’t make the movie better, and in fact, if I’m right, that makes the movie even worse. 36:04 BANISHED? *_BANISHED?_* THIS IS BEYOND INANE! The three brothers cast lots to determine who ruled what. Zeus got the sky, Poseidon got water, and Hades got the underworld. In the Camp Half-Blood Series in particular, Zeus even had to convince Hades to take the underworld as his domain, as stated in Percy Jackson’s Greek Gods.
I agree. A good movie should stand on its own. If you had to have read the source material to understand something bc it's not clear or left unexplained then it should've been chopped from the movie.
But at least in Disney’s he was entertaining, not directly made to be the devil, and wasn’t in a story made to be accurate. What’s even worse is that in the books they subvert the expectations that Hades is the villain.
I blame Disney's Hercules for a lot of the inaccuracies in this movie. Think about some of the biggest inaccuracies and then look to Disney's Hercules: -not understanding the difference between Hades and the pop culture version of Satan and the pure vilification of Hades (let's be real, there is no understanding of either among most people) -the Hydra scene is an insert from Disney's Hercules -use of Christian termonology and visuals (Hell being the underworld/Hercules praying) Point is, a lot of paralells can be drawn. And now we just need to hope that the same company gets it right? To be fair given who is involved with the Disney+ series I do believe it will be good. It is ironic that we need to trust the studio that created this mess in the first place to fix it though.
@@audiobooksforfree7857 My point was a paralell analysis alongside Disney's Hercules, which put a lot of incorrect versions of these stories in public conscience. Disney+ Percey Jackson (which I believe will be good seeing the people involved) is a weird coincidence. Maybe Disney is just giving Rick a chance to clean up their mess, I hope it works out.
@@sholamakinde430 I should mention, my religion is pretty adjacent to Greek and Roman gods. So I have perspective on this. Imagine if Christianity went extinct and was only ever talked about as "of course those are just myths" as a small community was bringing it back (flip the script), but then a film like Dogma was released and was a smash hit (to be clear, Dogma is funny BECAUSE it saturises something we see every day. I'm just using it as a thought experiment). How do you think that small group of remaining Christians would react? That's how I feel about Disney's Hercules and Fox's Percey Jackson movies.
I would argue that the depiction of the Underworld in Disney's Hercules seems more accurate than the one in the Percy Jackson movie. At least that one didn't look like the fire and brimstone type of Hell, but more like a vast area that could have both the unpleasant parts as well as the rewarding parts of the afterlife (even if they weren't shown). Also, I wouldn't blame the movie, so much as this was probably a perception many people had that didn't know the mythology. It certainly didn't help though.
I am SO HERE for the Hades, Hades/Persephone defense. I’m so sick of all media deciding he must be equitable to Satan and just making him the villain in every story.
The weirdest thing was how this movie changed the whole message of "the gods are awful and neglectful parents and need to do better" to "they are very loving, actually, they just can't be there" when really they just don't care as much
This is what I thought CinemaSins would be like before I started watching them in 2012-2013. There was a period where I enjoyed their content, but as the RUclips algorithm changed, they began to prioritize lengthy videos over legitimate points. This is good stuff. Although I haven't read the Lightning Thief since middle school!
Percy’s mother is still called Jackson, she’s listed as such in the end credits. The newsreader clearly just assumed that she’d changed her name when she married Gabe, just like she assumed that Percy was Gabe’s biological son.
29:26 This single handedly was the most infuriating part of the film imo (along with Persephone being in the underworld during summer 😒), it’s like they left it in the taunt us. As Dominic Noble said “Guys, go back, you forgot to meet Ares!” Amazing work by the way!
Apparently there was a plan for Ares to appear in that sequence. They even shot scenes with him, judging by set photos and trailer footage. But they cut him out of the movie, probably because his role was so diminished anyway.
In the first scene: Poseidon:"Omnipetence has blinded you,brother." There's no way he's that even in tellings where he's as strong as the rest of the Olympians,there's beings that get the better of him,such as the storm giant/ father of monsters,the dream/sleep god,night goddess,god of lust/love controls him, and the Three Fates controls him.
It's a cool concept, have you considered doing this to other book adaptations if this is received well? I can imagine you having a field day with Netflix The Witcher compared to the source material.
“5 sins for turning Hades into Satan” MAKE IT TEN. I have only watched the the movie adaptation of SoM because my teacher put it on despite various complaints from classmates (this is before I read the PJ books), so I was PISSED when I saw that scene here. I didn’t understand why people hated the movies when I watched SoM with zero context, book or movie, but I do now. If it were its own thing, it’d have been fine. As an adaptation? It’s shit. Actually horrific.
Although House of Hades hadn't been written at the time, it's still funny to me how changing Riptide from a capped pen to a click pen would have screwed them up really far down the line if they kept going. Also "Inaccurate does not mean bad" made me wheeze laugh for a solid minute. The only changes that can really be considered acceptable are very minor things, especially if it's for practicality reasons (Like how the new show Percy will be blond, I think it's fine to sacrifice that minor detail in exchange for the best actor possible)
I am fully on board the theory that Rick made Riptide able to write BECAUSE in the movies they made her a click pen and he just wanted to spite the bad writing. Also, if Riptide was a click pen HOW exactly is she supposed to go back to pen form from sword? Is there another click thing on her counter-weight? And if that’s the case, that means the clicker switches spots because the clicker is in the same side Riptide’s sword point comes out of. Also, imagine you’re a pen clicker and you don’t get your thumb out of the way fast enough. Like, whoopsies, no more finger because I just accidentally SLICED it off!
@@riftryn Maybe you just gently boop the point of the sword lol. Like, not outright STAB just a gentle little poke and the sword somehow understands the difference in intention.
my thing with this movie was that if they'd rebranded it as a completely different franchise (some generic 2000's fantastical adventure piece with young adult demigods, with slightly different characters and such to avoid all out plagiarism) it probably could have passed for a decent movie. the problem was that it was SUPPOSED to be an on-screen adaptation for a beloved--mostly kids--series of books; so the inaccuracies are inexcusable (within reason). imo its one of the biggest reasons the movies failed.
Your reading of the Medusa Anabeth scene was odd. I always took her “You will open your eyes” line more as a you can’t keep your eyes closed forever than implying she could magically persuade with her words.
What I find hilarious is the fact that Hades is the only one that held his end of the deal with not having mortal children, as Bianca and Nico were born in the 1930s, before the prophecy about a child of the Big Three came to fruition. He plainly shoved them into the casino to protect them from Zeus iirc.
I'd love to see more of this! You blended pointing out the inaccuracies with giving back points for the little nods they did right and I like that. Another thing I wanted to toss in was how Grover freaked over the rat in aunty em's, but he's a satyr, and loves all nature creatures and wouldn't freak out over that. I'm curious, do you plan on continuing with Sea of Monsters next?
I've just noticed one more thing in the Parthenon-scene: Annabeth uses a crossbow with arrows. Normal arrows cannot hurt monsters, so she surely only has arrows made by celestial bronze, since she does not intend to hurt mortals so she wouldn't have normal ones. She did not know those people were the hydra, why on earth would she shoot on percieved mortals with celestial bronze arrows, knowing that those cannot hurt mortals und tranquilizer darts only work when they pierce the skin which, if i remember correctly, wouldn't work with celestial bronze on mortals. Oh and while we're at it, why does she have tranquilizers?
I like the implication that Luke was the only one in his cabin. like where are all the other kids? Do they each just have their own cabin? WHERE ARE THEY
16 minutes in and this is SO cathartic. I'm going to rewatch the teaser trailers for the tv adaptation after this as a palate cleanser. I would also LOVE to see your take on the Sea of Monsters as well!!!
