Englishman here, loving your videos ( some hard truths going on! ), so much information delivered so well, hope the audience numbers grow exponentially for this channel
@@dakotahmcguire That's right. Funny you should spot that. I consider myself to have had two hometowns, one of which is Webster, MA, founded by an immigrant Englishman and industrial spy called Samuel Slater. As he didn't want the town named after him (but instead his political idol Sen. Webster), likewise I don't want to use my real face as my avatar.
Oh definitely. If you’re referring to the issues around Home Rule, I believe the British government was so preoccupied around a Unionist uprising and a Nationalist backlash that they only took a serious interest in the prospect of a European war about two days before Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia.
Then again, the number of Irish killed was much, MUCH more than the Rising, War of Independence, and the inevitable Civil War combined (50,000 Irish soldiers killed and 100,000 wounded, captured, or shellshocked). Even the Irish veterans of the Great War that joined the Free State Forces during the Civil War said that the it was not even nearly as bad as the horrors they witnessed in the trenches. Sorry for the history ramble, just wanted share more info.
@@DraftTheHippies that's fine, given how (at the time) Ireland was an integral part of the United Kingdom, it seems like the contribution of Irish troops gets overlooked, or at least mixed in with the official casualties of British casualties of WW1. The context is useful, and eye opening, thanks
hey! always go outta my way to support irish creators & i love what youre doing. when abroad it is a bit of a rude awakening being confronted with foreigners who simultaneously know nothing about ireland but *think* they do, so thank you for educating ppl who didnt have to suffer thru a leaving cert of it! 😂
The story of Ireland was a great documentary, thanks for the suggestion! I look forward to your eventual video on the troubles! Keep up the great work and cheers from Colorado
The Conquest of Ireland arguably wasn’t fully completed until the Act of Union in 1800 when the Kingdom of Ireland (after centuries of constitutional and regime changes) was forcibly merged into the British state (though our civil service and courts remained separate, and we retained our legislative representatives). Those representatives forced to sit in London instead of Dublin, but went back to Ireland in 1919 and declared independence in a reconstituted Irish Parliament (copying the Hungarian walkout of the Austrian parliament in the 1860s). European history is very complicated as you can imagine !
Indeed, but I don't think (re?)unification will happen until at least 2040. Nationalists don't have enough support in Northern Ireland, Unionist parties are still polling well collectively despite their splits and Sinn Fein's rise in the Republic will likely alienate those more neutral/moderate in Northern Ireland on this issue. I can't see either London or Dublin realistically supporting a referendum until its clear both areas will choose unification.
@@cobbler9113 Actually I'd quite disagree with this- I don't think it will be until a few more GEs, but Brexit has made it that the largest voting block in the north- the neutral ones who didn't mind staying w UK- have experienced firsthand how little the Uk cares after not counting their wishes around something like Brexit that impacts everyone so severely esp in the north. so the massive block of northeners who didnt mind staying now are leaning to reunification. vocal unionists are an incredibly minority- only two towns and maybe half of antrim- and though they are loud, theyve little political power. dublin is becoming more and more explicit- our president refusing to go to partition commemoration this yr-- and it does seem like SF and PBP has a bigger chance than FFG after this year or two. Basically I think and I'm not the only one that a border poll will be on it before 2030. London may not want it but enough pressure and the way they are trying to make Brexit work- they don't rightly have a say do they?
Essentially the largest voting block in the North was always "we just want to be safe, it doesnt matter how." but after how explicitly brexit ignored everyones wishes, and the uk kept threatening to not only cause a hard border that would change everyones livelihoods when so much is done between the borders, but also a target for terrorism-- it has always been clear the UK doesnt give a flying fuck about the north but esp after Brexit that neutral block who just wanted safety are realising that the UK isn't going to protect that basic right anymore. More politicians are becoming extremely vocal on both sides of partition as well. But yeah. 2020s are gonna be a big deal. I'm 26 and I genuinely believe by the time I have kids leaving primary school age there will be no partition. pushed by brexit.
@@al959 The thing is, it is unrealistic to expect that 1 million people should be able to overrule 17.4 million people. What England and Wales wanted on Brexit, they were going to get. It's not that people don't care, it's just that Northern Ireland is distant and quite small in terms of population. I live in a flat which has a balcony with a clear view of London (actually live outside it) and there are more people in that view than on the entire island of Ireland. In that context, Ireland and Northern Ireland are small in comparison. The thing is though, the stuff you mention around the President refusing to go to the centenary and the rise of Sinn Fein in the Republic will likely delay unification. The moderate bloc you keep mentioning will despise Sinn Fein more than the DUP I would imagine. There would also be plenty of other things to factor in that you overlook. Citizenship, autonomy for Ulster, pensions, health and social care, welfare, government spending, cultural funding etc. In any case, at the last Assembly election in 2017, the DUP, UUP and TUV got 43.6% of the vote. Now all three are polling at 43% according to the latest one. Sinn Fein will likely win, but that is because of Unionist infighting as opposed to a desire for unification. In fact, they're on course to get fewer votes than they did in 2017. Also, don't be surprised if London does secretly want a vote. Northern Ireland is a financial blackhole when it comes to government spending. Even then, as per the Good Friday Agreement which got cited a million times whenever Dublin or Brussels didn't get their way, the UK government has to agree to a referendum before it can be held. A united Ireland will be dependent on EU aid to make the place run even relatively smoothly. While the EU appreciates Ireland's geopolitical position to hamper Brexit, if Northern Ireland joins the Republic, the latter is dependent on the goodwill of fellow EU members who will have to persuade their electorate to hand over a lot of money.
I think what's a lot more likely than reunification in the next few years is militant unionists sparking wide-scale violence from frustration with the unworkable situation with the protocol and brexit.
I think what makes Irish independence (although not 100% fully) shocking is the proximity to the UK mainland. Where rebellions in Africa have the benefit of being far away.
@@oliversherman2414 But the island of the Isle of Wight is a very important island in the island of the British Isles of the island of Great Britain and the island of Northern Island of Ireland.
