Italy's declining population fuels long-term economic uncertainty
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Italy's aging citizens coupled with low birth rates are shrinking the country's population. Experts are now looking to reverse the trend to boost future economic growth, Euronews correspondent Giorgia Orlandi reports.
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All your young people left because you choose propping up boomer benefits over investing in young peoples future and that’s what happens. This same issue is coming for a lot of countries
Thats true here in America too.
The college education is bleak while the elderly gotta have 50k in benefits haha yet the young are left to pay the bill but can berly feed themselves
@@mermaidaughter7 young people are stupid for continuing to participate in that scheme. I tell young people, don't have kids, just live for yourself, no one in government cares about you, they only care about themselves and their comforts and having a golden retirement
That's what you get in a democracy where a larger cohort (boomers) simply outnumbers younger cohorts in pure voting power.
True, pensions and healthcare get all the funding and we tax the workers. We create our own hell.
@@mermaidaughter7🤔How? There so makor social welfare in the US like in Italy or the rest of the EU. Your generation wants to mooch off of the government
"If women are able to work they'll have more children" that makes absolutely no sense 🤔. Women work in Japan, Korea and China and their population is significantly shrinking. Most women in the workplace do not have kids because of their jobs. Working women even make coupling harder because they have significantly higher expectations from their men, ie if a woman is educated and high earning, she's definitely going to demand that her partner is either on her level or higher, thus reducing the amount of suitable partners ( or partners that they consider suitable).
You think that it is bad? No way, sexist racist meh who think that woman should give more birth, no it does not work in that way
Work steals all available time for family and care
Yeah that was a counterintuitive and strange statement. There are definitely other factors that play into an aging population and low fertility rate, I don't really see how less women in the workforce would lead to less children. Germany and Sweden might have better measures to incentivise both working women and making more children, and not have the same problems as Italy or Japan. One thing isn't necessarily the cause of the other.
@@ehmzed I live in Germany, its just as bad. The Birth rate here is 1.53 babies per woman ( 2.1 is replacement rate and anything less is depletion) even with the very generous maternity programs that they have ( like 2 year government funded maternity leave), affordable healthcare, free education, etc. Unfortunately it seems like the less "empowered" women are, the more likely they are to prove their worth in society by doing the 1 thing that only they can do ( child bearing). The truth is that western countries were myopic in their fight for gender "equality". They pushed for women inclusion in the workplace and all but demonised traditional maternal roles. They also shamed masculinity, inadvertently making men less attractive to women. This has turned society on its head because women no longer find pride in motherhood and the ones that do aren't finding men worth starting families with.
@@dekev7503 Women were sold the idea of taking the male gender roles as well as keeping some female gender roles. Doesn't make a very happy person.
Italian here...
Basically another problem is the work prospective in Italy, for 40 hours every week the average salary is 850€, but if you are fresh from university is even worse like 500 or even 400 for a junior software dev.
How can you have a future?.
This is why most of the young people has or wants to leave Italy, inside my group of friends everyone has basically left, including myself.
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Compare Italy/Europe to global countries with different cultures and you'll see It's NOTHING to do with salaries and incomes, and EVERYTHING to do with Marx1sm and subversive culture. But of course, normies and NPCs aren't ready to deal with reality.
I hope your friends don't consider coming to Ireland. Everyone is leaving because of the ridiculous expense to live and rent
That is not the average salary, you are wrong definitely
Roma invicta
Pathetic, old people make up burdening laws and then complain why no one is having kids.
That's about the dumbest comment I've read here
Italy is old. It's a bureaucratic hell that is typical of old levantin system.
Italy failed into sorting or at least reducing the gap between the more productive and dynamic North (especially Milan and Lombardia) and the inefficient, partially still rural and corrupted South administrated by some of the worst politicians on all UE.
Italy has an insane level of taxation that keeps away most of new investors (apart from Milan, only exepction).
Italy spends too little funds in reaserching and education system preferring wasting in unproductive welfare as "reddito di cittadinanza" (sort of universal credit) and unreasonably elitaristic high pensions or for unproductive burocrats of the State.
Italy has still strong and economically invasive mafias in some areas of the country.
Italy has always been birthplace of huge talent and creativity. Aside the Roman Empire, it has been the heart of the Reinassance, the country of the first bank and university, the land of great architects (from Palladio to Renzo Piano), painters, merchants and explorers (Cristopher Columbus, Marco Polo), designers, brands etc. but at the moment Italy doesn't almost have any significant initiative or innovation and most of its iconic companies have been bought by foreign groups or conglomarets.
Honestly I can't see how this very particular country can rise up without a "drammatic" reform of its own structure...
It’s a contradiction the country candle of renaissance and with many successful companies in the world is dying.
Basically: Use the same old strategies that have been proved to not work.
even immigrants italians are leaving italy..low income pay,no housing ,no pensions in the futures..working without permit,no pension contribution..high debt..italy is collapsed in 10 years..so better leave now until you are young..