I was looking forward to this film as Maria Olsen (who plays Mrs Dodds) is a longtime good friend of mine. She'd gone to shoot the film, only telling me it was a Chris Columbus project. A few days later at an AMC was the li'l "coming next year" teaser. I asked and got confirmation this was on what she was working. The first three books were in a box set so I acquired them. Halfway through the first book I quickly obtained the rest of the series. I also contacted Maria to clarify my suspicion she was playing Mrs Dodds. She confirmed, asking how I'd possibly know that. I told her I was reading the book series, and it was obvious that that would be the role for which she would be cast. 😉 On the more detailed trailer came out, focusing on Maria in the museum, I was thrilled that they clearly would be following the books. I went to see it its opening day, and understandably was horrified at how off the source material they went after Maria's exit, let alone during her Furie scene, and her character not returning in multiple forms on the bus, etc. 😠
Now we need one of these for the atrociously horrible "adaptation" that was Artemis Fowl (which was so bad that Disney+ literally completely removed it, meaning the only way to watch it now is via piracy).
I knew it was a bust when the trailers showed artemis surfing. That little shit was super uncoordinated and had two left feet. Boy was super pale and had delicate pianoist hands, he had no physical prowess at all.
Plus, Butler shouldn't be black. I'm so...uncomfortable with the idea of a hero with a black manservant. Heck, Butler reveals his birth name a little too early.
I've never read the books though I've been intrigued. I now completely understand the hatred for the Fandom has for them. Just, wow. Thank you for this
As a test run for this idea, this was pretty entertaining and accurate. Percy Jackson was the first book series I ever read in my entirety, even before books like Harry Potter so it was nice to see another video discussing all the blatant mistakes in this movie compared to the books. I also think this was a pretty good time to test this idea given the recent renewed string of book IPs and their adaptations. The episodic adaptation of Percy Jackson comes up this December with a, fairly, more accurate adaptation of the book so you can check that out with this idea. Plus, there are rumors about JK Rowling creating a new TV adaptation for the Harry Potter books, to flesh out more stuff the movies skipped over, so if they are true, you could have some fun with that. I hope to see you continue this, especially with the Witcher.
This is so well done! I also love how you're not shy to reward the film for especially good bits of adaptation, plus this has really brought back some nostalgia for the Percy Jackson books...
38:15 It should also be noted that Hestia, Hephaestus, and Prometheus are all more suited for controlling fire for differing reasons. I will give the movie this: it is pretty nice to give Percy (and his friends by extension) Perseus’s arsenal (sword, shield, and head of Medusa).
26:04 The books were not immune from making mistakes about US landmarks either. During the actual stop in St. Louis, Percy supposedly dropped straight down from the arch into the Mississippi River. Only one problem: the area directly below the Arch is dry land, so Percy should have been a pancake. (The TV series changed it to have the water grab Percy midair and drag him to the river.)
i feel like annabeth’s gray eyes being replaced with bright blue eyes was a bad decision too. medusa noticed her eyes which is how she knew she was athena’s daughter (or at least i think that’s how). medusa also kept complimenting annabeth’s eyes. i think it also adds to her serious personality, because her intense gray eyes made people a little intimidated when they first met her. her eye color is something that she shares with her mom, and i kinda wish she still had them in the movie.
“Also, Annabeth is blonde!” I’m a bit surprised that he didn’t point out that she also is supposed to have stormy gray eyes at the same time, but also the “scene does not contain blue food” and “the Minotaur is not wearing his fruit of the loom underwear” just amazing, unlike the movies
I was totally prepared to sin her eye color going in, but when I finally found a good shot to reference, the pale blue color actually looked close enough to gray for me to scrap it. Don't know if I necessarily agree with that decision this far out, but that's what I was thinking at the time.
technically the most recent book says that Zeus always knew about percy, as he blasted Percy's kite out of the air, in a clear sky, for no reason other than spite. other than that nitpick, seems good
I personally took Gabe referring to Sally as “Sally Ugliano” as Gabe lying about her last name since Movie Gabe is much more standard “sucky gross guy” than Book Gabe. It’s stupid, sure; realistically the first thing investigators would find out is her registered legal name and Gabe’s word would’ve meant nothing, but it seems like the intent that Gabe just lied about her last name the same way he lied about Percy. Not defending the decision to change it, just stating a possible reason for it.
I remember when i watched the movie for the first time, and during the scene in which Percy and Luke fight towards the end, i noticed Luke didn't have his scar. So i asked myself "where is the scar?" and then Luke got cut across the fave and my friend said "there it is". It was perfect Timing.
14:55 Given Hades in all versions where he's not turned into Satan has him being one of the more chill, and least assholy of the Greek Gods, yeah, 5 sins seems fair, maybe even low by all accounts.
Another inaccurate adaptation: The master bolt is said to be significantly stronger than a hydrogen bomb, even if Persephone used it; that whole palace should at least be damaged
I love how you don't mention skin color, instead picking on the stuff that is changeable, like beards and outfits. It's nice to have actual criticism instead of "THEIR SKIN IS WROJG!!!!!"
@@thescarIetbitch Technically, zeus would have been a more Mediterranean skin tone, more 'bronze' than black like the actor is, but quite frankly it doesnt matter what race the actor is as long as they can do their job, but part of that doing their job would be doing stuff like adjustijg facial hair and outfits to be more accurate, where as you... cant change your skin tone so it doesnt matter."
@@thescarIetbitch ...Wait shit isnt one of them played by a really dark skinned person? I want to say edris ilba but thats because hes the only really dark skinned actor i can think of.
@@memelescream4796 i haven’t seen the movie but hephaestus is played by a black guy named conrad coates. idris elba plays Heimdall in the Thor movies (MCU) so you could be thinking of that aswell, as that’s kind of mythology.
Loved this, especially since there is much more of a focus on the actual "sins" than cinemasins which seems to just use cheap jokes as an excuse to "sin" sometimes. Would love to see you do Sea of Monsters!
I much prefer this style to cinemasins, more informative and along the lines of Lost in Adaptation or CinemaWins, which doesn't make me feel like throwing a hardcover book at someone's head
You raise some interesting ones because even though the Percy Jackson TV show is going to be way more accurate I actually think there will still be some of the changes that you mentioned here. Examples from the latest teaser trailer are Percy not saying donkey legs and having Riptide with him during the Minotaur attack. These are just a couple but there were more in the teaser trailer alone. People have to ready themselves for changes.
also! the ambrosia/nectar made me mad in the 2nd movie! it made NO sense that they were just chucking it like an espresso shot?! that wouldve literally burned them out???
Wow! I remember being a big fan of this movie when I was younger, because I adored the mythology, but I never had a clue the books were so different. Definitely going to read the books now. Thanks for making this, I really love the idea of a series like this. The format makes it easy to keep up with instead of just listing the differences out of chronilogical order. Someone suggested doing this with The Witcher, I second that. Jurrassic Park could also be fun, as the books are very different in terms of plot.
I didn't even realise half the stuff the movies got wrong until watching the new series and I'm honestly so shocked they butchered it this much to begin with. The new series is definitely promising stuff and can't wait for Rick Riordan to finally get his work told accurately and faithfully.
I would love to see you review the Lighting Thief musical, especially since it's deemed as one of the holy adaptions besides the limits of being on stage
That would be a lot of fun. It's a great musical, but it definitely takes some liberties that would be fun to highlight in a more lighthearted way. But that might be a challenge to do since I'd have to work with bootleg footage. I'll file that under "we'll see"
You should do this with that Last Airbender movie by Shyamalan because it's awful oh, and the Netflix Series of Unfortunate Events would be a good one to do too, but positively because that one is a pretty good adaptation
ASoUE wouldn't work, because like you said, it was a good adaptation. I think this is for bad adaptations but I'd love to see Avator. Man, Shamlayan really fell off lmao
@CoolScratcher seriously. And not just damaging a good story, but like how do you manage to mispronounce not one but 3 character names For God's sake it's a good thing he didn't get to do Book 2, or we'd have Azola, Ty Loi, and Tofu. Mai's name would be correct tho and then he even mispronounces "Avatar" and "Agni Kai"
One thing I can disagree with the sin on is the "Sally Ugliano" it's likely either Gabe just didn't correct the last name said by the reporter because he's awful, or he disrespected Sally keeping her last name and only gave his last name.
