Irish Civil War in 14 Minutes - Manny Man Does History
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Explore the tragic war which tore Ireland apart at the seems, some which remain torn today!
Written and created by JOHN D RUDDY @johndruddy
Illustrated, voiced and edited by JOHN D RUDDY @johndruddy
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Wow Manny Man! This expansive Universe of cultures you fought up of is really original.
Yeah... I like keeping my info private so no thanks
Didn’t they get hacked once and not tell anyone anything?
I love the Ira
No surrender
USA in 1920s: Look at all this money!
Ireland:
Also USA in the 1920s....."How about some money and weapons?" Ireland: Yes
USA in the 20's: Stocks are booming
Ireland in the 20's: Brits are booming
@@orangepekoe5243 The western world 1950: Boomers been booming ever since.
Black Hand in All world!
666 likes woah
Have you ever heard the tale of the English man, the Scotts Man, the Irish man and the Welsh man on a hot air balloon?
The Capt of the balloon announced that they were slowly going down due to extra weight, the Scotts Man said "for the glory of Scotland and jumped over the side, the basket was still to heavy so the Welsh man says "for the good of Wales" and jumps over the side, the balloon was still going down so the Irish man says "for the glory of Ireland" he grabbed the English man and threw him over the side.
y e s
Nice one
Did you get that from An American Werewolf in London?
@@geekyradical4985 idk i read it in a book
🤣🤣🤣
_"and ive got 'an new shiny helmet and an pair of kinky boots"_
~song name: Kinky boots
I've got a brand new flak jacket, and a lovely khaki suit
And when we go on night patrol, we hold each other’s hand
"Kinky kinky boots".
@Sudais Khan We are the bloated locals, when doing well or not,
thankyou sir, we now defer, we'll take the bloody lot because...we can run it better....?...OOOPS
@Bob Flanders Who dafaq counts Northern Irish as Irish people.
I've mentioned it before, but it bears repeating, one major casualty of the Irish Civil War was the devastation wrought on the Irish railway system. Irish railways had never seen the nationwide development of the British, mostly being a patchwork of narrow and broad gauge lines often barely running at a profit. During the war, the railways became easy targets with both sides blowing up track and bridges to try to limit the other side's mobility, though the widespread use of cars and lorries by both sides mitigated these efforts. Many railways did not survive the civil war, including the unique Listowel & Ballybunion steam monorail, the damages done being too costly for the already struggling companies to repair. The loss of the rail links was most keenly felt in poor rural Ireland, for whom the train was often their only link with the outside world besides horse carts and their own feet. Those lines that did survive would struggle on, many merging with each other for mutual survival, before eventually being nationalized. But even nationalization was not a guarantee of safety as many unprofitable lines, particularly the extensive narrow gauge system, were shut down in the 1960's leaving thousands economically isolated. Ireland's railway system would not see significant recovery until the 1990's and it's future today remains uncertain.
Very interesting, never thought about it that way.
So thats what I tell foreigners when they complain about our crap transport system. Thank You.
@@tinfoilfan4559 Better than America's at least? XD
Well it is end up just the Dublin area one day
@@tinfoilfan4559 My son told a German Secondary School friend who was over here for a couple of years when he complained about bad This Irish Infrastructure ..."Well we all didn't get The Marshall Plan..."... Lol
Stuff like this is why I’m into Irish history, I’m not even Irish 😂
get into yugoslav and balkan history.
Get into *all* history
@Forestainer im not slav..and whats wrong with them?
You don't have to be from any givern country to study its history. There are good lessons to be learned from the histories of all nations.
We’re the 2nd ex colony to get FULL independence an
A video I would love to see is Ireland and Neutrality or Vichy France.
Username somehow checked out
I second the Vichy France video
Holy smokes! Thanks for this video AND thanks to RUclips for allowing me to slow down the replay speed so I could catch on to much of it.
As an American, I really didn't know much about Ireland outside of the Irish American/East Coast immigrant story, the potato famine and only vaguely had an understanding of something called The Troubles, which when I traveled to England in the mid 80s as a high school teenager I feared but no one ever bothered to explain any of it to us.
Now at 50 years old, I'm finally starting to have a grasp of world history and American history, as one often does once they have children. I think it's pretty sad that history is so poorly taught in most places and in most cases. It's why we keep falling into trouble over and over again. Stories need to be told, need to come out or they will be forgotten, until the ugliness rears its head. I've put an emphasis on talking to my teenagers about history that I've recently learned, American history, African American history, Civil War, Reconstruction, Post-Reconstruction... And I make sure to let them know that if I don't tell them there is a good chance they'll never hear about them, and the reason I'm letting them know is because it's important, and they need to pass on the knowledge they have.