The rent prices are insanely high specially in big cities that even students can't afford them and protest sleeping in tents inside their universities, also house prices have increased astronomically, it's very hard to get a loan and pay for it for 20+ years when the salaries haven't increased and inflation eats all your purchasing power away, it's a very grim situation right now in the land of pasta, pizza and mafia...
Bring in women from other countries like Persia, Armenia Romania Albania. Young men well have kids with these more traditional women, and you won't even know they're only half italian
The problem is the Italian culture
If you took a clean woman to a corrupt society then she will too become corrupt
Fix the root of the problem first
So you want to reduce women's role in society to a position of servitude?
Don't worry. NGO boats will fill Italy with well qualified 'migrants' to stop Italy's population decline. That's surely the EU's plan.
You think you are smart with your sarcastic comment. But that's the only solution if Italians don't give birth.
Yeah true
@@mrwideputin2038 immigrating to China doesn't mean there's more Chinese people. It just means there's more non Chinese people in China. Same vice versa with Italy
Assuming you even have a choice with the immigration crisis
The only reason why you're allowing immigrants to your country is because you need the labor. You're not reproducing
Women able to work are in a position to have more children? How nonsense. Sure we are all superhuman, having children ,working, looking after school, house all!! What are men exactly for nowdatys since we do all! I am Italian, mum of three expat lived in Ireland, Germany and now Spain..I have more around 10 female cousins and 2 sisters, all childless. It is not work Finance related. It is a choice, out various circumstances ( separation, no partner, waiting too long) but a choice and it is culturally and the way they want to live related. Our society has created weak and superficial men and most people who are so into themselves that have no real willingness to give that up to sacrifice their ego to dedicate themselves entirely to someone else because that is being a mum and a parent. But in our society mums have a bigger burden than ever before because they to do it all literally( at least in the past the man was the financial provider and protector, now these weak men don't even do that). Mums have to do it all and society takes it completely for granted. Mums are literally slaves, often criticized, but raraly given any credit or solidarity. And people wonder why there are fewer children? I don't wonder at all. It is Christal clear. I bet the woman journalist of this news report have no children or decided very late to have one, two max. And she asks question to a men economist/ politician ?! just ask yourself and will get a more accurate picture of this reality
I think you have stated the truth of the problem. Most of the men in Italty cling to old notions of what a women should be, whereas most young Italian women choose not to be like their mums or grandmas .A similiar situation exists in Japan and South Korea, the young women are on a birth strike, and a lot of the young men have no interest in a relationship or being a parent.
And why should men have any interest? We weren't the ones that pushed women off into the workforce. Women decoded to do so themselves.
@@muhammadibrahimalvi7619I mean it's women they never take accountability for their actions, they ruin their lives themselves then they blame it in someone else🙂
@@marclast9564 Uh. I am not sure what you are talking about.
There are other reasons too
Especially the pension system which favors people with no children over parents
0:54 Germany and Sweden are also far below replacement level of 2.1 children per woman....
This is an issue of values, not economics.
I feel sorry for Italy. It has fallen so far since the height of its empire. Almost totally irrelevant soon. It has become like Disney World, a tourist mecca. One huge Pompei, people come to see the bygone days, the past.
Desde que sou um menino de 5 anos ouço falar que na Itália a população envelhece demasiado, e que não há crianças para repor. E isso já se vai vinte e poucos anos. A Itália já acabou?
Caramba, que raciocínio curto. Essa sua manifestação é um exemplo claro de que o Brasil precisa investir muito nas aulas de matemática. Não saber calcular é um prejuízo na vida.
My paternal and maternal great-grandparents were Italian and Portuguese who came to Brazil, I'm white, but neither Italy nor Portugal want me in their country. It's no use, they see us as animals because we were born on another continent, no matter their appearance or cultural similarity... They prefer immigrants from Africa and the Middle East... That's the truth! make it difficult for us to get a visa and make it easier for others. The process to obtain citizenship is expensive and time-consuming. If Italy gave me back the nationality of my great-grandparents I would learn Italian with pleasure, I would live there and have 10 Catholic children, but they prefer to give nationality to people from the Middle East and Africa...
the church should sapport big familys
I hope they won't apply any Gilead laws 🤔
No that's america
This is the curse of the inquisition.
That's the result of the wealth inequality between north and south
Accept more Ukraine citizens or refugees in the work force
We have enough Ukranians in Italy we don't need anymore trust me.
@@gaiag8417 their white people Italy need them
@@amarhadjimurad2363 Umm no we don't. And wtf do you have to mention someone's skin color? It has nothing to do with it.
@@gaiag8417 true
@@gaiag8417 he is more rational then you tho
Each kind to their own
Bad for economics, good for environment.
A shame because Italians are so good looking, but what can we do 😕
Even more now
Job security and high paying salary many young people in Europe don't get merried for that reason specially women
The biggest reasons people don't marry or have children are not economic but cultural
European cultures don't encourage marriage even if you are rich
Once such an influential place, fashion movies music football technology cuisine language.. getting over
I have been waitng since 10 years to see japan ceased to exist.
They said 20 years ago that japan population is shrinking,
and it will disappear completely.
Still tokyo is the most populated city of the world.