I think it is a bit misleading saying de valera "didnt get his way" going the negotiations and not Including that he met with lyod George already It comes across like he wanted to go to England rather than just deciding not to
Wished you would have talked more about other Soviets in Ireland other than just the Limerick Soviet. Like there was the Knoklong Soviet that also formed in 1919 in favor for Irish independence. But also there was other Soviets that were formed in 1920-22 that even fought for the Anti-Treaty IRA in the Irish Civil War, or what I would call the Counter-Revolutionary period of the Irish Revolution. There was the Bruere Soviet, the Waterford Soviet, the Cork Harbor Soviet, Castle Connell Soviet, the Tipperary Soviet, and many more. Hell there was even a dual power schism that occurred in Dublin between the Irish Republic and the Dublin Soviet. Regardless great video and very well made.
@@schubi42 not just Europe but also in the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Like there was Red Summer which was a period from 1918-23 where workers rose up and seized private property, the most famous events during this time was the Battle of Blair Mountain and the New York Riot of 1921. But also in Persia, there was the Persian Soviet Republic. And many more. The Revolutions of 1917-23 were a period of world Revolutions made by the workers themselves.
Ireland is a very very fascinating country that has for over 2 millennia, strove to become one and free. I really find this very powerful, good representation and blackly funny telling of Revolutionary Ireland in the early 20th century. It's such a beautiful country that deserves so much more!
Enniscorthy also took positions during the Easter rising. @John correct me if I am wrong but I think the might have held for an extra day or 2 after our lads in Dublin surrender. I live in enniscorthy. Go to the 1798 centre in enniscorthy (vinegar hill). It's great. Only €6. 20,000 people died in county Wexford with 4 weeks during the 1798 rebellion. Keep up the great work @Ruddy
One of my relatives was one of the first few of the 77 executed from January '23. The changed the location on his death certificate, dont know if he was killed in Keogh Barracks , Killmainham or out in a field. He was a National Army soldier who returned to the Anti-Treaty IRA. He was executed for "treachery". Really sad time in Irish history. His name was Sylvester Heaney is anyone is interested. He was only 19.
It either was my Great Grandparents or Great-Great Grandparents that immigrated to america during Easter rising in 1916 or any point from 1916 to 1923 during the whole rebellion there
The sad thing is the world war 1 uprising would have worked if 1 the German ship docked 2 the leader gave the go ahead 3 the ports railway stations castle were taken and 4 the uprising toke place all over island the military couldn't take all of Ireland only doing it in one city doomed it from the start
I relish these videos, as American public education focuses on the Troubles and the Good Friday accord. Very little mention of how's and why's of such domestic terrorism.
As a Brit, I think so long as the people of Northern Ireland want to stay British, they should have the right to do so. Of course this opinion may change if the Northern Irelanders began pushing more for a united Ireland. However, so long as the status quo is thriving, I don't see any need to force Ulster into a union it might not even want
What do you think about Ireland's neutrality in World War II? Some of my relatives have always felt kind of embarrassed by it. I find it to be kind of an overlooked subject.
In hindsight it does indeed look bad. At the time, I think it was more a way of Ireland flexing its new independence and not going to war alongside Britain yet again. But yea, making a stand by refusing to fight the Nazis… not Ireland’s greatest moment. Lol
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan a fair point, however I would also argue that at the time leading up to the war during the 1930s, from the Irish perspective,particularly of the more staunchly Republican views, Nazi Germany really wasn't any morally worse than the British Empire, there was very little desire to aid Britain in anything.
@@firesb7791 Yeah, it really shows that the conservative Catholic theocrats in the Irish government were fine with imperialism as long as they weren't the victims. The bitter taste of the British Empire even led some Irish people to sympathise with and even collaborate with the Nazis, including IRA members like Seán Russell, Jim O Donavan and Stephen Hayes, who set up communications with the Reich and made plans to assist them in their invasion of Britain. It's kind of similar to how many of the Moore people supported Franco and the fascists in the Spanish Civil War against the Republican government, or how the Confederacy bought the loyalty of many Indigenous Americans in the American Civil War, convincing them that they could give them the autonomy that the Union had denied them.
@@karl5599From what I have read there was no serious force for joining the War except a dissident Fine Gael Teachta Dála. Also this: "Yeah, it really shows that the conservative Catholic theocrats in the Irish government were fine with imperialism as long as they weren't the victims." This is nonsensical. The Fine Gael opposition wanted Ireland to side with Nationalist Spain and Fascist Italy in their Wars because they were Catholic but the government refused to. Furthermore, we do have documents of what the Irish were doing behind the scenes and the British government in Cabinet accepted that the Irish were helping out a lot like executing members of the Irish Republican Army and interning them.
It would be really interesting to see what the revolutionary years 1916-1922 were like in Ulster for both unionists and republicans. It'd be interesting to see if there could of been any chance of convincing the unionists to accept a republic or if everyone (both British and the Irish) thought that partition was only temporary then what did the unionists think? Did they believe Northern Ireland and partition for that matter was only temporary or did they truly believe that no matter what happend they would forever remain in the UK?
I’m fascinated with this period. I’d love to visit Dublin and learn more about some of these sites. And have a few pints of fresh Guinness too. 🏴 ❤️ 🇮🇪
Brilliant exposition of modern Irish history. My Mother was born in Kells, Co. Meath in 1909 of an English Father. She remembered IRA men being hidden in the loft during the civil war. Wind Shakes the Barley; makes me too upset to watch. I had thought of returning to my roots in 2015, until I heard the "angelus" on RTE. Include me out of religion. "Dev" was a Knickerbocker (born in New York) as I recall, of Iberian extraction on his Father's side. Homo sapiens sapiens my favourite joke in Science.
10:46 Actually: "The court martial was presided over by Major-General Charles Guinand Blackader. An interesting vignette is preserved in the memoirs of society hostess Elizabeth Burke-Plunkett: General Blackader, who was President of the Courts-Martial, used to dine with us sometimes. He came to dinner one night greatly depressed. I asked him, 'what is the matter?' He answered: 'I have just done one of the hardest tasks I have ever had to do. I have had to condemn to death one of the finest characters I have ever come across. There must be something very wrong in the state of things that makes a man like that a rebel. I don't wonder that his pupils adored him.'"
As a man of both mexican and Irish descent, hearing the full history of the Irish War of Independance it is so parallel to the chaos of the Mexican war of Independance. First kicking out the spanish, then the french and finally the very real "game of thrones" style war and political upheaval.