If history would be told and taught in this manner to all school children in varying countries it wouldn't be seen as something stodgy or something that happened long ago. We're never taught that the scars of the past are probably very fresh wounds that are only superficially covered. We're only all ever a scratch away from reopening old wounds.
That's something for everyone to keep in mind...
IRELAND GREEN WHITE ORANGE
🥔
Pro treaty: We got Britain to agree to independence, not perfect but we can fix it over time
Anti treaty: So anyway I started blasting
Well Ireland was still a puppet of the UK under the treaty and not fully independent. But that was still better than the alternative of direct rule by the UK for them.
No real independence yet fella.. Not while the 6 counties are still under John Bull's tyranny..
@@stiofanofirghil1916 You mean the 6 counties that the Republic abandoned their claim to.
@@8sins236 You know that was only really a meaningless gesture on paper for peace in the north, they just left it down to a future referendum vote.. With the demographics in the north totally different from when they set up Stormont, as a Protestant Parliament, for a Protestant people, it may soon come, & bring unity?!🤷♂️
@@stiofanofirghil1916 Enjoy your fantasy land mate. A unified Ireland won't happen any time soon.
"At least they arnt shooting each other"
Everyone: Yet.
That's the key word
I said: " for now..."
Kinda wish they would 🤞
3:03. There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution.
Amen my libertarian brother.
Nice cpg grey reference, ironically the quote comes from a video about brexit
True, think of the US Korean War
Wait a sec, Im going to check how accurate that DeValera impression is
EDIT : Yep
Collins did what he had to do, to save Ireland's future, sadly de Valera and his supporters hadn't the foresight to see the bigger picture, as Collins had.
I think De Valera knew, but didn't have the balls to put himself in the line of danger.
Collins was a tout an British agent
@@eireaontaithe5760 i suppose youll say he was a pedo next
ruclips.net/video/-_bPM6ijqlU/видео.html This is a documentary I directed regarding the division created between 2 west Cork brothers which inspired the film "The wind that shakes the barley"
Absolutely agree with you.
We seen in the Rising how devastating fighting the British head on would’ve been
We would’ve been crushed, brutalised and possibly not independent even to this day.
Collins (and underrated Arthur Griffith) didn’t want to sign the treaty, they had no other choice lest we be met with even more civilian casualties
Last time I was this early, the whole island of Ireland was part of the UK
Your only saying that because your a unionist 😂😂😂😂😂
Shea Curry well, I am a supporter of the restoration of the Kalmar Union, under my leadership.
So you could rightly call me a Unionist
@@Espingol whatever you say. Up fianna fáil 💪😆
Up Fianna Fáil
But also Up the Kalmar Union
@@Espingol under your leadership? dreams dreams dreams
I really think that the treaty was the best we could get. I think dev purposely sent Collins to sign it to save his own neck. Collins did the best he can and that's coming from a Derry man.
You're right. From a fellow Derry man.
Thank you Padraig Pearse
Send potentially your biggest rival to do the politically unpopular but unavoidable thing so you can have be the fall guy and rail against it for your own gain.
How did that "partition would only be a temporary measure" promise that Collins made work out? Collins took the easy cowardly option and accepted dominion status, partition and the oath. He never understood partition was done to split Ireland forever.
One of the great what ifs. If Collins hadn't been assassinated, would he have been able to bridge the bitter divisions that stemmed from the Anglo-Irish Treaty? Did de Valerra regret being associated with the murder of the man who broke him out Lincoln Prison just two years before?
Like all Civil Wars, this was a huge tragedy. It's one thing to have rival nations fight against each other in conflict, but to have a nation go to war against itself...
Like many episodes of Irish history, I wasn't aware of it until John hinted about it in his video about the Irish War of Independence. I consider my eyes more open than before and wish there was a way to get more people aware of the past to avoid mistakes being repeated in the future.
My condolences to everyone who is related to people who fought in the Easter Rising, the War of Independence and the Civil War. Like a veteran from Argentina who served in the Falklands War, "I'm completely against all wars, they bring nothing but hatred between people and countries and only benefit the leaders who declare war." Similarly, an Anti-War message read by a Socialist Politician in the US, Eugene Debs during World War 1 said, "(...) they have always taught and trained you to believe it to be your patriotic duty, to go to war and to have yourselves slaughtered at their command. But in all the history of the world, you, the people, have never, had a voice, in declaring war. And strange, as it certainly appears, no war by any nation in any age, has ever been declared by the people."