I think my favourite review of this movie is "No hot biker dilf I f*cking hate it here". Also I was unfortunate enough to see the movie first and I was downright pissed at how much better the book was. Taking liberties with an adaptation is fine, but that's no excuse for disrespecting the source material or making a shit final product. Edit: Also I'm pretty sure mortals aren't allowed to even ride the elevator to the 600th floor, so Sally doubly shouldn't have been there.
As a non book reader, seeing a million hate videos on this adaptation & now watching the Disney+ series… they definitely were stupid for not listening to Rick’s critiques about the script.
You should do the other movies as well i havent met many people who liked the books as much as me and understand just how bad the movies are in comparison. I will never get over them being 17, driving everywhere they need to go and skipping the fight with ares. Which was always my favorite part because the spectacle of a 12 year old kid wounding the GOD OF WAR just seems silly no matter what his powers are lol i love it.
@@mugisama779Bro, I spent two months working on this. I don't know who you think I stole this from, but you're sadly mistaken if you think I didn't make this myself.
@@mugisama779 Nope, that is my voice. Watch my other videos if you don't believe me. At best, I'm trying to channel some of the same energy he does in his videos.
You're literally doing cinemasins job. You're like a good version of them. Pointing out actually inaccuracies. Even if some of them aren't a big deal, your just fulfilling your titles promise and even remove points for cool inclusions. I respect that and appreciate that so much. Definitely subbing.
9:50 as a person who grew up reading percy jackson i understand that the poseidon "cabin" is not at ALL acurrate to the books and it barely looks like you could live in there at all but, i gotta admit, it looks kinda neat.
i will say, the law of gods not seeing their kids did exist but not until the heroes of olympus series which was years later chronologically, same with the introduction to charm speak, which would be the closest thing in the books to what medusa is implied to have in the movie, but she never did and charm speak is exclusively an aphrodite trait passed down to her children(though exceedingly rare which is why it wasn’t introduced until the 2nd series
Really love this type content, I know a lot of book worms would watch something like this, although I suggest you do it for larger more well know series and trilogies before branching out
Cool concept and love to see more, specially with the next Percy Jackson movie. A good idea you could ad is to present drawings and illustrations of how characters and places look like in the books while describing them and maybe in some cases read quotes from the books themselves. That way you can add something new/ a unique touch to your series so it would be a bit different from the cinemasins format just in case someone doesn't start something by calling you a basic copycat or something.
The fact about Annabeth's gray eyes and blond hair alone is enough to know where this would go to. Btw, very nice job bro, i'm impressed about the number of details you could point out, you must be quite a hardcore fan
Percy using an iPod touch to kill Medusa is so dated and absurd that it loops back around to being incredible. I genuinely hope the new TV show does something similar with a modern phone screen or camera because it's actually a pretty clever idea
The fact that some of the sins were even removed. Also, Persephone's dress (when we saw her in The Sword of Hades) was described as one with muted bright, almost washed out colours, not black.
4:20 also as far as I remember, even though she probably has suspicions but she wasn't confirmed that Percy is Poseidon's son so it wouldn't make sense for her to take him aside.
Actually, Grover is supposed to look a little older, since he's 26 but matures slower than humans. He looks like he's been held back a year or two with stubble growing on his chin. And yes, the are versions of the Medusa myth where she and Poseidon were consensually hooking up, though in that version i believe it was on a field of flowers, not in Athena's temple. I believe the version where it was nonconsensual was written by the Romans years later. In the earliest stories, she was born a monster. The hell hounds are also huge in the books, bigger than most people, and definitely bigger than regular dogs or wolves. Also what Hades does to try to force Percy to give him the bolt and the helm is much more frightening then just "using the bolt against Zeus" he stops death.
16:47 missed opportunity to have Luke play god of war a game series where you kill Greek gods given his hatred for the gods seems like the kind of game he would definitely be playing
It’s so funny you pronounce “Thalia” the way that I read her name through the entire series. I always called her Thay-lee-yuh turns out it’s actually pronounced like Talia? Lmfao
I personally dont mind Percy already liking swimming before knowing who his father is, for movie purposes it does well to set up who his father is to new audiences who havent read the books and the scene they use does well to show Percy has always had abilities with water despite not knowing it himself, one adaptation i do not like and despise is the camp in the book the rooms for each half blood are said to be laid out in a U shape but all we get in the movie is some tents in the woods also also i dont like how they changed how quickly percy moves into the Poseidon cabin in the book he spends a night or 2 in the hermes cabin as that is where half bloods who dont know their father go
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Some corrections!
Grover is actually supposed to look slightly older than Percy. I missed this at first because it's only subtly alluded to, but Percy did suspect him of being held back a couple years in school due to his acne and facial hair. Chiron also later reveals that Grover is 28 years old, but looks younger because satyrs age at half the rate of humans, which would make him look around 14.
It's revealed in the third Magnus Chase book, _The Ship of the Dead,_ that Riptide's pronouns are actually she/her. I deeply apologize for misgendering her, and will do better in the future.
Technically, the cabins weren't all built when Camp Half-Blood was founded. According to _Camp Half-Blood Confidential,_ campers originally slept in the Big House. It wasn't until the camp got more crowded that Chiron divided the campers into family groups and had them build cabins. The idea that Poseidon built a cabin specifically for Percy is still inaccurate, but my explanation was mistaken. Also, if we really want to be technical, some of the cabins were destroyed and rebuilt at least once during the camp's lifetime, as alluded to by Zoë and Artemis in _The Titan's Curse._
Medusa actually _is_ implied to have some level of hypnotic power during the fight with her in the book. I should not have sinned that scene.
In this video, I claim that the gift Poseidon gave the Athenians to rival Athena's olive tree was the saltwater spring. That is accurate to how Annabeth tells the story in _The Lightning Thief,_ but in the account of the competition Percy gives in _Percy Jackson's Greek Gods,_ Poseidon's gift for the competition was the horse, with the creation of the saltwater spring being a separate event. I can't seem to find anything to suggest either version of the story is correct or incorrect, so I'm just going to leave this at "I only quoted one version of the story, and failed to acknowledge other equally valid versions."
More of an excuse than a correction, but it has since occurred to me that this movie came out before _The Mark of Athena,_ the first appearance of the Athena Parthenos statue in the Riordanverse canon. So at least from the perspective of the books, it's only an inaccuracy in retrospect, which isn't entirely fair. Of course, had they followed the book and not included the Parthenon scene, they wouldn't have opened themselves up to retroactive inaccuracies like this. And this doesn't solve the issue of them blatantly misrepresenting a real piece of classical artwork, but that's a whole other thing.
My pronunciation of Thalia is different from how Rick Riordan pronounces it. He uses a short A in the middle (Thah-lia), I used a long A (Thay-lia). I believe I first got that pronunciation from the audiobooks, which are not always great about correct pronunciation. In my defense, various online sources do list Thay-lia as a valid alternative pronunciation, but from what I can tell, it's not the one the author intended.
While Persephone's affair with Adonis is not mentioned in the mainline books, Percy does give an account of that story in _Percy Jackson's Greek Gods._ So it did still canonically happen, it just never comes up in Percy's own story.
Persephone does, in fact, have some control over the forces of the Underworld. In _The Sword of Hades,_ she manipulates shadows to transport Nico to New York City, and splits the earth open to drop Nico, Percy and Thalia into her throne room. She is not just a nature goddess.