Excellent account of this period. Disappointed tho that you didnt include The Battles of Belleek & Pettigo (Fermanagh & Donegal) in June & July of 1922, right on the North/South border. 6 killed, 3 Irish: 3 British. Collins was the elected MP for Armagh at that time.
One thing I find interesting about the Irish Civil War is that even though the pro-Treaty side won the democratic elections and the will of the Irish people was that of peace, whenever I see Irish people from today commenting on it, they are almost always condemning the pro-Treaty camp. Why?
A lot of Irish people talking about it today often don’t understand the historical context or more often are Americans who really don’t understand the historical context
@@RandomTomatoSoup Probably a bit of a stretch to say the Irish Party was "pro-British". although Sinn Fein made them look positively Anglophile by comparison. In terms of morality, that's too simplistic. Was the Irish Party morally right to try and force a primarily Unionist Ulster into a United Ireland using the force of the Liberal led government? Were the Tories and Ulster Unionists in the wrong for defending the self-determination of the Protestant population there? By the logic we use today on these issues, an argument can be made that the British governments prior to the Home Rule crisis had been acting morally in that sense. For what it's worth, I believe Home Rule should have been granted to Ireland minus those 4-6 counties who should have had referendums on the issue.
@@cobbler9113 It doesn't make any sense the way the Brits did it though even if we give them credence regarding morality, which I would disagree with because it's not right to gerrymander boundaries and of course discrimination against Catholics was very rampant up until the last couple of decades. Donegal had a significant protestant population yet was in the Free state and Tyrone and Fermanagh had catholic majorities and were to be in NI, didn't make any sense with regards to self-determination. It seems that the Brits were just trying to hold onto the economic benefits and keep them for as long as possible by choosing particular counties.
Having been looking into Irish revolutionary history, the historical trajectory looked like that Ireland would remain part of the UK but with Home Rule, comparable to Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales today. But minor events meant that this was prevented and the trajectory became Irish independence. - 19th Century Irish Nationalism primarily focused on home rule (autonomy within the UK) rather than independence. - Home Rule Crisis and WW1 prevented the implementeation of the first Home Rule bill/act. - Despite the Easter Rising not gaining wide support as well as the most Irish being content with the status quo and hoping for home rule, the British shot themselves in the foot through the swift executions of the Rising perpretrators and the mass arrests which changed public opinion in favour of independence. - Britain attempting to apply conscription to Ireland and causing a backlash. - The IRA on the brink of collapse and defeat just as Britain called a truce. - British PM Lloyd George threatening "terrible war" if the Anglo-Irish Treaty was rejected, likely a reconquest of Ireland and more direct rule. The Irish negotiators could have easily rejected the Treaty (as many anti-Treatyites wanted, but signing it prevented the alternative terrible outcome. Before anyone loses their horses, this is not advocating Ireland should have remained part of the UK, rather its pointing out that if minor changes to history took place, things could have been very different for Ireland.
Something you never mentioned is that the Irish did also kill civilians during the Easter Uprising, and one of the people that the Irish saw as the definition of English oppression was actually an Irish Nationalist that simply disliked the uprising, but wanted a a Free Ireland
To settle the case that people want Northern Ireland to join Ireland Proper, Ulster had been mainly Protestant, it would be a major problem and could cause another Civil War if both Irelands joined together
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan it could basically be the same as syndicate, allowing you to use a revolver and maybe a bolt action rifle. Anything would be better than the live service thing they're planning.
In the part of Northern Ireland we still haven't forgiven been stabbed in the back in 1916. The pride of Ulster were going over the top in the Somme at the time.
Tens of thousands of Irish Catholics fought on the western front too. It was just opportunism, no neutral observer would blame Irish Nationalists for 1916. Remember The Ulster Scots in America led the fight against Britain when they felt it better suited their interests. Goose and Gander mate.
@@billlecky7964 What has Ulster Scots in America got to do with it? There were Orange Marches in Canada too. Also more people from Ulster went over if I am not mistaken and a rebellion is the fault of the people who rebel and I think it was not justified. It would have made more sense to work within the U.K. and the Council of Ireland. It is a better situation than giving the keys to the North.
Come out ye black and tans Come out and fight me like a man Show your wives how you won medals down in Flanders tell 'em how the IRA made you run like hell away from the green and lovely lanes of Killeshandra
Dear Manny Man! Tell me please as an Irishman an answer to the foreighner guy who's interested in politics, society changes and wannabe-history buff: if the British didn't, you know, fucked up *that many* times would your then country remained part of U.K.? There are examples when British fucked up might be... errr... explained through the lense of fucked up circumstances. That Cromwell/Ireton's business in Ireland with massacres and starvation might be explained that Cromwell was an arsehole not only to Irish but to, well, *everyone* (after all he's the living Grinch himself). Besides there is such thing as "moral highground" and that thing is shifty to say the least. Please do not be offended on what be written next: To me as foreighner your country's independence seems accidental. The British were just too tired of blood and fighting from WW1 plus a really untimeful moment they've decided to speak on verge of victory. And the Irish civil war seems to me frankly as tragic and stupid as so called "Paris Commune" after Franco-Prussian war. Even with all these explanations you've gave my mind still boggling: "WHY THE FUCK!?" and "ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?" are primary questions without clear enough answers to suffice. Thank you!
I'm not Irish, but I can tell you that just about every former colony's formal independence has been due to the colonizer not having the energy to fight for them anymore. But you don't need the energy to fight if there is no fight. So the Irish absolutely got their independence because they fought for it.
@@erraticonteuse By 1921 British enthusiasm to keep what is now the Republic of Ireland as an integral part of the UK had definitely collapsed. There were actually minutes taken in Downing St where UK Ministers basically said the only ways out of Ireland are to give up direct rule in the south or genocide the place. Oddly enough, they weren't keen on that second approach to put it mildly... Even then though, Sinn Fein knew they couldn't win if the war resumed due to shortages of ammunition, more British troops arriving and the fact the military and auxiliaries had started to figure out how to defeat the IRA in combat. I know if you're a diehard Republican, the treaty wasn't ideal, but Ireland could govern itself internally, bought peace (after the pointless Civil War anyway) and it paved the way to where Ireland is today.