Absolutely brilliant video Ruddy. I missed your videos. You're the reason I now really like Irish history.
I like the intro with soldiers though out time
Was wondering when you were going to do this! It’s honestly hard to keep track of all the conflicts that took place in Ireland over the 20th century. I assume you are going to do the troubles at some point?
He has
I’m an American because of this time. My grandfather was one of those imprisoned by the Free State waiting to see if he would be executed. When they final let him go, he figured he would split before they changed their minds. Came from Ros Muc. Ended up in Ohio
“Yeah dude, I’m like, one quarter Irish, my grandfather was from county Cork”
Why are burgers so cringe
@Barry Keating hi barry me too, tis great to be irish
kind regards
fellow irishman
"Cringe Burgers" have a might that would put your land to shame. So keep up the envy.
"Take a step or two forward, lads. It'll be easier that way."
What a dude.
Erskine "The Riddle of the Sands" Childers. British Army, Boer War; Royal Air Force, 1914-15. Had a son and namesake who was a President of the RoI; on his (Childers Sr) capture before his execution, told the son, _"Never do or say anything that will cause bitterness."_ (Would that all fathers gave that advice to their sons.)
John D Ruddy “and Winston Churchill...”
Me “helped the Irish”
John D Ruddy “no”
Me *shocked Pikachu face*
he hated the fact that ireland was independent
I mean, what else would you expect of the man who let an entire subcontinent starve to death in the middle of a war?
@@maxmurphy7621 He hated the loss of Empire more than anything.. He thought the Irish & all under Britain were lesser, backwards people who needed the British to civilise.. Hated that the Irish pretty much began the process of breaking up the empire with the Easter Rising.. It inspired more to Rebel.. He was a monster..
@@stiofanofirghil1916 yeah more you learn the more you hate
him
@@maxmurphy7621 Spot on there..
I love the attention to detail in all your videos, but especially this one. At 9:12 you see a revolver with the hammer cocked, meaning its ready to fire, and at 10:26 see a revolver with the hammer forward, since its being fired. Just amazing.
I’m definitely an Irish Republican and I know it’s easy to say Michael Collins was this and that because he was killed and the way things eventually ended up turning out but in terms of practicality, history has shown that his method was correct. Starting a civil war with the enemy that just left 100 miles over the sea was stupidity. For all we know it wouldn’t have taken another 25 years for full Republican independence. I have also seen sources, not sure how true they are that Collins had a plan for how to bring the north in but I don’t know if that’s accurate or not
I love your videos. The tiny little puns that appear throughout are the icing on the cake, like the Monty Python reference to the knights who say "Ní" at 00:43.
This was awesome. Makes me miss my comparative politics class. It compared Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic. Got to learn quite a bit of Irish history.
This video helped me incredibly when I was trying to study Irish modernism. Great explaination and engaging talks. Thank you so much!
Great video, John. Another one that supplements my reading of Tim Pat Coogan. You can't know how much I appreciate it.
Great video. Love this series on Ireland. Very informative not only on the happenings but of the politics and people involved
"We have good logo" love it
They actually seem like a perfectly reasonable party but they desperately need a more exciting design
6:42
Eoin O'Duffy making a conspicuous salute, there... XD
Todd Hughes well spotted ;)
That whole Blueshirt business was a bit interesting wasn't it?
@@matthew1882 It was indeed.
welp they still have a statue of a member of the nazi party in dublin. they venerated the ira and the nazis for years. no one venerates the udf.
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan O'Duffy was a strange fella
Yes finally!
I had this guy as a substitute teachers a few years back it cool to see how far he has come ,
I have been waiting for this episode for so long
That was pretty impressive, I was just thinking that I was getting pretty rusty on my Irish history & popped this download on & thought it was just brilliant. All that information in just over 15 minutes, really well presented & edited & easy on the ear. I thought it was very unbiased as well, of course I suppose that depends on your point view, but I think most people with an open mind would consider this to be unbiased. My family are from a small town in Co Kerry & they were quite badly affected by it all, they certainly didn’t get off unscathed. One of my great aunts was roughed up by the Black & Tans when she was a teenager, having one foot broken by a rifle butt as they searched for weapons & during the civil war my Grandfather was very much pro treaty, but a cousin who was also a friend, they’d grown up together, inseparable, but he was killed fighting for the anti treaty IRA. However I was informed in hushed tones that he was captured by the Free state army alive & well & unhurt, but he & the others captured with him were tied up, pushed together & blown to bits by land mines, basically murdered after surrendering to the regular government backed army. Many of these men now killing each in such a brutal manner had fought side by side not just in the war of independence but in France too in some cases. Such a tragic war & with ruinous long term consequences.