It's five thrones on either side, not ten. Clearly, I forgot to make my customary sacrifice to Athena before doing the math for that sin.
Artemis's preferred hair color is auburn, not black.
I actually greatly prefer this style over deafult cinemasins, which has too much nonsense and jokes that distract from the criticism. Please do Percy Jackson and the Sea of Monsters next!!
also, Artemis has auburn hair not black! awesome video though very fun watch
@@jenny_therobot You are absolutely right. I must've been using a Wiki for a quick reference and gotten mixed up with her hair color from _Percy Jackson's Greek Gods._
Persephone wants to be with Hades. there are many instances in the books that show this. also, Riptide is a ballpoint pen, that becomes a sword when the cap is removed, not a clickpen.
Hey, hate the movie to a tee, but the Medusa charming people into opening their eyes is true. Not something she does retroactively, but Percy mentions how he feels tempted to open his eyes as if the snakes are calling to him and due to Medusa's voice. Probably a visual way to represent the same idea.
the fact that this video is like half the length of the movie says a lot about the adaptation
For real though
this video is incorrect
the character names and the facts its based on Greek mythology are the only accuracies they should just cut out every time they say their names and let the rest of the movie play
@@rythmicdyno2955 its innacurate to the book
I’m sure they’d do a full movie commentary if RUclips allowed it
Someone once said there's only one accuracy in the entire movie franchise
i can’t believe the Lightning Thief Musical is more accurate than the movie
I'm sorry musical?
@@purpledragon1945 Yeah, there was actually a Lightning Thief musical, it even made it to Broadway.
I actually saw it in Boston during its national tour. It was legitimately really good. It takes its creative liberties, but it's a very faithful adaptation for the new medium.
@@OptimusPhillip fascinating
@@OptimusPhillip I wouldn't say faithful, since the relationship the kids had to their godly parents is different, the campfire song exemplifies this.
the musical was SO good oh my gosh
Hades was never banished, he got the short straw in picking where to rule and was just never really invited to Olympus, he can leave whenever he likes
The only reason he doesn’t have a throne on Olympus is because he goes there so rarely that there was no point in having one, especially seeing as Hades had a full-time job of overseeing the Underworld. He’d have to have a very good reason to leave to begin with
Really? Is that myth hades or percy jackson hades? Because I do believe that percy jackson hades was banished that’s why he was only able to attend to olympian meetings in the winter, percy also said that hades was banished and he felt bad for the guy in the lighting thief
@@merlinrecon7528 I just double checked and he wasn't banished in the original Greek mythology and inPercy Jackson he just never really got the chance because the underworld is a full time job and he was always considered creepy
@@jenniferenglert870 ohhh I see then I guess he was just shunned by his family then??? Because if he’s not, the whole “I build my underwold palaces as close as I can to resemble Olympus except in black” wouldn’t make sense
@@merlinrecon7528 Yeah. The other gods still don't like him very much, but Hades envies them and wants more credit for the work he does. He wishes he could have a throne on Olympus, hence the designing of his palace after it.
Also, for Poseidon coming out of the sea at the beginning of the movie, the fisherman shouldn't even be able to see him because of the mist.
Well, some people can see through the mist, Like Sally Jackson
@@randompersonontheinternet. You're right. But even if the man can see through the mist, he looks about 50-60, so he probably would've seen a lot of stuff like this before. Or he's just like 'Oh my gods! It's Poseidon!'
@myrussianjourney Well, it's not every day you see strange shit and a Greek God materializing out of the water. But you could be right about that
@@randompersonontheinternet. I suppose. But he should be used to it now.
The mist isnt actually referred to in the first movie at all. the second one establishes it as some kind of a limited physical resource used to cover select mythological events. annabeth uses some kind of cologne bottle with mist in it to make it so that tyson has two eyes instead of one. which is even worse
You forgot to mention that Hades was angry over being accused of wanting to raise an army of the dead, as it's mentioned over the series that the Underworld is rather crowded BECAUSE there's too many dead souls coming into the Underworld
Throughout the series, Percy has never actually managed to beat Luke. Thalia was the only demigod character in the series to have actually defeated Luke in battle. But in every battle Percy had against Luke, he was more or less on the losing end
Not true. Only every serious battle. The first fight percy had against Luke, before he got riptide proper, he did manage to disarm Luke and hold him at swordpoint, but it was with a water boost, and it was in a training fight.
And the only reason Thalia beat Luke was because he was tired and weakened from holding up the sky.
@@mrbyrd5072 Considering that Thalia still commented to Luke that he never could beat her, I assume that she was always stronger
@@Pridam Yeah as a daughter of Zeus I think it was stated that she was born as a natural fighter unlike luke who actually had to learn it
@@catalyst9588 All Luke's Curse of Achilles did for him was not make him die in their battle
God i hate to imagine what would they have done too Nico and Jason if they continued the films
They probably would’ve made Jason into some asshole jock character. And remove Nico’s character development an keep him as a starry eyed Percy stan (which he was at first)
They’d give Nico a girlfriend 😢
@@wiselioness322YES! They SO would! 😟 I-I really can’t wait for the new show!
@@Justanotherqueer7476new show?
@@Erisrose-moonthat’s painful 😢
Now that you mention it, unless I'm mistaken there is no blue food in either movie. This is truly the biggest sin of them all.
In an interview, the actors stated they didn't know what was the connection between blue food and Percy Jackson
@@laytonjr6601 that is simply criminal
I almost cried when I don’t see any blue beverages in this movie. I feel like my childhood has been robbed somehow.
NO I FORGOT ABOUT THIS
1000 sins
What's ironic about Hades, is that given that he's charged with ruling over the most miserable place in existence, and has the most motivation to be a villain,he's actually one of the most moral and honorable gods in mythology. Loves his wife, has a code of honor, and can be moved to charity with a simple love story. Compared to other gods like Hera who have everything, but still will lie, plot, cheat and murder for her own selfish gain.
Hades has a complicated relationship with his siblings as he's been charged with ruling over all of the souls in a world of people who are constantly dying, but it's completely understandable. He still doesn't hate them for it.
Side note that the movie missed that I loved in the book. The main reason the underworld was depressing is that the dead got exactly what they deserved, but for most of humanity, that was wandering aimlessly in a dreary field devoid of pleasure or pain, as they were content in life to accomplish nothing.
I agree with most of the points about Hera, except the cheating part. Most of her plotting and murdering was as revenge for Zeus cheating on her and siring demigod/godly children, because she’s the goddess of marriage and family. I’d agree with it way more if that was said about someone like Aphrodite, who does all of the above and can be vastly more petty than Hera. Just ask Psyche
@@thinkingsoutherner9911 Seeing as both Hera and Athena ensured the downfal of Troy and by extension the butchery and enslavement of its entire population simply because Aphrodite (the goddess of beauty amongst other things) beat them in a beauty contest I'd reconsider who's the most petty.
As for Psche, she kinda had it coming tbh. As a princess she had the authority to forbid people to worship her. She didn't; causing Aphrodite's temples to fall into ruin because people started to worship Psycke instead. To make matters worse she then betrayed Eros trust and injured him to boot, leading to a now properly pissed-off Aphrodite comforting and tending to the burns of her distraught son. Another offence might simply be their marriage itself as they never got her blessing and married in secret; especially bad considering Aphrodite is the leader of the gods of marriage alongside Hera (and Zeus I think).
@@SimplymeSVEN18 First of all, where in my reply did I condone Hera and Athena’s actions during the Trojan War? I never denied that Hera was petty and vindictive, just that she could be comparatively less petty at times than someone like Aphrodite, and that she abhorred infidelity due to her deific role.