I'm from the UK, and in my opinion Ireland could have stayed in the UK to the present day if it had been treated more like a true part of the country, rather than like a colony within the country. If that had been the case since the 1801 Act of Union then Ireland today would probably be a lot like Scotland today - a devolved government/Irish parliament that handles most of Ireland's internal affairs and laws, a large independence movement, but otherwise peaceful and well integrated into the UK. If you mean "what if the British government didn't sue for peace and the IRA collapsed?" then I still think Irish independence would've happened, but later on. By that point bitterness was widespread and the 'Irish issue' would keep coming up until eventually the British got fed up with it. Maybe there would've been another rising during WW2, maybe there would've been a communist rising during the Cold War, maybe there would've been a democratic referendum. But separation would be the solution. Ultimately the British would rather have an Irish republic as a friendly neighbor and trading partner, rather than a constant source of civil war, or an ally of enemy states, or a communist island in Western Europe. And the prolonging of violence made all of those outcomes more likely. Peace was the right answer.
@@schubi42 Yes this is true, Scotland experienced the highland clearances, and Wales was just a part of England until recently. England itself has never had any kind of devolved government, except London which SORT OF does. And then Northern Ireland is really just a political nightmare that we try our best to pretend doesn't exist. :P
Full Proclamation of Irish Independence IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN : In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom. Having organised and trained her manhood through her secret revolutionary organisation, the Irish Republican Brotherhood, and through her open military organisations, the Irish Volunteers and the Irish Citizen Army, having patiently perfected her discipline, having resolutely waited for the right moment to reveal itself, she now seizes that moment, and supported by her exiled children in America and by gallant allies in Europe, but relying in the first on her own strength, she strikes in full confidence of victory. We declare the right of the people of Ireland to the ownership of Ireland and to the unfettered control of Irish destinies, to be sovereign and indefeasible. The long usurpation of that right by a foreign people and government has not extinguished the right, nor can it ever be extinguished except by the destruction of the Irish people. In every generation the Irish people have asserted their right to national freedom and sovereignty; six times during the past three hundred years they have asserted it in arms. Standing on that fundamental right and again asserting it in arms in the face of the world, we hereby proclaim the Irish Republic as a Sovereign Independent State, and we pledge our lives and the lives of our comrades in arms to the cause of its freedom, of its welfare, and of its exaltation among the nations. The Irish Republic is entitled to, and hereby claims, the allegiance of every Irishman and Irishwoman. The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all of the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien Government, which have divided a minority from the majority in the past. Until our arms have brought the opportune moment for the establishment of a permanent National Government, representative of the whole people of Ireland and elected by the suffrages of all her men and women, the Provisional Government, hereby constituted, will administer the civil and military affairs of the Republic in trust for the people. We place the cause of the Irish Republic under the protection of the Most High God, Whose blessing we invoke upon our arms, and we pray that no one who serves that cause will dishonour it by cowardice, inhumanity, or rapine. In this supreme hour the Irish nation must, by its valour and discipline, and by the readiness of its children to sacrifice themselves for the common good, prove itself worthy of the august destiny to which it is called.
When you upload an updated version of the video about US presidents, maybe you could mention how some news stories say that it’s likely that the USA’s death toll from COVID, might be millions higher than was estimated.
I hope he doesn't do that. Who needs an incidental time capsule that's irrelevant to the topic at hand? And what does it matter to the rest of the world what's happening to American death rate estimates?
For me, the War of Independance and Civil War are just 'messy'. They are important to learn about and reconcile with, no doubt, but I think it's a part of Irish history better left to be looked at and understood, not to be used as a political or secretarian tool. That's how violence erupts, and I think I speak for alot of Irish people when I say that there's been enough blood spilt on the Island. I have respect for the sovereignty of N. Ireland, and I would hope that many of them feel similar towards the Republic, the people I know from there certainly do
Englishman here, loving your videos ( some hard truths going on! ), so much information delivered so well, hope the audience numbers grow exponentially for this channel
I love when John voices Dev. The thick Bruree, Limerick accent of the real man comes through very reverently. It's a great impersonation.
your name says Stephen Wright but your picture says Daniel Webster.
@@dakotahmcguire That's right. Funny you should spot that. I consider myself to have had two hometowns, one of which is Webster, MA, founded by an immigrant Englishman and industrial spy called Samuel Slater. As he didn't want the town named after him (but instead his political idol Sen. Webster), likewise I don't want to use my real face as my avatar.
@@stephenwright8824 cool
who is john
@@KingToad_Official the guy who narrates the video
I think it's fair to say that WW1 (at least initially) delayed Civil War from breaking out in Ireland.
Oh definitely. If you’re referring to the issues around Home Rule, I believe the British government was so preoccupied around a Unionist uprising and a Nationalist backlash that they only took a serious interest in the prospect of a European war about two days before Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia.
I read that as WW1 was delayed due to the civil war breaking out in Ireland. All roads lead to Dublin confirmed
@@uckbritley1305 The Rocky Road to Dublin
Then again, the number of Irish killed was much, MUCH more than the Rising, War of Independence, and the inevitable Civil War combined (50,000 Irish soldiers killed and 100,000 wounded, captured, or shellshocked). Even the Irish veterans of the Great War that joined the Free State Forces during the Civil War said that the it was not even nearly as bad as the horrors they witnessed in the trenches. Sorry for the history ramble, just wanted share more info.
@@DraftTheHippies that's fine, given how (at the time) Ireland was an integral part of the United Kingdom, it seems like the contribution of Irish troops gets overlooked, or at least mixed in with the official casualties of British casualties of WW1. The context is useful, and eye opening, thanks
hey! always go outta my way to support irish creators & i love what youre doing. when abroad it is a bit of a rude awakening being confronted with foreigners who simultaneously know nothing about ireland but *think* they do, so thank you for educating ppl who didnt have to suffer thru a leaving cert of it! 😂
a level history exam in two days u are a lifesaver
The story of Ireland was a great documentary, thanks for the suggestion! I look forward to your eventual video on the troubles! Keep up the great work and cheers from Colorado
The Conquest of Ireland arguably wasn’t fully completed until the Act of Union in 1800 when the Kingdom of Ireland (after centuries of constitutional and regime changes) was forcibly merged into the British state (though our civil service and courts remained separate, and we retained our legislative representatives). Those representatives forced to sit in London instead of Dublin, but went back to Ireland in 1919 and declared independence in a reconstituted Irish Parliament (copying the Hungarian walkout of the Austrian parliament in the 1860s).