And yet as child growing up in Kerry in the late fifty’s & early sixties I knew not a single thing about it, not a word was spoken, it was never mentioned at school, home or anywhere else. Just silence. Cant wait to watch this chaps other downloads, I hope there as good as this one.
The Irish civil war is probably the saddest chapter in Irish history. These were allies, in common cause, going to all out war with each other over a disagreement in government and timeframe for independence.
Collins fell for the age old British tactic of divide and conquer. That temporary partition he promised still exists as a result. He allowed a weakened position for the republican side by supporting a treaty that split his own people.
I'd like to say that these videos SAVED me from my history exams! I could understand the concepts within a few plays of the video when my teacher really couldn't. Thanks so much!
My great uncle John Francis Mulqueen was a Sgt in the National Army of the Irish Free State. He was a member of the 1st Western Division (Co. Clare) and based in Dublin. Quite proud to say he was on the sensible side that could see when to fight the British and when to negotiate for independance. He moved to Manchester years later. Colins had the right idea; too many Irishmen died fighting against a strategy that would later prove to be sucessful and intrumental in acheiving the Independence that the original IRA had fought for.
AYYYY nice work. Love ya stuff
superb video. Really educational and the drawings add a nice amount of humor to make it that bit more enjoyable!
Great and well put together video 👍
i really enjoy these bite size animations and they are of course historically accurate as narrated by a native irishman :) i may even pick up the book :) good work John - subbed :)
You've nailed Dev's accent!!!
I enjoyed the video and learned a lot!
Thanks for the upload. I didn't even know that there was an Irish civil war until today when I heard it referenced in another youtube video. I then searched for another video to explain what happened and found this. Great overview!
Where u from?
I'd like to see Ireland before the normans. The old gaelic kingdoms and kings there customs, laws, power divisions and of couse there history
Fun fact: im decended from irish rulers
@@erinodonnell3050 Don’t say your american
@@maxmurphy7621 NOOOO im irish
@@erinodonnell3050 do you live in america
@@maxmurphy7621 NOOOO
This was a topic that was never clearly explained in schools, to the point where I said "that makes so much sense!" when you explained why Collins would be assassinated in his home county
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!
This is class! love your illustrations
The more I learn about Éamon de Valera, the more I dislike the chap.
Ross Chippendale Well what do expect he knew the British weren’t going to give them the republic and it wasn’t in their constitution. So he sent in Collins because although Dev and Collins are friends, he saw Collins as a political rival.
@@ethanramos4441 And he knew Collins was being stitched up!
Paul Furey Well it backed fired on Dev because the Dáil voted for the Treaty
He seems like a real jerk. The more I learn about that guy, the more I don't care for him.
He sold the Irish out to the Catholic Church, he was a yank that thought he could control, surprise surprise
Did exactly what had been suggested before we had a civil war over whether we should do this or not and the not camp won but then we peacefully decided to do it any way
I have waited and you delivered
absolutely fascinating, thanks
Can you make a video going into more detail about the blueshirts
Sees Come Out Ye Black and Tans Lyrics
*WE'RE IN THE HOME OF THE ENEMY KATHLEEN!*
My god he's a legend
Wow poor Renua didn't even get a mention :D
Fascinating watch as always and still makes me feel sad of all the lives that were lost :'(
Finally
I been always waiting for this
*_”T H E M S W E R E F I G H T I N ‘ W O R D S “_*
3:50 & 3:51
Yeah the constitutional situation of the British Monarchy in Ireland between 1936 and 1949 is confusing to say the least.....
Abdication crises and political astuteness, fail for the Brits and a win for DeValera.
Excellent video!! Irish history is my favourite and also important too!
Great work! well researched
You should do the Philippine-American War
Emman Mojica Nah he won't make it. He has nothing to do with it.
It was a humble request. Nothing more. It would be cool though.
Emman Mojica Indeed
Imagine having to fight for you independence
This post was made by Australia gang 🇦🇺
ps please send help the fire nation attacked us and everything is BURNING IN HELLFIRE
@PatchesRips sorry what does that liberal hate stuff have to do with a country literally on fire
@PatchesRips I'm more tgan sure that the goverment there is rather conservative.
@@Scammer_Steve because they are the one who reduce the Aussies fire department significantly
Here a lini
independentaustralia.net/article-display/gladys-berejiklian-slashes-fire-service-budgets-while-nsw-burns,13307
Australia was never a part of the UK proper and isn't directly next door to Britain. Makes achieving independence peacefully an easier prospect. Also, imagine having an old woman in your money, Imagine being an Anglo, imagine living upside down etc.