Second of all, whether or not you think Psyche deserved what Aphrodite did to her, you can’t deny that it was extremely petty regardless. Even Zeus recognized that during her third task and sent an eagle down to help her without forcing herself on her, and Eros went to save her no questions asked when she messed up the fourth trial against Aphrodite’s wishes
@@thinkingsoutherner9911 Probably the same place where I said you did. As for Hera being less vindictive...very much disagree. Most of Zeus's conquests were raped or deceived by him and their children were innocent entirely. Blaming the victim is about as petty as you can get imo. And again, the innocent children...
So was Hera for making Leto suffer through 9 days of Labour. By all but kidnapping her own daughter to ensure Leto wouldn't give birth no less.
@@SimplymeSVEN18 Read my first reply again. I said that most of her plotting and murdering was vengeance against Zeus (which when carried out against his victims is unjustifiable). Most does not mean all. Her actions in the Trojan War are an exception to that, as it was out of sheer pettiness, just like pretty much everything else. So stop putting words in my mouth to try and put me down when we both agree that both Hera and Aphrodite are extremely petty and vindictive
As someone who doesn’t read books I feel very informed and a little sad with how much they took out of the movies. Th original adventure sound far more interesting, the movie now feels rushed and cut in half.
Yeah, I personally think the book is much better than the movie.
@@Gestrid We all factually think the books are better
I can only name 2 stories where I preferred the movie over the book.
@@GreySeashell-j3m I don’t read so usually I prefer the movies, but this video makes me think they could’ve done better for the movies
The truth is that the Percy Jackson books doesn’t really fit movies imo because it’s very episodic where the characters are always moving place to place, bit by bit to achieve their role, each time with a different mythological encounter, and that makes me think it would make an AWESOME show. Like an ATLA style animated show would be absolutely PEAK FICTION
"In this video, I use the word 'sin' to mean any difference between the book and movie. This is purely stylistic. Inaccurate does not mean bad."
*Though in this movie's case, it does*
Kinda? There's so little of the book in the movie it can be appreciated in its own right with a new name like say, Penelope Johnston. Even with this in mind, it's only kinda good at best.
@@jeffreygao3956Peter Johnson
wrong, percy killing medusa with a ipod is the superior version and i will doe on this hill.
@tinygrove7623 I love the idea, but it still clashes with the rules of the world, because any sort of technology/electronics would likely draw monsters to them.
@@NachoCheeseDorito-Kun i think that’s also wrong, i think they can’t use phones because their voice attracts monsters and gets carried through the air waves but a ipod just plays music, so they should be able to use it i think, i could be wrong tho.
This is something of a test run for an idea I've had for a while now: Adaptation Sins. Like CinemaSins, but for comparing adaptations to their source material instead of tongue-in-cheek film criticism. Definitely let me know what you think of it! Depending on how this goes, and how much material I can find, this may become the pilot to a full series.
Obviously commenting before the video itself is premiered but, can I make a pre-suggestion, to make it closer to CinemaWins instead of Sins. Pointing out differences per adaptation is a good idea though. Maybe also not the negative changes but also the good ones, like maybe a scene was remove for better pacing.
Plus instead of maybe just going for single bits and moving to another, maybe a short explanation on how the change affected the movie or the scene, if possible. Doesn't have to be every difference, just the once that are material.
@@McJethroPovTee this!!! i gotta say as a scriptwriter these adaptation things are interesting bnut i do wanna see credit both ways, some things have to be changed for pacing, understanding, audience shifts, and it'd be cool to appreciate those reasons and their impact aswell as the times where it has been a problem
you are the best, I love this vid.
YOU ARE A W E S O M E
Fair points. I did knock a sin off for Grover's crutches for pretty much that exact reason. Maybe I'll be more generous with things like that going forward. Or maybe Adaptation Wins can become a thing someday.
@@OptimusPhillip i love this vid it is the best thing ive ever seen
THANK YOUUU
I actually don't mind the "x character was blond in the books" differences because the appearance of characters rarelly influence plot... it's just that everything else was so wrong it's annowing they didn't even bother to get that right
i think Annabeth being blonde was meant to have more significance than just an aspect of appearance because it was meant to be like, people underestimate Annabeth because they think blonde girls are stupid, that sort of thing
The children of Athena having blonde hair and grey eyes was a calling card for them, every child has those traits because Athena had blonde hair and grey eyes in the books, so there was a reason for the blonde hair.
this is actually not true in annabeths case. her being blonde actually caused octavian to let his guard down when she disobeyed his order of putting down the knife and instead throwing it into the water to alert percy. its also like one of her main physical traits, sort of how one of percy's main physical traits was the sea-green eyes he had. while percy's eyes dont match exactly with the books, its close enough. annabeth's hair in the movies on the other hand looks nothing like the blonde color she is always described as having
Yeah, appearance changes don't bother me that much in the grand scheme of things. They're largely in the "only called sins for the sake of the format" category.
What bothered me was that they aged them up because it messed up the whole plot line
They made Sally so tame in the movie and I hate it, Movie Sally definitely would not pick up a shotgun in the battle of Manhattan.
Still love how Sally just whips out a shotgun to fight divine beings
Fun fact: here in Brazil there is this really famous singer called Zé Ramalho, and he looks exactly like this movie Hades, in the Portuguese dub of this movies Grover outright screams to him to “Stay in the Zé Ramalho vibe” (in Portuguese he says “Fica na pegada do Zé Ramalho”), and is genuinely the only joke with him that made me laugh in the two movies
Another fun fact: the guy who does Grover’s voice in the dub version(Wendel Bezerra) also dubs Goku and SpongeBob(he’s so talented you don’t even recognize the difference unless you pay attention)
So thanks to the dub version for making this movie 0000,01% better
Whenever I am in a position to rewatch these movies, I watch the Japanese dub. Percy is voiced by Mamoru Miyano (known for voicing Kira from Death Note, Ling Yao from FMAB, Death the Kid from soul eater, etc). It's a perfect fit and makes them 100% more enjoyable (100% more than .000001% being .000002% lol)
17:02 I actually have a theory that this was a crappy attempt at foreshadowing. Basically, the idea was that, since monsters are attracted to Wi-Fi signals, this was supposed to be Luke setting up a beacon for where camp is. Unfortunately, it’s only able to be taken as foreshadowing if you know that, and since it wasn’t explained in the movie, you’d have had to have read the book, and therefore KNOW THE TWIST, to catch the foreshadowing. It doesn’t make the movie better, and in fact, if I’m right, that makes the movie even worse.
36:04 BANISHED? *_BANISHED?_* THIS IS BEYOND INANE! The three brothers cast lots to determine who ruled what. Zeus got the sky, Poseidon got water, and Hades got the underworld. In the Camp Half-Blood Series in particular, Zeus even had to convince Hades to take the underworld as his domain, as stated in Percy Jackson’s Greek Gods.
I agree. A good movie should stand on its own. If you had to have read the source material to understand something bc it's not clear or left unexplained then it should've been chopped from the movie.
the one thing they kept from the books lol
36:20 This movie made the SAME BLOODY MISTAKE that Disney's Hercules made, by turning Hades into an outright villain
But at least in Disney’s he was entertaining, not directly made to be the devil, and wasn’t in a story made to be accurate. What’s even worse is that in the books they subvert the expectations that Hades is the villain.
I blame Disney's Hercules for a lot of the inaccuracies in this movie. Think about some of the biggest inaccuracies and then look to Disney's Hercules:
-not understanding the difference between Hades and the pop culture version of Satan and the pure vilification of Hades (let's be real, there is no understanding of either among most people)
-the Hydra scene is an insert from Disney's Hercules
-use of Christian termonology and visuals (Hell being the underworld/Hercules praying)
Point is, a lot of paralells can be drawn. And now we just need to hope that the same company gets it right? To be fair given who is involved with the Disney+ series I do believe it will be good. It is ironic that we need to trust the studio that created this mess in the first place to fix it though.