European history is very complicated as you can imagine !
Harry Boland, right hand man of De Valera
Also Harry Boland: *Holds revolver with left hand*
The 2020’s are gonna be a very interesting time for the island of Ireland
Indeed, but I don't think (re?)unification will happen until at least 2040. Nationalists don't have enough support in Northern Ireland, Unionist parties are still polling well collectively despite their splits and Sinn Fein's rise in the Republic will likely alienate those more neutral/moderate in Northern Ireland on this issue. I can't see either London or Dublin realistically supporting a referendum until its clear both areas will choose unification.
@@cobbler9113 Actually I'd quite disagree with this- I don't think it will be until a few more GEs, but Brexit has made it that the largest voting block in the north- the neutral ones who didn't mind staying w UK- have experienced firsthand how little the Uk cares after not counting their wishes around something like Brexit that impacts everyone so severely esp in the north. so the massive block of northeners who didnt mind staying now are leaning to reunification. vocal unionists are an incredibly minority- only two towns and maybe half of antrim- and though they are loud, theyve little political power. dublin is becoming more and more explicit- our president refusing to go to partition commemoration this yr-- and it does seem like SF and PBP has a bigger chance than FFG after this year or two. Basically I think and I'm not the only one that a border poll will be on it before 2030. London may not want it but enough pressure and the way they are trying to make Brexit work- they don't rightly have a say do they?
Essentially the largest voting block in the North was always "we just want to be safe, it doesnt matter how." but after how explicitly brexit ignored everyones wishes, and the uk kept threatening to not only cause a hard border that would change everyones livelihoods when so much is done between the borders, but also a target for terrorism-- it has always been clear the UK doesnt give a flying fuck about the north but esp after Brexit that neutral block who just wanted safety are realising that the UK isn't going to protect that basic right anymore. More politicians are becoming extremely vocal on both sides of partition as well. But yeah. 2020s are gonna be a big deal. I'm 26 and I genuinely believe by the time I have kids leaving primary school age there will be no partition. pushed by brexit.
@@al959 The thing is, it is unrealistic to expect that 1 million people should be able to overrule 17.4 million people. What England and Wales wanted on Brexit, they were going to get. It's not that people don't care, it's just that Northern Ireland is distant and quite small in terms of population. I live in a flat which has a balcony with a clear view of London (actually live outside it) and there are more people in that view than on the entire island of Ireland. In that context, Ireland and Northern Ireland are small in comparison.
The thing is though, the stuff you mention around the President refusing to go to the centenary and the rise of Sinn Fein in the Republic will likely delay unification. The moderate bloc you keep mentioning will despise Sinn Fein more than the DUP I would imagine. There would also be plenty of other things to factor in that you overlook. Citizenship, autonomy for Ulster, pensions, health and social care, welfare, government spending, cultural funding etc. In any case, at the last Assembly election in 2017, the DUP, UUP and TUV got 43.6% of the vote. Now all three are polling at 43% according to the latest one. Sinn Fein will likely win, but that is because of Unionist infighting as opposed to a desire for unification. In fact, they're on course to get fewer votes than they did in 2017.
Also, don't be surprised if London does secretly want a vote. Northern Ireland is a financial blackhole when it comes to government spending. Even then, as per the Good Friday Agreement which got cited a million times whenever Dublin or Brussels didn't get their way, the UK government has to agree to a referendum before it can be held.
A united Ireland will be dependent on EU aid to make the place run even relatively smoothly. While the EU appreciates Ireland's geopolitical position to hamper Brexit, if Northern Ireland joins the Republic, the latter is dependent on the goodwill of fellow EU members who will have to persuade their electorate to hand over a lot of money.
I think what's a lot more likely than reunification in the next few years is militant unionists sparking wide-scale violence from frustration with the unworkable situation with the protocol and brexit.
Fine remaster of the old episodes. better than GTA TRILOGY REMASTERED, that's for sure
P.S.: i always chuckle when I hear Eamon De Valera talks.
I think what makes Irish independence (although not 100% fully) shocking is the proximity to the UK mainland. Where rebellions in Africa have the benefit of being far away.
Pretty close to the Isle of Wight too.
@@thejoin4687 the true Homebase of the empire
@@davidthewhale7556 nah my guy Jan Mayen is the true base of any lasting empire. The bear has landed
@@thejoin4687Don't you mean the Isle of Man? The Isle of Wight is the English Channel, not the Irish Sea
@@oliversherman2414 But the island of the Isle of Wight is a very important island in the island of the British Isles of the island of Great Britain and the island of Northern Island of Ireland.
I think it is a bit misleading saying de valera "didnt get his way" going the negotiations and not Including that he met with lyod George already It comes across like he wanted to go to England rather than just deciding not to
Dammit John, if only you had released this a year ago when I was doing a research project on this exact topic and used you as one of my sources
Mate you’re helping me get through my A-Levels.
This is a great video! I didn’t know much about revolutionary ireland before this video, again good job!
Wished you would have talked more about other Soviets in Ireland other than just the Limerick Soviet. Like there was the Knoklong Soviet that also formed in 1919 in favor for Irish independence. But also there was other Soviets that were formed in 1920-22 that even fought for the Anti-Treaty IRA in the Irish Civil War, or what I would call the Counter-Revolutionary period of the Irish Revolution. There was the Bruere Soviet, the Waterford Soviet, the Cork Harbor Soviet, Castle Connell Soviet, the Tipperary Soviet, and many more. Hell there was even a dual power schism that occurred in Dublin between the Irish Republic and the Dublin Soviet. Regardless great video and very well made.
Where did you learn if all this
@@schubi42 not just Europe but also in the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Like there was Red Summer which was a period from 1918-23 where workers rose up and seized private property, the most famous events during this time was the Battle of Blair Mountain and the New York Riot of 1921. But also in Persia, there was the Persian Soviet Republic. And many more. The Revolutions of 1917-23 were a period of world Revolutions made by the workers themselves.
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Ireland is a very very fascinating country that has for over 2 millennia, strove to become one and free. I really find this very powerful, good representation and blackly funny telling of Revolutionary Ireland in the early 20th century. It's such a beautiful country that deserves so much more!
Your videos are pure class mate.