Stop this nonsense news
yah well good luck selling those expensive houses, good luck exploiting those low wages workers and good luck with those few working hours like 8h/day 6-7 days a week… you get what you wish for in the end 😂
& Action!! Start walking & talking....
My wife and myself do not have children but work hard enough to realize children are very time consuming.
Fortunately there's no need for you to have children thanks to immigration
It's because of unemployment. If we Italians can find work in Italy we would love to stay in Italy!!!!!! We are forced to immigrate to better countries. And this is RACIST towards Italian people!!! We are here we just want to work!!!! 2:22
People just don’t have as many children as they used to. That’s just the way it goes. Since the advent of industrial farm technology it hasn’t been necessary to have a bus load of children.
they are no longer independent italians they are know rare people inhabited there own country and there will be a chance of there own extinction and that land will grab and colonize freely from other west european countries or middle europeans
South Italy will be sold one day mark my words.
Dont worry italy..african are coming in tons 😂😂😂 through sea
@@ozymandias6954
Nah , They just continue their journey to France and Germany
It called karma. Italy used its power and wealth to oppress the weaker nations now reaps the fruits. This is the case for the rest of Europe and the US.
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It's called Marx1st brainwashing. Congrats NPC
I'm up for these let the collapse of the European nations follow
They stole the wealth and closed the door behind them
@@dolphmilitia no
It's called liberal brainwashing
True marxist countries had high birthrates
Italy will be Africa in 15 years
It’s really simple. Pay us more and we’ll make kids. Why should I work 35+ hours a week and get paid less than €1000 per month. Non fatemi arrabbiare per favore.
There is no need for you to have children
Hundreds of young people arrive at Italy coasts every week
The Italian government and parents didn't spend years and money raising them so they are free cheap labor better than raising kids for years and a lot of money
Existential angst.. look back to WW2 for the reasons
Take more immigrants … you have no choice
And it will no longer be Italy. Multi culturalism is a failed experiment.
@@PistonHonda87 Ok ? So what choices do you have ?
NOPE
@@karim.mmmmmmm start making kids
Our generations have better conditions for childbearing than any others before us
But no let's just waste your life in endless consooming
kudos! to italian men running away from italian woke women and finding their catholic wives in the philippines and become a husband and dads of at least 5 kids. Those fil- italian kids will be back one day.
Bring in refugees!
Sure, here is the information about the Italian invasion of Libya in short:
* Italy invaded Libya in 1911 for economic and strategic reasons.
* The war lasted for two years and resulted in the deaths of about 80,000 to 100,000 Libyans and 5,000 Italians.
* The Italians used brutal methods to suppress the Libyan resistance, including aerial bombardment, concentration camps, and public executions.
* The war left a legacy of bitterness and resentment that continues to this day.
Here are some key points:
* The Italian invasion of Libya was a major turning point in Italian history.
* The war marked the beginning of Italy's colonial rule in Libya, which lasted until 1943.
* The war also left a legacy of bitterness and resentment that continues to this day.
We will take revenge from you Italy one day. Keep It in mind. You treated very dirt way immigrants and some weeks ago more than 700 people were killed in a way of Italy. Your country don't help them
We need more kids in the whole developed world people are way to selfish these days and decide not to have kids I think starting a family gives your life much more meaning and you get much happier I want like 7 kids and think everyone who gets kids should get like 3 or more
"and think everyone who gets kids should get like 3 or more"
That's fantastic. I assume you'll be paying all their expenses, right?
Average Conservative Propaganda.
No propaganda is gonna solve the problem of birth rate crisis.
A lot of people do want to have children. The cost is extremely high tho
The childfree selfishness affects who exactly? The nonexistent child? 😂😂😂
I'm sorry, didn't Italy just turn away a boat filled with several hundred people on it? Aside from a mad scientist's cloning experiment the solution was and is on your doorstep.
They don't want brown immigrants, theyd probably gladly take Ukrainians and Russians though.
Ohh
Who wants to go back to the dark ages and be a woman with babies? If you're modern,trying to get ahead, or just survive, I see those with kids have it significantly harder than the rest.
Imagine thinking people having babies is something bad lol
@@Personaje123if that's the case what about the one commenting parents if they would have thought that she would not be born😂
@S Vijaya or the soldiers of the Revolution you make them what they are
But liberalism poisoned you
Oh and I like how on every video that regards population collapse there is always that one CIA payed bot that comments everywhere he (they) deem necessary just to make counterargument in favour of further depopulation
I don't know have you guys tried going to church 🧐
If it is true that the masses, the populations react as an entity to environmental and social conditions, it seems that advanced Western societies have intimately understood that all this manpower will not be needed in the near future.
And by the law of preservation it unconsciously adapts to the changed economic and social conditions.
Not extinction, the decrease in populations that adapt to new problems, to different economic and production conditions.
The earth cannot support us, there are too many of us, it is a shame that the underdeveloped, Islamic fanatics multiply senselessly.
More jobs for women please.
European govts should warn it's citizens that if they don't have more children then the countries may have to let in emigrsnts. That fear of foreigners could make Europeans have more children. 😂😅
Even more now