Disney actually owned all the riordanverse books, before fox bought the rights. Fox was then bought by Disney.
@@audiobooksforfree7857 My point was a paralell analysis alongside Disney's Hercules, which put a lot of incorrect versions of these stories in public conscience. Disney+ Percey Jackson (which I believe will be good seeing the people involved) is a weird coincidence. Maybe Disney is just giving Rick a chance to clean up their mess, I hope it works out.
tbf sades (satan hades) was done pretty entertainingly in hercules
@@sholamakinde430 I should mention, my religion is pretty adjacent to Greek and Roman gods. So I have perspective on this. Imagine if Christianity went extinct and was only ever talked about as "of course those are just myths" as a small community was bringing it back (flip the script), but then a film like Dogma was released and was a smash hit (to be clear, Dogma is funny BECAUSE it saturises something we see every day. I'm just using it as a thought experiment). How do you think that small group of remaining Christians would react? That's how I feel about Disney's Hercules and Fox's Percey Jackson movies.
I would argue that the depiction of the Underworld in Disney's Hercules seems more accurate than the one in the Percy Jackson movie. At least that one didn't look like the fire and brimstone type of Hell, but more like a vast area that could have both the unpleasant parts as well as the rewarding parts of the afterlife (even if they weren't shown). Also, I wouldn't blame the movie, so much as this was probably a perception many people had that didn't know the mythology. It certainly didn't help though.
I am SO HERE for the Hades, Hades/Persephone defense. I’m so sick of all media deciding he must be equitable to Satan and just making him the villain in every story.
The weirdest thing was how this movie changed the whole message of "the gods are awful and neglectful parents and need to do better" to "they are very loving, actually, they just can't be there" when really they just don't care as much
This is what I thought CinemaSins would be like before I started watching them in 2012-2013. There was a period where I enjoyed their content, but as the RUclips algorithm changed, they began to prioritize lengthy videos over legitimate points.
This is good stuff. Although I haven't read the Lightning Thief since middle school!
Percy’s mother is still called Jackson, she’s listed as such in the end credits.
The newsreader clearly just assumed that she’d changed her name when she married Gabe, just like she assumed that Percy was Gabe’s biological son.
29:26 This single handedly was the most infuriating part of the film imo (along with Persephone being in the underworld during summer 😒), it’s like they left it in the taunt us. As Dominic Noble said “Guys, go back, you forgot to meet Ares!”
Amazing work by the way!
Apparently there was a plan for Ares to appear in that sequence. They even shot scenes with him, judging by set photos and trailer footage. But they cut him out of the movie, probably because his role was so diminished anyway.
@@OptimusPhillip man wha Ares was the 2nd most important god to the plot of the first book. WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS??
In the first scene: Poseidon:"Omnipetence has blinded you,brother." There's no way he's that even in tellings where he's as strong as the rest of the Olympians,there's beings that get the better of him,such as the storm giant/ father of monsters,the dream/sleep god,night goddess,god of lust/love controls him, and the Three Fates controls him.
It's a cool concept, have you considered doing this to other book adaptations if this is received well? I can imagine you having a field day with Netflix The Witcher compared to the source material.
I'm definitely considering it. Admittedly, I'm not much of a reader, but I could always use this as a motivator to become one.
@OptimusPhillip I can see something like this working out for your channel. Best of luck and i look forward to watching your future content.
@@OptimusPhillipplease do the second movie! I despise both for inaccuracy so this video is amazing cause you point out pretty much everything❤
@@OptimusPhillip we all gotta start somewhere
@@OptimusPhillipdo one season per video
“5 sins for turning Hades into Satan” MAKE IT TEN. I have only watched the the movie adaptation of SoM because my teacher put it on despite various complaints from classmates (this is before I read the PJ books), so I was PISSED when I saw that scene here.
I didn’t understand why people hated the movies when I watched SoM with zero context, book or movie, but I do now. If it were its own thing, it’d have been fine. As an adaptation? It’s shit. Actually horrific.
OptimusPhillip is being generous kinda.
Honestly, the fact that there was no mention of blue food should be worth 100 adaptation sins
"Every inaccuracy in Percy Jackson* *the whole movie plays*
I love how this is extra parody of CinemaSins cuz their infamous line for adaptations is “the books don’t fucking matter” haha. Great video!
Although House of Hades hadn't been written at the time, it's still funny to me how changing Riptide from a capped pen to a click pen would have screwed them up really far down the line if they kept going.
Also "Inaccurate does not mean bad" made me wheeze laugh for a solid minute. The only changes that can really be considered acceptable are very minor things, especially if it's for practicality reasons (Like how the new show Percy will be blond, I think it's fine to sacrifice that minor detail in exchange for the best actor possible)
I am fully on board the theory that Rick made Riptide able to write BECAUSE in the movies they made her a click pen and he just wanted to spite the bad writing.
Also, if Riptide was a click pen HOW exactly is she supposed to go back to pen form from sword? Is there another click thing on her counter-weight? And if that’s the case, that means the clicker switches spots because the clicker is in the same side Riptide’s sword point comes out of. Also, imagine you’re a pen clicker and you don’t get your thumb out of the way fast enough. Like, whoopsies, no more finger because I just accidentally SLICED it off!
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Maybe you just gently boop the point of the sword lol. Like, not outright STAB just a gentle little poke and the sword somehow understands the difference in intention.
Yeah, I'll freely admit that the "inaccurate does not mean bad" disclaimer was mostly to make the format portable to other adaptations.
my thing with this movie was that if they'd rebranded it as a completely different franchise (some generic 2000's fantastical adventure piece with young adult demigods, with slightly different characters and such to avoid all out plagiarism) it probably could have passed for a decent movie. the problem was that it was SUPPOSED to be an on-screen adaptation for a beloved--mostly kids--series of books; so the inaccuracies are inexcusable (within reason). imo its one of the biggest reasons the movies failed.
Your reading of the Medusa Anabeth scene was odd. I always took her “You will open your eyes” line more as a you can’t keep your eyes closed forever than implying she could magically persuade with her words.
I feel pretty neutral about mrs. Dodds being changed to an English teacher, because it helps set up his dyslexia and powers.
Also foreshadows her being a Fury since the quote on the board literally includes the word “fury”
What I find hilarious is the fact that Hades is the only one that held his end of the deal with not having mortal children, as Bianca and Nico were born in the 1930s, before the prophecy about a child of the Big Three came to fruition. He plainly shoved them into the casino to protect them from Zeus iirc.
I'd love to see more of this! You blended pointing out the inaccuracies with giving back points for the little nods they did right and I like that. Another thing I wanted to toss in was how Grover freaked over the rat in aunty em's, but he's a satyr, and loves all nature creatures and wouldn't freak out over that. I'm curious, do you plan on continuing with Sea of Monsters next?
I've just noticed one more thing in the Parthenon-scene:
Annabeth uses a crossbow with arrows. Normal arrows cannot hurt monsters, so she surely only has arrows made by celestial bronze, since she does not intend to hurt mortals so she wouldn't have normal ones. She did not know those people were the hydra, why on earth would she shoot on percieved mortals with celestial bronze arrows, knowing that those cannot hurt mortals und tranquilizer darts only work when they pierce the skin which, if i remember correctly, wouldn't work with celestial bronze on mortals.
Oh and while we're at it, why does she have tranquilizers?
She’s crazy prepared!
I like the implication that Luke was the only one in his cabin. like where are all the other kids? Do they each just have their own cabin? WHERE ARE THEY
maybe he had his own since i this movie he’s said to be the “camp leader” 😒
it’s supposed to be so crowded that kids sleep on floors
16 minutes in and this is SO cathartic. I'm going to rewatch the teaser trailers for the tv adaptation after this as a palate cleanser. I would also LOVE to see your take on the Sea of Monsters as well!!!
