Time To Put A Chevy 454 And Ford 460 To The Ultimate Horsepower Test - Horsepower S13, E23
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Which monumental motor will make the most horsepower... the Chevy 454 or the Ford 460? Joe and Mike build one of each in the HorsePower shop. Then, a showdown on the dyno will determine which is the baddest.
Wow...you can clearly see what bias their show always goes to when building engines🙄
yup they build the chevy motor better with better parts and more parts.
would have like to have seen Jon kaase heads on ford
Would love to see a big block Pontiac, Olds, Buick and Mopar builds
Pontiac doesn't have a big block
Mopar man myself
i am guess it's an intermediate block.
I’d like to see the original TNN shows added to this channel. The original episodes of Horsepower with Joe and Chuck were great !
I don't have a dog in this fight but I sure can smell the bias.
I forgot how poorly they actually compared these engines.
Make sure you get that Chevy motor upgraded rotating assembly because she'll come undone with the factory stuff. Now it's even. Factory Ford rotating assembly and aftermarket Chevrolet rotating assembly
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...and still cheaper than Stock Ford. Hmmm?
Ford factory 460 heads definitely leave something to desire...they don't flow as well as factory 454 heads.Thats a big reason why the Chevy made so much more power not to mention the cam was a little bigger 😎
I love the sound of that 454 - like Bob Falfa's Chevy in American Graffiti. Vrooom! Interesting, though, that the Ford's stock crank can handle 700 hp vs only 500 on the 454. Sounds like the Ford is the way to go.
Ford always been the way to go
I love how they are so aggressive when removing parts and installing them. Fkn ripping that shit. Poor cam bearings lol
Not a fair comparison unless you put comparative identical parts. When you put better parts ( even though budget the same) you will get better performance.
All I see is hidden parts for the Chevy, missing pictures for the heads intake ports too. Missing information on the cam, and SUDDENLY getting the results you want. If those are even the real numbers. After reading the comments, you can tell NOBODY is fooled. How to lose customers and views is the reason RIGHT HERE in this video.
You can not have fair comparison unless every part is the same on each engine like having a modified points distributor on ford but a hi output mallory on chevy as the mallory has better spark output and curve also cams have to have same lift, duration and lsa. Piston design also changes performance
I agree!. Should have left chevy bottom end alone, and same heads as close as possible. Same compression and cam. First test was a little better..
Then you'd be building two identical engines and there wouldn't be much point.
Also, at the stock power and rpm level, there won't be much difference between points and hei. What the main difference here is likely heads. Even truck heads on a 454 are probably a little better then truck heads on a 460.
Once they built them up a little they essentially performed the same.
@@177SCmaro I think the point in comparing them was to compare apples to apples. Not factory to performance.
They always do this make they chevy motor better cause they are sponsored by GM.
Solid roller cam for the Chevy, hyd roller for the Ford...bigger heads chosen for the Chevy...why not put a turbo on the Chev, and really win big?
Yeah WHY NOT CHEAT MORE with the Chevy DUH !
Nice video but I dont agree with the cam choice for the Chevy. They should have used Hydraulic on both engines. The torque on the Ford boils down to cubic inches though. Nice engines definitely, but worlds apart based on Camshafts.
24👍's up guys thanks again for taking us all along with you
Yet another invalid comparison....pointless.
The 385 series 460 is an inline valve arrangement. The BBC is a canted valve arrangement, much like a ford cleveland headed engine.
The 460s are canted valves as well
oh maybe i was confused with a different engine that was a stroker 460 of the other engine family oops. thanks for the correction.@@mwyson4095
Love the show bin build motors for long time personally myself I play with big block Fords but I've built many big block mopars many big block Chevys big block Buicks Pontiacs even a few Oldsmobiles and there was nothing comparable from the beginning of these builds to the end of these builds that was the same between these two engines they were completely different from beginning to end find that rather disappointing that they didn't pay closer attention to detail with compression distributor camshaft design Ford had a hydraulic Chevy had a solid roller way way difference there alone plus compression ratios from beginning to end otherwise I wish you guys have a lot of fun next time if you want to compare engines compare engines appropriately thank you
Worked @ Zion N.P. Lodge from '97 'till '99; Transportation Department. Drove 2 3/4 ton Ford vans--- both equipment with a 7.5 Litre/460 CID ENGINE!!!