Enniscorthy also took positions during the Easter rising. @John correct me if I am wrong but I think the might have held for an extra day or 2 after our lads in Dublin surrender. I live in enniscorthy. Go to the 1798 centre in enniscorthy (vinegar hill). It's great. Only €6. 20,000 people died in county Wexford with 4 weeks during the 1798 rebellion. Keep up the great work @Ruddy
My great great grandfather was from Ireland and he was actually forced to leave and go to Scotland because of the Easter revolt he never returned
Very good video, this will help me make my movie script more historically accurate.
Fantastic video lad
Fun fact HMS Helga was bought by the irish when it became a republic renamed L.E. Murachu
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
I wonder how big August 22nd will be this year because it'll be the 100th anniversary of Michael Collins' death
Oh, massive. Th 50th was pretty big. That ^10 at least.
One of my relatives was one of the first few of the 77 executed from January '23. The changed the location on his death certificate, dont know if he was killed in Keogh Barracks , Killmainham or out in a field. He was a National Army soldier who returned to the Anti-Treaty IRA. He was executed for "treachery". Really sad time in Irish history.
His name was Sylvester Heaney is anyone is interested. He was only 19.
17:21 Well thats DARK
I remember you coming to my class(I was the one that said people would be shocked at how many books I had)
Even though I’ve saw the videos that made up this supercut, it’s still nice to see
It either was my Great Grandparents or Great-Great Grandparents that immigrated to america during Easter rising in 1916 or any point from 1916 to 1923 during the whole rebellion there
The sad thing is the world war 1 uprising would have worked if 1 the German ship docked 2 the leader gave the go ahead 3 the ports railway stations castle were taken and 4 the uprising toke place all over island the military couldn't take all of Ireland only doing it in one city doomed it from the start
17:17 what a creative name WOW
here in northern ireland we study irish history for a levels so thank you
16:12 Excellent Father Ted reference!
16:12 good, we don't want to starve again, we already had one famine.
I want to meet you because your the only true Irish person that I watch and I’m from Ireland
"British Secretary of State for War Winston Churchil"
He later became the only British man who saved the British Empire in WW2
I relish these videos, as American public education focuses on the Troubles and the Good Friday accord. Very little mention of how's and why's of such domestic terrorism.
I honestly thought that the American education system didn’t even brush upon anything to do with the revolution against the brits.
@@rebeccapower6143 I think New York's curriculum includes An Drochshaol (1845-1852).
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The assassination triggered a ligne of events which let to WW1.
As well WW2, Cold war and more.
Perhaps it's time for another try
I wonder what would have happened if michael collins didn't die
No Easter Egg Hunts? That's just cruel, shame on you Eoin!
Excellent video. Use them to teach my students.
As a Brit, I think so long as the people of Northern Ireland want to stay British, they should have the right to do so. Of course this opinion may change if the Northern Irelanders began pushing more for a united Ireland. However, so long as the status quo is thriving, I don't see any need to force Ulster into a union it might not even want
are you goanna do a video on The Troubles?
What do you think about Ireland's neutrality in World War II? Some of my relatives have always felt kind of embarrassed by it. I find it to be kind of an overlooked subject.
In hindsight it does indeed look bad. At the time, I think it was more a way of Ireland flexing its new independence and not going to war alongside Britain yet again. But yea, making a stand by refusing to fight the Nazis… not Ireland’s greatest moment. Lol
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan a fair point, however I would also argue that at the time leading up to the war during the 1930s, from the Irish perspective,particularly of the more staunchly Republican views, Nazi Germany really wasn't any morally worse than the British Empire, there was very little desire to aid Britain in anything.
@@firesb7791 Yeah, it really shows that the conservative Catholic theocrats in the Irish government were fine with imperialism as long as they weren't the victims. The bitter taste of the British Empire even led some Irish people to sympathise with and even collaborate with the Nazis, including IRA members like Seán Russell, Jim O Donavan and Stephen Hayes, who set up communications with the Reich and made plans to assist them in their invasion of Britain. It's kind of similar to how many of the Moore people supported Franco and the fascists in the Spanish Civil War against the Republican government, or how the Confederacy bought the loyalty of many Indigenous Americans in the American Civil War, convincing them that they could give them the autonomy that the Union had denied them.
It was none of our business. Ireland still gave some basing and fueling rights for America and the UK
@@karl5599From what I have read there was no serious force for joining the War except a dissident Fine Gael Teachta Dála. Also this: "Yeah, it really shows that the conservative Catholic theocrats in the Irish government were fine with imperialism as long as they weren't the victims." This is nonsensical. The Fine Gael opposition wanted Ireland to side with Nationalist Spain and Fascist Italy in their Wars because they were Catholic but the government refused to. Furthermore, we do have documents of what the Irish were doing behind the scenes and the British government in Cabinet accepted that the Irish were helping out a lot like executing members of the Irish Republican Army and interning them.
It’s sad that nobody seems to mention the marriage in the chapel of the jail 15 minutes before Patrick was shot
Joseph Plunkett…
Saw the wee history of the Gaol movie in Crumlin Road Gaol this afternoon. It was brilliant! Is there a copy on here?
It would be really interesting to see what the revolutionary years 1916-1922 were like in Ulster for both unionists and republicans. It'd be interesting to see if there could of been any chance of convincing the unionists to accept a republic or if everyone (both British and the Irish) thought that partition was only temporary then what did the unionists think? Did they believe Northern Ireland and partition for that matter was only temporary or did they truly believe that no matter what happend they would forever remain in the UK?
I’m fascinated with this period. I’d love to visit Dublin and learn more about some of these sites. And have a few pints of fresh Guinness too. 🏴 ❤️ 🇮🇪
Your videos are good
Brilliant exposition of modern Irish history. My Mother was born in Kells, Co. Meath in 1909 of an English Father. She remembered IRA men being hidden in the loft during the civil war.
Wind Shakes the Barley; makes me too upset to watch.
I had thought of returning to my roots in 2015, until I heard the "angelus" on RTE. Include me out of religion. "Dev" was a Knickerbocker (born in New York) as I recall, of Iberian extraction on his Father's side.
Homo sapiens sapiens my favourite joke in Science.