I was looking forward to this film as Maria Olsen (who plays Mrs Dodds) is a longtime good friend of mine. She'd gone to shoot the film, only telling me it was a Chris Columbus project.
A few days later at an AMC was the li'l "coming next year" teaser.
I asked and got confirmation this was on what she was working.
The first three books were in a box set so I acquired them. Halfway through the first book I quickly obtained the rest of the series. I also contacted Maria to clarify my suspicion she was playing Mrs Dodds. She confirmed, asking how I'd possibly know that. I told her I was reading the book series, and it was obvious that that would be the role for which she would be cast. 😉
On the more detailed trailer came out, focusing on Maria in the museum, I was thrilled that they clearly would be following the books.
I went to see it its opening day, and understandably was horrified at how off the source material they went after Maria's exit, let alone during her Furie scene, and her character not returning in multiple forms on the bus, etc. 😠
Now we need one of these for the atrociously horrible "adaptation" that was Artemis Fowl (which was so bad that Disney+ literally completely removed it, meaning the only way to watch it now is via piracy).
It was fowl?
I knew it was a bust when the trailers showed artemis surfing. That little shit was super uncoordinated and had two left feet. Boy was super pale and had delicate pianoist hands, he had no physical prowess at all.
Lord, please
Plus, having a black man be a manservant to a white hero is cringeworthy at best. Mr. Butler is Eurasian, not Black!
Plus, Butler shouldn't be black. I'm so...uncomfortable with the idea of a hero with a black manservant. Heck, Butler reveals his birth name a little too early.
I don’t why but the sudden line of, “Five sins for turning Hades into Satan.” caught me so off guard.
I've never read the books though I've been intrigued. I now completely understand the hatred for the Fandom has for them. Just, wow. Thank you for this
Now you have to do the Sea Of Monsters movie.
It's not a choice, it's a responsibility.
watching this after the show came out shows how accurate the show is
As a test run for this idea, this was pretty entertaining and accurate. Percy Jackson was the first book series I ever read in my entirety, even before books like Harry Potter so it was nice to see another video discussing all the blatant mistakes in this movie compared to the books.
I also think this was a pretty good time to test this idea given the recent renewed string of book IPs and their adaptations. The episodic adaptation of Percy Jackson comes up this December with a, fairly, more accurate adaptation of the book so you can check that out with this idea. Plus, there are rumors about JK Rowling creating a new TV adaptation for the Harry Potter books, to flesh out more stuff the movies skipped over, so if they are true, you could have some fun with that.
I hope to see you continue this, especially with the Witcher.
This is so well done! I also love how you're not shy to reward the film for especially good bits of adaptation, plus this has really brought back some nostalgia for the Percy Jackson books...
38:15 It should also be noted that Hestia, Hephaestus, and Prometheus are all more suited for controlling fire for differing reasons.
I will give the movie this: it is pretty nice to give Percy (and his friends by extension) Perseus’s arsenal (sword, shield, and head of Medusa).
"Every Inaccuracy In Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief"
The entire movie.
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26:04 The books were not immune from making mistakes about US landmarks either. During the actual stop in St. Louis, Percy supposedly dropped straight down from the arch into the Mississippi River. Only one problem: the area directly below the Arch is dry land, so Percy should have been a pancake. (The TV series changed it to have the water grab Percy midair and drag him to the river.)
i feel like annabeth’s gray eyes being replaced with bright blue eyes was a bad decision too. medusa noticed her eyes which is how she knew she was athena’s daughter (or at least i think that’s how). medusa also kept complimenting annabeth’s eyes. i think it also adds to her serious personality, because her intense gray eyes made people a little intimidated when they first met her. her eye color is something that she shares with her mom, and i kinda wish she still had them in the movie.
She'd be a stereotypical California girl except the eyes ruined the image.
That's more or less Seaweed Brain's quote.
“Also, Annabeth is blonde!” I’m a bit surprised that he didn’t point out that she also is supposed to have stormy gray eyes at the same time, but also the “scene does not contain blue food” and “the Minotaur is not wearing his fruit of the loom underwear” just amazing, unlike the movies
I was totally prepared to sin her eye color going in, but when I finally found a good shot to reference, the pale blue color actually looked close enough to gray for me to scrap it. Don't know if I necessarily agree with that decision this far out, but that's what I was thinking at the time.
technically the most recent book says that Zeus always knew about percy, as he blasted Percy's kite out of the air, in a clear sky, for no reason other than spite. other than that nitpick, seems good
Yeah, even before that, I had a hunch that Zeus knew more than he was supposed to. My issue was more that there was no attempt to even feign secrecy.
I personally took Gabe referring to Sally as “Sally Ugliano” as Gabe lying about her last name since Movie Gabe is much more standard “sucky gross guy” than Book Gabe. It’s stupid, sure; realistically the first thing investigators would find out is her registered legal name and Gabe’s word would’ve meant nothing, but it seems like the intent that Gabe just lied about her last name the same way he lied about Percy. Not defending the decision to change it, just stating a possible reason for it.
I remember when i watched the movie for the first time, and during the scene in which Percy and Luke fight towards the end, i noticed Luke didn't have his scar. So i asked myself "where is the scar?" and then Luke got cut across the fave and my friend said "there it is".
It was perfect Timing.
14:55 Given Hades in all versions where he's not turned into Satan has him being one of the more chill, and least assholy of the Greek Gods, yeah, 5 sins seems fair, maybe even low by all accounts.
Another inaccurate adaptation: The master bolt is said to be significantly stronger than a hydrogen bomb, even if Persephone used it; that whole palace should at least be damaged
Super durable Underworld palace?
Watching this after seeing the trailers for the new PJ show and damn it makes me more excited for the show
I love how you don't mention skin color, instead picking on the stuff that is changeable, like beards and outfits. It's nice to have actual criticism instead of "THEIR SKIN IS WROJG!!!!!"
wait who’s skin was wrong here
@@thescarIetbitch Technically, zeus would have been a more Mediterranean skin tone, more 'bronze' than black like the actor is, but quite frankly it doesnt matter what race the actor is as long as they can do their job, but part of that doing their job would be doing stuff like adjustijg facial hair and outfits to be more accurate, where as you... cant change your skin tone so it doesnt matter."
@@memelescream4796 do you mean more bronze than white? because zeus is played by sean bean.
@@thescarIetbitch ...Wait shit isnt one of them played by a really dark skinned person? I want to say edris ilba but thats because hes the only really dark skinned actor i can think of.
@@memelescream4796 i haven’t seen the movie but hephaestus is played by a black guy named conrad coates. idris elba plays Heimdall in the Thor movies (MCU) so you could be thinking of that aswell, as that’s kind of mythology.
Loved this, especially since there is much more of a focus on the actual "sins" than cinemasins which seems to just use cheap jokes as an excuse to "sin" sometimes.
Would love to see you do Sea of Monsters!
I much prefer this style to cinemasins, more informative and along the lines of Lost in Adaptation or CinemaWins, which doesn't make me feel like throwing a hardcover book at someone's head
Percy is pretty foolish considering Disney's Hercules understood to not:"Would you forget The head slicing thing?!!"
You raise some interesting ones because even though the Percy Jackson TV show is going to be way more accurate I actually think there will still be some of the changes that you mentioned here. Examples from the latest teaser trailer are Percy not saying donkey legs and having Riptide with him during the Minotaur attack. These are just a couple but there were more in the teaser trailer alone. People have to ready themselves for changes.
honestly this just makes me look forward to the series even more! hopefully they get it right this time!
also! the ambrosia/nectar made me mad in the 2nd movie! it made NO sense that they were just chucking it like an espresso shot?! that wouldve literally burned them out???
44:08 "The only thanks Percy got from Zeus was not getting smited."
That made me laugh. XD
It legit sounds like Zeus.