*OOOHH SAY CAN YOU SEE*
This was a very helpful lesson! As an American, I've learned about the 1916 uprising but not the process from there to today. This was very well explained. Thanks!
Very good video. Good channel to learn about Irish history
I wish instead of a civil war, the irregulars went up north and protected the Catholicos who were being ethnically cleansed, rather than fighting the people who at one point they fought with
.
Revolution sometimes isn't worth it. It's better to use the political process. It was better to remain with the British Empire.
Dude thank you so much for making this video. On my European history test, it randomly brought up the Irish, and I remembered this video and brought up the Irish Civil war as my evidence. Have a great day dude!
I remember watching these videos so much, not specifically this one, and I dont regret it one bit.
By God he's back!
It's not often that war breaks out even after a peace treaty
There's something about "thems were fighting words" that I love
always a good day when you upload a new video
I'm First Nations in Canada. I wish my people had this type of strength. We basically live in third world living conditions like a POW camp while our chiefs, councilmen, leaders and anyone who plays the game wines and dines in the city. Sometimes someone gets up and makes the news but they all disappear. Our demise seems inevitable.
I'd love to see a video on the Mexican Revolution or the French Intervention.
This video has been long awaited.
I have been waiting
Here because of the Banshees of Inisherin
14:09 Ireland political parties in nutshell
I gotta say John ya did it again, another brilliant video though we all know you're going to do the 9yrs war someday
That was great man.
“We’re in the home of the enemy Kathleen!”
Come out you black and tans around Westminster what a legend 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i've seen this before what does it mean?
@@sylvio1687 Here ya go: ruclips.net/video/GvvtZIwh4Bs/видео.html
@@scanida5070 what a fucking legend 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me, an American: wait there was an Irish civil war?
yes why there is north of ireland and ireland
Yes, the instigator was an American.
You are litterly Jim pickens, made by Kevin, an irish man
@@outermiddlegamer2591 George De Valero was anything but Irish
@@keelanmcaleer1115 The Irish civil war was fought between the plastic paddies and the Irish in the Free State (South Ireland), nothing at all to do do with Northern Ireland, have you ever read a history book or are you just another one of those plastic paddies?
Love ya vibe mate, didn't know a lot of this
great piece of work
Any group of people that want independence should get you cant just force them (I am a someone living in England)
I disagree b/c if this was the case the number of nations on the planet would be thousands
Free Sealand! Death to the UK!
Mate nobody wants to see the "Socialist Republic of West Yorkshire" on a map.
The thing on the political parties is so accurate. U left out a few tho
I dont know how long I have been waiting for this
Need this for my mocks, very much thancc
My great grandad was one of the men who blew up the whole in the side of the Dundalk prison you can still see the whole there today I see it every day on my way to school
Yea I found it in google street view :D
How'd you get Dev to read his speeches for this video.
Irish Black Magic
Wonderful video and explanations but I would love to have more exactly dates and not just the month.
bloody well done
Sorry.
From England
Thanks for getting us some trucks and other things 🇮🇪🤝🏴
Michael Collins was right, and the Civil War was a pointless loss of life. It's easy to say that in hindsight though. My great grandparents didn't fight in the civil war, but they were Pro-Treaty. Also you forgot to mention how Ireland became a de facto Catholic Theocracy under DeValera.
From the other side you can't blame the anti-treaty IRA for considering themselves betrayed. As far as most of them propably saw it, they fought for the whole Ireland not just a part of it - so that treaty was basically a huge middle finger thowards them
@@tomaszzalewski4541 The partition of Ireland was barely mentioned in the treaty debate.
@@benitolonard4441 That's because the British had made it *their* _fait accompli_ in the Government of Ireland Act 1920.
@@stephenwright8824 Yes. But for some weird reason Collins is blamed by some for the partitioning of Ireland.
that one moment that two 17 minute videos gave me more knowledge than 11 years of school
Thanks I have a history test tmrw needed this
Come out ye black and tans come out and fight me like a MAN!
This is the content |'ve been waiting for.
Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders
FINNALLYYYYY!!!! My great great uncle was part of Collins squad and was captured at the burning of the custom house and was tortured. After the treaty he stayed loyal to Collins and as much as I hate to admit but my great great uncle took part in the ballyseedy massacre and is actually known as "The butcher of ballyseedy".
Great video!
Oh yeahhhh he's back!