10:46 Actually: "The court martial was presided over by Major-General Charles Guinand Blackader. An interesting vignette is preserved in the memoirs of society hostess Elizabeth Burke-Plunkett:
General Blackader, who was President of the Courts-Martial, used to dine with us sometimes. He came to dinner one night greatly depressed. I asked him, 'what is the matter?' He answered: 'I have just done one of the hardest tasks I have ever had to do. I have had to condemn to death one of the finest characters I have ever come across. There must be something very wrong in the state of things that makes a man like that a rebel. I don't wonder that his pupils adored him.'"
Wow!
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan The quote was about Pádraig Anraí Mac Piarais.
"Isaac Butt" yep, that's his last name
As a man of both mexican and Irish descent, hearing the full history of the Irish War of Independance it is so parallel to the chaos of the Mexican war of Independance. First kicking out the spanish, then the french and finally the very real "game of thrones" style war and political upheaval.
There was a lot going on in between.
Democracy must be created with the shedding of blood
I wish you would have done a Tom cruise cameo
Is there a video about Colombia and the Civil War.
I sure hope it works out for you lads, peacefully.
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How long does it take you to make these characters and art for a video like this?
Excellent account of this period. Disappointed tho that you didnt include The Battles of Belleek & Pettigo (Fermanagh & Donegal) in June & July of 1922, right on the North/South border. 6 killed, 3 Irish: 3 British. Collins was the elected MP for Armagh at that time.
40:52 wait? Is that parties flag just a field of purple?
One thing I find interesting about the Irish Civil War is that even though the pro-Treaty side won the democratic elections and the will of the Irish people was that of peace, whenever I see Irish people from today commenting on it, they are almost always condemning the pro-Treaty camp. Why?
A lot of Irish people talking about it today often don’t understand the historical context or more often are Americans who really don’t understand the historical context
Before Easter 1916 pro-British parties dominated every election to Westminster. Do you think that makes the British side more moral?
@@RandomTomatoSoup Probably a bit of a stretch to say the Irish Party was "pro-British". although Sinn Fein made them look positively Anglophile by comparison.
In terms of morality, that's too simplistic. Was the Irish Party morally right to try and force a primarily Unionist Ulster into a United Ireland using the force of the Liberal led government? Were the Tories and Ulster Unionists in the wrong for defending the self-determination of the Protestant population there? By the logic we use today on these issues, an argument can be made that the British governments prior to the Home Rule crisis had been acting morally in that sense.
For what it's worth, I believe Home Rule should have been granted to Ireland minus those 4-6 counties who should have had referendums on the issue.
@@cobbler9113 It doesn't make any sense the way the Brits did it though even if we give them credence regarding morality, which I would disagree with because it's not right to gerrymander boundaries and of course discrimination against Catholics was very rampant up until the last couple of decades. Donegal had a significant protestant population yet was in the Free state and Tyrone and Fermanagh had catholic majorities and were to be in NI, didn't make any sense with regards to self-determination. It seems that the Brits were just trying to hold onto the economic benefits and keep them for as long as possible by choosing particular counties.
Next Video will be called History of Ireland REBOOT REMASTERED REMAKE
Electric Boogaloo.
Actually the next video is entirely new!
Having been looking into Irish revolutionary history, the historical trajectory looked like that Ireland would remain part of the UK but with Home Rule, comparable to Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales today. But minor events meant that this was prevented and the trajectory became Irish independence.
- 19th Century Irish Nationalism primarily focused on home rule (autonomy within the UK) rather than independence.
- Home Rule Crisis and WW1 prevented the implementeation of the first Home Rule bill/act.
- Despite the Easter Rising not gaining wide support as well as the most Irish being content with the status quo and hoping for home rule, the British shot themselves in the foot through the swift executions of the Rising perpretrators and the mass arrests which changed public opinion in favour of independence.
- Britain attempting to apply conscription to Ireland and causing a backlash.
- The IRA on the brink of collapse and defeat just as Britain called a truce.
- British PM Lloyd George threatening "terrible war" if the Anglo-Irish Treaty was rejected, likely a reconquest of Ireland and more direct rule. The Irish negotiators could have easily rejected the Treaty (as many anti-Treatyites wanted, but signing it prevented the alternative terrible outcome.
Before anyone loses their horses, this is not advocating Ireland should have remained part of the UK, rather its pointing out that if minor changes to history took place, things could have been very different for Ireland.
Omg I know you what???? You used to teach at the school I went to. (I just found that out lop)
Damn,
Ireland is a very funny place, sir
“ Come out Ye Black and Tans, Come out and fight me like a man, Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders…”
Something you never mentioned is that the Irish did also kill civilians during the Easter Uprising, and one of the people that the Irish saw as the definition of English oppression was actually an Irish Nationalist that simply disliked the uprising, but wanted a a Free Ireland
There were @~?£ty things they did like shooting unarmed Policemen but the British killed civilians as well.
To settle the case that people want Northern Ireland to join Ireland Proper, Ulster had been mainly Protestant, it would be a major problem and could cause another Civil War if both Irelands joined together
How about rms titanic story
I wish ubisoft could see how great of an AC game this could be, so much big historical figures, guerilla warfare, betrayals, so much potential.
I think they said they never wanted to go beyond WW1
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan it could basically be the same as syndicate, allowing you to use a revolver and maybe a bolt action rifle. Anything would be better than the live service thing they're planning.
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan They did go to ww1 era with a mission in AC syndicate
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In the part of Northern Ireland we still haven't forgiven been stabbed in the back in 1916. The pride of Ulster were going over the top in the Somme at the time.
It’s a fair sentiment if you’re that way inclined
Tens of thousands of Irish Catholics fought on the western front too. It was just opportunism, no neutral observer would blame Irish Nationalists for 1916. Remember The Ulster Scots in America led the fight against Britain when they felt it better suited their interests. Goose and Gander mate.
@@billlecky7964 What has Ulster Scots in America got to do with it? There were Orange Marches in Canada too. Also more people from Ulster went over if I am not mistaken and a rebellion is the fault of the people who rebel and I think it was not justified. It would have made more sense to work within the U.K. and the Council of Ireland. It is a better situation than giving the keys to the North.
"Named after the soviets after taking control of-"
Most of
"Russia only 2 years before"
15:27 All I can think of is half life.
Come out ye black and tans
Come out and fight me like a man
Show your wives how you won medals down in Flanders
tell 'em how the IRA made you run like hell away
from the green and lovely lanes of Killeshandra
It’s Padraig Pearse not Patrick
Well if you’re gonna be technical it’s Padraig Mac Piarais
Free the 6 up Tyrone
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Are you from Ireland🇨🇮John?