One thing you forgot about is that the thrones are much bigger. In the last book, it’s stated that Percy needs help to climb into Poseidon’s throne.
Wow!
I remember being a big fan of this movie when I was younger, because I adored the mythology, but I never had a clue the books were so different. Definitely going to read the books now.
Thanks for making this, I really love the idea of a series like this. The format makes it easy to keep up with instead of just listing the differences out of chronilogical order. Someone suggested doing this with The Witcher, I second that. Jurrassic Park could also be fun, as the books are very different in terms of plot.
"inaccuracy doesn't mean bad" in this case, IT DOES
“Also ANNABETH IS BLONDE” can’t wait to see his reaction to annabeth now
I didn't even realise half the stuff the movies got wrong until watching the new series and I'm honestly so shocked they butchered it this much to begin with. The new series is definitely promising stuff and can't wait for Rick Riordan to finally get his work told accurately and faithfully.
I love how passionate you are in some parts of the video with the inaccuracy of the movie! Great video and great experience!
I would love to see you review the Lighting Thief musical, especially since it's deemed as one of the holy adaptions besides the limits of being on stage
That would be a lot of fun. It's a great musical, but it definitely takes some liberties that would be fun to highlight in a more lighthearted way. But that might be a challenge to do since I'd have to work with bootleg footage.
I'll file that under "we'll see"
You should do this with that Last Airbender movie by Shyamalan because it's awful
oh, and the Netflix Series of Unfortunate Events would be a good one to do too, but positively because that one is a pretty good adaptation
ASoUE wouldn't work, because like you said, it was a good adaptation. I think this is for bad adaptations
but I'd love to see Avator. Man, Shamlayan really fell off lmao
@CoolScratcher seriously. And not just damaging a good story, but like how do you manage to mispronounce not one but 3 character names
For God's sake it's a good thing he didn't get to do Book 2, or we'd have Azola, Ty Loi, and Tofu. Mai's name would be correct tho
and then he even mispronounces "Avatar" and "Agni Kai"
One thing I can disagree with the sin on is the "Sally Ugliano" it's likely either Gabe just didn't correct the last name said by the reporter because he's awful, or he disrespected Sally keeping her last name and only gave his last name.
I think my favourite review of this movie is "No hot biker dilf I f*cking hate it here".
Also I was unfortunate enough to see the movie first and I was downright pissed at how much better the book was. Taking liberties with an adaptation is fine, but that's no excuse for disrespecting the source material or making a shit final product.
Edit: Also I'm pretty sure mortals aren't allowed to even ride the elevator to the 600th floor, so Sally doubly shouldn't have been there.
The fact that there were only 3 moments in the movie where you were like "yeah, this was actually accurate" is crazy lol
I really enjoyed the level of detail in this breakdown of the book and movie. I would enjoy seeing more from you. 😊
As a non book reader, seeing a million hate videos on this adaptation & now watching the Disney+ series… they definitely were stupid for not listening to Rick’s critiques about the script.
You should do the other movies as well i havent met many people who liked the books as much as me and understand just how bad the movies are in comparison. I will never get over them being 17, driving everywhere they need to go and skipping the fight with ares. Which was always my favorite part because the spectacle of a 12 year old kid wounding the GOD OF WAR just seems silly no matter what his powers are lol i love it.
he can't.. this isn't his video . he just spoke it and re-uploaded it from another channel
@@mugisama779Bro, I spent two months working on this. I don't know who you think I stole this from, but you're sadly mistaken if you think I didn't make this myself.
@@OptimusPhillip your voice sounds too similar to his.. are you using ai or something?
@@mugisama779 Nope, that is my voice. Watch my other videos if you don't believe me. At best, I'm trying to channel some of the same energy he does in his videos.
@@OptimusPhillip damn.. my bad. keep grinding
You're literally doing cinemasins job. You're like a good version of them.
Pointing out actually inaccuracies. Even if some of them aren't a big deal, your just fulfilling your titles promise and even remove points for cool inclusions. I respect that and appreciate that so much.
Definitely subbing.
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Movies like picturing Hades as a bad guy just because he’s the God of death. Poor guy!
I freaking LOVE this!! Please do this for more books!!!
9:50 as a person who grew up reading percy jackson i understand that the poseidon "cabin" is not at ALL acurrate to the books and it barely looks like you could live in there at all but, i gotta admit, it looks kinda neat.
i will say, the law of gods not seeing their kids did exist but not until the heroes of olympus series which was years later chronologically, same with the introduction to charm speak, which would be the closest thing in the books to what medusa is implied to have in the movie, but she never did and charm speak is exclusively an aphrodite trait passed down to her children(though exceedingly rare which is why it wasn’t introduced until the 2nd series
Really love this type content, I know a lot of book worms would watch something like this, although I suggest you do it for larger more well know series and trilogies before branching out
Cool concept and love to see more, specially with the next Percy Jackson movie.
A good idea you could ad is to present drawings and illustrations of how characters and places look like in the books while describing them and maybe in some cases read quotes from the books themselves. That way you can add something new/ a unique touch to your series so it would be a bit different from the cinemasins format just in case someone doesn't start something by calling you a basic copycat or something.
The fact about Annabeth's gray eyes and blond hair alone is enough to know where this would go to. Btw, very nice job bro, i'm impressed about the number of details you could point out, you must be quite a hardcore fan
Percy using an iPod touch to kill Medusa is so dated and absurd that it loops back around to being incredible. I genuinely hope the new TV show does something similar with a modern phone screen or camera because it's actually a pretty clever idea
2:05 I'm not actually sure how they fucked that one up, the first chapter of the book is titled "I Accidentally Vaporize My Pre-Algebra Teacher"
As soon as you mentioned Poseidon's horrid Hawaiian shirts you got a thumbs up.
The fact that some of the sins were even removed. Also, Persephone's dress (when we saw her in The Sword of Hades) was described as one with muted bright, almost washed out colours, not black.
4:20 also as far as I remember, even though she probably has suspicions but she wasn't confirmed that Percy is Poseidon's son so it wouldn't make sense for her to take him aside.
Comparing this to the new series, so far it’s pretty spot on
Actually, Grover is supposed to look a little older, since he's 26 but matures slower than humans. He looks like he's been held back a year or two with stubble growing on his chin. And yes, the are versions of the Medusa myth where she and Poseidon were consensually hooking up, though in that version i believe it was on a field of flowers, not in Athena's temple. I believe the version where it was nonconsensual was written by the Romans years later. In the earliest stories, she was born a monster.
The hell hounds are also huge in the books, bigger than most people, and definitely bigger than regular dogs or wolves.
Also what Hades does to try to force Percy to give him the bolt and the helm is much more frightening then just "using the bolt against Zeus" he stops death.
16:47 missed opportunity to have Luke play god of war a game series where you kill Greek gods given his hatred for the gods seems like the kind of game he would definitely be playing
That would've be hilarious lol
Grover would not have been afraid of mice. He loves all animals as he is a satyr
im surprised no one has done this yet, i cant wait for more
It’s so funny you pronounce “Thalia” the way that I read her name through the entire series. I always called her Thay-lee-yuh turns out it’s actually pronounced like Talia? Lmfao
I personally dont mind Percy already liking swimming before knowing who his father is, for movie purposes it does well to set up who his father is to new audiences who havent read the books and the scene they use does well to show Percy has always had abilities with water despite not knowing it himself, one adaptation i do not like and despise is the camp in the book the rooms for each half blood are said to be laid out in a U shape but all we get in the movie is some tents in the woods also also i dont like how they changed how quickly percy moves into the Poseidon cabin in the book he spends a night or 2 in the hermes cabin as that is where half bloods who dont know their father go
I would love to see you do this with Sea of Monsters and the Lightning Thief musical
This was kind of fun. We will watch your career with great interest.