Give the 460 a good distributor.. first run was apples and oranges
hydraulic roller vs solid roller ?
Good to see it on the road again.
I'm putting a 460 in a '56 Chevy.
SWEET REVENGE!
Torque wins races, Hp sells cars and speed parts from a bias show
Totally agree! Torque gets you where you need to go.
So, essentially if you slap on heads and an intake that flow more air you make more power. WOW.
Real fair comparison
.494 lift on a big block and probably low duration🤨🤨, let that 460 suck some air come on
What years are they comparing.. a late 60's early 70's 460 as example is 400 horse, where as a 80's 460 is like 190 horse! SAME with the 454
Looks like there might be a little bias here
Idk who yall are going to for machining but all the local shops have a 2500 minimum.
Budget build Ford cost $80 more. Performance build the Chevy got a new crankshaft. Seems like the performance Chevy build cost a lot more than the Ford. Prices not listed.
Chevy only did better above 5,500 rpm. The Ford would do better on the street or in a 1/4 mile drag. Chevy wins on the dyno or on a long track.
Both have enough grunt to pull a house down 👍👍
Not fair comparison. Didn’t use same parts for every build. Re do that and I’ll watch
So they swapped pistons. The crank. Gave the Chevy a bigger roller cam & it made a little more horsepower than the stock bottom end. Hyd roller Ford motor.
Seems legit.
Very similar numbers. Chevy a little more power and Ford more torque over much of the rpm range.
Should have given $$$ spent on each build.
Years ago I had a 68 Cady with a all stock 474, I would like to know that it's all stock HP and torch was ? And see a build up from their.
This is cool and all but can you guys upload the Super Dually project. That thing was mean.
Great content, keep it coming
Thats a biased build the chevy cam was bigger than the ford and the chevy pistons had a very small dish ...come on guys build a fair comparison same pistons same cam same heads then lets see the numbers
They spent 2380 on the ford and 2300 on the chevy but dude said the chevy was 200 cheaper than the ford. Lmao
You told the cam lift spec on the Ford, then you told the cam duration spec on the chevy. Chevy probably got way more lift too. How do you say that's a fair dyno war?
He chevy had more cam, pistons rods and a performance ignition. I watche a ford put down 440 hp 650tq at the wheels with a stage 1 turbo
So you build a full motor chevy, heads intake and cam on a ford. Poor chevy barely beat a stock bottom ford
using and chain timing better then gear timing upgrading my 5.7
Almost no difference. Gear driven are just too damn noisy, when you can go with a double roller and see no benefit from one or the other. Base your choice on cost.
@@joshtheking1772 thank you just wondering
@@kenwood9401 you can get quiet gear drives.
68 to 97
Where is 440 build lol
a 426 hemi or 440 would blow the doors off of the 454 and 460. both mopars are 500 hp from the factory.
@@TrumpAmerica-2024 You're wrong about those factory HP numbers.
If I had to choose between Ford and Chevy, I'd choose Toyota.
To be serious I would get the Chevy LS 350. Not going to go high performance, just reliable V8 from America.
351 Windsor, 460 rock solid engines don’t go off what you hear
Chevy only has more HP because they put more into it as always this why i really do not like this show very much.
woow
Careful, your bias is showing.
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Chevy performance all the way big block Chevy 454
You sabotaged the Ford by putting a comp cam in it.
The best part about this video is the butthurt comment section... 🤣
The 460 was and still is a boat anchor. The heads suck, terrible, etc. It was never meant to be a HP engine, only to move 5000 lb cars...
Even with the bias, it didn't do much worse than the BBC.
So much for being a boat anchor.
more gm and ford junk 👎👎
Mopar is trash!!
moron above me
As opposed to..?
Man the bias is they call fair. WHAT A JOKE