Yes
No
Yes he is
Dear Manny Man!
Tell me please as an Irishman an answer to the foreighner guy who's interested in politics, society changes and wannabe-history buff: if the British didn't, you know, fucked up *that many* times would your then country remained part of U.K.?
There are examples when British fucked up might be... errr... explained through the lense of fucked up circumstances. That Cromwell/Ireton's business in Ireland with massacres and starvation might be explained that Cromwell was an arsehole not only to Irish but to, well, *everyone* (after all he's the living Grinch himself).
Besides there is such thing as "moral highground" and that thing is shifty to say the least.
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To me as foreighner your country's independence seems accidental. The British were just too tired of blood and fighting from WW1 plus a really untimeful moment they've decided to speak on verge of victory. And the Irish civil war seems to me frankly as tragic and stupid as so called "Paris Commune" after Franco-Prussian war. Even with all these explanations you've gave my mind still boggling: "WHY THE FUCK!?" and "ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?" are primary questions without clear enough answers to suffice.
Thank you!
I'm not Irish, but I can tell you that just about every former colony's formal independence has been due to the colonizer not having the energy to fight for them anymore. But you don't need the energy to fight if there is no fight. So the Irish absolutely got their independence because they fought for it.
@@erraticonteuse By 1921 British enthusiasm to keep what is now the Republic of Ireland as an integral part of the UK had definitely collapsed. There were actually minutes taken in Downing St where UK Ministers basically said the only ways out of Ireland are to give up direct rule in the south or genocide the place. Oddly enough, they weren't keen on that second approach to put it mildly... Even then though, Sinn Fein knew they couldn't win if the war resumed due to shortages of ammunition, more British troops arriving and the fact the military and auxiliaries had started to figure out how to defeat the IRA in combat. I know if you're a diehard Republican, the treaty wasn't ideal, but Ireland could govern itself internally, bought peace (after the pointless Civil War anyway) and it paved the way to where Ireland is today.
I'm from the UK, and in my opinion Ireland could have stayed in the UK to the present day if it had been treated more like a true part of the country, rather than like a colony within the country. If that had been the case since the 1801 Act of Union then Ireland today would probably be a lot like Scotland today - a devolved government/Irish parliament that handles most of Ireland's internal affairs and laws, a large independence movement, but otherwise peaceful and well integrated into the UK.
If you mean "what if the British government didn't sue for peace and the IRA collapsed?" then I still think Irish independence would've happened, but later on. By that point bitterness was widespread and the 'Irish issue' would keep coming up until eventually the British got fed up with it. Maybe there would've been another rising during WW2, maybe there would've been a communist rising during the Cold War, maybe there would've been a democratic referendum. But separation would be the solution.
Ultimately the British would rather have an Irish republic as a friendly neighbor and trading partner, rather than a constant source of civil war, or an ally of enemy states, or a communist island in Western Europe. And the prolonging of violence made all of those outcomes more likely. Peace was the right answer.
@@schubi42 Yes this is true, Scotland experienced the highland clearances, and Wales was just a part of England until recently. England itself has never had any kind of devolved government, except London which SORT OF does. And then Northern Ireland is really just a political nightmare that we try our best to pretend doesn't exist. :P
he is so irish
Oh hey April 21 is my birthday 5:04
26+6
Coming back to mcdonalds any time soon again?
Still a colony.
Can you read you new book please?
Full Proclamation of Irish Independence
IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN : In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom.
Having organised and trained her manhood through her secret revolutionary organisation, the Irish Republican Brotherhood, and through her open military organisations, the Irish Volunteers and the Irish Citizen Army, having patiently perfected her discipline, having resolutely waited for the right moment to reveal itself, she now seizes that moment, and supported by her exiled children in America and by gallant allies in Europe, but relying in the first on her own strength, she strikes in full confidence of victory.
We declare the right of the people of Ireland to the ownership of Ireland and to the unfettered control of Irish destinies, to be sovereign and indefeasible. The long usurpation of that right by a foreign people and government has not extinguished the right, nor can it ever be extinguished except by the destruction of the Irish people. In every generation the Irish people have asserted their right to national freedom and sovereignty; six times during the past three hundred years they have asserted it in arms. Standing on that fundamental right and again asserting it in arms in the face of the world, we hereby proclaim the Irish Republic as a Sovereign Independent State, and we pledge our lives and the lives of our comrades in arms to the cause of its freedom, of its welfare, and of its exaltation among the nations.
The Irish Republic is entitled to, and hereby claims, the allegiance of every Irishman and Irishwoman. The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all of the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien Government, which have divided a minority from the majority in the past.
Until our arms have brought the opportune moment for the establishment of a permanent National Government, representative of the whole people of Ireland and elected by the suffrages of all her men and women, the Provisional Government, hereby constituted, will administer the civil and military affairs of the Republic in trust for the people.
We place the cause of the Irish Republic under the protection of the Most High God, Whose blessing we invoke upon our arms, and we pray that no one who serves that cause will dishonour it by cowardice, inhumanity, or rapine. In this supreme hour the Irish nation must, by its valour and discipline, and by the readiness of its children to sacrifice themselves for the common good, prove itself worthy of the august destiny to which it is called.
uprising in the middle of WW1 was just poor political optics... or genius
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1798 rebellion
It’s pronounced sweeney not swiney
What if Britain didn’t offer the ira a truce in 1921 and the ira did collapse
We’d have a very different Ireland
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When you upload an updated version of the video about US presidents, maybe you could mention how some news stories say that it’s likely that the USA’s death toll from COVID, might be millions higher than was estimated.
I hope he doesn't do that. Who needs an incidental time capsule that's irrelevant to the topic at hand? And what does it matter to the rest of the world what's happening to American death rate estimates?
For me, the War of Independance and Civil War are just 'messy'. They are important to learn about and reconcile with, no doubt, but I think it's a part of Irish history better left to be looked at and understood, not to be used as a political or secretarian tool. That's how violence erupts, and I think I speak for alot of Irish people when I say that there's been enough blood spilt on the Island. I have respect for the sovereignty of N. Ireland, and I would hope that many of them feel similar towards the Republic, the people I know from there certainly do